Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 489 | Miss Kay Takes A Vacation from Phil & Jase Shares What Boudin is

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

Phil decides to skip the annual family vacation, but Miss Kay is perfectly content and calls this her break from Phil. Jase explains the wonderful world of boudin and why it's so delicious! Phil highlights the problem with using filthy language. And Al points out that the same things you faced on your darkest days are the very things you get away from when you come to Christ. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? When the family structure goes into the vacation stage, I begin to pull back, pull back and say... Why is that? Do you think there's some kind of childhood memory or... No, I'm just knowing when they all get gone, going to the vacation spot, hours away, that there will be peace and tranquility where I am. So depressing. The babies won't be squalling and people out there and they're getting sand and the orifices of their body

and the heat's burning them up and you're running low on keeping your body from being just scorched. Yeah. You know. What about the half-naked women? The half-naked women. It's just this side of hell

that's where what's fixed to take place. And I don't go on the vacations. I just stay away. And old Dan, he cleans the house up, you know, while everybody's gone. So you're actually taking a vacation from the family while we're on vacation. It's highlighted by peace and tranquility and loud laughter and people having fun. I'm fart, but if you do that for a week, you're saying, boy, I'm ready for this vacation to end. It just shows you that within a functional family, you have to overcome a lot of dysfunction in personalities and likes.

It's just the loudness of it all. I like it for a day or two, but this thing drones on for a week. I don't know. I'm like, you know. Well, that's interesting, Dad, because I always wondered, because for a while we, like, felt bad for you. Like, you know, we were leaving you behind. It's like home alone. No, never think.

No, this is, no, it's a good thing. Well, now I know, this is, you're getting your fill time. This is just, this is you being you. What's here? Nobody's there to bother. What that old boy and, in that Western say, the old guy said, old Wyatt Earp said, you know, we're, we're going, where we're leaving? He said, well, bye.

That was my old guy. I'm just sitting in my old chair and they all begin on the final. load it all up. I help them with it. They got two or three people loading the suitcases and all that. And I'm thinking, mine, well,

buy. Oh, look, Phil, you think it's that bad. Look, I got an itinerary of which vehicles are taken at what time. I know. And I said,

that's what I'm saying. Because Missy's like, well, I have to go, we have to do this on the way. So we're taking a different vehicle. You're going by your on this day, it was a different day. And I was looking at all this.

I said, why, you're making this too. Let's just go together. Nope, no, because you have to give Jay and Anna a ride back. I'm going, because she's getting Karina. She's going to say the grandbaby. Well, she's, Karina is graduating college, which is great. And so she's going to the graduation. Oh, I got you.

And so, you know, that's a million miles away. And so once I heard the story involved, but it made a very complex scheduling, whenever you're having to write all this down and then expect me to remember or follow this. And she said, well, that's why I wrote it down for you. So you'd be aware of how the logistics of the vacation is happening. I started out my when they're all were gone. Old Red, the Redneck came down, and he didn't catch any fish on his vacation up there on Darabon Lake. He caught a few, but not many.

I said, look, I got one net out there. I said, it needs to be run. Let's go out there. And I said, I'll give you whatever ops you want, and I'll keep the rest of them. It had five or six, I don't forget, five or six ops, no big ones up to about four or five pounds. and about five or six blue cat. I threw the blues back. I had him running a net.

I had the boat, you know, like I had done many, many years before. I said, boy, I said, Red, I'm glad I'm not doing this for a living. I said, all I want is a fish fry today. So I celebrated by catching me an op, fresh one, cut him up, deboned him, had it all right there. So the crowd was gone. I went in there and meal my catfish, had a little lawn. catfish I had old red there

he said I got these thank you for the cat I gave him about four of them throw the rest in the river I kept one to eat I'll run it again about three or four days so said well bye and then moved on fish fry

feel just been fail there was no one there better a few years ago I had this idea dad because I was like thinking you were missing us and like you're missing out and so I told mom, I was like, now, mom, you know, the only way we could ever get dad to go down with us when we go down to the beach is I could probably find a place for him to speak, you know, because if he's, if you, if you, if you know, get a situation where he creates a gospel, he would go. And so I told her that. I told her, I said, so you want me to see if we can line that up and maybe he just come for a day or two. She said, no, this is my vacation from your daddy. I have to admit, though, I'm letting my mind go down to just go down to a place where I've never ventured before.

But the idea of you walking down a beach is a scary thought. That might scare beachgoers and vacationers. Yeah. And I don't want to go through that. Yeah. That would be scary looking. Could you imagine dad in a pair of swimming trunks, Jay's? No.

By the daddy shirt. there's no amount of money that I wouldn't pay to see it. I'm just not into it. Yeah, I got it. We've dealt with it and moved on. I could do some fishing or something. Jay is about halfway like that. No, no, we're fishing.

Yeah, we're fishing. Even Jesus being God and flesh, quite often, he would gather up his little crew, and they would move back up in the brush, whatever, quiet place. Yeah, but the sea of Galilee, look, it's, I mean, he hung out around the beaches of the sea of Calais. I mean, I don't know if you could call it a beach, but it had beach tendencies, and I can, I can envision that. Well, I'm excited about, so we'll be doing, Jason, when you get down, next week when we record our podcast,

you'll be me and you and Zach all here, because Zach's coming down there. separate from us, but they're having a... So we're doing the... Yeah, we're doing it from there. Okay. Well, we did that one year. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we did it from the... Except this year. And so, Dad, you'll be there in our studio, riding solo, and we'll be zooming into you. But we had a guy that, Dad, you did his podcast recently. His name is Andy Andrews. And for the listeners out there, if you've never read any of this guy's stuff or heard of him,

you need to check him out. really good. He's a great writer. And Lisa and I had read his stuff years ago. And then we met him at a couple of events down here. And, Dad, you met him as well. He was on our podcast. No, you were on his podcast.

It was real memorable for you. Was it? Well, the fact that you don't remember, I was making a joke. Well, I did about. Yeah, Dad. It was very memorable. You loved it. When my last book came out, I did about 35 maybe.

of interviews. And, you know, a lot of times you're giving interviews and the thesis you're presenting over and over and over is there is an evil one, but I stress the other side, loving God and loving each other, that was basically the foundation of everything I said. When someone, if it was a telephone call type deal where there's no camera on you,

I got my Bible pulled right up in front of me, and I'm talking to them on the phone like this, and I'm looking down. I made it a policy, all 35 interviews. I answered any question that they came up with, any question that it's uncanceled is the name of the book. I would answer every question with a Bible verse. they would ask a question and I'd be quick enough and I'd get it and I'd look down a little bit and I would read the verse

and then they would say I never thought about that. I would just give in Bible verses one after the other. By the way I got quite a substantial mail I was just looking some of them most of it goes to North Carolina with Gordon and them

but I just noticed many of them said you know I really I really thank you for giving every answer with a Bible verse because I didn't want them saying, well, some old guys, I just give them a Bible verse. It's a good philosophy. And let them argue with the Almighty.

I just Bible verse. In your defense, look, we do hundreds of interviews. And back during the coronavirus, I did at least a hundred kind of Q&A group sessions, mainly with young people. So I wasn't making fun. of you. It's hard for people to get their head around when they say,

you remember that time you came down here and spoke or, you know, you, no. It's just after a while, you've done so many, you forget the times, places, dates, and nature. Well, what struck me about, so we're going to use Andy. I talked to him yesterday, and we're going to, he's going to let us use the studio, podcast studio while we're down there, which was very nice because it's hard. like if I'm here in front of the computer like today it's pretty easy for one person Does he live on the beach too?

Yeah, yeah, he has a place down here. Yeah. But the name of his podcast is what struck me, dad. It's a cool name. It's called the professional noticer. That's the name of his podcast. The professional notisher. What does he notice?

The professional notice. He notices everything. That's why he's like when he writes his books are just very well thought out. He's a great guy. So I'm kind of pumped about. not only us doing the podcast there, but getting to know him a little bit better. So I'm sure we may be on his podcast too. That's funny.

Yeah, but it was good. So yeah, we got that to look forward to, which will be great. So we'll be coming from the beach doing our podcast. So we'll look forward to that next week. I'll give you a fishing report because we're planning on fishing because the wind's not going to be terrible. I don't know the seaweed situation. Is there seaweed washing up on the bank? No, I hadn't seen it.

Okay, good. Are you fishing the cert? You're fishing off the beach? Yeah, we will. We'll fish off the beach and we'll go out probably one or two days. So I've learned a little bit about it, Jay. So the pompano is the best eating fish, and you and Jay caught some of those. Oh, we did, but I think we're at the tail end of that.

But we're going to try them. It is in May, yeah. We're going to try the pompano and we'll try the red fish. I think Jay's going on a red snapper day. I get too far from the back. bank, I get that motion sickness away. It's not worth it. I'd rather stay where I can see the bank and catch big reds or the pompano.

Yeah, Stone brought speckled trout that they caught. They got on the shrimp boat. I was in on that. I was going to share that one day. The guy had fresh shrimp, I mean, right off the boat and a big ice hiss full of, I mean, they were fine shrimp. Oh, they were. I ate them at least. And oysters.

He had oysters. shrimp. I got the horses. I passed on the speckled trout. I went oysters and shrimp, and I ate probably six meals over that. Yep. It was really good. What about, do you bring any of that fantastic Boudan back? No Boudan. I mean, it was a seafood.

Yeah. There's a guy down there that makes the best, he's from Venice, and he makes the best Boudan I've ever had. That's something that came out of Lake Charles. Well, the next time you get that, Al, I'm in. Well, the guys I baptized sent brought gifts and he brought boudan and a substantial amount, by the way. But boy, that was some fine boudan. So for our listeners to find boudan.

Yeah, so boudan is like it's typically rice and meat sausage that they make down south. The reason this one from Venice is unique is it has just a little bit of rice. It's way more meat than rice. Because sometimes that, you know, I don't like it much rice. I'd rather have it a little more meaty. But it's, they smoke it. And it just has the most wonderful flavor. I mean, this is really, really good.

And this guy from Venice that were Jay brought that back from before, he's, he, he enters contest all across South Louisiana. Because, you know, the Cajuns are serious about the Boudan making. And, uh, and he typically wins every time he gets in one of those contests. They make the best, the best. South Louisiana. Now, see, if you read, I Google this. Hang on, Jase.

Let's take a break. If you read the definition, it says a French type of blood sausage. Yeah, I'd heard that before. Well, I think that is part of it, but I stay away from that. But if you go on down to an alternate, it is traditionally a blend of cooked pork, rice, onions, peppers, and seasoning stuff. stuffed into a sausage casing. That's what we're excited about. Although,

budan makers today sometimes get creative with unusual fillings like seafood. Yes, please. Man, they're making me hungry now. I love that boo-da. And they got the little store down the road, Jay's, makes those boudan balls. Do you ever eat those for me? Yeah, awesome. Oh, they're tasty.

So we're looking forward to it. See, in the meantime, I think this chapter three is the first four verses is a little difficult, especially for someone new to the face to get their head around. But when you realize what the first two chapters he's gone through about putting the focus on Jesus because of his supremacy, and then our participation via surrender in that, And, you know, they had these people coming in with these deceptive philosophies based on human traditions and basic principles of the world rather on Christ. That's in two eight. And he reaffirms about what we have in Jesus and our participation, the freedom that comes with that.

We're freedom from the rules and regulations. Kind of the opposite of what a lot of religions teach. So you got to remember that. Just because a church teaches something doesn't necessarily make it true, if they're not focused on Jesus. It would be very, very hard to do to grasp what happens at baptism, which we covered in some podcast. We did two podcasts.

Because here he begins, you've been raised with Christ. You're like, do what? I was going to make that same point. And then you died. You say, say what? And your life is now hidden with Christ in God. So if you hadn't read the previous verse and, 21, and 12 about your sinful nature of being cut away in baptism.

You would never understand what he's talking about. Yeah, exactly. I was going to read that. You know, when he said in Christ all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form, and you got to remember that's in 2.9, but he had also said in 127 that the mystery of godliness is that Christ is in you, the hope of glory. Yep. So he gets to 211, and he says, in him, you had your,

sinful nature circumcise, not with the, he wasn't referring to the physical nature of circumcision that happens to a male, but with the circumcision done by Christ, verse 12, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith and the power of God. Yep. He raised him from the dead. He also says in 13, the second part, God made you alive with Christ. So when he gets to chapter 3, verse 1, there's no doubt. my mind, he's referring to that occurrence when he says, since then, you have been raised with

Christ. No doubt about it. No doubt. I'm saying that only because when you go read the majority of commentaries, they're not, they don't believe that. So, look, everybody's entitled to their opinion. I could be wrong. But it seems like that fits in what he's saying since you've been raised with Christ.

Now what? There's no different than the last podcast. I shared the guy that you baptized this past Sunday from there because he was asking me questions. You know, because here's what happens in real life. This old boy, you know, he told me a story. He's had a rough life, made a lot of bad decisions. He's always had a belief in God, but, you know, he just, he hadn't surrendered. He hadn't pursued Jesus in a meaningful way based on God.

God's pursuit of him, I guess. And so he does. But, you know, he said, you go back home, you're still married, you still have the conflicts. You know, he's got three potential teenagers coming up here. And he's just like, man, you basically paraphrasing what he said, you think this is going to take away all your problems. And you go right back. It does. Well, it does.

But then you go right back to your real life. in the same set of circumstances that you were struggling with, they're still there. They didn't go anywhere. So we had a lot of conversations about that. But I think that's a good way to lead into this because he's going to get to these two things about getting rid of something. Because you just got rid of your old self. But this is going to be a continual occurrence in your Christian life. you're constantly going to be trying to put to death something,

and then you're going to try to emulate something. It's a lifestyle change. Which is why I portrayed that in one of the podcasts a couple weeks ago, that Jesus, he calls you from something and to something. The best defense is a good offense because it always coincides in Jesus. The more you're out there trying to be like Christ in the world, and being aggressive in your faith and doing acts of mercy and ministry. Well, the less cutting up you're doing because you're preoccupied with the holiness of God.

We're the called out. Members of the church are we're called to do something. We're set apart for a specific task. While you're there, one of the things that's mentioned in your rehabilitation from the old ways to the new one, rage, malice, slander, get rid of all these things. and filthy language from your lips. Somebody showed me a little clip of some guy who's got a podcast, but when he started adding the F word in his conversation on air with a mic,

the F word kept coming up out of his lips, and he was, in my mind, was destroying the very thing he was trying to get across. I mean, he's grown man, 50, 60, or 50, probably 60 year old. And he's throwing the F word. He heard of know better. Well, I'm just listening to him and I thought, you know,

whoever handed it to him said, this guy is real one sharp dude. But after listening to him, if it had not been for the interjection of the F word, I said, what good would that do your little thesis and what you're talking about?

Why would you mix that in there? So it was just a turnoff. It's it's it's it's not spiritually healthy to throw word filthy language from your lips. So and and those are the elementary things that when you're taking a stand and you're beginning your walk with the Lord Jesus you say I mean what you what comes out of your mouth they don't realize it's coming from out of their mind their heart their head. They put all that in there and this is the crossover. It takes time, like Jay said, and it's a, it's a, you're entering a new way of operating

on your behavior, how you walk, and what you say. And leave the filthy language out. And that's why Jesus referred, remember, he said, pick up your cross daily. With the kind of the idea is that even though you, you put the old man to death, and that's a, that's a life. change, but then really you have to live sort of that daily thing every day, which is the whole point of this text. I mean, he says, remember, set your mind on things above, set your heart, you know, above. Everything is like you have to start thinking and doing and participating in heavenly type

activities as opposed to just the stuff here on earth. And the difference is from your start after your spiritual death and your spiritual resurgence, a rexin in the eyes of God. And in this particular case at baptism, you begin this walk and it's going to take time and you're thankful that Jesus

is there to remove your sins as you beginning your walk. He's there to not count those against you. It's all in the heart. So the change begins to occur and you look up in a decade and you say, man, I used to have a lot of filthy language

coming out of my lips, but I don't do that anymore. Yeah, and a lot of times people... I got used to not interjecting, you know, funky words. Yeah. Well, I mean, he listed... Well, Jay's made a good point, too, because you think about it, whatever your biggest struggle was coming into Christ is probably going to be a

lifelong struggle, probably. That's correct. For a lot of people, you know, it'll kind of rare up at some point when you're in a weak moment. That's how the evil one will try to get you. back. We were talking before we came on air about a dear friend of ours who had gotten in trouble when he was a young man and went to prison for drugs and selling drugs. And then he came out of that. He got married, a family and was doing great. And then the Eve one worked his way back

into his life and now he's done it again. And he's probably going to spend the rest of his life in prison. And we're all heart sick about it. But I just thought about this idea that usually whatever it is that was your lifestyle coming in, it's probably going to be what you have to face again in your darkest and hardest moments. And you've got to be ready for that. Yeah, that's why when I told you, you give answers from the Bible

because right before the last part of chapter 2, since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why as though you still belong to it, do you submit to its rules, man-made rule? Don't handle, don't taste, don't tell, They're all destined to pairs with use because they're based on human commands and teachings. They do have an appearance of wisdom, self-imposed worship, false humility, harsh treatment of the body,

but they lack no value in restraining sensual indulgence. I mean, that's a good thing to remember. These worldly things, you say not. Well, I think people under... Hang on, Jay's. Let's take a break. I think people under the illusion that you can just coast. as a follower of Jesus, there's no coasting.

If you're not putting on the new self, the old self quickly emerges. Resurrects, that's right. You can't. There's just no, there's no fence. God has removed it through your faith in Jesus, but that's all you've known, up to 28 years. I'll have or oh, you are, but you say you build a track record. Well, all of a sudden to interject Jesus in the middle of your track record, you know. I remember having a...

You walk to a different drumbeat is what he's saying. I was trying to encourage a brother one time. I remember we were having a conversation, just one-on-one. And, you know, you're trying to figure out what the problem is here. And he's like, well, I've just been riding the fence for the last few years. And I said, well, there's no fence in the church. He was in his mind. He said, do what?

I said, you're in the wrong pasture. there is no fence you're either on or off now you can in your mind justify you know showing up well i just showing up that anybody can show up you can go grab some out of the street and put them in there that that means absolutely nothing but because he starts off talking about your heart and in your mind i was like that's rationalization idolatry but there's no fence you you're either in jesus and you're putting on the new self because if you don't if you just try to coast the old self that's why he says in that verse 10 you have put on the new self which is being renewed it's continually being renewed what if it's not being renewable it's getting old back to the old self i mean

this is a this is a moving a thing that's moving on that's why it gives you two huge list and they team they tend to go together when you're the old self is going on it becomes contagious you know if you're being immoral and and you're breaking down the family structure or you know you betray your wife and what happened well then you're angry and you know it's snowball everything snowballs then you're like what do i do well i'll go get drunk so i don't have to deal with all the issues i got well then you get drunk and then you're mad then a fight breaks out but now the police show up. Well, now we're in jail. And you're like, well, I just don't know what happened. You know, I was riding the fence one day. No, we went down the wrong path, wound up in a wrong

pasture, and the old self has, you know, come out. I mean, it's not, a lot of people have trouble talking about this because they, you get into this issue of once saved, always saved them. But that's God's perspective. And we don't, we, we can't see that. I mean, I got a clear passage in verse five. I mean, we're going to talk about one through four in more detail, but verse five, it says put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature. Well, that's going to be an active thing. You've already been raised with Christ.

Why is he saying put to death? You're like, well, I just did. But it's a daily thing. And then put on the new self, verse 10. Verse seven, you used to walk in these ways in the life you once lived, but now you must rid yourselves and the list goes on. Well, let's get into the one through four, because I think it is hard to wrap your head around. I have a parallel text that I think goes with that, which I know we're going to study Hebrews next. I've got one too.

But I wanted to read, so you have Hebrews 3-1, who does the same similar thing. is what Colossians does in that it gives you a picture of the supremacy of Christ. For instance, chapter 1 it says, he's now spoken in verse 2, he's now spoken to us by his son whom he appointed heir of all things and through him, through whom he made the universe. Well, he addresses the same thing in Colossians 1 15 and following and John 1. The sun is the radiance of God's glory and the exact rome. representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful

word. Same image you get from Colossus 1. After he provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty in heaven and he became as much superior to the angels. And you remember in the church at

Colossi here, there was some of them worshiping angels. You know, they had the wrong order of things. But in chapter 3, he makes really the same admonition as you see in Colossians 3, because he says, therefore, holy brothers who share in the heavenly calling fix your thoughts on Jesus. And I've always thought that in Hebrews 3, I thought, you know, if there is a God, which we believe there is, you

would need a way to God and you would need a word from God. You would need to know, how do I get there and what do you want me to do? And he kind of sums that up in that admonition to fix your thoughts on Jesus when he says we have a heavenly calling. I mean, he's calling us heavenly and he has a purpose for us here. So the question becomes, well, how do I fix my thoughts on Jesus? How do I set my mind on things above when I've never been above? I've never seen Jesus, nor have I been above. I've never seen heaven. How do I do that?

I think that's the question that we need to discuss. Yeah. And he also says that again later in Hebrews 12, when he said, fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of your faith, which again, you think about that. How can you, you can't see him? He also says in Hebrews 13, put your feet where Jesus, his feet was when he says, let us go to him outside the gate. That's in Hebrews 13.

He's like, you go where Jesus went. You're like, well, how do I go where Jesus went? Does he want me to take a trip to Israel? Which I did. But I don't think that's exactly what he was saying. He was more saying, in the world, you be Jesus because Christ is in you. That's right. Yeah.

Exactly. Because we are his body. Let's take a break. Because in a lot of passages, Paul says that we are his body. on earth and and he's our head in heaven and and yet we're all interconnected and we're in him it's like that verse jesus in verse two uh that you mentioned oh no it's verse three of three coloshans for you died and your life is now hidden with christ in god now that's an interesting statement yeah how are how is your life hidden in with christ in god my take on that always has been

You can imagine Jesus now is glorified flesh. You know, when he raised here, he went back bodily. And so, you know, every time Jesus is looked upon, he is our representative in heaven. So when any, whether it's the evil one, the father, whoever, when you see Jesus, he sees us if we're in him. So we're hidden in that in that. So what I mean?

I mean, we're still living our life down here. We're still setting our minds on things above. We're still struggling. We're still trying to do the right thing. But from God's perspective, if we're in Christ, he's like, he's got you covered. You know? See, I've always thought. Yeah, I agree with that.

But I've always thought a little more practically just in my own personal life. I just thought if people looked at me, they're not putting two and two together, like, especially people in the world who doesn't acknowledge Christ, they just see some guy, bills, duck calls, hangs out and outdoors, you know, likes to have a good time, loves LSU baseball, whatever they come up with that I do. But they don't realize, because my life is hidden in Christ. They're not, if you don't acknowledge that he's real,

then you're not acknowledging that the reason people are the way they are, are is because of Christ. Because the number one reason on why I am who I am is because of Jesus. Yep. And it's also a protection angle because you can't get at me and destroy me, even if you kill me. Because I'm hidden in Christ. So I've always viewed that. It's hard to explain because they're like, well, yeah, I can kill you.

No, you can't. You think you will, but they thought they killed Jesus too. What did they miss? They missed that he was, what was hidden to them is that he was the creator of the universe, of which you can't kill. It's impossible for him to die. Now, even if you read that, it's still hard to get your head wrapped around it, which is why I believe we're the most powerful people on the planet, spirit-filled people,

and were indestructible, because we're actually hiding in church buildings. and in communities and in houses. Because how would you know, if you were going to destroy all Christians, how would you know where they were? How do you really know? Because it's done through faith. They'll think, well, I'll just pull up into church building. Well, that don't mean much.

You know, half of them might be spiritual. Where do you go when you don't have church buildings are outlawed by the government, China, for example? We're hidden. We're, we're, we're, we're, you, you, you, you. can't find us and yet we're being aggressive or being out there. That's the reason they can't get rid of it. Exactly. You can pass as a government, you can pass all the laws you want on trying to outlaw faith,

but you can't stamp that out. Can't stamp it out. It's actually so brilliant that if you are the creative of the universe and you are going to come up with some group, but protect them, this would be the way to do it through faith because you could never actually hem them up in one place or know for certainty which ones were legit. Plus, there's something so simple that you'll know when you're looking for them and can't find them if you want to destroy them.

And you say, well, where do you look? You look to find the ones who love one another. And they're like, wait a minute here. Wait a minute. But they don't do that, Phil. Even the sariest lowdown killers they are in government rigged up communism, Satanism, all of that. You say, find the ones who love one another. That's him.

That's weird. I was going to say the same thing. It's like you don't go to church bill and you go to love gatherings because that's what you said. That's how people will know you. And if you don't have someone or one or two or. or as a group who do not follow the Lord Jesus faithfully in today's culture, no matter what country you're in, when you search for those individuals, you say,

I hate to say this, but they say seven, eight billion of us. Well, out of that many, Jays, it's hard to spot as you go through and you meet with them. The only way you can find out about them is bump into them and they hear the message on why this is why I operate like I operate. But it'd be hard to hem them all up. Can't find them. I like it.

Now that's an interesting thought, though. I just hadn't really thought about it from that perspective. But when you were talking about that, I was thinking about, I remember when dad talks about, and I have a similar, dad and I were both, you know, prodigals at one point in our life, where you left the godly. and you ran with, as dad would put it, or you were surrounded yourself by ungodly people, and you were a part of them.

I mean, you weren't any better than they were. But when you came out that, and same with me, I hid out for a pretty good period of time. I did this time. While I was new, you know, while I was trying to learn what I needed to be, who I needed to be. So I made myself scarce.

Nobody could find me. I mean, I was hiding out down the river, but you were the same way, Dad. Oh, yeah. Then after you gained strength, you had the opportunity to go back and lead some of those people. But in the early going, we were hidden. I would be telling people about the change of my life. I never thought I would have the opportunity to tell people that.

Once I found that out, I said, I began to put that into practice. And you look up one day and you see thousands that have responded. did you say, this thing is as real as it gets? Life changes is a real reality when people go from wickedness to loving God and loving their neighbor. It's a gigantic thing. It's hard to wrap your head around it. It is. Let's take our last break.

Dad, do you remember that the first time one of them found you? I think it had been a few months. And they asked where you'd been. and you said that old guy's he's he the one you're looking for is gone he's dead and they were looking at you like are you drunk i was telling them what this text was saying you're you think you found me but i got news for you the one you're looking for is not this one this one he died you know i told him at i said he died the one you're looking for they looked at each other kind of crazy and they're like do what i said the one you're looking for is

has died. I said, this is the new one. And they looked around. I will say that they got out of there pretty quick. They left. They came after me. But I noticed they hit the road pretty quick.

It reminds me of a story. I baptized the guy in the Mississippi River one time. And he had left his phone in his pocket. And so when he came out, and he was like, gosh, you're even if I left my, I had my phone in the pocket. And he said, but you know what?

he said, I need to go ahead and put this to death. I mean, so he just hummed it out in the river. And I thought, no, that's what I'm talking about. And I said, well, what about all your contacts? He said, no, that's why I threw it out there. Yeah. I don't want them calling me. Well, I got news for you.

I didn't even have one to throw away. I would just sit there, but I never purchased one. But in his mind, I think he was going to get a new phone, but he just thought, I'm going to have to start over with. without them in the short term and get lined out. I mean, I could see his mind working, and I brought up this Colossians 3, actually, because it's like, it's not good enough just to baptize your phone, so that probably just, I don't know.

I'm not sure it would work after, but some of them are waterproof. But then he realized. I think he might put it to death. I baptized it, but now, you know what, I might have to go ahead and put it to death, and I'll start over with a new phone, you know, I think that's a it's a good thought for us to have about how that transition works. I mean, you're saved. God saved you.

But there's a daily walk that's going to happen. And you're called to be holy and set apart and be out loud and on purpose, you know, for Jesus. But you're also meantime, there's some things that's got to change here in the way I operate. And there's no easy way really to do it. it's bumpy, it's messy in that transition. But when he says that set your mind on things above, or fix your eyes on Jesus, the Hebrews 12 or Hebrews 3-1, I mean, the first thing I think,

the most simplistic thing I tell people, is even though we do this through faith, which is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see. So we're certain that Jesus is real, even though we don't see him. If you put your mind on him and you fix your eyes on Jesus, You have the red letters in those four Gospels, and some in Revelation and Acts, too, by the way.

But you can put your eyes on that, which gives you a visual image of Jesus on how he operated from a spiritual view. I think that's the easiest answer, and I recommended that to our new brother yesterday, I said, you need to read the book of John. And he said, well, how often should I do it? I said, every day in the short term, I was like, you're not going to get it. Because he was thinking when I read it, I got it. No, you're never going to get it because it's giving you an image of Jesus. Well, you're going to learn something from his image, who is the invisible God in a human form. You're going to get something for the rest of your life.

And then at some point, you're going to start noticing the image you're getting from Jesus is going to be living out in your life, in your day. In your daily walk, it's going to connect. And you're like, oh, this is what Jesus is doing in this situation. What do you think about that, Al? No, I think you're right on target. And your story made me think of a, I got invited to come out to camp one time. And I'm like, Jay's and I both get so many opportunities to speak to young people.

And I usually tell, you know, my story of how Jesus rescued me, you know, in my youth. and how much of it I squandered. So, you know, I shared with him. And after it was over, this kid comes up to me. And he said, can I talk to you for a minute about what you talked about? I said, sure. So we sat down under a tree out there at Campioka, an 18-year-old kid. And he tells me his story.

And it was a lot like mine. And he was like, you know, I've been here now. I think the camp had been going on for four days. He said, I was so embittered about being here. But he said, when you were telling me, you were telling me, about what God had done in you, I realize I want that. I want to change. And so I said, but you decided to come here.

He said, no. He said, we came down to bring my sister to camp and we get here. They're from Kansas. We get here and everybody, we go, we take her stuff in and all that. When we go back to get in the car, I'm getting ready to leave. They've packed me a bag and gave it to him and said, you're staying too. And so his parents were just, like, you know what, we can't do anything with you, but you're going to spend a week down here

in these woods. And they were fans of the show, and Jay Cole and them, that's back when they were campers. And I said, so you were brought here not of your own accord. He said, I was not happy. He said, the first thing they did, he said, they took my phone, you know, so I couldn't call my girlfriend. I couldn't call my friends because you turn your phone in when you go to camp. He said, I was mad. I was like, what has happened? He said, but then the more I started listening, I started realizing all that was there. And the reason I tell the story, Jason, because we wound up baptizing him at the end of the week,

and he went back to Kansas, the changed man. And so he goes out in his backyard, he likes to hunt. He took his shotgun. He threw the cell phone up in the air and shot it with his shotgun. And that was his way. That was his way. I did say this for it in our last couple of minutes, though. But in verse 8, when he said, you must rid yourself.

of all such things, and he goes through this anger, rage, malice, slander, filthy language, you know, lying to each other and, you know, put it on the new cell. When you think of the phrase, get rid of something, it made me think of, because I, you know, I ate shrimp six times last week, and I went through the same process. Because old and new represent, the new self represents the good stuff, and the old is the bad stuff. Well, you know, shrimp is one of my favorite thing to eat on the planet. And what do you do?

you take the good stuff, which is the meat in the middle, and I'll devane them because that vein's bad. And I put that with the shells on one plate. The meat goes into a pot, and I cook them various ways, and we eat them and enjoy them. But y'all know where I'm going with this. You must get rid of that old stuff. Now, I don't mean, you're like, well, I'll just leave it right in the middle of the,

where I peeled them for a couple days. No, you better get rid of it. Yeah. And look, not only get rid of it, bury it. Yeah. You don't go throw it out in your yard because in here comes the flies. Then the dogs go out and roll around. They bring it back.

We're still dealing with the dog. My advice, when they get the refuse that has been called, I said, take that, Dan, and throw that, but make sure you throw it in the water. The fisher feed on it. And I said, but don't throw it on the bank. Throw it in the water. Don't throw the plastic bag out there with it. I said, dump it, bring the plastic bag back, put it in the garbage. But get the hulls and the de-veined into the veins that come out of shrimp, get them out in the water.

Well, I didn't mean to start a debate on how we get it. What I've said is if there's something in between you and God and has affected all your relationships and has just sent your life down a downward spiral, and Jesus, his calling you makes you aware of that. it's one thing to set it aside. It's another thing to get rid of it. I mean, get rid of it is a strong phrase. That's why you say, well, you won't even know it's there if you got rid of it. You will if you threw it on the dirt because there's a smell that comes off of it for good reason.

So you get rid of all the smelly stuff. That's why I don't mind a guy shooting a $1,000 phone because I'm thinking in his mind there's no amount of money. There's nothing you were doing. And if you feel that strongly about that without somebody telling you to do it, he's just been doing a lot of mischief. It's caused so many problems that he's got to take a break. And like you say, it's not the phone. I mean, and one day he may revisit and do good things on it. No, but you're right.

And he linked that. He linked his life where it was in that moment. That was his full surrender. It's like, we're killing that old self. We're getting rid of it. That's what, yeah. I hear more and more, even from the news media, I hear more and more people who have at least curtailed the number of hours

that they're on the little cell phone, at least to have a retake and say, you know what, for the next six hour, the next two days, I'm going to be cell phone free for a while, just not hear any of that. Well, I just went extraordinary way. They just cut a whole thing. But let's continue this in the after-hour session.

Yeah, because I've got the rest of the story on my young man. So I'll tell it to you. All right. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click that little bell to get notified about new episodes. And for even more content that you won't get anywhere else,

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