Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 49 | Jase's Dog BIG'N Is Off the Chain, How to Share Jesus, and John the Baptist 3

Episode Date: January 29, 2020

Jase teaches a leadership lesson with duck bands, Phil is starting to come around to BIG'N, the guys answer your questions about how to share Jesus, and they just can’t stop talking about John the B...aptist.   See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am Unashamed What about you? So I see all the activity out here That must have been your hunting guest from this morning They're all heading to Texas Who are they?
Starting point is 00:00:21 What they do? He actually, we hunted with them in South Texas But he just came by to visit He didn't go hunting there. Oh, okay He was a really interesting visit because Ed Marshall, his cousin, is my age, and he heads up Kingdom Dog Ministries.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I've seen a video of this. It's really interesting. He takes his dogs. Did he show you all the stuff with the dog? All the spiritual principles involved with dog training is apropos, as they say, for human beings. In other words, you discipline them because you love them, You train them because they get in the, you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I mean, look, this morning. Discipline train, love. It all comes out with him training his dog. The dog is just amazed. So he applies the biblical principles of what he does in dog train him. So that means I need to repent. They fit like a glove, but, but, uh, I mean, Jason is still dealing with the devil in his dog.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Well, look, here's what's what's happening. What about just a good old-fashioned exorcism? That's what you need. the ironic part of what's happened. I got a dog. I was on a search for a dog because Phil's dog has some screws loose upstairs and he gets so excited that he wants to participate in calling. You know, we're, we're, we, right, right, right. Well, then the dog starts going, well, you know, I'm looking around thinking, these ducks, they're like, oh, those, there's ducks. And there's a howling dog.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So in the last six years, seven years since we've had Blue, Jase has been saying he scares ducks. At the same time, we've killed thousands. We have. Blue has retrieved thousands.
Starting point is 00:02:19 This is the argument. And a lot of them, we would have never gotten, Blue got them. So I'm like, I can take a little. What did the, what did the, it is nerve wracking and I don't like it. Let me.
Starting point is 00:02:32 interject something here because what happened is the older feel has gotten no offense the hearing is not what it once was and so to feel it's a whimper he's like my dog's whimpering a little bit but since he can't hear as well it sounds like a whimper but to everyone else it's a how it's yelping so i get a dog i get a dog and my dog the first couple of hunts he has the fire he's a great retriever well he starts to wimper but as the season is gone on he's got more and more excited and now i basically phil calls him blondie his name is biggin i just have a blonde version of the same of the same dog he's an awesome retriever he does well he's a little better than fills but today he was off the chain he started a yelp a couple times he jumped when the first ducks came in i'm trying to do
Starting point is 00:03:30 constructive discipline. I'm trying to be patient. But it's just frustrating when it was a tough day to duck hunting because it was still. But the dog, but the dog has not, but he will, but he has not quite learned yet, the trust factor. Once he trusts Jace implicitly, once he can really trust him, the owner, the one that, the one is disciplining him and training him because he loves him and he appreciates the work he's doing, go and get the duck. Once they build a bond there, he'll a lot better. He's not, I've, I've been, when Jason's working with his dog, he's scaring very few ducks. He scares a few, but not, but not a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:04:11 But it's just hard. I mean, I really appreciate Phil saying that because in my mind, you don't want to be the guy with, because we've been over there on the end for the last six years saying, I wish Phil would shut that dog up. But you can't shut the dog up. Now, Jayce has a dog and people are saying the same thing about his dog. It's like one of your kids. You don't want to embarrass you, right?
Starting point is 00:04:31 If it's like, you know, whatever comes out of. They have a little different skill sets. Blues a little better with his nose right now. But Blondia will get better. But he doesn't realize. Because he's first years. When he's going out there through the woods, you know, he's running today. Jay said he was running wide open.
Starting point is 00:04:45 He's looking back at him. But he's so jacked up, you know, emotionally. He's running looking at James. He just runs into a tree. Wow. Wow. I mean, I'm like, you broke a real, brother. there because then he was like,
Starting point is 00:05:00 huh, huh, and so I thought, most dogs do not run into tree. I don't know. Maybe it's just being around y'all. Haven't said that. This is another facet of duck hunting that a lot of people are non-duck hunters
Starting point is 00:05:18 know nothing about men and their animals because they're worth their weight and go. What did you ask? It's bad, muddy. It's thick with brush. Oh, it's tough. And look, these dogs have a nose that could, you know, they can smell a duck at 100 yards if they're downwind. Look, and they can get them where you have to fight by and stickets trying to get them a human.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Well, look, my dog, when he took off, he made three of the greatest retreats today. Very good retreats. He ran into a tree. I mean, look, his eyes are bloodshot. There was blood all on him, and I thought it was a duck from retrieving the duck. And I was looking, I was like, oh, no, that's his blood. I mean, he's just running into snags. He's got one speed wide open.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But look, we shot a whiggin, which we had a bunch of whizding come in. I made a bad call on it because I made an impulse. We have not seen a bunch of whizden, which a lot of people say, widgeon. Is that even a duck? We don't get a lot of whizden around here. American, the correct name would be American ball pate. The ball pate.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And he's a beautiful duck. Beautiful duck. But we don't see many of them anymore. I'll tell you, we look up and here comes eight or ten, and Phil's blowing a teal call at them. And there's a lot of shuffling in the blind, and my dog, he senses your excitement. Everyone's on edge.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Everybody's on edge. We hadn't had the greatest of hunts. And those whizzen, when they turned up in their wings, even though it was cloudy, I could see that they were widgeing. Yeah, from the wing pat. Well, then I became like my dog. I was like, and they, they drove. drop down and I just thought they were closer than what they appeared.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I was just like, kill them. And we raise up, bum, bomb, bum, bum, bum, and one comes out, but he falls pretty far. So I take off. And I think the last words I said, if I have to be out here all day, I'm getting that widgeon. My dog went with me. We walked, I would say 200 yards because I had it kind of marked. We're on dry land. Big woods.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And I see some flickering way off in the distance. and I realized this whiggin is trying to take off, and my dog sees it. And my dog chases that duck till almost out of sight. And I saw him jump at it because it could barely fly. And so I thought, well, he got it. A flying duck being chased by a dog. Yeah. So I thought he got it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Well, then he looked up and was looking at me. I looked to the right, and there he goes again through the woods, you know, and he sees it. He's back on him. So then they did go out of sight. And I thought, well, we got a 50-50 chance. a couple minutes comes by, here he comes. With the duck in his mouth.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I was like, okay, you're forgiven for all the excitement. It's the prettiest widgeon I've seen in my life. We're all, you know, cumbaya. We're all holding hands and singing that. We've hooked them again, Josie. And then we get back, then Sae claims to have shot the mythical widgeon, you know, shooting his little pop gun. So I'm like, well, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Things are back to reality. Yeah, I heard the story, Stone was demonstrated. or yesterday there was a controversy over because he says he shot a banded duck you were out of the blind so you weren't a part of it but he said you and he and you shot it and the but sye was claiming it you know or whatever the guest then said he shot yeah then the guest said you're a guest you didn't shoot it you're out he said you claim this duck you're not invited to come with this ever he told him he said and by the way i've seen you shoot you didn't shoot that duck i've been watching you see you know it's funny as grown men over something
Starting point is 00:08:55 the government puts on their track birds. They, you know, they call bands jewelry. Right. It's because it's on their leg. Yeah, it's like a bracelet. I've seen grown men lose their integrity and get fighting mad over a little piece of tin on a duck. It goes without saying we have long strings of bands.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh, yeah. Because like this year, I can think of five, six probably. Yeah, I think we should. Back in the old days, did people ever. come to blows over it back before? Oh, no. Okay, I wondered about that. Well, I thought I did something this year that would change that culture. I took it for the team. I tried to go Philippians to, you know, humble yourselves,
Starting point is 00:09:36 you know, like Jesus did, and maybe that'll change it. So here's what happened. We're sitting there. We've got a young cameraman that works for Duck Commander. His name's Hunter, so I was like, you qualify. Perfect. So he's in there, and we're unloading our guns. The hunt's over. And he says, Mr. Chase. I mean he's 25 years old, why he's coming in Michigan. Because you're old.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He said, in the decoys. And I looked up, and there's two wood ducks coming in the decoys. He has his camera like, you know, hey, shoot those, which we weren't looking because we were leaving. I put a shell in my gun, raised up and shot one of the wood ducks. Well, and we just left him there until we were packing up. Well, when somebody went and got to wood a wood duck, it had a band on it. So I thought, here's my moment. Because I asked Hunter, I said, he's a hunter, even though he's, he's, he's
Starting point is 00:10:24 film and he duck hunts i said have you ever shot a band and he said no sure i said i'm going to give you this band because you spotted the duck if you hadn't spotted the duck the duck the would have flared i wouldn't and shot the duck so technically i was like i'm gonna and jay's like why you giving it to him he didn't he don't even hunt i said because he spotted it and does it and he's like man i think it's awesome i mean we made his day we turned the you're having a teaching moment the duck was from kentucky then a week later that you know they're ready to have a fist fight over this band yesterday so I thought you know what didn't work they banded the duck in Kentucky and he flew all the way down in front of our line in north Louisiana I got one
Starting point is 00:11:10 the other day sent it in somebody sitting in on the computer you know they you can get them now just get the numbers sent it in on the computer they'll tell you what you think it actually makes that sound down I'm going to give you some breaking news the computer no longer makes racket yeah it doesn't it's like TV you can you can put the volume on it'll be a person. I hear a lot of strange sounds coming out of people with computers in their pocket. That's all I know. But anyway, this duck was banded in Wisconsin, which that was unusual. That mattered, right? And yeah, I had a couple of teal this year, one blue-wing teal and one green wing teal. One of them was banded in the Crotts Springs, Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Really? Yep. Last spring, when they were coming back from the Yucatan, where they winter. So someone had trapped one and put a band on him. But last year, year. Well, I got that one. And there was a green wing teal in some little town in Mississippi. I never heard of it, but that's where that one was banded. So it's pretty unique. And when you look at where these ducks come from, the question is, what department in saltwater implemented the migratory instinct? I've used that before as an example. I mean, why do ducks migrate? You just think about it. All they do is feed the food chain. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yep. I mean, who put in those ducks to fly south? Because if you did it from a community standpoint from the ducks, it's not working. You die by the millions. It's a pound or two per duck, depending on the size and what type duck it is. But they're coming en masse by the, there's over 100 million. Right. And they're coming in mass across the North American continent from the Canadian prairies all the way down.
Starting point is 00:12:58 to Mexico and there are a lot of things besides us that are using them as a food source. Yeah, much more than us. So people say, you know, in argument, they say, well, what do you mean? The weather pushes them down. But I'm like, well, once they get down here, why don't they just stay? Yeah. Yeah. They all go back.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They all go back. There's plenty of ponds around here. They go back. They go back. And that's just ducks. You have Arctic turns and all these other birds and all kinds of migratory birds that are coming from a long distance. Food source, food source. I think it's a great evidence.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Hawks, owls, foxes, alligators, everything's eating them. I do think it's a great evidence that there is a guy. It is. You're not going to come up with anything a duck is good for except for food. Well, two things before we leave this. One, as I talked to our old friend, W.E. the other day, and he was telling me a tale about two Mallor Drake's banded that were killed like two years apart,
Starting point is 00:13:53 but both were banded in the same batch, 13 years ago and they both wound up in the same spot in front of him in Arkansas and he shot him both probably brothers out of the same I mean what are the odds of that I killed the cameras
Starting point is 00:14:08 It's like 12 or 13 years old yeah I killed the cameras back and the numbers had worn off the band it's a piece of aluminum is what the aluminum bands lightweight but this one he had worn it so long
Starting point is 00:14:23 it almost had one and two, and it was just fall off, and that's it. So I said, man, that's been on that duck a long time, as smooth as that is. Well, I sent it to the state police, and they got some kind of stuff they put on there, and they raised them. So you get the numbers, yeah. You know, because people file, lost zero numbers on the firearm. But anyway, they checked it, and they gave me the number, and he was 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. But he had been there. He had made 12 migratory trips and back during his life. That's a long time. We were marveling about that he had killed. killed two out of the same batch have been doing the same thing like 13 trips. So the last thing I'll say about this, Jay, it's just to show you that your leading by example is working with your duck blind
Starting point is 00:15:06 compadres. The end of that story. So Stone at the end of the hunt, I guess because they've been arguing the old time. So he looks over at the guest and he says, you want this duck? And he said, well, yeah, I killed it. You know, they're still, you know. Over the band. So Jay cuts the duck's leg off, takes the band and throws the duck over to.
Starting point is 00:15:26 the guest. Sure, you can have it now. There's your leadership by example. It's not working on. You can eat it. Anyway. It's something, I guess. So I thought we were moving on
Starting point is 00:15:40 and John but Jason at the end of our last podcast had one last tantalizing thought. Well, you made an analogy that, you know, since John the Baptist was blunt and vocal, and he leaned a little on the truth side as far as Jesus came full of grace and truth.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And we know other people who do that, especially when it comes to sin. I'm not going to mention any names. But I think coming from that is you get, he had a lot of bumper sticker moments, in my opinion, of just one-liners that are awesome. One of them is in John 1.15, where John testifies, we touched on this a little bit. concerning Jesus because he prepared the way. And he cries out saying, this was he of whom I said.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And he makes this profound statement. He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me. Now look, just to show you that that was a bumper-sticker moment in John 1 and verse, I thought he said it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. Look in verse 30.
Starting point is 00:17:01 The next day, you know, in 29, John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, look, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, which is another profound statement. But then look what he says. This is the one I meant when I said, a man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me, which I have a rule. Anytime the Bible repeats itself, I take a note.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I take note. That's right. Because it's all inspired by God. And when he says something and then he says it again, okay, we're emphasizing. The Holy Spirit is emphasizing something here. And so I just like that statement because it shows you that God's DNA through Jesus
Starting point is 00:17:47 is way different from ours. Because how do you interpret that statement? The one who was before me has, no, the one after me. after has surpassed me because he was before me let's just discuss some of yourselves I mean a statement is that that's a big statement I mean it doesn't fit into a human narrative because we couldn't we can't do that like he's surpassed John the Baptist knew he was a human although miraculously conceived you know his mother
Starting point is 00:18:27 was barren. Right. He knew that. Yeah. But he is accentuating, is zero and in on the one, the one that's going to save the world, he's God. Right. He was there before me, meaning I haven't always been here, but he has.
Starting point is 00:18:46 That's right. You see what I'm saying? He had only become flesh when he came out of the Virgin Mary. Right. But Jesus was there during creation, or the Bible wouldn't say through him, all things were made. Right. You see what I'm saying? Well, and I've always thought, it's curious because
Starting point is 00:19:06 you're right, you know the story of the two pregnant women. We talked about that before, you know, John the Baptist mother and Mary. We know that he knew some of what was going on way back then. You know there had to be stories told about it. And yet, 30 years have gone by.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Remember, they're 30-year-old men now. That's right. And so, you know, I'm not sure. He was told specifically by God to do what he was doing. You go out in the wilderness, you start baptizing people of repentance. We talked about this before. He didn't give John the full scoop. He didn't get the whole scoop. And he didn't know it. And reason wise is because of what you just read. He said, I would not have known who he was. And he didn't want to baptize Jesus. Remember,
Starting point is 00:19:48 Jesus came to him? That's right. But the point is, when he saw him, what statement did he made? That statement, if you realize that Jesus hadn't died yet, it's one thing to say, hey, Jesus, he's the Lamb of God. He takes way the sins of the world. It's another. thing to say that before Jesus died. That's correct. That's right. He's already, you know what it reminds me of of Abraham when he was asked to sacrifice his son? In Hebrews 11 says he just figured, reasoned the word. Reasoned that God could raise the dead. Yeah. Well, you know what? When you reason to the
Starting point is 00:20:24 resurrection, that's pretty sharp out there. I'm looking at a situation. I know Jesus came back to beyond the shadow of a doubt but if I got put in that situation even knowing that it would be the most difficult thing ever right but you take you take a situation where you have no knowledge of someone ever returning from the dead and hey God you know hint hint wink wink whispers in your ear and says sacrifice your son right I'm like heck no that's right but he reasoned and John the Babbs did the same thing they knew the plan they trust trusted so much they trusted the plan and figured it out another thing that's critical is
Starting point is 00:21:08 that you have to remember that Matthew 16 after after after Peter had confessed Jesus as Lord he told Peter to give him the keys to the kingdom of heaven so he's going to be the one that unlocks the door of the kingdom but if you notice God was very, how shall I say this, he chose the time to tell them what was fixing to happen, and he basically was doing it when he was on the earth. Before he died, was buried and resurrected. He was traveling pretty well incognito a while because Matthew 16, 21, from that time on, well, that's been quite a while from the ministry, the time Jesus began his ministry. Right. From that time on, Jesus began, began, which he hadn't really filled him in the details.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And John the Baptist was calling the Lamb of God, and everybody was like, who in the world exactly is, is. And Jesus is not giving them much enlightenment on the topic. He's just sort of quiet. There's something about, you know, over in First Corinthians where it says they wouldn't have crucified if the rulers and powers of the evil one had known who he was, they wouldn't have crucified it. They didn't know, the evil one didn't know Jesus was going to save the world by his death. Right. So if you look, it says from that time on, Matthew 16, 21, Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests,
Starting point is 00:22:50 and teachers of the law that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. Never, Lord, this is not going to happen to you. Here's Peter arguing with the reason Jesus had become flesh to begin with, God becoming flesh. The reason was so he could die. But and be raised from the dead and solve our sin problem and our grave problem. Peter was argued about him, but that just shows you even Peter, a disciple of Jesus. He knew what everything was going on.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Not at all. Neither did John the Baptist. Nope. It was kept hidden by God. You get over and look in Ephesians, you know. It's a mystery hidden, hidden, hidden. Throughout the book of Ephesians, this comes up over and over and over. I'll just give you a few of them.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Listen to this. Here's the Apostle Paul to the church at Ephesus, and here's the way he describes the gospel. Let's see. what's this surely you heard about the administration this is Feasance 3 the administration
Starting point is 00:24:03 of God's grace that was given to me that is the mystery made known to me by revelation because he didn't get it either as I've already written therefore you'll be able to understand my insight into the mystery
Starting point is 00:24:20 of Christ which was not made known to men and other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit of God's Holy Apostles and Prophet. This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are ours together with Israel, you know, the Gentiles. Well, you look down in verse 9, to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God who created all things.
Starting point is 00:24:51 So you start reading all them texts and putting them together, or how you say you know what it remained a mystery until the very day it happened and to this day to millions it's still a mystery out it's a mystery because of this statement that john that we're discussing most times people can't figure something out because we go by the laws of nature uh time gravity yep but when if you have a being that came from a version that came from a version Well, that means the rules no longer apply. If you have a person leave without the aid of a spaceship. Something big going on here.
Starting point is 00:25:35 When he says, hey, I was before Abraham, you're like, the laws are being manipulated. So I look at it like time, space, matter. None of those apply to Jesus. That's why you take a simple verse that throw people who don't believe into chaos. They don't understand it. It's like Hebrews 138. It says Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever, which was John the Baptist's point. The reason he's, the ones coming after me, he surpassed me because he was before me.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He basically quoted Hebrews 138. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever. People are like, well, I don't understand that. He's outside of time, outside of space, has always been there. created the cosmos, you're like, this to Jesus, it's a snap. But that's why it's a mystery. That's why it's a mystery. And look, to go with what you're saying, Colossians 1 says the mystery of godliness is that
Starting point is 00:26:35 Christ is great. Yeah, is great, is that Christ is in you. I mean, that is something that this same Christ, who John the Baptist is referring to. He enters human beings. Yeah, through His Holy Spirit. and you're like, a lot of people say, ah, that's, no way, no way. But it's funny because you shouldn't, because you have a spirit. I mean, the idea of the Holy Spirit shouldn't be a big deal to people, you have a spirit.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Sure. If you see a, you go to a funeral and there's a body laden in a casket, you see their body, but something's missing. The spirit is missing. So you've got a spirit. So why wouldn't God then be able to have part of His Holy Spirit speak to your spirit? And to go back to duck hunting and dog training and not. Look at creation. It's so look how much life there is.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And things die. And guess what? It comes back. I mean, you're living on just a planet full of life. That's right. And things come back. It's like you can't go anywhere and not see this process. I looked down in the water yesterday over there in the middle of the woods.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I just looked down into the water, and the water owl was teeming with little swimming creatures. I mean, it was just full of them. Well, a lot of these ducks are eating a lot of these things and vertebrates. But I would just look down in the water, and it was just like it was alive. It was just working alive. And I thought, man, there is life. My dog drank that water all morning. Hey, and you wonder why he acts a little funny from time to time.
Starting point is 00:28:20 in my truck right now because it's sleeting outside. It's a little wormy. I may open the door and say, hello, because I know when I drink anything with a lot of creatures in it, by the way, usually the problems. What Jesus was going to do to save the world, if the rulers and authorities had known about it,
Starting point is 00:28:40 they wouldn't have crucified the Lord of Glory. That's one. And at the bottom of where I started a while ago, God's intent was Ephesus 310, that now through the church, that be us, the man of full wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms according to His eternal purpose
Starting point is 00:29:05 which He accomplished in Christ Jesus, our Lord, and we may approach God with freedom and confidence and I ask you not to be discouraged because of my severance, right? That was John the Baptist's point. you know look he he's far greater than me i mean i'm not even worried that i tie his shoes well we talked about from the old testament the the jewish mindset they would have understood they're looking for the messiah they knew that someone in the spirit of elijah or even like jason was saying maybe even elijah was going to come back but basically john the badbist was just a neon sign
Starting point is 00:29:44 and that was his purpose in life was the point it's interesting because you go over to john three yeah that's where i was going yeah i was going because i want to wanted to get another profound statement. Yeah, we'd do that. He was baptized, and then this big argument breaks out in verse 22 through about 25. 25 says an argument developed between some of John's disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. Which is what we talked about before.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We've talked about before because they're like, wait a minute, what are you baptizing? And John's baptizing, saying believe in the one who's coming. And oh, yeah, there he is, the Lamb of God right over there. I'm sure the argument was, why are you baptized? Why shouldn't he be baptized if he's the Lamb of God? What do you do? I mean, whatever the argument was. But from my experience, my family, it don't take much to start an argument.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I've always thought it was because since he said ceremony of Washington, Jews, it's like, wait a minute, you're out here baptizing these people. You go to the temple for that. That's where you cleanse and you, you know. You're right. I mean, I think that was part of the argument. I mean, Jesus destroyed this ritualistic view of worship. And even in our religion, today.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You really did. A lot of people have a problem with that, you know, on every street corner. Church is turned into into this ritualistic type. Let's worship for 70 minutes and then go. But they treat a building like a temple. Go on about our life when we walk out the door. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You know, we don't want to be too excited in here. You can't eat a sandwich in here. You know, we have to be, you know. Don't you have homesed? We're in the sanctuary. Because I've had people like, look, they respond to Jesus. They want to live for Jesus. and you're like, they want to be baptized.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I'm like, find the nearest water. But like I've had people say, well, I thought I had to do it in a church. And somebody ordained. An ordained man had to do it. To make it official, see. Well, I don't know. John and Jesus was down here on the riverbank. That didn't seem to say, let's go to the cathedral.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But anyway, this argument breaks out. And I love this statement. Here's another bumper sticker moment. To this, John replied, a man. can receive only what is given from heaven. And his point, he makes his point later, you can read the argument, and his point was when he said,
Starting point is 00:32:00 look, you yourselves can testify that I said, I'm not the Christ, but him sent ahead of him. The bride belongs to the bridegroom. And, you know, John was making a profound statement, which we really all could say about anything positive in our life. It's not about us. I mean, anything good that's happening to me, even in the way I was made before Jesus, it came from heaven.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It comes back to that belief that we're made in the image of God and then we're recreated in Jesus. And that was his point. Right. It's an awesome statement, you know? Well, it was my core rule. It's just what you just said. I preached for years. And it's easy for guys in the pulpit in churches to think they're great because they get people,
Starting point is 00:32:47 that love them and give them praise. And then there's also times when they think they're terrible because people are mad. You said this. But I always think, I'm neither. I'm not terrible because I'm working for the Almighty. So he's going to give me what to say. So, you know, take it up with him. And I'm not great because Christ is great.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm just the guy. I'm just the relayer of information. So I used to tell our staff. But everybody should have that. Yeah, don't let praise or criticism stick to you. You're just doing the almost working the amount. like they can't share Jesus because they're like, well, I'm not, you know, qualified or I don't have a way with words. And whatever you're expressing is coming from heaven anyway. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And when we speak, look, you have the greatest book ever written. They're a little confused on the difference between a disciple of Jesus and a theologian. That's right. They're a little confused there. Lots of theologians are running around. But I think it comes back to that club mindset. A lot of people, they go to church because they want to think that they have figured out the way God wants you to set all this up, you know, set the, what would you call it, you know? The process. Set the process up. Because that's why you have so many different churches, which is so frustrating to the world.
Starting point is 00:34:06 They're looking around and say, I don't want to be involved in that. Y'all can't get along. I can't find two of you that agree on anything. That's what you have. Which ones are right? There's 2,500 different types. I'm out. Thousands of different times.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And so everybody argues about the process, and I think that this one statement from John would just clear up a lot of that. Whatever good we got going on or whatever things we say, it's coming from heaven. That's the source. It's not us. It's not old preacher Joe down here. He's just the best preacher I ever heard.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I don't know why he's any better than anybody else. We got the same manual we coming from, same spirit from heaven. you know but I just like him you know and that's what people do they tend to lift up the guy and then the guy feels like remember that guy that told us it's like whenever people compliment you about your speaking they're like pouring gas on you you know you know be careful about that because it's not you it's really not i always figure when i was preaching um 10% of the audience was going to love me no matter what 10% was going to not like me no matter what so i'm kind of working
Starting point is 00:35:14 on the middle 80 anyway, just trying to give them something to encourage them. But a lot of people have asked, we've got a lot of questions, from viewers and listeners that are like, how do I do? I want to share, you know, I want to be able to talk about Jesus, but they're like afraid because it's like, how do I start that conversation? Whether there's somebody at work, somebody in your family or whatever. So what advice would y'all give them just in the day-to-day living about how to talk about Jesus or how to talk about whatever?
Starting point is 00:35:42 My number one fear I've always said, and you've heard me say this many times, was public speaking. I was real shy as a kid. Look, I grew out of it. You know why? Because the spirit of God changed me. I just realized that if I'm going to try to be a disciple of Jesus at a public high school, I'm not going to be able to do that quietly. I tried for two years. It just didn't work.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And so I got it in my head that I thought, you know what, if I stood before God and he said, why should you be here? Why should I let you in heaven? I would come up with an explanation. Now, it would be centered and focused on Jesus Christ and what he did, you know, on a cross from my sins and the resurrection. But I would be able to explain that if God asked me to. And so then I thought, well, if I could explain it to God,
Starting point is 00:36:32 you know, if he put that to me to say, share why you should be here, well, then why, how come I couldn't do that to my buddy? and that's just what I got in my head and I thought you know what I'm not going to be embarrassed or ashamed I mean we we do this podcast and call it unashamed but that's it's like I'm not going to be a shame that I'm going to heaven and so the first time I did it I was so nervous because it was my best friend and I thought you know what if there's a heaven and we're going to live forever I want this guy there because he's funny and I like him and so I told him that's how I started
Starting point is 00:37:06 I said look I know me and you have kind of gone our separate ways because I'm I mean, he was getting drunk every night, sleeping with any woman he could find. And I wasn't. And I said, look, this is going to get a little weird, but I found a way to live forever. I'm going to heaven. And here's how I came up with that. And look, I was so nervous that when I would turn the page of the Bible, I would rip it out. And he was like, why are you shaking?
Starting point is 00:37:31 You sound like bigging. I was like, well, I'm nervous, you know. To answer your question, Al, last night. I was talking a couple of individuals, and I just reminded them. One of the ways you said was, how would you just, you know, just people who are afraid to say anything,
Starting point is 00:37:55 they don't know. One thing you could do is just say, let me ask you something. I had Dan go over there and demonstrate it. I said, Dan, who's the woman who knows everything? And he said, Alexa? I said, yeah, call Alexa and ask her, what year is it in China?
Starting point is 00:38:15 And so he did. And Alexa said, 2019, that's what, it was before the new year. And I said, what about North Korea? I said, well,
Starting point is 00:38:24 2019. So Alexa was saying it was 2019 years. It's now 2020 years. I just asked people, I said, if you ever wondered, if there's a 2020,
Starting point is 00:38:38 that means if you went backwards, you would get back to year one. I said, why is it that everyone on the earth is saying it's the year 2020, but they don't know why it's 2020 years from what or from whom? So if you look at it, now I did that last night with him too. And they both looked at it and they said, we never thought about that. It's a great icebreaker. He said, we never thought about that.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I said, well, once you now understand that you're counting time, I said, the atheist are still saying, no, we're not counting time by Jesus. But why is it we're all agreeing that it's 2020 years since Jesus came down like the book of John, in flesh like the book of John says? I just don't understand why anybody wouldn't look at it and say, well, you have a point. I think it's a legitimate way to get in. I mean, to me, if I know people, I'm sincere. I'm like, I love you.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I want you to go with us. I mean, why are we counting time by one individual? If I don't know them, I may do Phil's approach. You know, a lot of times, I went through for years. I've asked the three questions. I don't have to know them to ask that. I just want to know what do you think? And they're like, huh.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm just saying. Well, you deal with a lot more, more of an argumentative. So a lot of people come to you and they're trying to tell you why there's no God. It's 2,020 years from something. There's no argument here. I mean, who will be counting time by, if anybody? So, yeah. So what I'm saying, dad, and I'll say this, has always been,
Starting point is 00:40:16 since dad doesn't go anywhere, we've established out on the pocket. Like, we live lives with people. Dad lives down here on the river. But people come here, and they've been coming for years. They just pull up. They just pull up. And so dad learned a long time ago. He figured, well, God must be sending them out here.
Starting point is 00:40:31 So I got to everyone that comes, this is what you're going. And someone will say, I'm a brother. I'm a Christian, Phil. Good, but some will say they don't know, right? Phil said if they show up down here, they're either lost or they're lost. You mean when you said that? I was like, well, I'm just saying. He's like they're either lost.
Starting point is 00:40:53 They don't even know where they're at or they're lost. Either way. I'm the guy. It's simple questions like, by the way, what are all the years called before Jesus got here? And as it turns out, the irony of it is, they're called BC, which is short for before Jesus got here. And they're like, huh, well, at least I would think you would investigate that particular individual. That's a valid statement.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But if you went to some of our universities, they would say that, you know, it's all just a sham. But that's why I said. But they're still writing down 2,020 years from something. True. This really was not a date based on anyone, but it is 2,000. I think you're getting upset about that. No, he's just making this point. Look, so I asked the three questions because I introduced that and people will be email
Starting point is 00:41:46 and what were the three questions, but they're pretty simple. How did you get here? What are you doing here? And how are you leaving? Those are three good life questions for human beings. And you can read in Paul's sermon, Act 17, and he sort of answers those three questions, which is you came from God, you're here to find God, you know, to seek. God and find, and then how are we leaving? Resurrection. I wanted to give you my last time.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Hang on. Before you do that, let me just cap what you just said with a verse that is a directive for what you described. First Peter 315. In your heart set apart Christ is Lord. That's for you to do. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. But do this with gentleness and respect. So there you go. All right. I wanted to give you this one because this is my favorite from John to Baptist. This is John 3.30.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And he said, because this is right after he said, a man can receive only what is given from heaven. Then he talked about the bride belongs to the bridegroom. And then he says, he must become greater. I must become less. Yep. Now you want a bumper sticker for daily living as a disciple of Jesus? that's it.
Starting point is 00:43:08 We don't even have to discuss that because everyone knows what that means. You've got to become less, he's got to become greater. There is your secret to disciple of Jesus living. That's right. That's why I tell people about Jesus.
Starting point is 00:43:24 That's right. Yeah. And the last one is he says this, now look, I'm not sure exactly what it means, but I like it. It makes me want to run through a wall. In verse 34, it says, For the one whom God has sent, because he was speaking of Jesus,
Starting point is 00:43:40 speaks the words of God, and here's our bumper sticker moment, for God gives the spirit without limit. There's no, I thought of everything in life that has a limit. You know, the speed limit, bummer, you know, whatever limit. Duck limit. Yeah, duck limit. Major bummer. But I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:02 God gives His Holy Spirit. There's no limit. there's no limit so that's why usually when somebody's asking me if they're too excited or can we do this or i want to do that in the name of jesus i'm like go for it so so there's an old saying jace from way back the sky's the limit that's right but not really not really it's beyond the sky we're beyond that i think that's why you see i mean just i know it's hard to discuss that i mean i brought up a pretty complex deep thing on the last minute. But, you know, I'm just, I'm just saying when you think about that,
Starting point is 00:44:41 that God gives the spirit without limit, I mean, that is an exciting thought. So if you really believe that, which obviously John the Baptist did, so to the Apostle Paul, the rest of them, that were our example, you can lay your head across a stump at 30 years old and allow somebody to take a sword and cut it off because that's what happened to all these guys. That's right. And the only way you do that is if you know that the Holy Spirit is without limit and that I will live again.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Otherwise, you run away screaming from any situation like that. So their example, testimony witness, there's what we're talking about, but that's how you do it. And to me, it's in contrast with everything the world says that we view as good. You know, they'll say be the best you can be. Well, really, there's limitations there. when you have the Holy Spirit of God, he tears down the limitations.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, there is no. You start believing in the impossible, which goes back to him. You know, he's not bound by time, space, you know, that's why when all of us,
Starting point is 00:45:42 someone close to us or our friends or even if they're not, but, you know, when we pray to God, I fervently believe it, if, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:50 a patient goes to a doctor and they say, oh, he'll be dead in two weeks. I'm thinking, not necessarily. That's right. You know,
Starting point is 00:45:57 we pray, and we've, every one of us have been involved in a situation many times where they said, this guy will be dead. I got one of my good friends. One of my lines I use when I see them later is I thought you weren't supposed to be here. And they grin and I do too. And that's about it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 There's a kid because we see a lot of kids in trouble, you know, through their life. And there's a kid who has some rare disease that it's about this long. I can't even pronounce it. And the average lifespan is seven years old. he is the oldest living kid with with this condition to date and look he's he's 20 years old and that guy he's very inspirational i have my phone and we talk lots of times and he is convinced that the lord healed him and he goes everywhere he goes and he shares how good god is and i'm like you're never going to convince me that god just said you know what watch this i'm i see the guy he's the
Starting point is 00:46:56 oldest living person with this condition and in his mind the first time i met him you know every all his family were upset and they were crying he wasn't he said god god heal me and i'm like he did he's like yep he said they just have a hard time accepting that but they'll figure it out i met this kid when he was like nine he's 20 i love it so so we got to run we got to run but one last bumper sticker days but it's not about john the bad it was but it's one of my favorites you said something many ago made me think of it. Romans 418, Against all hope, Abraham in hope, believe. I mean, you talk about believing the impossible,
Starting point is 00:47:38 and we know what he was talking about because he knew, I kill him, my kid, God's going to raise him up, because he's already told me what's going to happen. So against all hope, Abraham in hope, believe. So if somebody tells you there's no hope. All my offspring that saved the world, including Jesus, the seed line of Jesus was coming through, my seed line and he said go kill him and get rid of him.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You're like, okay, give him my knife. He said, evidently he's going to raise it from the dead, but I'm going to do what he told me. Next time somebody comes and talks about some faith. I have no hope. I'm hopeless. And you say, now you're ready to hope. That's right. Now you're ready.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Good stuff. Thanks for coming along the journey with us. Keep sending in questions and ideas. We try to work those in as they work into our Bible studies. keep those coming, keep watching, keep telling other people about it. This is, we're doing exactly what we challenge you to do by doing this podcast. So we're encouraged by that. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Somebody makes some John the Baptist bumper stickers because they were pretty dang good. Yeah, you told somebody to write a song and they did. Now maybe somebody will do something. They did. They sent me a song and it was awesome. Yeah. So I don't know his name, but thank you for the song. So bumper stickers.
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