Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 490 | Zach Questions Jase’s DIY Haircut & Phil Redefines a Vacation

Episode Date: June 5, 2022

The Robertson family is on vacation, and Phil is glad they got away! Zach thinks Jase's new DIY haircut is hilarious, but Jase was thrilled with the outcome. Jase discusses the mystery of godliness and tackles the difficulty of keeping yourself pure while dating before marriage. Zach details how your walk with Christ should be liberating, not binding you to a lifetime commitment of dodging sins. Zach explains how man is tempted to find a system so perfect that we will no longer have to be good. Phil goes into depth about laws having no impact on the crime rates, and Zach reveals the solution to sin ... yes, really. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, we're coming to you from our vacation, home away from home, Gulf Shores, Alabama. Actually, we're in Orange Beach. So I mentioned a couple of podcasts ago that Andy Andrews is a friend of mine has let us use the studio. So that's where, Zach, you just happened to be here. You're not really in our family vacation, but your family and you're here while we're here. And we're on vacation. And your own vacation.

I was wondering why you just didn't come with us. I mean, is there a problem? I didn't get the invite. You're invited. Well, now. I don't know. They're like cordwood. So dad's living the summer of Phil.

He's back home in the studio. Dad, can you hear us in Louisiana? I can hear you all loud and clear. Let's see, y'all are in the midst of a blazing sun beating down upon you with no cover unless you bring some kind of umbrella. there's a lot of water there all of it is not drinkable and you got half naked women running around y'all are just this sort of hell and i'm over here way up here in the woods uh and there's always a little excitement from time to time but uh other than that we're pretty good i just saw something

that uh last night that occurred to me uh when peter was talking in acts 1034 when he was explaining what it was like to follow Jesus. He said, he said, he went around doing good. He came with the Holy Spirit and power. He went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil because God was with him. You get to Colossians down at Colossians 1, verse 10, he makes a statement. we pray this in order for y'all to live a life worthy of the Lord may please him in every good work

bearing fruit in every good work which what Jesus was doing and then it says growing in the knowledge of God being strengthened with all power according to his glorious might so the same wordage is used in Acts 1034 from my eyewitness Peter and when the apostle Paul wrote Colossians, he brought up those same two things, going around bearing fruit and every good work and strengthening with all power according to the glorious might. So you may have endurance and patience and joyfully giving thanks to the Father, who's qualified you to share in the inheritance and the saints in the kingdom of light. When Jesus was going all around, the kingdom was at hand. But when it came, Paul is addressing this crowd saying,

Be like this by the power of God and go around doing good. It's not rocket science. And when put into practice, it becomes pretty easy just going around doing good and doing it by the power of the spirit that lives in him. I thought that was pretty cool. What about it, Al? I like that. We always say we start the podcast with,

the cold open, but dad, that was a hot take is what that was. That was a hot field take. I like that act 1034. That's really good. God doesn't show favoritism. He accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right. That's good. You bet. It's excellent. And he even covers that. You know, here, there is no scytheon and there's no slave and there's no, he, we works that in and the next chapter. Wait for it. We're getting there. We get there. But that's what you do when you're by yourself and everybody leaves. you sit around and study your Bible. That's right.

So that's good. It's a time of contemplation. That's correct. What dad had told us, Zach, on one of the last podcasts, because I was like, for years, we've kind of felt bad about you not coming, like you're there by yourself. And mom gets people to drop by, you know, because she's worried about him being alone. And dad's like, oh, it's the best time of my life. He loves it.

When y'all are gone, it's quiet around here. You know, it's the summer of felt. Hey, those two dogs. Those two dogs. of Miss Kay, Bobo, you know, the UPS truck got him, but the two that are left, they've never even had so much as a whimper. When Miss Kay leaves, all they do is just sit there, and when I look over there at them, they're looking at them, they're looking at them, but they never make a sound. They don't eat any of their dog food, and out of the morning I heard one of them kind of wailing because Miss Kay wasn't there, you know. And they're fast.

But even the dogs are sitting there just waiting. Wait until she comes back, you know. Mom said one of them hopped up in her chair, you told her, and just howled to the moon. Oh, yeah. Because she wasn't there. That's it. Wait.

I don't want to derail things, but I have to address the elephant in the room. In our room. I mean, yeah. What's up with your hair? What's up with your hair? I cut my hair. Look, I don't, most of the time when I cut my hair, no one knows. But I cut my hair, I did it myself.

I'll give you. You cut your own hair? I'll give you the tutorial on how to do it if you want to know. It looks beachy. It looks beachy. So, Phil, here's what I did. It's his beauty. I went in there.

Well, here's the reasoning. One is really hot. Get a free bowl of soup of that hat. It's, I don't like this. for me. So I'm glad you're getting a kick out of this. So you people just listening, I have

what kind of hats of these called? It's a like a bucket hat. It's more like a outdoor bucket hat. But it's the hair. It's like a blunt. It's a blunt. For those, not listening. It's a blunt cut.

I would say like it's just like, well, I cut off a third of my beard and two thirds of my hair. So it was quite the cut. But here's what you got to. remember when you make the first cut because i just i'm standing in the mirror have a pair of scissors i grab the left side and i just pulled it in front of me and i just went whack well the rest of the haircut is trying to line up what you just did to make it even so you keep working your way out and i went a little no i just went a little too far on the first cut because i didn't mean a cut

that much. And what you're seeing is the result of the blossoming. Because it just all what's left goes out. Yeah, it's kind of like a, um, yeah, I don't know. It's like a friar. It's like a, it's like an electric. It's like an electric. I mean like a preach, like an old preacher. What they call? Yeah, the monk. No, it's like you, your hair's all like laid down what little of it you got got. But if you stuck your finger in that socket over there, you'd see it. That's what happens when you have a couple of years of not cutting your hair. It was long. Oh, it was long.

It was down the middle of my back. It says you're not aware of this, but there are people that go to school to learn how to cut hair properly where it's even. So it's not just a poofy fryer do because you're just taking length off. You're not dealing with the depth of it. I love the outcome. But what I'm going to tell you, I want to tell you how to do it. So then I'll go to the right side to make that.

But here's the key. part right in the middle because when you turn around at the mirror you can't reach it and get a visual so i had like a weird rooster tail down the middle all the way down kind of them so then look here's your faith illustration and sermon for the day you just have to grab it and feel and then just sheer faith just take the scissors and just hope you get it and i got most of it now my son pointed out when I saw him. He said, Dad, there's like four streaks of plumps of hair going down the middle of your back. It looks like a foot longer than the rest of your hair. Well, if you want to, if you want to see Jace's hair and you're listening on the podcast, you did to go to the YouTube channel, Phil

Robertson YouTube, and then you can look up this episode. You can see Jace's new haircut. I'll cut my hair. I think you should cut your hair over a couple years of the summertime, but here's why I did it. The main two reasons, this has been an epic year for fleas and ticks, and I have literally battled them for the last few weeks. And when I go in the woods, especially metal detecting, looking the way I do with that massive amount of hair, it's just a draw for critters to think, oh, here's a place I can hang out and live. Let's live here. And so I just got sick of it. I had a tick on my forehead. I mean, and it had been there a while.

I mean, I couldn't say. But it's still long. That's my thing. If you're going to cut it, when Jill cut it that one time, you got dapper. You looked, I mean, you were a man. I cut two thirds of it. That's a lot. This is manageable.

And it's, you know, we used to do this every year when we went to vacation. So I did it to surprise my wife. But she had her issues. But when you have a tick that's on your forehead, and you don't know how long it's been there and you don't notice, then it's time to do something. Yeah, I mean, that's what I figured.

I mean, I had to just. So I had a span of about half a dozen in three days and the fleas were just, I mean, it's been an epidemic this year, fleas and ticks. So I figured I would, I took that as a sign. So you're doing a TV show. How's, how's, we're going to have some continuity issues here. we were done with the TV show now a little birdie told me I shouldn't have done this but guess what

life so if you see me with most of my hair gone in an interview it's still me I mean it doesn't matter the same guy yeah so I don't know we'll deal with that when we get to it so dad do you want to since your home alone maybe you can try your hand to cutting your hair what you think uh those are things I don't think about. Well, Phil, this is all your fault anyway. You started this in our family. And so I think it was good. But I'm just saying I cut my own hair.

It's not that big a deal. And I think I did pretty good. I was pretty happy with how it came out. So I thought Missy would be the most happy. But then she went to Carina's graduation. She graduated from college, we're proud of her. But then, Phil, you'll like this story. So Missy goes to Carina's

graduation and guess what happens she gets food poisoning oh boy at the gathering at the gala what is it with the with the same thing happened to that when he was remember he was graduating college he told that story on a pie that's why i thought phil would like that story although it was although he stepped away so so missy listen to this so missy so missy you know she had a streak of decades without throwing up. Mine's long, but not as long as her. And so she had a vomit street.

Well, she feels sick, but guess where it all comes into a crescendo is in the airport. Oh, no. Went through security. No. She thought,

I think I'm fixed to throw up. And she's literally in the TSA line and she throws up. And not only that, we're talking, I mean, double barrel? Double barrel. Oh.

In the line. That's not good. You know what? I was real proud because she said. The TSA's jobs is not sucky enough. I know. Then you have something like that out. But, well, I've always said, I mean, what was that, Joe,

that the most uncomfortable place in life is trying to have, you know, explosive diarrhea in a public restaurant. I mean, it's just uncomfortable. But when you're in the security line and this is happening. Does she make it through the line? No. No. She didn't make it.

She just said, I looked around and I thought, where's a garbage can? And she's like, the next thing I knew, it was just over. And she said, the only thing I heard was Mia saying, you're okay, you'll be fine. But that kind of warmed myself, you know, almost like she was just trying to kind of wish it away, right?

You're okay. It's okay. She actually said a very nice TSA agent came up and said, you know, what can I do to help? And Missy's like, I need a bathroom. You don't wear the nearest bathroom. She was panicked because she thought they wasn't going to let her on the plane because they're like, what's wrong with you?

You have, you know, monkey pop. Yeah, well, then you got all these illnesses. But she just had food poisoning, but so it was miserable. And then she's got to travel. She was coming here. Yeah, she got here, but she just been in bed for like 24 hours. She was up today, up this morning. And I was like, you like my hair?

And she's like, I got worse problems to deal with. So she wasn't even. Yeah. I'd think that as a no then. Yeah. She categorized it as a problem. Yeah. He's just got.

No, she sent me a text and said it's awesome. So once she thought about it, she was happy. She doesn't like all this hair. She didn't like it. Yeah. So she told me once. She's like, I like having an affair with my husband. Because I'm like a different person.

well she would appreciate the less air i'm sure so anyway we're at the beach we're living it up yeah we're living the dream down here dad yeah i bet are you back with it yeah i love it because you know you're not there so dad just gets up and wanders out of that comes back yeah he comes back he's ready to roll let's uh let's take our first break so what else is anything else jace i mean you well i said i was going to give a fishing report So far, it was a day of catfish only. And not the kind that my dad's been catching, the Apollosius cat. These are the salt water.

If they fin you, you've been poisoned. You know, you're having a lot of catfish. We call a lot of catfish, but I mean, the seas are rough at this time. A lot of seaweed. It's just been rough. And we're hoping the next two or three days it'll die down. I have a better report. but so far, Phil, all we got is saltwater catfish.

Can you even eat them? We didn't eat them when turned them back. They're known to be trash fish down there. Yeah, so we haven't ate them. Especially since we've been eating up. We're after the Pompano, but we just haven't struck yet, so I'll keep you. So I will give you this fishing report. So the first day, before y'all got here, Jay and BK went out deep sea,

went out on the boat. And they were going for a red snapper because it's still red snaresna. Where it was, it's closed now. But they were going for the red snapper. But they didn't catch any red snapper. The only person on the boat that caught any fish was BK. She caught two trigger fish, which are delicious, by the way. It's my favorite Gulffish right now.

I kind of go back and forth. So little BK, one more time, she's the champion of the hunt or the fish. She's an angler. Yeah. What was the fish she called? Triggerfish. Yeah, the trigger. Yeah, it's a really white, flaky. It's delicious. So they happen a lot down here.

Before we get into the, for our text, I got a couple of events coming up. I want to mention, in case you're in the area, on Saturday, June the 4th, 9 to 12. Lisa and I were doing a marriage seminar at the Tabernacle Church of God in Christ with the Bishop Matthews. Oh, this guy is amazing. It's in South Haven, Mississippi. So if you're in that area, you want to check it out. Also, we're going to be doing a barnstorm across Kansas, they're trying to amend their constitution, dad, to basically have in their constitution that abortion is not a constitutional right. And so, you know, and it's called value them both, talking about the woman and the baby. So we're going to be five cities and two days. So if you go

to value them boat.com, you can see where we're going to be. But I think we're doing a little barnstorm to try to rally folks to vote on this amendment. So if you're in Kansas, be sure in and vote for that amendment for not only protect women but it also protects kids which is what we're all about so awesome uh so you want to dive into yeah some colossians we're in jack we're in colossians three um which is uh i think we went through the first four verses the last time and um we talked about in the last podcast that it's kind of now a lifestyle we got into the lifestyle side of it. And it's all based on the idea that when Jesus is Lord, when he's the one in charge, then the response should be natural. And it starts out those first four verses last

time we talked about how our spiritual. Yeah, heart, soul, and mind is the idea about what we're going. And so today we were kind of at that point starting in verse five where we start talking about specifics of what kind of sinful behavior he's talking about. And I thought, it was interesting because he sort of frames it, Jace, with some things you put to death, but then some things you bring to life. You know, so it's kind of a two-step process that you go through. So you just want to read this text? Let me read this first few verses here, and we'll talk about it.

He says in verse five, put to death, therefore, when your heart, soul, mind, string through in the right place, whatever belongs to your earthly nature, or some say the flesh, What is your say, Zach, on that word? Say it flesh? It says impurity, passion, evil, desire, greed. Let's see here. Therefore, consider your members of your earthly body. Okay.

It's dead to, earthly body, is dead to immorality, impurity, passions, evil desires, and greed. Okay. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming. You used to walk in these ways in the life you once live, but now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these. It's anger, rage, malice. So first he talked about sexual sin, lust, things of the mind. Now he's going to talk about things you say or the way you act.

Slander, filthy language from your lips. Do not lie to each other since you have taken off your old self with its practices and put on the new self, which is being renewed. So, I mean, pretty much runs the gamut of what you see, I guess, in people's lives. And I think the background of this was people had come. in there who were not focused on Jesus, they were rule-oriented, they were worshiping things other than Jesus. And they had all these rules, but it wasn't like the last verse of chapter 2, it wasn't helping in restraining sensual indulgence. So he's saying, okay, you got this rule

system. People are coming in with fine, sound and arguments. But, your life is filled with all these things. And then I think some of the people were responding, like in verse 8, anger, rage, malice, slander, filthy language from your lips. These are all like responses to circumstances. Right. Yeah. So that's kind of the way it works. You know, the evil world is happy when you got a lot of sin going on, then a lot of arguing about it. And then rage and bitterness and anger and innocent people are caught up. in it. Right.

I mean, not all problems are based on your own sin. Some of it is somebody else's sin. Right. And how you respond to. Well, you think about the, to mention the context again,

that you got these guys that are trying to impose all these rules from regulations, but, you know, when I look, then they come, then he comes back here with a bunch of do's and don't do's. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And I think it would be a, we would be misinterpreting this to look at this as more rules. There's this interesting phrase here in verse 6 when he says, first of all, get rid of all these things. Like consider the members of your earthly bodies as dead to immorality,

impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry. For it is because of these things. What things? Well, impurity, passion, evil desire, greed, idolatry. It's because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience.

So I always, you know, hear that word wrath, and I've viewed it as God, like, has this barrel of wrath, and he's scooping it out, and he's mad, so he's pouring it on you. But if you read the language of Romans chapter one, the wrath of God is really God just removing his presence from you. It's just God just giving you over to your own self. And I think the point here is, I think this is a lot about, like, spiritual disciplines and spiritual, um, formation that he's saying, if you, you got to get rid of these, these evil things in your life, not to earn favor with God, because you're not going to earn favor with him by what you do. The reason why we get rid of these things is because it helps us to allow ourselves to dwell in the presence of God.

When we focus in on what we want, we, well, we don't know what we want, actually. So we're chasing things that aren't him. That's why he says that impurity, passion, evil desire, anger. read, what does it all amount to? It amounts to idolatry. What is idolatry? It's anything other than Christ as the head of the whole thing. Going back to Colossians 2, what was his point?

They've taken Christ and removed him as the head and started to worship the things of God with the rules and regulations. And that's why it never can lead to righteousness because it's a rule-based system. Right. You know, it makes sense. Zach has brought brought it up on what I was telling you all earlier. Here's what everyone needs to understand. And here's where we stumble greatly as human beings. When the law was given, Exodus 20, he scared the daylight out of them, just 16.

Exodus 20 verse about 16. Everyone in the camp, when the law, the law, the 10, the 10, the 10. commandments were given, and everyone in the camp trembled. The Lord descended on it in the mountain in fire. The smoke billed up like smoke from a furnace. The whole mountains were shaking violently. All he's doing is he's fixing to give them a code to live by. My point is, this was 2,000 years before he was.

Jesus right at it. So 4,000 years ago, God had him write down 10 laws. You should have no other gods before me. Don't buy down to idols. Don't misuse the name of God. Work six days and rest one. Check this out. Honor your father and mother. That's what the law said. We already have these laws. We have these laws. We've been having them for 4,000 years. Don't murder. So every time there's a shooting or whatever, somebody, a bunch of murder takes place, the politicians all run and say, we need to make some more laws. We need to have more laws, more laws, more laws. We need to fix this. We need to get all these statutes down. This has been here for 4,000 years. Don't murder. Honor your father and mother.

Because if they did, there wouldn't be all this murderous generation that has been with us. When this was written, and for the last 4,000 years, it's the same sins over and over and over. We've got the law. We don't need politicians making more. Well, I tell you what, if they're hacking people with hatchets, get rid of the hatchets. If they do it, if they're shooting them, get rid of the gun. They keep doing it. The Ten Commandments covered.

Don't murder. It's sinful. It's of the evil one. Don't commit adultery. Well, there goes 60% of us. We look at that. Well, there's divorces. And then there's the breakup of the family.

Then dad, he's gone. Our mom, she's gone. Or both of them are gone. We're down to grandparents. Like the shooter out in Texas, you say, what in the world? Don't commit adultery. When you marry someone, stick with them. Hang on, Dan.

Let's take a break. Go ahead. Then he says, don't commit adultery. Yeah, that would solve a lot of problems. Well, that's been there 4,000 years, but we haven't obeyed it. The world has not obeyed it. Therefore, all is the end. You shall not give false testimony.

Don't go around lying. You're like, yeah, I mean, that'd be a good law. Well, what are we going to do? We said, we're going to and fix that one because somebody would, We found lying, so we'll add another law that says they can't do that because that's lying. You got the Ten Commandments have been there 4,000 years. Why wouldn't this do for you? Don't misuse the name of God.

Don't be full of hatred. Don't misname the God. Work six days, rest one. Makes sense to me. Honor your father and mother. Yeah, that would be, you'd be a lot of better person if you did. You wouldn't go out and start shooting people. Don't murder.

Don't steal. Don't lie. And don't covet. The law has been there four thousand years. The law is not really the problem here. We're the problem. So when you finally, here comes Jesus saying, I'll get you out from under that code,

but you are still need to understand that code was written for a purpose. It's a great code. And if everybody lived by the Ten Commandments, if everybody lived by that, it would be a wonderful place on Planned, planet earth. Making more laws is not going to solve the problem. This is enough to cover it.

That's my little rant on looking at it. Still, don't murder people is a great thing for you not to do, even when you follow Jesus. To go out stealing, don't do that. Don't lie. Don't bow down to idols. Don't shoot your neighbor. I mean, the laws have been there.

Making new ones will do no good. You think more laws would help? I know what you're saying. So what you're saying is we need more laws. Let me tell you what Dallas Willard. This is what Dallas Willard wrote in referencing T.S. Eliot. He says T.S. Eliot once described, this is, by the way, in the book Renovation of the Heart, T.S. Eliot once described the current human endeavor as that of finding a system of order so perfect

that we will not have to be good. But the way of Jesus, he said, Dallas says this, tells us, by contrast, that any number of systems, not all to be sure, will work well if we are genuinely good. And we are then free to seek the better and best. The impotence of systems or laws, you could say, is a main reason why Jesus did not send his students out to start governments or even churches, as we know them today, which will always strongly convey some elements of human systems. They were instead to establish. What we need is love, we need more love and less law.

and you say if we had if we loved God we would obey him and fulfill these texts and if we loved each other we need to love each other knowing that no one has ever kept the law perfectly except the one who wrote it and he's the one that said love me and love your neighbor and everything will be all right and that is true if everyone in fact did love God and love their neighbor all of this crap you're seeing in our culture would disappear. It's not rocket science. No, it's not. But to Dallas's point, he says that the church is to be the beachhead, like the people of the church, or to be the beachheads of his person, his word, and his power. In the midst of failing and a feudal humanity, they were to bring the presence of the kingdom and its king into every corner of human life simply by fully living in the kingdom with him. That's why I think this idea of being in God's presence. Like if wrath is being kicked out of God's presence,

then heaven would be to be in his presence. And I think that's our role as the church. And I think to jump on this bandwagon of more systems, more laws, more rules, you can, you just can't, you can't legislate it to that point. I mean, these things are already illegal. They've been trying to do it for 4,000 years, and they still don't live.

love God and love their neighbor. It's right there in front of them hiding in plain sight. Well, they're not legislating love, and especially out in the real world on a daily basis, no matter what the law said. You're still not, people have decisions when it comes to relationships. I mean, he's going to get in the back end of chapter three, talking about where it starts in the home. He's like, wives, submit to your husband's husband, love your wife, children obey your parents, fathers don't embitter. And then he kind of gets into the social classes of people and what you do is your work and your job.

That's why he eventually says, whatever you do, work at it with all your heart as working for the Lord, not for men. But what I wanted to say is this passage that we just read eerily mirrors Ephesians 5, which to y'all's point starts off saying, be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children, which there's the ultimate relationship.

When you have that relationship with God as sons and daughters to our father, it trickles into all our relationships as brothers and sisters and husbands and wives and children. Because that's where it really starts. When you see these shootings, like you mentioned, Phil, it's a breakdown of the home. And the system is trying to fix people like, well, fix that. I don't fix that. Nobody's telling this guy no. There's no accountability.

There's no community. So when you let the internet be your father, well, how do you think that's going to work to the immature? Our salt water. We're watching other people do it. Or watching other people commit. Practically feels what I'm saying. People are going to educate themselves in some way. And so if you lose touch with people who have your well-being at heart,

and you're just trying to find some kind of direction and meaning and purpose in life in an immature way through the internet as a young person, it's just not going to work. You're going to be, it's going to be a disturbing existence because you're picking out things that people are taking advantage of through the internet on the immature. I mean, it's just the way it is. There's predators.

There's a lot of predators roaming there. But I wanted to read this. I don't know before you read that. Let's take a break. But it says, and live a life of love to your point, Phil, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God, which is the whole motto of the book of Colossians. I mean, he's saying, this is not a place, this is not a system, it's a person.

And he embodies all forms of the deity, and you have access to that. And the mystery of Godliness is that this awesome Jesus Christ, those 12 things he listed in Colossians 1, 15, and 5. following is living in you. And so we participated in it. And just like Colossians 3, what we read five and following, in verse 3 of Ephesians 3, it says, but among you there must not be even a hint of sex limerality or of any kind of impurity or agree. These are improper for God's holy people. There shouldn't be obscenity, foolish talk, course joking, which is all the responses to the circumstances, just like Colossians 3. For this, you can be sure of our.

Verse 5, Ephesion 5, 5, 5, no immoral, impure, or greedy person. Such a man is an idolatier, same as Colossians. He uses the same cycle. Has any inheritance in the kingdom of God? Let no one deceive you with empty words, just like Colossians. The fine sounding arguments are hollow and deceptive philosophy. For because of such things, God's wrath comes on them. When God's presence is removed, you're basically like a fish.

I thought about this when I was fishing. It's like a, when you are not in Christ, it's like a fish not being in water. What are they doing? They're flopping on the beach. Trying to get back to the water. Yeah, that's what your life is outside of Christ. You don't have your surroundings and your purpose on why you were created.

Then it says verse 7 of Ephesians 5, don't be partners with them. So if that's who you're running with, if you look around and you're like, well, I like this crew. We're a bunch of fish flopping on the bank. Well, it won't be long, and bad things are going to be happening. But I said all that just to make a point, the frustration I have, I think what was going on with the Colossians is the same thing on whoever put this together. I know the people who translated this Bible, you know, had good intentions at heart.

But he just said, and I've made this point before, but now we're here, he just said that God made you alive with Christ. Your participation, we spent two podcasts talking about baptism, and he forgave us all our sins, and he canceled the written code to Phil's point. We don't need more laws. We got them. Because it's the way there,

because it's motivated the law of Moses, the commandments that were given on that mountain, all of it was motivated by fear. When the grace of God came, everybody's motivation is by love. So when the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance and said to Moses, speak to us yourself. We'll listen, but don't have God speak to us or we will die.

Moses said to the people, don't be afraid. God has come to test you so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning. That code, although a great code, Jesus said, I'm going to motivate you by love instead of fear. And that's how it works. I mean, because you're motivated by fear, let's face it, look at the world for the last 4,000 years. you just can't scare people enough to do it, Al. You got the law. Love is the answer.

So I agree. But the person who or the people who translated this Bible, they put these headings, which is not inspired. And on Colossians 2 verse 6, they sum up this category with, I'm going to read what they say, freedom from human regulations through life with Christ. So I think that's good. All right. And so then you read chapter two. But look at my heading for chapter three, verse one.

You notice I marked out the first two words. Rules for holy living. Yeah. Well, here's the heading. Look for Colossians 3, 18 through chapter four, verse one. Rules for Christian households. Yeah, that's interesting. What I'm saying, though, is we tend to say, well, look at society, what's wrong with the world.

These are church people. These are God-loving people who are missing the very point that they just translated. That's right. With the little heading title. I'm telling you, you go to your wife and start tomorrow and say, look, the reason that you need to submit to me, because it's a rule. Follow the rule. Say that every day, and let me know how that works out. Well, I think another motivation, you know, at a Phil's point, he said the motivation,

has been fear. I think the other motivation, and maybe it's related, but it's the idea that T.S. Elio mentioned that we're trying to come up with a perfect system so we don't have to be good. So I don't want to give my heart. So I want to keep my own autonomy.

I want to keep my own. I want to keep me. But just tell me the line that I can get to. Because I remember when I was in high school, and we would ask our youth minister this question. And he would have like a box and you put your question in a box. And these are the questions that always came up over and over again. One of them was, it was, is getting drunk or is drinking a sin?

And it's not. But is, okay, well, how many can I have before it's sinful? What's the number? What's the limit? Or with your girlfriend, how far is too far? In other words, when is it cross over? Yeah, just gave me the, I want to go to the limit of where. it didn't, but once I, I want to go right to the edge of where it's, it's not sinful,

and then I won't cross. But to view it that way, you've missed the entire thing because what Jesus came to do was not just to save you from your sin and save you from yourself. He came to renovate, to borrow from Dallas, to renovate the heart, he came to give us a new desire. You know, that's why John Piper's ministry desiring God is so big. I mean, it's like, it's addressing the heart. And that's the thing that I think that this passage in Colossians is getting to is that as long as you're focusing on the external things and you're not allowing the Holy Spirit to transform your heart, then you're basically indulging in an idolatry.

Which is the point of the sermon on the Mount is the point of what I just read. Look, I remember as a teenager, the first time I read Ephesians 5.3, I went, uh-oh, because it said, among you, there can't even be a hint of sexual. memorality. I thought, well, I'm out on that. I mean, a hint. I mean, I remember a example. Aim for perfection. Aim for perfection. Well, I know. Yeah, but from a legal to achieve. But to Zach's point, it is about the heart. His point was it to try to make you feel like depressed because, oh, there's no way out. It's like, don't try to manipulate this situation. That's way brought up it's idolatry. You don't try to rationalize what you know to be right to try to work it out on your own from a system level. It's never going to work out for you. It's never going to work.

You're missing the whole point. You fall in love with Christ and you're like, you know what? It's not about these, oh, did I cross this line? You need to look at this girl as a daughter of the Almighty and either try to share Jesus or, I mean, it's a totally different perspective. One you get that perspective, you're not thinking about, oh, where's the line? Because trust me, if you're looking for that line, you're going to cross it. It's like, you're going to determine it for yourself. Well, the physical takes over. It's like somebody saying, oh, well, you know, I can get right down to the nitty-gritty,

if you know what I mean. And then I'm going to pull back and say, no, I'm not going to do this. Once that happens, biology overtakes theology. Let's take the last break. Go ahead. That's a good. I remember when I was in college, we went, Jace, you had a men's group. And we had just, me and all our, my friends had just become Christians.

And we were trying to walk the straight and narrow. And you did a lesson out of Ephesians about let there not even be a hint of sexual immorality among you. And you asked the question, what does that, what does a hint look like? And we were all like, I lust. And you're like, that's way more than a hint, son. That's cool. We were trying to. But to the point we're making,

like, we had, I had established the line, all my friends, and we were right out of the world. So for us, like that, our line was, you know,

we could, we could lust and that's a hint, you know, and you're like, no, that's full blown. And, but,

you know, it's, that's the problem when you are trying to establish, okay, what's the limit? Because your limit is going to be based on what you determined to be good, which is going to be based on your,

yourself. Which is creating the law back to Phil's point. You're creating your own rule system. These people come into the church and they were creating an amendment to what God's grace is. They're like, here's what we're doing. But it wasn't, because when you focus on Jesus, I mean, I'll give you one example, hopefully because we don't have time to talk about it today. But when you look at Jesus's life and what he did, I mean, you think about that conversation he had with the Samaritan. woman who, I mean, her life was, have been a complete train wreck. And then when he brought up the fact about worship, I mean, she started saying, well, you know, we're going to, she was given some theology here, you know, and it was just like the Colossians. Her theology wasn't,

wasn't causing her to restrain from bad decision after bad decision after bad decision. And so, You know, Jesus is like, you won't worship on a place. It won't be a physical place. You'll worship in spirit and truth, which gets back to the heart, what's going on. And it'll be a person. That's why when her response, she's like, she wasn't going around and saying, hey, come to this building or let me tell you what happened. She's like, come see a man who told me everything.

There's a person who embodies truth and spirit. And so then, but when you get to the final part of that story, I was just trying to get to this one point. Jesus says something strange about, because they were talking about finding something to eat, and, you know, a physical thing. And he said, my food is to do the will of him who has sent me and finish his work. So when we're in Colossians and you think, yeah, I've got to put off these things and then put on the new cell. Well, Jesus said, that's my food, is doing these good things that Phil is referencing, doing good. That is the food that fuels us.

Well, that's the strangest thought. How do you even make up a thought like that? Your food, what sustained you is out there representing the Father? That's what Jesus was saying. That's why. When you're out there. That's why Jay's love never fails. Well, that's right.

Yeah. That's why to put it in the sexual context. when because i do realize how difficult it is to wait to you're married i mean which is something that god's power allowed my wife and i to do and i share that and remember when we were attacked phil that time that was one of the questions they asked me they were like do you do you honestly expect people to believe that you waited to you got married yep before you had sex for the first time he didn't even believe it i was like i don't care if you believe it or not that's what happens. But he didn't understand why

I was out there sharing that. It's because a lot of young people out there, they need that kind of encouragement that, yeah, it can be done. But to do it, you're going to have to look at it not from a legal standpoint, because this is the way I did it. I realize what Jesus was saying here. The best way to keep yourself pure

is to have a spiritual conversation at the first of the day about Jesus and about what your purpose is in life. It's like it totally turned around. I mean, one girl I gave the speech to, which was basically, I'm going to love Jesus more than you. I want to find someone to help me get to heaven. So I go out with this girl. And she's like, she didn't really say, oh, that's the greatest thing ever heard. But she's like, okay.

Well, as the relationship continued, she came to the Lord. Well, then she wanted to keep dating, but I didn't want to date her. But I was like, look, you're a sister. I'm your brother. but it's not going to work out. I mean, you know, I hate it for you. I mean, I'm out, but you're in. It's not you.

It's me. Yeah. So I had the, it got a little bumpy, you know, but what I'm saying is it kept me from doing something wrong because that we, you know, she came to the Lord. It was awesome. So I was like, well, I'll start a date in ministry. Well, that didn't work. But still, when I met my wife and, conversion. And went through the story of Jesus with her for the first time.

That was the foundation that that was built on. So it didn't become a legal thing. We weren't setting parameters based on what we thought we could human, humanly accomplish. We just decided to build it on Jesus. Now, toward the end, we were setting some parameters because there's nothing wrong with parameters. And it ended up just saying, I'll see you at the altar. that was it

so for the last three months it was just we talked on the phone because then it was inevitable that we were going to be married and the temptation was real the struggle was real but you know we had a street we didn't want to mess up at that point but the new self was the motivation which is that you can't so what we see dad to circle back as we wrap up

is what you see unfettered sinful life no God, no put to death anything, it's very shocking and ugly. I mean, when it runs itself out, as a acumission, or whenever God says, okay, I'm just stepping back and you be you. And when we see that happen, we see unspeakable, literally unspeakable evil acts happen on a daily basis. And the more you see of that, the more you know that that's the evil one. So you're right. We don't look at it from a standpoint like other people, like somehow we can just figure this out with some new program or plan and all of a sudden we're all going to be great. This is a spiritual warfare.

And it's not. All they keep saying is more laws, more laws, which will not work. My point is, Phil, even if there were more laws, if you spend the rest of your life trying not to do wrong, if you think that's the epitome of Christianity, you're going to be miserable. Number one, you're not going to pull it off. Well, you've missed it. I mean, you've missed the whole thing. I think that's the point of Colossians that if you think it's about not doing the, or just putting off, though, it's, yeah, you've missed the whole thing. And that's not a, I mean, that doesn't sound like salvation to me.

That sounds like bondage, you know, and that is not what Christ came to do. He came to liberate people. And I think that's, if your walk with Christ is not liberating, then you're, then I was questioned your walk with Christ. And, you know, one of the things that you said, Jason, I think would be good for our audience. because we get a lot, a lot, a lot of questions that revolve around this. I'm stuck in some kind of you fill in the blank on the sin, and I can't get out of it. What do I do?

And I think the answer is what Jace mentioned earlier, you're not going to get out of sin by just trying not to do it. You're going to have to fall in love with the person of Jesus. You're going to have to start to walk with Jesus. You're going to have to do the things that are here in Colossus. You don't do them to be saved. you do them because there's a better way. It's put to death and brain to lie. We're out of time, but in overtime, we'll explore that.

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