Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 492 | Jase Gets Fired from Teaching Biology & How Not to Fall Through a Grocery Store Ceiling

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

Jase recalls a time when he was teaching biology to high school students and quickly found himself facing the rulers, authorities, and powers that be. Al tells a hilarious story about the only job he has ever been fired from and how gravity taught him a hard lesson about work ethic. Jase and Al encourage parents to keep their Christian children in public schools because they are the salt and light of the world. Phil remembers the smoking circles and schoolyard fights that coaches would sanction for young men to get over their quarrels, and Jase remembers working for his younger brother, Willie, and how you have to remember that we work for the Lord and not for mankind.  Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Dad, we're back. We're back home. Did you have any other interesting things happen this week in your summer and feel when you were home alone? Home alone. Your mother said, did you take a bath while I was home? And I said, no, I never got around to it. He said, I smell B-O. I said, yeah, I need to get a bath, I guess. So, Mom, is your bath reminder as well? I get a bath this week, no.

Well, why would you bathe? Nobody's there. It's just you and the dogs, right? Be and the dogs. If it's just you and the dogs, you'll end up smother like a dog. I think now I know why dad likes to be alone And for all of us to leave He can just be himself sitting around

I go dark In other words I look at all this electricity They keep him lights and women Just one end of the other I go around I turn out First thing I did

They all left and said we're going to vacation I just went around and turned out all the lights So I'm basically just sitting there I didn't watch Fox News for about a year and a bad disturbing and sad all at the same time

no bazz and just I was actually home alone last just armed and I'm sitting in the dark and I've got my Bible with me here so I've got my weapons you had your spiritual weapons your physical weapon yep yeah I was watching that so I'm watching the LSU game last night

LSU baseball an amazing double comeback. I mean, this is... I'm not sure when this will be released. Yeah, this we're kind of recording in crazy times here, so. But, so they, they won, they beat

Kennesaw State, somebody I had never heard of, who had a pretty good team, by the way. And it's not, nothing that's really happened officially, but so they won, they were down 11 to 4 in

the 8. Any, yeah. Final score, 1411. So then the next night, which was last night, because I came home from the beach, but Missy, we got one graduated, which was Karina. We had a little party at the beach, which was really... It turned out really nice, didn't it?

There was a lot of graduations going on. Well, we had six. Yeah, we had six graduates at their party. Yeah, that we celebrated on the beach. Somebody gave me an update on the graduation ceremonies. They said, everybody graduated down in there. He said if you were, Missy. Your daughter, I mean, she excels the Latino girl.

Yeah, Nicaragua. Same thing. Nicaragua? Yeah. But she's a brain, didn't she? Yeah, she's going to be working in D.C., I understand. I take no credit for that. I mean, we were just a small part.

The Lord and her had an arrangement years ago, and she's very inspirational. Yeah, how long has she been there with you? She's been with us about six years. Oh, was it that long? Ooh, I think of a couple years. Time flies. So anyway, I'm watching the game because Missy is now, Mia has, what do you call it when you, orientation at her college,

where she's going. So she got a scholarship, so we're excited. Oh, that's, where is she going to go? She's in Nashville. And so I'm there, and we had already won that game before, and I thought, yeah, they're going to be down. And so, and we were playing Southern Miss. These hosts and the regional, they've got a really good team.

Yeah. They're good. They're pitching staff look like a major league baseball team. So I was like, I mean, every time they, this guy, they had starting, I mean, it was just ridiculous. It had like 11 strikeouts. So we're down 6 to 2. They bring in some guy throwing 98, you know,

well, then they're like, well, now here comes the closer. I'm like, oh, that guy wasn't the closer? It's just getting worse. So it gets to be two outs, and you're like, yep, you know, but I was. Look, it's two outs, nobody own. Yeah, two outs. And I'm thinking, okay, well, I feel good about next year because I was thinking about who we had coming back.

Because the night before, I thought, look, we could come back and win this, and we did. But I'm like, all right, this is 62. This team's rested. They got good pitchings out there, 11th ranked in the nation. We ain't coming back. So, oh, Cruz let it off. He had a home run. Then the next guy, who was batting?

Pearson. Wasn't it? I think he was batting in the three home. Oh, Barry. I think Barry got out. So I think it's one out. So now they're down three. Well, it was six three.

But anyway, Pearson, who's from our hometown? Yeah, he's from Westminster. It's a really good player. He gets a hit. Well, then the next guy that, uh, K. Doty, he's down to his last strike and barely ticked a couple balls. There's two outs. And he throws him outside fastball. Gone.

Home runs. And now that's six to five. But you're like, but still there's two out. Right, two outs. You're that close. So then the next guy, the first baseman, he phantomly gets hit by a pitch. It was kind of like, he threw the pitch, oh, my arm, you know. So he goes down to first.

They review it, can't tell. So now he's on first. They put a pinch runner in for him because he's got a knee problem. The pinch runner on a ball in the dirt take old Bianco, he gets. Second, well, now he's in scoring position. Well, the shortstop, he's up. Face hit up the middle, tie gate. Well, at that moment, I woke the neighborhood.

But I was, to y'all's point. I thought I heard a loud cheer. I'm looking around for somebody to tell. And I got two dogs looking at me just with fear in their faith, because I'm hollering, I'm telling you, don't ever. They're looking toward the door. This is why you don't. quit you don't give up i was i was literally what's the coach is saying there's no clock in baseball

that's what but i was ranting and raving to no one and i thought it kind of hit me in that moment i thought there's no one here why i'm acting like this because i was just going back and forth saying i'm telling you when you get out and you don't quit it is it's not over you were just telling yourself so then i broke my four-year you know silence i did before and i don't for another LSU game i was like i gotta i gotta have some i was wanting someone so i just i went to a twitter and put what did i put i put something like this team doesn't give up you know and i love it or whatever so i which you broke the rule you never do that before the game is over but still you were just you just had to tell you had to tell somebody about what i did it before the game was over because

there still we hadn't won you just you just had to tell you had to tell somebody about photo yeah i did it for the game was over because there still we hadn't won yet but I didn't care at that point because I thought if you're down six too even if you lose this game but I didn't put all that I just said this is why you don't give up this this team doesn't give up so then the we bring in our closure three up three down and so then in the bottom of the I guess the 10th we just got first guy got on then a wall but it turned out bases loaded they brought everybody in one of the and they got the first out ground ball ball and Well, the plant to plate, but the second one was the guy from West Monroe, our hometown. Yeah.

Hit a high chopper. I mean a high chopper. And by the time he caught it, they're at home. He's safe. I'll go ahead. And then they just mayhem ensued. It was awesome. Well, and let me just say for the sake of not knowing this is going to air, this whole thing will be over by the time this probably comes out and we may have lose.

I mean, out. But still, our team is not, look, it's not that great. Most time. It's poor defense and not great pitching. You know what they say when people say about football, they're like, defense wins championships. In baseball, they say pitching in defense. Well, that's our two weakest categories.

We can hit. Yeah, we're just not, we're one of the worst defensive teams. Our pitching, look, I love those guys. I mean, I'll follow them. But, you know, we're, like that, that, team last night way better they're way better pitchers the the radar gun doesn't lie yeah and they have way better control now haven't said that i just watched two games that you would you would never think in your wildest dreams that we were fixed to win that second game well the

star of that game i didn't watch the game but the star of that game had to be whoever shut them down because they were up six two earlier so somebody up five to two somebody must have really pitched great the last three of a minute. Well, they just kind of patched it up. Yeah. You know, I mean, it was five to two. Then we gave up a run, you know, in the, I think the eighth made it six, too. So you're like, well.

I was actually watching the Tennessee game. And by the way, I've gotten some texts and tweets from Tennessee fans. I mean, their team is awesome this year. I mean, they're unbelievably good. Something has happened in the college baseball where they're real, they're more celebratory than I've ever seen. Like LSU, they had a boom box every time they scored a run. Tennessee has they put a coat over there.

A fur coat. And I was like, whatever happened to, you know, Phil's O' line that he got from the famous coach that said, you need to act like you've been here before. But I do think that's a sign that we're getting old, I guess. I guess it's fun. I mean, baseball can be boring. And so I think somebody said,

let's do something to liven it up. It's okay. That kid, one of that, I guess he's a right fielder for Tennessee, he had a go-ahead home run fairly late last night. And, man, I've seen, there's been bat flips before. They were impressive, but that kid has a bat flip. I think people like us like it, because when we used to play, you know, inner league fast-pitched softball, that's what we were doing.

I hit a home run Oh, it's a bat flip And knowing the next guy Just get drilled But it's a softball We're playing softball The league was still playing Back in the 60s, 50s and 60s

Because if you ever showed a guy He was going to bean the next guy I always wondered what 50-year-olds do I guess y'all have got a pretty good avenue At least it's clean and decent That's what I'm said Well I mean look at it from a spiritual lens Because, I mean, we're in Colossians 3 and 4, but Colossius 3 is famous, where it's like,

set your mind on things above where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. I mean, you can see that in that situation, these qualities that the world and worldly activities, that are good, clean, fun, I mean, baseball is a good, clean, fun game. You see them borrowed and stuff like that, where you don't quit, you persevere. you, it doesn't matter what for, they're inspirational just saying that, that everybody counts, a team sport, even you, you compare it to the church where, you know, they say the next man up or they have all these sayings, but you see a lot of that, they get it from the idea, I think, of spiritual things, because that's really what it's about.

I mean, they train all year. You say, yeah, the best athletes are going to win. Not necessarily. I mean, we got some stud hitters, but just as far as pitching the defense, I mean, what are we doing? Well, you know, people, baseball, I feel like it's a bad rap because a lot of people don't like baseball because they, you know, compare it to football or whatever. It's slower paced, but it builds. But I personally like that. I mean, I like the fact that every game is like an artwork, and you don't know exactly how it's going to go.

It's better if you're watching it with somebody, though, because it can be. slow and drawn it is but i i find that i do other things during that or flip around which you know but it's a it's a good sport i'm not even sure why i was telling that but because it just happened yeah well i was by myself well i guess i was saying it because of that that was celebrations are better when you're with somebody yeah yeah yeah high-fiving yourself just doesn't quite i finally just thought this is y'all dogs aren't listening so then i started if i start howling they'll start howling. And I was like, well, that's what we're doing.

If we win this game, I said, we're howling. And so when we got the game winning hit, I just started howling and both my dogs were just, burr-h-h-h-ha-h-h-ha-h. It was the only way you could engage you. You should have filmed that. That would have been hilarious. Let's take our first break.

Well, that's funny. It was both of y'all were home alone. So I guess that's the deal. Dad didn't bathe. You were howling to the moment. moon. Yeah, we got issues. Which is, yeah, you do.

So we're wrapping up Colossians on the next two projects, right? Absolutely. How have you decided we're going to do that? Well, we're kind of at the end here. I thought last week we were a little disjointed because you and Zach and I were coming

from Gulf Shores. Dad was here. But we kind of talked about, toward the end, this idea about it shifts into a family, which we covered quite a bit on the last podcast. as we talked about husbands and wives and their relationship, and then we talked about children and parenthood and kind of he lays out this idea that the home is sort of your

structure to face everything outside. And which makes sense. And you think about it, you have to have some place of security, you know, as you kind of go forward in this world. And I think that's part of, as we discussed, some of our cultural issues is that there's been a grievous attack by the evil one to attack families and to attack parents against children, children against parents. I mean, any discord he can sow in these areas, that's what he does. And when that happens, you see things break down. And so, I mean, it's just, it's no guesswork.

It's just, it's evidence. And I don't know. these people that are pushing for non-nuclear families in America, the results are... What is that? Well, that you, you know, there's no patriarchart. You don't have a husband and a wife, and you don't, you know, you don't set up this, you know, they call it a archaic structure, and it's not just men and women. It can be this, that, and the other, and they come up...

People are reading the Bible and saying, let's just do the exact opposite. I think that's exactly what it is. And it's because they don't, since they don't know anything about God, you know, it's Romans one, they don't know him. And so they're like, well, why would we put ourselves in this, you know, they're seeing it from their perspective is some kind of bound structure that, you know, we all have to behave. But you're like, but if you go your route, we see the results.

It's not good. Well, you don't have an identity. You got to remember. It's just chaos. Under the law of Moses, I mean, it's kind of interesting to look. And you can read also about what love. does for you instead of breaking the law. We're not under law, but the fifth command, you know, children honor your father and mother. Well, when he gets the Colossians and when you've had your

sinful nature cut away and you're under grace, it still says, wives submit to your husband, the husband to their wife, children obey your parents in everything. For this pleases the Lord. Yeah. And that's the sixth command that says, children honor your father and mother. So when you read, when you're under grace, you're not under law, your sinful nature has been cut away. Those principles do not murder, do not lie, do not steal. keep your family structure intact.

It's the best way to live. It's the best way to live. You don't die if you make a mistake at it. And the law of Moses, I mean, it was strict on what you could and could not do. So you look at, though, the same principles. It's like the Apostle Paul said, the law is not the problem. Right. I mean, we're the problem.

And that's why I think. Roman 7, I read it a couple of times a week or two ago. But, you know, when you started using to, well, you just forget that. Well, you don't forget the law motions. It's the greatest code of conduct that ever was put out. It's like all these shootings, people wringing their hands, and you say, we already have a lot of laws that cover all that. You know, children, honor your father and mother, do not murder.

do not steal, do not lie. I mean, the laws are still there, Al. They're 4,000 years old. Yeah. But because of no one ever kept the law perfectly, Jesus comes along and cancels it, but it's not like those principles are not good principles. But you remember, Dad, you remember what the founder said.

They said, without religion, the people won't self-governed. That's right. And when you won't self-govern, there's no possible way the government can possibly govern all these people by law. And they were right. And that's what we're seeing now. They try to do more. I do think it's interesting, Dad, that you talked about on your father and mother. And then Paul in this in verse 21 or chapter three shows you how to make that happen.

Do not embitter your children or they will become discouraged. So it's as much as to be. You can overdo it. And I think that's been done. I mean, let's face it. A lot of things you can do. Yeah. I mean, not just overdoing what.

It's more of a lifestyle than rule-oriented. Right. Well, and look, I mean, I guess everybody looks to their own situation because that's all you know. But I've said this before, Dad. You were low on rules, but you were high on this one. In other words, you didn't get into every little thing and constantly on our back. You just said there's a few things you've got to get right. or there'll be discipline and there was.

But I personally, the way I was raised, I mean, I thought was you did it the right way. I'm not embittered. I wouldn't be sitting at this table, obviously, if I would have been embittered by your discipline. I gave y'all a little speech when we sat at the table in there one night. I was sometime with another. I just remember telling y'all sitting there around the table, you'll have, every once while you'll have a great teacher. you'll have teachers that are all right.

And then you'll have poor teachers. I said, here's the deal. You got to obey them all. I said, you can't say, well, she's not a good teacher, so I'm not going to pay any. I said, just obey her. And you get out of there and you get out of that class. Yeah, I remember when you said that,

and I was thinking, oh, I don't know if I agree with that. That's what I thought. I know, Jace was the one that got in a few battles with the teachers. It was funny, I was the most rebellious. in terms of lifestyle. Jace was in general. Yeah. And it's best instead of arguing,

some teacher would just say, yes, ma'am, and let it right. I was, they're going to win. We were teaching us that authority is going to be in your life. And you were right. And I think there's something to be said here that we can talk about in this section

because I was a real shy kid. Y'all remember that. Yep. One thing I couldn't be shy about is if I thought a teacher was being, nonsensical or just dead wrong. I'd raise my hand because I was under the delusion that we had the right to free speech back at an early age. No.

You can't ask. That's why I gave you my little speech about, don't ever get crossways with them because even if they're a poor teacher, I said, be your best route, it's just, yes, ma'am. There's no free speech in the classroom. No, I wasn't, because the fact that I was, portraying a contrary view, I mean, it didn't matter. She wasn't open.

She's like, I'm not answering that. Then they expel you one time, but about three days you had a fight with something. Suspended or something. Yeah, expel is a strong word. You were suspended. I was suspended a few times. Spend it. But if you get suspended enough, then they expel you.

That's what I. You know what? I wasn't like, you know, what? I forgot about this, that Jace was very, you were a rebellious student. But I wasn't like into drugs or drugs. I never did any of that. I said a while ago when I gave him the format, I'll just obey them and move out. Jay said, when he heard that, I don't know.

I don't know about all that. Yeah, well, he got into a little bind now. Well, I just, I would challenge the teachers or I would ask for clarification. They usually just said shut up. because I said to. That's what, if you don't put that down, you'll get it wrong.

Poor teachers. You have poor ones. Some. And I'm saying, I had a couple. I had a couple that, I had a biology teacher that was just, I thought, no, this is spiritual warfare.

Because she was just anti-God. And, I mean, I just thought it was ridiculous. And anybody that asked anything, there was no conversation, it was just, This was a public school.

She was mad at God. And it was trickling down to her students. Yeah. Because that was, she was teaching biology and we don't believe in God. These days, it's a lot worse than when you went. These days, it's rampant. No God. Now, look, having said that, I did some substitute teaching.

Did you know that all? I did not know that. I did. And so no matter what I did, no matter what the subject was, I shared, I would just share the gospel. Well, guess what? You got chastised for that. Now they would just be horrified. Oh, they were pretty horrified when I did it. When I lead a prayer, you know, at a public school, I had all those days.

Were you at Westminster? You at the Haskell? I actually, and look, here's what? funny. I didn't even graduate college. You didn't even go to, you went like to two classes. But I had that two-year degree from the seminary. Daddy couldn't pass health

and golf. Well, somebody asked me if I wanted to substitute something. You know, what I noticed about substitute teaching is once you're in, you're in. And then finally when they got... Well, yeah, because they're just looking for warm bodies. That's amazing. They finally got to looking at my credentials and found only a two-year degree from the seminary, they said,

well, no wonder he's sharing Jesus to the class. That's what his credentials are. So, but you know what? I didn't care. Now the powers that be would be, I don't know, about in Louisiana, the uptown up there in the schools. I don't know whether they're on this left-wing woke mess or what. I'm sure there's a few.

That was years ago, and they were on it then. I mean, because. It just, they were horrified that I would come in there and do that. But, you know, I know a lot of, I was showing in love a care and concern for young people. I mean, look, these public schools are so big and so crowded. And a lot of the teenagers are dazed and confused, trying to find their identity, which is why we have all this garbage out there already about, you don't even know. But I'm willing to, I'm willing to, let's take a break.

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I'm willing to bet, Dad, that across the board, if you went across America, no matter what the situation is, and we see the worst of it on the news. But most teachers are dedicated. They love students. They love their job. They're there for them.

I guarantee you most teachers are good people most. I agree. I those think it's a few. And look, it's a pretty unsung career because you don't make a ton of money and you're dealing with kids, you know, nine, ten months a year. Y'all are in North Louisiana where it's still vestiges of spirituality is here. so, you know, a Bible reader. So it's more prevalent here than it would be if you went to some other states.

Well, I've always encouraged, look, our kids went to a lot to Christian school. And you used to teach you to Christian school before you got into duck calls. But I always encourage Christians to be in public school because you're the line of defense as a believer with a lot of these kids. So, I mean, it's important that you're there. And look, you can't be as bold as Jace was without probably being kicked out. But you can still be subtle. I wanted to see what would happen. What are you going to tell me to you?

There's more backlash toward the powers that be, this, this, you know, current crowd. Right now, there's more backlash than I've seen. They're rising up across the country and saying, no. But the point is a substitute teacher, what I learned from that process, because I did it for two or three years there. They just are looking for a babysitter.

They don't want you to say anything. Right. Because you, obviously, you're not going to teach whatever they're supposed. Because you don't really even know. You're just showing up. There's nobody calling you. You're just an adult in the room. That's all they wanted.

So I'm like, why not try to give them some inspiration? Yeah, and y'all know me, I wasn't like badgering or manipulating. I was like, here's what I'm into. That's the way I started. Here's what I'm into if you want to join me. Yeah. And look, you've had a long record from when you were, whatever, 14, on the person who called you on the phone

you've been telling that story. Look, I did it without a Bible. I didn't like turn over to... Yeah. I just quoted it all from me. How did the students react? What was their... Listen, they laughed.

They, you know, I was... Because it was different. Usually they said somebody sitting up there reading the paper, but you were just like... I mean, I made fun of a few things that they learned in biology and... Yeah. You know, I have my little jokes.

I'm still doing it in my speeches today. Same one. like, y'all got a better idea? How'd the chicken get here? I'd ask that. I've been asking that since high school. They probably went home and told their parents and their parents were thrilled. They were like, well, finally somebody's... But then, you know, when it got to the rulers and authorities, they were not as happy. You were suspended yet again. But the times I were suspended was... I tried to look for loopholes in the system. mainly centered around absence, you know, missing days.

That's what I mainly got in trouble for. Yeah. Well, Dad's thing to us was, you know, it's a grind, boys. You know, you got to go. You got to get your education. But I don't care if whatever time they'll let you take, I don't care if you take every bit of it. And we always did.

See, picture days you'd all meet somewhere, but I noticed they wouldn't keep because who would miss their pictures. I noticed every year there was two or three that said photo not available. Yeah, it was a little person with a barrel around. I'm having the picture. I thought, I'm just going to not show up that day and see if it's counted as an absent. So, of course, I wasn't in the yearbook that year. I didn't care.

I got the trade-off for missing a day. Well, they didn't count it as an absent day. Really? No, so guess what? You never did another one. Never did another. You cannot find me in high school. I'm in no yearbook.

It's always a, it just says photo not available. You can find no record. You don't even exist in that. Because it was a free day that they didn't, for some reason, they got a glitch in the system. So I don't know, Jay's when you were, because you weren't too far behind me at West Monroe, but to show you how things were just not that long ago, I mean, I guess it has been a long time. But we had a, they called it the smoking ring. So when you were, everybody was outside and you had a, and you had a,

like a break. There was a smoking section for the students. As a teenager, you could smoke cigarettes. It was college. In the 60s, we had that, and they called it the cancer pit. Oh, that's pretty good. They got a fight coming between a couple of them going to fight down out. Where are we going to?

Where are they going to fight? They said, well, they got one of the coaches, and they'll be down there, our referee in it. But we got a couple of guys. They've been out of each other for the last month. meet them at the cancer pit. Go the cancer pit. And the coach would be the referee

to make sure they fought, you know, their fighting techniques, no, no clubs. Right. So they'd let them fight. And then shake hands. I don't think they'd fight.

Shake hands. And then the coach would say, okay, that's it. I don't think they'd sanctioned. I don't think they would anymore. But what's funny, Jay's, is it shows you how there's there's classes even within classes.

So we hung out in the smoking ring, but we were dippers and chewers. So we had our little section of, like the smokeless people were over there. The smokers were over there. We didn't like mix and match with each other, but we had our little section of the little dippers and chewers. Then you had the dope smokers by the time I got there.

Me, nobody said a word. Is that right? Unbelievable. I don't remember what going on when I was there, but I'm sure it was. Oh, it was going on. And I was always, I mean, you ingrained in us, Dad, do your work. I mean, so I, you know, I took that to heart.

And so, but I went to work for. But you're trying to find something you love to do. Yeah. That was my deal. I would do, I was like, oh, I like to fish. I got up there commercial fishing, and I thought, well, this is not as fun as I thought it. I mean, I love it, but. Yeah.

And I said, well, I like to cut firewood, because I like to. fires. Nope. You think, remember we had the crawfish farm. Oh, we were so excited. About a year later, we were like, what were you thinking? About three trips to the hospital with... It's just daylight. Blood poison.

So then I thought, I need to take a different perspective. Well, that's not the idea of work with all your, you know, for what you, because you're working for the Lord because look I remember gobbin had a job he he hated his job it was swing shift but he did it for 22 years I mean it was a grind but he had to make a living you know that's what he did so I had this job at grocery store and you know but we were kids you know we were I was 15 years old 16 so I was just barely old enough to even so you know you took instruction I tried to be a pretty good worker but then you're always

horsing around because everybody that I was working with was my age so you're all you know we'd do little we'd the bottom on the egg things that had all the eggs in it so the guy'd come in the next morning go to move a box of eggs and well they all fell out of the bottom and broke it's awful i'm telling you i was that who would do that a stupid teenager that doesn't have a good egg so this i was looking for a place to hide out you know on my break and so i went up on top of the ceiling like above i climbed up on top of the where the freezers and stuff are back in the meat section and I looked over there and I thought oh this is a good little place if I ever just want to get away for a few minutes you know they're trying to find me where I'm a well I didn't

realize that when you step out on a ceiling in a grocery store there's that's just a towel ceiling towel it won't hold to your weight and so I stepped out there while I went straight through the ceiling which was about probably a 20 foot drop right just sprawled out in the meat section. I landed right on the roast. Did you get fire? Oh, yeah. So the assistant manager who went to our church,

this is why it's so embarrassing, but I'm telling an embarrassing story of myself. He comes around the corner, his eyes are this big around. I'm sprawled out in the meat counter, and he looks up, and, of course, the ceiling tile is falling through. And so, like, first he was worried that I was hurt,

but I wasn't. It was just stupid. And so, you know, he kind of chastised me. He's assistant manager. This is right at closing. So the next day, when I came in for work, they said, Jim was the manager. He said, Jim needs to see you in his office. So we had to talk, and, oh, Al, just had to move on to something different.

But I learned that lesson that even at a young age, even though I was dumb, but I learned. It's the only time I've ever been fired from a job. But I needed to be fired. It's a dangerous thing, gal. It's gravity, right? I mean, I learned also a lesson about gravity and ceiling tiles. You don't want to step out there, Joe. So that was my lesson learned to be a good employee.

And I have to say, I learned it because I've worked hard the rest of my life and not tried to goof off at what I was doing. The bottom line to me is I just think, whatever you wind up doing, it should become your platform for Jesus. And I think that's, I get that from 323. Whatever you do, work out of it with all your heart is working for the Lord, not for man. That's why when we got on the duck calls, that was the perfect

transition into what we really are about. Right. It was Jesus. Yeah, I think that key phrase is whatever you do, do it with all your heart. I mean, whether somebody's washing you or not. I did the unthinkable. I humbled myself and became

a worker under the supervision of my younger brother for that cause. And it worked out pretty good for both of us. It has. It's a good relationship. as a worker and a person that's being paid by someone else, I'm going to do what I said I would do. I think as an employee, that's what, if you sign a contract, you're going to work for a amount of time, you put everything into it. And then if the contract's over and you hate it, go do something different.

Because we get a lot of questions from listeners like, my job is, these people are terrible. They're pushing all this agenda on me. You know, I hate it here. And what do I do? I mean, I get that asked several from my audience. It's like you said in this context, they would make. you know, arrangements at the next. But I do think it's important to say that in a Christian context because you need to be a person of your word.

If you said, I'm in for this amount of time, then you should finish your job. Don't just walk off. Yeah, unless there's extenuating circumstances. Right. You know, which happens. Yeah. I mean, it's like in the TV, Hollywood world, you know, these contracts are all fluid. When you use it once at

Yeah Well you learn that though It's because just things change And so I mean But for the most part You've All the spiritual qualities That take you through in the rest of your life

They take you through in that As far as character integrity And truth telling But you're doing it in the name of Jesus And if you have employees or whatever I mean I think it should be be a Christ-centered approach. Exactly.

And you shouldn't take advantage of people. You should treat them fairly. I mean, all the things. I mean, that's clear from this text as well, that four verse one. He says, look, you serve, you know, your boss is in heaven. And so that's who you serve. And so if you're going to do right by him, you're going to do right by people. I mean, you're not going to mistreat them.

You're not going to be all the things we talked about. Well, he acknowledged that he knows there's mistreatments in this when he said in 25, of anyone who does wrong will be repaid for us wrong. That's right. And there's no favoritism. I mean, there's going to be a lot of people who have dished out a lot of abuse to their employees and just in various authority situations that, I mean, the Lord will make right. I find confidence.

You recognize it all as spiritual warfare, which it is, we wrestle against the forces of evil and the heavily around. Be wise the life of the four of change. Chapter 4 in Coloss and verse 5, be wise in the way you act toward outsiders. They're not kingdom people. Make the most of ever opportunity, every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, season with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. That's a pretty good challenge as far as your work ethic is concerned. Right.

Take care of your business. You work hard. You do what's right. Because everybody's watching everybody else and seeing what this thing tends to, everybody's up to no good. It's just not healthy. Right. Well, and you can't remember. We've said all along, we talked a lot on this podcast about not keeping your religion or your Christianity or your belief system contained to a church building.

So where most of your time spent, it's in a job situation. Workplace. Workplace. And so that's what. where you're going to display the values of the past. You can't have a positive impact. You may catch a little flack from time to time. Don't hold against them.

Well, but you got to remember we've read this many times talking about, I mean, true religion is taking care of widows and orphans, that's in James I. First Timothy 5, 7 says you give the people these instructions. If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. I mean, there's a responsibility to provide.

I mean, look, I don't think there's anything more frustrating than to watch an able-bodied person. Not work. Yeah. Which we have a lot of, unfortunately. Well, we do. So we're talking about, you know, the idea of work. And it made me think, Jay, is that, you know,

Jesus taught a lot in his parables about the principles about the principle of workers and their relationship to their bosses. Well, and just getting along, you remember, because he did it, I mean, he talked about the family structure, and then he throws this working class situation. Because you think, where's all the strife in life? Well, it's in relationships, either the home or your work. Yep, that's right.

Because there's authority here, and people don't. like being told what to do or wrestling with authority but i think when you put it in the context of what he's saying ultimately we're submitted to christ he's been real clear in the book of colossians the focus is on jesus and we surrendered we we we gave up our rights and authority to jesus christ so now we find ourselves in these situations some people are the boss and some people are the workers but you're still surrendered to Christ. But that's for all the conflict. I mean, you told that story about when you was a,

I guess the lowest end employee at a grocery store. Right, the shipbag boy, you know. So our buddy, oh, Jimbo Lindsey, well, he started off as a bag. That's right, just like me. Except he didn't sneak around and fall through the ceiling. He actually did his job. Well, he had some integrity and some ambition. And 10 years later,

he's running a store. Yeah, he was the manager. Which is why I love this country where you can do that. But two, you get out of it, what you put into it. At some point, I mean, you know somebody had to say, hey, tell him, take that bag, you get fussed at, you get embarrassed, you get, because it's all part of that process. And nobody likes being told what to do.

But it's kind of part of the social working system that we have. But you can't change the rules all of a sudden and say, well, the minimum wage, that's why we have all this debate over the minimum wage and moving up, because they're like, why can't we just all make the same? And start out making what the boss would weigh. Well, because somebody is smarter, somebody worked harder, or somebody was more innovative. Diligent.

Yeah, that's kind of the American Free Enterprise at work here. That's right. Well, and he clarifies a lot of it. in Colossians 3 down there. In other words, I love the way he says this. He says, don't lie to each other since you've taken off your old self with its practices. You know, whether it's, no matter what it is. Showing favoritism, that's out.

And you put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its creator. Then he says, here, you say, here, where? What's he talking about? Once you become a member of the kingdom of God, you put your faith in Jesus. Your sinful nature has been cut away. And he's saying the things you ought to take away and the things you ought to add to it. Here, there's no such thing as Greek or Jew. So ethnicity has nothing to do with this.

It doesn't make any difference where you came from, where you're from. Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircised, whether you were under the law of Moses and all of it's, the Jewish people. Barbarian somebody just coming out of nowhere. And you say, boy, what a barbarian bunch that is. Skithian, and then you. Talked about what they were. Slave or free, but Christ is all and is in all. That's a good point.

Your status and all of these things that divide us, ethnicity and the wrongdoing on how you're treated people in the past. He said, once you reach here, here, the kingdom of God, there is no difference between anybody. I mean, you're all, we're all loved by God, we're members of the same family, so you ought to act like it. You can't start using these old things like any culture. Well, and you make a good point, that, and the story that I told about I was a terrible employee, but even worse, I was a terrible Christian. I obviously wasn't living out my faith. That's right.

So what happened was. That's what he says you need to get rid of. That's right. Because there were two girls, one of them was Susie Adams. She was Susie Sturgeon back then. That was a checker at the store, Sister in Christ, good girl. There was another one. I can't remember her name, but she was at the church.

My assistant manager was a member of our church. And here I was. They hired me because they thought I was a good kid and work hard, but I wasn't. And I embarrassed them as well. I just hear you're talking. It embarrasses me, Al. It wasn't embarrassed. Caving in the ceiling and falling into me.

I remember when that happened, I did like this. They told me about it, and I said, that was just one of many problems in that era of my line. But here's a small world for you, Jay's. You didn't know this. So I didn't know you're going to bring up Jimbo, Lindsay. Different grocery store, by the way. But guess who was, guess who worked in the meat department and was there the night I fell through in her meat department?

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