Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 500 | Phil Surprises Jase with a Compliment & Jase Gets Robbed by a Crow

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

Phil recalls touring in California during the 80s and 90s, and he can't believe all the news he hears coming out of that state. Jase tells a hilarious story about his battle with a crow over some golf-course snacks, and Phil surprises Jase with a compliment on a book Jase wrote almost a decade ago. Al laughs that Phil finally got around to reading it. Jase discusses the writing process between himself and his ghost writer: Jase writes, and the ghost writer says he loves it. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Get "Your Daily Phil: 100 Days of Truth and Freedom to Heal America's Soul" by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400235936 - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, it's a magnanimous day, Jays. In every day, yes. It's magnanimous. Because I'm back? Well, yes, that's, of course. You're back. No, that means that that was not the... What was that word you used? Magnanimous.

Magnanimous. I've never used that word. I've never used it. I've heard to other people. Well, I thought you were an English major. Let's break that. down that word. They might have missed magnanimous. You've got to expand the vocabulary. It's magnanimous, or huge, because

Jace is back, and I want you to tell the audience about where you've been, what you've been doing. But it is episode number 500. 500. 500 episodes today. Wasn't there a movie about that? 500. Oh, it was 500 days.

No, 300. That was the There was something. 500 days, but that was like a romantic comedy. But anyway, yes, the 500 episode of the Unashamed podcast. And I have to say, so we're not going to take any credit for that because we're just doing what we've been called to do. But I want to thank you, the Unashamed Nation, because if you didn't listen, if you don't tell people about it, we wouldn't be doing this anymore. So really it's because you guys keep recruiting people and more and more people keep downloading. The show is still growing.

And you know what this means. What does it mean? It means it's half of a thousand. Well, I know numbers are big to you. Jay's, I know you. Love. I will quote Carl Allison, who's a witness in the heavenly land. Yep, he's crossed over.

If numbers were not imported, God would not have written a book called numbers. So that is true. Which was a classic line for Carol. It shut me down and was a might drop moment in my life. I'm like, why are you obsessed with how many people and having the numbers? Boy, he was an attendant's hawk. What do you remember? It was a good point, though.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I, you know. That was pretty sharp. Well, congratulations. Well, I'm back. I mean, what was... I told the audience, we sent you away to find some stories to come back and regale us with. Well, I have a peculiar story. Okay, good. That's why we sent you away. I told Jason when he showed back up this morning, a lot of people leave. They send me a lot of books a whole lot. So some of them I read, some of my don't, some of them I just picked through them a little bit looking at it. But I read Jace's book. Oh yeah, that was the bomb shell of the morning, what Phil's fixed to say, because my mouth went open.

I said, I wonder what Jace had to say, good call. I thought, good call. So it kind of, he's got him a sequence of events from, from, I probably, Y'I would say, coming from his mother's womb. Yep. Your mother and my woman. That's right. So he worked that in. So for the listeners who are trying to keep up, Phil.

Did I show up at his birth? No, Jay's gives you the reason. Phil in the past week sat down and read my book seven years after I wrote it. That's correct. So did it happen to just be laying by your chair? I saw it there among others, you know, most of them. Had they been there seven years. I don't know if it's been seven years.

But I would say, I thought it was a great book. It is a great book. which I read it when it came out a few years ago, but it is a great book. I wanted to go back and read it. Very well done because it's not from a, like some kind of religious. No, it's unique to Jason. It was all there. It was all there. Now I got to give you.

You're an undefile religion. What's it is. Well, my favorite thing. We had just. Help widows and offers. I mean, he kept it simple. We had just started really churning. out the books when jesus came out i don't know exactly sure where it is in the line of books i know willies

was first the dad's was second size was third but we're selling a lot of books this is back in the day shows rolling and i remember you know the publishing process was just like i mean it was fire hose drinking out of a fire hose because they were trying to get these books out in six months which is unheard of in the pub but they're trying to you know take advantage of the show and so jac and all of a sudden they're like oh yeah the robbers they're so easy to work with wop wop wop well well well well well well well well I'll give you the back story. I think the statute of limitations have run out if there are any on this book. So what they do is they give you these at the time because our notoriety had exploded because of the show.

And so they came to me about a book and I was like, oh, yeah. And so we had a negotiation process that went really well for me. But part of what they got out of the negotiation process is you had to have a ghostwriter. Because I mean, who am I? I'm no writer. And I consented that. I was like, I'm never written a book. Most of our books have ghost writers.

To your point, I am really stubborn. And I thought if I put my name on it. So anyway, so this guy who is an ESPN sports writer, I think he's their senior writer, Mark Slebaum. Yeah, Slayball. He did one of mine. Well, they chose him. And she did two years. So, well, here's the funny part.

So what they do in normal book. processes, I guess, is they interview you. And they're like, what do you want to do the book on? Here's my thought. And I was like, well, I just want to kind of tell how I got to this point of writing the book. I just want to tell the story. Yeah, tell your story. And so, well, I think he said that.

And I said, no, I want to tell God's story in my life. I mean, I wanted to be about him. So he said, okay, well, I'll interview you. So he wrote the first chapter sent it to him. I got about halfway through the second paragraph, called him up, and I said, this is not. I actually called the publishing gun. And I was like, we need a new.

It was no reflex. It was not like it was bad. Because he's a great writer, yeah. Yeah, I was like, this has nothing to do with what I want to do. And they said, well, call him and tell him. So they already figured I was a problem, you know. So we tried different things. and finally I came up and nothing worked.

I said, look, let me just write it. And then I'll give it to you. We did it the exact opposite. The new pause. I said, I'll write the chapter. You clean it up. You clean it up. I said, you clean it up.

Well, here's what's funny. I wrote the first chapter. He sent it back. There was about four little grammar. I thought you were going to clean it up. He's like, I loved it. So Mark got the deal of it. the year. You're writing your own book and he's getting paid.

I said, this was the greatest ghost writing in your career. Now, there were a few, he moved some chapters around at the end and he helped in that, but for the most part, I wrote it, and a few things he said, I wouldn't tell that story. You know, it has nothing to do with anything. So there was a few moments like that. We actually worked good together, and he's a good dude. Yes. And look, his, his, his, his.

books, I'm not sure if he helped willing them on their first one either, but I know dad's size and yours, Jays, were all, you know, some of the best-selling books of all the books. And so he was right there with a part of him. He made him some good books, hey, he sent me a note not too long ago, because he saw Dad was cranking out some books again, and he was like, hey, if you ever need me? No, he was good. And he was what I needed once we figured out our roles. Right. Because, like, if I ever wrote another book, I would probably go through the normal process. Right. But on this, I'm like, well, this is my story. You can't, you're not going to know the, and I want Bible verses in the book.

I mean, because at first. But it didn't come across as dry theology as some of them do. No, I thought I loved it. I thought this book was excellent. And me knowing him, obviously, his whole life, like, it really spoke to his, right, to the way just looks at it. I had a couple of people because I, you know, I can't remember. And he did acknowledge in the book that I have, I'm the reason he got through. preaching school. So I was like, all right, he gave me. Wow, that's just an adult. He had that in there.

So that, I'm glad you shared that. I mean, I appreciate it. And so. Chase would say attending preaching school was a, was a bummer. It was a real. It was a, it went, it went past to grind. It was a, it was a low point of just, I really had to search deep down. What was your line, Jayce? Chase was a fish out of water. His line at one time was you have to be able to have the capability of looking at the instructor with your eyes open, but you're actually sound asleep. He said, you'd have to learn how to sleep with your eyes open. It's a skill that I developed in that time. And it was only certain instructors.

Most of them were. That's quite a skill, Jay. So where I was at, we were going to go away for the weekend. You know, we're all busy, but just with the doing the show and the podcast and my last events and scheduled event, it just got, I needed to. Yeah, I need a break. And, you know, we have a new baby and different things and Missy needed to break. Yeah, she did. So this situation come up, some of our best friends, probably my closest friend outside of physical family, he was a, he was turning 50.

And so his wife and my wife are a good friend. So we planned this elaborate surprise. I usually don't like surprises, but I thought this was a good one. The surprise was she would tell him that she has a trip, our friends, the wife would tell her husband that she wants to take him on a trip for his 50th birthday, not tell him where it is. But like give him the overall temperature so he knows what to pack. And then we were going to meet him in Dallas at the Dallas Airport because we were on the same flight.

So when he comes in, then you're there. I'm sitting there and I'm first class. I mean, because we wanted to be as soon as he walked in. We're sitting there. And so that, and like we film it. So the problem started when we go to the airport to go from Monroe to Dallas. Beautiful day, perfect weather. I actually checked the radar.

I parked the vehicle. We were running a little late, so I'm hustling to get in. And as soon as I walked in, Missy's standing out of the counter and she said, flights cancel. And I said, why? She said, they gave me no reason. So funny. So Mrs. Happy is what you just saying?

She was not happy, but she didn't, you know. So she's like, I said, well, what do you recommend? And she said, well, they said the connecting flight is at 10.20. So we were like doing the math. And I was like, I don't think we got enough time to get to Dallas. Drive there, right? Yeah. But I said, you know what?

what, let's head there anyway. And maybe we can get a later flight. It ruined the surprise part in our mind. So we take off to Dallas really on faith because we didn't have a official plan. So she's looking up flights. And so not only did they cancel the flight, they told her the wrong time, it was 1120. So then I was like, when she found that, we were in like rusting. So we had been gone 30 minutes.

And so I'm like, my foot went down on the gas pedal, just a hair. And I thought, I actually think we can make it. But the closer we got to Dallas, the traffic was starting to pick up. And it was like it was looking like there was no way because by the time we parked, we only just had a few minutes to get through the airport. But look, since we were in first class, we didn't have to stand in line, went to the front of the line, bam, bam. So almost, I mean, unbelievably, we make it five minutes for boarding.

So then we text our friends. Of course, they didn't even know all this was happening per se. And so they said, we all go ahead and get on the plane because they weren't at the gate. So we're in our seats. Here comes my buddy. I got up like, surprise. And he was like, hey, how are you doing? Good to see you.

I mean, big shot, nothing. No, what are you doing here? I mean, it was just where I saw the phones go down and they're like, Who wants to record that? The most underwhelming surprise ever. It was, it was. So later on, we figured out that, I mean, where there's a lot of people around, he's like,

I'm not going to act like an idiot. So he was just, he didn't want to. He just couldn't, you know, he's a man's man. He's just like, no, I'm not going to be like, wow, what are you doing? Because his opinion was other people do that, that are fans of the show. Oh, yeah. I'm never doing that.

He was thinking I didn't want to draw attention to the situation. So that was kind of funny. So anyway, we go to Pebble Beach, and I've been there once. I couldn't remember if you'd be in there once or twice. I knew you'd play. And look, the fact that I came back shows you how spectacular. Because I'm not a very good golfer, but if you want to play golf in any capacity, the holy grail of that would be to play at Pebble Beach.

That was what we were doing for his 50th birthday. It's a golf trip. Yeah, it's golf trip. We played a spyglass. Hang on, let's take a break. So here's the funny story. This comes under the heading of when you've run out of something to do. I knew that was coming.

You're not a celebration-oriented person. This is nightmares. No, where's what you got to remember? If you're... If you can't make the trip, let's just drive. We'll make it by five minutes. I mean, no. Well, we did.

Just too much. The static actually started on the way back, because now my truck is in Dallas. So when we got to the airport coming back before I tell you a couple of stories about the trip, so Missy goes up to the counter and says, okay, we want to cancel that last leg from Dallas to Monroe on the way back. And he said, no. She said, excuse me? He said, just don't get on the plane.

Of course, we figured out later that if you, you know, the counselor, they had to give our money back. It's over. And so I said, well, sir, your company caused an event, a series of unfortunate events that now my vehicle is in Dallas. I got to get that. So we're just going to get in that truck and drive the last leg. Because you canceled for no reason that you were willing to give. And it wasn't weather. Yeah.

And he said, can't do it. So I just stopped right there. You know, I mean, we, so we finally, here's what's funny about this. So we, when we get to Dallas, we go out and go get our vehicle. Well, we get a text from this airline company saying, if you'd like to give up your seats, we'll give you $350. Credit. A voucher, because we're overbooked. I'm like, we tried to cancel earlier.

Now you're wanting to pass. That's how stupid it is. I mean, it just makes no sense. I said, Missy, call and get that. I said, tell you. Tell them right now we want it. See, I'm just listening to your series. The film.

Here's what's funny. That's why I don't run in that world ever. Here's what's funny. If you get the voucher, we have to take your bags off the plane. And we can't get them because we've already left. So I'm like, now they're holding our bags as a ransom for that money. So anyway, we drove back. Then I had to go to the airport and get her bag.

And we got no voucher. So what I was going to tell you, though, is... Well, they get you at every turn. Phil, California is the perfect place if you want to get away into just obscurity. Because you think about it. People, they don't know how I am out there and don't care. And the people who do, they don't want to be seen with me. Because that takes them out of their secrecy that they're...

Well, because they're like, oh, is he with one of those... Yeah. So if you want to just disappear, you go to California. California. And so that's what I did. It was kind of nice. Last thing you're going to see me, California might disappear, but not me. So here's what I think was funny, Phil. So we go out, I mean, you have all these critters out there. And by weird contrast from a spiritual perspective, because this story's getting long, nobody wants to see the slides of the story. But Pelper Beach spectacular got all these animals.

And while there's mallard ducks. We saw a lot of mallards. I mean, I didn't know. they were saltwater friendly because it's right there. Camping out there in Texas, you wouldn't. Yeah. Ken had a nest. California. On number 18, which is the most. Yeah, iconic, beautiful.

Incredible looking. Jason, when we toured California back in the day and we made our how the West was one, all the duck hunting we did, we went from one end to California to the other. They were the most hospitable. This was when? Oh, Phil. What time frame was this? 80s.

80s? 90s? No, look. I was making a joke, but I mean, when you experiment, look, the people were super nice. The food was great. Now, look, you bring your wallet. I'm proud of it.

But it was, I mean, this would, it's very expensive. But I think everything in California is. Yeah, everything's tax to death. It's, you know. And look, you know what they got everywhere now? Goats. Because they're trying to prevent forest fires. So they have all this underbrush and then it dries out.

Well, now they just. They turn to go. Hundreds of goats everywhere. So I felt quite... Eating the brows. Eating the brows. And then there's all these other animals. I was like, well, you are catching out.

Yeah. Here's the problem with that. They need somebody like me to kind of control this. Because I'm going to tell you what happened to me. So I'm on like whole number four at Spireglass. And, you know, they have a little cart with the, you know, the drinks and the food. And so Barrett gets a breakfast sandwich. I think it costs $18.

Ooh. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm not that hungry. So I get a bag of, you know, $7 nuts, cashew nuts. I'm like, I'm good with that, I mean, for seven bucks. So I put the bag in the little cubbyhole in the cart, and, you know, I tee off. I leave the bag there. We get to the grain.

Well, I hear something. It's like two crows fighting. I look up and there's a crow that has my nuts on his beak. in my cart. And he, it was unopened. And he starts flying off. And I don't know, just, just adrenaline hit me, I guess. I just took off running.

After, wide open. After crow who's moved in on your nuts. And in short bursts, a man can move pretty fast, you know. Because he wasn't used to that behavior. So he dropped the nut. Well, when it hit the ground, he had already poked a hole in them. Of course, they went everywhere. I picked up about 10 of them in the bag.

That's about 10. That was about a dollar of cash you once you got to. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, what is wrong with this situation? You need a warden not to enforce laws, but to make sure, look, you got to keep animals need to know. There's a line you cross, and that was crossed. Oh, yeah.

So the next day... You're the only person in the history of Pebble Bees that wouldn't run after that bird. I can tell you that. Well, it's funny we got back to the cart. Well, his breakfast sandwich, he had laid it open. Oh, no. And taken a bite.

No. That crow had stomped on that to get to those nuts. And I said, I wouldn't eat the rest of that. No. I said, if a crow will pass on an half-eaten sandwich to get those nuts, I said, you need to chunk. Yeah, I don't care how much. Plus, who cares what that, I mean, who knows what that crow's been walking around?

We know what crows eat. So the second day, I buy a bag of jalapena kettle chips. I opened the bag, got a couple, put it in the same deal, but I wasn't going to keep it out of my side. I was just going to, like if I went to the green, I was going to put it in my pocket. I reached back to get my driver in that four-second span. A crow dive-bombed the cart, grabbed the bag, and here we go again. But this one, he just, he had been through this rodeo before. It may have been the same one.

Saw a fence. He crossed the fence, look, landed on it, and then proceeded to eat every one of those chips while looking at me. He'd eat one and look up at me. He'd want, I'm just standing there on the other side of the fence. The moral of that story is everything's gone south in California. That's right. The animals have taken over. You'd appreciate that story.

That's pretty good. But it was a great time. We were only supposed to be gone for the weekend, but like I said, we had some travel issues. Delays. And we wanted to get back for what happened last night, and you can introduce that. Yeah, so I was going to say, I'm glad we sent you away because you always have unique stories.

And then in your absence, Zach was in town because we've been doing interview bites for behind the scenes on. the new movie, The Blind, which we talked about quite a bit when Zach was on the podcast. And now we were super excited about it. And so last night, we mentioned us on the last podcast that we were getting together last night as a family. And we were going to spend some time in prayer about the movie, you know, because we want the almighty to bless it. We've said all along that we want it to be something where people have an opportunity to

see the life change of mom and dad, which led to our family and everything else. And we're also celebrating the launch of Duck Family Treasure, which now I see is all over Fox. I'm seeing an ad about every show I watch. Are you? Oh, yeah. They're doing the extended trailers now, so it's like a minute and two minutes.

Well, I think, so the official release of that is on the 19th Father's Day, they gave a sneak peek to already subscribers, I guess, to something so early. No, and I've gotten several emails from people in Anashamed Nation, and Jay's, they love it. I mean, like, they're like... Well, that's good. Y'all let me know this because... I forward a couple of them on to you, but I've heard from several, and they've watched already.

I feel like the whole series is a journey. I mean, so I think it, the first episode kind of explains what we're doing, because most people, they're like, you're doing what? It's like in the teaser, they put, I noticed they put Willie's response. Yeah. Because Willie, he's my brother. And we're filming a show. And he wasn't real sure of what we were doing. Right.

I mean, like, so when I explained it in the episode. He just starts cackling. He couldn't stop laughing. That wasn't faked or co-art. He literally could not stop laughing. And that was very funny last night. So we watched the, so last night, let's take another break. Last night we all got together.

What it reminded me of, Jace, was the, of course, we were kind of looking at the movie because we saw a couple of clips, and it's very raw right now, the footage, but we saw a couple of clips from the movie, which looks amazing early. Yeah. And then we showed the trailer from Jason Jep's new show. And I was there too. But it reminded me of the first time we got together as a family. Exactly.

Once we had made the decision that we were going to go forward with the Little Duck Show. And we just spent time in prayer and just, you know, talking about it. And we were trying to keep everybody about, we were starting a spiritual foundation that we weren't going to get caught up in a family, what most people get caught. caught up in on having a show, which is fame and fortune or whatever delusion. And I thought what was really cool, Jace, was that when we met that time, which would have now been, what, 10 years ago, you know, your kids were teenagers and down. And so we're willies. And so, you know, that was a thing we really wanted to pray about because, you know,

they were going to go, they were fixing to be, you know, nationwide and their teenagers. You know, how was this going to affect them? And last night, what was really cool was that Zach had planned this. evening together. Of course, we had a huge Robertson meal, which was fantastic, you know. It was fantastic. Jay cooked a lot of meat, and then Willie had one of his big slum goy. That was the best slum guillian. He's done. Oh, that, did you try some of that? Oh, Oh, you should have. It was incredible. He hit it on that one. He did. So we had a big meal. I looked at it and then backed off. Well, it was a slum guillian. It had a lot in there,

but it was very, very tasty. I'll tell you, boy, something, it was a brutal thing. It would be a brutal thing to watch any unrepentant male or female. It is really a brutal thing when the unrepentant male is you. Yeah. Yeah. I felt when I was unrepentant and to see that. Yeah. Well, they got heavy last night. At first I said it's kind of embarrassing to think if someone's going to make a movie of your life, but once I saw some of the clips, last night for the first time, I thought, man. Yeah, it was, it was tough. It was.

It was very emotional, but I was going to say that, so we started it, we had some worship together, and Max and Lela, Zach's two of his children, teenage children, and then Mia. My daughter. Led our worship. How good was that? Oh, my goodness. I mean, that was so powerful. Well, everybody got teary-eyed.

I looked around. I mean, I was a little teary-eyed. Our grandchildren were singing. Right. Like powerfully, though. It wasn't like, don't think, oh, they got together like a school. I was amazed. No, it was powerful.

It was powerful. They can get it. I mean, we were worship it. And I just thought, the reason I was touched in the moment and weepy was because I thought back to 10 years ago. Here are the ones we were praying for and, you know, please God, protect them through this, whatever's going to happen with this show. and now 10 years later, we're talking about a movie and another show, and they're leading us in worship. I mean, I was like, okay, God, you're good. And so then we watched the clips, but then we spent some time in prayer.

And I think because of the whole night, it was, we were all emotional and a lot of tears were shed in prayer, which I love, because that's just straight out of our hearts. And dad was, too. because, you know, obviously you have a movie made about you, and while that sounds really cool, I mean, like Dad says, it's also, it's also hard. We're reliving, you know, some of the... Well, right. When the first clip came on, because these are memories,

I mean, they were talking about doing interview in the family, I guess, as a marketing deal. Yeah, yeah. We agreed to do it. So people will know what to... Well, one of the things I said right off the bat, I said, I saw this movie 45 years ago. And he's like, say that.

say that in the interview. But because, you know, I've relived that. And I was thankful they were showing it because for me, it was a positive thing. Phil's troubles. That's why I was trying to encourage Phil. I was like, we all were. Because it helped me see the old man, the old self. So I didn't have to go there.

And I saw the transformation. Now, granted, it took a while for me to understand life is just not about, not doing wrong and hating the old self. You know, the gospel of Jesus, when it came to me, I realized, oh, this is God's power doing this. It's not about focusing on that. But I do think it's healthy because you need motivation. Temptation is tough, especially when you're young, you know, a teenager. And so a lot of times I would use Phil's troubles as motivation not to do.

that. I mean, I remember thinking many, many times, and some stories I've never shared, because they were difficult when I was a kid. I mean, I can't remember anything, but there's about seven or eight memories as a kid. I think about all the time. I mean, it's like I can't purge those from my head. But they were real, because when you're a kid, everything's bigger, and when you're fearful, and it's like, what's going on when the chaos ensues? You just tend to remember in those months. There's a couple of them I shared, and a couple of them I shared for the first time was Zach, and they actually put that in the movie. Right.

Because I was like, when he asked me to share some of those stories, I was like, I don't really want to. Yeah. But if Phil's going to allow his life to be shared, yeah. Okay, here you go. Here's a couple. I mean, let's just, if we're going to air it out, let's air it out. So I did. But it was very moving, but.

It's a brutal thing. I think we all needed that just because we all. seem to be launching some shows. Yeah, some new stuff. And there's a lot of hoopla that happens. And we don't want to seem like we're, you know, it's all about it. It's not. We want to keep our, we want to use this for God.

I mean, we believe he gets all the credit for giving us a platform. Well, Zach was kind of running the evening. And, you know, he was very emotional. And he talked about his mom because we talk a lot on here about Aunt Jan. And, you know, she's crossed over waiting. and we've talked about her role in dad's ultimate conversion. And so, you know, Zach's been really tired of this process because, you know, right now he just says the memories of his mom. Well, you know, there's a character, her character, her person is on the movie as a girl, you know,

and then later is an influence for you. So I think he was emotional, but I loved it because, you know, he reminded us last night that we're still a family that's trying to impact and change the world. So this is another medium. We've done musicals. We've done crazy stuff throughout this last 10 years. But this will be the first major motion picture. But I don't know, Jay, it's just, and we were watching it in fast clips last night. But there's just a setting of looking at us, kind of in our setting is where we were.

It really did look a lot like us. Yeah, they got it right. And, I mean, a lot of people would be like, boy, y'all are a bunch of hick. Poor hicks. Yep. That's way it was. And then the stuff they, we didn't see it. last night, Dad, but the stuff I hear that they shot of when you were a boy, which there's,

you know, quite a bit, a big section in the movie about that, it's even more poverty and, you know. Well, they had feels seemed kind of wild and crazy and you know what? It was a good depiction. It was just, that's the way it was. Yeah. So anyway, we just wanted to tell you all about it because we had mentioned it and it was a very powerful night for us, you know, as a family.

But I think it's a lot easier to watch that kind of stuff. if it's not you that's, well, your line you used on, you're dissecting. We met him at the end of production the day before they were rapping

and they were like, says it's been tough boys making this movie and they're like, oh man, then they started into all that said, well, it was a lot harder to live it. I'll just tell you that right now.

A lot of these people who, guys who played me at various form from a young life on up a teenager. You had three actors. They're from the Britain. Mm-hmm.

You know, downtown, But I thought they had a pretty good southern accent. Well, I thought they captured it pretty well. I was, I really thought it was good. We only saw a couple of others. Where are you from? He said, London.

I said, London. Yeah, we would have figured that. Let's take another break. So anyway, we'll tell you more as it comes along. Zach says probably another, you know, eight or ten months of editing for you, you know, the movie comes out. So we'll let you know a lot more. But even references in the Bible, I don't know how far y'all got down. Well, I wanted to, so I wanted to, I was going to tell you that, that we got into the first chapter.

But since you weren't here, if there was any of your take on it, I wanted you to share with that. I don't know. We talked about that idea of Jesus being superior to prophecy in the first three verses. And we had talked about it a little bit in the setup. And then we got into angels on the last podcast that we had. Well, I want to say this. I think a lot of people, a lot of sermons I've heard, they'll go to Hebrews 1, and they'll preach sermons about angels.

But you got to remember, Hebrews 1 is about Jesus. That's right. The bedrock is being laid in Hebrews 1 for about four verses, as all these epistles are out. Usually it comes out would stand on Jesus and the good news he brought. Right. I mean, I do think, I've always thought that Hebrews won. I mean, I love the, you know, the first four verses there because he's, it's like, let me give you an update world on the timeline of this.

I used to speak in different ways and variety of ways, but now Jesus, the son, he is the way I'm communicating. Right. I mean, that, you can't miss that. And it's interesting to talk about angels, and the Bible doesn't get into the details. You can look up all the verses about angels, and you can make a 10-point list on what they do and how they're used. But the point was, Jesus, even though we're going to get to that in chapter 2, was made a little lower than the angels in that he became a human, which he really made a point about that. I thought about that when you were talking about family last night,

because he makes this reference, which we'll get into, in chapter 2 in verse 11, he says, both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not a shame to call them brothers. I mean, it was in light of him becoming human. But you see that inspired word, there's something awesome about being a family.

You're getting that picture, even all the way back to the garden. I mean, a forever family, because that's where your mind goes to at the end, is really what it's all about. And it was God's idea. And we talked about that last night. I mean, everybody became emotional. It was real heavy and powerful. But, you know, somebody said something in there.

Somebody said about it changed, you know, being in Christ. it changes your view of death. Yeah. Because this is where that goes when you're a believer. You realize that death's not a problem. It was Zach that mentioned that because he talked about Bill Smith is prominent in the movie, Jan. Which was emotional for us too. He was a special man to all us.

And you see the scene where his character, who looked eerily like him at that age. Yeah, it did. And yeah, it just is emotional because he had an influence. hone us in a spiritual way. And even Big Al, who we didn't see last night in the clip, but apparently the way Zach put it, the actor that played him was really gregarious and good. And so he kind of became a really, when they're filming it, they loved the character of Big Al. But, you know, even him, and we told the story on the podcast that you were able to lead him to Christ before he crossed over, you know, just a few months. And so even that, I mean, all the people

we were talking about that are in the film that aren't here. Eight weeks, he cut it thin. Yeah, he cut it then. From atheist to a son of God, but he watched for 12 years, watched me to see the difference. And when he said, well, did you go from one to the other like that? How do you do that? Which, by the way, that's also the power. If an atheist, that would make sense. That's the power of a lifestyle.

You know, when Paul said, follow my examples. I follow the example of Christ. When you live it a certain way, it speaks volumes. I characterized it to them when they tracked me down and said, let's go. Let's go back to where we were. I'm like, nope, the one you're looking for, he's dead and gone. Yep. They all looked at each other like, boy, he's turned into a nut.

I think that line made it in the film, I think. We didn't see it. Might have. I wanted to, my, did y'all read the Psalms at all? Some, yeah, we read some of them. Did you read the Psalm 2? No. I read them, but I didn't mention them yesterday.

Well, I wanted to mention that. Was you going to say something else? No, I got a point I want to make later, but go ahead. So I wanted to read this. So when he says, so verse 4 of chapter 1, he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited his spirit of there. And to your point, Jay, that's the point of this section. It's not about angels. It's about Jesus being more powerful.

It's real tempting. Yeah. And I know y'all discussed. We did. We did. Y'all did. But you just have to remember, he's better. And you're never going to figure out exactly, you know, what an angel looks like.

I mean, there's curious verses that we all have fun with as we read some of them. Entertain strangers. But Jesus is better. And he became lower. I mean, the humility he showed only to then, through God's power, to become over everything. And his name, Jesus is God. His name is superior to them. the angels. They're never referred to as God.

No. Ever. Because they're, yeah. He's laying the groundwork to say, Jesus Christ came into place, he is God. That's right. All the fullness of the deity lives in in bodily form. Even though they're celestial and powerful, they're limited.

That's right. Hang on. Before you read that, let's take the last break. I just wanted to read. And by the way, some of them made mistakes, too. You know, gloomy dungeons held and gloomy. Well, there was rebellion in the other realm. Yeah, we know that. I just wanted to read,

when I, you know, I always have read this and I taught this and you probably did this book, but some of these Psalms or so, you're like, oh, that's in the Bible. I mean, and so I wanted to read Psalm 2, which is a quote from Hebrews 1, you know, 5 and 6, where it says, you are my son. Let's see if that's Psalm 2. I think verse 6 is Deuteronomy, but verse 5. Verse 5 is Psalm 1. You are my son.

today I've become your father or again I will be his father and he'll be my son so I saw him too which says why do the nations conspire and the people plot in vain I mean just just look at our world man when was this written that's right first line the kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the lord I see it yeah against his anointing. Well, that's why I said when you read this, you're like, I've never seen something written so long ago, literally just jump off the page as to what's going on in our culture and world. Let us break their chains, they say, and throw off their fetters. Verse four of Psalm 2, the one enthroned in heaven laughs. Talking about God. The Lord scoffs at them. Now this is David's view of what he's doing.

But then he rebukes him in his anger. He terrifies them in his wrath, saying, I have installed my king on Zion, my holy hill. I will proclaim the decree of the Lord. He said to me, you are my son. Today I have become your father. Ask of me and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth, your possession.

You will rule them with an iron scepter and you will dash them to dash them to pieces like pottery. Therefore you kings be wise, be warn you rulers of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the sun lest he be angry and you be destroyed in your way. For his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him. What a text.

What's powerful to me is that you'd think, well, what did he do? It's like, so he writes a song. about that and you're reading this about you're my son today I've become your father so what did he do that made the nations respond like this well Jesus came down here he lived a perfect life he helped people he died and was buried and raised right so it's like if you're reading that from if you don't know who Jesus is you're like oh this there's a lot of terror and anger in there and think about this jace this is that statement was written 1,000 and 47 years before he got there.

Right. Yeah. A thousand and a half years, a thousand, fifty years, before he actually did it. Right. Showed up. So the Hebrew writer just picked it up and it just went right on through. How would the psalmist, how would he have known all these things, Al? Oh, it's incredible.

The other one I want to mention is this one is, I did a whole lesson on this one. This one is Psalm 102, and that's quoted in verse 12 when it says, you will roll them up like a robe like a garment, they will be changed, but you remain the same and your years will never end. And I think 10 through 12 there, where it says, In the beginning, O Lord, verse 10, you laid the foundations of the earth. Well, if you go over to 102, now I think this is absolutely awesome. This fires me up.

And the reason is, is because when he gets to verse 18, he says, of Psalm 102, let this be written for a future generation. Oh, I wonder who he's going to talk about. That a people not yet created may praise the Lord. I mean, you want to see the prediction 1,000, how many years ago you said, of the church being here and being a part of the greatest kingdom? the earth would ever know. He's talking to us, which is very inspiring.

The Lord looked down from his sanctuary on high from heaven. He viewed the earth. This verse 19. To hear the groans of prisoners and release those condemned to death. So the name of the Lord will be declared in Zion and his praise in Jerusalem when the peoples and the kingdoms assemble to worship the Lord. So watch 23. In the course of my life, he broke my strength.

He cut short my strength. days so I said because you got to remember the context of this whole thing if you read the little paragraph below 102 it says a prayer of an afflicted man when he is faint and pours out his lament before the Lord which that's why I was saying last night that came up about us I mean failures 76 and I mean we're all getting older so he tells this beautiful I mean it's beautiful but would be depressing without Jesus. And some of, before I, before I read that, uh, 23, I did like the, the verse, uh, five when it says, it says, because of my loud groaning, I'm reduced to skin and bones.

I'm like a desert owl, like an owl among the ruins. He was talking about just looking at his body. Yeah. I pictured this desert, you know, and there's an owl. I mean, that's all this left. And there's nothing to eat. So, there's nothing to eat. And so then he starts talking about all.

I'll eat ashes as my food and mingle my drink with tears because of your great rest. So he compares that to being without God, trying to live a life, you know, without God. And experiencing the end-time judgments just from my life without any hope. And then verse 11, he's like, my days are like evening shadow, whether or like grass. So that's the context. So then when he gets back to 24, so I said, do not take me away, oh, my God, in the midst of my days. your years go on through all generations. And then here's our quote from Hebrew.

In the beginning, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you will remain. They will all wear out like a garment, like clothing, you will change them, and they will be discovered. I hope the new green deal. I hope their listeners are listening to that. Yeah.

It's pertinent. Y'all need to save the planet, crowd you better look but here's the key verse 27 but you remain the same in your years will never end the children of your servants will live in your presence their descendants will be established before you so i'm saying you get a bigger picture when you read hebrews and sure he was talking to these you know those coming out of that jewish system but that's a picture for everybody yeah i mean he's saying look this we're all we all struggle with getting old and the fear of death and there's nothing you can do to change it right and he's like you know why god is better through jesus you know why

jesus is a better way and this is the picture you're getting of course you see how he's describing really the death of jesus for our sins and the resurrection for our frailties when it when it comes to trying to overcome death. But sandwiched in between that is this group of people, which is the church that are a part of this, which is your family. That's what he's giving you this vision of. And not only that, to Phil's point,

he gave that vision through a guy making music with a harp over a thousand years ago and then quoted here. Yeah. Well, we talked about that same text, Jay, he's on a podcast yesterday, because I was talking about my sermon, and I mentioned in my sermon Sunday about Lume, which was a,

he was a godly guy, who had a position in the church, but was also a great scientist. This is like 100 years ago. He posited the theory on top of Einstein's that the universe began at a singularity and is expanding, which is now proven to be true, because the Hubble telescope and all that.

But that's what this verse says. When he talks about laying out like a garment and expanding, so how did the psalmist, a thousand years ago before Lumet ever came along and had an observation, say the same thing that is true because God made it. I mean, that's pretty powerful. So that's what we, we were into that yesterday. I'm telling you.

Well, I know we're out of time. Oh, man, we are at a time. But I want to make a connection because this is a secondary thought. Between 102, Psalm 102 and this Romans 8, talking about the whole. Yeah, get that on your next. Yeah, let's do that on the overtime. Yeah. I wanted to get into.

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