Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 506 | Phil Meets His New Puppies & Jase Nails the Problem with Performance-Based Salvation

Episode Date: July 3, 2022

Phil finally gets to meet his new puppies, BoBo and BeBe, and he gets to enjoy sharing them with his grandchildren. Jase addresses the problem with those who feel compelled to compare moralities as an attempt to contribute to their own salvation. Jase says the problem with performance-based salvation is that when you outperform others, it crushes them, and when you fail to perform, it crushes you. And Zach shares his favorite Phil quote of all time: "Peace of mind is the rarest commodity of all time." Get "Your Daily Phil: 100 Days of Truth and Freedom to Heal America's Soul" by Phil Robertson, available now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400235936 Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, Al's still in Greece. We have Zach piping in from where you at North Carolina? North Carolina. You did have technical difficulties this morning. We have, but the show must go on. Now, we do have some breaking news here. I understand you and K have received the package. You want to describe that? She, the UPS truck accidentally ran over Bobo, and his eyes were getting a little bad anyway. And then old age had come his way. He'd be about 12, 13.

So Bobo bit it out in the middle of the park right there in front of the house, UPS truck. And before you tell what's happened in the arrival, what y'all do is y'all just replace the dog with a similar looking dog and just name him the same thing. That's right. That's way that way he's always here. Oh, Bobo. He's still here. So you all got a dog. Bobo arrived and his running mate, we're going to call him Bobo in memory of UPS, Chuck. Who was also in memory of Bobo? Bobo. I was on a line of Jesse. He came from Jesse. So you believe when it comes to people, you believe in resurrection. But I'm beginning to feel that in the dog, the canine, you're kind of a real.

reincarnationist. Well, I'll put it this way. If dogs, actually, some people say, you know, we're going to have dogs in heaven, I don't know, but on our, if it's, if they enter heaven, we've got a pass of the dog waiting on us. Yeah, well, I'll look for you. I'll see the dogs running behind you. Tell us about the dogs are. I know where they're buried, I know where we buried them out here behind the tractors out here. Yeah. You know, in the edge of the backwater, you know, that's where you. Oh, see, y'all had a whole kind of funeral procession. These two, dogs showed up and I looked at them and they're like... Oh, so you got two. Well, tell us the story with that. Is it two males? Is it a male and a female? It's a

male and a female. They're six weeks old. They're the size of the wharf rats that we've been putting the rat poison on. Oh, boy. So we've got to make sure the rat poison was taken up before we brought these little things. Look, they were... So for you listening, he's showing that they look about, what, six inches long? They're the size of a cat squirrel, not a fox squirrel. Fox squirrel is bigger than these dogs. These dogs are little. For you, yep, the cat squirrel is the smaller gray squirrel. The fox squirrel is usually quite large and kind of an orange-looking red. And literally, Ms. Kay, on her way back, she said, we've got the dogs.

And she said, they're the most beautiful dogs in the world. Oh, wow. I said, well, I'm looking forward to seeing them. She said, isn't that great? I said, yeah, bring them on. So my question is, how much did they bark and wine last night in the first night? Well, we got sneaky and freaky, who the Miss Kay got off the dashers, and they're two of the dumbest dogs on earth.

We were wondering what their response was going to be to two new dogs showing up. So when the two new ones, they brought them in, they were hugging them, you know, and they had a little blanket, you know. Of course, old sneaky and freaky were growling. They didn't like it. I said, hey, chaos. Controversy. Yeah.

So we don't want a big dog fight, you know, These dogs, I mean, they're so small they would be easily done in. But sneaky and freaky are never been fighters. Yeah, no, they're not. Bobo was the, he was the one that took care of the fighters. You know that sneaky and freaky have never got within arms reach of me when I come visit. Listen. They don't, if I go to pet them, they go, they're going.

And five years, the only time they will get close to me is if it thunders. If it thunders, boom, boom. here they come, and they get beside me and start shivering like this. Like, save us because we're dead because there's a loud noise. The only thing they fear more than you is actual lightning. Lightning and the sky, the thunder. That's interesting. They're your friend then.

It's relative. What made you choose to get two dogs to replace Bobo? Because you replaced Bobo now with two dogs, right? Always remember this. This entire thing is built around the strength. strange creatures that God made, they're called women. So the women, the women, the creatures, when the creatures say we got dogs coming, if you really want to see women cry, oh, no, you don't want them.

Oh, so they were crying on the arrival. Oh, no. They cry on the departure and the new arrival. This was a happening. Yeah. The daylight, they're up there looking what they're doing, what a last night, you know, and they get to make sure they have plenty of to eat. Well, I'm sure that'll be fun for me.

S-K, that's awesome. So you've got four, so you've got four dogs in the house now. Four? Four dogs in the house are still counting. So, well, congratulations. Let me, you can give us an update from time to time. I mean, we're way past, you know, get them things out of here. Oh, the women.

Well, I told you once before, one of the benefits from losing your hearing are these types of situation. Yeah. Because for me, I would have to put background noise as a, as a. slept like a fan because they would wake me up. I have to do this with this little baby that we have because it just... Well, we had two of our, you know, one of Jeff's daughters, the youngest one, that little girl, her and Stone's daughter, another one of my granddaughter, see we had two granddaughters waiting on the arrival of the dogs and they pitched in.

And so they determined where they were going to sleep last night. They had the dog back in the bathroom, you know, with a little kind of a little, kind of like a fort with a little rubber deal where they couldn't get out of it. So that's why they slept. I was sure that was fun for them. It's dog day. You're making memories. You're turning into truly a great, great grandpa.

You're overseeing the new dogs. Oh, yeah. You got the grandkids out there. So we have two new dogs to add to the collection. Well, that's good. Well, I'm sure Miss Kay is happy. And you know what they say? Happy wife, happy life for you.

That's it. You can't argue with that for sure. Where did you guys leave off? I was out last week. Let's see. What did we do last time? We were, you know what we did? We got to Hebrews chapter three.

And I believe we went through the whole chapter. So we should be, yeah, we should. Well, I mean, we did two podcasts. I haven't. Yeah. Al, Al, I'll Skypeed in from Greece, which was kind of embarrassing because I said, because I went to Greece on a mission trip with our buddy, the Oklahoman. And I was like, so Al, tell us what you're doing there.

And he's like, oh, I'm just here. I was the strangest answer. I've ever heard of my life. Not doing the Lord's work. I said I would have. He's on the Aegean Sea where the Apostle Paul, they pull out and left, and a storm caught him. and somewhere up the way a little ways is when they had the shipwreck.

But that's where all that went down. Yeah. It is moving to go to these old places and you read the Bible and then you look up and say, I'm out, look. Seriously, it's research and development. It's the Bible with pictures, you know. You're getting the geography of what happened. There's something cool about that.

It's a hot. It is cool. We got to go. Phil and I went. We stood on Mars Hill together where Paul preached. that famous sermon in Acts 17, and Phil, verbatim from memory, stood on the hill and was essentially quoting the entire chapter of Acts 17. And then the people started to kind of crowd around as he's given this dissertation. I think they thought that it was the Apostle Paul

reincarnated. But it was pretty powerful when we were there. Well, I'll tell you this. Many in the audience, after I gave that speech, are quoted Acts 17. I didn't. kind of memorized it on the way over there but uh but the people who heard that the film crew was saying why are so many of them crying i said you'd have to ask them yeah i just told them i said i'm going i'm standing right here the apostle paul stood right here over 2 000 years ago and well we went phil and i shared this on an earlier podcast but you need to listen to them more so you'd be in the leap but When we got to the God on Mars Hill and Missy, which she's famous about doing, she has a certain look, and I know what's fixing to happen.

It's just, it's a complete transformation of her, what would you call it, just the way she is. And I know she's fixed to say something. And she's going to be passionate about it. So she had her Bible. we're all just kind of plopped down on the rock taking it all in and she started reading that act 17 and uh of course she didn't get three verses in you know and she started getting a little emotional i shared this on the podcast but then we had we had a we had somebody who didn't agree with what she was reading come up because people started listening obviously most people there were believers and uh it was obviously a guy who was a little

and we talked about this when I keep forgetting his name. What's the name? We can cut this out. What's the name of the guy, the missionary we've had here? Larry Bowles. We talked about it when Larry Bowles was here. Because he just basically was angry at God, was angry with, I think he was, he was from some part of Russia. And so he, after she finished,

he just started kind of letting his heart out in opposition, which started quite the conversation between Larry, Missy, and the Russian. And I thought they spoke the truth in love. They were, and I think they realized the fact that you may say something and you may be bitter, but what are you doing on the top of Mars Hill sitting down listening to the Bible being read? I believe there's a sign in your actions that you're sheds. searching, which is what they picked up on. It's like, you can say what are you want to, but you're here and you're engaging with

what we're reading. And so I thought it was a powerful moment. Which ironically is the exact, that's the exact point that Paul's making in that sermon that God has determined the exact times and places that man would live and dwell, what is it, so that he would seek him out and perhaps find him. God's ordained our moments so that we would hear about the coming of his kingdom and, and more importantly, the coming of the king and the establishment of his kingdom. But he's not far from each one of us, you know, so that we'd reach out and find him. Well, and he makes that point about where his offspring, I mean, he's introducing there this relationship that God on who he is that he chose with people, which is.

It's a covenant relationship. I mean, it's, you know, I thought about, I mean, it's like if you tried to get access to the president or, well, they're not going to let you in. And if you see the president and you take off running, somebody's going to shoot you. Yeah. I mean, that's the difference, you know, with a father, son, daughter aspect, he made us. He gave us life, which I think is. He covered from one man. God made every nation of men.

He gave that. He also said, therefore, he ends it all up by saying, since for God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being, because he's standing on Mars Hill with all its glory of man-made, what would you call them,

statues, man-made gods. Yeah, idols. He said, he's not like gold or silver or image made by man's design and skill. He was looking out of course. cross all those things that have been buried in the ground that they bowed down to. In the past, God overlooks such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent because he has set a day when he will judge this world with justice by the man he has appointed.

Now here comes Jesus. He's given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead. In Paul's sermon, unfortunately, when they heard about the resurrection of the dead, some of them sneered and others said we want to hear you more on the subject this is the first time the gospel had been preached to the Greeks ever so when they heard it they were these are the best minds of the day and most of them said nah what's he's talking about reservoir whoa but he planted the seed and it does say a few men became followers of paul and believed among those was down to see us a member of the Ariobicus, also a woman named Mareis. There weren't many, but he did plant

the seed. And that's the message going into Hebrew this morning. Well, that's right. In Hebrews, you know, here this... Well, hold on. Before you go there, let's take a quick time out here. Well, in John 1, you know, it's interesting. I heard a great sermon on this other day, but, you know, when he said in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, you know, that Word, the Greek word for that is logos which is when you look into that it's not only is it we i've always used it kind of the communication but when you look in the definition of that i mean it's more it's reason and and purpose and the sermon i heard they used an illustration like uh i think in the sermon he he uh when you have an item with that has an instruction manual it basically tells you the design

but it also is like when you don't do what it's intended to do, well, you've got trouble. And so, and he's basically saying the word became flesh. And in the middle of that in verse three, going to Act 17, which you mentioned, through him, because we know this is Jesus, all things were made, this John 1,3, without him, nothing was made that has been made. in him was life and that life life was the light of men. So it's like when you start saying, what does that mean? I mean, that is so heavy that here's this harmony of the universe that everything that's created that we see, when you look at the ramifications of that,

anything that had a beginning or has a beginning, he was a part of that. I mean, just think how big that is. Well, that's the question people say. So did God, the Father, make the universe or Jesus? And the answer is yes. That's why when you get to the book of Hebrews, in lieu of the verses I'll give this morning, we must pay chapter 2 more careful attention,

therefore, to what we have heard so that we do not drift away. He's getting the Hebrews, the Jews, ready to understand something. Well, that was in chapter two. For if the message spoken by angels was binding and every violation, disobedience received a just punishment, how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? And he goes back to what Luke said in Luke chapter, yeah, let's see right here. Yeah, he goes back to Luke, to Luke, what Jesus said, this salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him. Well, if you go back when Jesus announced what was fixing to go down here, the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him.

Tell us where you at, Phil. I'm in Luke chapter four. And when Jesus is first announcing who he is and why he's there, the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was. handed to him unrolling it he found in the place where it is written the spirit of the lord is on me he's talking about himself because he's anointed me to preach good news to the poor he sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners recovery of sight for the blind to release the oppressed to proclaim the year of the lord's favor you say well those jews who were there that day How did they receive that?

Well, all the people in the synagogue within 10 minutes were furious when they heard this. They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built in order to throw him down the cliff. But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way. The point being, by the time you get to Hebrews, you better pay more careful. attention to what you've heard that was first announced by the Lord because if you don't when you get to chapter 4 in Hebrews it's the first time it's brought up but I have a list here that dates all the way back to the Psalmist and you know what it's about through the epistles it's about the promise the promise God made to Abraham therefore chapter 4 of Hebrews where we are

since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found fallen short of it. He's speaking to the Jewish people, and there was trouble from the time he announced the gospel to this day. For we also have had the gospel preach to us, just as they did, but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those that heard did not. combine it with faith.

Now we have believed, now we who have believed, enter the rest, believed just as God has said, I declared on oath or my anger. These people will never enter my wrath. What he's saying is the book of Hebrews, they're in a danger of falling away from the elementary beginning point of it.

And it's all about the promises. Remember when Peter said, repent me, baby. The promise is. for you, living a spirit-filled life, the spirit's given, guarantees you be resurrected. In Romans 413 through 25, about the promise, the promise. Ephesians 2,11 through 18, the promise. Hebrews 2 that we just covered. Hebrews 4, verse 1 that I just read, woven throughout the book of Hebrews, Hebrews 6, 13 through 19, just a quick, 13 through 19. When God made His

promised to Abraham. It just keeps coming up in the book of Hebrews. Hebrews 10, 23. You just look, you say, what does he bring up? 23, 23, let's see. Let's see.

What are you looking for? Hebrews 10, 23. Yeah, let's see. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess for he who promised is faithful. And that wordage goes all the way through Hebrews 10, Hebrews 1117, without faith, it's impossible.

Hebrews 1137. But I think the point is, a person makes a promise. And that was, you know, to go back to John 1, when he said the light, verse 4, shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. And, you know, some versions say overcome it. I looked into this Greek word because I'm like, how do you, how does one of them say overcome? And the ones say understand. And I think that King James says can't comprehend. And it hit me.

And like I said when I was listening to this dissertation on this, that when you think of those who oppose Jesus, I mean, you basically have two camps, because we're seeing that in Hebrews. But the first one is just people of the world who just outright say, I mean, this is a fairy tale. This is crazy. You're saying God came to earth. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous. And so what do they do? They try to overcome it.

They try to crush it. They persecute it. They persecute those who trust in it. But then you have another group of people to the definition of this Greek where you have another group of people who try to have a form of religion, which in this case in the book of Hebrews, you had this Jewish nationalism that, and because that's where their roots were, based on sacrifices and ordinance and rituals and we'll see tabernacles and sacrifices and. but if you miss Jesus in that, well, if you don't understand who this Jesus is, that he was with God in the beginning,

that all things were made and without him, nothing was made and in him was life. Look, he is the promise. Well, right, in 14, it says, and he became flesh. On that, let's take a quick break. To go ahead, Bill.

You mentioned that. Well, go ahead, then. Yeah, you mentioned, you mentioned he became flesh, and you were quoting out John, chapter one. And then the interesting thing about this whole thing is how this discussion today even took place. We didn't plan on going to Act 17. We didn't plan on starting there.

But that's where we started because we were talking about Greece and Al being in Greece, we're making fun of Al. And then we got into Act 17. But think about Acts 17 where it's wedged at in, and, in scripture and in Paul's particular missionary journeys. He was preaching to, as Phil said, Gentiles, but that's surrounded by Paul going and preaching to the Jewish people and the synagogues. And it's interesting the take or the approach that Paul takes of how different it is,

you know, from Acts 17 to when he goes to like Thessalonica and these other places, it's a completely different approach. Yep. But what's the same is this core message is, we're hitting on here, which is what Hebrews is getting at, which is what you mentioned in John chapter 1, that in the beginning was the word, the word was with God, the word was God, through him all things were made. And in Hebrews chapter 1, he starts with the very same language when he says that he, through whom Jesus, he also made the world, and this is in verse 3, and he is the radiance.

He is the radiance of his glory and the exact representation of his nature and upholds all things by his word and his power. Acts 17, going back to Acts 17, he's not even talking to Jewish people. But what does he say? He's going to not only, like, he's going to judge the world by this man, Jesus.

He is the supreme being. He is the cornerstone. He is all of it. And as you guys were talking about this idea of a promise, I love what Phil said. Man, that was so true. And we're all kind of saying this.

I feel like we said every episode, and I think we keep saying it. Jesus is the promise. The promise is, is personal. It's personal. And I think that's what the, what's going on here in the book of Hebrews is the. Yeah. That's why, Zach, when you get to Acts 11 throughout the book of Hebrews, these whole until the promise keeps coming up. By faith, Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice, it's Hebrews 11. He, he who had received the promises was about

to sacrifice his one and only son. Well, listen. Now there's reads, even though God had said to him, it's through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned. Now it's fixed to get him, have him kill. Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead and figured he'll be speaking. He did receive Isaac back from the dead. That's just to give you one example. You say, the gospel of Jesus, Jesus himself was announced in advance, and you better hold on to it. And he goes all the way back.

But he always comes back to he who received the promises. You say, that's through Abraham. And then he said, well, he kill your son. Now, let me see how about your end. It's the greatest story ever told, boys. Yeah, I think that's why Paul said in 2nd, Corinthians 120, he said, for no matter how many promises God has made, they are yes in Jesus Christ.

Yep. Which is the point. Well, you underestimate when you go to all our listeners, when you all study the book of Hebrew, just remember those I gave you. Hebrews 2, Hebrews 4, Hebrews 6, Hebrews 10, another one in Hebrews 10, and Hebrews 11, read every time those promises. This was an old thing all the way through the annals of time. But the old song, Jace, standing on the promises of God.

Yeah, exactly. It is apropos. Yeah, I was, I preached this Sunday at our church, and we're going to the book Matthew, I says in Matthew chapter 12, getting ready for the kingdom of God in Matthew 13, which is going to be great this next coming week. But, you know, I was looking at Jesus in his interaction with the Pharisees, and it's so similar of how he interacted at Matthew 12 with the entire premise of the book of Hebrews and, for that matter, the book of Colossians, which we just finished.

And you said this in an earlier podcast, Jace. He said, what does Jesus, if he summoned it all up? What's he saying? The whole point is Jesus is better. He's better than the angels. He's better than the prophets. He's better than Moses, Hebrews chapter 3, Matthew 12. He's better than Jonah.

He's better than Solomon. The only sign I'm going to give you people, he told him, is the sign of Jonah, who is in the belly of a well. for three days and came up out of it alive. And the son of man's going into the bell of the earth and coming up three days later. And I'm telling you somebody greater than, you believe Jonah, but you won't believe the one who's better than Jonah. You believe Solomon and the Queen of the South.

These people are going to stand up and condemn you. And after the sermon was over, one of the girls came up to me that's in our church. And she said, you know, because my whole point was, what is Jesus' promise? His promise is his presence. And she said, you ever consider the fact that the book of Matthew, the gospel of Matthew, his account of Christ, it ends and begins with the same thing. And I'm going to read this to you, because I think this is ultimately his promise. This is at the end of Matthew 1, verse 23. Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a son, and they shall call his name

Emmanuel, which means, or which translates, God with us. What's the promise? God's presence. God with us, you go to the very last chapter of Matthew, and this is what he says. Go therefore baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you, and lo, I am with you, always, even to the end of the age. God's presence is here, and it's in the believer. And by the way, that's his promise. Yeah, why are you there? When you get to, we'll be hitting it at the next three or four podcast. When God, this is Hebrew 6, 13, when God made his promise to Abraham, just listen to this, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, saying, I will surely bless you and give you many descendants. And so after waiting patiently, Abraham received what was promised.

Did Jesus finally come on the scene? This is post-Jesus here. men swore by someone greater than themselves, the oath confirms what is said and puts it in to all arguments. Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose to save us all, very clear, to the heirs of what was promised. He confirmed it with the oath. He said, I will swear by myself, since there's no one bigger to swear by. God did it. So they're by two unchangeable things.

I'm going, I promise, I will save you, and I can't lie. So just grab a hold of it and receive it instead of rejected like some of you in the book of Hebrews are deciding to do. Yeah. Let's take a break. Well, in Hebrews, you know, they're trying. They didn't understand that you're not going to be able to do this without Jesus. Because to go back to where I was thinking about in John, when he said in verse chapter one, when he said he came to that which his own.

I think this is real practical to where we're studying in Hebrews because Jesus was a Jew. He came to that culture. And so when you read that chapter four and two of Hebrews where it says, for we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did, but the message they heard was of no value to them

because those who heard it didn't combine it with faith. Yep. So when you read John 111 said, he came to that which his own, but his own did not receive him. Yep. Now I said that. It's not like they weren't acknowledging that there's a God.

I mean, it made me think of this practical illustration. I mean, there was a time in the, you know, 50s and 60s, I guess our biggest enemy as a nation was Russia. We were worried about a nuclear war. But we as people, I remember, you know, the thought is, well, they don't believe in God. They have rejected their communists. But then here you fast forward 40, 50 years, and our biggest threat came from religious people who didn't understand Jesus. Now they had this moralistic look where you come with us and do what we say in the name of God or we'll kill you.

Well, obviously, it looks like our culture today where you have people who deny God. And what do they say? Just look at the problems we have. There's no absolute truth. There's no basis for morality. You have yours. Do whatever. If it feels good, do it.

And I mean, with that, but then on the other side, you have people in religion who miss Jesus, who are trying to accomplish salvation by this comparison of morality. So you look at other people. And if you're better than them, you. you become oppressive. And that's not appealing because, you know, Jesus said, all men will know you by your love for one another. And so that's the problem here because when it said verse 12, and I want to make a point here in John 1, John 112,

yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. I mean, he's a person. The whole order of all creation, in our existence, going back to Acts 17, the whole reason we're here is that God, through his love,

plan, for knowledge, grace, mercy, justice, all the qualities of God want sons and daughters in this relationship, to your point. Children born not of natural descent nor of a human decision or a husband's will,

but born of God. This is this whole concept that you can be born again and God is giving you that right. Yeah. So I just want to read this and then you can comment. The word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. Well, I looked up that Greek word for dwelling. Interesting enough, you know what it means?

Tabernacle. Because here God, God said, look, I'm going to be with you. So when people come to us and they're like, no, oh, you're a believer. So where's your temple? And we're like, well, Jesus is our temple. And they're like, you're crazy. That seems insane. It does.

But I just read that we are Christ's house. You know, we are his house. They're like, well, who runs this thing? Yeah, yeah, we are the temple of God. That's what, that's his point in Hebrews, you know, three. First, 15th, six. It's a good one. Well, think about this.

Think about the promise that Phil mentioned earlier. I mean, just, and then we're hitting on it right here, just but the tied up exactly in the context of Hebrews. For he tells us what the promise is. He says, verse one, therefore let us fear if while a promise remains of entering his rest. So what's the promise? The promise is entering the rest of God. It's entering into this rest.

And you could only get there by faith. That's why when you get to passages like Paul mentions, and I think it's Romans 14, when he's talking about like these controversial, kind of trivial matters of eating or drinking. and can we eat the meat, sacrifice, the idols, and the whole violation of the conscience, and that whole argument that Paul makes, how does he sum the whole thing up when he ties it back to the kingdom? He says, for the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but what? It's of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.

It's righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. So, Phil, one of the greatest lines that you say, that I love it every time you said, and it resonates with me, as you say, a peace of mind, the rarest of all commodities. And it's like, that's what God's people are looking for. God's people are looking for rest. Some people, they like the, they like the, I want rest. While we're alive, that's what's incredible about this, because he says in verse three of chapter four, now we who have believed enter that rest.

We have that peace. So he's, now, because he's comparing it when the Israelites were. wandering around in the wilderness. And you said, what was going in the wilderness? They realized that they weren't self-sufficient. They realized they were helpless. What ensued? Quarling.

Panic. And so what was God doing? He's showing them, I'm the provider. He was taking care of them. He was willing to help him. He was faithful to them. And I think even when I was in Israel and visited there, I noticed that the tradition that when they adhere to the Sabbath, even today, it wasn't what you think.

I was shocked. It wasn't like they were all sitting around gloom and saying, oh, I can't do anything. And it was a joyous, you know, meal. They had the two loaves on the bread that represented, you know, represented God is providing over an abundance. And so now when you're saying, oh, wait a minute. he's making a comparison that Jesus does more than even that, the physical bread that he provided in the wilderness. We live this life, which is a wilderness, and we realize that God's got a plan for us. And through Jesus, he gives us the ability to rest from what?

I wrote down a list of them. Ask that question again. Ask that question again. We've got to take a quick break, though, but ask the question again on the other side of the break. Because I think that question, that is the question right there. Rest from what? That's the question. Let's take a quick break and then we can get into that.

Rest from what? And these are things that we're going to read in the book of Hebrews. Rest from a guilty conscience through Jesus in his blood. Rest from the consequences of our sin. Without Jesus providing that. rest? What are the consequences? All bad. That's why when you get to, most people will quote John 316, but you should never read that without reading John 17 and following. God's the love the world, he sent his own be gotten son, whoever believes in it won't perish but have

eternal life. We're quick to say that. But the next verse says, God did not send his son and to this world to condemn the world but to save the world through him that's everybody whoever believes in him is not condemned but whoever does not believe

stands condemned already that was one of the things the Hebrews and them were wrestling with because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only son here's the verdict light has come into the world there comes Jesus but men love darkness

instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.

Yeah. That's the wrap-up, beginning, middle, and end all in about this much. So when you get to the book of Hebrews, he's tattling him. Look, you do not want to miss this now. Don't miss Jesus. Exactly.

So here's the rest of my list. He gives us rest from the burdens of the past. You just think without Jesus' forgiveness and his sacrifice, there's just no way to move on from some of the things that have happened in our past. You think of the consequences of that. But in Jesus, there's a place where you can go, there is a peace that, that, you know, there is a peace that surpasses all understanding. I almost want to preach.

Yeah. Look, we enter the rest, look, from fear and anxiety of present circumstances. That's why when a pandemic breaks out, we're in the rest of God in Jesus, in that he controls the atoms and the molecules, even Jesus himself when he was sharing the earth. He healed multiple people. And you say, well, what if he doesn't? Well, then we're resurrected.

There's a peace that comes with that. There's because he's indestructible. He's imperishable. So you see the point. Rest from worries about the future. I mean, you're saying, oh, what am I going to do? Oh, I'm getting old. I don't know.

I can't do what I used to. I mean, what happens if the world ends? Well, it ends, but we don't. Yep. rests from the pressure of having to be in charge or control. And I wrote this, I read this a chapter in one of McGuigan's books, and I really liked the way he worded this, but he, because he was talking about the Sabbath and this very passage, and he said, the Sabbath represents, what the Sabbath represents is that in the wilderness,

we don't carry God. He carries us. And the point being, you think about all the rituals they were doing, they were doing it to act as the bridge to God, because there's a separation. He's 100% holy. He's 100% righteous. We're not, obviously.

And that's why this putting yourself under a system of right and wrong and you keeping it is going to crush you. because you're never going to measure up. And when you're pretty good, you're going to crush others because they're not measuring up to you. And you've not understand that Jesus is the entire function of why the universe is here and why you're here, to find him or he find you.

And there you find your peace. You find your rest. You're like, oh, wow. So I wanted to bring this up because he, He brings up Joshua in the middle of this in verse 8, where he says, for if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. There remains then a Sabbath rest for the people of God. For anyone who enters God's rest, this is 410, also rest from his own work, because you can't do it,

which is the same principle. It took 40 years in the wilderness for them to realize, you know what, If we didn't have God, we would just not have hope. It's interesting that just as God did from his. Go ahead, Zach. Yeah, it's interesting that if you read the rest of that verse there, he says that, therefore, this verse 11, let us be diligent to enter that rest,

the rest that you've been talking about. And here's why. So no one will fall through following the same example of disobedience. So it's interesting that we want to think that disobedience is the violation of the arbitrary commandments that God gave so that we would have to prove ourselves righteous. But that's not what he says here. The disobedience is the refusal to enter the rest of God. And I think I wrote this question down because you see this progressive warning here to not harden your hearts. You know, today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.

It's the same language, by the way, in Matthew 12 and 13 when he's chastising the Pharisees there. Jesus is like, your hearts are hard. You got hard hearts. What's at the core of their hard heart that they will not submit to the rest that God is inviting them into? In their case, I think it was what you mentioned earlier, maybe Jewish nationalism. I'm like, that could be us today. Like we hone in on these things that are like they're just temporary and they're futile. Not that they don't matter.

I shouldn't say that. But they are temporary, and they're not first importance. And we're honing in on these things. Even the church itself, you can take the things of God. And I say this over and ever again, you hone in on that. You put your hope on the things of God instead of the God of the things. And you're not going to enter the rest. And I think that's why this message right now is so applicable for today because people are exhausted.

People are tired of being outraged. You know, people need rest. Yeah, exactly. I was going to bring up a point in which goes that what you just said goes in perfectly with it. When he brought up Joshua, I'm just going to read one verse from Joshua. Because I just thought, why did he bring up Joshua here? You know, what was his illustration? I read one verse and I said, okay, that answered that question.

Because this is my final thing we get rest from, which is from our enemies. And look, when you go public with your faith and you declare Jesus as the object of not only your life, but the world, the universe, and the whole purpose for creation, you're going to have some enemies. Oh, yeah. They're coming en masse. And look, a lot of times I think when we see the world start to crumble around us and we're like, you know, doom and gloom,

and then all of a sudden we're going around like we need to help keep God alive. That's the wrong attitude about this. He's in full control, even in the wilderness when it looks bleak. But I want to read this one verse in Joshua 231. It says, after a long time had passed, and the Lord had given Israel rest from all their enemies around them. And then it says Joshua fully in advance in years. And I thought about that. What can really, what can our enemies do?

It made me think of that song, it may look like I'm surrounded, but I'm surrounded by him. this is how I fight my battles and I just think it's so you know applicable to what our society is right now I mean we we get frightened and almost panic like we're in the wilderness because of the enemies are you know they're loud and we're like oh no whatever are you going to do and we're serving and have a loving relationship father's son daughter type relationship with the creator of the cosmos who is so complicated, complicated about the power on what he can do from just all of life forms when you look at the details and to plan this out through history, have a book written about it, this many authors over that span of years.

I mean, what are we fretting about here? I promise. That's a great point. Man, that's it. Yeah. No, that'll preach, you know. Yeah. That will preach.

Because I think one of the mistakes we've made in the last however many years in the church is that we have gotten way too upset over our enemies. And we're not resting. I mean, we are, the sky has fallen. I mean, I've fallen into this. Doomsday prophet. You know, I mean, my kids say, man, you're always predicting the collapse of society. I'm like, but you do this and you worry about it. And I'm like, man, but God, God is bigger than all of that.

You read Daniel 2, and you go through these kingdoms that he talks about and the four kingdoms. And every one of them, according to Daniel's interpretation of that dream, what happened to every single one of them? They fell and they crumbled. They collapsed. Except for the one that he said he was going to establish in the days of the Roman Empire. And in those days, he says, I will. establish a kingdom that can't be shaken or destroyed. Yeah.

So it's, we have to shift our allegiance, our primary allegiance to the kingdom of God. And that's where you'll find rest because that's where God is. It's his kingdom. Well, look, and before we go to overtime, I just want to say, that's why he said in four four when he uses the illustration that on the seventh day, God rested from his work. He didn't rest from his work because he was tired. or he needed the rest. He was satisfied with what happened.

His purpose had been implemented. And I think it's the same thing. When people see rest, they're like, oh, we don't have to do anything. Well, you can't do anything. But you're going to work just like Jesus did while he was here with every passion, energy, and passion because of what God has done. It's not about that. That's why in Hebrew 6th, he's like,

I don't want you to be lazy. It's not about that. Oh, you're going to work, but you're in God's rest, and he's protecting you, and he's supplying the power. Yep, I like it. See it. Yeah, one more thing that we can end. Yeah, one more thing to think about.

Maybe we can talk about this in overtime, and he says here in Romans, I mean, Hebrews 4, he says, as I swore in my wrath, they shall not enter my rest, although his works were finished from the foundation of the world. You know why you can rest in Jesus? Because his entire works were finished before the creation of the world. There's a whole lot there.

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