Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 52 | Phil’s Foggy Eyes and Trippy Surgery

Episode Date: February 9, 2020

Phil is back from eye surgery and tells about his trippy experience. ase and Al bring up medical cases from the Bible, and the guys talk about the Wuhan coronavirus. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1  - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So I'm sitting there in a duck blind, and I'm monitoring. Everybody monitors their shooting skills, especially as each passing year comes along. So I'm monitoring my shooting skills, and I'm thinking, you know, there was a time when I would have never missed that duck. and the day the day that kicked something into high gear

was when I emptied my gun three times during the morning it was early, early on the morning. So this is nine shot. This is three times three. This is three times three.

This is boom, boom, boom, with ducks in range and none of them fall. You know what the worst part of that was is me and Chad were in another blind but we were watching. We could see you. You had an audience.

So I'd already come to a conclusion. I could be watching television and I could take this hand and put it over my right eye. And the biggest writing there is, you know, the headline. Couldn't even see that. So I'm looking with my left eye trying to just see what I'm seeing. And it's everything is a blur. Everything. Well, you take a foggy morning daylight in the morning.

and you're in a duck blind and your left eye, you can't see from here to that wall right there. Yeah, it's just like a... Dept perception. Plus, you've got to realize how far they are, your lead. Sure. So I'm sitting there. So during the duck season, the further it went,

I said, okay, I didn't hit 73 here, and old age has crept in. So I said, I told Ms. Kay, I said, I got back from that hunt where I missed the three times, boom, boom, boom, boom, nothing, boom, boom. boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, nothing. You know, I see a lot of other individuals go to the duck blind. That's the way they shoot.

I've done it. Oh, yeah. I said, well, I said, I've come to a conclusion, Ms. Kay. I said, get a hold of the eye people. And I said, I need to have my eye looked at, my left eye. The eye people. What's crazy is it? The guy had told me about five, six years ago, you have a cataract in your left eye.

He said, we'll have to watch that. At some point it'll get bad. some point. You can't watch it because you can't see it. Yeah. How would you watch it? So anyway, I'm a one-eyed man and a duck blind. And one-arm.

Almost as good as the younger bucks with two eyes. But I'm sitting here with one eye doing pretty good, but not good as I ought to be doing. So three-day, I said, book it for three days after duck season. Duck season ends and I said, okay. Now let's check out our shooting skills on how to fix it. So I go see the eye man. and he said, yeah, he recommended someone else to do the surgery, so they take your lens out because it gets cloudy.

The reason everything was cloudy is my lens is cloudy. So they take that out and replace it. What was amazing is they get you ready in two or three days for the ordeal. You go in there about 7.30 in the morning, and they go to prepping you, and you get out there, you know, they gave me a notice. They said, Mr. Robinson, we want to verify something. We noticed that you said you are on no medication. She said, we mean, you know, you need to tell us what few, you know, medication you have.

You got something going. No, I'm not, I'm not being medicated. They said, you take no, no pills? I said, zero. They're like, well, they said, well, how are you? I said, 73. And they said, and you take no medicine for anything. I said, that's correct.

I said, so what are you got, you got something lined up for me here? You fix the pour or something down me? She said, all you have to take is these three right before the eye man comes in. So listen, I now know why I don't take medicine because I looked in a little, she handed me a little bit of cup. And I looked down there. it was three pills in there. She said, take those. And she had another little cup.

She said, swallow them with this. So I'm like, what does this do? She said, well, it will relax you. I said, okay, here we go. Relaxation is on its way. I popped them three, and let me tell you something. And I'll wash them down. And I now know why I don't use pills.

Because within about 10 minutes, I was in a stage to where you're a wake and sound asleep at the same time. It's like a dream. I know I'm awake, but I can't move my, I'm like, whatever's in that cup. I now know why people will go to great lengths to find some of it and give them five gallons of it because I said, good, not a living. I wonder what it was. I have no idea, but I don't want to ever go back down that road again. I don't know how they come up with this stuff.

So I'm sitting there, the guy, I see the guy coming. He's got a knife in his head. And I'm just looking up. You don't even care. But I'm just, yeah. So I said, now I know why I don't get on this junk. I got, man. Yeah.

So he takes it out and it's like watching a light show. Like in your eyes. Brilliant colors. And I can feel that he's, he's working. You were like on a psychedelic, you were going back to the late 60. He's working on my eyes. What's weird is this? What, what, three days ago?

20 minutes. That guy says, Mr. Robinson, you're good to go. And I said, uh-huh. So I go in there. I thought you would at least have a... I'm still aware. And look, through that entire process,

they're cutting into your eyeball through that entire process, and I'm back there after it's over in 20 minutes once they started walking up every the night. I'm sitting there and they say, well, they unhooked me, they got the drip coming in me, they get all their stuff off of me. And old Dan was there with me, and I said, Dan, I can't see too well because I'm

woozy. So Dan drives me back here. Well, I'm glad you didn't try to drive. Look, at no time did I ever feel not even a slight twinge of pain. There was absolutely zero. I thought, well, that's weird. Within a couple of hours, those pills are worn off. And I've been sitting there.

Still no pain? No pain. I don't understand why they didn't give you a patch or whatever. I mean, they just said you didn't even need a patch. Well, you said a knife. Was it a laser? I say knife. I just could see he had something metal.

He had a piece of metal in his hand. I think it was a knife. Well, I don't know what it was, but how do you get into a man's eye and take the one lens eye to put another one in there? Jay's, you got to cut it somewhere. I don't think I'd use a knife. I'm just saying, I'm not a doctor. Whatever it was.

Whatever it was. He was on a psychedelic trip. But what I'm saying is, I got back. So I go in at 7.30. I'm out by 12 after the prep staying and all at. I still had the same shoes on I started with. I'm in my britches here. So I didn't have to disrobe and get under a sheet.

So I'm just sitting back, leaning back. He does the deal. I stagger out of there. and get back in the rig. We get home, and two or three hours later, I had to put drops in every three to four hours, ever since then, for about, you know, for two or three weeks. Oh, that's one of the reason why I wasn't hurting.

There's numb in your life, you know. Now it's making sense. But anyway, so I've just been putting drops from all over three hours for the last three days. So here it is Thursday. Can you see? It's good. Huh.

I'm looking here at my Bible, and the guy said, When we get done, he said, instead of you looking like this, look, now see if I put it right here, close. That's 1st, Corinthians chapter 15. Instead of like this, he said, he took a pay, and he said, you'll do like this. You'll do like this. Well, from here, a little blurry, here, all clears up. He said, you'll be moving your Bible away from me just a little bit to read it instead of bringing it towards you.

I said, you are kidding. He said, no. Well, you should have done this a long time ago. So now I went from a one-eyed man to now, I would say 20, 20. The medical technology has really just. What are you talking about? I figured, I thought they said. I thought they'd have it like a patch.

Well, yeah, we're going to do the podcast. I was like, well, didn't Phil just have eye surgery? And you're like, oh, no, he's good to go. That's he's ready to get out of the house. Three days ago, I had eye surgery. Look, the dude fixed it. And the next day on Tuesday, he said, come back up here on a look at the, the next day.

I thought, really? So I go back up there. He goes in there and he looks at it. He said, everything looks good. And he told me to come back about one more time. So he started monitoring it. I'm just being careful not to get in the woods, tear down through the fall wheel of limbs,

hit the upside head. So I'm just, I'm, as they say, which is what caused the problems. I hang low. I'm just not moving around. I tell you, it made me think of,

I realize these medical people, I don't know where they come up with these drugs and all this. I remember I had to do a colonoscopy. And, you know, I would only do. I got to do one this year. Yeah, I tried one time. Well, look, here's what I, the point I want to make. What stopped me was when he said, we're going up in there. I said, going up in there.

Look, they gave me. Explain that phrase, dude. Do you remember the, they gave me a, like a malt? And they said, we want you to drink this, you know, and it'll clean you out, you know. So I'm in the bed. I take a swig. I'm telling you, within five seconds. It was like, I got to find a commode.

And it literally lifted me off the commode seat, the power. And I thought, what kind of deranged mind came up with something? That could immediately. That you can be awake and asleep at the same time. That's what kind of mind. No, I did tell that guy, I said, let me take it. say, where you from? He said, Mississippi.

So he's from a little town over in Mississippi. I'd say he's about 45 years old. Give him a little plug here. He reads his name. But I told Reed, I said, Reed, after what you just did on a man's eyeball, I said, by the way, he had a little mold, and it was showing me how this works. And when he explained how vision takes place and what happens with your eyeball, Let me guess you get in the saltwater speech. I looked down that mold.

I said, I don't know what department it was out there in saltwater that dreamed up an eyeball. I said, but I said, read, I'm not buying it. I did a lesson one time. He said, you sound like that old Ben Carson because he's a brain surgeon. He said, if you look at a human brain and an eyeball, he said, you will say, no. Oh, I did an evidence. An evidence study on the eyeball.

I mean, this is the most sophisticated lens in the world. You think of all the cameras. Nothing compares to the eyeball. I mean, the nerve cross each other in your head. I'll look that up. This and go over to the other side. That one goes, I mean. I'll bring that up at our next time we do a podcast and give you some facts on the eyeball.

I mean, it's like. I'd like to see. Oh, yeah, we need that. Incredible. I mean, I did a little. Now I'm looking at that Bible. I can read it from this distance. It's just as clear as it can be.

And I'm telling you all, I hadn't had that kind of vision. in a decade. I don't know. Why I waited so long? Well, just till it got worse. So let me tell you brought Ben Carson. I met Ben Carson. I met Ben Carson.

I've met him myself. It's one of my favorite lines ever. It's so funny. It just shows that brilliant the man is. So we met him and there were a little group of us down there and he said, you know, he closed his eyes when he talks, you know, and he was like, he's a soft-spoken gentleman. A lot of people ask me, a lot of the press, would I be able to handle?

an agency as big as the housing urban development. Would I have the gravitas to be able to run an organization like that? And he said, and I told them, well, it's not brain surgery. Because he was a brain surgery. Exactly. I mean, I got so tickled. And he just said it like, you know, it's the typical Carson imagine. But I mean, we laughed and he-ho.

You're talking about a brilliant man. Oh, yeah. He's an awesome. Good man. Well, I thought about, and everybody is, you know, I'm looking at some of these emails we get in, but everybody's asking, oh, I had a lot of people asking about what I think about this coronavirus and, you know, what if the world, you know, the world, it doesn't take much for the world to go into just sheer panic. Meltdown mode. Exactly.

Yeah. Because they're talking about witches, look, it's tragic. It started, they think it started from bats and China. and there's some people got it, and people have lost their life, which, you know, who knows the stats. But somebody had an interesting article that I read that last year, just in the U.S., 34,000 people died from the flu, the normal flu. And I don't know what the numbers on the coronavirus is,

but they hadn't reached 34,000 people yet, you know. That we know of, right. Yeah. But it made me think of, you know, Matthew 8 and 9, Jesus was going from one disease and one sick person in one situation after another and having the power to heal them. And so when you think of all that, the panic that starts, and look, we all get sick and we have eye surgeries. And, you know, I know in the back of my mind, no matter what happens, we have something better than a miracle. you know, we have the one who is able to control the atoms and the molecules just like that.

That did make me think, I mean, not to, you know, take light of people losing their lives and you have different strains of viruses and all that, which I think is from the evil one, honestly. But I thought, who's naming these things, you know? I mean, is there somebody, where do they, I don't know, I'm just asking. I don't know. Probably out something as simple as, Joe, what we're going to call this one? Yeah, because I thought, well, they named the last. Was he drinking a Corona beer?

Well, that's what I thought. I thought, well, the last one they named SARS, which sounds. Bad, like AIDS. Oh, yeah. That was like 10 and 15 years ago. And this one, there's like, in my mind, I thought they named it coronavirus. I mean, to me, that's like there's three people in a room. They're in charge of naming new diseases.

And they haven't had one in so long. you know they're not prepared and somebody's like hey we need to name this and they look around and they see a you know a corona bottle and it's like coronavirus because I noticed something you know my wife and I've been to a lot of different countries and I've noticed there's there's always two things in all countries Coca-Cola and the signs that go along with it and Corona is that right every country you go there's a Corona sign and a Coca-Cola sign And every little corona, meaning it's everywhere, it's everywhere. I guess that's what to make it.

It says here, so this is just one thing, you know, it is on the internet. It says the virus's temporary designation 2019-N-C-O-V is neither catchy nor pithy. So I guess somebody just started, often the virus is simply called coronavirus. I guess because it's got a C-O-V in it maybe. So I guess it's just a nickname. You have to name it something. Well, if I give you a quick... I guess 2019 COV was just wasn't, you know...

I haven't looked up the root word for cataract. You know, you have a cataract. Until you told me that, I had no idea what that meant. It's a foggy lens. I was imagining like some sort of something had grown on your eye. That's what I thought. That's what I always thought when I heard cataract. This was like a...

It's like your lens is cloudy. And so they put a new lens on, basically. Put a new lens. Just like a camera. there camera guys i mentioned that matthew eight you know in the first section he healed a guy with leprosy you know and it's it was a funny line because when he said lord if if you are willing you can make me clean and jesus you know reached out and said oh i'm willing be clean and then he in the next section he healed someone who was paralyzed and they were going through terrible suffering that that was in

in verse 5. And then in verse 14, there was a woman lying in bed with a fever. He touched her hand, and the fever left her. And when he got to chapter 9, the reason I'm bringing this up is because I think it's an excellent point. In Acts 9, he heals, let's see, another paralytic. And he says this. At the same time, the teacher of the law is verse 3 said to them, This fellow is blaspheming because when he came up to the paralytic, he said,

Take heart, son, your sins are forgiven. And they're like, blasphemer. You can't forgive someone's sins. And so then in verse four, it says, knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? Which is easier to say, your sins are forgiven or to say, get up and walk? I love that question, which for the average man, we can say neither.

You know, unless you're a doctor and you perform some procedure and, you know, you can say get up and walk, but it's going to take some time. He meant immediately. But so that you may know that the son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins, then he said to the paralytic, which he's already forgiven him of the sins. But then he said, well, since you'll know why I had that authority, he said, get up, take your mat and go home. and the man got up and went home. And my point is the reason I love that story is Jesus put more emphasis on your sins being removed. Because if you don't have any sin,

you can have an eternal relationship with God because he has no sin. And then he kind of shows them why he's healing people. He's healing people so that you know that he has the authority to also forgive your sins, which is the greater issue with man. Right. I think you're right.

You know, if you created the human race just from dirt, and you breathe life into it, and here comes the human race, it would be no problem with disease, microbes, ailments of all. It's not a problem at all. He doesn't consider it a problem. Look, so it makes sense we were made in God's image. People can be trained well enough being made in God's image.

They can restore your sight. Right. I mean, they can do mighty things. Humans can. Well, if you're made in God's image, he gave you the ability to create cures, vaccines, viruses, eyesight, you know, these blind, two blind men were sitting by the roadside when they heard that Jesus was going by, they shouted, Lord, son of David, have mercy on us. The crowd rebuked them and told them to be quiet. Shut out by the time. Quit hollering at him.

But they shouted all the louder. I mean, they're blind. They're reaching. They're just hoping. They're just hoping. So, Lord, son of David, have mercy. Jesus stopped and call them. And he said, what do you want me to do for you? You know, like, Jesus. didn't know what they wanted to do. Lord, they answered, we want our sight. Jesus had compassion on them and touched their eyes immediately. They received their sight and followed him. So you look at these stories and you say, having gone through eye surge in the last three or four days,

you say, man, what about an individual who could just do it instantaneously? Because this didn't take but 20 minutes. man being made in God's image he gave him the ability to help their fellow man in the removal of all kinds of ailments and sicknesses and all of that interesting so you go over to Mark

I think it's Mark 7 or Mark 8 and there's a guy there and he's blind and Jesus makes a little mud patty he spits and he makes a little mud patty puts on his eyes then he takes him off and he said can you see and he says

well I can see but people look like trees so he was like you looking trying to figure so then he touched him a second time I was like oh there it is it cleared up so which I've always thought was one of the most you know weird healings ever bizarre so obviously he was trying my way I teach that is that

right in that context he's trying to get Peter to see what he's trying to tell him and it's like sometimes you got to get a second touch to understand I don't think Jesus had a power out He was always teaching. God doesn't make accidents. He's got him where he's looking at trees walking around like people. And the guy says, I don't know about this.

But it sounds like a little fine too. And what about now? And I was a spit on your fingers and say, why about now? Oh, that cleared her up there. Which to me was always one of those bizarre. And you think about it. And then being promised glorified bodies where none of this is, illnesses, sicknesses, tears, the problems you run into, you know, on your journey, on your

journey in life, not knowing whether you'll live for the next 15 minutes or not. Well, yeah, but my deal is most people, if they get diagnosed with some dreadful disease or, well, then all of a sudden they start, you know, then they want to come to Jesus. It's like they have the sickness that leads them all of a sudden. Why? To the sinful, you know, behavior, which is there's a tie in there, and I think they get it backwards. You know, if you realize that God has forgiven you and you have God's spirit, so you're going to be raised from the dead, it's guarantee. I mean, there's 100 verses that say that.

Then why are we that worried or why are we in pursuit of, you know, these physical miracles? I've never figured it out. I'm like, well, you have something greater than that. Yeah. Now, he, you know, in James 5, which is later on in our Bible, and we're dealing with people who are in Jesus. And he has some scenarios for, okay, you remember at the where it says, yeah, and we do this at our church today, which a lot of people are like,

what's going on? We did one Sunday. Yeah. It says, if anyone is sick, He should call the elders of the church, this is James 514, to pray over him and anoint him with all in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well. The Lord will raise him up. But here's my point.

The next verse says, if he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. My point is it comes back to the greater issue is your faith and your spiritual condition of your heart and your relationship with God. Because so what if the elders, you know, anoint you with all, and you are healed. You could go around and say, it's a miracle. It happened. That's not going to change anybody's life.

They'll be like, yeah. Okay, have another one on me. But let's say it really did happen because we've seen it happen. Sure. But we don't go around and preach that. preach Jesus for the remission of sins because that is the greater point. That is the point where everything else flows. Yeah, it's not wrong to pray for the miracle. It's wrong to think the miracle in and of itself is a bigger deal. And to prove your point, the young woman you're talking about

happens to be my niece, she and her husband have really been struggling spiritually. And so guess what has happened in their lives as a result of finding out you have breast cancer? It galvanizes that, wait a minute, we need to make sure we're right with the Lord, we're doing the right thing. So to your point, even though she's praying for healing and we are for her, the spiritual side is much more open, which brings a bigger question. So is disease and suffering and all the stuff we're talking about, is this from God? Is it from Satan? Does God allow it?

Does he cause it? Those are the questions people ask because you go back to Genesis. I always say, I think it's of the evil one because he uses, you have many examples of where he afflicted someone. You know, you think of Job, and he had the sores on him. And God allowed it. God said, you can do anything but kill him. And so he did it. He killed his family.

He gave him the disease. So I think he's the culprit. Now, whether God allows, you know, you have where Paul says, you know, the Lord. allowed for me to have the thorn in my flesh, but it says a messenger of Satan sent to torment me. So whether it allows it for us to get our head straight. And he wouldn't take it away from Paul. Of course, another one.

I think that it happens. I think our faith is tested in many ways. Right. And that's one of them. And I think he uses that in the broad sense. You know, if he performed a miracle, and if you saw one ever, 15 minutes, you would still have to believe that Jesus died for your sins and was buried and raised

from the dead. Right. I mean, it wouldn't change the message and where your faith is rooted, what it's rooted in. Yeah. Well, he healed this one, he held that one. You're like, I would still have to put my faith in his death, the blood that removed my sins, being redeemed, the power of the spirit given to me. Right. Well, you know, you brought up Job days. When you think about it, Job was questioning, because he's trying to figure out why this happened. So Job's mindset, what he believed, and we know this because his three dopey friends showed up, started making speeches, and that's what the whole book is about. And they're trying to figure out what Job did wrong to deserve the punishment he was receiving from God. That was their view

of God. They was like, well, you found and messed up somewhere. You messed up somehow. And so they just made speech after speech after speech. And finally, at the end of the book, Job is just like twisted and nods and he's like I don't and you read Job 31 he's like well here's what here's who I am and you read that chapter and think man I want to be that guy he was an amazing man which is why God trust him but at the end of the day God says are you me and then he has the little who are you yeah yeah and he was like you're not me so you need to just keep trusting and button up and of course I'm paraphrasing and that's exactly what Job did at the end of the day said you know what you're right I'm not you and then God says he restored his health he

restored he got you know he had more children he there was restoration but there was always the loss and god never told him why i mean he didn't in the book that's why i mentioned testing the testing of one's faith that's right that's a good example it's a great example i don't know why this story popped in my head uh because i don't think it's exactly the same thing but i think their response is the same and daniel three you remember the shadrack mishak and abeck and abe bendigo i just wanted to to share the what it says in daniel three you know they they come to king nebuchadnezzar and they say you know these these guys won't they're not bowing down and worship and the idols they're supposed to so it says furious with rage he makes this announcement that

if you do not serve my gods or worship the image of gold i have set up uh we will you know he went to the you'll be thrown into the fiery firey firey furnace. But their response is what I think our response should be when it comes to anything physical and anything happens to us. Anything challenges our life because that's what they were at. They said, uh, we did not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, this is verse 617. The God we serve is able to save us from it. And he will rescue us from your hand, O king. So, you think, well, they're just like, he's, go ahead.

We're, you know, it's not going to hurt us. But then they say, but even if he does not, we want you to know, O King, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of God you have set up. Of course, we remember what happens. Of course, that got him immediately in the furnace. They turned it, they turned it up. And then they look down there and they're like, well, wait a minute, there's four. Somebody showed up.

And they're walking around. In the fire. I love that story. It's like Jesus showed up. But what about some faith? I mean, they basically said, he's able to save us. And that's the way I view any kind of physical condition.

God, at any moment, can just go, you're well. We just read it, Matthew 8, not any condition. He just, from mud pies to, but if not, they're like, doesn't matter. I mean, we're fine. We're not worship. you we know because him being the miracle worker is greater than us bowing down to you a mere sinful man

and worshiping an image of the miraculous purpose whether it was in that era before jesus got here physically or it was in jesus era was always to point people to god that's right or to christ but how do we miss that in religion you know you hear all these songs and they're it's almost i mean i Chris, Missy always punches me every time I hear these people like, they're like, hey, we're, we're here today for a miracle. And I'm like, I got something better than that. That's not why I'm here. I'm not here for the miracle. I'm not chasing the miracle, which and religious people get upset because they're like, do you believe in miracles?

I'm like, well, of course I believe in miracles. Sure. Because God is the miracle worker. But there's something more important to that. And what he did through his miracles, which coming back from the dead is really the only miracle that, you know. It was the Trump miracle. Yeah. Not President Trump, the Trump or miracle.

Once that miracle happened, that pretty well superseded anything that could happen to me on earth. Because in the end, no matter if he cures my ailments or not, I'm coming back from the dead. So who cares? Yeah. I mean, they're like, oh, you got cancer. You have three weeks to live. all right, I'll be back. I mean, whether it's healed or it's not.

And like we say, we don't mind pursuing prayer. And we've seen some miraculous thing, unexplainable things happen. But we don't go around and say, let me tell you this story. That's what bothers me in the religious world. Everybody's telling the stories of the people being healed and they're leaving out Jesus,

who's better than that. Right. He has the power of doing that. Yeah. So, which is maybe some manics, but I think it's an important point. It's interesting because when you fast forward from Daniel 3, you were talking about it to the New Testament,

here's Acts 7, you know, a new Christian, a fiery, you know, man of God, Stephen, and he's just standing up for what he believes in and God allowed them to pick up stones and kill him. He didn't stop them. He never asked, but he was living that same thing. You're talking about it. He was ready to go.

Either way. And in fact, at the end, he looks up into heaven, says, all right, here we go. You know, we're ready for the ride. So, you know, it just shows you. And that's the formal, the formal introduction of the Apostle Paul. That's right. Who would be later struck down on the guy holding their clothes for him or whatever. While they're stoning Stephen to death.

He was the leader there. And here's, here stands old Saul. He's standing there watching it. And that's how God introduced him. That's what kind of guy he was. By the way, he said later on in some of his writings to Timothy, I thank Christ Jesus, our Lord, who has given me strength that he considered me faithful appointing me to his service.

Now watch, even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor, i.e. Stephen, his introduction, that's what, and a violent man. He said, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. So there's a lot of ignorance out there and unbelief, especially when it comes down to the power of God. He went on to say, The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

Here's a trustworthy saying and deserves full acceptance. Christ Jesus came into the world of saved sinners. We're back on his death on a crowd in the middle of this context of who I am the worst. He said, I'm sitting there holding people's clothes while they kill the sons and daughters of God. He said, here I am. And it's pretty amazing when you said what God can do. Did you ever watch the movie, The Apostle Paul? I never watched it.

You've got to watch it. You both have to watch that. It's on your DVR, tell Mondaf out of it. because I recorded it for you. It's what I love about the movie, Jim Caviesel, who played Jesus in The Passion. The Passion was good. And he's a hardcore Catholic believer, Cavizal.

He's great. He plays the Apostle John in this movie. And then there's a guy that I never heard of before who plays Paul. But what I love about the movie is it set right at the end of his life when they were about to kill him. And so the way the movie is set up is John comes in. He's kind of interviewing him because they know he's fixing to die. It's at the end of the house arrest,

and you've got all these believers running around. They're in Rome, really, really well done. But here's what got me about the movie that you don't get in the Bible, but you imagine it to be real. So the movie imagines it that all the guilt that he faced. And so the whole time they're talking, he's thinking back to Stephen and to others that he persecuted.

If he was an admitted blasphemer, persecutor, man. He was for to people. Pick him to write most of the New Testament is pretty ironic. You need to watch that movie. I was blown away because I had not seen it until just fairly recently. I had heard about it, but I just never watched it because you know how some of these movies are not great. I look back in my past, Al, and I see a lot of ignorance and unbelief.

That's exactly right. That was well said by him. When I looked at it, I said, man, there's a picture of my past. Exactly right, mine too. Well, it makes sense on, you know, you said, what does this have to do with the book of John, but you're going to get one miracle right after another. And when you try to dig into why Jesus was doing that,

because you start seeing the stupidity of people's response. You remember in John Fy where he heals the guy, and then they're like, well, wait a minute, you did that. But you told, you healed him, but you told him to pick up his mat. It's the Sabbath. You can't do that. I mean, the guy was healed. Everybody should be like, it's a miracle.

And they're like, well, yeah, that's all great. But now he has his mat that he was laying on for the last 40 years, and he's carrying it. Well, he broke seven. It's worth. So I don't know who you think you are, Mr. Miracle Worker. But you just think how ridiculous that is. It's stupid.

And that's why I'm saying this, you might not think that's important. it but when you you get that out of whack on why jesus used miracles the the big picture theme of what god's purpose is for us if you get that out of whack you'll be doing stunts like that you remember another example is the next chapter in john six where they he feeds five thousand with the what was it five bread two fish or two fish it was two fish five bread yeah so you're like well okay all those people are going to believe you're like well okay all those people are going to believe I mean, that'd been enough for me because I was a fisherman

and a guy who really likes good bread because I guarantee you if it's made from God almighty This was divine scratch This was a manna from heaven This is better than that You know that bread I was telling you about I called you the other night

No look that me and I were at some restaurant in Arizona Six years ago Yeah and I just woke up in the middle of the night Craving that bread Look it was in a black iron Skillet. Which is a good sign.

It's a good sign. Look, we, this is funny with me and Willie. We took a bite of that bread and Willie said, a waiter. And I was like, you know,

Willie, you know, what he's going to do. It's a fancy restaurant. He said, we want a reservation for tomorrow night. We hadn't even, we're five minutes into the meal.

We hadn't even had our thirst. Willie's like, we're coming back here, and you're chewing on the bread. I said, good call. Chase said, where was that restaurant we had the bread and the iron skillet and i was like uh where were we you know he's in

i think we're in phoenix so i started looking trying to find it i never did find it somebody in arizona if you're watching let us know what's in phoenix my point is jesus he does that and then when they came to him he said you're not coming to me because you saw the miracle you're coming to me because you want some more that bread and fish that's right i mean it was like what can we get out of it That's our mindset. It's like we want God as an insurance policy. You know, if something bad happens, maybe he can get me out of a tight spot.

Right. But or give me the benefits of having God on your side, which you just think people wouldn't think that. Well, you're right, Joe. The book of John is basically seven major miracles, or I'd say major seven miracles that Jesus does. And each one of them has a point beyond the miracle. which is why John's such a unique approach to his story,

because he doesn't just cataloged Jesus' life what the other guys do. He was very purposeful in making sure here's a sign, here's what God did, here's what Jesus did, but here's what he meant. And you get to John 9, and we've talked about this before, there's a guy there that's blind. And so as they're walking by him, the disciples say, look at this poor sap, you know, and I'm paraphrasing, but basically they tell Jesus they said.

Well, they're like, who's fault is. Yeah, who sin caused him to be born blind? And so they were going back to Job's friends of retribution, see? I was in the eye clinic, and when I walked in there, I saw one of the brothers over there, and he waved at me. I went over there, and I told him, I said, he said, what's you in here for? He said, if we're in here because, you know, my wife has a cataracter, yeah, me too. I said, every time I try to keep it as rare as possible.

But every time I walk into one of these clinics or one of these medical outposts, you know, hooked on to the hospital, they picked a check. I said, every time I come into one of these places there, I said, look, the resurrection looms larger. And look, when I said that, there was about an 85-year-old woman, Cedar Doma left, and she was like, well, that better. Well, so dad goes up to one of our, I think they're former members at our church. And he goes, I guess you recognize his dad shakes his hand. And he's like, you know, you know, age is creeping up on us. Yeah.

And the guy looked all like, like Dan was telling me this story, he looked like, what? And then he said, well, what did you say? And he said, I thought you said AIDS is creeping up. Oh, because you were in the hospital. Yeah. And the guy's like, not me, you know. He's looking at dad like that. That was crazy.

I was like, well, that's what happens when you get old. That's right. Nobody can understand what the heck you're saying. Well, that's right. You can't hear. You can't see. Look, this is the first year. It's creeping in.

He said, what? He found all AIDS. It was creeping in. Well, look, this is the first year in the duck blind where, look, on several occasions, I would be like, all right, here they come, on the right, y'all get ready. And when I look down, everybody's just like this. Nobody heard what I just said. But he's 20 feet away looking down at the floor.

And there's six men in between you and the speaker. And he's saying, y'all, get out right quick. I said, I think they're just saying that because they're saying, well, we alerted y'all. You just didn't hear us. So look, the next day, and we had this argument, the next day I'll just look up some ducks. Look, it literally sounded like a plane crash. It just, whew! And I heard splash, splash, splash, spank.

And look, Phil went, bang, cram, cram. He bludded. I'm looking. I'm like, because you're trying to be quiet. Then they get up. My buddy's like, why didn't you say something? I'm like, oh, boy. It took me about that time

Whereas the more the years go by It's kind of like when you The guy down on one end Can you hear me now? Well you're trying to be quiet So you're trying to pass a word down the line So we've got old men with hundreds of thousands Around shot next to their head

We were tilling a couple years ago And Jay said We got And so I saw there were two teal that went by We had teal and dad's like he's on the other and he said how many and just said bam bam bam pat you nobody said and they said how many and nobody said

how many yeah and then we all fell out laughing because he was mad like we were ignoring he thought we were ignoring but we were trying to be quiet well so I guess this is what we call this the medical episode well I think we needed to introduce the idea I mean you're not going to be able to go through the book of John and handle all the miracles without getting the reason for it.

And in our own lives, we look up. I mean, look, every other day you have some kind of medical condition by somebody. Oh, yeah. I think the lesson that we should learn from our little conversation this morning, you got the Apostle Paul. He said, I have this thorn in my flesh. I've asked the Lord to remove it. I mean, Jesus struck him down personally, gave him a job, you're going to reach the Jews first,

then the Gentiles turn them from Satan to faith in me, and he knew he was as close as you can get to God. And he said, I have this thorn in my flesh. It was some kind of ailment. The Lord said, no, he said, I'll just leave you with that. Well, I think there he was making up. So my take on that is this. If you believe there's a resurrection of the dead, if you really believe that, whether it be cataracts on the eyes, in my case, my ailments have been prostate,

let's say kidney stone, prostate, and my eyes. That's it. Everything else, rock on. So I'm thinking I'm very fortunate. Two or three things, which weren't that big a deal. I take it all whether they said, well, you've got incurable cancer. I would say, bless the Lord because of the resurrection. Because any way you look at it, it's going to come down to that.

And he may heal you and he may not. But either way, there's a bigger picture is what I was trying to. What we experience in Jesus, what he did on a cross and his resurrection, trumps everything. It does. And we find in our weakness sometimes and we're really low, that is where God's power flourishes. When you see somebody that has every reason to quit.

When I see mighty acts and people that they say, this, like the little kid a few years back, his last wish was to see me. We went around, I took him around on the tractor, and the little kid is still with us. And they said, it's incurable, he's gone. Well, he's still running around on planet Earth. And I look at you, so how did that make you feel? I said, well, it didn't trump the resurrection of Jesus. because the little kid, hopefully he'll live a ripe old age, you say,

but he's still going to have to have. Well, and guess what else? God may just call you up like he did Elijah. I mean, you might just be, I've kind of in the back of my mind. I'd like to go that way. Like a whirlwind. I'm just walking in a wood squirrel hunting and just, shoo, I'm like, whoa, where am I? Yeah.

Come on up there. He has done it before. Yeah. So. Well, so anyway, good episode. I want to thank all the listeners and watch our podcast is growing, which means you're telling people. about it and we thank you for that. Keep your questions coming in. I remind you two things.

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