Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 522 | Jase Calls Out Hollywood & Phil Recalls Robertson Domino Games

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Jase points out the one huge movie trait that shows Hollywood filmmakers are unable to create what they do not already know. Al finds an old table that reminds him of Robertson family domino nights, and Phil explains the different rules for trash-talking your brother and your uncle. Jase jokes that he represents the most "non-educated" person in the family. Al laughs at Jase's stories about growing up in a different era from today's kids.  Sign up to watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed Go to https://UnashamedMerch.com and use Code: Unashamed10 for 10% off and BlazeTV Subscribers get 20% off with the Code: BlazeSub - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? I didn't realize how bad it was until I put these on. Instant relief. If you're going to sit there and pontificate, you don't need to have a vice on top of your head. No, you need to be in comfort. That's right now. I feel it just a just, it's just, misery, misery. I just thought you had to live with it. Well, I was.

Oh, I mean, Missy even brought it up. The worse it gets. Missy even brought it up when she says, hey, quit griping about you being tired and your head hurting from having earphones. I'm dealing with this baby all day, but she, in passing, this was on a bad day. She actually mentioned that I was griping about my ears hurting. I mean, I think she thought that was ridiculous, but she didn't realize. Well, not many people sit around. and I'm shocked that people actually are listening.

Not many people sit around and pontificate for two hours. Yeah, that's true. Hours sitting at one spot, two hours. You're talking about an elongated sermon. Well, it's because we come up with all these deep thoughts. I mean, during the break, because if people don't realize we do two podcasts in one session, But they run them with days in between. Is that not right?

Right. Okay. That's correct. I'm making sure. So. I didn't think America, I'm surprised that many have turned down to listen. Yeah. Well, what they didn't realize that I can reveal breaking news that, and I had my head

in a vice because the way my head is constructed. So for months, I've endured pain while I'm talking. So if it seemed like I was in pain, oh, I was. And then in 10 seconds. they just gave me a smaller pair of earphones and all the pain went away. I'm like, why didn't we do this two years ago? It's better to speak without pain than it is with it. Yeah, but there's a spiritual principle there.

I think they thought that you're better when you have a thorn in the flesh. That's what Paul said. Yeah. So they're like, let's give, let's put him under pain. Clamp them. Yeah. And so that God's power can go through the pain. So, Jay, to complete that verse, then,

So for two years, you complained. And you asked for God to relieve this from you and our crew. Yeah. And they said, your suffering has made Jesus' power perfect in your weakness. So that's what's been. Then they finally spent 1999 on a smaller pair of earphones and all the pain went away. 20 bucks. Well, and let's face it, we recognized it because I'm down here at the Southern Lair.

And so I've got a small pair of pretty cheap actually headset from Sony, but they just fit over my ear. And so my ear's not hurting. And so I've been thinking about your long laments about your suffering. And I thought, well, you know, my ear's not hurting at all. So that's what started there. Of course, Dad, you'll have to get yours next time. Yeah, whatever. Your head's still.

But see, that's why this practical, y'all were talking about the lack of degrees earlier. I mean, I have a degree. and hunting and fishing. A master's degree. There's no piece of paper that says that. You're the recipient of, and the giver. Yeah. I gave myself a master's degree in hunting and fishing.

But if you're the, if you've got a master's, that means, dad, you've got to be a PhD because you are our instructor. He does. He does. Along with his other master's degrees that he actually. actually has some authentication on. Do you see me throw that word in for you? Authentication.

There's different degrees of smart, but I've always said that knowing Jesus in a personal way makes you among the elite when it comes to smart and intellect. But I've never moved past for everybody's information just out of keeping things calm down. I've never moved past the belief that I'm about a C plus man. The plus means something. The D and the F crowd is right behind me on my heels.

On our, A's and the B crowd, they don't have anything to do with me. But get him out of here. As I pontificated on in the last podcast, because of Jesus' claims, which were proven to be true, even though we believe it through faith, and his character,

that makes you an a plus because his power and his character is above all others. And we have access. That's what Hebrews is about. How about that intro? That's pretty good. And look, we were also, can I throw something else in? Because I wanted to get this out. Because I realized the ramifications of our no-skeleton principle that we brought up last podcast,

which I think, I mean, I'm looking for that shirt to come any day now. No skeletons. Jesus, no skeletons. In the closet or in the grave. But that doesn't mean that you're not going to get your body back. It's just going to be a new imperishable body, still a body, First Corinthians 15. I want to make that point, and then I want to make this point. I want to give a PSA to Hollywood.

As smart as they claim to be, as many movies that come out, have you noticed that every villain, takes a form of a human. Every space creature takes the form of a human. There's no creativity there. They all have eyes, ears, or some form of that. Yeah, and they worship and serve themselves instead of the one who made them. So my point is you can't create what you don't know.

Yep. they claim it seemed like you could come up with some form of a creature that's not like us but everything they do is just a better version of us they try to make human characteristics that are superhuman So it, but they get all that on what Jesus already has. Right. So just, just go through the super superheroes. What do they all do? It's a human form that does superhuman things, God-like qualities.

Either he's imperishable or even the silly stuff. Remember the, the movie where the guy couldn't lie? Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. You're quoting. He couldn't lie. Well, it's impossible for God to lie. I wonder where they got that idea from.

Yeah, you just quoted Romans 122. Although they claimed to be wise, and they do, they became fools. And exchange the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man. And birds and animal red, well, they do that. They use the birds, animals, and reptiles, too. Every movie, they have to have a character. Flying men, you know, flying men. Have a human form, and it's always about good and evil, if it's any good.

Yep. Well, why is that? Because that's what we're created in that image. Yep. Yeah. So it's just every movie is a different version of that. And they say, yeah, but you want to see evil, we'll show you evil. It's the same stuff that's going on in late night bedrooms.

and all the movies now are one big blood fest yeah i mean the slatter house it's a slaughterhouse just everybody getting slaughtered yeah because somebody or they figured out how to make it look realistic yeah or you have the talking animals you know talking animals a giant lizard you know this that and the other it's always some kind of animal human hybrid quality yeah yeah do that. But again, it's all made from God's creation, which is a, that's a strong point. Yeah, the lack of creativity is amazing. Yep. Yeah. So, Dad, you mentioned, I mentioned this and she brought it up about being a C plus man, because I hadn't mentioned it while. We have a book called C plus gospel, which is basically just to

Jason's point, it's showing what Jesus did from the viewpoint of the witnesses, which is what makes than really A-plus guys, but we call it C-plus gospel. You can get that at C-plus Ministries.com, and then also your daily feel is out now on wide release. And so you can get that at Amazon or Books of Me and Hobby Lobby, wherever you get books. And so we want you to check that out too. I hadn't mentioned that in a while.

And the good news is I've run upon a lot of people who, if they tried to get an education, they left school early, whatever, and they didn't even go through junior high. but I've known a lot of good men and women who had no education to speak up. But they were very godly and they were very loving, joyful, peaceful individuals. Well, let's face it, Dan, the vast majority of humanity since Jesus was here and left to go to heaven, the vast majority of human beings are not educated. I'm talking about around the globe.

That's correct. And so it's a very small percentage anyway, even through time. And think about how many great sons and daughters of the Almighty have been here since Jesus was here. So to your point, you don't have to have education or high degree of intellect to be able to embrace who Jesus is. That's why, as Jay said, his disciples, they were described as unschooled and ordinary men. What made them special is they witness Jesus, you know. and saw what he did and then told us about it

2,000 years later. Yeah, that's why that character matter. I mean, look, the last movie I watched, which is a new movie out, and it's PG-13, so I guess, you know. But it was called The Grey Man. Have you seen that? Uh-uh.

Don't waste your time. Here's the problem. This guy was shot at, I would say, I want to be fair. I would say 10,000 times during the movie. shot at that many times 10,000 times he was stabbed i would say at least 20 times he was shot at 10

000 stab he that's one he fell out fell out of a crashing plane he jumped out of a crashing train onto a car that was going i'd say at least 100 miles an hour and who and survive while being shot at. Yeah. There were grenades. Yeah, there were grenades shot at him. These pump guns, just all kind of nuclear.

It's kind of like that guy on that movie, hard to kill. This is beyond hard to kill. And so, you know, as I watched it, it just, I mean, Missy, we started off watching it together, and about halfway through it, I looked up, and Missy wasn't there anymore. She never came back.

I mean, we was watching it in the living room, you know, I saw her getting some bottles ready. I was like, maybe you go watch the movie? And she said, no, I got it. But I just thought to myself, like, when we'll come out with a show. Did we ever kidding? No, no. But it looked like he was dead.

Yeah. But you can't kill him. And it just went on and on. But was he presented as a normal person? Or did he have some kind of super, was he like one of the immortals or one of all these movies? Look, it was some kind of. It was the very thing we're talking about. On the last podcast, when we talked about, you know, back in this day, when you have a ransom,

it was basically prisoners of war who would get the pay, the only way out if they lose the war, they become a prisoner of that country that conquered them. And we talk about Jesus offering his life as a ransom. Well, this guy's in prison. Now, they basically deemed it like a justifiable homicide. And if you think I'm ruining the movie for you, I mean, you can watch the previews, and I'm not telling you anything

that you don't know that's not fixing to happen. We just don't tell them how it ends in case of money. Yeah, I'm not going to tell it. So he's freed from prison if he'll work, you know, for the government. One of these days,

we're giving you free, where do they get this idea from? Oh. Bible. So he's been redeemed, and look, and then he became indist. And so here's what I'm, I said all that to say this.

Do you know what the number one accusation for people who don't like us or our shows? So I have a show out, you know, 10 episodes, and it's, they put it in the reality genre. I didn't put it in the reality genre. Somebody else did that. And so people who don't like us and probably haven't even watched the show, what are they say. They said, well, that's all staged. Oh, that's fake.

It's all fake. And I'm like, well, what about the gray man? I tell you what, we're a lot more realistic than what just went down there. You can't get the guys jumping off of an exploding train by being hit by some nuclear warhead. And he's great. And he got up and said, ouch. He actually did that. I'm like, oh, what, what am I supposed to do with this?

How am I supposed to wrap my head around this? And then I'm out here digging up treasure that I have no idea what I'm going to dig up. And we dig it up and we have a conversation. Nobody said. I'm finding. I'm finding stuff that we did not know was there. And then we have a conversation about it. And Peter said, boy, that's all staged.

I'm like, no? No? It happened. I know it just seems like you could make these characters up in life. I think that's what people say. They're like, there's no way you look at Uncle's eye. You can't make that up, in my opinion. But they're like, well, it's so crazy.

Well, it must be made up. So they're just trying to take what we have as far as the movies, the lack of originality. And look, they really come up with something crazy. So actually, I'm saying the real thing is actually. My youngest boy and you and Murray Crow who was converted to Jesus and Sive, veteran, they just regalo guys. They are hunting under the ground stuff to look at this. So I don't know.

We could call it the new, we could call it the new gray men because you're all indestructible. You cannot be killed because of Jesus. So there you go. Yeah. Let's take our first break. I mean, I didn't, you know, I'm not hating on. Great man. I'm just telling you that was, I mean, the only good thing about that experience is that it was free. But go ahead.

So I want to, I want to reset, because we're about to, we're about to do the last section of what I call the Hebrew writer's argument for Jesus is better. Jesus is superior. This last section is 10, 1 through 18, because then we're going to pivot, he does in verse 19 for the rest of the book and basically say, here's the. application of what happens when Jesus is better. So I want to reset before we jump, dive into 10, 1, 4. We read it on the last podcast, but we didn't say a lot about it. Dad's got some verses too. He wants to share. So just to recap, Jesus is superior to prophecy. That was the first chapter, first three verses. Jesus has appeared to angels or really any other beings. And that's chapter 1 through chapter 218. Jesus is superior to Moses, meaning the law, 3.1.

through chapter 4, 18, Jesus is superior to Aaron or the priesthood, and that was 419 to 728. Jesus has appeared to the Old Covenant, that was Chapter 8, and now this section here, we're about to end of the last section of it, Jesus has appeared to any ministry or any sacrifice, because, you know, he goes into the idea of what sacrifices are, and so that's what we've been talking about under the new covenant. Well, you know, this last section. When did you come up with that? That was pretty clever.

Yeah. Well, that was, I came with that 25 years ago, but I'm just now resharing it. Oh, okay. That was my. So the point is, Jesus is superior. That's the point. And or in your, in your word, Jesus is better. Either one of those, which is good.

I remember, so. I don't know. I don't know. I had this one, one childhood memory popped in my head. So since I represent the most non-educated person of our outfit or family. So there was a saying when we played Domino's when somebody made a really good play. Do you remember what the saying was? That we'd say.

It usually would come with a slam. It would slam it with high intensity. Slam it. Well, every time somebody accused you of being lucky in Dominoes, somebody would say, no, that's not luck. That's just superior playing. So I remember, As a kid, I went and this memory popped into my head here today.

I remember looking up in the dictionary, the definition of superior, because when they said that, I had no idea what they were talking about. I was like, super. I thought he said super plate. No, superior, superior. So I looked up the definition and I was like, ooh. But then it had the opposite and it had inferior. And you probably remember where I'm going with this.

So I thought, oh, I got an idea. So the first time my partner made a dumb play, and they, you know, were grap and I said, that was inferior playing. But I said that to my grandpa because I was doing a joke from the, when you play good, a superior play. And well, he made a dumb play, and I called an inferior playing. And so Phil, after the game, called me up and he said, hey, if you call your, your Paul inferior again, I'm going to whip your.

but and I was like inferior must be a really bad thing to say but I didn't explain the joke because I was like we have a saying that's just superior plane you remember that saying now or does? Yeah yeah I remember it so I said all that

but Jace you just described in our childhood the fine line that you and I walked by being youngsters at the adult domino table because there was a lot of trash talking going on, but we had to watch ourselves because we crossed the line of disrespect

if we got too much into it. So that was, you described the fine line that we spent most of our children. Honor your father and mother. Well, I know. So we had to temper our trash talk. 40 years later, Phil, I'm telling you that I actually was not trying to be disrespectful.

I was trying to be funny. Yeah. Because I was trying to come up with the opposite slogan Some jokes backpire on you. Yeah. So the definition of Superior, which is what I was trying to get to, is higher in rank, status, or quality. Then you ran upon the coaches that were coaching you,

and they were just strapping it on, all them little boys. You know, they'd get them back in and they play dominoes. Well, they went over and asked old Jace. They said, did you ever play dominoes? He said, I played a hand or two. So Jace, they asked him to join them, and Jace strapped them fives on them and just smoked them like slamming it down.

And they're saying, well, what are you doing? You said, can you play? No, I can't play. You said, well, shut up. Boom. He took all the coaches and just fleeced them. And they never invited him to. No, they actually did.

That was the funny part of the story. Because it impressed him. Well, I had to be up there because I had missed off. Shocked them. I had to be up at school on a snowy day. I think Western Ohio's got, what, 2,000 students. And there was like 12. people there. And the 12 people there all had missed the maximum amount of days. So I, even,

they didn't call school off. So I had to be there because I couldn't miss another day or I'd take, you know, 11th grade over whatever year it was. And so the coaches and teachers were there in about 20 students. So we got into a domino game because you can't play dominant, well, three-handed is doable, but it's better when you have partners. And so they were just looking for a live body. And that's, that was my introduction. But yeah, I actually played three times in a row because I realized nobody else could play. But they're, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing there, son? What?

I was like, so then I did the classic take the domino off. Can you play? No. Can you play? That's what I thought. Boom. Slapter. Can you play now?

Oh, still can. Bang. I hit again. But in that moment. That scared him. Well, then they were grinning because they were like, well, wait a minute. Now, he said he played a little bit. He's been playing his whole life.

Because you got the double slam. Yeah. You got to do it twice. About a week later, I get the, I'm in an accounting, which I didn't like. And the intercom comes on and says, can you send Jason Robertson to the office? So I go to the office and they said the coaches need you to help them. They got some project. I was thinking, what in the world am I?

I was trying to deny. I wasn't even there. I don't even know. Well, I walked in, and there was three of them sitting there, and they said, hey, sit down there. So I thought, now we got something going. Yeah. They're getting me out of accounting to play dominoes. I like it. I like it.

See, and that's why I said there's different degrees in life. Yep. In that degree, whatever degree that is, that's the one I want to. You want them over, Jay. Actually, actually, Jay's, you have swerved into, or you in that case fell into. the ultimate education because whether it's high school, college, whatever, building the relationships that matter outside of just what you put into your brain, that gets you further in life than anything else.

And it helps you understand the Bible. Yep. You can know this backwards. I bet you a domino game that out of all the school systems in the United States of America, how many of them have the coaches and some of the people that's going to school there, playing dominoes. I'd say that would be very rare. They're probably having a meeting right now after they heard this.

Oh, yeah. And wait a minute. Yeah, don't let that get started. Oh. Well, that's why I was good at math. It was a little different era that Jason I grew up in in terms of, you know, what you could and couldn't do is teachers and coaches. The greatest thing for children, yeah, the greatest thing for children that a mother and father can introduce them to,

when it comes to addition, math, adding up 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, making them good at counting, at learning how to count. Math is to teach them how to play Domino's. I agree. I learn what it means to be unselfish in Domino's. I mean, size has been playing his whole life, and he never figured that out. That, you know, he's going to run his hand no matter what. And it's like, it's a losing proposition.

If you're going to play dominoes and you're the last man to the domino, people who don't play dominoes don't understand that. And you're going to run your suit. You're going to lose your entire life. You have to be unselfish. You've got to say, okay, I got to realize where I'm at in the batting order. I see more of my partners going. Yeah, I see. And I'm going to sacrifice what I have because I realize where I'm at.

It's kind of, to use this as an example, like if it was like a poker game, we're playing cards, it's like where you're position, position when the betting comes. If you're what they call on the button, you're the last person to act. So it's the best position because you can look around and say, okay, you have a better view. Well, in Domino's, if you're the last man, whoever downs it plays first, the last man to play, well, he's in the worst position. So you tend to want to be sacrificial and play with your partner. Yep. If he has a hand.

And gigantic hostility can arise when you don't do that with your partner. I've seen a many of many a yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to start confessing our sins here. Yeah, I've said more things being disrespectful in those moments because that, you know, side just would make me so angry. I'm like, you're playing your hand. You're the last man. And to the Domino, forget what I had.

Just cut my stuff because you can only see what's in front of you. And so what I'm saying is there's a lot of spiritual qualities that come out and dealing with conflict. Because sometimes unlike Domino, I mean, unlike other games, Domino's is an unmastered game. Because there's so much subjectivity amongst the hand. It's so different every hand that you just have to kind of make some. calculated guesses about what your partner has or what you think. So it's like... I'd like to meet the individual who came up with the Domino game.

I'd like to have met him. I'd like to know when that actually started. That was a great game. Hang on. Let me just take a break. Yeah, I need to research that, Dad, because you know one of the things I discovered when I was trying to buy me a, find me a Domino table that was like the one that we grew up playing on that was grannies because it was the perfect wood.

because dominoe if you slam dominoes like we do what would your plan on is very critical to the health of your fingers bones and hands we've had we've had a cherrywood table oh there's fingers broken tables broken domino's broken and and which look i think though as an aggressive competitive male i love the fact that i had a game that we for the most part can't kept inside the game. What happened in the game stayed in the game. And even then, y'all allowed us to be even trash talking disrespectful inside the game because it was just considered to be part of the game. Kind of like I mentioned about poker, lying is part of that game.

You can lie. It's part of the game. You're not really lying. You're like, hey, I got the best hand possible. Well, you really don't. That's just part of the game. You're representing that. And Domino's, I love the fact that I could,

take out some aggression and slam dominole. I can validate my point because now you're attacking not only the numerical aspects of it. You're getting into that gray matter. Speaking of gray man, I'm slamming that domino and I'm seeing my opponent crumble. As a boy, you say small towns in this great state of Louisiana had domino parlors. That's where me and went to play dominoes. man on it and i walked in there and with some of my kin folks and my uncle was playing dominoes the the cigarette smoke and cigar smoke was so thick that you couldn't even it was just a

well that wasn't anything different from our game no it wasn't oh my goodness that's right when missy the first time she came down here on a date she opened that door and because i said let me show you the pool hall and i kind of laugh you know I opened the door, and she said, I'll wait for you outside. She would not go in because it was just a fog. That's right. And look, here's something I just, Domino's land. Here's something I discovered I didn't know when I was researching looking for this table

is that dominoes are huge in like Caribbean countries, like Dominican, Puerto Rico. And so when I would visit those countries. South Florida. South Florida, because of the immigrants. And also, guess where else? New York City. because a lot of those folks immigrated there. And so that's awesome.

You know where I found my cherry domino table? New York City. Really? New York City. Yeah. New York City. And that was why. And so look, the last time I went to Puerto Rico, I looked out and there was a group of men. It was a bunch of them.

And they were sitting underneath, it's kind of in a public area, underneath this big tin roof building. And they had about eight domino games going. And dominoes are slamming. Of course, it's all Spanish. So I'm not understanding it. But it sounded. look just like it did in the living room.

Oh, it turns out. That's pretty cool. It's global. It's one of the few games. I never would play for money because I would say it takes something more valuable than money. You know, it can take a piece of somebody's soul. I would dare say. Literally.

I would dare say there's not as much domino playing these days as there used to be. That's just what I think. No, we revived it a little bit at my house because. Because Sy comes over sometimes in Stone and Phillip have learned how to play. And they're not quite as good as me and Sa, but they've gotten pretty good. I would say that was a generous assessment of their status. I mean, I'll play it over a couple times.

I don't know. It's hard to play a game, though, when you're playing when people don't know what they're doing. Yep. It's a thin line between a great game of dominoes and what they call chicken scratch, which is people who take the domino. No, yeah, chicken foot. I called it chicken scratch. Chicken scratch.

Well, there's a story there because Missy said my parents play dominoes. I was like, well, there's finally something we can do together because, you know, they got yuppie tendencies. So I go over there, get ready for the big domino game. I was like, who's going to be my partner? There's like, no partners. I was like, well, how are we going to play individuals? And they kept talking about chicken foot. And I thought, what?

And so I called it chicken scratch because I was scratching my head wondering how this caught on. You just match the domino to the end. Basically something a four-year-old could do. If you have a six, you match it to the six. And if you're lucky enough to find a match every time it's your turn and get rid of your dominoos for somebody else, you win. That'd be no fun. Yeah, I never went back. Yeah.

There's no slamming and chicken scratched at it. There was no slamming. There was no adding. It was basically just the equivalent of you putting up a poster and you saying chicken. Yes. You were just matching. Oh, that's horrible. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

If you play that game, great. I know some people that play. that, yeah, it's just not our thing. All right, let's take another break. All right, so Hebrews 10. We read this last time, but I wanted to dive back into it, and I want to read it again with these first four verses. Because I know Dad did some looking into this idea of blood.

You brought it up a little bit in the last podcast, Dad. Yep. The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming, not the realities themselves. That's been consistent through this whole section. Now, remember, this is like his last finale. So he's basically now given his proof as to why Jesus is better. For this reason, it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year,

make perfect those who draw near to worship. So in other words, that was never going to work the sacrifices. If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? In other words, if that could work, we'd still be doing this, but we're telling you there's something better. For the worshippers would have been cleansed once for all. and will no longer have felt guilty for their sins. There's that conscience, Jay's.

But those sacrifices, and catch this one, are an annual reminder of sins. So forget about taking your sins away. It's actually reminding you that they can't be taken away because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sin. And so, Dad, you had some verses on that? Just, and they are way more than what I just. wrote down. Romans 3,

verse 24, he just got through saying there's a righteousness from God, but now, apart from law, which would correspond with the Hebrew, has been made known

to which the law and the prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There's no difference. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory God.

Verse 24, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice, going to the book of Hebrews, a sacrifice of atonement. Atonement is the one who would turn aside his wrath, taking away sin. How? Through faith in his blood. So you start reading all these texts going into, that's Romans 3, verse 25 and following. Romans 5 through 9, hope does not disappoint us because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit whom he's given us.

That's when you're baptized. You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man. Someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this. While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Now, what's this? Since we have now been justified.

The first one says, the first verse I read over there, the Romans 3, it's a sacrifice of atonement through faith in his blood. This said, we're justified. by his blood how much more shall we be we be saved from god's wrath through him so you begin to read all these verses and the more you read you go from romans well to your point before you read the next one you know that god's demonstration of his love while we were still sinners christ died for us which is which is in contrast to what most religious rituals would produce this is saying God values you on the cross at your worst.

He loved you and valued you at your very worst, which you can find very few people on the planet. I mean, maybe outside of your wife or kids, who will just show any signs of that. But that's what's different than you trying to be your best, never able to pull it off through some kind of ritual. Therefore, when you get that, Hang on, Dad.

Hang on, Dad. Before you read that, I want to make another point about the word you just said, justified, some clever person somewhere years ago, because you said, what does it mean to be justified? He said, it's just as if I'd never sin. Yep. I mean, that's what Christ did for us. He made it for just as if I'd never sin justified. So when you read the Hebrew writer, what he had to say, a shout out of just these things,

you can't, this reason, it can never by the same sacrifices repeated in any list a year. after year make perfect those you draw near to worship. The blood of Jesus does. I'm just giving a few verse. Ephesians 1, verse 6. Jesus writes in accordance with his pleasure and with to the praise of his glorious grace, which is freely given us in the one he loves. You say, how did it all come, what did it come down to?

In him, here it is. We have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sin and a accordance with the riches of God's grace. He lavished on us with all wisdom, all understanding. He's made known to us the mystery of his will. Just faith in Jesus and the blood that was shed for you. And animals couldn't do it. It's impossible for the blood of bulls and ghosts to do this.

The reason why is this is too expensive for the animal world. It's the blood from animals is not worth that much. but God turns on the one who created the Cosmo himself sent Jesus in human form he became like his brothers in every way God sent him to become like humans so he could bleed that's the only blood that can get you out of here alive that's Ephesians 1 7 Ephesians 212. Let's see. Therefore, remember that formerly you were Gentiles by birth called uncircised by those who

are called themselves the circumcision, Jews and Gentile, that done in the body by his hands of men. Remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel, foreigners to the covenant of the promise, Gentiles were in abiding, without hope, without God in the world. but now in Christ Jesus you who were once far away well what do you know you have been brought near through the blood of Christ he himself is our peace making the two one we can become together under the same Jesus but the blood of Jesus is there for the Jew and the Gentile

whoopee thank you father in heaven and look this just goes on and on and on and on. Colossian 1 20. Let's see. Through Him Jesus to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things that heaven. By making here it is making peace, redemption, atonement, peace, making peace through his blood. Shut on the cross. So look, you got more if you're studying this. There are the listeners, Colossians 120. Hebrews 9, 12 through 14 is where we started. Hebrews 9, 12 to 14. Let's see.

He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves. No, sir. He entered the most holy place once for all by his own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. He's working all this up to chapter 10. We're in chapter 9. for with his own blood having obtained eternal redemption, the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkle on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them

so that they're hourly clean. How much more then the reason Jesus is better? Will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit, offered himself, unblemished to God, it'll cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so we may serve the living God. Finally, the complete removal of sin. And he goes on to say, verse 18,

that's why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood, and he ties it all together in the last of chapter 9. Just as man is destined to die once and to face judgment, Christ was sacrificed. There's the blood again, once to take away the sins of many people. He'll appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation.

And then you get to chapter 10, and his opening three verses is, it's impossible for the blood of bulls and ghosts to pull it off. Not the blood's not powerful enough. God himself had to bleed. He's the one that chose to do that, not us. But I'm glad he did. Yep, we all are. Let's take our last break.

So you're right, Dad, and it was interesting. You know, you talked about Atomat, that first word. you know, he mentioned that sin was actually remembered, not forgotten, just by those sacrifices. And Levitica 16 on the Day of Atonement, one of the things they had to do is they had to take a goat. You know, the term scapegoat, we'll say somebody's a scapegoat, meaning that, you know, they get the blame for somebody else. They would take a goat, and it was called the scapegoat. That's where it began. And they would send that goat out into the desert.

and that goat was representative of all the sins of Israel that went out. So it was there, but it was just held over for another year until the day of Atonement. That's why it could never take sin away. So I thought that was interesting, even as another shadow. God came up with a horrific example, horrific on one side, but great love for the human race when he said there's only one way for this. them to have their sins removed. It's by my death for them, go through death from, which it's upon them too. And by my death, I'll give them eternal life.

Because three days after I die, I'll be resurrected from the dead. It's the wildest story I've ever read. He provided those clues all through. Look back at verse 5, the next section. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said, And then now he said when Christ's going on the world, he said, now he's fixing a quote what Christ said. Way back in Psalm 40, actually through the mouth of David, who wrote the song, sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me. We talked about that, Jason, the last podcast.

With burn offerings and sin offerings, you were not pleased. So even back then, he's saying, this system is not working to take away your sin. then I said here I am it is written about me in the scroll I have come to do your will oh God so it's a it's a prophetic prophecy about Jesus spoken back in the days of David but he actually then the Hebrew go ahead well I was just going to say subtly too he's he's showing you the difference when you said you send out the scape scape go well you see that in verse five it said therefore when Christ came into the world I mean that's the difference in sending an animal out, which is the equivalent of, you know, if you're trying to

figure out some kind of a vaccine or whatever, you know, people, they test on animals first because they're like, well, I mean, even though we love animals, it's better than, you know, it's better to sacrifice an animal than an actual human. I mean, most people with common sense still believe. Are easier. Believe that. Well, I mean, it's better because humans are more valuable than animals. So that's my point.

But Jesus came on purpose to die for us. It looks like if the Jewish people today would read the book of Hebrews, I can hardly believe that they wouldn't see why Jesus is the way, the truth. the resurrection eternity. I mean, I just would think. Well, that's what I'm saying. You're a Jewish listener. That's what I was saying about last podcast.

This is more than information or a concept. I mean, this is a story that was premeditated love that knows as rank as you are, the power of it. It's not that Jesus just died. He died for me. I mean, all of a sudden, it becomes something that it's just not a command or it's not an instruction. It's a story that yes,

is woven through history and has evidence and it has instruction and you have the pattern of the law and the shadow. You and Gentile, it brings them together finally under one head. Yeah, but it's while you were talking. I was looking up that story that popped into my head, and I had it wrong. That's why I'm glad I looked it up. But it's like every once in while on Earth, you see some unconditional love or sacrifice by a human that moves us.

Because I thought about that story of the plane that took off from New York. It was in a look up the date on when that happened. But they named the bridge after one of the passengers because it crashed. at a bridge, they hit nine cars that were on the bridge and kill five people on the bridge. And they were 704 passengers on the plane and all died. I think it's D.C. in it, Jay. Yeah, but it took off from New York.

And they named the bridge after one of the passengers because it crashed in the Potomac River, which was iced up. Yeah, I remember that. And they sent down the little basket from the helicopter. But this guy, Arlin Williams, he was the most he was the most active person

because you can imagine it's just debris but he would he would grab a hold of it but then somebody else would come up he was he was you know putting other people and so he got four other passengers and one crew member on

and then the last time they sent it for him he had drowned and so it was moving because all these people were watching this on the bridge and so you saw this one act of a guy who could have saved himself. I mean, nobody would have blamed him. I mean, the planes crash.

You're in an icy river. So for him to do that, it's probably been one of the most used illustrations. Talking about Jesus on a cross, because there, for one moment, you saw a guy choose somebody else. He chose life even in his death. That happened. And, of course, that's why they named the bridge after him. because it was like, and so that's why I'm saying, it's like, you know,

you're seeing the shadow of this, but the actual act that Jesus did when you think of the practical history of that and the walking, you know, his whole, he came here knowing this is how it's going to end and to have impeccable character during that entire journey is just almost incredible. I mean, he came here to die for. I just think that somehow you got to, you got to not just connect the dots of he revealed the shadow or he is the reality of the shadow. But the power of all this is that he actually took on a body and lived one day at a time, 33 years, to allow this to happen. And unlike that guy, because verse 14, I'll stop right before he read this.

Because by one sacrifice, He, Jesus, has made perfect forever. Those who are being made holy. Makes you perfect forever. I'm like, perfect forever. Man, the blood of Jesus. Well, the point I was making is that from verse 5 because it said, I mean, he came. He did this on purpose. This was all a plan.

This was just some weird. thing that happened in history where just all the end from the beginning. Yeah, that all the dominoes lined up, you know, and he just said, hey, no, this was, this was a plan by the creator of the universe enacted, and he came here to do that. Consistent all the way through. We're out of time. I want to flesh that out a little bit more as we kind of close out this last kind of proof text in chapter 10.

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