Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 534 | Phil's Funny Dreams Keep Miss Kay Up & the Most Entertaining (and Cocky!) Man in the Bible

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

Phil recalls listening to Led Zeppelin in his troublemaker years, and Al introduces the cockiest person in the Bible. Jase remembers being pursued by a woman and relates it to the biblical story of a servant who rejected his master's wife. Phil keeps Miss Kay awake at night with his wild and funny dreams! Jase talks Missy and their sons into watching a movie that he highly recommends to the "Unashamed" audience. And Jase discusses the severity of sin and how transformation happens.  Go to https://UnashamedMerch.com and use Code: Unashamed10 for 10% off and BlazeTV Subscribers get 20% off with the Code: BlazeSub Sign up to watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're back. Unashamed podcast. We did some pretty good rabbit chasing on our last podcast. We thought we were going to get to Ebruz 11, but you took us on a long journey. It all started with a golf bag. You got to understand the theme.

That's true. That's true. I mean, the danger of going verse by verse a lot of time. is you lose the context in the situation, and the next thing you know, you're arguing over things that was not the intent. That's a great point. But Hebrews 11, I mean, what's our synopsis of the book of Hebrews?

What do we go with? First 10 chapters, you would say, Jesus is better than any other system. And I would say these last, when you get to 11, 12, and 13, basically he's like now that we know Jesus is better let me just show you how much better he really is so it kind of to me it kind of gets personal but what's interesting is he starts that out with this concept of faith when he gets chapter 11 but then he just goes down the old walk through memory lane about these great people that trusted in Jesus before they ever knew about him which is kind of the whole point so you know that was the i would say kind of the shadow aspect of but that's come to this point. Now he's going to actually name names, and that's where we get into these guys. Well, he actually quoted that Habakkuk in,

is that how you say that? Habakkuk. Yep, Habakkuk. In Hebrews 10. That's a good name you don't hear people name anymore. Habakkuk. Good luck with that. He quoted him in 10, 37, 38,

because he said, The righteous will live by faith. and we shouldn't shrink back. And so then he's like, okay, let me explain faith, which, look, I'm telling you, we've been talking about it for about seven or eight podcasts, but I think it's needed because it is, I think a lot of people tend to think, especially non-believers, this is just faith is just some, like, you know, buying a lottery ticket and hoping you win. That's not faith.

Think about it. You're reading through the list of the Hall of Faith, and you know God is merciful when he just threw in by faith the prostitute, Rehab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient. I mean, he's protecting prostitutes under the gist of faith, what it is. So, you know, this thing about, you know, just for certain select group and on now, it comes down between. It's so funny you said that, Phil, because I read, because I read these commentary sometimes just to see what they think.

Well, you say the prostitutes. Well, yeah, that was one of them, one of the guys. I mean, I didn't hear it. I know what you're going to say. Yeah, well, they, so they look at the Hebrew word when she was referenced in Genesis. Yep. and it could be the word in Hebrew could be like innkeeper or hostess. So they're like, you know, not necessarily.

The problem is this Greek word used in Hebrews, oh, it's a lady of the evening. And that makes people feel uncomfortable. And I don't know why because I'm like, well, Jesus himself, how many times did he, I mean, you remember the woman in John 8, which they say, well, in some of the manuscripts that wasn't there. He's not that forgiving. Then you got to Luke 15.

I'm like, why do we have, why do people have a problem with just inserting their performance into the grace of God? That's the problem. Our salvation's not built on that.

It's built on grace. It's better. Way better. Yeah. The person who wrote most of the New Testament, New Testament, his sin was killing Christians. Yeah, plus it alleviates. That's about as bad as it gets.

So, and it alleviates the thought is that it's impossible because you can be so sinful that you say, well, if you look carefully. I mean, it makes people uncomfortable, and I get it. And, I mean, you know, and you take it to the extremes where you got people locked up in prison for the most heinous crimes. And you say, what do you do? Well, you preach Jesus to them. And there are consequences for that, and there are reasons to hate these type of people in the sins they committed. But you got to remember, it's our job to share Jesus that's the only truly transforming thing that can happen to a person as far as, you know, forgiveness and a new beginning. I mean, it's just the truth.

Samson got into, you know, a hair detail. I mean, well, Samson was peculiar. But look, I mean, you know, I know. I know we're going to look at these in detail, Al, but I mean, I thought about this Jephtha. I don't know if you, did you name Jep after this guy? We did. But, you know, when you think about his story, I believe I have this one, right? I mean, I didn't research it, but wasn't he the one that he prayed to God that said,

if you'll deliver me in this battle, the first thing that comes out of my house when I get back, He was probably thinking about a lamb or a goat. I will give as a sacrifice. Sacrifice. Well, then his daughter walked out. I mean, when you read about Jacob and Esau, that was dumb. And I kind of defended him just because not that it wasn't a dumb thing to do to sell your birthright for a bowl of soup. But I've done a lot of dumb things before when I was hungry.

You know, and I mean, I get it. It was a dumb thing. But now this here makes that look like nothing. That's right. Of course, a lot of the Bible scholars, because they have trouble wrapping their head around. So, well, he, you know, he probably didn't actually sacrifice his daughter, but just like sent her to a convent or whatever where she couldn't marry or, you know, it was. But, I mean, that's what these commentaries say. And my only point is to say, we don't have to come to an agreement with what actually happened.

We realize one thing, God's grace is deep. Oh, very. Because all these people, look, have a problem. But guess what? I got a news flash. All these people doing this podcast, we got our set of problems and issues and people. And everybody listening, we're sinners. And God's grace is what corrects that.

And he uses flawed people to spread the news of his son. I mean, that's just the way it is. Yep. Well, and it's actually one of the greatest tenets of truth about the entire Bible, because what other stories would be told, especially in the religious world of any kind, where the heroes of your story and your book are so flawed. I mean, nobody would, nobody would do that. I mean, you know, like Jesse. I'm not going to save all them people at their sinners. Whoever's pointing the fingers, their guilt is charged as a long.

with anybody else. Yeah. We all need redemption. Look at King David, you know, I mean, one of the greatest, you know, people in the entire Bible. He did all these amazing things. But he also did some of the most terrible things. Oh, that's horrible.

Even Noah, you know, post-flood, you would think, you're like, what? I mean. That's right. Yeah. Exactly. But to Dad's point, that's why they're in here. And, you know, I talked earlier on the podcast. We're down to in 21 and 22 of chapter 11.

And we talked about Jacob and Esau that Jace mentioned before. One thing I didn't mention, Jace, I wanted to mention that I left out when we talked about Jacob is I didn't mention that he had a dream in Genesis 28. And, Dad, you'll love this because the dream was a stairway to heaven. We've talked about that before. With your old pals Led Zeppelin, you know, made a song. call that. But what was amazing was, so in that dream, you know, God reaffirms his promise that he made to Abraham about the land, because where Jacob was when he was sleeping had this dream, he was like, this land is the land that's going to, you know, be here for the people. But this was all going to

happen in the future. And the reason I want to bring that up is because when we get to Joseph in 22, who was one of Jacob's sons, he is a dreamer. I mean, he's got this same, but he, his dreams are even deeper. I mean, God is communicating to him, but he's only a teenager. And like most teenagers who are gifted in whatever it is, they probably don't have the maturity in how to handle that giftedness. Have you noticed that, whether it's athletes or they get a little bit cocky when they're good at something.

And I think that was part of Joseph's makeup, which is kind of interesting. Let me read what it says in the Hebrews. And then I want to go back and talk a little bit about it. Joseph's life because in my opinion, Joseph is one of the most interesting stories in the entire Bible. And he has a lot dedicated to him as well. Before you read that, I was just going to make a point. I made this, you know, probably a hundred podcasts ago.

But, you know, you brought up about that Jacob's dream, the stairway to heaven. And I think what's significant of that story is in the way God uses those stories and the way Jesus did to connect all the dots through, you know, thousands of years of history, is that you remember when Jesus called Philip and Nathaniel, it was one of my favorite interactions in the entire Bible. Oh, Nathaniel was up under a fig tree. And, you know, when Jesus came, this is in John 143, he found Philip, you know, he said, follow me.

And then Philip, like Andrew and Peter, was from the town of Bay Seda, and Philip found Nathaniel and told him, we have found the one Moses wrote about the law and about whom the prophets also wrote, you know, talking about Jesus. And you remember what Nathaniel, he was like, Nazareth, can anything good come from there? I mean, he was like, there ain't no way. This is the son of God.

So he's having some faith issues. And so he said, come and see, which is actually the hat. That's why I'm doing. Actually, the hat I wore. And I had no idea that I get, you know, because the chosen did a bit about that, you know. Yeah. Because what, what a, that's really reaches everybody. Because when people question faith or religion, you're like, come check Jesus out.

Come check him out. So he does, but he don't believe he's the son of God. And so, so then when, when Nathaniel's. said, well, how do you know me? Because Jesus said, well, here's a true Israelite in him there's nothing false. And he said, I saw you while you were under the fig tree before Philip called you. Well, he probably thought he was alone. You said, what's this got to do with Jacob's dream?

Because look, you're making the implication, and I got this from McGuigan, which, so I'm, you know, I feel pretty confident about it. So it wasn't that he saw him under the tree. he then told him what he was thinking about. And what he was thinking about was that stairway to heaven because he said, Nathaniel declared, you're the son of God. And Jesus said, you believe, because I told you,

I saw you under the fig tree, you shall see greater things than that. I'll tell you the truth. You shall see heaven open and the angels of God ascending and descending on the son of man. And that's where he gets that reference, because that was the quote from what he saw. So he was basically bridging the gap, the bridge in that gap saying, you know that stairway?

I am that stairway. I'm the ladder to heaven. And so I just think when you read these stories in Hebrews 11, you know, oh, yeah, okay. He had a dream. He was wrestling with God, you know, and he saw a stairway. Well, Jesus is the stairway. By the way, that's basically what he says, Jays. of God's the love of the word.

He sent Jesus. Whoever believes in him, puts faith in him, won't perish. But have eternal life. God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world. That's what Hebrews 11 and 12 and then there's all talking about. But to save the world through him. Yeah. Whoever believes in him is not condemned.

But whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he's not believed in the name of God's one and only son. This is the verdict. lights come into the world but men love darkness instead of light because of deeds are evil everyone who does evil hates the light and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds to be exposed well the Hebrew writer's exposing all these sinful things that happened in the hall of faith crowd for whoever lives by the truth comes until the light so that what may be seen plainly that

what he has done has been done through God. Basically, he's saying, look, don't ever tell me you're too sinful to be saved. Just read what I've told you about that. Well, it's a struggle that we all go through. We all go through it. We need a break? Yeah, let's take a break. No, that's a great point.

Well, I hijacked your thought. But I just, you know, I think when you read these stories in Hebrews 11, And they just seem like names on a page. But then when you think about how those stories of faith were used even in Jesus' ministry, because, you know, here you revealed something that we all have dreams. When you think about how much we talk about dreams, I mean, especially, Phil, you've had some of the craziest dreams I've ever heard. And somehow you remember them. Miss Kay says the same thing.

She tells me I jump around on the bed. I mean, you know, I'm... Well, how would it feel? I'm running, I'm hanging by one arm on a cliff. I mean, there's a 10,000 foot drop. I mean, it goes through my head all the time. I get up swinging, knocking around, Ms. Kay, she hollers, I calm down, you know.

I said, well, what was I saying? She said it was unintelligible. I couldn't. It was just. So what I'm saying is, what would happen to you? If you read about somebody's dream, you are under a tree by yourself just reading and then a guy walks up who says you know the the story you were reading about the dream that happened a couple thousand years before or however long it was that was me you're like wait what i mean that's basically what he did and i just thought you talk about a fascinating and by the way to add to that jace this is same picture you see speaking of dreams in revelation that John got in Revelation.

You know, this idea that Jesus was the bridge to the other realm. And you have angels there. And then there's, but now that he paints a picture of their, the people of God are there as well. And you're right. It's fascinating that we go all the way back, way back to Genesis 28. And I already described to you Jacob's life. I mean, his name meant deceiver.

And so he hadn't got to that tipping point yet, which happened for him later. And yet he got to look at the vision of Jesus, even where he was. It's so exciting to me. I mean, to me, this is what I love about the Bible and getting down deep in the weeds of it all. Because you see things like this. And it's just hard to describe that to a person who doesn't believe that, like, one day I'm reading my Bible, and I'm reading what somebody thinks about it. And I'm connecting these dots because when he gets to chapter 12 and gets real practical when he's like, all right, so we're surrounded by all these witnesses.

We need to fix our eyes on Jesus. Well, it's a lot easier for me to do that when I realized that he called Nathaniel and he went back to Jacob's dream and there's a rock song out there talking about the stairway to heaven. And I'm like, you really want to know about that song that guy sang? It's the basis of where he had that crazy idea. I don't even know what that song is about. But I know the reality of it that here's Jesus coming and saying, I'm the stairway and I'm on the same earth that you're on. I was here.

It's documented. It's a historical fact. And that is the bridge to bring me to God and where I can live forever. Well, I mean, that's one of the most exciting things I've ever pondered on. which by the way to stay in that theme of John, that's why Jesus said before Abraham was born, I am, because he's always been here.

I mean, this idea that only when he became a human, no, he's been around. He's the same yesterday, today, today and forever, which is pretty powerful as well.

All right, go back to Joseph. Sorry. Okay. No, that's a good, see, that's a good rabbit,

Jayce. I like it when you go down a road. Well, that's one of the things I get, I mean, it's just, to me, that if I was a new believer or whatever,

and I ran up on. I mean, it would just be so encouraging. It would make me feel more firm in my faith, knowing how much this is really connected over thousands of years to bring God's scheme or redemption to light. Well, I'm glad I remembered to bring it up because I'd left it out when we were talking about Jacob last time because it really was a huge deal.

I believe somehow that was probably linked. So I told you the story. So Jacob winds up marrying four women and he really only loved one of them. which, by the way, is another great reason to not have polygamy because it's just a bad situation. That's another sign of God uses this. I'm married one, but I can't even fathom being three more come along. Exactly.

So what happened was. I mean, yeah, a thousand? A thousand. Yeah. And if you want to know how he fared with that, go read Ecclesiastes. That's a uplift. It's kind of depressing. I think that's one of the most misunderstood.

Versus ever. He's like, well, he didn't like women. Hey, look, marriage is tough. You marry a thousand women? That's impossible. Miss Kay always says to me, she says, you know, if I die, you know, there's going to be some women come after you. I said, let me tell you something, honey. I said, one is enough of me, one, you.

I said, I'm not going down that road again ever. I said, you can rest easy on that. I said, I don't care. She looks like a hundred million dollars. I'm out. Nope. Phil put a dad in. and Phil put a dad in sign on his road.

That's it. Don't call him if Miss Gay goes on to her reward. So anyway, so he's got 12 sons. But since he really only loved deeply one of the wives, Rachel, so two of the sons, which happened to be the two youngest one, because she was barren for a long time, are the ones he favored, you know. And so Joseph was that next to the last one.

Which probably wouldn't be right. I mean, you know, you're supposed to like trade them all saying. Right. Well, exactly. I mean, it was. It was a bad situation. And look, what's interesting is, I believe, see how this backbiting and negativity in this family as they're getting older. So now Joseph's a teenager where his brothers are quite a bit older than him because they've been around for a while. Well, guess what? They hate his guts. And it's in like you said, Jay's, not that that's right, but it's kind of understandable why they don't like him so much. I mean, he's doted on he can't do anything wrong i mean you know no offense but me and my brothers there was a

time where if i would have looked up and and someone said your brothers they've sold you out of the family it wouldn't have shocked me and i i concurred that if anybody would have been sold into slavery out of us we would have sold jays because he's always been the the most different but before but but so anyway so what happens is is he has, he's having these dreams and they're coming from God and they're prophetic. So he's able to like, he's looking into the both near and far future. And the first ones he has are his brothers bowing down to him. Well, you know, I told you before about the quote when the guy says,

what happens when your life exceeds your dreams and the guy tells him, keep it to yourself. This is one of those situations, this is one of those situations where, You know, I mean, he didn't know any better. He's 17 years old. When he tells his brothers, you know how that goes over. Not well. And so now they're like, we got to do something about that.

So they were going to kill him. They just decided they were going to murder. There's always a cover up. When you do something terrible and then the cover up, how long did the cover up last years? Years. Yeah. That's exactly right. But they were actually now, you're going down a road, which is what,

What sinful behavior and sinful decisions? That's how it happened. Plus, there's a lot of friction I've noticed among families worldwide. A lot of friction. Yeah, because we're all flawed. I mean, it's just where you have flaws, you have these kind of situation. And I would say a lot of friction, but I would say within our family structure, it's been amazingly calm and peaceful.

I was just saying. Well, I was actually going to brain that up, Dad, because, you know, You know, like Jay said, we fought when we were young. But, you know, as brothers now, we're all adults. We're all patriarchs of our own family. Everybody except Jeff has grandchildren. But the one thing that we kept solid through the whole process was that we weren't jealous of each other. You know, it didn't matter.

That's correct. We had every opportunity to be jealous because we had a national television show. Some people are making more money than others. But through the whole process, I just remembered that I want my brothers to be successful. successful. And I think that bond is what held us together through everything we've done in our lives that we would never wind up like this crew did. Anyway, you're slice it, Al, the Robertson clan, you're the oldest. Jay's right underneath you, Willie, Jeff. Everybody, in my humble opinion, has done remarkably well why they've been on earth as far as financially, spiritually, I'd say,

you know, boys, I tell you what, you're not all family groups could say that. And I'm serious. Let's take a break. I contribute that to a lack of jealousy because jealousy is a very dangerous gateway sin that usually leads to a lot of problems. Or envy. You know that James 316, depending on your translation, says, for where you have envy and selfish ambition,

there you find disorder and every evil practice. I mean, just think about that statement. You can trace it back somewhere where it all went off the rails to selfish ambition or envy. Those are powerful, powerful, destructive qualities that lead you into sin, you know what I mean. And then cover up and whatnot. So wasn't it, is it impedeer,

somewhere first or second, Peter, when he said, do not show favoritism? Am I getting that right? I'm not sure exactly where that is. But there's a verse that says, do not. James. Or maybe that's what it is, James.

Well, you have several that says God does not show favoritism. Right. Yeah, I can't remember exactly where it is. But the concept, the concept when you think about it is what led to the jealousy here was favoritism, which is why the Bible tells us don't do that either, because that just sets, you know, the, I guess the recipe for the disaster that happened to this family.

But again, back to the point of your jasha overarching point that God is always in control, God's going to use this whole situation and all this sinful situation to bring about his plan. Because the whole point was to get Joseph to Egypt, because that's where the nation of Israel was going to be born, was in Egypt. And so to do that, this whole process played out in the lives of these people. So while you're looking up that verse, I'll tell you the rest of the story. So Joseph, the oldest one, which is always the oldest son that at least has a little bit of wisdom, which that's true in most family. But the oldest son says, look, we're not, let's don't kill him because that would kill our dad if we'd kill him.

So let's just sell him into slavery. And so that's, so that's what happens. They went up selling him into slavery, which was, I guess, some. could argue it was as bad as death because now he's off to some foreign country and he's just a teenage boy and he's only 17 years old at the time yeah it was james it was james two one where it says brothers as believers in our glorious lord jesus christ don't show favoritism of course then he tells the story about somebody coming in with shabby clothes and of course you know we're we're but you do it in families and in restaurants and look i'm i get embarrassed sometimes

Because as famous people, we get shown favoritism at times. I told you, when I was on vacation, I went to this restaurant. We pulled up. I'd already felt like I'd got a sign from God that that's where we need to eat because everybody I asked where to go. They're like, go down here. And so when we get there, they're like, well, it'll be an hour wait. I was like, okay, that's fine.

And so when I went back through, the girl who was doing the, whatever, the reservation, yeah, the hostess, she said, oh wait, are you Jace from Duck Dynasty? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, well, I mean, can I have a picture? I was like, sure. One minute later, my thing went off for my tables ready. She said it's going to be an hour. It was about 10 minutes, and it was a minute. And I thought, ooh, of course, I went and took it. But still, I thought, maybe it didn't make me feel bad. You know what I mean?

Just because she recognized me. We got, and Mrs.'s like, what happened? And I said, I think we just got bumped up in a batting order. I was like, should we just say no? And Mrs. is like, what are you crazy? And I thought, well. You're not showing favoritism. I knew there was a verse in the Bible.

Well, I don't know. You know what I mean? Because it's like, because people there who were coming in before me, they're like, well, how did he get bumped up? So I didn't know what to do about that. I mean, I'm confessing my sense here. Go sit down and eat. I don't think you're saying. But anyway, so favoritism has set the stage.

He's sold into slavery. And so what happens is he winds up getting more dreams. that predict a famine that are going to eventually get, you know, the people in his people into Egypt. But a couple of things happened that I wanted us to talk about today because I just found them fascinating. The first one was he was, he was, he wound up in a, he obviously was gifted. And so he winds up, you know, being in the potter's house, which potter was a high up official in Egypt. So, you know, this guy was a big, big deal at the time because he was right there. He was Pharaoh's right hand man. And so he winds up being in his service. And he does so well. And there's

something about him. Obviously, he has the favor of God on him. He's getting these dreams. And so, Potipher recognizes that and puts him in charge of everything. Now, remember, he's a teenage boy. I mean, maybe a little bit of time has passed, but he's not that old. And he puts him in charge of everything. Well, the problem is the Bible says in Genesis 396, he was well built and handsome. And then the master's wife, Mrs. Pottaver, took notice of him,

was the way it put it. And then for days and weeks after, she pleaded with him to go to bed with her. So here he is. He's imagined this. Now he's a young buck. Which is a hard position to put a young, I mean,

you said a young boy. I would say young man. He's a teenager. Yeah, a young man. Yeah. Correct. But so, right. So he's,

so think of it. So think about it, though. He's in this position. He's, you know, she's the, the, his boss's wife. And look, she's probably had this situation before. This isn't her first rodeo, I would guess. This is the first time Joseph showed up because, you know, Potipher's not there. And so she's sleeping with the help.

That's what's happening. And everybody probably knows it, including Potipher. But, you know, he has every reason to do this and be justified in his own mind because she's the boss and I'm a young man and she's she may or may not have been a good looking woman. But you know what he said, which was incredible? He tells her, he says, my master has put me in charge of everything in this house, except for you because you're his wife. Now, this is a teenage young man that has figured this out.

And then he says, how could I do such a thing and sin against God, which now we're getting into why we're reading about it in Hebrews. because as a young man who had this going on, had every reason to do the wrong thing, he just said no. And so, Dad, you mentioned this a few podcasts back.

So she grabs him one day and says, oh, you're going to bed with me right now. And he left his coat. If you have a, when you said whether she was good looking, there's no doubt she was good. You don't get in that position in that day unless you're fine.

And you, You're used to having whatever you want. And when you have selfish ambition like that, then whatever you supposedly can't have, well, that's what you've got to have. I mean, look, our society, this is, we're getting into what's going, this is replaying itself thousands of times today.

And so I think that was the driving force. I mean, look, I remember when I was dating. and the finest looking girl that I ever pursued, I actually, when I got to have the conversation, well, she was nothing like, I thought, even though she, now, she is fine. But, I mean, she just was not a likable person. And so then I was like, oh, I'm out.

Well, she didn't seem interested in me until I said, I'm out. but she was the type of young woman who you don't say I'm out to because nobody said I'm out. So then she started pursuing me. Then she started scaring me. So I get it because it's like the greatest thing I could have done to win her affection was to say, I'll never be with you, which is eventually what I said. If it was me and you and the population of the planet depended on.

She couldn't believe that. I'm going solo and dying off into the sunset. It ain't going to happen. You went to the, if you're the last woman on Earth, I mean, that's pretty scorched. Well, that was my ghost to. Hang on. Let's take a break. But what I'm saying is that actually, well, I thought any woman on the planet, once you

make that illustration, that's it. You know, they're feeling they're hurt. Oh, no, that was like pouring gas on a fire. Yep. And so I learned my book because when I read that story, I realized that's what you got going on here. I think obsession happened then. You don't tell me no. I run this place.

And I'm giving you. And the young books that have fallen victim to that, they are a mighty throne. I'm saying you line a thousand guys up in a situation and there's probably going to be about 995 of them that are going to say, let me take a look under that their blanket. Yeah. So that's just the truth. That was a reference to the outlawed Josie Wales, if you don't know what that reference was. You got to watch the movie if you're going to listen to this podcast. So you're right, Jays.

And I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. It made him more alluring because he said no, because he didn't. So she tried to force the issue. He runs off literally out of the house with his coat in her hands. Which was bad because now you have evidence. She has evidence because these people, when you take on that kind of situation, it's why it's so difficult. Oh, yeah. And I mean, it's in our society even.

I mean, it is just a lot of businesses and people in power, they use people wanting to be successful and to move up the ladder as a way to exploit them. Yep. And especially sexually, usually it's the other way around with men, you know, towards women from what I understand. But in this case, it was actually a woman trying to take advantage of a young male employee, you know. That's right. And then, and of course, if you'll, the bottom line is if you'll sleep with the hell, then you'll also lie, which is what she does. She goes to Potipar and she says, look, this person you brought into our house, he tried to rate me. Oh, yeah.

Now she's going to pay him back. How much does that happen in our society? I mean, you know, all you need is an accusation. I mean. That's right. So, but here's my, here's my take. I think Potifer, because if, if they had followed what would have been the law in that day or even just the common tradition, he would have been killed for that. If Potipher believed him, he dies.

Oh, yeah. So I don't. So I don't. So I don't. He knows. He's probably, you know, not being. A flusy. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, can you imagine him? many times that played out in their relationship. That's right. The reason why I think that's true is because Potipur takes Joseph and puts him in the king's prison. Now remember, this isn't just some place down here with a riffraff. This is where people go that are in the court.

So he put him in a place of protection, I believe. And you say, well, what's the difference? You're in prison. Well, I mean, he's already, you know, enslaved to these people. So, you know, one place as good as another. when he winds up in there, well, again, he's talented, he rises to the top. And he runs up on these two guys and then basically interprets their dreams. Word gets back to Pharaoh and that's how he gets the opportunity.

But here's my point. 13 years go by in all this process. And it finally gets to a point to Joseph at some point in prison where he's like questioning, is this, is this? Because he loves God, obviously. But he went through this process for 13 years. years before he got the opportunity to finally get before Pharaoh and interpret his dreams about what was going to happen to Egypt. And they turned out to be true. And so all that led to a process.

And then when we get to Hebrews, I want to read what the Hebrew writers said, because it's interesting. He only mentions the end of his life in verse 22. He says, by faith, Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. And then here's an interesting little caveat. instructions about his bones. And this goes back to that idea of promise, Jace, because the reference there is talking about Genesis 50, 25, when Joseph was about to die, he made the people around him promise that when they left

and went and to the promised land that was promised way back to his, you know, grandfather, Abraham, that they took his bones with them. And if you read in Exodus 1319, that's exactly what they did. Moses made sure they dug up Joseph's bones when they were going into the promised land and to take him with him. So I just thought that was really interesting that here was this guy who winds up being second in charge of all of Egypt because he got these amazing

dreams and visions. But he was like, I believe so much in the promise of God that when the time comes, you dig me up and you make sure you take my bones to that place. But he had spent most of his life in Egypt. He got there when he was 17. That's a lot of faith. That's a lot of faith. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's pretty amazing, right? Because he, you know how long he was, he was in Egypt? He lived to be 110. He was in Egypt for almost a hundred years. You would think he would consider that to be home, but it wasn't. Home was where the promise of God was, which I've always been fascinated. He had the wild women. He had it all, but he said, no. No, that's not what I'm going to do. Let's take our last break. I think that's where they got the idea.

lonesome dove, you know, when they're carrying the bones. Remember that shit? Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought about that. That's what, hey, you always go back to the Bible and it's some, somebody has an idea. It's one of my favorite, it's one of my favorite lines when he, because the, there's a whole hour of him, like, getting him there. And he, he's in a rivers and he almost loses him.

Oh, yeah. The Indians are after him. And he goes all the way from Montana to. Texas. And when he gets there and he buries him, he's sitting there and he's, you know, he's crying old Woodrow. He says, well, I guess that'll teach me. Yeah. You tell a man. Not to give your word.

Well, that's one saying. It was based on a promise. That's why I brought it up. But that's why I always kind of rip Hollywood movies. He was given instructions about. Because, well, people, people, people gripe about, you know, the lack of godly values. in Hollywood movies, but you got to remember, they're already have a problem because all their

influence and movies ends with the end. And that's the difference between what they're selling and what God is selling. So it's just beginning when you die. And I think that was, I mean, I just think it was

a shadow of you know, the promised land of what it represents as far a new heaven and new earth, you know, for us in the resurrection also. I mean, because I said you could read all these stories and you could add a phrase in each one. It's not over. This is not over.

Since you brought it up, it's also the last scene in Lonesome Dove, you remember when Woodrow, after he buried, after he buries him, he goes back to their ranch. Remember the, what was it, morning dove, whatever the ranch was called? Yep. And he goes back there and then some reporters there. And he says, he's asking me these questions. And of course, you know, Woodrow, he didn't say much about it. And he says, they said he had a U Valley.

He went down to that little little town in Texas first before we went back. Right. That's where the reporter stopped him. Yeah. And the reporter says, they say you had a vision. And he kind of stops. And, you know, and then in his mind, the audience gets to see what happened. All those people he left with and most of them died along the journey,

including Gus, and he kind of tears up. And he says, yeah, I had a vision. And then that was it. And so, but the whole thing was he was back to where he began, but this whole journey that we got to go along, which by the way, greatest thing ever made on television, in my opinion, was long-send-dub. So if that's something else you've never watched, you better go back and watch Lonesome Dove. I mean, while we're plugging, we actually watched a movie that the other nine,

that was good. It was shocking. And I picked it because we were all together as a family. Which is also shocking. Well, they said, let's watch a movie. And I said, do what? Why would we want to ruin this perfectly great vacation with watching a movie? And then everybody kind of said, yeah, that's right.

I said, but let's look. We hadn't watched the movies along. And so they were throwing out movies. And they were throwing out like Jurassic Park. And I was looking. I was like, no. I mean, because it was, no. And so I found one.

And I'm like, I got one. And it was called 13 lives. And it was based on a true story. First of all, it was PG-13, which that was a prerequisite for me. It was based on true story. And it was rated high, whatever. the rating thing I was looking at. And it was like a 7.8 out of 10.

I was like, I got it. Of course, they were like, no, I mean, what is that about? And I was like, this is it. I mean, I really sold it. I was like, I'm telling you, this is, this is going to be good. Because, and what the director was Opie on, from Barney, Andy Griffith. Yeah, Ron Howard.

I was like, he usually makes pretty good movies. He does. We watched it. Fantastic. It's great. 13 lies. What is it about? I mean, I'm, I don't even, I don't have a dog.

I don't tell the movie, but I'm still, yeah, I'm not, I'm not going to tell the movie. It's a true story. So, so you don't want to know. The least you know about the movie, the better. And, uh, it was so funny, because we get to the end of the movie. I'm literally on the edge of my seat the entire time. It was fantastic. And, uh, my son, Cole says, well, you know what's crazy?

I, I googled this. And everybody, I mean, there's like, my old family simultaneously goes, well, don't you say a word, you know, because we all knew it was a true story. But we thought he was like, I wasn't going to tell how the movie was going to end. But the fact that he was doing research, I'm like, I don't want to know. I don't want to be reminded. I just want you to sit there and eat popcorn and watch this to the end and don't say a word. It was a really, it was a really good movie.

so if you're needing some family time. I mean, I just don't see many that I can recommend. There may be two cuss words in the whole movie. I hate that there's two, but there probably is. But overall, there's no, it's a family viewing watch true story. It sounds like to me you were the star of this vacation because you insisted they go to the good place to eat. They didn't want to go.

You insisted they watched the movie. It was excellent. And you kill roaches for the, entire vacation. I mean, you should be the MVP. What's funny is they actually brought that up. They're like, you have made a series of good calls on this vacation.

So for once in my life, I was like, yes, I picked a good movie. People like me right now. But that's a dangerous road to go down when you start recommending movies. Oh, yeah. But if you don't like this. you know what, just throw your TV in the river. I mean, it's a good movie. All right, so I want to read, I want to, we just have a little bit of time left.

So I want to read an Exodus one. I want to read a little bit about this because we're going to talk about a little bit in overtime to set us up for the next podcast that we're going to talk about Moses. So they have this famine. And so that, it's a long story, but that winds up getting Jacob and all the other son. to and their families to Egypt. And so that's where they are when we get to Exodus chapter 1. So, you know, I asked you guys to read the end of Genesis and you'll get all that.

So in verse 5, Exodus 1 says, the descendants of Jacob numbered 70 in all. You know, of course, Joseph was already in Egypt. So think about this. You're talking about 70 to 75 people that are the family of Jacob. And now they're in Egypt because of how bad. this famine was, which is where they were. And so that's how they get there. And it said in verse 6, Joseph and all his brothers and all that generation died.

So now we're talking about a long time has passed. But the Israelites were fruitful and multiplied greatly and became exceedingly numerous so that the land was filled with them. And then it says a new king who did not know Joseph came to power in Egypt. And then it's going to start the next part of our story. But I wanted to read that because to set the stage for what happens next, because as we're going through Hebrews, you're also going through this history of the Jewish people. And again, it continues to be amazing how the plan of God was developing through this whole process and what he was going to do, which was going to be bringing the Messiah of Jesus. It always goes back to that. But like Jay said earlier, the details of the story are what makes it fascinating.

when you think about what these folks went through to get to this point. Yeah, exactly. So you got any other comments, Chase? Well, I just thought before we go, the overtime, what I found kind of interesting, which I know I'm skipping ahead a little bit, that he mentions all these names, and you go through these stories and you find encouragement, like we said, that, you know, God can forgive you of anything and use you. And there's a lot of great lines.

And when we get to Moses, I love this statement in 27, when he said by faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king's anger. He persevered because he saw him who is invisible. Now, what a statement that is. And we'll talk about that, you know, next time. But I also wanted to say that he used people's names all over. And then all of a sudden, when he gets down to verse 30, he just throws in an event. It made me think that it's like in my redneck mindset, that it's like you have all these great men of faith.

And then it was like, oh, yeah, let me throw in this story about the rednecks who went down there and defeated a fortress by marching around and blowing horns seven times, you know. I mean, I just thought it was interesting that it's like it wasn't just the people, which it was, but he throws in. that event, which makes you think, but as a believer in God, I know this, I mean, because we're all, you know, have our fears about government and, you know, government take over and abuse of power and, you know, the authorities maybe getting out of line or whatever.

We all have those fears, you know, but to see God act in that environment with a city. and I mean, I don't know. It is a crazy story, but it gives me a piece to know that no matter what happens in the country or politics and all that, God is bigger. And I think that's right through it in there. You know what I mean? It's possible. It's a great point. And an encouraging way to end our podcast.

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