Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 536 | Phil Warns Against Man-eating Swamp Creature & Jase Matches Politicians with Biblical Kings

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

Jase introduces various hypothetical situations involving life or death and the human responses to them. Phil joins in with a story about the most unlikely man-eater of the swamp and how to avoid it. Al discusses desperate faith and how difficult it must have been for the Israelites to trust the plan and flee from an army toward a sea with no boats for passage! Al points out that only six of 39 biblical kings were considered good kings, and Jase says modern politicians probably have a similar percentage. And Phil tells a funny story about a puppy that survived for two months trapped inside a cave! Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Dad, you were telling me you took a tumble. I see your arms kind of scoffed up there. That was caused by large blocks of concrete. We have on both sides of the dump that we're holding about 80 acres of water this winter. So we got it all figured out there. But I was down there.

I went down to that on the bank there. It was all rocks pile up there, concrete, took a track hole and did it. But anyway, I got down there, and I was peaked up in that pipe to look on the other end, make sure the beavers wasn't trying to stop me up, up in that pipe. But on the way out of that, I slipped. And fortunately for me, no one was there to see me crawl out. Why we like that? First thing you did.

It's the first thing you did. It was look up, see if Dan's out. around to sift, old Dan, he was with me. I looked around, he wasn't there. I said, I'm glad he didn't see that. Because he'd have been saying,

man, are you all right? I did it last night. So I'm in there, you know, in my little lair. Missy said, I think a tree just fell on the house. Of course, the same house I'm in.

I didn't hear anything. You were in your little man cave. Yeah, I said, so if a tree falls on your house and nobody hears it, did it fall? So you're quite the philosopher. So guess what she said?

Excuse me? So it's pouring down rain. So I thought, well, I guess I need to go investigate it, you know. So I walked outside. But those, you know, my little deck where my dog stays up under, it can get slippery. And I was just walking. I mean, it wasn't like I ran down the stairs or. You weren't alarmed.

I just remember on the first step down. I just, because then I, you know, next thing you know, I'm going end over in. I don't have any, I mean, I look, but I looked around. It's pretty dark out there. I had a flashed. I bled slightly. I bled a little bit, but. In the grand scheme of things, no problem.

I said, I'm getting like that woman of mine. You know, I was the happiest this morning about Dad's fall? mom she was like see i'm not the only one that has that falls around here so i came back inside to finish my story because i see no tree and now i'm mad because i i fell and you're wet and i'm wet and of course and she said well you didn't have to go out there and look i said excuse me that's your response to this well we have the concrete where the where the rigs are parked that concrete it's been raining on it every week, and it's developed kind of a little, looked like a little green scum just growing up out of that company.

That's where you better watch it. And I mean, I walked out this morning, it was like, I said, boy, this baby is slick. We didn't collaborate on this story, but when I went down this morning to feed my dog, I wanted to investigate what happened with my fall, and that green scum was on them boards, and I thought, huh. And then guess what? Then I looked up and that a tree had fallen, but it had fallen from my neighbors.

I have a little gazebo down there to find, and it missed that, I mean a bull of a pine. It missed it by a foot and fell on my neighbors. I'm surprised that big pines are falling like that. They're not bad about falling like that. They used to have a better root system. That's a third one in the same area. Yeah.

But I've noticed they do it every time there's a big rain. because that water starts coming. Somebody built my house back in the day right where all the rain goes. Yep. One day, look, I'm going to be sitting there and it ain't going to be a tree fell. I'm going to hear the house fell in the pond because I think that's what's going to. It's just going to slide right here. We're just going to slide like California.

We're just going to slide off under the pond. I cut a few of those at the house, but they're virgin pine. And I'd say they were there during Thomas Jefferson's reign as president, about 1800. They were there because these things are old. But they are unbelievably tall. And some of them lean in my way around the, I looked at that. I gave the lumber there. I got from that to Burley, and he built his whole cabin with it.

Yeah. It was virgin pine. And I mean, you could get like about four cuts. They're over 100. and get to the limbs. They're 100 feet tall. Oh, they're 100 foot, easy. Huge things.

But I do remember when I was a kid. Remember me by that after I'm gone, just say, they wonder why you never cut them big old trees? I just, it's too pretty to cut. But I did cut about two of them or three of them. I gave barrel the lumber. He built a whole cabinet of it. I just remember when I was a kid,

the lightning strikes on them big old trees. I mean, I bet 10 of them got struck in my childhood. One of them had killed just standing there. And I climbed it like an idiot. I had a belt, got me one of these belts and these spurs. And I went up that thing tied me a little. I remember that now. And I had about a 10-foot lane where it wouldn't tear down, building sheds, porches.

So I had it one place, but I got me a rope, a long one, and got way out there in my four-wheel drive truck. Got a wince line on it. Got a little tension on it. started cutting on that thing. I remember the one that happened. When that thing came down, I mean, it went down the only place without it ripping something apart. But it was close. I remember the whole family was outside on the other side watching the whole process to see if you got killed or we smashed the house.

You know, my woman ran out there, get out of that tree. I tried. You know, you're going way too high. I just kept going up that way. I knew I had a pull on it. Yeah. I don't know. In the last podcast.

I would pay that to have that done now. Well, I would hope so. At the time, I didn't have any money. In the last podcast and the overtime, I showed you all a picture of a dog's skull stuck in a tree. And they did some research. He had followed a coon up into the tree. That picture is something. He couldn't turn around and go back.

It was like a hoop. It was like going in a hoop now. They built that lake, what, 25, 30 years ago? 40 years ago? What's the lake? That lake you're talking about? No, this wasn't in the lake. That was...

That was in Arizona and Nevada, where you're talking about, the lakes. That was two different stories. Yeah, that was two different stories. But I just thought, you know, there's a thought that seems right to a man or a dog, and in the end it leads to death. It's a reminder, don't go up a hollow tree without an exit strategy. Well, he may have got in there in that coon mad. down him in.

He probably got wedged up in there and couldn't get out. But it was just when they cut the tree, there was just a skull looking at them. That thing in Kentucky, when the Kentucky River got way up, it's hilly and there rocky, you know. And there was a cave down there,

and the water came up so quick. It flooded that cave, you know, and it just started coming in from the river. Well, this dog got over in there was washed downstream and got in the cave. the water kept rising, fill the hole up at the cave. The dog just kept going back, back further and further to get out of the water.

And two months later, when the water fell off, you came out? That dog comes, yeah. Good, there's a dog looking at a. That was the dog. But he went two months in a cave with any food. He had water. That was a pitiful-looking man.

That was the local, that was the local dog version. of Noah's art. That's exactly right. The dog lived to tell about it. I mean, he made it, but I mean, he was stuck in that cave for two months. With no faith, I can't believe it. Maybe ate some bugs or something. I want to put an exclamation point on.

So this weekend, you know, I told the story about me losing my golf bag and all that. Yep. Your mistreatment. Chaos that ensued about that. So about a week later, because during that process of trying to live, locate the bag and use technology because one of the representatives had lied to me saying that they would call me. You remember the story? No call. I'm still waiting on a call. Never heard back from them. I get a memo on my phone. Ding! And so when my wife downloaded the app for the airline on my phone,

they sent me a message. And I thought, okay. Now what? Because I'm not flying out anytime soon. I thought, I think they're going to issue me an apology. That's what I thought. So I clicked on it. The message, you know what it said? Your bag has arrived. They're a day late. No, they ain't a day late.

They're a week later. Do you have lost your bag up to that point? I had lost the bag and retrieved it. And maybe that's why she said you need to fill out this form. Because they thought they still. I'm not filling out. I'm not giving you $20 and I'm not filling out to form. And I may never come back again.

I may take a boat or train next time. But I just thought I would put a bow on that story. So instead of getting the apology you deserved, instead you got a, we're still incompetent. Give us $20. There was no charge. They just said, it's here. Yeah, that was a bad job. That was a way for me to respond.

I would have said, no, it's not. I got it. I stole it. I stole my own bag. I just thought you'd find that humorous. It's pretty humorous. I do find that humorous. All right.

So, Dad, you had watch yourself out there. I did tell Mom, who was like Job's friends, rejoicing in your calamity, that you bounce back pretty quick, though, unlike her, who's usually a trip to the wound care. That is correct. You know, so you did bounce back from your injury, so, which is all good. So let's go back to Hebrews. chapter 11 and I guess all this talk about water is perfect because it takes us back we talked about Moses last time kind of introduced him in the text although we had been mentioned him all along

there were a couple little fact toys I wanted to tell you about him before we moved on to this red sea crossing you know Moses he wrote um he wrote genesis exodus leviticus numbers Duda Rami. So, you know, the Torah, he wrote it. So it's not like, it's pretty prolific that he was the guy that wrote what is established the law for the Jews, you know, for all those thousands of years. Another one, Dad, is he wrote that Psalm 90, which you quote a lot, that Peter quotes as well about the idea about we're like grass and that's how life is. And in that Psalm 90, he mentions that you have 70 years on the earth, 80 if you're strong. And I thought that was pretty amazing.

A guy that ancient had that kind of insight, you know, into what now we all know to be true, which is pretty much how long. And he, I don't know whether the Psalmist, whether Moses wrote the part about, you know, the pandemics will come and go, but, you know, they won't, the God will protect you from them. But he was saying, look, pandemics are a part of God's grass. Right, right. It's all part of the process.

He gave you a nice... I looked around and every time I look up, you know, monkey pox and then, you know, COVID coming from bats. There's something. You know, coming out of monkeys and bats and it's kidding people. You know, it's a... Oh, it's a bone to be to you. Pandemics are real. Well, you got you a three-point sermon here, Al.

Good. I was like... Well, he, I mean, I really, I really like it. He, you know, in 25, he chose mistreatment. Along with the people of God, rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. So there's point one. Right. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ of greater value than the treasures of Egypt,

because he was looking ahead to his role. There's number two. And then he focused on the invisible. He persevered because he saw him. He was invisible. I like that. That's good. I may have to preach that.

does that not apply to what we're going? I mean, when you go back as a young person, because it's more important for them to be liked and have friends than to anything else, I guess. Yeah. So, I mean, that's what it comes down to. If you're going to, if you're going to decide to put God first in your life, you're going to be mistreated by your so-called friends.

He just wrote as a matter of fact in the book of Genesis, is God said, this is Moses talking. By the way, God said let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years. Let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth. And it was so. God made two great lights, the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern. I mean, some guy is sitting under a tree just scratching this out.

out on a piece of paper. Yeah. And it gets to us. Yeah. The creation narrative. Yeah. So. You know, like what?

Some kind of world traveler, some kind of geologist, some kind of cosmologist. I mean, this guy. Just a guy who grew up in the house of Pharaoh and spent 40 years in a desert. Let's take a break. No, that's an excellent point. And a lot of people have asked this. Well, when did. Oh, what a resume that dude has.

When did Moses, you know, get all this information? Well, you remember, you remember when Paul talks about it in Second Corinthians three, He talked about the glowing effect of Moses. Yeah. Moses would go out in a tent and the presence of God, whatever that means, would descend on the tent. And he was having a conversation with the Almighty. And some of that conversation said, by the way, you need to write about the sun and the moon that I put up there. So make sure you put that in there on the beginning there.

Right. You just think about it. But you know, it's interesting. So what happens is most people aren't aware of this. If you go back and read the account. And I don't think he'd ever been to college, Eddie. Well, he did grow up in the house of Pharaoh, which would have meant that he was trained everything they knew up until that time. So he did have some knowledge.

But whenever God was having this conversation with him in the Tentimita, you know who was in there as well? His scribe, Joshua, who was the next in line. He was in there writing all this down. So all this stuff in the Torah, everything from Genesis that you talked about, the creation of the world, the first sin, the Garden of Eden, you know, the Tower of Bible, all that amazing stuff. People are still arguing about it. They still are. And that all came to him when he was in those little confabs with the Almighty.

And Joshua was writing it all down, which was, you know. Makes sense to me. Yeah. I mean, if the son is burnt. That has something to do with, you know, God had to train him to what he had to write down. Right. But he was speaking through a human being. And you say, which when he picks it, oh, Moses, Moses is the one that wrote all this down.

You know, and the creation and all everybody got living. And it's exactly the... I mean, to have made it up, I mean, the need for light, what the sun and the moon does. And we've now proven that it's a burning ball of fire. So you think, well, who started it? If you have a fire, it had to start. Yeah.

Right. Has it always been burning? Well, and look, not only that, the... Just 13.5 billion years. Yeah, but it hadn't always... When somebody... Somebody starts talking to me. They tell me they know what happened.

13 billion, 500 million years ago. Here's what happened. Somebody tells me that. He's lying. Or he's just, Okay, or thousands of years ago. Or he's just guessing that. He may not be lying.

He's just guessing. Here's what happened 13.5 million and just leave it at that. No, 13 billion, 500 million. You got to get that 500 million. Put that little point in there. It sounds like you really know. Well, that's all I'm saying. Who started the fire?

That's a Billy Joel song. Who started the fire? Just before there were something, what was there? Did they say nothing? And I'm like, so nothing explodes and make something? I said, I don't believe that. No, I agree. That's why when people read it and they say, well, this is ridiculous.

I'm like, what's your? Well, enlighten me. Yeah. What's your? And I've said this. before, but if you want to look, you can actually look now. You need to tell Dan to pull it up on his phone sometime or his computer and show you the James Webb telescope.

They sent the thing out to the sun. Yeah. It's orbiting the sun. It's 100 times more powerful than the one they sent up here, the Hubble. And it's just incredible. You're looking at galaxies, the formation of, I mean, because what happens is it takes so long for that to get out and back to us. We're literally looking back in time, which is pretty amazing.

But you're able to see that. And Moses said it in one verse. God created the heavens and the earth. One verse describes us looking and seeing galaxies being formed. He was qualified to pontificate on that because he had a conversation with God via a burning bush that wouldn't burn up. That's right. That's why I was making that reference to the sun. It's because the sun is still burning and burning.

and I, you know, I can see how his mind was thinking, but he knows who started it is my point. Well, that was interesting. You're right that I didn't think about it, that it was actually the fire in the bush was the same situation. But you know what also happened there, Joe, when he asked him, he said, who are you, Lord? And there was first time we get the I am, I am the Lord, your God.

And again, we talk about shadows. Remember when Jesus comes along? Well, he introduced that, I am who I am. Right. Which is later on when Jesus got here, would use that, what, seven, eight times? That was Jesus' nickname. I am.

I am that I am. Before Abraham was born, I am. I mean, it's the ultimate mic drop statement. All right, I want to read this verse, this next verse in 28, because you mentioned it last time on the podcast. What chapter are you in? Hebrews 11. Yep.

We've been mentioning this verse for a week. I know. We're finally going to mention it in context. By faith, he kept the. Passover and the sprinkling of blood so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel. So there's another shadow is the concept of... We'll go through that real quick.

So you remember they had the plagues. Ten plagues. And they were trying to get Pharaoh to let the people leave Israel. There was a famous statement in there when he said, okay, you know, in that negotiation, he's like, we'll lift these plagues. Remember it with the frogs? because the frogs always intrigue me because frogs are so good. But if you got that many of them.

Unless they outnumber you in your house. Okay, wait a minute here. But for a while, boy. I think it was more than just separate frog legs. Well, yeah, I think. Too many frogs. It took the house. For a minute, it was like, oh.

It's kind of like that time when you said, let's get into the crawfish business. But the first week, I thought, boy, this is awesome. I am doing what I love to do. And then after that, it became. And then when the blood poison said it. It became a plague of hospital visits. Dead animals. I got to a point to where I said, I will never eat another crawfish the rest of my life.

It really does when you get on the work side of that business. You think, you know, everything people go through to get crawfish to your, everything is going through the digestive system of a crawfish because they'll eat you. If you were to fall in the trap, they would eat you, Jay. If your finger, if you had a fall and lost one of your fingers, which is now, a possibility at this stage of our lives. I mean, me and you can't even stand up. Yep.

And your finger gets detached from your body and falls into any creek or pine here. Look, it literally will be gone in seconds. That is good. Everything. Everything here wants to eat. I always said you tie them in the water and tie him tight on the tree at there where all them crawfish are. You go up by the next morning and ever far that water was,

no meat pick clean pick clean so what i was going to make reference to though when when they asked pharaoh you know that uh well jeph walling one of our buddies he's a great preacher

he i heard a sermon when i was a teenager never forgot it the name of it was one more night with the frogs because they they offered relief to the plague and he said just give me one more night i mean it's like

in the point was I'm not surrendering. I'd rather try to figure out how I'm going to do this myself than relent. You know, and it was a very good start. So that's what happened to Pharaoh. The severity of the plagues got worse. And by the time we get to the, because he kept saying, okay, I'm going to let you go. And then he'd go back on his word.

He gets to the 10th one and the 10th one broke his back because every firstborn, person or animal in the whole country, dropped dead in one night. I mean, you talk, I mean, just think about the pain of that. So God devised a plan to take a lamb. Every family in Israel, they had their camp, you know, and there's, you know, millions of them. And they would put the blood of this lamb on the doorpost.

And the angel destroyer that came through that night and killed all the Egyptians and all their animals, nobody from Israel died. None of their livestock, none of them. And so that is the concept that then Jesus refers to several times is the Passover lamb, which he is. That was a tough pandemic. That would be a rough one. One night, I would be gone.

You know, Anna would be gone. You know, my dog would be gone. I mean, just all the firstborn, you know, which would have been shocking. So that's what he's talking about with that idea of the sprinkling of blood. And that's kind of the first time we see it in relationship to Jesus and the concept of the lamb. Let's take a break. I was just going to clarify where I saw that. So that's Exodus 8 on the story I was saying.

He predicted 8.3, the Nile will team with frogs. They will come up into your palace and in your bedroom and under your bed and in the houses. Verse 4, the frogs will go up on you and your people and all your officials. and the Lord said to Moses, stretch out your hand, staff and canal, and make the frogs come up. So they come up. So then they get in the conversation in verse 9.

Moses said to Pharaoh, I leave to you the honor of setting the time for me to pray for you and your officials and your people that you and your house may be rid of the frogs, except for those that remain in the now, which is where they belong. And then the next verse, verse 10. tomorrow. He wanted one more night with the frog.

Which is an awesome sermon. Yeah, it really is. I didn't want to just tell part of this story and leave it. No, that's good. And so they left. Well, what was interesting was I said it broke Pharaoh's back. It did for a minute. But as soon as Israel leaves, they leave Egypt, they go down, they're in the desert,

they're heading for the land that God had promised Abraham 400 years earlier. and as soon as they get out there, Pharaoh has a change of heart because now he feels burned because he lost them. And so he sends his army to track them down. And remember, they're not, this is, they've been in slavery. It's not like they're armed or anything. They're just going out through the desert and it's millions of them. So, I mean, they're pretty much just easy pickings for the biggest army in the world at the

time. And they come up against the Red Sea. They get there and what are we going to do here? And so Moses puts his staff in the water. And of course, God parts it literally and has a big old wind comes in and blows and even dries it out for them. And then all those people march through that water. And, of course, the old Ten Commandments movie, you know, you can't remember the old look where the water standing up on both sides. And then the army comes in after them just about the time they're clearing the Red Sea.

And then God just collapses the walls onto this army. And so the greatest army on earth has just been literally drowned, which, by the way, this weakened them to the point that then they were susceptible. You go back historic and look after this happened to Egypt, people kept coming in from all around there and taking over, which when we get to Exodus 1 and Joseph, the new kings, the reason you have them is because they didn't have an army anymore. God had drowned them all.

This shows you, though, how people are so defiant to God, though. I mean, you think about that 10-plag story and what it led to, I mean, we know the story, so it loses its shock and all. Right. But I mean, what's it going to take for you to realize that you don't want to be on the wrong side of God Almighty? That's right. You know? But just in our minds, especially people in power, they just have a real problem surrendering,

but it's not unlike us having to surrender in our daily lives. I mean, it's just this battle between what we want to do and our agenda and trusting in God is really the battle of life. And it also shows, that's a good point, it also shows you once your heart is embittered, which obviously Pharaoh's was, I mean, literally, he'll just keep feeding it. I mean, to send his army into that sea,

thinking somehow he could pull this out. And already after you had locusts, he's beginning. He's beginning. And now we're killing the firstborn. No one, that's when he said, okay. He's beginning to sound like Joe Biden. Well, draw your own.

conclusion. Maybe more coherent. So another thing I thought was interesting, Jason, about this Red Sea thing is remember the statements that Paul made in 1st Corinthians 10 about this being a shadow of baptism? Because they were in between the walls of water and there was the cloud

that had been going around over them this whole time to keep them from burning up in the desert. And he said, just like they were encompassed in water, Paul compared that to the baptism. You know, that's how, that was there coming out of Egypt finally coming out of slavery for good and coming into newness.

And I thought was a really interesting. That's again that you get an insight. You have individuals running around and they just passed a bill. We're going to give you all enough money to save the planet. But they forget in the Hebrew's letter, in the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth and the heavens are the work over your hands. They will perish.

That tells the people that say, no, we're going to save it. they're going to perish, but you remain, Lord. They will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe, like a garment. They will be changed, but you remain the same and your years will never end. What he said is, you're not going to destroy the planet. I am. And they're like, wait, wait, right.

And they're going to somehow jump in here and save what God said. He's going to destroy. Lower the temperature. Yeah, they're not going to pull it off. No, they're not. Well, but he also gave us, you know, from the flood and Noah, the rainbow, which is a guarantee that he would also give us grace, which eventually led to Jesus. I mean, if you don't make it in the end, it wasn't that he didn't try.

May God provided a way for you. Yep. You know, in Jesus. By the way, so, you know, you see a lot of rainbow flags around now, and we all know what is trying to be presented there. but if you wonder what you should do as a believer, every time I see them and boy, man, on the Pride Month, they were everywhere, the cities I was going to,

I said, this is awesome. Look at all the people that are giving God praise for a covenant that he made with man. So every time I see it, that's what I think of. I think the same thing. I'm like, Jesus is nine. You didn't invent that. No, it's a God thing.

It's a God thing. And it's a complicated, you know, it's actually, Sadie was talking about, about this in her sermon. We only see half of it. Right. If you looked at it from space, it's a complete circle. Right.

Which is a never-ending covenant that he made. Right. He would. And we know what causes with the prism of the water, being able to bend the light through the water. So, I mean, it's a fascinating thing. But so I'm just saying, you say, people say, well, whatever, that's not why they're putting them. I don't care what they're saying.

I know what it means. Can you? They don't have original. ideas. No. So they took something that I like the explanation of what God used it for. Yeah. Then you just think, oh, here's a rainbow. Let's come up with some agenda for us. Celebrate the covenant. God says he's not going to do that again. He said, only now we're waiting for the final stop, which is what comes next. Well, your first Corinthians 10 reference was pretty, I mean, just to read that, a lot of that might have gone slept over the head here. But

he said in one through four or five he said i don't want you to be any of the fact that our forefathers were all under the cloud that they all passed through the sea they were all baptized into moses in the cloud and in the sea they ate spiritual food drank spiritual drink so it gives you the picture because you think about it they just basically had to trust you would you would never like a plan that says hey let's go walk let's go walk let's into the sea. I mean, I'd look around for a boat. Now, what's the plan again?

So you're talking about faith. How nervous were the people at the end of the thing that thought, are we going to get through here before these walls come down? I wouldn't have made it because I'd have said, y'all let me know how to. I mean, it's just as a guy. Of course, you had a motivation with that army bearing down on you to get on through. Yeah, I get it.

You're trapped, but I usually don't say, let's just walk across the ocean. That's right. That's exactly right. But there had to be some faith and trust. And you know what, Jay, to your point, talking about worship, as soon as they got across, you remember they had a big worship. And Miriam wrote a song about it. I mean, the first thing they did was they gave praise to God, which is great.

Let's take another break. So, yeah, so thanks for reading that. So they get through. We've talked about Jericho and Rahab and past podcast. So that was the conquering of Canaan, which was the member, this is all promised this land way back to Abraham. So it's the realization of another promise that God had made. And all the cities fell, now they're there.

And then he kind of shifts in verse 32. He's going to kind of just broaden it out. And it says, and what more shall I say, verse 32, I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, or Barack, Samson, Jeptha, David, Samuel, and the prophets. So he mentions the judges. And sometime if you're just up for an interesting reading the Bible, go read the book of judges. Because it was the, I mean, it was the wow, wow west of Israel's history, which is really amazing. And James, you realize that Barack, he was a military leader.

He wasn't really a judge, but his wife was. Or, I mean, they guessed they were married. Deborah was the one who was. He did something embarrassing, but I can't remember what it was. do what he did something embarrassing well he's the one that uh in the story of of barak and debor he had conquered this this guy they'd come in they was trying to you know and so they went and fought him because barak was the military leader and this woman um the guy that they were fighting he hit out in a tent so he went in there and went to sleep he was that's what it was he sent his wife

yeah so no so the what his what the guy the wife that he's in there asleep she goes to the there and she takes a tent peg and just goes right through the temples while he's asleep. And then so she goes outside. And so when Barack is coming by, she's like, hey, the guy you're looking for her, he's in there. So he's going there and look. And so this guy, it was execution by the wife is what happened there. I think that was the moment I was thinking. Yeah.

They say, well, he sent that. I mean, he sent his wife. But I thought that was actually, I mean, if you can. If your wife has that. After I read that story, though, I slend. I slept with one eye open for a while. I was like, make sure you got a good situation with your wife.

Samson, you mentioned before, Jace. That's an amazing story. Well, I was going to make a comment, though, when you're talking about

that Moses and trusting God, all these people weren't, I mean, they were having to trust God in seemingly impossible situations. And it reminded me that illustration

that I've heard some preacher give where this guy, he got, He only went to the hospital for a checkup, and I think he was telling it as a true story. But I remember hearing it, but at the same point he applied as the one I want to make. And, you know, the doctor comes in and I was like,

look, we're sorry. I mean, you're looking at four or five weeks. And he's like, four or five weeks, yeah, it's over. You know, you're going to die. And so the guy, you know, he immediately falls down his knees and starts praying to God. I mean, it's like he's just, you're talking about having a moment of worship here. Yeah.

And so then, so the doctor leaves a room, guys crying, praying, praying, giving his life to God. I mean, calling people just beside himself. Then the doctor comes back and he's like, man, I tell you this, but I actually read you the wrong report. That was the guy next door. So the preacher told that she said, story because then the guy's life, oh, it was just a misunderstanding state of the accident, and he just went right back to his life. But it's like, why are we treating God like that? It's like, what are we negotiating based on the circumstance to trust God when all of a sudden

it's over? I mean, shouldn't we be doing this every day for real? I mean, and he was more saying our relationship, well, God, it's not a negotiation. It is something where you're putting your trust in him, no matter what the circumstance. I had a man who contacted us the other day, about a week ago, two weeks ago. I called him up, and I've been praying for him. And the doctor said, you got hard troubles. You don't have but three months, whatever. You tell him it's that same story.

I said, let's pray to God that he'll raise you up and get that behind you. So I called him up and told him what I was doing, he and his wife both. And I said, I just want to let you know. I am praying for you. Yeah. Well, and that's the beautiful thing about the resurrection life is even when you get news like that that's meant for you, you realize that I'm coming back. I mean, that's the beauty of this. Well, that's where I was going with this, because all the stories shifts.

I said, you need to read first Thessalon is 413. You know, we don't want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep or grieve like the rest of men. You have no hope. We believe Jesus died and rose again. So I said, make sure you write this down and live back, you know, because the time is growing now for you. So God may, I'm asking that God has changed his mind on you. Well, I was trying to make the transition that most of these people were martyred. And, you know, when you get down to where they were sawn into and different things, I mean, and they were confident.

They seemed confident. I mean, that's why they're in this hall of faith that God was with them. and this is part of the plan. I mean, it's a lot easier to go through that when it's difficult when you've been walking with him and trusting in him the whole thing. I mean, the resurrection becomes a reality. I mean, if you just pushed a rewind button back to Enick where he just took him up.

And I mean, these people were so confident in where Abraham was sacrificing his son, even though he knew that was the promise that would produce all these generations because they concluded what? Guys got a plan here. I got to trust him tomorrow, today, and yesterday. I mean, this, and so then you start viewing pandemics and death in a different light,

which infuriates those who are not believers when they see our attitude. They're like, well, what's wrong with you? You don't seem real worried about this. Mark, like, well, because I'm not real worried about it, you know? I mean, I'll try to be a good citizen. and keep it from spreading, but am I worried about it? No. Yeah, exactly.

I won't mention this last name, but the name is Mark. So Mark just trust us. We're praying for you, dude. So let's take our last break. So he mentions David here as well, which is interesting. Obviously, this is King David who, you know, wrote most of the Psalms. And, of course, had an amazing life. You know, it's interesting.

I think, I didn't research this, but I think there's 39 kings with Israel and Judah, because they split. And out of the 39 kings, only six of them were good, which is a pretty low percentage. They're not saying much for the human race. No. And then out of all that, if you took the politicians and all these governments across the world, it kind of fixed in it. A similar percentage.

Yeah, I agree. On both sides of every whatever political spectrum you have. Right. So that's about a few politicians, aren't you? I have. And there's not many that I would want to hang around with. So the six, out of the six, King David, interestingly enough, was the only one that was actually chosen by God. And he sent Samuel to anoint him when he was just a boy, you know, that this is going to be the guy.

Which is probably the last person you would pick. Right. He was the run of the family. Shepard. Yeah, he was the runt. He was the, you know, he was out, keep taking care of the sheep. The oldest was he looked like Saul, the guy who they had in illegitimately already. And Samuel was, oh, look at this. guy. God says, nope. And so he said, you got any more sons? He went through the whole lot. And he said,

nope, you got any more? Well, there's the runt out in the field. Bring him in. That was God's guy. So it was really interesting about King David, but you know, he also established a covenant with David for the eternal king. And that's why Jesus was called the son of David, because the idea was he told David, he said, from you, the eternal king will come. So you follow that line down. Even with his faults. Even with his faults. Had it had an affair, murdered, a woman's husband. I mean, he was quite the guy, but he loved God and God knew his heart. That's the difference. So that's why you have to trust that. So it is interesting that he threw him in there with the others. But I want to read the rest of this so we can finish it up here and then I also talk about it in overtime.

And we've referenced this, but I want to actually read the text, all these who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised. There's the promises of God, Jay's. Who shut the mouths of lions. That was Daniel. Quenched the fury of flames. There's Shadrat, Meshach, and the bed together. They got the short-term promises where the God, there was a lot of positive thing,

but he's going to get to the end and say, yet they didn't receive what was promised. Right. And escape the edge of the sword. So those are all the kind of good stories whose weakness was turned to strength and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. women receive back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released so that they might gain a better resurrection, which he's talking about the final one there.

Verse 36, some face jeers and flogging while still others were chained and put in prison. They were stoned, meaning pelted with rocks till they died. They were sawed in two. They were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheep skins, goat skins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated, the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains and in caves and holes in the ground. These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised.

Talking about the ultimate promise. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. So the blood of Jesus went all the way back through time and saved them all. save the ones who live by faith. I want to put this into an investing, I spoke at something on money, business somewhere, and so I did a little lesson about investing.

Of course, I've, you know, my final point was when you invest in Jesus, that's where the true value is and that's where the long-term gains are. Because here you had short-term pain, but it translated into long-term gain. Pretty good, Jace. So I got that from when it said,

where it says something about value. Jesus was of greater value. Oh, in verse 26, when it says about Moses, he regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value. Yeah. Than the temporary pleasures of sin. Of course, and all this was temporary. All this bean flogged, the shanked.

short-term pain. But the pain was real. I mean, you read this stuff, it's awful. I mean, I don't even want to know what it feels like to be sawn into, but that's what it says. Yeah. I mean, that's about as bad as it gets. And they're, this is written like, oh, that was just part of the plan. This was part of the, part of the process.

They didn't even receive the promises. So there were some promises that were fulfilled as far as you trust God, we're going to conquer kingdoms and justice. is going to be a minister. You think you've had a bad day. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, they were tortured and all these things happened. So then, I mean, I just interrupted to say, but then that 39, so they were all committed

for the faith, because it seems to be a contradiction is what I was bringing up, when it says they gain what was promised, I think in the short term of God's will, of them being used as sacrificial lambs. But then when he gets to 39, they were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. I mean, don't you think he's saying the long-term effects of having Jesus as forgiveness and resurrection and the Holy Spirit indwelling you because of that? I mean.

Yeah. What he's saying is, is like Sadie's lesson, that God has been making promises throughout human history. And so some of those promises were really. by people. When they went into Canaan, that was God giving his promise that that would be their land, and it became their land. So you had all those promises. But that was a shadow. That was a shadow of the ultimate promise. Yeah, I was trying to explain that. Because it does seem like, well, wait a minute, you know, we're. None of this worked if the promise about sending Jesus to this earth

wouldn't have happened. None of these promises empty. But, well, And that blood flowed from Jesus. That's what sealed the deal. Because we've been talking about it all along, the whole book of Hebrews. He swore by himself. He swore by himself. But all those promises were just to prepare you for the big promise. Yep.

Which is why, I mean, we keep saying this, but keep going back to that Paul's reference in Corinthians where he said, God's promises are not yes and no. In Jesus, they're always yes. Yep. So when you sit around and imagine or think up things that you get in Jesus, it's yep, yep. You can sit there for days for weeks and months and years and try to imagine positive things that are going to happen as a result of Jesus, and you're going to say, yep, yeah, okay, yes. And so even if the negative things that come up, well, what about like all this?

That's why I think this is a, it's a deep, but it's a beautiful written explanation on why you're blessed, despite extreme difficulty happened to you as a result of your faith in God. Because you're like, well, this just can't have a happy in it. It does in Christ. Yep. I mean, so I think it has everything as far as the argument. that the world says, I think it addresses that here. Because they're like, well, if God is for you, because that's usually what they do. Well, how do bad things happen?

Why are you suffering? Why is everybody hollering at you? Because that's going to lead us in the chapter 12. Now, when it says, therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, I think most people immediately think to what I don't think this means, which is all these people sitting in the, a stadium, which is the heavenly stadium, just watching us. No.

Yeah, they're not watching. No. But I do think since we are running the race, and it says, so let's fix it, we're staring at. I do think there is a Super Bowl that happens every day, and we're running that race. But the crowd that's watching us here, most of them are booing. You know what I mean? They're not at. But we're having this bowl-like, and to me it's like to make this football efforts of the stadium because I like that.

These are like the people in the Hall of Fame from the football. They've gone on. We know that this will work. Now, I'm trying to use a physical earthly thing as football that's not going to apply in every sense, but it's the same principle. You know, they call it the Hall of Fame. This is the Hall of Faith. but our when we're in the game you know there's going to be more booze than cheers but the people cheering they need to be on the field i mean that that that's the point here as we're you know doing this

and we have this legacy but i i do believe that and the goal is not football it's jesus and to further your point you talk to a hall of fame person they're always talking about how much the game gave them and how much they love younger players and the next generation And that's the way that the Bible looks at it. People that are believers in God, no matter what era they lived in or what happened to them, they're always talking about the good of God and hoping that future people understand what they understood. Most of these Hall of Famers, too, are not full of pride. No.

They're decent. Very humble. And they're humble. Well, that's why it says when we run the race in Chapter 2, you need to get the weights off of you and the sin that so easily entangles them. you're not going to be able to perform if you go out there and, you know, try to carry a football to get back to that reference with like a hundred pound, you know, weight on your back and your feet are all tangled up in some strings. It's interesting, Jay's when they train, you see them.

They are having all that, the cords and the stuff on the running back, you know. But he just does that. So when the game time comes, nothing's going to slow him down. It's pretty amazing. And the difference is we go out there and we're not carrying a ball of the go line. And we're just, we're saying Jesus as loud as possible. We're living for you. That is the game.

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