Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 541 | Phil's Secret Stash, Jase's Guide to Entertaining Strangers & Jep Finds Real Treasure!

Episode Date: September 4, 2022

Jase can't believe the overwhelming mosquito population after the intense Louisiana rains. Phil talks about the finer points of using and maintaining a hidden stash of women's perfume for an unusual and pragmatic purpose. Jase gets excited for Jep about the remarkable 1800s find he made while metal detecting! Ryan Lee joins the studio to illustrate how the earthly kingdoms fade into the background when you focus on God's kingdom and how you can receive an eternal and unshakable citizenship. And Jase talks about the importance of entertaining strangers — and that they may not be human at all! Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So Jay, I'm down at the southern layer. I got a new little setup. There's a weeded outside my window, which is, I guess that's the travails of living in the neighborhood.

Do you like my new little setup? What do you think about my, one of our fans right behind my head here, somebody sent us that gospel presentation, which I thought was really cool. Can you all see it? Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you. I'm sorry, I don't remember your name, but it's an awesome piece. So I appreciate you sending that to us. We try to incorporate some of our stuff we get from Unashamed Nation into our sets. Is that Jep and Jessica over your left shoulder? Actually, that's a younger rendering of me and Lisa that someone gave me. It looks like from a distance. Now, my eyes are going bad. I would have thought that was Jeff. Do you have a bit there? Well, yeah, they made, They made us look younger, for sure. I thought it was just kind of funny because it was like they put us in the medieval setting. Well, here's a tip.

When they do paintings, it should actually look somewhat like you. Well, I mean, I looked like that at one time. That's not always been old and great. I mean, just because you're not a heavy man doesn't mean that, you know, things change over time. Let's give me the next shirt. I'm not a heavy man. Dad, I have laughed about that line. Since the last podcast we did, when you said that, it was just the way you said it.

It just struck a court and all since a whole week has gone by. You have to have some context here. Your wife brings in a small barrel of dusted donuts. And you, in a matter of five minutes, inhale the entire pack, you tend to, people who do that have large tummies, large bellies. But I said, well, he's not a heavy man. I mean, where he'd it go? Well, y'all had to go there.

That's a classic. Dad just showed you how Robertson's embellish the story. We went from a bag of donuts to a large barrel inhaled in five minutes. And I was starting to say, if you keep that up, you will not be a, you will be a heavy man. Well, the first thing that Missy said when I got home when I walked in, she said, well, you can rest assured this. I'll never buy another bag of those donuts. I said, noted. I'm sorry, Jayce.

I have ended any chance of you eating a future powder donut at your house, unless you buy it yourself. I don't think that was necessarily a negative because I can't help it. I'm going to eat that whole bag. I mean, there's a certain age you get where you got to just show some kind of restraint in some way. So you, you've been treasure hunt. Tell us about that. I did. I went this weekend. So we're, I mean, you want to, you know, we did the show and it, it didn't turn into work, but it seemed a little bit like work when you're spending the better part of the 24-hour day doing a venture for most weeks.

And so just for fun, we got the band together. And, I mean, it was spectacular. And O. Jep, who we keep dubbing the rookie, had a spectacular day. He found a nice silver. I'm not sure what it was. I mean, I think it was either a pendant or just an oversized ring. Real silver. Oh, yeah, silver.

It has back in the day, and I mean 1800s, it'll have either sterling or 925 somewhere on it, representing the authenticity of silver. But it had... That means someone in the higher military echelon had it on? No, I mean, it just... This was somebody with a lot of money. But here's what's crazy. Some kind of visiting ambassador who got this...

If you got silver on your chest hanging there, it's... And then I found a ring, but I found a half dollar, 18 something. And I'm pretty sure I might have found a two-cent piece, which is they only made those in one year. I mean, for one year. I think it was 18. I don't want to quote it because I can't remember,

but I think it was 1860 something. It looked like that would be worth a little jack. Well, it's not in good shape. It just, I said I think, because we're magnifying glass. So, boy, we were cackling. So it seemed like we were filming, but we were actually just, just having fun.

It isn't an all-day adventure, filled with a lot of dancing and hooping and hollering. But it's rain so much, it's so easy now because the ground is soft. But I will tell you this. Every time you take a step, I don't know what happened with this rain, but it has spawned off a mighty throng of mosquitoes, as in like plague-like. Tell me about it. Oh, they've been on you too?

What are you talking about? I mean, I look down a couple times. Ten-age rain in August. There are hundreds on me. Oh, yeah, there's millions. We figured out that the woman didn't do it for to run mosquitoes off, but it actually works. What's that woman? Well, we're back on the, we're back on the woman's, what was the, the half-necked women, perfume.

What's it called? Victoria's Secret. Victoria's Secret. Victoria came out with this stuff, but if you douse yourself with it, mosquitoes with flea, flee from that. I never figured that out because it doesn't look like to me that, there was many secrets being kept along that line. Victoria's secret is not very well kept. No.

And people fell for it. In this part of the world, we use Victoria's... I will reveal the secret. We don't want that known for people because if somebody sees you a mail putting Victoria's Secret, it could cause some problems. Bill, if somebody sees you in a Victoria's Secret store trying to buy that, look, somebody's going to call 911 and rightful. You will be arrested if you try that day.

But anyway, it does. It works as a mosquito repellent. That's what's so funny. It's feel like I would never do it. But you would put the hit out and sanction someone else to go do it and feel justified. I just didn't want to have it known that you put women's, what they call it? Perfume. Perfume.

A grown man. Well, you do. I just told it to like a million people. That's why I wanted them to know if, you know, it works for mosquito dope. That's what that's far. I'm redneck saying it'll work. You ever wanted to know what it feels like to have your guilty conscience come out loud? This is it.

This is good training. It's like a counseling session. So I have a feeling that Dan maybe is. a man that's had to make a few Victoria's Secret runs. Exactly. That's why I'm saying. You're putting him in an awkward situation because people say, no, what are you here for? And he's like, well, I'm actually here because my boss sent me to buy some perfume,

so to keep the mosquitoes away from us. And then the receptionist goes, oh, yeah, that's nice. Yeah, sure. I don't believe you. You come into the redneck camp and in the middle of it, and one of the rigs, there's a bottle of Victoria's Secret, there are people who look over there and say, what's this all about? And then you're going to tell them that story.

But Phil, most people, they're not going to believe you. Well, I said, when the mosquitoes are eating them up, you say, put a little of that on that'll work. But don't tell anybody, but do it. All right. So I guess, I guess, Jay, that would be a new sponsor on that family treasure. Well, that's the question I've been getting a lot is whether we're going to do any more shows and all. that's up to y'all i mean if you want to go wherever you would go and say if the outcry is great i mean you might can talk me into it but i'm going to have to feel let's face it jays unashamed nation

was the birthplace of this show that's now on you know fox nation it's amazing yeah i mean our audience is the ones that said thumbs up go for it while you're there i just did an interview and they did 20 questions and they asked me 20 questions about the show and treasure hunting, but one of them was how did this get started? So I'm not sure off the top of my head what magazine this is going to be in. Are you willing to display the text in 2nd Corinthiansthia chapter 4? We have, Jason, you already have this treasure. You're looking in the dirt. You already have the treasure in jars of clay because we're made from the dust of the earth to show, and you need to do it on your show that this all surpassing power is from God and not from us. We're hard, Jace, are you hard pressed

on every side, but not crushed? Are you perplexed, son, but not in despair? Are you persecuted, Jace, but not abandoned? You're being struck down by the forces of evil, but not destroyed, because you always carry around on your body, TV show or not, the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. That's pretty cool for a treasure hunter to know. Yeah. I already have the treasure. I'm just giving y'all a little up.

Can you slide that in there in the show? Jesus number one. You got it. He's treasure. Have you watched our show? Yep. Well, this was it. Y'all did pretty good, too, with it.

You did pretty good. Pretty good means really good in the real world. That's correct. Pretty good. It means awesome. Yep. Because I've seen pretty bad. I've seen that get thrown out to the dogs.

So what I'm trying to get to is it's a pretty good way through the particular show that y'all are doing that I was. I said, you know what, that's a pretty good idea. You ran up on other like-minded people. Y'all had a big catfish feed. That was one of them, you know. I thought, you know, that's bringing neighbors together. We need more of that.

Yeah, Phil, I think we have a believer here. That's good. Hey. No, this verse I've thought about, I mean, look, one of the questions I got asked when I said that about, about the how the show got started is I told the whole story about you know me and Zach kind of having I was just kidding around but I was like he said that I said if 20,000 people reached out and said do this show that I would do it but when the show was released the podcast it was more like 70,000

within the first couple of hours so we did the show. I mean, I thought if 70,000 people will stop what they're doing and say, do this, I just thought that was a good sign. Well, Jay's, you know, it's funny because I hadn't, I thought about this yesterday. I was watching a baseball game yesterday.

And it was on a exclusively on a streaming platform. You know, they're trying to do that to just keep pushing people, you know, to streaming platforms, which is what we're on. And that's also what your show's on is on Fox Nation. But it's this platform particular one. I'm not saying it is because I don't want people to go find these shows, but they were pushing their shows. And one of them was something about, I can't love Island or something.

But, I mean, basically it was just young people having sex with each other, the whole show. I mean, that was the implication, just from the, from me watching the promo. And then there was another one, the real wives of someplace. And I just, I was watching that. And I thought about y'all's show and I thought, this other stuff is just pure trash. I mean, like, I can't imagine anybody wanting to watch it. But then obviously it's on, you know, it's streaming so people are watching it. But I thought compared to what y'all are doing, both with a great theme of a spiritual theme,

but then also camaraderie and brotherhood. You can tell you. I don't know. I mean, it just made you shine like new money. You got to remember in TV, I learned this pretty quick. People, they're all up for the thrill of victory or the agony of defeat. They either want to see you soar on mountains on the wings of Eagles or they want to see a train go off the track. Either one is interesting.

And so especially in the spiritual war that we have of good and evil, it's a little more the good is there's very few shows out there. Everything is tied to depravity, except the show you have, y'all have. I looked at that. I said there's no depravity there. Most shows. Well, that was free of what you're right, dad. That was front and center on these other things.

And Jason's right. I mean, I guess people watch that and them feel better about themselves. I don't know. But it just struck me when I kept seeing these promos pop up. I thought, man, I don't see much of this stuff, but this is just pure trash. I can't believe. I was saying it must not be that hard to get something on television. Oh, Jeff, I convinced me that he was, I was over at his house, you know, after the treasure hunt.

He's like, you ever seen this live PD or whatever? I didn't even know what he was talking about. He's like, and it's the best show. watched so we started watching it i was like jep this is you're you're you're watching the worst of humanity do the worst things imaginable which made me say now he's like well i'm in the police are you know they're they're here too i was like i know but yep this i mean because some of the things were just ridiculous but a guy got in this big rig you know and all the cops were chasing him and they kept trying to do the little spin out on him he's in not an 18 wheeler but like a big box and he was just running over him through him and Jeff's like I mean you don't think this this is exciting I was like yeah but it's kind of sad at the same time you know and so finally the guy jumps out of the truck while it's going but there's so many police around that he zigged when he should have zagged and they clipped him you know one of the vehicles clipped him

He just does a double back flip on the highway, and then they just go, and he's like, Jeff said, no, that's exciting. I was like, yeah, why are you doing this to yourself? I'm with you, Jay, I just don't like watching other people's calamity. Well, what y'all are going to go with any kind of TV show perversion has gone mainstream, Jay, since you were a boy. It's that quick. Yeah, I guess. Version has gone mainstream. At least what y'all are doing, digging around in the dirt.

You're looking around in the dirt. Well, I wanted to say before we take a break, look, I heard one of the best sermons I've heard in a long time yesterday, it was on the kingdom. And we're in a place in our text in Hebrews 12 that's talking about the kingdom that we only mentioned. And I think we need to talk about that. I think so, too. And just to show you how fluid we are on Unashamed Nation, Jace, and Jace called me last night like at 9 o'clock, and we had this discussion. So I texted Ryan Lee, who was the deliverer of that sermon, and he said he could come out. So when we come back from our break, Ryan's going to join us.

We're going to talk about kingdom living. So we're welcoming Ryan Lee into the house. Good to have you back. Ryan. Ryan is the – he wears many hats at White's Ferry Road. He is the director of One Kingdom, which we talk a lot about on here. He's also one of our worship leaders, and he's a pretty good speaker. as well. So he's got a lot of talent. But, you know, Ryan, we started a few weeks back. We got together. And we were really just talking about one kingdom Sunday because that's coming up October 2nd at White's Ferry Road. And we just kind of got to, it was really just kind of like we did our podcast. We were just spitballing and noodling ideas. And we came up with a series called Kingdom Life. And you kicked it off yesterday. And so Jay's texted me last night. And he was like, did you hear it Ryan sermon? I said, no, we had people over here working at the house. I didn't get a chance to watch it yet. And, uh,

which I did this morning. But he was like, man, he was right where we were on the last podcast. I said, well, let's see if we can get him on the podcast and we'll talk about it. So, Jay, you can tell what kind of what struck you about. So it was fun to get a text at 9 o'clock the night before. Hey, let's, let's do a podcast in the morning. But, you know, I'm always ready for you, Al. I'm going to super-minute.

I appreciate it. I thought, wow. This make things happen, man. Movers and shakers, Jays. Escalated quickly. No, I was really excited. I was like the guy, because I watched it on. line and I thought about that movie because missy was like boy you're into this I was like the guy

remember in the movie Hoosiers when the guy who was uh he he was the coach but the deal was made that he had he was the assistant coach so jean hackman was the i didn't plan on saying this so now i'm trying to think of all these key people in the movie jean hackman yeah it was the coach well he hired his assistant but because he knew everything you know he said you know we make the pick fence and you go around and but he was a drunk and so he's like you gotta quit drinking so the point i'm making though is is so he finally they kick him off the team and he's at the rehab but he's listening to the game because i was at home i was listening to the game but about i would say four or five minutes into your sermon i started getting up i'm thought okay now and then i was like

that guy in the rehab i'm like now we're talking about Here we go. Yeah. So, of course, Missy, who's in the other room is like, what are you doing? And I said, when you're at your house and you're watching, you can get up and move around. And I was preaching with you. I was like, now this, we need Ryan Lee more. I was like, he's the worship leader.

That was how this escalated. So then it hit me this morning that I was like that old man walking around his room by myself muttering encouragement like yes well al always says that you got to leave a mad sad or glad right so i hope that was one of the three for you jays oh no i was glad i was uh i was very the the subject matter which i would love to discuss here because we've talked about this before on on podcast but we really didn't talk about it as much in 1228 which is where we at where we're at We were going to get to 13, but I think we should discuss it. Absolutely.

Well, that's what we kind of made inaudible. And we were going to talk about it anyway, Ryan, whether you said yes or no to coming on, but I appreciate you doing it because I would rather have you in person to do it. But one of the things I love, Ryan, when you started, you talked about the kingdom being position over place, which I thought was really a powerful point and the idea, because most people think of a kingdom, they think of a spot, you know, they think of some landmast. some conquered territory. So tell a little bit about that. And you define kingdom. Right. So that's one of the thing. And we were talking about this offline a little bit, how there's these little subtleties in scripture,

you know, in Hebrews 1228, therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom, not since we will receive a kingdom. You know, that's part of what we talked about yesterday was the kingdom is here and now. But one of the things that really, that we were able to dive into yesterday is, is what's the true meaning of definition? So the Greek word is Basileo. which means rule or authority. And that is, when you understand that, it changes the way that you receive contextually these scriptures about the kingdom.

Yeah. Because it's not a territory, like Alan's saying. It's not a place. I think in our feeble minds and our feeble understandings, when we hear the word kingdom, we think about kings and we think about territories. And we think about a place. Like if you enter, even some of the scripture,

to enter the kingdom of heaven, you think, I'm going to physically enter a place. And how do we get that? Even the Pharisees were like, well, when is the kingdom going to come so we can then enter it? Yeah. But when you understand the kingdom to be rule and reign and authority, it changes everything. That's why I was thinking about Matthew, you know, Matthew 7 where he says, Lord, you know,

not everybody that calls my name will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only those who do the will of God. Well, it makes a lot more sense when you think about the kingdom as a rule or reign or authority, because to enter the kingdom of heaven is just to surrender. render yourself to the king. To the king. And now you're under his authority, meaning that you've entered the kingdom. Well, you remember what the verse that passed on my head

when you talk about that is at Matthew 28. Now, this is post-resurrection. He's given a way to be forgiven for sin through his innocent sacrifice, death on a cross. Then he has shown, when you talk, because most people, when they think kings and kingdoms, they think of great wars and, And how do you win wars?

You kill other armies. You kill people. And here's the opposite thing happening where he's literally conquered death itself. He's been resurrected and he makes a statement, all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Now, therefore, he gives us our charge. So how can someone make that kind of statement? when you can redeem sin and the penalty of sin from a God is just and you can conquer the grave oh you're the you're the greatest king right that's ever walked and that were I ever come about

and all other kingdoms uh just fade away yeah in in the when you put it up against Jesus and that's what all of the prophecies in the Old Testament this is one of the things we talked about yesterday too is the idea the idea of the kingdom actually you know ignites the whole story of the Bible, right? And you brought up Daniel 2. Did you go Daniel 2.44, I believe, yeah. It says, in the time of those kings, so this is a prophecy, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom.

And why are you there? In the time of those kings, the Babylonians are ruling when Daniel said this. Then the Mito Persian Empire come along. Then the Greeks came along. Then the Romans came along. And that's the one that Daniel zeroes in on. on that fourth kingdom. And the time of that kingdom,

he'll set up a kingdom, but it'll last forever. I just thought I told him. And it says it will crush all those, you're right, it says that in previous, and you can figure all that out. They will crush all those kingdoms

and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. So why are you there, Jase? In lieu of Hebrews chapter 12, the last few verses there, about the kingdom, add to that, Jace, turn a couple of pages, and look at 2 Peter 1. Look at 2 Peter chapter 1. Let's see if it's as.

You're in 1st, Peter. Yeah. 2nd Peter chapter 1, start in the verse. It's a behavioral change. The behavior, if you notice in the Hebrews, as soon as he got through saying that, then the first thing he said was keep on loving each other. when he says we're receiving the kingdom. Don't forget to entertain strange.

All these behavioral changes. Well, start in 2nd Peter 1, 5 through 11. 5 through 11. Read that. Because that's critical. Hang on. Hang on. Before you read that, let's take a break.

As far as behavior. Here comes the kingdom. It's like the faith that was discussed in chapter 11, chapter 12, we're focusing on Jesus. there are hardships that we consider discipline, but we are. Love is right there in the middle of it. And then it produces love. So, yeah, the 2nd Peter 1, 5, for this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith, goodness, knowledge, self-control, perseverance, kind of what he does in Hebrews 13.

Yep, that's why I see. The godliness, brotherly kindness, and brotherly kindness, love. If you possess these things, in increasing measure, they'll keep you from becoming. ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of Jesus Christ. But if anybody's forgotten, he's nearsighted and blind has forgotten. He has been cleansed from his past sins. But to get to the kingdom, it goes down to verse 10. So be all the more eager to make your calling an election sure,

for if you do these things, you will never fall, which is faith of being sure we'll hope for and start what we do not see. and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There it is. But when you go back to Hebrews 12 and to the point, therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaking, because he had just listed the unseen realities, which is in verse 22, you've come to Mount Zion, which the heavenly Jerusalem, which represented where the king lived, right now? And then you have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly

to the church of the firstborn whose names are written in heaven. Because a lot of people say, well, the kingdom is the church because of what Peter said, I mean, Jesus said to Peter when he said, who do you say I am? Remember in Matthew, what is that, 16? 16. He said, you're the Lord. the son of the living God. And he's like, on this rock, going to build my church.

And a couple of verses later, I'll give you, Peter, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. He opened the door in Acts 2. So, but when you read in Hebrews 1222, it's bigger than that. You've come to this heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God, thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn. Yes, it's included. are written in heaven, you've come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect.

All those before and all those after. And he's not saying this is going to happen sometime in the future. It's already there. Well, and that's why I was going to. So look, we're in this time frame. One thing Ryan did in his lesson yesterday that we did a couple of podcasts ago is to give the context in Hebrews. And I just want to do that real quick.

But in chapter 1 in verse 3, he says the sun is the radius of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustained all things by his powerful word. After he provided purifications for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty in heaven. Now he goes on and even mentions the kingdom here. There's a quote in verse 8. Talking about your throne, O God will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom. So fast forward to Hebrews 12, too, after he goes through all these people of the past through faith, who only together with us, were they made perfect by Jesus' death, bound resurrection is implied in 11, 39, and 40.

Yep. So it's like, so we've seen these witnesses who witnessed God's promises being kept. it's like let us throw off the weights that weigh us down, the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance race marked out for us. We fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith, who for the joy set before him endure the cross, scorning its shame, and look, here it is again,

and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. So Ryan made this point yesterday that we're in between the right, right hand of God, which is where Jesus is now, and him coming back. Right. Yep. Well, what are we supposed to be doing here? And I made this point a couple weeks ago in the podcast that in actuality, you see that starting in Acts, where it's not, most people say, well, that's the Acts of the Apostles.

I believe it is the Acts of God, the Father, and Jesus at the right hand of God with the point out of the Holy Spirit. It's their acts beginning in the apostles in Acts 2, but carrying on to current day. Yeah. And so I believe Jesus is working at the right hand of God through us. That's why he gave us his spirit. We're his ambassadors. We're representing the kingdom of God here and now.

We are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken. God's making his appeal through us. That's right. Second Corinthians 5. And we talked about that yesterday was that we are Christ's ambassadors. We're not, you know, I think a lot of times we, I think about the Lord's prayer, you know, hollough be the name, thy kingdom come. When you think about the word thy kingdom come, it's like, or it hasn't arrived yet. Yeah.

So then we're waiting on it. Ambassadors don't operate once a week. Right. And that's what you know. Ambassadors, it's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. It's your life. you are. Kingdom life is not something that you do. Kingdom life is who you are. That's correct. It's part of your identity. And that's why Jesus talked so much about kingdom living. And he, in fact, even

knew, as he, in Matthew 13, when he talks about the parables soer, he already sets it up like, hey, this is going to be hard to understand. This is going to be tough. This is, you know, for your earthly minds, it's going to be a, this is going to be a difficult concept. That's why I'm going to talk about it in parables. That's why I'm going to talk about it a lot. And that was something that we talked about a little bit. bit offline was, you know, the gospel is of first importance. However, Jesus didn't preach the gospel. He is the gospel. Yeah. You know, that's what we were talking about. The gospel is a person. He kept saying, I am going to die and I am going to be buried. And I am going to be buried. Well, he did. But he talked about he kept home by the kingdom. You remember now? He said it was near. That's Matthew 3. When he starts his message, he's saying, repent for the kingdom of heaven is near. And then he's ready to roll.

You know what's right? He gets out of the water and he was near. But then he also said the kingdom is like. And you did a thing where, yeah, well, you got mustard seed. You've got a treasure. You've got a net in the water. Just the kingdom of heaven is like all these things. That's what he came to talk about.

It has to be seen. And I used the little thing. I didn't give them but an eight minute sermon yesterday. But it was about these issues. But I said, it's like if I'm walking down the road, most individuals in the current state of affairs in the United States of America would not look over if they saw me walking down the road. They wouldn't say to each other, there goes one of them ambassadors for Jesus there. No, they wouldn't think that at all.

Well, or an ambassador of the king. It has to be seen. I was trying to get a definition of him. The qualities have to be seen through human beings. He's making his appeal through us. Well, it can't be if there's not love there and remember those in prison and marriage should be honored. Right. You study their behavior and you say, hmm.

Right. And kingdom living is in all facets of life. And, you know, like next week, Alan, you're going to be preaching on kingdom life in our marriages. You know, it's the same thing that you're saying. Like, it has to permeate who you are, not what you do. So if your identity is a kingdom man, your identity is a kingdom woman, then everything that you do is kingdom work. Everywhere you step foot is kingdom ground because you're, that it's just who you are. You can't help it. And one of the things I talked about yesterday was a king doesn't, turn his resume in to be a king, right? He doesn't apply for the job. He's born into royalty. Yep. And so to really understand kingdom living, you have to surrender your life to Jesus Christ and be born again. And when you're born again, when you're adopted into his sonship, you are royalty. You are a king.

You're an heir to the throne. It's now who you are, not what you do. And you're right. His reign, the plan was before creation. So he's always been set up to be the king. Let's take a break. Ryan, I want you to tell that you had a great illustration about, because you just mentioned a minute ago, the human understanding when Jesus first, you know, showed up was very difficult. You had a great illustration about the new LSU coach.

Tell that, because I thought that was really good. I mean, that's a good illustration can really, you know, bring it to light. So I thought that was pretty good. I agree. Set that up because that was well. So look, we, we were talking about kingdom living is counterculture, right? Jesus was counterculture. Oh, yeah.

He came to turn everything upside down. He flipped everything on its head. You look at the way he handled the Samaritan woman at the well. That's one of the best examples. She's a sinner. She's got five husbands. She's living with another man. She's Samaritan, which is a no-boino for the Jews.

And she's a woman. Strike one, strike two, strike three. So Jesus, he didn't care about all the what it should look like. He was here to turn all that upside down. And it really hacked the Pharisees off. because he was welcoming everybody into the kingdom that would surrender to him. And I said it was a lot like, okay, so Brian Kelly, brand new coach at LSU. It's college football season.

I know when this podcast release will be Wednesday, I think, you know, we're fired up Saturday. I think LSU is playing Florida State. Is that right now? I think they play on Sunday. Yeah, they're playing on Sunday this week in New Orleans. But it would be like Brian Kelly walking in. He's a brand new coach. He hasn't coached his first game yet into tie.

Stadium, Baton Rouge, 100,000 people. He walks out to the 50-yard line. He says, you know what, everybody? Roll-tide. That would be a problem. He wouldn't even make it out there alive. I've lived in Louisiana long enough. I know he'd probably get crucified for that.

They would drag him off and throw them off a cliff. But that's what it probably felt like for the Pharisees when Jesus came and said, you know what? My kingdom is available to. everyone and not just the Jews, not just the scholars. He was here to flip everything on his head. Well, that's why, and I don't want to jump ahead because we'll talk about this, but that's why the next couple of verses of 13 when it said, don't forget to entertain strangers, well, you got to remember, I know who that's geared toward, because from this Jewish

system that they were under, they were perfectly happy with the people around us. And the last thing they would want to be doing is to be welcoming strangers, especially if they were from a different ethnicity. There was a wall. It's going to mention the coming up. They went outside the gate because if you stay inside it, man, they had some strict rules on that. Well, when he said that in 13-1, he said, keep on loving each other as brothers. you know, that which is the Greek word, Philadelphia, which is brotherly love.

But when you think about the phobia or hate or of strangers, that's xenophobia. And that's basically what he was combating right there. Because to your point, this religion wasn't accepting. Right. The one that they came out of. It was like, we're nationalistic. Yeah. And so when Jesus came along and they're like, oh, what do you mean?

Look at the people you're eating with. Look at the people you're talking to. Whoops. Wrong color. Wrong color. Wrong color. Call them. And they had done so much work, too.

You know, I'm thinking about, you know, it's going to turn on the year. The January is going to come up and we're all going to start to try to read our Bible all the way through. Everyone's going to do the Genesis. You know, and how many people make it, you know, out of Leviticus, right? But these guys had memorized all that. Yeah. Right? So these guys are like really new their stuff. And then Jesus comes and says, yeah, I'm not, I'm not after works. I'm after matters of the heart. And these scriptures are talking about me. And you don't come to me. You think the scriptures to save you. Yeah. Hey. He said that, right? And John, was that John? Jays? Where he said, you diligently search the scriptures, but you're missing, you're missing the points. Yeah, that's John five. Yeah. Yeah, that's John five. Well, and that part of counterculture is love, because our God is love. Right. And, you know, Jesus someone says, I love your neighbor, love your enemies. And I think about, you know, Larry Bowles was on your podcast a few weeks ago. And, you know, he and I worked together with one kingdom in Athens and with the refugee ministry. And the last time I was over there, I really made it to point a point to talk to every refugee and ask them the same question. I said, what was it about Jesus? Because they're all believers and followers now. They're all disciples of Christ. And I just want to know what was it? Because they

came out of such a strict you know Islam is not a it is part of your identity it's hard to leave that especially when your family is is going to hate you for it so I asked every one of them what was it and and there were different versions of the answer but it was all the same answer it was love because I've never received love I've never been welcomed into a family like this before they had lived with death and destruction all their life Exactly. And you go back to the, you know, John 13, that verse, that scripture becomes so much more real. They'll know that you're my disciples by your love. And that's, to me, that's counterculture because our culture, we put up defenses, we put up walls, we keep distances, we don't let everybody in. We don't, we're not vulnerable. Well, they just redefine love, too, you know, in our culture. It's usually sex or who you have sex with or, you know, love. When you start treating.

everyone as a gift of God and with respect and patience and forgiveness. And I mean, because let's face it, there's a lot of people I love, you know, in the kingdom that I probably didn't like at some point in the venture. But you would only get that from the Holy Spirit of God because if it was up to me, I'd be like, no, this person is just too annoying, you know. But you do see the growth in people. What I want to say four weeks, because we don't have much time left, is because I think you had a really good point, because a lot of people are wondering, well, I thought this, you know, the kingdom, they look at it as a futuristic thing only. But you had a good point that come from Luke 17, 20, and 21.

I want you to go through that. Because I've given the same thing. Before we do that, let's take our last break. I'll read mine, but your version is a little. What version to use? I was in IV, but I think my name. my, it's that newer and everything, but I brought the old school in I of V Jase because I'm, I'm about that old school in I.

Well, my, it's just falling apart. It's hard to preach when it's like, I got a Jace Bible, you know, it just falls apart like this. But it's hard to preach with that. So I had to bring the newer one, but I like that old school in. All right, I got you. So Luke 1720 says, once having been asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, the kingdom of God does not come with your careful. observation, I think, well, yours yesterday said visibly.

Yeah. Is that what yours says, Al? Does not come visibly. Yeah, mine says careful observation. Nor will people say, here it is, or there it is, because the kingdom of God is within you, or yours says, in your midst. Yeah. So now, what was the setup that you did to that? I personally like, you know, I told you, I'm an old school NIV from the way back, okay.

I like the way it reads here where it says the kingdom of God is within you. Yeah. Because if we're really understanding the word kingdom and understanding we're under the rule, the reign of authority of Jesus Christ, and we have the Holy Spirit and dwell within us, then everything should change for us. Everything should look different for us. The kingdom of God is not this far away place that we're trying to get to. I think as a child for me, in my early understanding,

I only loved God because I was trying to get to heaven. You know, like, okay, that's the goal in life. All right, I just want to get to heaven. And not go to hell. And not, yeah, that's actually real talk right there. Really, I just didn't want to go to hell. Well, right. Which I think there is something to that as early on.

Because look, it is a reality. Well, and there's, you know, that's a good understanding of discipline, too. I mean, you need to have that fear of the Lord, for sure. but that can't be the basis of how you live your life. The basis of how you live your life is a relationship with Jesus. Because then you ask yourself the question, well, would you want to go to heaven

if Jesus wasn't there? No. No, I don't want to be up there. I think that is heaven. Well, that's like really think about the wrath of God. The wrath of God is simply, you know, Romans 1 that he'll just turn away from you. If he's not there, that's his rat.

So I don't want any part of that. But when you understand that the kingdom is actually living within you. It's not this place that you're trying to get to, that you're actually living kingdom life here and now. The Hebrew writer makes a point. It gives you the information, and it solidifies.

It's where rest is. Because as opposed to works, to try to reach God by your works. I mean, it's a nightmare because you keep failing. You say, well, where's the rest in all this? Well, the Hebrew writer makes a point of that. Yeah. That's where rest is.

Well, the only time I've ever seen zero fear. It's not on your works. The only time I've seen zero fear from people on their deathbed, which we've been called to do many times, was really, I don't even know how to describe them, but just warriors for the Lord who had so much faith that literally death was not a problem in their mind. or demeanor. And, you know, I think about Kathy Freeman. I mean, she literally had a couple days to live. And there was zero fear before eyes. And it was it was captivating to see that someone,

because it's the same reason I believe Enoch is in this list and the faith. I just think there's a point in there where you believe so much, you have trusted so much in the presence of God and that he's with you, that he indwells you and that you're going to live forever, there is zero fear of something like death. And that's why these martyrs, I think they carried the same thing. And I've seen that in real life. And look, it was very moving to me because I thought, these people are a part of the

kingdom of God. I'm looking at them. And they're very encouraging because they're fixing to die and they don't care about that. We don't want you to be ignorant about that. those who fall asleep or to grieve like the rest of men who have no hope. We believe Jesus died and rose again. So we believe when he comes with his people, you say, the ones, the souls that have gone on before, this mighty throne.

And the angels in heaven, the what Hebrew talked about, when you see that, you're like, and you know that, you say, let her rip, you know. And let her rip. Jace, the, you know, Alan, we tease a little bit, One Kingdom Sunday is coming up. and that's a big October 2nd, which we're very excited about. And one of the themes for that day is going to be triumph and victory. And what you're talking about it, you know, we're going to be really honing on the lion and the lamb that the lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has triumphed. But also in Revelation 1211, where we say they triumphed by the blood of the lamb and the word of the testimony.

And then the back half to that is they did not love their lives. so much as to shrink back from death. You know, and that's, to me, that's, that's, that's frontline kingdom living. That's frontline kingdom living. And look, in Hebrews, you know what led to this, this faith-filled chapter and this reflection to Jesus and then ultimately the reality of us being a part of the kingdom here on earth, the heavenly kingdom, is he said the same thing in chapter 10. remember what started all this in verse 38.

But my righteous one, he makes this quote, will live by faith. And if he shrinks back, I will not be pleased with him. But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved. So then he goes through all this faith. He focuses on Jesus. And then he's like, do you realize what you're a part of right now on the earth? And you say, well, it doesn't look like that.

Yeah, because it's done through faith. These are unseen realities. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, it's something that when you see people really believe, it's, it's inspiring. It is. Yeah. What else, it was, it was, well, before we go, and there's a couple things I want to talk about and we'll have to do some of it in the overtime, because you just have a couple of minutes left. But you, you mentioned, we had Rucker on the podcast a few weeks back.

You got a lot of Brian. People loved his story. And you made a really good point. And by the way, from your sermon, you also mentioned one of our sisters, Mindy Lancash, which I got to get her on our podcast to tell her story. It's amazing too. But you mentioned how different people come together in kingdom living.

And I thought that was interesting. We'll close out with that. Tell a little bit about that. It's counterculture again. You know, you guys got had Ruck on here. Ruck is one of my best friends in the world now. And there's no reason why we should be.

Yeah, we told his story. Because look, I've been knowing him for a while, but I didn't know the details of it's wild. We looked at a lot. He was basically a gangbanger. Not basically. He was a gangbanger. Yeah. And a drug dealer and has spent time in prison and has been incarcerated for some really tough things.

I can't identify with that. Yeah. You told your story, which I'd never heard those details. Well, and I'm a different guy, too. You know, I'm from, I joked around. I'm from Florida, but I'm not from your panhandle, Florida. You know, that, you know, that Pensacola, Pico. That's where I'm at.

Yeah, that's, you know. But Ryan, tell the guy, tell about the guy when you're going to a, to college. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kind of a conservative church group. And just tell what the question he asked you. I'll say that. I'm, I'm Chinese American.

So for those of you listen on the podcast that aren't watching on YouTube or, or, or anywhere else, I'm Chinese American. I kind of look Chinese, I guess, if you, if you have that context. Not really a little bit. It just kind of look different, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm 6-4, too. So most of my Chinese brethren are not over six feet.

A lot of 6-4 Chinese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're a rare, I'm a rare breed. So I go to Harding University, which is in Arkansas, by the way. And I'm at this freshman orientation, and they're saying, all right, meet and greet, meet some people. And I meet this dude who has clearly never left the state of Arkansas. Yeah. And I love Arkansas.

I spend a lot of time in Arkansas. But he just kind of looks at me. He's like, hey, man. what are you? No, what kind of question? That's a feel question. Like, okay. I was just look at him as like, I'm a freshman.

Yeah. What do you? I know, he's like, no, no, no, no, man. Where are you from? Florida. Yeah, like, I just couldn't, I look at him like, I kind of know what he's getting at, but I'm kind of messing with him too.

Like, but you just, you know, when we see people that are different than us, we got a lot of time to. Why do we do that? You know, me? And most people would have been offended by somebody asking that. Yeah. I'm just kind of.

you from yeah well and that that's that's a thing but that's what the kingdom does you know you you guys had rucker on here rucker uh is from houston and he's he's he's not you know he he's kind of an evasion descent too he's he's he's from that uh middle eastern portion of the world and uh and he's again a gangbanger drug dealer i'm here from orlando when i'm in college i had bleach blonde tips and earrings in both ears and a punk rock band like we we just we should not have been friends. Yeah. And yet the kingdom has united us. And in fact, Alan, I'm sure you do this as a preacher. I basically preach my whole sermon to Rucker this week because he's a great communicator as well. And he gave me feedback and it was just, that's my dude, you know. But there's

no reason why we should be close except for the blood of Jesus. And that's what counterculture living really is. So hold that thought, Ryan, that's excellent. We'll, we're going to, I'll talk a little bit more about that in the overtime. And that's blazedtv.com slash unashamed if you want to follow us over. And I also want you're a worship leader. So we're talking about kingdom. The last verse there talks about worship. So I want to get into that a little bit with you as well. So if you want to follow us over, we've got a few more minutes with Ryan in our overtime. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click that little bell to get notice.

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