Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 550 | Jase Keeps These Key Ingredients in His Truck & Missy’s First Impression of Phil and Kay

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

Al accuses Jase of having hoarding tendencies, just like Miss Kay, but Jase builds a solid case for why he might need any of the things he keeps in his truck, especially when he is in town! Jase remembers Missy's first time at a Robertson family game night and why she walked away concerned for Phil and Miss Kay's marriage. Jase and Al discuss the tendency people have to separate emotions from worshipping in song. And Phil explores the purpose of multiple eyewitness accounts recorded of Jesus's ministry. Plus, how is realistic leadership similar to eating a fish? -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So this last week that we had announced on here on the podcast that you and mom had been working across the river at one of our locations over there, which is right next to the college campus. And so y'all have been over there about three years doing good work, both in the community and also just kind of be in a place for people to come to that want to hear the gospel. So we moved you guys back over to WFR. And so was your first Sunday, this last Sunday. I happened to be preaching as well. So it was great. And you kind of have two in churches, there's kind of two launch points.

You have the new year because people are thinking about, you know, New Year, January 1st. And then you also have the first of September because school's back. People are back home from vacation. So it's kind of a launch time. And we had a lot of people there that listen to the podcast. And Jay's the ones that you had that T-shirt. that they had homemade t-shirts that said no skeletons in Jesus or whatever it was. And what was that statement?

No skeletons. With Jesus, I think. There was another slogan. I came up. Yeah. Check my messages that I sent myself. So that family was there and she had a shirt. She walked up.

I didn't know they were the same ones that had met Jace earlier and had a t-shirt. It said unhinged and unashamed. And I was a look at her. I was walking out of the door. I just kicked off your class. And I said, you've come to the right place, girl. There was about 300 who were converted across the river over there. So now we're back at White's Ferry Road proper right next to it.

Our main campus. It starts about 9 o'clock, if any fell interested. You want to drive down. People from all over the world have shown up, you know. Yeah, we encourage you to come and visit us. Dad's got this class. We call it the Unashamed Bible Study. Yeah.

No skeletons in the closet or the grave in Jesus. Oh, there you go. Jay's original. You know how I know how I know that? I sent myself a message. So I have that documented. If you understood a cell phone, you could do that.

That's the first step towards to mention when you start texting yourself because you can't remember any other way. That's the first step. She's showing me the downside of not having a cell phone. Yep. So anyway, yeah, it's an unashamed Bible study. We do it every week. Dad's, he rarely goes anywhere, so he'll be doing that every week.

He just, you know, talks about whatever is going on his life. And, of course, it always links back to the gospel. So we encourage you guys if you ever come to visit us. And we'll have people that are guys where you need to go. So we go over to the service, which is after the Bible class. And so I'm about to get up and preach. And we have, we videotape our announcements. And so in the announcements, there's one of our sisters and our daughter, we're doing the announcements.

And so she's doing the thing with she says, we're so excited to have, you know, Philling Kay Robertson back over in our main campus today. So, so y'all made the announcements, which I thought that was comical. So when I got up, mom was sitting over here on the front left and she had her little troop,

you know, her entourage that she runs with. And I said, well, mom, you made the announcements. That's pretty impressive. And you're here. And, of course,

you know, mom, and I said, why don't you stand up, you know, and let people recognize. So mom stands up and, look,

she was doing the queen wave, you know, to the, and everybody's clapping and cheering, you know. So I thought that was pretty cool that, you know, that's how much people love y'all, you know. And look, y'all kind of been from our perspective in the wilderness for three years. And now you're back in the, back in the main campus, which is good. A lot of the ones converted over on the other side of the river. Came with it.

Came with you. Speaking of memory loss and having trouble remembering, because I know I'm getting that. I guess I just triggered a memory. No, from my mom who. You know, half the story she tells now, I'm like, I'm not sure that's exactly how that went down. But since I'm headed there myself, so I had an embarrassing moment yesterday because this is a story I shared before. And I mean, now hindsight is 2020, I think. That was a joke.

But you remember the day that I couldn't figure out what was wrong, my seatbelt? because I had gotten a bag of dog food and I had put it in the passenger seat. Yeah. Well, yesterday, I'm going from, I had picked up some bottles of water cases because, you know, in our hometown, you can't drink the water. That's right. It sounds like a third world country, and I apologize for everyone who viz. And that's why every store you go in, have you noticed, there's cases of bottle water. Oh, I know.

Because you're right. I hadn't drank the water. All these people are listening to the podcast, and they're coming down to get baptized. I got two recommendations, B-Y-O-W, and hold your breath when you're baptized, which would be the perfect place to go, but we just don't want you to intake that.

So we were out of water, and we have a little baby, so they got a bottle water, and it can't be cold. So I make a water run. Well, here's the embarrassing part, and you've got to be willing to laugh at yourself, I think, because of our weaknesses.

And one of my weaknesses is I can't remember anything. So I'm driving back from the store, I got all this water, and my seatbelt thing keeps going off. And I'm like, I have my seatbelt on. So I unclicked it. You know, I take it out. And, of course, the timing of this is incredible. Because I'm sitting here, risk of my life,

trying to get my seat belts because it was just bha-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-you know they got these cars now where oh you're going to wear the seatbelt or just die of annoying you can't ignore it yeah well you either do this or go to the psychiatric ward because you can't get this sound out of your head and I fool with that thing all the way and so when I turn into our subdivision where there's a cop there when I look up I'm like it looked like I was going to put my seatbelt on oh because I see the police I'm only going to put it and he point points at me.

And I thought, I didn't have time to roll down my window and say, hey, the seatbelt sound will not quit going off in my ears. And so finally, when I pull up, I'm like, there's something. I've got to get this looked into. And then I realized, I have two cases of water in the passenger seat. This stupid sensor thinks that there's a person sitting in. the seat. Right. And so I just, in that moment, I was by myself, it wasn't a fit of rage, but I said,

the waters do not need to wear a seatbelt. You're just railing at general technology. I don't put seatbelts over cases of water. You idiot. Yeah. So then I walked in and, of course, Missy's like, who are you hollering at? I said, I'm hollering at that computer chip in my truck who thinks that those. Those two cases of water need a seatbelt.

She went, that's ridiculous. I said, the chip or me? She said both. Well, the sad thing is it's the second time you've done it. It's not like you should have learned it from the dog. Well, it was my point why I brought it up. You would think at some point I'd say, oh, I've been through this with the dog food. But since it was water, it camouflaged itself and it got me again.

Which is funny, I never thought about it, Jay, because I never had that issue. but I always put stuff in the back seat. I never put anything in the front seat. So I guess it's just what you. The back seat is full. Yeah, well, that's the difference in me and you. My back seat is always empty. The trunk with the bedliner is full.

So I put things in the front seat. By the way, the more you're talking, speaking of you and mom, your embellishment tendencies, that's her tendency too. You can never put anything in mom's car because it's always full of stuff already. That's correct.

I have another job that I do. She's not a hoarder, but she says she has holding tendencies. I mean, I'm not a hoarder, but I metal detect, and there's a lot of equipment that goes with that. I have ice chests, and I always want to be, especially when hunting season is getting in here, like, I'm going to go dove hunting today.

Well, I have all my gear ready for that occurrence, because I don't want to be going down the road and see a bunch of doves, and then I say, oh, I don't have my stuff. No, I'm ready at all time. I'm like that during hunting season. So I live in that truck. Well, I wish I'm leaving town, so I wish I wasn't if you kill some dubs because I've been so hungry for some.

Well, that's hard to go that far down the process because me and Jep are going. I got a little spot. I had to get permission. Yeah. And I've already, I've already got the permission. Of course, the landowner said, there ain't no dubs down there. And I said, well, I appreciate that. But I want to try because Jep and I.

now this guy lets us detect his fields. But while Jep and I last weekend went detecting, there were a lot of doves in this field. So I was like, I'm going to call him and ask him. He's like, they're not there. And I'm like, okay, you have faith that they're not there. I saw they're there. And so he's like, well, send me a picture.

if you shoot something but he just doesn't believe i was sitting on my porch in our neighborhood and i i could have killed a limit of dubs the last few i mean they're they're flying right across my house i don't know where they're going to and from but i thought man if i just got out of my shot it's legal to discharge a weapon i don't think it is well although we're outside the city limits but i don't know i wouldn't do it to that yeah i mean i know it's always easier to get forgiveness than permission, but probably not when it comes to that. Well, you know, a dove shooting is pretty sporty, too. You could, you know, you do quite a bit of popping.

I don't know. That may bring some issues, especially in our neighborhood. We've had issues in the past. Yeah. Well, I guess everyone is wanting to know because we finished Hebrews. Correct. We did. We had a guest in between the completion of Hebrews.

And so now where do we go from here? And I think the crowd. I don't think we've announced it. The crowd has spoken. I don't think we have. So inquiring minds want to know where do you go? Where do you go? I say we go to the Book of Mark.

I just opened my Bible and it fell open to right here. I agree with this assessment. You know what really moved me about going through Hebrews was to focus on Jesus. I mean, I know he had a specific audience he was addressing in that. But, you know, if you're going to focus on Jesus, you're going to focus on Jesus. And there's four books in the middle of this.

Yeah. That are focused on Jesus. That is where we fix our eyes. It's where we fix our thoughts. And even in Hebrews, that's where we go to him outside the camp. That's our purpose. And Jay's now we're talking about it. When we're doing a book study, because we've done several now, for those

you that have been with us the whole time, which all I can say is God bless you guys, because you have committed a lot of time now. We're up to this is episode 550 today that we're doing. And that's a lot of hours, but I know a lot of you because I hear from you all the time. have committed that time. So I'm hoping it's helping you grow. I hope it's helping your faith. And also just as Jay said, to see Jesus. But we don't like to get into a study for too long before back to one of the Gospels because his story is the best story, right? Did you have something we're going to read, Dad? It's about the sacrifice. Mark's fixing it to tell us about it.

The opening line in Mark is the beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God. when we were in Hebrews, because Hebrews 10, 14, because by one sacrifice, which Mark's going to go into, his death on a cross, he Jesus has made perfect or ever those who are being made holy. To me, that's the verse that comes out of the book of Hebrews. One sacrifice, Jesus is death on a cross. That made us when we were made us,

we come to him by faith, 100% perfect forever. Correct. So you can just, you say, boy, all my past sins removed and none of my future ones are counted against me, I will follow Jesus the rest of my days, and I'll go to the other side, and I'll live forever. Right. Perfect forever. And dad, you and I talk to it.

So when you say, you hear it say, well, nobody's perfect. You say, the ones who follow Jesus. by faith, they're perfect. They're perfect. You and I talked about yesterday after the podcast when we're eating lunch that Hebrews is such a great study because it shows Jesus all the way back in his superiority. It already happened in Hebrews. Right.

The death, barrel, right. Mark's going to tell you from the opening line, the beginning of the gospel. So let's take a break. So where I wanted to start, it's always good to know, to do a little bit of a dive into the authors, the ones who write the books. But especially in this case, they're writing about Jesus. So we did a study in John, one of the 12, you know, one of the apostles. We did a study in Matthew, also one of the 12. That's two of them. So Mark is the first one of the other two that was not a direct disciple, not one of the 12. And so I wanted to, there's quite a bit about

Mark, though. And I kind of wanted us to do a little bit of a study to begin. about him and kind of where he comes from and where he fits into this into this group of people. So in Acts chapter 12 is where we first see him. And then the story in Acts chapter 12, remember Peter has been arrested and he's put in jail and they're wanting to kill him is the plan. And so the people have gathered to pray for him that, you know, that obviously he'll be spared and nothing bad is going to happen to it. And so they had all gathered up at Mary's house. And in verse 12, it says, when this had dawned on him, he went to, so Peter has a miraculous escape.

Angels come in. The guards that said look like they were just in a trance. And he just walks right out. The chains fall off. So I'll back up to verse 11. Peter was kind of in a trance too. And it said, he came to himself and said, now I know without a doubt that the Lord sent his angel and rescued me from Herod's clutches. and from everything the Jewish people were anticipating.

So they were going to kill it. But God was like, no, I still got a lot for you to do. So Peter said, when this had dawned on him, he went to the house of Mary, the mother of John also called Mark. So this is our guy, John Mark, where many people had gathered and were praying, which on the last podcast we talked about the power of prayer. It said it's pretty powerful here. Peter knocked at the outer entrance and a servant girl named Rhoda came to answer the door.

came to answer the door. When she recognized Peter's voice, she was so overjoyed, she ran back without opening and said Peter's at the door. So she was excited and fired up. The problem was she left him standing outside. You're out of your mind, they told her.

When she kept insisting that it was so, they said it must be his angel. That's interesting. But Peter kept on knocking, and when they opened the door and saw him, they were astonished. Peter motioned with his hand for them to be quiet and described how the Lord had brought him out,

tell James and the other brothers about this. So it was a great happening, but I thought it was kind of amusing that they were praying for delivery. And when he was delivered, they said, girl, you're out of your mind. That didn't happen. So you look down to verse 25, the Word of God continued to spread. When Barnabas and Saul had finished their mission, they returned from Jerusalem, taking with them John also called Mark.

So that first time you see him, he's at this house. they're praying for Peter to be, you know, delivered. He was. And then he takes off with Paul and Barnabas. Now, we found out later in chapter 13 that he's actually Barnabas's cousin. Oh, we actually see that in Colossus 4 in verse 10. But it's really interesting about John Mark because he was obviously young at this time. I mean, you know, he's too young to be a disciple.

But he was still a part of the team. And there's a story in Acts chapter 15. I want to read that one too. when this what happens on this mission trip and it really it really says a lot about human beings uh look at 36 acts 15 sometime later paul said to barnabas let us go back and visit the brothers in all the towns where we preach the word of god and see how they're doing barnabas wanted to take john also called mark so here's their guy again he wanted to take him with him but paul did not think it wise to take him because he had deserted them in pamphelia and had not continued

with them in the work. So the thing about this, he's young, probably a teenager, you know, he gets rambunctious, he's part of the team, but as teens tend to do, he bailed on him. He left. And Paul didn't like that at all. Well, Paul and Barnabas, now this is the team. They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. But that's what happens when you mess with family, right? I mean, this is his cousin. It's like, no, we're taking it. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, but Paul chose Silas. and left, commended by the brothers to the grace of the Lord. And then he goes on about strengthen his churches. So I thought it was interesting that here are the founders and leaders

of the church. And a few mistakes were made. It was. I mean, to me, it's a very human moment to show. Because, you know, we always talk about churches fighting and church leaderships and how they are. But they've been doing that from the beginning. I mean, here's Paul and Barnas. You'd think if anybody would be able to, you know, not have any disputes, it'd be those two. But That's not human. I mean, human beings have problems. Well, if you have fishermen, I mean, you got to remember Jesus, the first thing he does is pick, you know, the guy who prepares the way looks a little rough around the edges. Straight out of the wilderness.

You've got your brain trust is a bunch of fishermen. But where there's fishermen, they specialize in fish that have a lot of bones. and so I've made this illustration many time when you're... They weren't highly educated men. When you're part of a church, especially when flawed men are leaders, even though they may be better than a lot of other people, if you try to compare, which is the wrong thing to do. But it's like eating fish.

You know, you've got to go around the bones. I mean, we all have bony pieces to our makeup. And even in our theology sometimes. Right. But, you know, when you have Jesus as the focus, you know, going back to the book we're transitioning out of it, grace and Jesus has two fundamental pillars of our relationships and our organizations. I mean, that was crystal clear in that whole book. And to your point, Jays, from 2 Timothy 411 and Philemon 24, they, John Mark rejoined the team. So, you know, at some point, you don't read about it happening, but they got past it.

And he becomes part of it. And Paul says, you know, greet Mark, my beloved, you know, helper. So, you know, they got, they extended grace to. Part of following Jesus, people got to realize this. And, you know, the fundamental basis for even in our marriages is, is we're compared to that in that we're the bride of Christ. And, you know, when you look at comparing that to your marriage, how you deal with problems, and mistakes, that is the more important parts of a relationship. And they were still all together knowing that, according to the Apostle Paul, they were ambassadors. They knew that.

Ambassadors for Jesus, God making his appeal through them. And there's all kinds of. Yeah, look, they had knocked down, drag out arguments. Oh, yeah. Look, just look, we've had knocked down, drag out arguments in our family. We did them every day for years. I mean, my wife, when we were dating, every time I brought her down here, she was like, they just don't seem like they love each other, Jay's.

And I said, no, they're discussing an issue. Everybody's making a point. She's like, no, but I'm telling your grandparents, I know they've been married a long time, but I would say that divorce is imminent. And we all knew that that would never have. Oh, I was like, babe, we were playing a domino game. They're not. She was like, they were calling each other names.

I was like, that's part of the game. At that moment, when you're in the competition, you're not married. You don't love each other. And you're making a point about when you cut my stuff or you're trying to domino from the last person to down it, You are right now functioning as an idiot. You're no longer my wife. No longer part of the family. And you have a responsibility to call that out.

I mean, it's a duty if we're going to play this game for future. I mean, I know it was hard for her to wrap her head around it, that we take timeouts and do these types of things. But it does show that we are flaw. We make mistakes. And, you know,

in the domino game, it seems okay to point out those mistakes. From dominoes to destiny. there's what that is full you got a lot of going on but there's also people that have way too much anxiety and have no way to uh you know release that i mean i made a little small point about cutting firewood as a way not to get angry and i've had more people you know that because i bump into people who listen to this these podcasts and they're like cut cut me some firewood for the first time Jason, why I didn't realize that I even said that on the podcast.

And I thought, well, that's a weird thing to say as a greeting. And I said, okay, great. And they're like, stress reliever. And I thought, oh, okay. I was like, well, welcome aboard. But the reason why, let's take another break. The reason why I brought that up is because a lot of times people, you know, someone will have an argument, disagreement, or whatever,

especially when it's church related. And they're just like, well, I just can't get past this. and, you know, I'm going to another church or I'm doing this, I'm doing that. You're just like, wait a minute. I mean, grace extends to every situation, whether it's in the family or whatever. And I've always said, Jace, that I thought, because I've done a lot of counsel with married couples. And, man, I've seen some, I mean, you talk about some knock down dragouts. But I always tell couples, if you're really passionate, especially about each other, there is going to be some clashing.

I mean, passionate people, that's what they do. And that's what description of us. We were passionate about dominoes or the Bible or whatever, where you're going to have more clashes the more passionate you're. If you're just sitting around like a doorknob, you're not going to be intact anybody. What stands out to me is that you have Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. We've covered Matthew and John what they said.

Now we're looking at Mark. What is amazing is four individuals watching and hearing what Jesus said and what he did. and all four of them are telling the same story. And someone says, well, why be that redundant just to get the message out? Why wouldn't just one write it? Because if four looked at the same events and the same person and wrote down what they saw and heard,

what they're saying is that we're doing this, God's saying, so you can't miss it. Right, exactly. So I want to add. I mean, it's the same story from four different events. vantage points, but it all G-hawls. So I want to make a point to that, Dad, that, because you say, well, how does, if Mark was young and he wasn't part of the 12, how would he know all this stuff?

So in 1-Peter 513, Peter closes out this book and says, he sends greetings, and so does my son Mark. And so you get the idea there that Mark, obviously, and he was also at the house member when Peter came. So Mark had been a part of Peter's life as well. And obviously, it looks like to me was sort of his scribe. I mean, I sort of see the book of Mark as being Peter's witness of what happened because Mark is the one rowed down. It could be because Peter was a fisherman and needed to, you know, somebody else to do it. I don't know why. It doesn't say. But that's, it's Peter's view of what happened. And the reason I think that's true is because Mark was the first of the four

Gospels written. And so a lot of what you read in Matthew and Luke, they actually are just taking section of that. That's just, that's just historically what most scholars have said. So when do they say this was written? What, what are the? Like most, it was probably somewhere after 50 before 60, or before 65. Most of the books were written in that same period of time because you got to remember, they're all doing the church stuff first. I mean, they're out planting churches. All this stuff is happening that we're reading about. And then as they start getting toward the end of their lives, which They don't know when it's going to come, but they've all, they have all been told by Jesus. It's coming.

Yeah. So then all of a sudden, it's like, we've got to get this written down. So most of the books that are written are written in that period of time. But most scholars say that Mark was probably the first thing written in terms of written. I think most of the things I read, most of them said like 60 to 65, but I mean, I'm fine. He didn't deal with anything as far as the birth of Jesus. and like Matthew and Luke and John on the front end, not so much on the birth.

He gets right into it. Well, he seems to. Which is interesting, yeah. I think one of the, I read somewhere that one of the most common phrases he uses is immediately or straightway. So it's like he cut to the chase a little bit, which I like. Cut to the chase, chase. But I do think it's interesting.

You know, I read that too, Phil, when I read the first verse where it said the beginning, ending of the gospel about Jesus, which is kind of a strange phrase. But, you know, and I looked at that word gospel, which is evangelion. Yeah. You know, because I've made the point before. Evangelism is not in the Bible. When people, yeah. I mean, then that's where they get it from, which is basically to proclaim the good news.

But even that phrase I like, it's not just proclaiming good news. I mean, because I like that. It gives me the visual image of evangelian. And it's like a lion proclaiming. Because they, you know, that word gospel was used several times in a non-religious way when like you would send a messenger. There was some battle somewhere. And they would send a messenger because back then they didn't have cell phones and all like we were talking about. So you would send a messenger to go declare we won.

So it was like this declaration of the best news you could imagine. we've won the war. And so I do like that he says it in that essence because it is Jesus. You know, Jesus is the message. I mean, most people think, well, you know, because of 1st Corinthians 15, when we get down to, you know,

his death on a cross and his resurrection and, you know, when you refer to it as the gospel, but it was... Which all four of made sure that was there. Yeah. But he starts off saying, this and when Jesus says the time has come, my point is, is this, Jesus could have just come down and died.

Well, why didn't he do that? Why didn't he just parachute in, go to the cross, being innocent? You know, even as a human, he could have done that. I mean, so why did he go through the whole process of entering the womb, living the life? And I think you get an insight into that when they have this conversation in the first chapter when John the Baptist, which Mark doesn't go into detail about. But this whole conversation of John saying, well, wait a minute, you want me to baptize you. Oh, you know, you should be baptizing me. I mean, you're because John, obviously, as his cousin, you know, he figured out he was preparing the way he knew who this is.

That's right. This is the son of God. in the womb as we described. Well, he knew that, and evidently you'll read in the first chapter that every demon that Jesus approached, they knew who he was too, which is kind of crazy to think about. You got to remember, we can. Let me just finish my one thought, though. So then I think in that moment when Jesus said, I came here, this needs to be done.

I need to be baptized to fulfill all righteousness. And it kind of hit me in my study before we get into Mark. that Jesus didn't just come here to die. He came here to live. Yeah, that's good point. He came here to show us what's right, because really the ultimate power display is if you could replicate yourself.

I mean, Jesus was the greatest person that's ever been here on Earth. Will we all agree? Yep, yep. But then he also figured out a way to replicate himself. Well, so through his spirit, eventually we're going to get to the point out of the spirit. We get God's spirit, and then what do we become on earth?

we become Jesus on earth. Well, if he hadn't to live the life and we didn't have these four books, Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John, well, we wouldn't know exactly how to live. So I think there is the key to understand and truly the gospel is that the gospel that he's proclaiming is important because of who he is. That's the point that's going to think. And the part is he had to slick him Satan and his first. forces. He had to put the slickum to them because a lot of times you will read it. You know, he said,

Arch Corinthians 2.7 says they didn't know who he was because they knew they wouldn't crucify him. We speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or the rulers of this age that's coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God has destined for our glory before time began. none of the rulers of this age understood it if they had had if they said well good night he's going to save the world they would not have crucified the lord of glory that's right however it's written no eye has seen no we is heard no mind is conceived what god is prepared for those who love him and mark is laying the

groundwork for that yeah but that's why it's the beginning of the good news the gospel right but it's pretty amazing what jesus went through to get that done. Exactly. Let's take a break. Well, I do think it's important when Jesus said, what did he say that the time has come? Yeah, his first words that Mark reports in 14 and 15. He's like, because we always go to the kingdom of God is near at hand, repent and believe the good news.

But I believe that, you know, when we read that, when we were in Hebrews, when it says in Hebrews 2, that this salvation, which was first announced by the Lord. Yep. Remember when that phrase came up in Hebrews too? Well, now that we're going back to Mark I'm like, well, looks like to me, this is where he announced it. That's right. The beginning of the gospel, but I liked that phrase which I hadn't noticed before when

he said, the time has come. Yep. Well, what time? Yeah. The time for what? Right. Well, salvation. The kingdom, the Holy Spirit being poured out.

all these important things that's at hand here. This is the beginning of the end. Well, right. Or the beginning. And the end of the beginning. Yeah, that's it. I mean, because you're eventually going to get back kind of to the same point we were having in Hebrews 13 where he said Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

But I just wanted to note that because, you know, Jesus, what separates him from any other person or any other religion, leader or any kind of historical figure is that it wasn't that he was necessarily speaking truth. He was saying, you know, later on, we'll see, I am the truth. He wasn't necessarily just, you know, saying, I am, you know, that your representative. I mean, he's like, I am you, I, but I'm also God. I'm part of this plan to rescue you. And it's very good. news for humanity. Yeah, that's exactly. This is the beginning of it.

I mean, it was quite the announcement. And Mark jumps right into the demons and all that. It's the first one you'll read about, you know. Some man in their synagogue would possess, that's verse 23, chapter one. He would possess was by an evil spirit. He cried out, what are you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are.

the holy one of God. And Jesus said to him, be quiet, come out of him. I mean, so the battle started quickly as far as Mark's concerned. It gives me great comfort that I know that all the demons know who Jesus is. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, I've run up on some situations before and I'm sure other people have where you're like, man, if this is not demonic, I don't know what it is. But the fact that they all know who Jesus is and when he told them to show, shut up, they shut up. When he told them to get out, they got out.

Yep. So I'm like, I'm glad the one who has that kind of power, I'm on his team. But I noticed another thing, too, that I hadn't noticed just in Mark I, which is, you know, we're just introducing the book here, so we'll go through it in detail. But another thing I'd never noticed is how much in the first chapter that everyone was congregating, like almost uncomfortably, claustrophobically. wherever he was. Yeah.

Now, I know he was cast out demons and he was healing diseases and they were moving for one place to another. So it made me think, you know, so I studied this and my buddy called me this morning. I forgot even what the nature of the call was. I mean, we were talking about duck holes or something. But when he had to go, he said, he's had to go. There is just a lot of people crowded around my office. And I said, well, before you go, remember.

that in Mark chapter one, there was a lot of people crowded around Jesus at all times. And he said, well, what's your point? I said, they want you to do something for them. He said, you know, you're right. I never thought about that. I said, yeah, the power that you have, because he's a CEO, and these are all his workers. I said, they all have something that you can help them with. And I said, welcome to the life in Jesus.

I said, now what you do with that power is up to you. And he's like, we need to talk about this later. But it was funny. And then he withdrew to a quiet office. Well, because I had this fresh on my mind when he said that. I never thought about that. But I was like, well, why were all these people crowded around Jesus? Because they had figured out something.

Oh, he can help me. Now, this is the same town, Copernum, that later on, he's going to compare to Sodom and Gamara. Yeah. So evidently, some of their wills and want was not necessarily sincere. They just wanted the, they wanted as consumers for them, for Jesus to help them. But that didn't necessarily mean they were going to change their life character or the way they went about life, which will be a subject that we'll get into. No, that's good. One of the things I noticed, and there's that same verse that Dad read, and you're going to see this a lot throughout the book.

It kind of surprised me. I never really realized before. And this was what makes me think Peter had such a heavy influence on the book. He loosely says, be quiet, said Jesus sternly. There's a lot of descriptive words about emotions in this book that you don't see in the other the gospels, which I think, my opinion is, is because Peter was so emotional. I mean, he's all over the place, right? I mean, one minute he's all in, the next minute I'm out.

And so there's a lot of descriptions. You'll see astonished sternly. it's a lot of description of the emotional things that are happening around Jesus. And you don't necessarily see that description in the other books. And so there's always those little nuances that are picked up. And I think it's because Peter being an emotional man expressed what he saw to Mark, who wrote it down in an emotional way. Well, I figured it was because he was young.

And it could be that too. Sometimes a little detrimental for him too. But you know, when you're younger, you're more emotional and you do cut to the chase, but then you're, you tend to give very emotional, descriptive ways. I mean, I think about my two sons who are young guys. They tell me a story. It's like it's filled with adjectives that. Yeah, but your oldest son has always been like that.

He was a little bitty kid. He would come up and start telling me a tale and I was like, what? I mean, he would just tell the biggest, and it may have never. He's passionate. He's very passionate. He's passionate. It's like when, you know, one of my sons. Wait, okay, just before we do that, let's take a break.

When he tells me, okay, because I had the same conversation about LSU, you know, losing in just such an emotional way. Well, one son, who's more studious and philosophical, he's like giving you the points A through E on where it went wrong. Right. And my other son, who's way emotional, he's like, I mean, this is terrible. Fire everybody. Start over. After one game, so I've responded like, it's early as a new regime. He's like, oh, yeah, I know, but I had to get that all my jet.

It's like, I had to have the anxiety release. But don't you think that most time, a lot of churches, especially are church leaderships, try to take emotion out of the equation. When we get into the Bible, it's just all head stuff and information. I said that many times. You've got to have some passion in that. I know religious leaders, and, you know, I think. they're sincere and God love them, you know, extra grace required, whatever. But they try to take

the emotion out of worship, the worship experience. And I'm like, what about that passage that says love the Lord of God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength? It's pretty passionate. We're made in the image of God. I'm sure their emotions are in there somewhere. I know if you only use emotions to try to find God, now that's not a good way to go. Correct. However, God made us emotional beings. We read in Hebrews 5, Jesus himself with loud cries and tears, you know, proclaimed. And it says he was heard because of his reverent submission. We just have a wrong idea on what that reverent submission is. But just think about it. To your point, it's like a marriage. I mean, you and your spouse, you're complete because of physical,

but it's not just physical. I mean, that's one part of who you are as a husband and wife, your physical relationship. What about the emotional, connection? What about an intellectual connection where you talk to? What about a spiritual connection? I mean, all those things matter. You can't just toss out two of them. I mean, have the freedom enjoyment of having a place where people can come that covers all emotional spectrums of human beings. I mean, that's what I always says. I was like, be diverse, but, you know, if someone is upset and they're moved and you want to create a place where it's okay.

Yeah. This is a good emotion. Yeah. You know, you shedding tears, I've had times when I've shed tears in my life and it was usually over some spiritual reason. And I needed that to say, okay, let's start over here. Let's go. I mean, there is a brokenness that does need to happen, which we realize the need for

God. And look, Jesus and what he did, it is emotional at some point in your life. And you don't want to lose that. So I was in my sermon this past Sunday, I was. was setting the stage because Anne and Trey, who are our marriage leaders at our church, they were given some of their story and what they're doing. That was very powerful. And so I was setting that up.

And I was just talking a little bit about Lisa and I and, you know, everything that's happened to us and this church and how they've been there. So I just had a list of names there. I mean, when I put it together, I just was, you know, putting a lesson together. But when I was in front, up front, I started reading those names. These are people that had walked alongside Lisa and I through different things. difficulty in our marriage. So I started reading that list. Well, I mean, you thought the lump came up in the throne. And I was like, I'm not able to get through this list. Yeah. And so, of course, Randy was one of

him. He's here today. But when I started doing it, I mean, I just, that emotion just gripped me because all of a sudden, I just transported back 28 years in time. Yeah. Thought about the people that were there. Because my point was going to be Lisa and I had walked alongside Anna and Trey in their early moments. And so here they are, you know, leading our marriage ministry. And their marriage was to bad as any I've ever seen. There's no way it could survive. Well, most of the songs we sing, you know, I'll get emotional every once while singing a song.

It's just, I didn't know that song meant that much to you. And I was like, babe, it wasn't the song. It was, I'm sure it had a little something to do with it. I said, but while I was singing, I was imagining the people who have been members of our family, who have died and warriors in the faith, that I was thinking about, boy, in heaven, getting together with everyone, dead and alive now, singing this song in this moment. I was like, I didn't plan on getting emotional.

It just made me, you know, it made me emotional because I thought this is what I was thinking about while I was singing. Well, I think that's good. It is good. That's healthy. And look, the setting can dictate that a lot. I remember, you remember Jay's the, I don't know how many years ago it's been now,

but it was 98, so. But when our grandpa was in the hospital dying, and he's a tough old bird, so it took him a while to die. I mean, he had been like in the mode of, like you're fixing to die for like a week. And we'd all been over to see him and say goodbyes, even though he wasn't aware of anything. And so that same week,

a young guy that worked for our church, Charlie Murray, passed away at camp. At 32 years old, he was the director that week at camp. Just shocking, you know, that he died just so sudden, died in his sleep. And so we were having a memorial service sort of that. It happened to be a Wednesday night. So we were just talking about Charlie.

And it was very emotional. And people came in. from camp. And that's when we got the word that our grandpa finally went on and made the transition. But I remember we were all, I think it was because of the setting, we were all so much because of what happened with Charlie. We were expecting Paul to die. But when the word came, we just all fell apart. And it was just because all of that emotion was there. And it was just like it had to be released. And that's okay. We needed it. Yeah. So I think that balance, that's why I brought up that loving the Lord of God with all your heart.

mind, soul, and strange. Look, I'm as, you know, I try to go through every sentence in the Bible and correctly figure it out and where you can apply it, where you can, you can teach it in which, you know, to even clarify the first verse, the reason I make so big a deal about that word evangelism, it's not that I'm, you know, it's kind of a private joke and y'all know why I do it, because it upsets me sometimes when churches comes up, when they view, the proclamation of Jesus, it's just like a program or something a few people do. And that, that upsets me. I'm like, oh, no, we're all, the whole church is gathered together. This is what we do.

Now, we may do it in different ways and there's different pieces of the puzzle that, but that is a universal daily occurrence, not just once a week. It's not a program tucked away. We try to figure out how we can share the head of our body, the person we're married to, the one God chose for us to, you know, show people as his image and to rescue. And so that was why I was saying that. So I like Evangelion way better. We're all evangelians. All right. Great.

It's not a program that we're going to do once a year, you know, for three days. I mean, this isn't a daily occurrence. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, we're going to talk about that on One Kingdom Sunday. We've got a cool comparison that Ryan Lee came up with about from Revelation. One is Revelation 5 where we talk about Jesus as the Lion of Judah, you know, in the triumph in that verse as a lion. Of course, we love that. But then you go to Revelation 12, and we also triumph because the blood of the Lamb.

So we have a lion and a lamb in our Lord. I mean, you think, I mean, the ultimate, because you're willing to sacrifice your life. But then you're also willing to rule because of what Christ is. It's pretty powerful imagery, you know. Yeah, and you see that even when John the Baptist, which is he immediately is going to go into John the Baptist, which came from our world, which is the wilderness. But there's going to be a lot of significance about wilderness when you look at it. I mean, there's been a lot of godly moments that took place in the wilderness, and God chose that. I mean, for whatever reason to light fires under people.

What was your lesson that time from wilderness to water? From the water to the well. Oh, I got it ready. I will give it again. It was not my original idea. I got it from somewhere. It was so good, though. Yeah, we might have to do that when we get on a future podcast.

Because you could also add on that, Jays, from the water to the wilderness to the worship. You could add that third layer. I already added that. It's the end. Preachers love threes, then they love things to start with the same letter. That's the kind of stuff that excite. We all go through that. You know, I mean, Jesus was quite clear.

I mean, he promised we just read the whole book of Hebrews in graphic detail. The end result in most of their lives was persecution, difficulty, as followers of Jesus. And you got to remember, this was written in a period of time where Nero, the Roman Ember. goes literally crazy and his three choices, you know, for Christians were to either put them in the middle of the circus, where they were eating by lines, to hang them up on fences and light them on fire. Human torches. Yeah, human torches.

And I forgot the other way that are given the wild beasts is sport. Yep. And these are Christians. Yep. That's what. And I do feel like that that's important to remember that the message that, you know, he's proclaiming here, if you put your faith and trust in on that time, you very well likely will wind up in one of those three places.

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