Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 554 | Si Says His Doctor Has Created a Monster & Phil Can't Believe How Expensive These Shoes Are!

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Si gives an update on his most recent surgery and claims his doctor has made him a talkative monster! Phil recalls an old nickname he gave Si when he was just 6 years old, and Si compares his lungs to various parts of fish. Jase shares some interesting factoids about the most expensive shoes in the world, and Phil can't believe his ears. Zach discusses the bizarre ways the kingdom was unveiled to the world and the importance of understanding the triune God as three persons. And the temptation for modern Christians to view their church buildings as replicas of the destroyed temple. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're back to unashame. We have one of our favorite returning guest. Uncle Si is in the house. I see he's got his tea jug there. So everybody, everywhere I go in America, they always want to know about your tea. Your tea is like, I mean, everybody wants to know. What's in the tea jug? And I said, well, it's tea. That's the elixir of life. Okay, hey, Dr.

I said that when he was on his show. He did. He asked, he said, Si, who has the healthest liver? And nobody guessed you. And he said, Uncle Sai has the healthest liver. Yeah, Jessica took him when she jumped up and she said, I am because I'm the youngest.

And he's the wrong answer. That old man is. And she said, what? That old man, he ain't. There ain't no way he's got better kidneys than I have. He said, yes, he does because he drinks all that tea. That's right. It's full of antioxidants, I think is what he called.

That's exactly what he said. And just so everybody knows, so, so everybody thinks you're drinking sweet tea, but you don't drink sweet tea, right? No, I had to correct them all the time. I said, hey, look, I'm crazy enough as I am. If I drank sweet tea and drank two gallons of it a day, can you imagine what you might see? It'd be pretty roughed up.

Yeah, it would, hey, that'd be, you know, I don't know. We don't want to know. We might not even show that. We haven't had you on the podcast in a while, but you recently had a procedure done to expand your lung capacity because you have COPD, which is kind of a degenerative lung disease. So tell folks about what. Stupidity on my part. Yeah, too much smoking. Smoking cigarettes.

Yeah, smoking cigarettes for 30 years is stupid. Okay. That's what's caused all this. You know, shoot pity on my part. But you're here, and so we want you to be around a little longer. So what did they do to you? And you look good, apparently, because you just had this done a few days ago, right? Yep.

I had Wednesday, the seventh. Right. What Dr. Connolly did was is he inserted a tube down my throat. Then he goes in and looks at my lungs. We had about a month prep. I had to take all kinds of x-ray. and go to the heart doctor and get an okay far from her. She actually put the scope up and checked my heart out and everything's good.

So I finally got all of that done, and then we'll go over there the seventh. Surgery took, you know, an eighth surgery, it's an implant. It took about an hour. They go in and he puts a balloon in my lung, blows it up. It shuts off the oxygen support. ply. That's the only reason they could put them vows in there. If it had not done that, couldn't have done the procedure.

But anyway, he blows the balloon up. It shuts the oxygen off. He deflates it and then puts six Sufferic vowels. Okay. When they're working, you see them working. He showed me a picture. It looks like a brim opening a clothes in his mouth. I'm sorry

A brown as in the fish Oh yeah That's giving me air Because what it's doing It's letting before Okay When I would inhale You know

My lungs would expand Everything'd be cool But then I couldn't exhale So I've got all this bad air trapped in my lungs Oh yeah So all he did He put six in there

And he said You'll have an even flow down For the bad air to go out Hmm we need to rename it, Zah. Name it the Chinky Pan procedure, which is a... No, no, no. Dr. Connick got to it because I said, hey, my nickname from when I was young,

young was perchmouth. You know, I don't feel coffee. So he said, you know, when he was talking to me, the rest of the whole time I was over. I've forgotten that, sir, perchmouth. No, no, he said, well, perched mouth, you ought to feel better, you know. But I, no, I hate to say this for the doctors and nurses and everybody involved

at Houston Medical Methodist Hospital. Very, very excellent care. But the resurrection is looming larger. Oh, yeah. Well, no, no, I just tell everybody now, yeah. Death ain't nothing but just change

of ashtress, boys. But I will tell you this. This made me look at what God, you got to understand something. You're looking it dirt for crying out loud. That's what I was made out of. Yeah.

You're talking about amazing, okay? You're talking about some soil boys right here. Yeah. Okay, look, 100,000 miles of blood vessels and arteries in this old man's

bodies, you know, that'll go around the earth. It's about twice. You got a... You lost me on that one, but I'll take your word for it. No, no. Hey, check it out.

You can Google it. Google it. You'll find out, it's, hey, it's true. Oh, man. So, Sa, what, okay. Well, right, Sa. Si, if you could describe, there's a lot of different kinds of soil on planet Earth. So are you, what are you sand, clay, are you mud, are you gumbo mud?

Well, how would you describe? Oh, no, no, no. Hey, I'm the, I'm the richest soil there is. Oh, okay. Okay, because, hey, I'm serious. Look at our vets. You know, you got people that don't have their arms, don't have their legs, their bottom half, their body's been blown away in war.

Yep. And then they're still functional. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Yeah. Oh, it's mind-boggling. I like that. Rich fertile soil, size the, size the, and that's how we grow fruit, right? Because the Bible talks about fruit grower.

That's, you're a fruit grower. That's why the fruit of the spirit, okay, this is for all the folks out there, hey, look, if you've got issues and you do, you know, here's what you do, you start isolating them one at a time. Oh, you don't, you lack self-control. Well, guess what? Hey, start working on it. Get some of the fruits of the spirit self-control.

You got an anger management problem? Hey, take that and throw it out in the garbage for it long. Then get you some of joy, peace, love, kindness, all the other good stuff that the Spirit got. You know, God has told you, hey, he's not only just told you. He's promised you. Jesus came to this earth for one reason to bring us life and not just life, but the best. Okay, the father, son, the Holy Spirit, all they want for the human race is the best there is. That's right.

Boys, hey, you can't find nothing to beat that, I'm telling you. You went into surgery, you couldn't talk or breathe, you came out preaching. Oh, no, that's what Dr. Connie said, because, grief, you was kind of, you know, when having problems speaking, he said, I may have created a monster. And I said, well, if you gave me good airways, yeah, you have. All you needed was six chinky pins in one lung and six bluegills in the other. And look it. That's it.

Hey. Do you still have the balloon in your lung or is that just used to blow it up? No, no. Yeah, they actually put it inside my lung and fill it, fill a balloon up. Did you levitate off the bed when they put the balloon in you? Well, hey, I don't know. I'm out. Okay.

I'm asleep. Well, you don't weigh 60 pounds. I just figure if they put. How long did it feel like when you close your balloon? your eyes, how long was it when you open them? No time passed. That's the way the resurrection is. Hold on. Yeah.

You close your eyes, no time passes for you, you open them. It's that long. And again, I woke up with no pain, resurrection is going to be the same way. All the pain and sorrow and tears and all the bad stuff.

No. You've gone through a many resurrection on this one, Angel. Did you see a white light and a tunnel. Hey, I see a white light all the time. Oh, okay. So bright, hey, so bright, it'll blind you if you look at it long. Okay, that's who I'm following. Okay, it's a bright light. I like it. So decide to prove that your point was true about being a bag of dirt, that's exactly the way Jesus described humanity in Matthew 13 when the parable of the sewer. He said we're all different kinds of soil.

Different kinds of soil. Exactly. That's correct. Some of us are open to his message. Some are closed. Some accept it for a while. But the ones that are blessed are the ones that take in the message and then multiply and grow and bear fruit. To your point.

And actually not only take it in, but then apply it to their every minute of their life. Right. I like that Well, I prayed, that you'd have a few more years on the earth the Almighty and looked like you've got another duck season coming up.

Look here. Si, you... Nope, we're back on the deal. Here's what you've been missing. They struck this morning, baby. I looked around for you this morning and I didn't see you because you can't breathe in problems.

That's one of God's little creatures there that is amazing. He's a jet aircraft. in the air he comes, lands on the water, he's a boat. Okay, if he gets hungry, he wants to go a little deep, you know, like two foot to him, get something to eat, get some of the grain off the bottom of the deal. Then it comes to submarine. So you know what, Dad is like, Jay?

Oh, I'm sorry. Dad, that is like King David, you know, after he cut off Goliath's head, you know, everybody knows the battle, right? but if you read on David carried around the head of Goliath for like a month after what happened he went he carried that head so dad

looks like that was starting to smell well you know it was I made a month out in the desert but dad's doing the same thing with that that group of teal that's we've translated them over to the next podcast that's pretty good yeah that's when you know times have been a little bit

desperate I suppose so David was just trying to tell everybody you know, Texas that's got a sign and said don't mess with Texas. That's all David was saying. That's right. Don't mess with me, boys. Exactly.

He carried that in. So, Saad, tell us a little bit about how are things on the, how are things going on our brother podcast, the duck car room. You guys having fun over there doing that? Yeah.

And the best one was when my wife decided to come on. Oh, I watch that. Yeah. And cops will tell you. She backed you all the way, didn't she? Oh, no, no, no. No, though this was, this was, I would tell my side of the story, okay, and like the song says, hey, this is my side of the story, and I'm sticking to it.

Okay, but then she's so badgoing, because when they told me, we got married, okay, and when the preacher said, where's the ring? I said, oh, I had a cigar in my pocket, and I took it out and had a band on it, took it off, and I, that's what I was. I slipped on her finger. She said, oh, you did not. You bought me like a $16 cheap ring. And I said, folks, this is the first I've heard about this $16 cheap ring. I said, but by the way, I have upgraded that to a big diamond.

And I tell her all the time, don't wear that out in public. They'll cut your finger off to get that. The podcast is going good. we have a, you know, my motto is if I can't have fun, I ain't going to do it. Yep. So we have a lot of fun. Yeah, and the people love it. And a lot of people that I run into and I'm speaking around the country, they watch

ours and they watch yours as well. So they love both, which is great. And a lot of them watch Sadie. So we're blessed to be able to have kind of a, what would you call it, Zach, a platform of podcast that we're able to kind of get the message out there. It's a double dope option. There you go. And you might have could say it's a quadruple.

option because Sadie's got one Christian's got one a quadropo whatever you know they know what I was talking about negative quadruple

you can never you can never be the good quadruple I like it let's take a break so we're studying the book of Mark so Sal we're going to invite you just to jump in any time you got anything to add to our Bible study today

we in the last overtime we talked about we went back, Zach went back to Daniel 7 and Jason also closed out the podcast by looking in Revelation at this picture of Jesus. Because the one thing that Mark does, he seems to like immediately jump into the need to understand the authority of who Jesus is. That's why he starts him out right off the bat by being the son of God. And I wanted to read today to start a podcast because he starts with John the Baptist. We've mentioned it two or three times. but there's a big difference.

John talks about a change of heart, repentance, right? And the importance of once a person has repentance that they can receive forgiveness of sin. And remember, this is in an era where you just have law and sacrifice. This is a new concept of both baptism and repentance of sin. I mean, it's something new to them. But there's a big... By the way, Al. Go ahead.

By the way here, while you're there, you wonder, after looking at... the world's religions and the pains they take to outfit the priest and what not, the preachers, slicked up, why would God pick the man who's going to introduce the Savior of the world? Going to introduce him. Why would he come up there looking like he did? He was, he wore clothing made of camel's hair, leather belt around his weight, and he ate locusts and wild honey. Why picked that type of individual who evidently was surviving on grasshoppers and robbing beehives and his clothing is a little bit less than up to date with the current people? Why would God do that?

What kind of statement is that making? I'll jump in there because I think God over and over and over used wilderness experiences as a prelude to something awesome. When you think about what happened with the Israelites and 40 years of wandering and you think about John the Baptist, you even think about Jesus, you know, that we're going to read in Mark chapter one, he went from the water. the spirit descends on him. God said, this is my son, whom I love. I'm well pleased. And then the spirit immediately carried him to the wilderness. And I'm going to tell you, when he came out of that wilderness

after he defeated the evil one for the first time, I guess, I mean, did he ever change the world as we know it? Well, my opinion is that, and I agree with what Jay said, and I would also add that it's obvious that God wanted to go outside of the religious establishment. And I say that in quotes, that he wanted a voice that was unique and in its pointing. And all this had been prophesied about as we read in the text. And it says, let me read it.

It is written in Isaiah. I will send my messenger ahead of you who will prepare your way. A voice of one calling in the desert. This is from Malachi now. Prepare the way for the Lord. Make straight paths for him. And so John comes, baptizing in the desert, in the wilderness, as Jay said. So people think about this, people are having to go out to find him.

It's not coming to the temple. It's not coming to the synagogue. People are going out into the wilderness to get the message that John is preaching about the one who's to come. And it says the whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him confessing their sins. they were baptized by him in the Jordan River. And then dad described what he looked like. This was his message. And no dress code needed.

None. Well, no, no, that's what I was going to say, okay. It's very simple, okay. Clothing is only a garment, a covering. Okay. God wants us to be way more. Okay, the essence of man is not what he's wearing. Yeah.

The essence of man is what he, what he believes, what he puts his trust in, what he spends his money on. What's in his heart. You know, what's in his heart and his mind. Is that why you didn't wear clothes the first 10 or 12 years of your life? Well, it may have been, but I'm a free spirit. I remember even when they described it. I remember when Ma, when you were six years old,

and everybody that was going toward the school bus, you know, to pull up there out there. but you were naked I mean like you came out of your mother's my mama's lawns you were naked and you said nope no clothes for me and you had a scuffle there and she had to take out her belt and carry your butt up

and because I said you're going to wear clothes and you said I'm never wearing clothes you wanted to run naked sire So you had wisdom before I mean you you had that wisdom before it was time but can you imagine the kids on that school bus they see all them kids come running out

and they're like, hey, one of those kids, he doesn't have clothes on that. You didn't wear clothes. I remember it was up to six because I watched you grow up. You just didn't wear clothes. Well, I got used to it. Here's what I was, what I had in me,

is I was pure, I was innocent. Okay, so, hey, I was on a shame. Hey, I. Okay, I'm seriously, when you think about that. You know, it's just a gun hack Because that number brings me back I didn't even know how to put on the gown

In the hospital Oh boy I put it on the wrong way I'm not serious I've got it and the open is in front And I said hey Why even give me the gown I said I'm going to be showing my behind

Anyway But you couldn't tie the gown You couldn't find where the gown Yeah I put it on backwards. But I just told them, I said, hey, look, why not just leave me in my birthday suit? Forget the stupid gown. Yeah.

You were going back to your childhood, sir? Hey, hey, give me freedom, boys. Or give me death, period. Little Patrick Henry from Uncle Sy. So let me keep reading. This was John the Baptist message. after me will come one more powerful than I. So here we're back to authority again.

The thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. So he establishes here that I'm not the man. I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with Holy Spirit. And I think that's a huge thing, obviously, because we know what happens later. But what he's saying is, is that this baptism or repentance, it's important. obviously forgiveness of sin is important. It's a change of heart, but a change of nature is something new. I mean, we're talking about change in heart to change of nature.

The spirit of God can change your nature. It turns you into something spiritual like God and gives you that opportunity. And so I think he's really drawn the line early in the difference between the way things had always been and for the way things that are about to be. And we'd spend a lot of time talking about when we're talking about the kingdom. If you just saw him, his looks would tell you that he was not a religious guy according to the current culture. They knew he didn't come out of the temple. Well, I would propose that when people look at us, the last thing they would think is that we were religious people.

And look, we were in the wilderness spiritually and literally. you know, when y'all came to the Lord. And that's why I'm not surprised that John the Baptist was chosen because I look at our family. I mean, Phil, you can't be any more in the wilderness than you were 40 years ago. Yeah.

Literally unpleased. That's one of things about what I was saying about the cover of the book. Okay, you can't judge the book by the cover. Exactly. No, it's a great point. So Jesus had nothing to say, look at me I'm the

savior of the world you know he was there was nothing that would draw you to him yeah he was just a normal fella but I think that's that's the whole point of this book the God who's extraordinary takes the ordinary which is us

made of dirt and makes us extraordinary through his Holy Spirit that's why I post that's why I read that Revelation one last time which I skipped over the one line that said his feet were like bronze in a furnace because it's obviously going back to that prediction of the kingdom. You remember when he listed all those kingdoms that would come?

Well, they all had feet of clay because it shows you that no matter how many kingdoms or power that you view on Earth, what happens to them? They all crumble. And here's a man who visited Earth that's got, you know, the picture is his feet are like bronze. in a furnace. The difference in his kingdom and all the other kingdoms on earth is that he's an eternal king with people that he will transform into eternal beings. Yeah, I think that going back to what we talked about last week. Hang on that. Let's take a break. Going back to what we talked about in the last episode, kind of the paradox of the whole thing is that it's that Christ came,

he's not weak, but he came in weakness. And so the, The picture here, the wilderness, and even just the way that John the Baptist looked. It reminds me of that, I think it was the Temple of Doom, you know, when Indiana Jones was looking for the Last Supper and looking for the cup of the Lord. You guys remember that scene? That was the Holy Grail, but yeah, different movie. Yeah. Yeah.

And so he's trying to find the one. And so they're all picking the wrong cup because they're looking at the one that's the most, you know, grandiose or has the most jewels on it. And the real cop of the Lord was the one that was like the humble clay cop. And I think that's the thing that's hard for people to get their mind around going back to Matthew 16, the coming of the kingdom. And we love that part about, hey, we're going to storm the gates of hell. And the gates of Haiti would not prevail. We love all that part.

We don't like the next part. Take up your cross and follow me. But we shouldn't be surprised when we read that because even at the beginning of this thing, the way that this kingdom is being ushered in is in the weirdest way, like out of the wilderness with a guy that's eating locusts and wild honey that looks like Phil. You're not going to, like this is not how we would anticipate it coming. We would think of a big, you know, procession and bands and armies and all that. And that's not how God came.

They didn't come and the point came to the baby. Matthew, Matthew recorded this. Don't worry saying, what shall we eat? What shall we drink? What shall we wear? or the pagans run after all these things. Your Heavenly Father knows that you need them, but first seek his kingdom,

seek first his kingdom and his righteousness and all these things will be given to you. Don't worry about all that stuff. There's a lot of money in clothing and food. If you look at it, just step back. It's a multi-billion industry. And when it comes down to it, when it comes down to it, there ain't nothing there. That's it.

Yeah, that's the threat. That's the point about it. Yeah. When you get right down to the nitty gritty, close that ain't nothing there. Yeah. Was it, what was it James and said they just, the moths get them and they rot anyway? I mean, if you put everything into that, right, I mean, which is the whole idea. And I think Zach was right.

It's the idea of how it came that showed that it was different. Even look at the next verse. So we'll read this little section when he gets baptized in verse 9 of Mark 1. At that time, Jesus came from Nazareth and Galilee, which you can just stop right there. Right off the bat, that's outside of the religious establishment. Remember Jace when the Pharisees, they were saying, what good thing comes out of Nazareth? I mean, this is where this was where all the culls lived. This is where the scrubs lived in this region.

You're not going to have the Messiah, the son of God, living in this place. that was their thought process, but that's where he was. He was baptized by John in the Jordan. And we know from other accounts, it's like, well, why am I, why are you coming to me for baptism? I mean, you should be baptized to me. I mean, John the Baptist recognized Jesus even then. What kind of clothing did the Son of God, the one through whom, through what, everything was

made through him, creator of the cosmos. I just wonder what his attire looked like. I'm sure. Mark gives John the Baptist. I wonder what Jesus was wearing. I'm sure it was very humble. It wasn't anything fancy. It was the Holy Spirit.

That's my take on it. I'm serious. Yeah. Purity, you know. I agree. As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the spirit descending on him like a dove.

And a voice came from heaven. you are my son whom I love with you I am well pleased and then of course as soon as that happens the revealing of who he was that once the spirit sent him out into the desert the wilderness is jays calls it and he was in the desert 40 days being tempted by Satan he was with the wild animals and angels attended him and so we talked about a lot of the different reasons why obviously one of the reasons why he was baptized by john was to fulfill prophecy and righteousness The second was to identify him as the Messiah, the son of God. We know that from John's account.

But the third was really the most important one to me to introduce the Spirit of God for all of us. This is what opened the door now for humanity, for the Spirit of God to have the opportunity to live in us. And that was probably the biggest thing other than just revealing who he was, in my opinion. Well, yeah. And in this moment, you have a picture of the full, I say a full, like a better, view of God being Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You have all members of the Trinity are present and Jesus is baptism. You have the son that's present.

You have the father who says, this is my son whom I'm well pleased. And then you have the Holy Spirit descending on them like a dove. So you've got all three persons of the Trinity. And that's really important for us to understand. Because if we don't understand that God is triune, then we don't understand who God is. and we're not worshipping the God of the Bible. We have to start with who God is. So I think that's another big part of this moment.

You know, if Jesus and John the Baptist had walked in modern day, there's a lot of places they could go as structures where we go worship, church buildings, but if Jesus and John the Baptist just walked up in one one day, what would people think? Well, we kind of saw what they? think because when you read the Gospels, they didn't think too much of him. They were just like, who's this guy think he is? Who gives you the authority to say this? Why, who do you think you are to tell us what to do? I mean, it wasn't well received in the circles of both the synagogue and

the temple and the religious establishment of the day. So you're right. The answer to the question is right there in all the Gospels. It was like they thought they didn't know what they were talking about. Well, to size point, you know, when you read that verse, John the Baptist said that he wasn't worthy to tie his sandals. I just on a hunch. I looked up the top 20 most expensive shoes. And number 20 is a pair of Nike's at 26,000. Then there's some dress shoes at 30,000.

Well, there's a sandal, the Hermes Birkenstock that they average from $34,000 to $76,000. Wow. For shoes? For a pair of sandals. Man. And here's another dress shoes for 38. There's another Nike SoCal Air Force Supreme Max, 50,000. So you run all the way down.

There's some Air Jordans here for 60,000, silver shoes, literally have silver in them. But look, when you get down to the top three or four, I want to read these to you, because it shows you about how our culture views success and power. There's some Cinderella slippers that Stuart Weitzman came up with. $2 million, $2 million for a pair of shoes. You are kidding. No, here's another pair for $3 million. They're number five.

Harry Winston's ruby slippers. I didn't know why I was going to unlock that can of worms. Three million. So we get to the number one. The number one pair of shoes most expensive. They're called Moon Star Shoes by Antonio Vietra. $19.9 million a pair. Wow.

How many pairs are there? People actually have bought that, have bought them. They bought them, Phil. What are they called? They're called Moon. Moon shot. No, Moon Star. I now understand.

why, Jesus said, and the way John the Baptist dress, I get it now. Chase, that, that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you're welcome. If you get this thing called a computer and you do some searches, you can find all kind of interesting thing. Yeah. What would we be, Si, if we knew how to work a cell phone.

I don't need, I do, I do like to have it to say, hey, Google this. Hang on, let's take a break. So when you look at this story, Jase, it was kind of like we were talking about from the water to the wilderness because immediately this goes from this scene that that Zach was describing that shows the, you know, all three of the persons of God, it introduces the spirit for all mankind. And then immediately the spirit, it says, takes him into the wilderness. So which means that

there was a voice or whatever, however you want to say, just how we talk about the spirit guiding and leading us that said, you need to go out here. And so when he did, he was out there, he was out there for 40 days. It says, well, the wild animals, and when you read about Mark chapter, I mean,

Matthew's chapter four or Luke chapter four, you get what happens while he's out there. And he was literally approached by Satan. Kind of, I would say, it his weakest human time. I mean, he'd been fasting for 40 days.

He hadn't eaten anything. And so the evil one shows up and basically tries to get in to figure out what he's doing here. Because we already know from a little bit later, the demons, they know who he is, but they don't know why he's here. And so it's almost like...

Including Satan. Right. He didn't know he was going to die and save the world. No, he didn't. We know that from what is it? Corinthians, where it says they didn't know. First Corinthians forward. Because if they would have known, they would have never crucified the Lord of Glory.

I love this too because it shows the nature of God. Think about it. You come out of the wilderness. Like the whole message, the proclamation of this coming God is coming out of the wilderness, which I'm thinking. of the book of Exodus. You can't hardly read this without thinking of the book of Exodus, right? And God's people in the wilderness for 40 years before they went to the promised land.

So they're coming out of the wilderness to proclaim the coming of the kingdom and the king. The king arrives. He's baptized the moment of God, the Father speaks over him. So this is my son whom I'm well. Please, the spirit descends on him. And then that God, Emmanuel, God came to earth, became like us. He goes back into the wilderness. That's the first place he went.

Like he went back into the wilderness to go to the place where we're at. You know, the metaphor there is just unbelievable. It's so profound to me. Well, and doesn't Paul point that out, Zach in 1st Corinthians 10 when he compares that exact thing. He says, you know, when they went through the Red Sea and the cloud that was going over them, in essence, they were being baptized, he says. He uses that metaphor. they were being baptized to go now into the wilderness before they ever reached the promised land.

So you're right. It's such a strong shadow or picture of what's going to happen with Christ and then he did it for us too. I think that's the reason he did it. You know, the Hebrew writer says he had to be tempted in every way to so he could relate to his brothers. And so that's why he went out. The spirit took him into that wilderness to face temptation into every time Satan

used all of his craftiness and used the scriptures to try to attack, he came back and he said, nope, will of God, will a God, will of God. Every time he gets back to why he was there. It is written. Well, then, though in Psalms 23, about, you know, walking through the wilderness. You are, you are in your staff there is comfortable. Say that again, sad. About the wilderness, Psalms 23, about, you know, you'll work through,

walk through the valley of death. Oh, yeah. I will feel no evil. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great point. Because the Lord's with you. Right.

Yeah. Right. And you notice he kept combating that with, because Satan, it really shows you how crafty he is. So he knows who Jesus is, but he doesn't know why he's here. And he's using scripture, which has been the Holy Spirit carrying along all this time to get to Jesus as a way to try to convince him what to do. You talk about crafty.

I mean, that's a bold move, you know, when you think about it, to try this on the son of God. And yet that's how bold he is, not was, is, because he's still doing it. I mean, we're still facing the temptation. We're still facing the lies. We're still facing the misuse of what God said to try to convince you to do something. God doesn't want you to do. But I think the most important part of this is the reason that a lot of people quickly follow. away and you know you have that verse that because of trouble or persecution is because they don't

realize even why is jesus himself you know subjected to the wilderness in this moment but there's a reliance on you know god's power he receives the holy spirit and there's a testing that has to happen that makes you rely on him and you see that in our own lives i mean people who come to christ thinking that all their problems are going to go away and you're going to get all these rewards wards on earth and have, you know, the $20 million pair of shoes or if that's your goal, well, that's just frivolous. That's not going to work. I mean, he's called us to a life of suffering and to be used by God.

And when that happens, you are going to be persecuted. You are going to be tested. So it's not like he's taking the problems away. He's just giving you the ability to navigate through it to show the character of God, which is working in each and every one of us, which is what Jesus did. he did say if they hated me they will hate you also yeah he did so we shouldn't be surprised yeah and and i think that's the call for us to join into his suffering which nobody wants to suffer but i think that that's the that's the thing that i just can i'm just trying to get my mind around

is a god who would suffer a god who would condescend a god who would go into the wilderness voluntarily a God. Even think about the weakness of Christ here. Not only is he going into the wilderness to be tempted, he's intentionally fasting, you know, in this process, which you would think would make him more vulnerable. So what you continue to see with Christ at the very beginning of his ministry here, which is, by the way, also when he was baptized,

was the establishment of his ministry. It's a continual, intentional, making himself weak and vulnerable. I think that's the part why this kingdom message is so hard to explain. We've mentioned this kind of in the overtime last segment. It's so difficult.

One of the reasons is so difficult is because that is completely contrary to everything that we hold as humans. Like, we make myself vulnerable. No, I'm going to protect myself. I'm going to posture myself. I'm going to make sure. that I get what I deserve and that no one takes advantage of me and blah blah blah blah

position myself and then we have this god of the universe who's so much greater than we are and he takes the complete opposite approach that it's it's got to be divine you know to me that i don't even know how to make sense of that so let's uh let's take a look our last break so yes that to your point you talk about a different you said this earlier a different view of power jesus is showing us a completely different view of what real power he is having the power to do whatever you want to because you created everything and yet to totally give of yourself. Think about power in our country. The people that are in power right now, doesn't matter about parties or anything else. You know what their one goal is to stay in power

and to have more power and to try to rule over more of your life. I mean, that's the human side of. That's what Satan wants to do. He wants to control every aspect of your life. And it's just the opposite. Jesus says, I want you to love me and I want you to who say, please control who I am because I trust you, because you're immutable. You never lie. You never, you know, there's no one greater than you. That's why I want to serve you. So it's a completely different flip view.

And Jesus shows us that by his own personal walk. Oh, that's why I would love, Zach, you're the big movie guy. I would love for someone to do a movie on the Book of Revelation and have all these Christians going around like sheep, just getting a nice. which is what happened. And then you show them post-resurrection, not coming in vengeance and all, but actually smiling as in I'm now imperishable. Yeah.

But it's a story that nobody would want to tell because who would want to see a bunch of sheep getting slaughtered only to come back, but be bigger in character in that way you should have listened to me. Yeah. But that's basically the gist of it. But people just, they don't feel comfortable portraying that. Well, truthfully, when you told me that a few years, too, I was like, no, we could never do that because our view of revelation is probably the minority view, although I think we're right. But I think it ties into all this, you know, the end times and the eschatology and how this whole idea, I do think it ties in.

I think it ties in because like the, the, what's happening here is that people, we want to contain God. That's what we've always wanted to do. Let's put him in a box. Let's contain him. You know, they thought they had him contained to the temple.

And when they did that throughout the entire Old Testament, they bastardized the temple over and over and over again and kick God's presence out of it. They turned it into a prostitution and all that. You go through the Old Testament and you get to the end of it, you get to Malachi. And you're like, this ain't going to work. You know, this ain't going to work. work and then you have 400 years of silence.

Nobody says a word. And then all of a sudden, boom, here we are in Mark, chapter one. And this guy's coming out of the wilderness. And he's like, hey, about that thing that y'all, you know, we never could figure out how it was going to work. He's here. He's here. The new king is here.

The new kingdom is here. He's bringing something different. And the way this thing is going to end up is he's going to say this temple that y'all tried to keep me in. Yeah, that's coming down. That whole thing. is going to burn down. It's coming down. But I'm setting up a new temple. You take that temple down. You're going to take this temple down. I'm going to rebuild it in three days. And then the Holy Spirit's

going to come and he's going to live in you. And you're going to be the temple. You're going to be the temple of the Holy Spirit. God's presence is going to be with you always everywhere you go. Those of you who would put your faith in them. It is quite the story, the greatest story ever told, no doubt about it. But that's why in a lot of, you know, I remember when I was early in my marriage, and Missy had been raised to where when you met on Sunday mornings, you wore your best. And I would always have my camouflage on or perhaps, you know, I'd cleaned some ducks that morning and she would be like, are you going to change clothes?

And I would say no, because if someone in shabby clothes comes in to, visit, I want them to feel comfortable. She's like, well, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. But she had an epiphany when I said, well, I just quoted James 2-2. Just listen to this. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes and a poor man and shabby clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, here's a good seat for you,

but say to the poor man, you stand there or sit on the floor. by my feet. Have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? That ended that discussion to get to side's point. If the forerunner of Jesus was a guy from the wilderness wearing what he wore, I don't see how in the world you can make a point to where you make a setting on Sunday morning uncomfortable for anyone to come in. It should, be about the heart of the person and not what you're wearing. Yep. Well, it's a good part, Chase.

Well, at least when this happens and Jesus obviously comes out of the wilderness, which, by the way, there are angels. They're attending to him. And when he starts his ministry picking up in verse 14, it says, at least we know he's going to leave this unknown camel's hair, John the Baptist, his own, you know, person from Nazareth, to pick out some really upstanding temple-type followers to be his disciples. After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaimed the good news.

The time has come. The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe in the good news, which we've talked about as Zach said, this was the beginning now of his ministry. As Jesus walked beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. Well, surely he would pass these guys by what do they have to offer? follow me and I will make you fishers of men. And once they left their nets and followed him. When he had gone a little farther, he saw James, son of Zebedee and his brother John in the boat preparing their nests, two more fishermen. Without delay, he called them. And they left their father

Zebedee in the boat with the hired men and followed him. So kind of continuing in our theme of greatness in being and what you wouldn't expect. His first four picks were sea rats, commercial fishermen who would have had no standing in terms of the religious establishment. So again, he's continuing the narrative as he goes right into his next phase. Which goes to my point, you never want to be in a position of worldly wealth or pursuit of that, of materialism, where if Jesus showed up today, or as in Hebrews 13, you know, angels posed as strangers or this group of fishermen showed up at your church or your house. And you didn't welcome them in based on the way they look or what they did.

I mean, just think about the consequences of that. Here the savior of the universe or the forerunner shows up and you missed it. Just based on your appearance of what Christianity or God would be like, you would miss the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And now it almost works in reverse, Jay, it's because, you know, I don't know why,

but kind of more in the common air, a lot of churches are dressing down. You see people when they come. It's not like it used to be like what you described. And so now I almost have to tell a couple of people, look, it's okay. Keep wearing something nice. Just in case somebody comes in wearing nice,

I want them to feel comfortable in your setting. We've almost flipped the script, which is a good thing, I think, you know? Yeah, you know what happens? What happens when you live a kingdom, life when you're when you're fully invested in the kingdom and living in the presence of God. What happens is, is you move from trying to find splendor and like we want to see the big thing, right?

And that's how we get motivation in our daily, ordinary mundane lives. When you live a kingdom life, it's the, you see the splendor of God in the mundane. You see the splendor and the glory of God in the small. And I think that's what's happening here. Like we're so, we got to have the big thing, the big. show and I'm like, man, you know, the Bible says we're two or three are gathered, I'm there. And how many people, if they were in a church with two or three people,

they would just feel defeated, all right? They got to have the big show. No dress code. No dress code needed. No dress code needed. God's in the mundane. He's in the small. He's there.

And I think that's what I love it. So we're ending the podcast the way we began it by side saying he's just a dirt bag. And, but he's a dirt bag for Jesus, which is all the matters. Right. That's it. All right. That's it. So we're out of time.

But look, we're going to cross over to the overtime. I want to talk a little bit more about this calling of the disciples because it's the Luke 5 account for a Peter is really interesting. So I want to talk about that in the overtime. So we'll check that out. BlazTV.com slash Unashamed. If you want to subscribe to Blaze and follow him, get a few extra minutes with Uncle Sy and the Unashamed crew.

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