Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 557 | Jase's 3-Hour Tire Repair Turned Into a Bible Study with 20 People

Episode Date: October 2, 2022

Jase tells the story of a routine tire fix — while he was waiting in a crowded room, a man started asking him about the Gospel, so Jase ended up holding an impromptu Bible study for 20 people! Phil's excited about another "no pulpit required" moment. Al and Jase discover why Baton Rouge is called "The Red Stick." Zach describes what boomerang evangelism is and why you never know what seeds are being planted or when they might turn into someone giving their life to Christ. Jase recounts a particular scene from a chick flick. Phil shares the most exciting thing he's ever been a part of in his life.  Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Jase, I'm my, Lisa and I have been on quite the run here on the road, and the run continues. Today I'm in the red stick. Do you know where that is? The Red Stick. Is that Baton. Is that Baton Rouge? That's the French for the Red Stick. Which I have no idea why they call it the Red Stick, but that's what they call it. a, we have this thing called the internet that divulges information when you ask a question. Or Phil's former friend, what was her name, Athena, no, Alexa, but y'all had a, yeah, but Phil and Alexa had a parting of the ways. Yeah.

All she was supposed to do is wake me up when I wanted to wake me up. And after three days, it came time for her to wake me up. She said, we have a computer pop up. I said, I'll get rid of it. Get it. Throw it away. Sleeping on the job, Alexa. Only after you interrogated her dad on what she knew about the gospel in the Bible.

Don't forget that part. It reinforced what I had been thinking of what these computers would do to you. That reinforced the idea. Alexa couldn't make the cut. She didn't wake me up on morning. What's your problem, Alexa? probably got to keep on computers. And then she asked you about Sae, right?

Yeah, I went back to just the old timer, you know, click, click, click. So, Al, in 1699, French visitors called the spot red stick Baton Rouge because of a boundary marker pole stained with animal blood standing on the river bluff. Well, this got weird. I think that was better off not know it. I just, yeah, I don't know. You think they were, the message was don't come here, don't stop? Maybe that message was, don't stop here.

Wow, that's two minutes of my life I'll never get back. So I got some good news, Al, because that was a weird thing to look up. But it's there for you, Phil, if you ever want it. I'm sure you could find the same thing in an hour in your encyclopedias. But it was, yeah, so it was the Native American, two Native American tribes, and that bloodstained pole was the boundary marker between two basically hunting camps. Yeah, well, it's interesting. I mean, it's not a whole lot different than what goes down in your parts out here

when somebody puts a stake in the ground and claims the deer area, you know, what people y'all do with the deer hunting. I stay at all that. But I do remember, I've told that story before about duck hunting because I joined a hunting club so I could duck hunt because they said we're full. We were taking them more deer hunters. I was like, yeah, I don't care anything about the deer, but I'll pay the fee if I can duck hunt that little break. They said, well, perfect, because nobody duck hunts here. So we went down there, started shooting ducks.

And then three members, club members, came in a boat while we're hunting and started nailing a bull. board on a tree that was 10 foot in front of our blind while we had decoys out. And I said, what are you doing? They said, we're claiming this spot. I was like, well, we're in the hunting club, and we've already claimed this spot. And he said, I don't see a sign. Yeah, that really happened. You know what you should have done?

You should have taken a red stick stain with animal blood and stuck it in the ground and said, cross this line. So what I was going to share with you. So usually we do our podcast the first two days, you know, Monday and Tuesday of the work week. But this week, something happened, and I don't know what that was. But we're doing my travels, yeah. Your travels cause us to do Monday and Wednesday, but I want to inform you. So yesterday I had the day off.

I didn't even get up and go till, honey. I played the guessing game. I said, I don't think they're coming. And so I didn't show up. And how many y'all kill yesterday? Zero. Zero. It's such a good feeling when you, because you savor the sleep.

But it's a tough game to play because if they do come, you will hear about it the rest of your life. But I did know. I showed up this morning. The first teal that lit in about three seconds, boom, woo. I heard a shotgun go off and I said, boy, old Jace, he came, he came ready to go. That was the highlight of the morning. That was the only deal we shot. But anyway, but I wanted to tell y'all that I actually had a podcast yesterday on my day off.

What? Would you like to? No, it was not recorded. Well, it was recorded in the minds of the audience. So here's what happened. I'll tell you this story. This is a good story. You'll like it.

So my truck, you know, they, what do they call that? What do they call it when they take a standard? truck and then they transform it. They didn't baptize it, but they don't think of the word. What's it called? They trick, not trick it up. They trick it out. Trick it out.

Is that what they call it? Yeah, trick it. Yeah. So they put like bumpers on it. They, I have a winch on it. These lights for nighttime and they raised it up. And so, and it's, okay, they made it look like a mad. spider. It went from a spider to a mad spider. Just

and, uh, it sounds like for me, you had a little extra cash hanging around and you just thought you'd. No, they, they didn't charge me. It's a company who does this. And they said, we see that you have a truck in need of renovations. It's a brandy truck. And I was like, what do you have in mind? They said, well, I tell you what, if you'll let us do what we do and you take a picture in front of it, we won't charge you anything. But we just wanted to, it's a marketing deal.

They're like, we want to show people what we do. So I went, let me think about that. Yes, please. And so anyway, but somewhere in the process, my tires got misaligned. And so I was driving brand new tires on the thing. And it felt weird, but it was on the inside of the tires. So long story short, I had to get two new tires.

So I did. Well, I went back up there because it started feeling the same way. And I thought, I want to make sure this thing is still a line right. So I took it to the tire place. All right. That's why on my day off, I was going, because I'm fixed to, you know, it's right before Duxes and we're fixed to be driving a lot. So I go up there to the tire place, and I need my oil change.

Well, when I walked in, this place was busy. It was bustling. So I thought, oh, boy. But a guy, as soon as I walked in, he was. he went, Jace. I looked up, I didn't think I had ever seen him before. And he stuck his hand out, and he said, I just got through seeing you. And I thought, okay, I came from my house.

What's he talking about? Well, he was watching a podcast. So he saw me on the podcast, and then he saw me at the tire place. So it was weird for him. Yeah. You know. And he said, I'm trying to get my life. Right out of his computer screen, you walked right into his existence.

Exactly. So it was weird. Well, everybody was looking around like, well, this is weird. Who is this guy? You know, talking about me because I'm sure some of the people, they just thought I was a vagrant. And so he was talking about he had just got involved in a celebrate recovery. And he was trying to, and somebody from the celebrate recovery, not the one we have at our church, but a different one, had recommended that he listened to our podcast. So he did.

So here's what's funny about this. So I said, I am. Well, he starts asking me questions. He's like, what do you think? The first question was, he said, what do you think is the hardest thing to get over, you know, as a Christian, you know, from your past life? So I was like, well, then I felt like I needed to explain the gospel and the actual, because I'm like, if you don't have the Holy Spirit, if you haven't surrendered to Jesus. well, it's all going to be difficult, you know. But here's what's weird is there were so many people in there.

We weren't sitting next to each other. So he was across the way and I was across the way and there's people. We're in a circle and you have all the people working there. So Phil, this was a one hour discussion on Jesus transformation. We got into his biggest problem. He said, here's my biggest problem. He said, the love of money. and he said i i heard y'all read you know that it's a it's the it's the it's a root of all

evil and he's like well that's me so what do you what advice do you can you share you know so but that was the nature of it but then it hit me because i thought now here's a guy who looked like i mean he looked like he's going to celebrate recovery you know what i mean he was he's he's a little rough on the on outside but he had a good good at heart and he was inquiring about that but i thought here we had probably 20 25 people listening to this conversation nobody else said a word and i thought i wonder what they thought about that you know it had to affect them you were fulfilling romans chapter 12 off of your bodies of living sacrifice which is your form of worship and then as far as it depends on you try to live at peace

with all men. Well, I really wasn't sacrificing. I didn't have anything else to do it past the time for me. But it was a little, it was a... That was a great way to share Jesus, what you were there. It was a Jesus conversation for an hour in a place that wasn't a church. It was a tire place with everyone listening. But it didn't really hit me until I walked out, I thought, I bet those people thought,

what an interesting conversation because you know what a strike many people they weren't believers probably no pulpit necessary there we got we're getting the job done did you get on a raised portion where you were talking down no i did not get this was just real talk now i went through hebrews 12 1 because like about the money remember what we talked about i said look some god some things god gives you are blessings but they can become a weight. I said, money is one of those things. I was like, the reason I think, because he said, well, how did your family handle?

Because y'all obviously have a bunch of money now, and you're famous. I was like, well, but we found true happiness when we didn't have any money, and we found that in Jesus. I said, now when those blessings came, they can become weights, if not properly handled. He said, well, that's what I need. How do I properly handle that? I said, don't wake up every morning thinking that you're fixed to strike at rich and all your problems are going to go away. I said, that's a bad, I said, you need to wake up every morning saying, I've been forgiven, I'm going to live forever,

God's got a purpose for my life. And if I have some money in my pocket, guess what? That's just great. Even with my background, you're telling me that I have been through one sacrifice, Jesus Christ, what he did for you. you're telling me that because of that, I have been made perfect forever as I'm being made holy. Exactly. I just thought you'd get a kick out of that. No, I love it.

And that whole discussion was about money is the Philippians 4. When Paul said, I've learned what it means to be content in any and every circumstance, whether I have plenty or I have nothing, I can do all things through Christ Jesus who lives in me. And so you think about it, that means that Jesus is enough whether you had a little or whether you had a lot. So your description was perfect because we've experienced both. Hey, you can tell you what's funny, the part I laughed out loud on. So I went through the rich young ruler. I just quoted it from memory.

And look, so I get through it. And I said, what did you think about that? And he said, I don't like that story. He didn't like to go sell everything, yeah. I said, well, you know what? I said, you're going to make it. You're going to make it in Jesus. And he said, why do you say that?

I said, because you're honest. I was like, there's a lot of things that when you believe Jesus is real, there is a lot of moments that you read something. And you're like, hmm, well, I don't like that because you're resonating with that. This is what repentance is. You realize that God has his best interest for you and your best interest. He was pricked because of the word of God. Now you has to understand that when you feed on the scriptures,

you will be able to train yourself to distinguish good from evil. If your way of life is, but I'll pursue money at all costs. I mean, I have a love for money. money. If that's the case, what about when you die and they put you in the ground? Is the money going to help you? They ain't going to help you. Yeah, no, no U-Hauls. Hey, hey, let's take a break. Yeah, that's what I love about guys and folks in recovery ministries like CR and AA. It's like some of those questions. Because they're focused a whole lot more on transformation than, you know, sometimes we are. And because they know, they know how sinful

they are. They've seen the, they've seen the consequences of sin. Sometimes, as we convince ourselves that we're not that bad off when we are. And we don't focus on transformation enough. I think his question is question we all have, like how do I experience the transforming power of God? I was thinking of, there's the author whose name is Larry Krabb. And he,

in an interview, I think it was an interview. He said, after 50 years of walking with Jesus and reading the word, he said, I'm just kind of disappointed in how little transformation I've seen. and I've got that I identify with that but I think the answer to Phil's point you had quoted this loosely out of Hebrews 5 yep what it says but for solid food is for the mature I would add this word in there that you didn't mention but you reference it who because of practice

have trained their senses to distinguish or discern good from evil you bet you so I think that how do you get out of of like if if money's your thing or maybe it's sex or pornography or gossip or whatever your, whatever your thing is and you're not seeing transformation in your life. I mean, the easy answer is to read your Bible. The hard answer is by practice and constant use, you train yourself. That's it. By practice and constant use to distinguish good for me. You have to exercise your spirit just like you would exercise your body.

If you said, how do I run a 5K? well, you have to go out there to start doing it, and over time, it won't be that difficult, but you have to do it. Yes, not rocket science, because the fruit of the spirit, if in fact you're being made holy and you are feeding on the scriptures and you are training yourself with the help of the Holy Spirit, then you will see things like love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, this faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, and that far outweighs of the influx of money coming your way.

The money is not going to be able to give you those qualities. It just won't. You can spend it and buy this and buy that and buy. And your dad, you've got to remind people of the stories of transformation, too. You know, we had Rucker on the podcast a while back, and Zach was telling me how much people had responded to that. And the reason why is it's an incredible story. of transformation. And you got to tell those stories. Last night we were here, Lisa and I were speaking. And it was just briefly at the end of this gala. And it was a celebration of, you know, Roe v. Wade being overturned. And there were a lot of legislators there from Louisiana. And now we banned abortion in Louisiana, which I'm very proud we did. And so we got up at the end. Well, Lisa, for the first five minutes, she just talked about her being a 16 year old girl and having nowhere to go. And so she had an abortion. But you talk about bring reality.

into the room. I mean, like, you know, it's a big topic of, you know, abortion. But then when somebody is there and just reminds you that you can be transformed and God can do amazing things in spite of our weaknesses, I mean, all the people afterwards, the Mississippi Attorney General was there and the solicitor, the ones who argue the Dobbs case. And they came up in tears. And they were telling Lisa, thank you for reminding us while we fight the fight. And so it's transformational stories.

that really resonate with people. And I think, Jace, you discovered that even in a public setting like that, there's no telling who else was impacted in that circle that you'll never know. That just from that discussion, you know, kind of a directional dialogue, which is Jesus style, you know. Yeah, transformation, if you think about it, you're not going to experience transformation from just a simple cognitive understanding of the scripture alone. You have to embody it and you have to experience it. And I think why these testimonies like Lisa, her testimony is so powerful is because it's a way that people can experience truth, not just know it.

And you do have to know it, but you also have to experience it and embody it. And that's what I love about recovery ministry like CR, which we're about to start at our church as well. But we actually just started doing the first phase of that. But we think about CR is geared towards spiritual formation, towards forming the spirit, a lot of exercises that get people to start contemplating the truths of Scripture, and particularly in what comes to their own life, their own brokenness. And with that, over time, you know, you experience a substantial transformation. And you look back and it's like, wow, look at what God's done in the last, you know, 10 years.

So it's cool that when you tell that story, Jay, is just thinking that that guy was hungry. And he was so honest and raw with you that it's almost refreshing when you, when someone says like, Yeah, I don't like that story. That's refreshing today. Oh, I loved it. That's what I thought it was, you know, I figured he was young in the faith, and he took this as a sign. Because the last thing you think you're going to see,

if you're trying to better your life and somebody recommended a podcast and you're watching it, the last thing you think you're going to see is the actual person that you just listen to. Well, he's looking at it like. Plus, you go in there. Oh, you want a couple of tires. That's it. well i already had the tires i just wanted them to make sure that it was aligned properly which it needed and were they no were they lying no they weren't and so they fixed it and i was there three hours

but hour of it was that and so uh but then i didn't mind because i just thought i mean this was a i think it was a god orchestrated thing i mean called me crazy but i think it was Well, and that's the moments that you have to be ready for. You know, a lot of times our audience will ask, well, how do you do that? You just speak what truth is. And I love it when people have questions. I met a young man last night at this event, you know, and he can't. He said, I just can't believe you're here.

And I said, I'm here. And he was like, I mean, I watch you on the podcast and I look up and you're here. And I said, yeah, I know. And so are you. But it's like you were saying. Yeah. It reminds me of one of those. Yeah.

It reminded one of those chick flick movies that Missy got me to watch one time but I think Tom Cruise was in it I don't even remember it but it's like they got to the end and he was like I think he was going to ask the girl to marry him I can't remember exactly what it was

and so he finally made up his mind I got to do this I'm going to do it and so he drives to our house but when he got there it was like all these women had gathered and it was like a women

women's counseling session. And they were basically talking about what was wrong with all their husbands or boyfriends. And he eased in there. And Clayton, Tom Cruise. Yeah. And he's looking like, but there's all these women here.

And she's just shared that he's just a loser. And then he just thought, well, if I got to just do this here. I mean, because he didn't want to do it in front of all the other women. Because I kind of felt that yesterday. I thought, because when he asked me the question, I thought, I mean, there's 20 strangers here. I don't want to bother them, but he's like raising his voice across the room, you know, and I just looked around and I thought, well, if this is where it's got to go down, this is where it's going to go down.

Did you tell him, you complete me at the end of the discussion? No, we didn't get that. That was a little weird, though. Yeah, yeah, I was going to ask the same. question. But you know what that's called? Lee Strobel calls that boomerang evangelism. I can't remember his exact story, but he heard the gospel. I think he heard it. Someone else was having the conversation and he overheard it, I think, is what happened. I may be getting that wrong, but there was some kind of somebody experienced the transforming power of Jesus and his story.

And it wasn't a one-on-one conversation. It was somebody was eavesdropping in on another conversation. So you never know out of those 20 people, man. It may be interesting. You may look back in five years since somebody might meet you and say, hey, you remember that time you were in a tire shop? Yeah. Oh, that's true. Well, I've told this story before, but the guy that ordered the duck call, that's all he wanted was a duck call. And in the midst of that, he cursed God.

He would GD this and GED that. So I finally, before he hung up, I said, by the way, I said, you got my duck call coming? I said, yeah, I got it coming. I said, by the way, I said, why do you keep cursing the only one that could save you from death? And it was silence. Well, he said, hey, send me my duck call. Well, about 10 minutes went by, and the phone rang. He said, hey, it's me again.

He said, you know what? I never thought about that. I said, well, you're cursing him. And I said, unless he can get you out of here alive, I don't know nothing. No one else could. I said, do know what you ought to do? you ought to come over here and I'll tell you about the one you're cursing you may change your mind he said I might do that I said well you are to well a week goes by knock on the door he steps in the

door and he said I'm the one that was cursing God and you tell me you're going to show me why I shouldn't so I told him about Jesus he was converted about 15 or 20 years later I ran into him and he was one of the leaders at that church where I was speaking so you never know just one little telephone conversation or like jace need his tire fixed and turned out to be a bible study yeah it was good well and to your point we ought to put that into practice jays what you did there that's a good thing to practice well i i'm just want to say you know first peter three 15 always be prepared in your heart set apart christ's lord always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but do this with General of some respect.

So it wasn't like I planned doing that. He's the one that broke down the wall of social banter and just wanted to have the conversation. And then I thought, because he was seeking, which is, that's what you're looking for as seekers. Let's take a break. You're looking for seekers. Yeah. The authenticity of his faith early on was evident. And I don't know, even if you weren't a believer and you were sitting in that circle, you had to appreciate.

Because look, you know, you try not to base an opinion on someone based on outward appearance. But, I mean, he spent a lot of time at the tattoo parlor. And he just, you know, he was just kind of rough. He was a rough guy. You could tell he's made some tough decision. And so now you could sense that he's really trying to get his life straight. And he just didn't have a fear of what other people thought in that moment because he thought, this is important to me. And I'm taking this as a sign and I want to have a conversation.

So I was glad to be a part of it. Well, what Jesus called him in Mark I, we mentioned last podcast, Mark 117. He said, come follow me. And I'll make you fishers of men. They didn't have any fear because they said immediately. It says here they left what they were doing. and they let their nets and they followed him. But I think what I love about that opening, your story there,

and we joke around Phil about the pulpit, no pulpit required comment that keeps coming up. But really, that's what this whole thing is happening. And Mark here, you got Jesus showing up. And up until this point, if you wanted to experience the presence of God, if you wanted to have a meeting with God, you had to go to the temple. And what's going to happen throughout Jesus'

ministry and then the coming of the Holy Spirit is that we are now the temple. So like literally instead of going, instead of you having to go to the temple, like in that situation what happened, that tire shop, the temple of God walked into the tire shop. You got to remember. Jesus had more trouble in the structure, the church building, as they say, he had more trouble with that group way more than anybody else. Well, think about it. He goes to the synagogue and.

21, you know, and he begins to teach because they allow people to get up and say whatever they wanted. And so, which results in him casting out a demon. So you're talking about turn the synagogue on its head. Yeah. They're like, what just happened here? That's my point. And so then, but in the next paragraph, look, they left the synagogue. Well, then they go to the home of Simon and Andrew. You're like, well, nothing's going to happen here. Well, you know it's something happened because it's in the Bible. Well, Simon's mother-in-law was in bed with a fever, and they told Jesus about it.

They're like, this guy cast out demons, how about taking care of the family here? She's got a fever. Can you do anything with that? Maybe even if it was sarcastic. And he's like, well, he went to her, took her hand, helped her up, the fever left her, and she began to wait on them.

Yeah. And well, then that evening after sunset, look, people are coming to Jesus, You know, now they're at a house and the whole town gathered at the door. And Jesus and the rest of wasn't one word about the microbes going from her to them because she had been sick, might have had the microbes. I think he took care of them too while he was in. He's a microbe controller.

Yeah. Have you ever heard that phrase? Yeah, but that story, Jason, that story's highlighted even more with the guy with leprosy, which is where we left off last time in the text, because this was something that made you unclean in the temple. This guy couldn't go to the temple. He couldn't go to the synagogue. He was cast off.

So you talk about Jason, in the modern vernacular, we see people and you look at him, you're like, man, like you described, that guy's rough around the edges. They're seen as unclean. You see somebody like that come into a church building, and people are looking like,

what's that guy's story? Instead of saying, And if you're willing, you can cleanse me. And then Jesus said, I'm willing. And he touched him. And as Jay said last time on the podcast, that's something he wouldn't have been able to do as a rabbi unless you had the power to heal him when you touched him. Well, right. Yeah, he was playing supernatural tricks, which, by the way, I saw there's a show coming out on one of these, I don't know, history or national geographic.

It was titled Supernatural. I can't wait to watch that. I hope it's about Jesus. But if it's not, I will give you a full report. Somehow I don't think it's going to be about Jesus. I read these texts. Oh, Supernatural. I haven't seen it yet.

I just saw the commercial. It was like... You're talking for a TV show? Yeah, it was a TV show. It's coming out. They're like, it's coming soon. And it said, supernatural. And they had some...

I saw some critters. That's a very... That's an old TV show, right? It's been out on a long time. Is it? Right? What's it about? out.

Yeah. There was one called Supernatural. And Jep's buddies was the act on it. This was like natural geographic and I saw some animal. They had some real cool close up. This is about like it. And look, they brought up on the commercial, it said natural. And then they put up super, supernatural.

The most excited, the most exciting thing I have witnessed in the last 50 years of following Jesus. No doubt about it has been the most exciting thing, one thing I've ever done in my life. What? To see people go from, like your buddy there, you was talking. From Lost to Say. Oh, that's right. It's the most exciting thing I've ever done in my life is being a part of that.

All in Jesus. Transformation, that's why in Luke 15 when he told three stories about, which we're fixed to get into this story about in chapter two, when he's called Levi and he's eating with. with all the text collectors and the sinners. And they're like, hey, what are you doing hanging out with them? When he tells those stories, the joy that is mentioned in heaven and on earth that happens when someone returns to God through Jesus.

It causes us joy. These are the pick-me-ups of our faith. You know what's interesting, Jay's? Well, I never finished my thought. The reason I brought up the setting. Hang on, let's take a break. The reason I brought up this. synagogue to the home is if because if impractical reasons okay if you go to the synagogue and you

encounter Jesus you what they did the supernatural progression of that was to then take Jesus into their home now there they had the physical literal Jesus but we have the spirit and it's the same concept if what is happening your experience with God you know that happens usually in a church people go they have an altar call but you then have to take jesus in your home now granted this woman was sick but whatever the problems are i mean there's a formula there for being a disciple of jesus and following jesus and i'm trying to i think this is portraying a formula of that it's in the synagogue it's in the home it's in your hobby it's in the tire place i was that was the point i was making when you look at the diverse

in where these occurrences were taking place. That's all I was going to say. Well, that's a great point. I love the same thing that he's doing in the synagogue, which was a center of worship, right? That's the worship place. That's the temple of where. That's where you go to worship.

That's where you go to do the God stuff. He's doing the God stuff in that place. But then what Jesus is doing is he's taking it out of that. and saying, no, no, no, it's everywhere. And John's Gospel, when, you know, when he gets to the woman at the well. Including tire, tire, tire, including, yeah, everywhere, everywhere you go, which is, that's the call. I mean, that was the whole question the woman at the well had, which is, we're in John's gospel, where do we worship?

Like, you guys worship over there in Jerusalem, you know, we worship, you know, over here. Like, where, where does it take place? where's the, where's the center? And he's like, oh, you have no idea what's happening to do you. He's like, a time is coming and the fact is now here where you're not going to worship the Father in that mountain nor in Jerusalem. The Father now requires worshippers who will worship him in truth and in spirit. And that, I mean, that is just that is a radical, you know, you're talking about transformation.

Like, I don't have to go to a place to get filled up. Like, I, like, I'm carrying, I'm housing God himself in my body. I mean, that's pretty profound. Look, what's about to unfold there? To go to Phil's point about the joy, because look, so I'm excited after that happened. Because most of the times I would have come home and said, I spent three hours at the tired place. Can you believe that three? I mean, three hours is a long time.

But I was happy because we had the conversation. So then I shared with Missy, who was not having the best of days because our little baby was just not in a good mood. but I had so much joy Well then she got excited about the conversation Well then I was like let me get let me have that boy It made child rear here So I went over because I have I told you all I have his walk-up songs I have his playlist that usually takes care of any discomfort

But it wasn't working I played the ring of fire It just didn't work I was playing the worship building I was like there's got to be a song in here And so I kept trying different songs And I told this in the duck blind this morning and then I hit his new song, which was, you ready for this?

Staying alive by the Bee Gees. When I cranked that song up, he got a smile on his face. Well, the BG guy is singing so high that our little one started trying to emulate that with his voice. He started screaming at it, not like crying because he was grinning. But he was like,

ah, ha, ha. And I was like, well, he is. He was lost. What Johnny Cash was impossible for Johnny Cash to do. Johnny Cash could not do the BG, see. The BGs. So I started, when I started trying to get into my falsetta and doing this, because now I'm like, this is working, this is working.

We have happiness and joy. Well, when I started doing that, well, my two little lap dogs, they thought now we had gone into wolf cry. So they started, oh, ooh, everybody. So then I look up and Missy's grinning while she's recording this on her phone. And I said, see, everybody's happy now. It only took one Bible study at the Tower Place to trickle down. And now we're all dancing to stay in alive and everybody's happy.

I love it. I think it's worthy of note. I think one thing is worthy of notes. I'll just say again, as I mentioned this other day, Mark chapter one, you scholars have said that was the first time, that was the first gospel that you see. It's been, God has been silent for 400 years, not a word. Everybody's waiting on all these prophecies to be fulfilled.

Well, you get to Mark chapter one, and one thing I noticed, if you wanted to do just kind of a little test, the Apostle Paul told the Corinthians, he said, for I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. Well, if you look down below there, we do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age. Now, 400 years of quietness

and all these, you're looking at the Roman Empire, which was in place when that was written, then you got the one behind it, the Greeks, then the one behind it, the meat old person, then the one behind it, the Babylonians. We speak a message of wisdom who are coming to nothing,

not the one, not the rulers of this age. we speak of God's secret wisdom. So when Jesus said, the time has come, my time has come, you're saying, uh-oh, what's fixing to happen? We speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden, not a word for 400 years, and that God destined for our glory before time began. And Jesus Christ is everybody to this day, he is the marker of all. time we count time by that's a valid point yeah that's why he started in hebrews one said he had spoken

by prophets but in these last days that's right um he spoken none of the rulers of this age understood it none of them all these empires that have come and go well when mark gets there he says none of the rulers of this age understood it jesus him crucified for for if they had they would not have crucified the lord of glory so you're saying Oh, my goodness. In other words, the salvation of the human race is just right there, never been heard of before. Some guy was coming out of the woods chasing grass arbors and eating honey.

He's hotter and baptizing people. And you're saying, Jesus said, my time has come. The kingdom is near. And without saying it, and I'm the king. It's the most amazing thing I've ever read in my life. I concur. Hang on that. Let's take our last break.

Yeah. And the point, I think, of what, when we're talking about transformation here, you read that what Phil was just reading here, what he says is that the Lord of Glory, but as is written, this is a quote out of Isaiah, things which no eye has seen. Yep. And ear has not heard. Yep. in which have not entered the hearts of man, all that God has prepared to those who love him. So you think, like, how does transformation take place? Here's how transformation takes place.

Like, you have to have a transformation of your desires. You have to go from desiring sin to desiring God. And you think, well, how do I do that? It's the Holy Spirit. He reveals to you the things that nobody has understood, the great things that God has prepared for those who love you. verse 10, for to us, God revealed them. What?

All that God has prepared for those who love him. He's revealed that to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. So then when you move over like in the Gospel John, and Jesus starts to promise the arrival of the counselor, the Holy Spirit, he says when he comes, he's going to guide you into all truth. He's going to make known to you what is mine. What all that means is this, is that if you want true transformation,

It's not just us grinding out 80 years of existence and trying not to sin. That's a miserable life. We have to see the beauty and the wonder of God. We've got to taste and see that the Lord is good. And the way that we taste and see that he's good is that the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, illuminates our heart. And by practice, by constant use, in cooperation with the Holy Spirit, we train ourselves to distinguish what's good from what is evil.

and we see that, man, God's way is better. That's where life is. So I think that's what Jesus is kind of at the very beginning of it in Mark Chapter 1 is at the very beginning of him unfolding, like that message right there. The spirit through Jesus for the first time can be given to everyone. That's what's going down here. You can receive God's spirit. Boy, what off, what a way to live.

And that's the ultimate game. Game changer. You know, it's interesting, though, because you were talking, you were talking about the, the concept, Jase, of taking, going out of the synagogue and into the home. And I thought it was interesting because he also sends the leper back into the temple. Because, you know, he tells him, he says, see that you don't tell this to anyone, which of course, he knew he was going to tell everybody knew. But go, he says, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing. as a testimony to them. In other words, when you were cleansed of something, now, of course, you could go back into the temple. Jesus sends him in there, which is really interesting to me because he sends it back in as the testimony that he's been healed.

And so he can now make the sacrifices. So he sends him back into the system that he created from the Old Testament, which I thought was really interesting. The time is not quite there yet for what's going to happen after his death. He sends the guy back into the test. one says look yeah but i think i think there's that i think there's something ironic about this now here's my theory on that i could i could be wrong do i have that shirt on today no i have a shirt says i could be wrong i could be wrong but if there was no cure back there for leprosy well i think

jesus did it i could be wrong because that's the first time anyone had ever no one had ever have gone in and said, I've been cleansed from leprosy. So I need to do whatever this ceremony is. Well, wow, that had never happened before. So you're saying that's the testimony. Yeah, I think they thought, I think Jesus planted the seed in their minds. Well, how are you cleansed? How did that happen? Because it was, there was no cure for it. I looked this up in the history of leprosite. They didn't have a cure for it. Now all of a sudden, And this guy's like, I'm going to go through this ceremonial washing because I've been cleansed from leprosy.

So I probably, here's what I probably think happened. I think the people at the temple when he walked in, they moved him over to the mental illness ceremony. Whatever that was. They said, oh, you've been cured from leprosy. Oh, okay. They're still working on that to this day, aren't they? Yeah, but I think they can treat it now. treat lepros.

Well, but here's the thing though, Jay's. There were other things like a woman on her period. You remember the woman that had the bleeding? I mean, there were other things that people did have and then it was over and they went back in and now they could make sacrifices. So I think the general thing was now you're right, you're back right with the system, but you're right. He would have been a unique case. I never thought about that. Well, right.

I think he was. I had leprosy. Yeah. I think it was just that the idea of, wait a minute, you know, it created buzz and it's like, well, what, what's happened here? But one other point I want to make out is after, you know, he healed so many people, he spoke to synagogue, then he goes to the house, well, then he's up way late because people, the whole town's coming there, you know, before we get to the guy of the university. And then it, that morning he got up while it was still dark. And it was just, in that progression, you would just think. you wouldn't read that but it just shows you the true heart of jesus that he was he was literally

trying to share and preach with everything in his being he was getting the the least amount of sleep possible and i wanted to bring that up because i think the chosen one of my favorite episodes in that in the chosen in season two is where they depicted this moment right here which is doesn't seem like a big moment, but they had, because Jesus was not in it. He was out healing people. It's like the day just kept getting longer and longer.

But while he was doing that, all his followers were arguing about various things that were coming up. And then, you know, at the end, I don't want to, if you hadn't seen it, you know, where you've been, but at the end he comes up. And then he didn't say a word,

but they were convicted and felt guilty about all the complaints, complaints about their day and he's literally worked and accepted upon helping people all day. It was a powerful, powerful, powerful, powerful episode, probably my number one out of those. I wanted to make that point because we do the same thing. We argue about our little lives and all. And you know, God's working. You're not going to outwork him.

He's working. He wants to work through you. Yeah, well, that's a great point, Jay, which I can totally relate to. I'm on this run now. I mean, we've been going two weeks. And it's just one city after another, one group of people. They're excited for about this, that, and the other. And we were signing some books the other day.

And there was a long line of people. And we got to the last two people. And she said, I know y'all have to be tired. And I said, nope. I said, I am just as excited to talk to you as I was the first person in this line. Because I made it my goal a long time ago that I was there on God's behalf. And so I'm not going to run out of Jews until, you know, I go home to be with the Lord. So, but I get it just the humanity part of you.

You get tired, you know, and yet these people have come to see you and hear what you have to say. It's like, you know, I have to speak. I have to be who I am in front of them. So I see this as more just the ultimate picture of Jesus as a human being as well as being the son of God. I mean, don't you think it's in there for a reason. They're giving you those details for a reason. Yeah, I agree. The Holy Spirit is.

I mean, it was when you, when you read these. these letters more closely and then you insert yourself in the situation, which when we do this in the next chapter or two, it gets really good. But you realize then he had to be tired. I mean, he's being swunged. And he's just going on and on and on. And meanwhile, instead of people patting him on the back and all,

there's plots on how to kill him. And they didn't have a lot of things like air conditioners, fresh running water, you know, hot water. I don't know whether they had soap, whatever. But, you know, you just, you've been camped out for three years, walking around in the dust. You've been in that part of the country. Would you like to live there for three years on foot?

I'm sure he smelled. I'll just say that. Yeah. To Al's point and to Jason's point, I think he's accomplishing two things here. I mean, he is showing his humanity and his compassion by going out and touching someone who was. leper, which the Pharisees would have never done that.

They would have never showed that kind of compassion. And then he's simultaneously showing his divinity by healing this person. And the irony of this is that the Pharisees in action. COVID. The Pharisees, you couldn't find 20 people who had touched one now. Well, I know. Well, I think about the Pharisees, though, the difference between the Pharisees and Jesus, the Pharisees lacked humanity and divinity, but claimed to have both.

And Jesus, who actually, he possesses. I mean, he embodied it. I think that's the dichotomy. They had no compassion and they had no real power. And then this guy, you know, Jesus shows up and he's full of compassion and he has all the power. So that's a great note to wrap this podcast up. We're out of time. But we're going to talk a little bit more about this in our overtime segment.

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