Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 560 | Jase Explains Gender Reveal Parties to Phil & the HOA vs. Jase's Yard Chicken

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

Phil gets educated on what the color of smoke bursting from a cannon could possibly have to do with a baby, and Al discusses hilarious gender reveal mishaps. Jase explains how the cell phone has become a part of the human anatomy and how social media is circumventing authenticity. Jase explains the weird rules found in the Old Testament and highlights the way that people use religion to elevate themselves to a place of self-righteousness. And Al laughs about the HOA taking offense at Jase's yard chicken. Watch the Unashamed overtime show, only on BlazeTV: https://BlazeTV.com/Unashamed - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're back. Unashamed podcast. I'm still at the Southern Lair, down here at my place in Gulf Shores. Jay, you had all your family in. How did that go? It's the first time they kind of been back to them.

You know, I don't get in on the scheduling of all these activities that. I guess my wife is in charge of that, but I look up and every time the family comes in know we all get together it's it's like we're doing some kind of you know retreat or like we're at a camp and it's but i'm like where's the schedule it's like we're going here because she's like hey we're leaving it in 530 this was on friday afternoon i was like oh okay well i never asked where we were going i went to one of phil you you this is i got you'll get a kick out of this so i actually went, I got in a vehicle with my family, and we went to a gender reveal party. Yeah, I feel terrible about missing that.

Well, it was my first one. And, you know, I didn't know if it was, if in the Christian world, this is a response to the confusion that seems to be going on in our culture about what gender they are or, you know, just gender issues. So now what they do is that this was, so people close to us, you know, the woman she's pregnant, you know, everybody's happy and,

but people want to know, is this a boy or a girl? So they, we get together, they have a meal, and that's what we did. So here was the problem from my perspective. So, because I was kind of bewildered with what's going on. I mean, look, they had a, they had prime rib on.

the grill so i thought well this will be good so then he said okay we're ready so we all go outside so the couple they get out there and they had what looked like uh like a some kind of canister in their hands and now i was looking around because i wasn't sure what was fixed to happen and everybody had their phones up and so they were giving a little speech we're we're thankful you know for all our family and friends here to support us. Well, then they, like, pump this canister, and I would say it was the equivalent to a small bomb going on. I mean, I jumped.

All the babies started crying. I mean, this thing was loud. And so then people started hollering, and I said, well, which is it? Is it a boy or a girl? And Missy said the color of the confetti, it was blue. That means it's a boy. I said, well, you might should have told me that.

I didn't know what the choices were, and I didn't know what they were doing. So when the confetti blew out blue confetti, that meant it's a boy. That's why everybody was hollering. But I didn't get in on the payoff because I didn't know. So I said, well, so if it had been, what, pink, it's a girl? And they said, exactly. I try to stay out of that type gatherings.

I don't like canisters blowing up and blowing confetti to show me a point. Yeah, I didn't know this was a thing. And Al, were you aware that people do this? I was. I've seen it. In fact, there's been some, it's interesting because, you know,

you do this enough, there's been some mishaps. There was one out in California. and the thing blew up and wound up starting a fire. And everybody's running every direction. I mean, it's not funny, I'm sure, for them. But, I mean, nobody got hurt. But like, so sometimes now there's been enough of these happen around the country,

Jays, that when the mishaps happen, they become the viral videos of mishap ginger. So the point was the celebration of life, though. It was. Look, I'm down with it. I was just, you know, what made me think we're in Mark where all these people are gathered. up and Jesus, he's doing things and there's a lot of people, they're uncomfortable with what's going on in the gathering, they're bewildering. He's like, what's going on?

But I literally was the what's going on. And Missy's like, you've never seen this? I was like, no. You know, why didn't they just say, it's a boy? But they're like, that's why I said, maybe it's a response. We're celebrating that, hey, you know what? It's a boy. Okay.

We can know. Yeah, I mean, I, actually. I enjoyed it. It's a good thing. But it just seemed like it was a, it's a new thing that's going on. I thought you would, you'd like to know. I mean, we ate good and I thought was there, what else is going to happen? No, it was pretty much fire off the canister, announce that it's a boy, take the pictures, do all that, have a nice meal.

And then I was like, well, what's next? And this is like, well, that's it. You ready to go? I was like, well, yeah. Were all these Christian people? Yeah. I mean, I didn't. There was a lot of, there was a lot of people there.

There were some people there. I did not know. This thing was like, it doesn't matter about believers or not because this is, people have been doing this all around the world. And it actually predates, Jayce, it's been going on for a while now. It predates some of this gender stuff. So it's just a way to, I'm like dad. It's a good thing.

It celebrates that wonders we can know. but we do know what gender is, and that also it's a celebration of life. But, you know, it's interesting, Jay. So you were doing that. I was at a dinner party down here with our old pal chef Chris, who, man, I never know what he's going to cook, but he's a chef.

And so it's always going to be delicious. And so we had New York strips and many had all these great dishes. And, you know, with a chef, the difference in them and us, because I can cook a steak, you can cook a good steak, Jay. So, I mean, we can cook some good food. But they always got that sauce, you know, that's something you pour over it that just really, really makes it sing and that's what he did.

So we're there and we're like eating appetizers. He's cooked for us and his daughters are there and all of a sudden one of them says, up, I think she said real time. It's real time. She gets an alert on her phone. And so apparently either once or twice a day, this is a new thing. Apparently it's a fad.

They were all into it, but I'd never heard of this for. So your phone gives you an alert. And within the next two minutes, you've got to hold your phone up and take a selfie of what you're doing. And it takes a picture of you and what you're doing. But then it also takes a picture of everybody else in the room. This is what the app does. So I don't know what it means, but once or twice a day, you're supposed to stop and let everybody know that's on this app what you're doing in that moment.

And I think they called it real time, but it was something. Have you heard of this? It comes off of that cell phone. You just got to remember, Al, I've never purchased a cell phone, so I may be missing out on some key areas. Yeah, where are we at with that? Are you ever going to do that? No.

No. Okay. You have vowed a life of phone celibacy. I mean, two times a day you have to get into your schedule that somebody's going to say, What are you doing? Well, I... But, Al, that's, believe it or not, now I didn't know we were having gender identification parties,

but I have heard of that. And the reason they did it from my understanding is because on all these other social media platforms, these people use filters and airbrushes and a lot of people are just, it's not even them they're they're they're putting a picture out that's not them so the idea of the social media site to do this was this is unfiltered authentic it's a they're really going off they're really going after authenticity so and if you feel yourself you film yourself from time

to time it shows that you're behaving is that what no it just shows this this is really who I am because you got to remember the problem I have a social media and the reason this this will probably be successful is because you're people are given a portrayal of themselves kind of like the Pharisees this is the image you want to portray is what you go with and so they say well in order to get around that we're going to pick a random time twice a day, this is the only time you post and you don't know when it is. And I think you have 60 seconds to do it. They're two minutes. Okay, you have two minutes to do it. Because they're going to fill, they're going to take the pictures and they're going to

post because the phone, whether you like it or not, has become a part of the physical anatomy of people's makeup. It is right beside ears, eyes, and nose. I'm not prepared to, uh, endure. something that I just I'd rather have I'd rather have quietness, tranquility and without without any fanfare. I just I just I think it's interesting now that even the world is wanting some authenticity but go ahead.

Now that's that's true. That's a great that's actually a great application. So dad, you'll love my joke. So so they looked at me and they were like, have you never heard of this? And I said, no, I had literally never heard of it. I said, no, I hadn't even heard of this. I said, but you know who loves it? and they were like, who?

And I said, my dad. And so it was like a beat. And two or three people said, really? Like, you know, they were so shocked that you would have been into this. And then somebody else just busted out laughing because I was obviously being sarcastic. But I waited a beat. I didn't give anything away. And then, of course, everybody started laughing because it's like, can you imagine Phil

twice a day stopping what he's doing to take a picture of himself and everybody in the room? I'm not prepared for that. But it made me think I sure want to ask him about it on the podcast because it's funny. At 56, maybe. But 76, no. I don't believe you. I think at 56 you'd have said, no. But it's a thing.

Maybe at 16, maybe. Yeah. I think 16 is probably a better accurate illustration. Yep. Well, so since we had two things, Jason. There's two big dinner parties. I guess it gets us back to our text in Matthew chapter two because Jesus had the big dinner party with all the sinners.

And I put that sinners in quote because really they were all sinners, but only half of the group there recognized who they were. But that's going to lead into, and the way you brought it up in the last podcast, and we talked about in overtime was the we need a scandal sermon. This is the first of three of Jesus' scandals here. The first one was that he's eating with tax caled. which was a was a no can do and a don't ever do for the for the good Jews that you know felt themselves self-righteous what which is going to lead and which is true well look when

grace when great i'll give you a profound statement when grace when grace creates a scandal in your church you may be in the wrong place i mean because that's what happened here. Now, granted, that's why I said when we read tax collectors and centers, when you think mafia, because I think that was a really good picture in your mind, if you see the supposed leader of your religious institution out there hanging out with this riff, Ralph, in a party-like atmosphere, the last thing you're going to be thinking is this is anything religious or good. And so one of the things that was missing in Judaism

and the following of these practices was grace. Another thing was missing was a relationship with God. But you know, if you're the creator of the universe... I would add, it would be one of the few places where you see people of all backgrounds that love each other. Well, yeah. Come together as a group of humanity there. That's true.

I mean, that's an excellent thought. When love being shown towards other people, if that causes a scandal in your church. You know, if a group of individuals come together like that, it turned into a scandal. The reason was they're looking around saying, well, they don't think like we do, so what are we doing with them?

I mean, it's, I mean, humanity is to bring them to, together with true love for one another is a giant step that's needed. But it's rare. I mean, look at all of what they've done to that. I mean, everything is, you're a racist if you don't do this or don't do that. You're this, you're this, you're that. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. You say, why don't we all come together and just human beings?

You know, there was a story in Luke, Phil, in Luke 189, and I think it goes into it. Hang on, Jase. Before you read that, let's take a break. I think it goes into what we're discussing, but in Luke 189, it says to some who were confident of their own righteousness. Yeah. And look down on everybody else. Jesus told this parable.

Two men went up to the temple to pray, one of Pharisee, the other tax collector. The Pharisees stood up and prayed about himself. God, I thank you that I am not. like other men, robbers, evil doers, adulterers, or even like this here tax collector. Speaking of making somebody feel uncomfortable, I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get. But the tax collector stood up at a distance.

He would not even look up to have him beat his chest and said, God have mercy on me a sinner. I tell you that this man rather than the other one, home justified for God for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled and he who humbles himself will be exalted. I mean, I just think it gives you the picture of what's going on. Poying that whatever. That's a good observation, which is one of the reasons why you don't need to be checked on twice a week to see if you're up to no good or not. Yeah. You know what's interesting because we're getting into this fasting section.

And, I mean, it's really interesting. You know, when the passage of Israel where he said, I fast twice a week, well, I look that up. And, you know, really the only time that, you know, people would fast at the most would be once a week. I mean, he threw that in twice, as in, I'm going over and beyond. what is required because I'm so righteous that.

And you remember the section when Jesus got on the sermon on the Mount, when he picked those three things that we kind of do when we give. He's like, don't be like the Pharisees who, you know, they want to have a pageantry about everything, about look how much I gave. And when you fast, they disfigure their faces and say. So, I mean, what he's going at is this is coming off a party-type atmosphere. and these are the type of people who would go to a wedding, which is a celebration,

but they're fasting. And they're like, do you want some of this prime rib? And they're like, well, no, I can't. I'm fasting because I'm better than you. I'm more religious than you. I'm even denying myself the celebration here because I'm so holy. I think that's what was going on. And the other thing,

was praying. Remember when he said, don't stand on the street corner and go on about your prayers, but your father who sees what is done in secret in both cases. That's, you know, Matthew 6. I think it's 5 or 6, chapter 5 or 6. So I'm going to read this in Mark 2, 18.

It says, no, John's disciples, and the Pharisees were fasting. Some people came and asked Jesus, well, how is it that John's disciples and the disciples of the Pharisees, are fasting, but yours or not. Jesus answered, how can the guest of the

bridegroom fast while he is with them? They cannot. So long as they have him with them. But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them, and on that day they will not fast. They will fast.

Yeah, on that day they will fast. Yeah. No one sows a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment if he does, the new piece will pull away from the old making the tear worse. And no one pours new wine into old wine skins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins in both the wine and the wine skins will be ruined.

No, he pours new wine into new wine skins. So it's an interesting analogy. And you say, what in the world is going on here? But you see two groups that have collaborated. And look, you got to remember something. I think it's a key point here. Most of us assume that John. John's disciples, John the Baptist, would automatically put their faith and trust in Jesus

because they were cousins and he prepared away. But you're seeing right here that that's not necessarily case. And it shouldn't shock you because where's that in Acts? Is it in 19 or 20 where, now this is after Jesus died and was buried and raised? And they're going around sharing Jesus. And they run up on a group of John's disciples who had never even heard of Jesus. So when you start putting it all together, you got to remember. remember that the only way they would know, because John the Baptist preached for months and months and months out in the wilderness and all these, you know, Jesus was only there on one day where he baptized him wrong.

But if you wasn't there that day, you might have just missed it. John was known, John the Baptist, because he took a Nazarite vow, you know, even before he was born. I mean, he was going to be very strict on food laws, on the idea of he'd ever drank his whole life. never took a drink because these Nazarite vows were super serious people. So he would have been, even though he was strange to the current leadership, when it came to stuff that they cared about, he was a model of, I mean, you're talking about hold the line on what they thought was important. So your point is well taken that the Pharisees would have viewed John pretty favorably

in his disciples. But they didn't conclude when he was drinking with the sinners, they did conclude that they said the religious people, he has a demon. Jesus made the point. I mean, somebody as straight-lined as him, and even then they said he has a demon, and in that one, opponent to Jesus,

he's a liar or drunkard or whatever he's going to be. Yeah, well, we're going to get that into chapter three. We're going to get into this, because which I think, even to give you a preview of what's to come, in their minds, they were kind of stuck here because they're seeing these miracles. Well, how do you answer that? And where eventually, you know, there's a quote from C.S. Lewis

that has been said over and over again through the years. And I think it's a great quote. And he gets it, in my opinion, from Mark chapter three. Because you basically form the opinion. Well, either Jesus is. is God, Lord of all, or he's a liar, or he's a lunatic. Yeah. But the problem of that logic is if you're not wanting to address him as Lord and the

son of God, which is the problem here. Yep. Well, you've got to explain how he's able to do these supernatural things. I mean, just think about it. So one of the things that come up, but they're like, well he must have a demon because then that at least gives you access to the spiritual world and that's the power supernatural yeah because he after a while you're like when he's not a magician a man at first you might to think well this is all the trick but you're looking at it's like well I mean the hand the guys we're fixed to read the guy's hand is shriveled up and then all of a sudden it's not

the dude had leprosy and then he then he doesn't the guy was paralyzed and hey he's walking around Karen is Matt, I mean, crazy people don't have that kind of power. And so they're like, well, he must be a liar. And so he's actually working. He's not after their money. He's not charged in a middle of the day. When he can't be just some dude, how is he able? So that's the narrative going on.

So that's why all of a sudden they began attacking him because it made them feel really uncomfortable. You know, the first scandal was all right, he's down there at a. at the cartel, you know, having a party and you claim to be some kind of religious, we know he's not that, because he wouldn't be running around with them. Then all of a sudden, they're like, well, you know what it is? Well, he's not fasting. So let's try to attack him on that.

Well, then what is his answer? His basic response was, why I'm here. The same as it was in chapter one. He said, the time has come. I'm here. You should be celebrating. we can't celebrate because you're running around with the rip well your friends are not welcome here which means you're not welcome here you have no pedigree you're quoting yourself not some

people that we respect and so then scandal number two comes up which is he's like he tells this illustration i love this because they're probably like what's he talking about but when you when you think about who he's talking to and what he's saying, he's like, I didn't come here to patch your little religious system. I'm not trying to put patches on that. I'm doing away with the whole thing and giving you a whole new way to go. Well, you know, what do you? Just think if you went to a church building and they want your opinion on what needs to be done,

And the guy says, okay, fire everybody and burn the building and come with me. That's the equivalent of what he just said. Everybody was saying. They're like, well, you're demon possessed. I mean, are you, you think, this old boy, it would make you mad if somebody came to your church and said, fire everybody. All the leadership, we're firing them because they're all sinners. I don't care what they're trying to portray. and we're burning the building

and we're going to go down the road and go out here and try to help the people that we should be helping cartel members, prostitutes, and how many people you think would follow them? Probably not many. I mean, Al, is that, do you agree? That may be a little over the top,

but I think that's the way they perceived it. I agree, and I got a good illustration, but first let's take a break. I agree. And what's ironic is one of the men in on this discussion today years ago. I don't know if you remember this, Dad, there was, we were going to renovate. We had to put a bunch of money into the building. It was falling in.

We either got to put money in it, bulldoze at something. And Dad, who's, you know, pretty young, elder at the time. And I wasn't an elder yet. Dad said, fellows, I'll tell you what we need to do. We just need to just, let's get out of this building. We don't need a building anyway. We'll just meet down at the Civic Center. We'll rent someplace.

He said, you know, we still need to meet. We meet in homes. We'll impact people for the kingdom. And then we won't have this collar of debt around our necks. And I just remember everybody looking at you like, that's insane. We can't get rid of our building. I mean, this is where we meet. Do you remember that, Dad?

You know, you were just looking at it totally practical. Like, yeah, we could do this. We could just walk away. And so I think the illustration is, I actually witnessed that. And the illustration is perfect because that's, exactly what he was saying. I'm not here. I'm here to introduce a whole new thing.

Don't you think it's ironic, too, that he used a wedding feast, which was about the biggest celebration they would have in the first century and wine as his two illustrations, which, by the way, just in terms of legalism, that's two things that they wouldn't be on board with either. So not only is he making a great illustration of the point, he's using the two festivity-related things, because you remember his first miracle. And John was turning water into wine at a wedding banquet. Yeah.

And again, and he even told her if my time hadn't come. One of the exceptions to the required fast was a wedding. You could, you could like get a reprieve, which I was like, this is what happens when you're basing your whole existence on a bunch of rules. Because then you could just schedule a wedding on the day of fasting so you wouldn't have to have fast. which shows you the problem with having a ritualistic type narrative for how you're basing your faith on, because you can always manipulate it. Because look, when we get to the Sabbath, which is pretty much the last paragraph,

but then it comes up again in chapter 3, well, that's what really made them mad. Because we're talking about they took the idea of the Sabbath, which when you read it in the Old Testament is you don't. don't work on this, on this day, this seventh day. That's all it says. Now, they added volumes and encyclopedias type of, because then they had a problem with trying to figure out, well, what exactly is work. And so they made all these laws and traditions based on that idea.

And so what, you see what Jesus is doing by causing. all these scandals. He's taken all these thousands of conversations and thousands of manifestos that they've come up with about on who you can associate, on how you go about fasting and pray, all these traditions and rules that we're implementing. And when it got to the Sabbath, they just went bonkers. Because, I mean, I was going to make a list of the most ridiculous and frivolous ideas that they had on what you couldn't do on the Sabbath. But look, there was so many to choose about, you know, if you raise something up, then you couldn't put it in your other hand.

You would have to raise it back down with the arm that you brought it up with. And like if you went to eat an olive on the Sabbath and the olive was bad and you spit it out, then you would have to replace something like the olive, not in its entirety, in your mouth, because that would be work to make the situation, to relieve yourself of the situation. And so they were getting into the design of what you then could put on your mouth,

in your mouth after you spit out a bad olive where it wouldn't constitute work. And it becomes a tradition. When we get, he keeps doing battle with, them and then performing all the miracles. But Isaiah was right. He said when he prophesied about you hypocrites, as it's written, these people on me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain. This is a few chapters in the future. Here we're going to go look at. Rules taught by men. You've let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of

men. You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions. You know, people who stay in a place of worship for a long time. In this case, we kind of wrestle with at least a thousand years. You give them a thousand year rain. Individuals, Al, will come up with some of the most cockamamies things you ever heard of. And things of food, what you eat, these food laws, you know.

Jesus told him, he said, you're so dull. Don't you see that nothing enters a man from the outside and make him unclean? It doesn't go into his heart, but into his stomach, then out of his body. And saying this and just think about this in lieu of what was going on there, Jesus declared all foods clean. I mean, it was hard for him to swallow. But look, it's not even just a religious thing. Rule upon rule upon root.

This is a mindset because I got three letters for you, Jason. You tell me if you agree. You see this in modern America. I've been dealing with this for the last three years down here in Gulf Shores. H-O-A. Home Owners Association. People voluntarily give other people control of what you can do with your house and your yard. It's unbelievable.

And these people, you talk about legalists, they'll take. one of these covenants for a neighborhood and they'll drive around and if your grass is one inch taller than it should be you left your trash can out you you can't do this they're sending emails they're sending fines i told lisa i was like you find us a place where we can go in the one there's one rule no hoa yeah once you get to a rule based system you get into thousands upon thousands upon thousands of situations. They ran up on me one time, and some of my neighbors said, are you going to cut this grass?

I said, the fall, fall, weather, I get it. It lay right down. And they looked at me, and I just walked up, and they were looking at me. I'm mad. I don't think you're a HOA material. Well, I documented. It'll go right down in the fall.

I said, right now that's pretty tall. Hang on, Jason. because I want you to tell the story from the show. Let's take a break first. Well, I've documented that with the show. I mean, they literally came down and, you know, when the TV people heard I had a big riff with the other people in my neighborhood over these chickens. They were like, can we film that? I'm like, sure.

And it was so embarrassing for them because these are believers. These are people in my family, you know, married in who are running the HOA. but they had so many rules, which was basically you can't have any kind of farm animal running around in your yard. But they eventually were so embarrassed by taking a look at how their views were viewed upon by people in the world saying that. They were like, okay, well, all they did was make an amendment to that.

Now you can, and they just called it organic. because you eat things that do with chicken, the eggs or the actual chicken. So then that idea trumped the idea of somebody, I guess, just being offended because you had a chicken running in your yard. Because that's what I kept saying. I was like, why does my chicken running around in my yard, how is that bothering you?

Well, it came down to, I finally got them to admit it. they just didn't like the visual of that. That didn't seem sophisticated enough. It seemed to... There was a lot of that going on here. On the episode, Jay's, they have an HOA meeting. You have this impassioned William Wallace speech about liberty and freedom. It was great.

I got it from the actual speech that I gave the original HOA. Exactly. So what I loved about the scene was that mom thought it was an eating gathering. So she brings like a, she prepared some food and she takes it in there. And, you know, that was kind of part of the joke of it. And so y'all, her dad is like, well, let's get out of here. You know, we're leaving. And mom goes back in and gets their food. She's saying, I'm not leaving my food for these people. Yeah. That was really funny. But anyway, that's what Jesus is tearing down these walls. And look, it's difficult to have this going on. for thousands of years and then you know you're not hearing from god for the 400 years and then here comes Jesus and he's just turning this whole system on its head and it's causing rage, anger, plots to kill him and I want to go ahead and get into the Sabbath part because I think it piggybacks.

So before you do that, I want to make one point before we leave the fasting. It shows you how people are because like they made an assumption. about Jesus because they weren't following their little pattern. But here's what's interesting. You know, back when we first started the book in March chapter one, he doesn't mention it, but we know it from the other gospels. Jesus fasted for 40 days and nobody knew it except for him when he went out there in the wilderness. So here's a guy you're saying, why didn't he fast, you know, like us.

And on our little one day a week, our little program we have, what they didn't know was the Son of God had already gone out in the wilderness fasted for 40 days, which is almost unheard of, and took on the devil. Yeah, well, they had them when I looked at the history of this, and it was a tradition, I think 40 was the max, but they had fast for one day, two day, three days, seven day, 21 day, and I think 40 was the, I mean, if you want to be the holy of holies, they had a 40 day fast program, which is, I think, why Jesus. did the 40 days and look and fasting is is a good thing even today I think it's a good thing where you're you know

you focus on the sacrifice that and brokenness that you're enduring but it helps you in meditation and you know on earth and provides clarity I'm not against fasting and I encourage people to do it but what they were doing was

using it, they were using this ritual, it had an emptiness about it, because they're now attaching what you're doing as far as rituals attached to who you are in your holiness or the lack thereof. So that's what's wrong with this system, because then you're always oppressing people because you're like, well, you're not as good as us. Because look at your group, how come they're not fasting? Our groups are better fasters than you are. Therefore, what?

Therefore, we are more righteous than you. At some point, the ones that are shaking their head saying what in the world is going on is a system of works. Never works. No, it don't. It don't because it does the opposite of what you said earlier. It doesn't enable you to love each other or forgive or extend grace, all the things that Jesus brought. So, I mean, Jesus is saying here, look, it's time to celebrate because I'm here. But the problem is the only people that are celebrating are the cartels and the prostitutes, these fee fishermen,

and you got a tax collector. Well, these are the, they're like, well, there must be something wrong with this. And so that's why I think, you know, people, a lot of people say, well, this, well, how does this apply today? Oh, it applies today like what we were experienced yesterday. A lot of people have been going to church their whole life, you know, where we were at yesterday, Al. Here's a bunch of people trying to get off drugs, a bunch of drunkards. It was a rough crowd. I mean, it was a rowdy, rough crowd.

They had all gathered up. They had a weekend retreat. This was kind of the cherry on top here, you know. And above all that, you've got a former gang member who's been incarcerated as the preacher. Well, I guarantee you some of these people who have been sitting in the same pew for 20 years, they probably went out there and there was somebody sitting in their pew. So they're already uncomfortable already because I'm not sure how this is going down, but I'm not sure holiness can be attained if I have to sit in a different spot

than where I've sat for the last 20 years. And all of a sudden, there are people hollering out randomly for seemingly no reason, like so loud and make you jump. And it was just really emotional. It was real passionate. You know, a couple of the songs had a rock feel to them, you know, as in this is rock music with Jesus lyrics. I don't know about that.

So, I mean, if you weren't prepared for it, it would really make you uncomfortable. It just didn't seem like, a religious type gathering. So what I'm saying is after what I'm reading here, it would be incorrect to start making judgments and assessments based on that, based on what I'm reading here. That's correct.

Because I mean... That's a great illustration. Let's take our last break. Look, Jesus people that are converted, look, they're messy. People out of the world are messy. And they don't know the rules, in quotation. or they don't know the rich they don't know because they're not they're viewing this as a building where we're all gathered but they're not viewing this as a you know as some kind of place where you need to have a certain decor they just throw that on its head but to me that's part of what you do when you're bringing people to christ

yeah i think it's a great illustration are there are there a few people going over the top and being disruptive yes is it to be expected you know take somebody's never been in the church building and all life and his life's a wreck and he gets excited about Jesus look you see all kinds of things you know they had a little bell on the on the cross and they the invitation was you go up and ring the bell what I thought was funny is the first person who goes up and there were many that were fixed to do it was so excited about it that they broke the bell well now what because that was going to be what we all do but the first person rang it so hard that they broke it and I thought this This is what happens when you get people out of the world. They're like, no, I'm not going to ring it.

I'm going to break it. So let me read this next section now. And it's quite lengthy. Yeah, I want you to read that in this last section so we can flesh it out a little bit. I feel like we need to read it because although it seems non applicable to today, I'm telling you, it's the same thing that you're seeing in these other scandals. and it's so, you know, it applies to even what we're going through today. So in verse 23, it says one Sabbath, Jesus was going through the grain fields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain.

The Pharisee said to him, look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath? Now, remember, I've already told you that all it said in the Old Testament is you don't work. You take that day off. So they've attached some amendments to this and said, you can't walk along in a field and pick some heads of grain off because that constitute work. Well, this wasn't what they normally do. These were fishermen. And you know where it's headed. They were hungry.

He answered, have you never read? Now, he didn't say that. He brings out an example in the Old Testament. I think it's 1st Samuel 21, and you can read the story. Have it you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need in the days of. Abiathar, the high priest, he entered the house of God in eighth consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priest to eat, and he also gave some to his companions. So Jesus has brought up an obscure story that they were probably aware of,

that they probably avoided, because they couldn't make sense of it, to answer the question. Then he said to him, the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the son of man is Lord, even of the Sabbath. Now look, when he said that, you're talking about a scandal. This is the worst possible thing because these people have devoted their lives to getting the rules of the Sabbath right. And for him to come up with some kind of story where these guys were hungry

and then all of a sudden he's like gave them a principle that they are totally against, which is the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Because they're operating, the Pharisees, like, man is made for the Sabbath. You have to get this absolutely 100% correct in all the details. Because they had changed the definition. You can't pick a few grand to wheat. Well, right, because that constitutes work. And that's why I said this is a thousand-year debate on what exactly is work.

And so then he even goes further, saying the son of man is Lord of even the same. Sabbath. So now he's saying I have the authority. I invented this. I control what you're trying to figure out on what doing right. I'm, I control that. It's my idea. This is not going to end well for him. But interesting, Jay's, he gives his human distinction, the son of man. He didn't say, so the son of God is Lord even of the Sabbath. He used his human on earth description to say, I'm still Lord. Well, I think he's using that, in my opinion, because he's going back to that Daniel reference that they were familiar of.

This is, I'm here. Every story that we're reading has this theme of, I'm here. This was predicted. The king is coming. The eternal kingdom is going to be established. I'm here. Because he just said to bridegrooms here. Now he's like, the son of man here.

So it's an obvious reference to me, that's why I said in that illustration that I always used when I'm speaking to nine Christians. I always start, I hold up the Bible and I say, Genesis to Malachi, Jesus is coming. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Jesus is here. Because that was his emphasis here. I'm here. The time has come.

Son of God is here. Acts of Revelation. I'm coming back. What about a physician? Are we not going to heal somebody on the Sabbath? What if he dies? And so they actually, in some of their subordinate laws, made an allocation to where, I'll tell you what, if a guy's bleeding to death,

it's okay to put something over the gushing way. But that's it. So basically you're like, in your rules, we're going to give him a shot at survival because we all know he's going to bleed to death. We need to figure out what we need to do for this guy. So it came into this. Can you help others? They're like, no, you can't help people because that'd be worse.

so Jesus they can't say he's a doctor because he's actually not doing anything where was the question the thing about getting his donkey out of the ditch I mean yeah that's a good one to read so let me finish reading it so so then he said they were silent he looked around at them in anger and look by the way this is the only time in the New Testament

it ever says Jesus got angry that's right there's other instances where he you know and he went in the temple and he cleared it out because they were keeping people from going inside and turned it into a money deal. But this time it says, all right, he's hot. He looked around them in anger and deeply distressed at their stubborn hearts and said to the man, stretch out your hand.

He stretched it out, and his hand was completely restored. Now, you would think there would be some positive moment here. He gave the speech, they don't have an answer because either way, they're going to be hypocritical in what they say because the bottom line is Jesus is way ahead of them I would have said, I would have concluded okay, sorry, I'm with you.

I would have thought you're the son of God evidently and you did come up with the Sabbath I'm sorry, I got you wrong while I go up. The next verse says the Pharisees went out and began to plot with the Herodians which is a group that they detest had nothing in common with. They're not even a religious group.

They're a political, you know, group who are being used because they knew if the only way we're going to be able to kill Jesus is we're going to have some kind of political group who has the power and authority to do it. So they go out and are buddy, buddy with the Herodians who, guess what? They ain't keeping the Sabbath. The Herodians are not. Not only that, they were known for their corrupt sexual behavior and dishonest gain methods. So now you're throwing in cahoots with people who doesn't have a moral fiber in their being. And why are you throwing in cahoots with them so that they might kill Jesus? Yep.

All right. Let me stop you right. Let me stop right there. We're out of time. Man, that's rich. But we're going to unpack some of that in our overtime segment. So if you want to follow us over there and hear a little bit more about this, blaishty.com slash unashamed is where we'll talk about that.

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