Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 567 | Jase Attends a Secret Party & Will There Be Hurricanes in Heaven?

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

Phil discusses the problems with hurricanes and fire and why they might still be in heaven. Al jokes about Jase's exclusive frog hunt and how Zach and Al might not make the list for the feast. Jase tells a story about being invited to a secret party, for which there was no specified location! Al reads about the Bible story in which a man was a complete human wreck, and Phil tells a shocking story about how a girl who was suffering from a horrible affliction helped his own faith! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, welcome back to Unashamed. I am now. I have relocated. I'm kind of like Johnny Cash, dad. I've been everywhere, man. I never did listen to Johnny too much. Oh, Johnny Cash is good. I like him. One of the best. Well, I listened to Ring of Fire a thousand times because our little one, that song resonated. But he's, he's moving. moved on now. We're staying alive now. B.G.'s. Well, I made a duck hole this year, maybe to his credit then, because I named it the Ring of Fire. Really?

Yeah, not from the Johnny Cass song, from Firepower in the bushes and a new duck hole in another part of the woods. And I like that name for a duck hole. That is a good name, the Ring of Fire. The Ring of Fire, so that's what we call it. I'm in on that. I didn't. It was all woods. Why was I not a part of the name calling session? Well.

Or the name naming. You just were the ones that you were the head man going in to purchase this property. It was a former hunting club. We now own it. Well, let's just make a rule. If money goes from my wallet to your hand to whoever owns the land, I should automatically have a seat at the name. name naming ceremony.

There's just three-eth table. Willie, you and me. But it's it. And I said, boys, just put it in your name. I'll pay the third of the property. I know. I get that part. I just want to name.

I mean, that's a great name. Yeah. The Ring of Fire. Ring of Fire. So they didn't need you, Jays. They came up with that name without you. You need to be out of all names things. We had to have some kind of wordage to say, let's go over there.

Yeah, let's go over there. We'll hunt the ring of fire this morning. Everybody looks around like, whoa, what's that? But you'll know. I think it's a bold move to name a place the ring of fire, and it's never been hunted. I mean, that's a pretty bold. You're just hoping it's a ring of fire. I put my 50 years of chasing ducks into action, and so we bought the property,

and the food regime is great. It's all kind of vegetation out there now. big overcup acin trees spaced out willow oaks and you look down through there it'll literally take your breath you're like wow so if the duck doesn't come in to this spot then you'll have to change it from the ring of fire to the ring of reflection the ring of misery the ring of the ring of dry fire great licking duck blind great there we go right licking spot but no ducks. Al's got it. We'll change it to the ring of dry fire. Yeah. The ring of dry fire. We don't know how good the hole is until we get, I've arranged it where now we can flood it,

which we never had that capability, so I can flood it. The gates are down, they're shut, and I put about this much water all we need, four to 12 inches. And when that gets there, we will observe, sneak around and observe, and when you start seeing ducks pile in there, you say, the ring of fire is taking on new meaning. Ring of fire. Well, I'll tell you, if that happens, I'm going to get out my device that you detest.

And I'm, because I can do that, I can take my phone out and pull up that Johnny Cash song while we're in the woods. You've got to remember, this is a computer-free zone. No, I'm doing it. If we hammer the ducks there. I didn't look at my computer and say, what shall I do with this real estate? I just looked around 50 years of chasing ducks, and I said, here's what we're going to do right there.

It's one song. You've got to have a walk-up song. Even baseball players, they have a walk-up song. So if this whole produces the first time we whack a bunch, you're going to be sitting there and we're talking about how they came in. This bunch is for Johnny Cash. Then all of a sudden, you're going to hear this sound. that's a good song it is everybody

needs a theme song everybody needs a theme song right now we're still on the beejs with our little one that's staying with us because he's in that screaming stage but he's not crying he realized that a voice can project you have to train dogs not to do that as you will I like kids to do it it's a sign they're alive and happy He'll just...

By the way, Jason, I saw a picture in my bedroom, and the picture was, you had written a note with a heart, you know, a Halloween, not a Halloween, or what he called it? Valentine's. Valentine's Day. I looked at it, and you caught a shot of old blue. That lab, he's still alive, but he's old. But you had a shot of him licking the side of your face,

big old tongue, just... And you had... Well, I didn't... If I was in the picture, that means I didn't take it. That's right. Somebody else took it. And I probably what happened, because me and that dog didn't like each other. Yeah.

But then at some point, he started liking me. Yep. And so maybe that was somebody caught that. That sounds like a... He peed on your bag every time he got to... No, that's Si. He peed on size. Yeah, but he peed on size every time.

He didn't like Cy. He peed on his hunting boot. I mean, he's a snail bag. He actually peed on his... He peed on him. He would circle around him from the back end. Catch him not looking. And Si would say,

Get good grief, what are you? You scound, you know. No, I think I remember that picture. Dane Burley Jennings took that. Oh, is that right? And he asked me to sign it, and they gave it, I think he gave that to you as a present. He's bringing two of blues offspring with him.

So we're going to see if we can get another blue. without the whining. Yeah, that's exciting. If that dog winds, I'm out. So it's exciting, Tom. No, it's exciting. The fall is my favorite time of year. You got football, you got hunting season, obviously,

and just the weather's overall better. But look, so I'm going to pull a stunt tonight. So, because we're getting off into October here, and usually, you know, I have to say goodbye to one of my favorite times of the year, which is frog hunting. But I'm actually going frog hunting tonight, and here's why. I'm going with a buddy of mine. So I let my dog out last night, middle of the night, probably midnight, I guess.

And it's cool last night. I had a spotlight, and I thought, I'm going to ease down this pond because it's warm during the day, but it's nice. Very low humidity. I mean, this is not normal weather for here. It's awesome. But I said, I wonder if the frogs are still out. because it's really warm during the day. You had already asked me that, and what did I take?

You said, I think they are. Well, guess what? You are right. So I start panning the pond around, and there's a big pine tree that fell during the last storm across the pond, and one of the limbs, I looked on the edge of it, and it was the biggest bullfrog you've ever seen in your life. You've got to take him out, Jay's.

No, I'm going to leave him, but I'm going to go. to, I've got access to the greatest frog catching place in North Louisiana. My buddy of mine owns it. And so I sent him a text and I told him the story and he said, come on. So we're going to send off. We're going to transition into the hunting with guns, ducks, deer, squirrels. We're going to go from the frogs hunting with your hand. I'm going to do one last hurrah tonight.

So I'll give you a report a couple podcasts from now on how that went. I'd rather get a report about when you're going to be cooking those. I might need to stop by and visit the baby. Well, he wants the meal. He's not worried about the feet. Hold off until November 14th because your cousin's coming in town. You can invite me over. Well, the list is long.

of people who want that information, but you got to remember there's some things in life that are classified, classified information, invitation only. So I'll let you know, maybe, if you're on the list. So in other words, Zach, don't be waiting by the phone. It's not going to happen. It reminds me, Al, when we went to the inauguration, you know, and we got invited to a party that wasn't a party. And there was a list that was actually no list.

And I had the strangest conversation, a 20-minute conversation in a hotel lobby with a group of individuals who we were discussing us, our family being invited to the inauguration party that didn't exist. Who was being inaugurated? Trump.

Donald Trump. Yeah. And so I said, you know, Willie, it was Willie and Corey. And I think it was just me and Missy and Willie and Corey. Yep. And so I said, I wasn't on the list. Zach and I were on the list. Where do we go?

Where's this party? I think that's what I asked because they had a liaison from the new presidential team or whatever. And they said, well, it doesn't exist. And I said, well, if it doesn't exist, it's like every question I would ask, they would answer it with a question. And so finally, I was like, are you kidding? Are you serious? And they're like, no, show up at this hotel at 2 o'clock in the morning. And somebody will be told where to go from there.

The party started at 2 o'clock. and we went. And so we got there and surprisingly there was a few hundred people that I guess there was no list there was no place designated. You just walked on the side of the picking order. No, and you finally went,

you found yourself there after you went through a lot of security. It sounds like a rave. Yeah, it was like that. Sure. You should. So it was us. And I had a bodyguard, actually, at that time.

So that's an interesting thing that happened in my life that I will never forget. So there's no record of it. Don't you find that interesting? It's interesting. Yeah. But I think it was mainly because they didn't want a ton of people there. And so the family, the Trump family, came out, you know. And they didn't want to offend.

people. You don't want to offend anybody. Hey, what happened? Yeah, they brought that up because if you didn't get invited, but we got invited, so, you know, it was cool. Well, if it was two in the morning, I'm glad I didn't get invited. How did you stay awake? Because you're a night person anyway.

I'm a night person, yeah. Yeah. You're like, mom. Mom's like that. Does she still stay up late at night, Dan? Like she always used to do. Every night. 12, 1 o'clock.

That's where I get it. But unlike Ms. Kay, I go to bed late and get up early. Yeah. She goes to bed late and gets up late. But I take a nap every day. Sometimes it's only 20 minutes, but I savor that 20 minutes. All I found out in my 76 years on the earth, Jase, and you'll find this out as the time passes,

that when God made a woman, he made a very strange creature. Boy, the insights this morning are... You're going to find that out. I'm just giving you heads up before it gets there. Don't forget that one. I'll remember that. Thank you, Phil. Another misogyny moment, Phil.

So, let's take a break. You get them figured out, then you get back to touch with me. That's my deal. I think that was God. Strange creature is not bad. It's not negative. They're just strange creatures, women. Yeah.

It might be that you just, you may have an issue that, you know, I look around and it's kind of like that guy was talking to you, he'd been married like seven times, you know, and I was like, have you ever considered that it might be you? Because he had a similar view towards women. And he's like, just looking around like. That is, it's within the realm of possibility. Because they could be normal and you could be strange. And I'm the most normal person so normal that I seem abnormal when you meet me. Yeah.

I think this has been a great intervention in counseling session. My dad always tells that story. He says, Phil, they were standing somewhere, and Phil said, Dash talked about my dad. You are one odd-looking dude. And my dad's line always. So we're walking at an airport, and people look at me and they look at you. and I'm the one they look at and say that's an odd looking dude.

Exactly. He'll say, yeah, they got to look about him. They've got to look about him. Yeah. Well, we're in the book of Mark, as you know, we've been studying it. And I think on the last podcast, Jase, we talked about the healing of the wild man in the tombs, the guy that was living in the in the graveyard and um it really was a i don't know my notes i entitled at the restoration of a human wreck because we talked about this before with this guy

he had so many demons living in him i mean he had no chance for any kind of life i mean he was isolated he was crazy he was crazy in his mind but he was also cutting himself with rocks and stones they tried to bind him down they couldn't do it And I've thought about before because we're going to get into today is a couple of like really strong faith situations. People coming to Jesus for healing. But I didn't really realize it until I was looking ahead when you look back. You know, this guy, he shows no faith because he was possessed by demon. I mean, he's just out there living like a wild man.

And yet Jesus went to him. Jesus saw him in his situation and decided to cast these demons out. So it was kind of funny because we always, we've been talking to us about miracles and how level of faith and people say, well, they didn't have enough faith. And if you had more faith, then you would be able to see or accept this miracle or whatever. But this guy had zero faith. He was almost a bystander to the situation because he was possessed by all these demons. Why are you there? And yet he was restored.

Why, yeah. When Peter was telling the story in the book of Acts after Jesus died, was buried. and raised from the dead, and he went back into heaven. God anointed Jesus of an Adler. Now listen to this, with the Holy Spirit. This ought to get tickled Jace a little bit. And how he went around doing good, all these miracles and things, and telling all who were under the power of the devil because God was with him.

We're witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him from the dead on the third day. and caused him to be seen. Now listen to this. He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen by us who are, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.

And he commanded us to preach to the people and testify. But how do you wrap your head around the fact that all this was almost like what he was going to do was prearranged from the beginning of time, these texts say, but he said, but not everybody got to look at him even, but it was the ones who were closest to him. How do you, how does that square with Mark chapter three, chapter four, all these events that are happening. He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. Yeah, what that's my point is even that kind of you're right now that ties in with this person

because Jesus chose him to display the miraculous power of God. It's like the guy in John 9, you know, he's just sitting there, he's blind and the disciples looked over at him and they were like, who's sin that this man will be born blind? we can't figure, you know, was it him, was it, his parents? He said it was neither. This man was born blind so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. And then he went over and made the little mud packs and put it on his eyes and he healed him.

But the guy never asked to be healed. I mean, God chose him. See what I'm saying? So I think, I think that's, I don't know if that's exactly answer your question, but I think people are chosen by the Almighty to display greatness and who he is. and this man that had the demon cast out. Remember, he was going around first to his family, but then he went around to 10 cities.

And really, in essence, became the first missionary, because this was even before the disciples were sent out. This guy was sent out just to display what had been done in his life. So it's almost like some are chosen specifically for that purpose. It's just like pre-health care and pre-hospitals, pre, a lot of misery going on. But this was before, healing was just, I mean, just a, you were lucky if you ran up on Jesus.

You know, you know what I'm saying? I mean, there weren't, there was not a whole lot of medicine and a lot of misery at this time frame. Well, there definitely would have been way more of this kind of stuff going, and not just the demon possession, but you're right. I'm way more maladies and illnesses and, you know, because you're right. I wonder what the life expectancy was in the first century. It was probably, you know, 40 years old. Yeah. You just, you didn't live law.

Yeah. Or less. That's exactly right. So, yeah, which, which again may have been back to what something Jay said in the last podcast, the timing of when Jesus came mattered so much. Jesus trumped. He came at a time. Yeah, he ended up trumping all that is involved in health care.

I mean, he was. was the ultimate healer, bar none. You know what I'm saying? Right. And also, but he said that he came to display God, so to show his power. He didn't necessarily come just to stamp out all disease. We know that. Or to stamp out poverty because people say, well, you know,

he said the poor you'll always have with you. I mean, it's not like he was pro poverty, but I mean, that wasn't this purpose. Just the way it is. to come to display eternal life, exactly. So I just thought that was interesting. All of his healings and all the acts that Jesus are just doing here, I think if you get off on the actual miracle,

and that's what you're primarily focused on. You're missing that these miracles are reflections of his greater glory. These are reflections of him and his presence and his eminence that he's here. He's with us. he's active, he cares. You know, you see the attributes of God. That's what Paul says in Romans 1, too. These attributes of God, his divine qualities, his divine nature, and these are things

have been clearly perceived by what's been made. Well, this is even like a further, more specific version of God's revelation. I mean, it's very specific. I mean, he's doing things here. And I love this story of the casting out of the demons, because this came right off the back of him, exerting tremendous authority when he commands the winds and the ways to stop. Like, that's an act of authority, which is one of God's attributes, his sovereignty.

And so here he's again, even even if God in flesh is exercising his divine sovereignty and authority when he's now showing that he has authority not just over the winds and the waves, he has authority over the spiritual realm as well, that he can command demons. He said he appointed him, Jesus, as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him. This is in Acts chapter 10. All the prophets testified about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name. I mean, the big picture was their sins were being forgiven as they were being healed,

which you just want to say, wow. Yeah, because the name of Jesus is, even like that, you know, when Jesus said anything you ask in my name you'll receive, I mean, he's, he's not talking about like a Mercedes-Benz. He says anything you ask in my name. And to unpack what that means to ask something in the name of Jesus, it's not simply just to tag his name on to end to something that you want. It's you're asking for something that's within his authority, dominion, sovereign will for your life. And so I think there's a big, big picture unfolding here in the Gospel of Mark that's different than some of the others because the emphasis here is on Jesus, as Jason is pointed out at the beginning of this series. It's an emphasis on that Jesus is the son of God with a capital G. He is the son of God.

Life and immortality came with him, which you talk about everything that's stake. All these stories, you say life and immortality is on the line here, and he conquered both. You just look at it. Well, when he said the time, look, don't negate the fact, too, he said the time has come. And, I mean, he's laying out a process, because I'm a big process guy, you know, whether it's football or, any kind of adventure. You have to love the process and not, you know, focus on the results here. Because, I mean, you know, when we get to the next chapter, things are not going to go real well here.

I mean, your main two, your main two voices, Jesus, who's doing all these miracles, and John the Baptist, who prepared away, well, Jesus is, he's mocked in his hometown. He's laying out, I'm indestructible, and I'm going to prove it. Well, he is, but the people, he's having to go through a process because people are not embracing this. I mean, sure, the people being healed are and the people that are being redeemed. They're still saying, steal them, killing. But they're just coming for more cures and not necessarily a transformation of a spiritual character. That's it.

you know, adjustment. That's why when he starts off, it's saying repent for the kingdom as near. Well, people, they're like, well, just heal me and forget the repentance. Yeah. Hang on, Jayce.

Hey, hang on, let's take a break. All right, go ahead. So when you, you know, I'm going to push back a little bit because I think he did have some faith in that when he got out of the boat, when Jesus got out of the boat, comes to meet him.

And I do think Jesus knew what was in a man. Now, whatever that means as far as him being the son of God and him being the son of man and him becoming a man. But there's several times where it would say he knew what they were thinking. He was a mind reader. Well, so I'm saying when y'all talk about, I mean, I think a lot of this was a process that God set forth in a plan. So you have that going because he's like, don't tell everybody.

Of course, one, we know he was concealing that from the rulers and the authorities so that they would eventually crucify Jesus and ultimately would be their demise in his victory. But also, it was just hard for human beings to wrap their minds around God in a human form, actually in this being true. That's why, look, when we get to Mark chapter 6, I mean, there's been more sermons over that first paragraph because it's people who were familiar with Jesus. They were so familiar they didn't believe. You know, he goes back to his hometown.

They've already said he's crazy. He goes back there. Which is it? Is it hard to believe in him? Jesus are easy to believe in him. That would be the question. It didn't seem to be to come easy. Well, it depends on your situation, I guess.

it was a little easier for a guy who's chained up to a tombstone and is ravaged with demons, I think it was a little easier. I think the lower you are, which is why God allows, you know, hurricanes and allows misery to happen on earth is because really you're reminded in these valleys, these wilderness, difficult moments, the need for a God. So which is why we had this. That's a good point, too, because in the past, we didn't have, you know, if you think about, you know, 150 years ago, you didn't have the advancement of modern science to hide behind. And so people are much more reliant on God because, like, they were literally, if a storm came and the crop was ruined, they may not eat for the winter.

And so, but now we're hiding behind our technological advances and we're under the illusion. And it is an illusion that somehow we're going to, you know, ultimately tame this thing. But ultimately, we're not. Even these people, every single person that Jesus healed, in the end, guess what happened to him? They died. They're not here anymore. I told your dad the other day, we were putting a book together. And I said, my view of it is the only place you're ever going to be where there are no more hurricanes and no more fires and no more death and no more misery is heaven itself.

heaven is the goal and that's when it finally end the misery yeah but i think but i would say well i just want to push back real quick i think no more death sure no more misery sure but the actually hurricanes and fire would not be a problem if we were imperishable you know which is my point well i know i'm saying you could have a hurricane in heaven if you were in imperishable because I actually would like to ride in the middle of one of those post-reservation. It would be a perfect time to serve. You might get into serving if you were imperishable. I actually have a plan for a hurricane experience.

I'm just going to wait until I get my imperishable. But you agree. Misery leaves when you get invincibility. I agree with those two. I'm not going to be miserable. Well, I mean, a lot of people say, oh, this, you know, this hernia. The hurricane's evil, and it's like, no, it's the problem with the hurricane is that we're perishable. Yeah.

But you have to have fire because we got to fry a fish. Exactly. Fire is good for a lot of things. And storms actually help the, you know, if you never had a front, we never would shoot any ducks because it actually moves the ducks. But go ahead, Zay. Now, I was, I think this matters because when you, when you think about what Jesus is doing through these incredible happenings here, and there's a lot of them in the gospel of Mark and all the Gospels for that matter. He's not establishing his authority here simply to like invoke this, like we've said this over and over again,

this political kingdom, power kingdom is actually he's establishing his credibility in his authority through these miracles so that he would then walk in humility the Hill of Calvary. So I mean, that's that's the craziness of this whole thing that you're, you have these, this divine authority, like this guy, the same guy that's literally telling the wind and the waves to stop, the same guy that's putting mud on people's eyes and they can see, the same guy that says, pick up your mat and walk, the same guy that could go up to a demon-possessed man and say, get out of this man, and they send him into pigs and the pigs running. You're presenting, he didn't get there like what he was dealing with.

He's not a priest, not on the basis of a regulation, other priests got to go. human being as to his ancestry, but he got to where he is on the basis, and Mark's covering it, the basis of the power of an indestructible life. That's how he got where he is. No men, no more high priest needed. He said, no, just one time he'd been here. God himself is our high priest. Yeah, so when you get the picture, there's a song we sing a Sunday at church called behold our God and it's like who sits upon his throne come with us like adore him and we're and it's got this picture of God's bigness yeah and ask these questions like you know who else like I don't I can't remember all the words but who else spoke the world into existence who calls the

season it's really hard for a human being to wrap his head around that uh Zach if you oh it's it you know it's you can't you can't wrap your head around it but you can like I always say you can you can touch the hem of his garment right you can just kind of touch the peripheal of it But you can never exhaust this bigness of who he is. But then I love this song because the last verse is who else had the nails in their hand. So we're talking about this God who is big, authority, sovereignty, like just think about power, indestructible, all of those adjectives. Just throw everyone, marvelous, majestic, omniscient, omnipotent, just anything big, just throw in the mix. Yeah.

And then think that God walked in humility. on a road with a cross on his back and let the people that he spoke into existence spit on him, whip him. He heads up to the hill and he ultimately let us kill him. And it's like, whoa, you can't understand, you can only understand the depth of God's love if you understand the height of the sovereignty and his bigness. You can only understand the power of the cross to the extent that you can see the bigness of God because there's a distance that he traveled to do that.

So I think we're seeing morsels of that in the beginning of the Gospel of Mark. It's an establishment of authority of Christ so that we can see at the end that he's going to walk a road of suffering and humility. Well, it is an honor to read these texts. Hang on, hang on, Dad. Let's take a break. I consider it an honor. I consider it an honor to even just read about it. It's what you say, Al.

Absolutely. And Jay's made the point, I think that was really good, and Zach made it too, that I think this is the biggest difference in humanism versus God. Because you're called a climate denier. If you're not running around with your head on fire, worried about the atmosphere, the planet, the storm, the intensity of the storms. And I'm saying, no, I'm really not a climate denier. I mean, I totally affirm we have a climate and it changes. but I'm a God affirmer. That's what I am.

And so the storms were here for we got here. And so before human being, so the difference is these people, and Zach, you're right, it's a false, it's a false narrative. They think they're in charge. And so because of us, we've intensified the storms and we can fix them and we can make them whether or not it's intense. You talk about a dog chasing his tail. You're going to run around circles a long time trying to fix the plant. that that God made.

Which is what was happening here with this demon-possessed man. I was reading this verse 15, Phil, and I thought about in Mark 5, and it says the man, it says the first 14, the herdsman ran away and reported in the city and in the country, and the people came to see what it was that had happened. You know, what it happened was, and this is what happened. They came to Jesus and they observed the man who had been demon-possess. possessed, sitting down, clothed, and in his right mind, the very man who had had the Legion, and they became frightened.

I was thinking about that story that you told before where you were in the rehab with the woman, and she, you remember the story where, I can't remember exactly what happened, but she. Yeah, he told that in the last overtime. Yeah, so where she's gargling meat and, you said it's talking she was gargling meat. And, and she's out of her mind. and she's cussing at you. It reminds me of this guy. And then when you said to her something to the effect of that she was under the control of the devil

and that she didn't know Jesus, I forgot the whole story because I wasn't in the overtime segment on the last one. But like she came back in after that. And she slammed her head on the table in front of it like this, down. And projectile vomiting took place. She runs away. 15 minutes she walks back in. And she went from cursing us and cursing God.

She just had in a little meek voice. She said, can y'all help me? And I said, we can help you, girl. I took the approach since you weren't in overtime that maybe she was just drunk. That was all. So all she needed was Jesus and a good vomit. No, she was in the rehab. She was in the rehab.

She was in a rehab like she had been in a full detox facility for some time. just because these people are in rehab doesn't mean they're not using anymore. This was beyond drunk. This was, if you'd seen it, it was beyond drunk, that's for sure. Yeah. Well, I'm not denying it, but to me it's not the issue that, I mean, the issue is Jesus has the authority and power of that. The demons, they all know who Jesus is. It is linked to the sinful world, the evil world, but we're all sinners, you know.

And I think they manifest. following day when I baptized her and I mentioned her I said who's going to be the Lord of your life from this point on and she confessed Jesus is Lord but she was the most meek, gentle, caring little woman. She's probably 20 years old but she she went from a hellacious. Yeah, that's my point. I mean, there's a she's a kind of a visceral example of the of a a person and what it looks like to be under the control. I tell you that. Yeah, I mean, Jesus brings rest, right?

He brings like, you know, we've all, I mean, our own lives. I mean, think about where you were. Yeah. When we were under the control of the evil one, it is a restlessness. It's a, it's an aimless beating at the wind. And what God brings in his sovereignty and in his healing and in his authority and in his humility, what he brings, he brings, he brings, context. He brings

healing. He brings touch. He brings intimacy, rest, peace of mind. I think I've seen this over and over again not only in my own life, but others' lives. So I think it speaks to what God's ultimate purpose here is it's not just to go around and perform miracles for the sake

of performing miracles. He has a grand picture in mind. He has an overarching goal that he's working towards here that will see accomplished at the cross and ultimately. the resurrection. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

There's a plan here, and there was some timing involved, because, you know, when he goes to his hometown in Mark 3, his family says he's crazy. The leaders say he has a demon. But he goes back there three chapters later, and, of course, they're still not having it. But when you fast forward and look at the end, like at Acts 114, well, his family,

They were gathered around in prayer post-resurrection, and most of them gave their life, you know, for Jesus eventually. He won them over. Well, right. There was a process that had to happen. He's planting seas because most people, if you go to a town and they say, you know, your close people say, you're crazy. And they'll say, you have evil spirit. Most of us are not going back to that town. We're like, we're done with that.

And so I was bringing this up about the time. timing and the way God uses people who put their faith and trust in them. We always are looking just at the conversion. But to me, the most powerful passage is 18 and 19 of this story, which is going to lead to these next two stories. When he was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon possessed begged to go with him. I mean, look, this goes against everything most religious people are going to say.

They're like, well, come on. pick him up. What a story that he's, this guy's going to be a great leader. And Jesus says, no. You go back to your house. Because in God's plan, in God's world, this, he's going to use people who have been transformed by him

and by his power to help other people. And so he's got a job for him. And guess where it is, which I think it should be all of our first mission field, is back to his house. And so he goes back there. Go tell your wife and children. To me, this is encouraging to me, because I'm like, everybody's plan is not the same. Everybody's conversion is not the same.

Sure, we all are drawn by Jesus. That is the same. We all get the power of the Holy Spirit. That is the same. But some people are not going to vomit. Some people are not going to have a big testimony. Some people are just not even going to be mentioned. And then all of a sudden, they're in a room praying with the other father.

followers a couple books later. Well, something happened, but it's not recorded. We don't, and I think you see that when you get to, when you get to March 6, I keep bringing this up because a lot of people were so familiar with Jesus is that they didn't recognize him in the Son of God, but that really hits home in churches. Kids that are raised in church failed to be wowed by Jesus because they've heard it the whole time. They're like, oh, yeah, I know that. Yeah.

And you're like, well, why is your life not showing that you know that? Because it's not. But the familiarity with it is actually the blocker. It's not an evil spirit. It's not. So, I mean, the evil one works in different ways, but so does God. So I wanted to at least introduce the next two stories. Can we do that?

Hang on. Yeah, before we do that, let's take our last break. So then, if you were going to have a movie, Zach, you're in the movie making business. Here's the next, this is a movie, this next happening. Because when you look at it and you realize that we're all in different places in life and in different generations through time. But we all, from God's providence and His draw through Jesus,

we come together at the feet. of Jesus on a cross from various backgrounds. Yep. And here, so he just picks two people, but notice the similarities. So when Jesus, this is verse 21 of chapter 5, had again crossed over by boat

to the other side of the lake. Large crowd is here. Then one of the synagogue rulers named Jerias came there. See in Jesus, he felt at his first. feet and pleaded earnestly with him. My little daughter is dying. Please come, put your hands on her so that she will be healed and live.

So Jesus went with him. So now we have a story within a story, because I mean, this guy is panicking. A large crowd followed and pressed around him. And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for 12 years. So now we have another story, and it's in the context of this juror saying, come on, come on, hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry. But you imagine the frustration there if your daughter is dying, your 12-year-old daughter is dying, and you think you have the cure.

But we can't, traffic is, but this is the equivalent of five o'clock traffic, but it's people since they didn't have vehicles. And so this woman in 26, she had suffered a great deal under the cure of many doctors. and had spent all she had trying to get better because you brought that up about, you know, the hospital system wasn't what it is now. Yet instead of getting better, she actually grew worse. When she heard about Jesus, she came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak because she thought, if I just touch his clothes, I'll be healed.

immediately the bleeding stopped and she felt in her body that she was freed from her suffering and once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him he turned around into the crowd and said who touched my clothes you see the people crowding against you his disciples answered and yet you can ask who touched me so i mean there was a lot of people it was just crammed but Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it. Now, I think he knew who did it. We're making the moment here. Then the woman, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell at his feet and tremor with fear, told him the whole truth.

Another translation said her whole story, which the reason I bring that up, because Jerus is like, I mean, can you imagine a woman telling her whole story? I mean, it's like... Imagine Miss Kay. Yeah. Imagine Miss Kay telling you her whole story, her whole life story. While Gerius is over here saying, what about my daughter? So he's frustrated. He's not participating in this joy because he's frustrating.

So while Jesus was speaking, some men came from the House of Jerias. The synagogue ruler said, your daughter is dead. Oh, hang on. I skipped. I skipped apart. So when in 34 it says he said to her daughter, your faith has healed you, go in peace and be freed from your suffering. While Jesus was still speaking, some men came to the house of Jerias,

synagogue ruler. Your daughter is dead, they said. Why bother the teacher anymore? Now, can you imagine Jerias now? So ignoring what they said, Jesus told the synagogue ruler, Don't be afraid. Just believe. He did not let anyone follow him except Peter, James, and John, the brother of James,

which is kind of interesting. When they came to the home of the synagogue ruler, Jesus saw a commotion with people crying and wailing and wailing loudly. He went in and said to them, while this commotion and wailing, this child is not dead, but asleep. But they laughed at him, which is really interesting. I mean, if you can change your wailing to laughing that quickly, you probably wouldn't being very sincere, in my opinion.

After he put them all out. So there's a sermon in here, you know, because he said, get out. And, of course, then he's going to say, get up. How are you writing us down? He took the child's father and mother and the disciples who were with him and went in when the child was, he took her by the hand and said, I'll let someone else pronounce that, which means little girl, I say to you, get up. Immediately the girl stood up and walked around.

She was, uh-oh, 12 years old. At this, they were astonished. He gave strict orders not to let anyone know about this and told them to give her something to eat. Now, the reason I said, this is a lot of the life is about intersections and God's timing and God using other people to bring Jesus. Because look, you're now back to your movie making, Zach. We have a hospital scene. And we have a woman walking out who had just been diagnosed with some weird blood disease. Of course, it was a bad diagnosis because she got worse.

Meanwhile, here comes a couple out of the hospital who just had. a baby because the girl was 12 years old this woman was had this issue for 12 years do you think that's an accident that he's telling this story at the same time so two people one at one time they're coming out of the hospital with two totally different attitudes but now here they come together in life in a day in one day coming together at Jesus's feet with different issues, but you have the same thing happening. And I do believe the number 12, which has been a symbol throughout the whole Bible, you know, of completeness and whole or whatever, has something to do with it too. But, I mean, this is an amazing two stories.

So what say you? I say we're out of time, but that's the perfect buildup to tease our overtime sense. segment to talk some more about this because I was I was taking some notes jays as you were reading that story because there's a lot of really interesting things so we're going to dive a little more into that on the other side of blazed tv.com slash unashamed if you want to follow us over for an extra 15 minutes of conversation about this story and other musings and we'll see you next time thanks for listening to the unashamed podcast help us out by rating us on iTunes and don't miss an episode by subscribing

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