Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 569 | Phil and Miss Kay Answer Listener Questions & Teenage Rules for Fatherly Friendship

Episode Date: October 23, 2022

Phil is joined in the studio by Miss Kay and Al and Lisa Robertson to respond to "Unashamed" audience questions. Miss Kay talks about Willie's early childhood business endeavors, advice on raising children, and what it's like to be in a big, loving family. Phil gives advice on raising teens without too many rules and how to implement faith in your marriage for a lifelong friendship. Miss Kay reflects on the past, how she followed her grandmother's advice to trust God with her marriage, and how she held on for the good ending. And Al discusses the courage that God will give you to openly use your mistakes to bless other people's lives if you will just be patient and endure hardships. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, Mom, we're back. We're unashamed. You're back. I know. How do you feel? You feel smarter when you come in this room? I do. I really do. Because, you know, I have some trouble with word pronunciation, but obviously, my fans don't care. Well, we found out that Jace can't use any words bigger. than would fit in a scrabble board, which is seven letters. So if he gets past seven letters, then he says he's in trouble.

He doesn't understand it. Well, I didn't know we had that in common. That's scary. I've always said that's why you and Jason don't get along is because y'all are so much alike. Well, you know, we did that personality test, and we came in like, and me and Jason both said, we want to redone. We want it recounted because that can't be right. I'm not like him, and he's not like me.

Here's where we are now. You're getting you said these. Here's where we are. About a week before it went down, Ms. Kay said, I've got this group of people, young people coming with Jason's daughter, and they're coming from the college to come down here. And I'm going to teach them how to cook chicken and dumplings. Homemade. And this is going to start at 7 o'clock.

Thanks for that. Thursday night, and you are to be dismissed before these proceedings happen. Move out, get away, and get gone. Then I'm like, okay, where'd I stay? She said, well, fine, Dan, some of you just camp out for about three or four hours. I go through the cooking episode. So you were asked to leave. Yeah, I was like, they basically said, you hit the road.

Well, nobody would want a grumpy old man in there telling us to be quiet. grabbed my weapon and a little grub, my dog won't up the road. It sounds so sad. And Phyllis wasn't even here to keep you company. There wasn't anybody here. But old Dan was here, you know. So Dan and I, while they were on the cooking episode, Dan and I was watching the exploits. Exploits of one.

Matt Dillon? Matt Dillon. So we went with Dylan and Ms. Kay went with the chicken of dumplings. I'm glad to know, Dan. I scrounged after I said, so when I can come back home, how does you get that work? She said, I'll give you a call. So she'd give me a call. Okay.

And all of a sudden, they all walked in with her. Well, they wanted to meet you. She had just fed, you know. So now we got a photo shoot, you know, and I'm sitting there. So I just went by and kind of scravaged around to come up with any leftover chicken and dumplings. I only took a good nap, but that already was. over some things, I'm just not, they don't want me on the premises. So this was, cooking episodes.

Nobody wants a grubby old man on the premises. We were having fun. I mean, they're all in college, but me, so they were having. But they did want to meet him. Oh, they did. You get a picture taken over. They did. They did.

I spoke at the prestigious university that they attend, David Liskam up in Tennessee. I was with you. That was a great. Remember? We spoke three times because they sold out their gymnasium three times. We spoke to 15,000 people that weekend. You realize that? 5,000 of people.

Well, these were the children of the people that went to David Liskam. So they're all brothers, good brothers. I embrace them as brothers. I don't know whether they embraced me as a brother. Do you remember you and Cyth throughout the first pitch at the baseball game that night? I remember that. Because they gave us the church. Oh, that's where that was.

Yeah, I remember that. They were wearing camouflage, special camouflage jerseys. Well, here's one for you. You know, we spoke at the other. college up there close to them their their rivalry yeah so I wear a shirt with the other church's name on it just with the other college yeah I guess I got it confused and they looked at me and they said we've got some extra shirts you can put don't wear that one their biggest rival yeah yeah so I did they found me another show wrong university that's right so we also have Lisa of course

my soulmate best friend so you're you're sitting in Jason's seat. Does that mean I have to complain the whole time I'm sitting? You have to complain a lot. You have to interrupt dad a lot. Yeah. She taught these girls how to make chicken dumplings, but that part of the country, that middle, middle part of Tennessee up in the hills,

there little Jason's move up there next to Nashville. There's a lot of salt of the earth people there. I love Tennessee. Actually, one of my girls that was there last night was from Kentucky, she told me about And I told her, wasn't that where Christine was from, Saan's wife from Kentucky? Yeah. Yeah.

She was, I think somewhere near Fort Knox. It wasn't her dad in the military, too. She was a military brat, I think. That's right. And there was one girl, let me tell you who she looked just like Aaron Spillers. And I called her Aaron. She said, Ms. Kay, that's not my name. I said, but you look like her.

And I mean, it was fun. Now you're doing dad. you're just randomly naming people, so you'll remember who they are? Well, obviously, that's what I... Do you think I could memorize 10 people last night? No, I don't. I do know one of the boys was named Hudson, because it was the Hudson River that goes into New York City.

Well, I thought it was just girls. She brought boys, too. Oh, she was going to bring five boys that only two came. It was the boyfriends of some of them. Oh, okay. And Mia was the one, she just met them at college, you know. Yeah. They wanted to learn how to make chicken.

They were very nice. I thought it was a good blow for society. How many young women want to know how to cook chicken and dumpling? And two men. Yeah. So did you, because sometimes lately, Mom, you forget stuff. I mean, did you pull it off? Did you?

How was it? Okay. Thanks to your. I'm just saying, I mean, you're still a great cook. I'm going to praise y'all for your daughter, Alex, who came down to help me. and I told her what I was going to do, I gave her the cookbook, and I said, I'm making this twice. So she had all ingredients here,

and a whole other counter, she had the other ingredients. Right before I left, I slipped in there when no one was looking. She had one chicken in one pot and another chicken and another pot, and the broth was there. I looked both ways. I got a spoon, and all I wanted to do was check the salt. And I checked it a little bit on one of them. and then the other one, you know.

And I, not much, but I put a little more salt in them. But I told her, I said, listen, if you forgot whether you salted this broth or not, remember, I've taken care of it, it's good to go. Don't put any more salt in here because about a month ago, she cooked some kind of dumplings. I forgot she put the salt in. Well, you know, you do that about three times, and you've got salty broth. You're like, you ain't seen lately.

Well, it's not like I'm a spring chicken, is it? You know, I forgot I'll put salt on it. You said to put some more. And when she walks by 10 minutes later, I forgot whether I did it or not. She grabbed the whole of this out. Well, it all turned out last night, thank you. Well, you had a lot of helpers. So Alex was making sure you had the ingredients.

Yeah, she had it. Alex did a wonderful job, your daughter. Oh, yeah, she's good. I mean, she was cleaning up behind her and lifting the heavy pots. I mean, you know, these pots are cooking these chickens in. I mean, we're talking about iron. Oh, it's a lot. That's exactly right.

Well, and, you know, she's, Alex's, I mean, she's got the bloodline. And then she finally, you know, fell in love with cooking. But she also had some professional training, which helps for some other things that she does. Well, and she was very good to have those so separated because when you're making one batch and you want to complete that and then to make another batch, you know, you don't, it would be. confusion but she had you know out like i say Alex went over here and on the other first bar you walk into my house she had one set and then on the other she had another set so i could go right into well you know as your kids you're always proud of but she's she's got a lot of skills she's also physically speaking also peter won when but there was about five times at least

practicing hospitality is a is a is the way to roll I mean, you know, practice hospitality. Well, y'all trained us in that. I mean, like, we saw it growing up. So our house is the hangout place. It is a great way to love your neighbor. It is. It also said a little caveat out there without grumbling.

So don't be saying, I ain't ever seen people eat that much. You know, you don't want to be talking negative about something that you fixed. It was good. And they cleaned it up pretty quick. Right. Whoa. Yeah. Now, that's good.

So, Mom, a lot of people ask me from our podcast. listeners, what's wrong with Jase? You're his mother. All I know. Hang on. How long do we have? We have a couple of hours for this. We have all the time we need. Okay. You can spend a whole podcast throwing him under the bus. Okay. At three years old, all I know is if I said it was red, he said it was green. And if I said it's this time, he said it's that time. And we just, all of life, we just conflicted, but, you know, then we did the personality test at church. And mine and his was the same.

And I said, I want to recount. I mean, I don't, that's not right. That's not right. This profile was stolen. And he said, I don't act like, Kay, are you crazy? And I said, I'm not, and I said, I'm not, Jace. So, which I guess pretty the point we are like, yeah. You did it. He told me he was always just kidding, but you never got his humor. That is bunch of bull. I'm sorry. That's what he told me. Y'all's clash was because you couldn't get his humor.

We now have a segment on the podcast on how to raise obedient, godly children. I look at all of y'all, I'm proud of the whole bunch. I think, yeah. You and then Jason and Willie and in Jeff. All for y'all, you mean. And Phyllis now. It turned out well. Yeah, it did.

But I didn't know. That was all going to go, but it did. See, and you were the sneaky pit. Alan would start all the same between Jason and Willie, and then he's out the back door when they're fighting it and duking it out. But he started the whole thing. The oldest brothers always know the right buttons to push to bring the wrath, and that's what I used to enjoy doing, was getting them to that point, you know.

Of course, they were easy marks because they, you know, they fought all the time. They were only two years. What about the night they locked me out of the house? Daddy was out of town, of course. Is that when you hit the window and broke it and then touch your hand? And then that's when I heard them scream. Uh-oh, she wrote the window. We better head for the hills.

And they took as fast as they could go and hit out the back door. And, of course, I was going to think I could catch them. They went up that hill like a thoroughbred horses. and I couldn't even get up the hill. So I said, you're going to come back and you will get it by your dad. It was funny watching, because I had daughters and then two granddaughters for the longest time. So all I knew was girls. And so until my grandsons came along, I hadn't really watched them how boys are.

And I'm shocked. And it took me back to our child because just constant fighting, running, loud noises, just tumbling over. And I thought, man, I guess. That's how we were the same way. It's just kind of for me. Well, we had to have, we had to stop on the way to church every Sunday so Phil could whip Jason or Willie. And he said, he'd look at me.

Quit looking at me. No, you can't look at me. That was one of the three rules, right, Dad. No, no, no fighting, no fighting. No meat popping. I mean, you could. It came to blows. Right.

Too much. Too much. Yeah. You have an argument. You want to make your point. Raise your voice. No problem. Right.

If it turns to blows, I see, you can't do that. So, Dad, I've become you at my house because I'm sitting there trying to watch a game. But now you get it, though, don't you? I get it. So I'm kids. Kids in the back. Outside. Outside.

Kids outside. I can't remember how many times dad has said that when, you know, with the grandkids or with us. You'll make a lot of racket. You got to get outside. Yeah. Right. You know, by the time, you all got about 16, 17. That's when no more, no more leather straps, no more, none of that.

That was just, I'm saying. Well, somebody sent a question in, since we're talking about it, we can answer it. Let's take a break. What's the best way to discipline a teenager? It must be having some issues with their teenage kids. Biblically, put a rod on their back. Whether it's a belt on their butt or a rod on their back. That's really better, younger, wouldn't you say?

Younger not. Oh, yeah. Once they get a certain age, I remember when you whipped us when we got drunk, But it was like, okay, this isn't going to work anymore. It's the last. Yeah. Roundup. That was the last one.

This won't work. So now you have to move to something else. So I think that's their question. I mean, what would you all? By the way, one of them kids that was with y'all came back. I didn't know who he was, but I said, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, bending over the car. So I put a belt on his butt.

Billy Red Dog, his mother and father. They were there. They said, can we watch because he needs his. tail, boy. I said, I don't mind if you watch. I said, you know, y'all are his parents. If you don't want a belt on his butt, tell me now. Because that's the, that's the, that's the code.

Yeah, because when you were with me, you said, I don't know who this kid is. You said, son, I don't know who you are, but you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. That always had the commentary. And 30 years went by and that guy showed back up. I remember me? And I said, no, I don't know. I think it's looked like your face for me. You know, I was trying to make him feel good.

I said, no, I don't remember me. He said, I was that fourth man. And when we all drank beer and with, with Al. I said, oh, you got in on the back of the car discipline. He said, yeah. He said, I just want to let you know. I need it, have a bit of it. And I'm glad you did it.

And I'm just telling you now, I'm back. I'm done with all that. Oh, yeah. I'm like, well, good. Yeah, he was an interesting guy. I had not seen him either until he came church that day. Yeah, that was, but that's what I'm saying. So what would y'all, where'd your advice be, babe, or mom?

What about teenage raising teenage? Because, I mean, you're into three, now you've got your great grandchildren are teenagers. I know. It's not like we had. Well, I think withholding something they won't is a good idea, not letting them go somewhere they want or taking away something they have that they don't want you to take away. It has to be something that matters. Yeah, that matters. Right.

You know, or, you know, that's all I can think. think of you can do with people. I think, you know, I think you need to communicate clearly as well. I think the biggest problem today I see with people and their teenage kids is they don't talk to each other. You know, they're in separate rooms, their own separate devices, you know. And so what happens is you got a lot of questions about behavior, but nobody's communicating what's going on. And so, therefore, you just get very isolated. You know where...

One of the things that's a... When y'all were young bucks up to you were 16, the... the computer world had not come on the scene yet. Right. You know, cell phones. What's that? So we didn't deal with the cell phone crowd. I think once the cell phone came, well, then the mischief started kind of started building, as they say.

It became more difficult to discipline. They sit over on that. We have to ration for our grandkids. Well, see, I have a new rule now. If we all sit at the table, no cell phone. phones. So I had those 10, 10 there last night from college that Mia brought for me to teach them how to make chicken and dumplings. So they all sat down. I'm sitting there and I'm just staring at this one boy and he said, am I doing something wrong? And I said, we don't use our cell phones

while we're eating at the table. He said, I'm so sorry. I just was looking up something. And I said, just look it up later. Okay. I think it also has to do with what the offense is. You know, some offenses are worse than others. So I think it has, you've got to, the consequence has to fit what the offense was. And, you know, we actually are helping to raise our grandkids. So whenever something happens, then Carly usually comes to me and you. And then we go with her to her parents or whatever.

I mean, it's just a relationship. Yeah. And again, that happened because of communication. Teenagers are going to mess up and their consequences many times at that level can be severe. Or fatal. Or fatal. That's right. So you have to have an open dialogue.

That's right. And our grandkids do come to us and talk to us. And then we go talk to their parents. We try to make sure the chain is clear on who's in charge. But at the same time, it's nice that they're willing to come talk to us. That takes effort. Dad, I was saying about that text in the Ephesion 6 that says, Fathers do not exasperate your children. And I think you and mom did a good job in raising us in the sense that the reason we are adult friends is because you didn't exasperate us. In other words, you had rules, but I mean, it wasn't overdone. If minor things had minor consequences, you know, I think that's a big thing for, it's hard. I mean, parenting is hard.

It's biblical for sure. Epheson 6, children. and obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment with a promise. That's in the Ten Commandments, you know. Children obey their father and mother, and they'll live. And he says it, that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy your long life on the earth. He's actually saying if you discipline your children,

they'll live longer and so will you. That's right. Well, that's a pretty big promise if you look at it. You've never thought about that, but, you know, one pill these days, wrong pill and you're dead. Exactly. That's right. Yeah. I mean, somebody tries something and they're poison.

You're exactly right. I think there should be a rule. You don't eat candy that you don't know where you got it or how. Who brought it? I mean, you just think about that. Even dabbling. Kids will dabble into something. They think they're doing something else.

Then it kills them. Yeah. It's 100,000 a year. It's very scary. You know, last night, they wanted me to tell some stories, you know, about y'all and all that. But the first one I picked up on it said, well, let me tell you one about Willie Jess Robertson. I said, this is how I knew he was going to be well off one day and probably be some kind of real important businessman. And they said, when he was young, you thought that?

And I said, well, what happened in school was he got me to bring him some different candy and little chips and all that. And he said he needed it for school, you know, for snacks. Like I thought, well, I thought they always had a snack thing at school, but maybe they don't. So anyway, and I was hoping maybe he's helping pour or something. Oh, yeah. Well, I was dead wrong. He goes up there and starts selling all the snacks. and the whole school wouldn't buy from the school,

they would only buy from Willie. He was undercutting the concession stand. That's what he was doing. Capitalism. And he came home with his, and then he would do this too, not only that with the snacks, but he told me on the bus that he could sing.

He memorized all your songs on an 8-track box. Foreigner. Uh-huh. And he sang. He called his human jukebox. Yeah, his favorite one was a jukebox hero. But, and he would say, they'd say sing for us, Willie. And he said, well, it'll be a quarter.

Who wants to hear me sound? A quarter in the slot. You put it in his armpit and he would drop it in his pocket. That's right. And so then I got a call from the principal at school that said, you have to do something about your son. And I said, what's he doing? They said, well, by itself, he shut down the whole school concession stand

that we used to raise money. And they all wanted buy all their snacks from Willie Robertson. And I said, well, you shut down the school. He said, well, I'm making an enterprise and business here, and now they won't let me do it. But the socialist won over the capitalist because they shut him down. But that showed you in the fifth grade. He had some, you know, something about being going to make money. Well, he was also cute, so that helped.

Imples helped. Oh, yeah, and all the girls liked him. Oh, yeah. We don't know what happened now, but it used to be cute. When he tells those stories when he speaks, he tells us, he said, he always knew how well y'all were doing with the business as to where they were in the free lunch program. You know, times were hard when it was free lunch. When they went to half lunch, half cost, he said, that meant the business must be picking up. By the time he said we started having to pay for our lunch, we were.

were off and running with that commander so that's how he says he rated it was the well i tell him it it didn't hurt him to have humble beginnings that's right he's obviously forgot some of those now with his you know enterprises and i was asking him i said if you started any new business he said mom you don't want to hear about that that would just confuse you let's don't even talk about that just let him go let him do what he's do let him do let him do let him do let him do let's take another break So, Mom, I don't know if you knew this or not. Yesterday, it was a big press release, giving the date of the release of the movie about your and dad's young life called the Blind.

Scary. September 22nd, 2020, is what it's going to be. So about a year from now is when the movie were released. And just to let Unashamed Nation know, so there's going to be a trailer that will come out at some point. want you to know when it's going to come out. So if you go to theblindmovie.com, the blind movie, then you can sign up and they'll give you, like, updates and tell you what's happening with the movie. Because let's face it, it's your life, right?

Yeah, that's real scary to watch it, too, I'm telling him. Did both of you get to meet all the actors playing you? Well, what I did. Because there's three different age ages. The girl me, the eight-year-old girl, me, we've, we've, Facebook talked and the Facebook talked Well, how you ever you do, FaceTime or something.

And then the teenage girl I talked to and saw our picture. So I got to see both of them. But the adult one, you didn't. I did. Oh, you did. We met at Willie's house. He brought in just the actors playing us. Yeah.

When they was, Dad's was a Brit. Was yours a Brit? Yeah, mine's worth them. Yes. Isn't that amazing? That their British. I wanted to listen to our accents. Yeah.

I wonder how well they got it. I have no idea. I don't know, but I... You got a pretty good twang. Yeah, and she needs to mess up most of her words, and then she would really be me. I don't know that you messed up all your words back then, though. I've messed them up since I've been learning. Have you?

It just seems like recently it's gotten worse. So what are you, so are you excited about the movie? Dad's a little trepidations about it because he's not crazy. That's a big word. There you go. That's bigger to scrabble board. Yeah. He's not sure about it, but what?

What is your feeling about it? Because I don't think we've talked to you about the movie. Well, I'm excited about it. We've seen a couple of clips. Yeah, and everybody cried. It was a cry fest. It was. And even you had tears.

You might not admit it, but he did. And I was like, oh, my goodness. This might be harder to go through than I thought. But I'm excited because, and what I told this yesterday to, or last night to these kids, I said, you know, when I was, we were younger and our crazy lives were going on, I said, you know, my family should be on TV. I said, we're so funny and crazy. We would make a TV show.

It was all a joke. I never in a hundred thousand years thought that would come true. I just made a statement. And look, it came true. That's right. It took, it took more toward the end than the beginning. But, you know, that's why it should be because you guys have lived, you know, a pretty long life up to now with hopefully some more years to come. But you're looking back, way back.

I mean, we're going back over 50 years, 60 years in time to be able to tell this story, which is pretty much. It's amazing that we haven't aged at all. Yeah. You're age as long. So since we're talking about that era, I have some questions here from listeners today. Brian asked, Ms. Kay, if you could go back to the time before Phil came to the Lord. So that's the setting of this movie. And give yourself advice.

What would you tell your younger self? I don't even have to understand that. It's a bit of a time loop situation. If you could go back and talk to Kay and her 20s, what would you tell her? Based on what you know now? Well, the thing is, the reason, they never agreed with me the reason that my grandma taught me to stay with your husband. She said divorce shouldn't exist because, except for the worst thing, you know. But she kept, you know, just in me that you're going to have it.

You're, you know, one man, one wife for one life and all that. And then she started telling me stuff to do because things were going to go wrong. And I said, well, I'm not going to have things go wrong in my marriage. I mean, I've already planned out, like, who I kind of want to get, and I know I can probably find that man, which I did. And then I just said, I just can't see. I don't understand. And I didn't.

But then when it was real, and when Phil was not, well, he was just not walking, you know, walking with God. So the devil was in him. And I used to get so mad at him. I called him the devil, didn't I? Yep. But that whole through there... We were pretty close. Was that everybody kept advising me to leave him, to leave him, to leave him.

And yet I kept thinking about what my grandmother said about, no, you stay, you stay, you stay. Because if you stay, I mean, God's going to work it out, but you're going to have hard times. I mean, she let me know I'm going to have hard times. But I didn't believe that they were going to. going to be as hard as they were. Right.

But see, I don't know because the part of me was raised with her would never change. That way I felt about that. And I was so glad for much of her advice. And that was one of them. But do I think, well, if I left, would he quit sooner? I have no idea. Yeah. Well, all I know is it was obviously a destiny changing thing for our family because you stayed

and because dad accepted Christ. Except when he threw us out of the house. I mean, I hate to throw you under the bus, but you did it. It's all I can say. And that little rainy night, we packed up with our boatswagon, and, you know, I put all y'all in there. And, you know, we went over to his brothers, and we spent the night, but he said we could only stay one night.

And I said, really? I mean, and he said, I'm scared of feel. That's what his brother said. I'm scared of him if he's drinking. So I'm just sorry. Well, that was a volatile person at that time. But it wasn't too many months after that when the whole thing turned around. But I will tell you all, both something, just my observation,

Lisa and I go and speak around the country. We talk a lot about our failures and Lisa talks a lot about things that's happened in our life. But this movie, I think, will only make people respect and love y'all more. Right. Because once you see what people have gone through, and then, because you get to see the good, I mean, Lisa and I understand in front of them, but all this is, they're seeing the good ending. That's right. We're together and we're talking about what God did for us. But when you go back, how many times do people come and say, courageous?

Y'all are so courageous. You talk about this stuff. And had a guy tell me he was in politics in the last stop we were in. And he said, my wife's story and me are so much like y'all's, but I don't have the courage. to talk about. And I looked at him, I said, yeah. And he looked at me. He was like, because when God does something so amazing, in the case of y'all,

that was an amazing thing because most families would have never made it with all that. And he does something so amazing. The world needs to know what that is. And so I told dad when we were talking about the movie mom that you think about it, all the people have ever lived in human history, how many people have ever had a movie made about their life? They either had to be really good or really bad to have a movie made about it. Yeah, and in our case, it was almost like God does perform miracles.

Yeah. It is. Oh, boy, I'm glad Jason here. Get him going on miracles. I think another thing you've got to look at is generational too, because what you did in staying with Phil and being committed and forgiving and being patient with Phil, then played out in Alan's life with me.

Yeah. Because then he was committed. He forgave me. He was patient, you know, for me to, for the Lord to change the things in me that he needed to. And so then I think, you know, on down,

we help our kids in the same way with patience and forgiveness and commitment. And then hopefully that's going to pass. on down more and more generations. But whenever you have divorce in a family, and I know I'm not naive, I know there's times that that's necessary, so I'm not saying that. But whenever people have divorce in their family, just because, you know, it's too tough, I don't want to work it out, usually their children have divorce in their family.

because they did not get that stick-toitiveness, you know, that to be able to go through the hard times and come out on the other side. And to, like your grandmother said, to fight for your marriage. I bet your grandmother at some point had to fight for her marriage. I know she did. And that's the reason why she told you about. But she never told me details or nothing like that

when she was telling things, but they had it hard too, you know. I know they did because they were real poor. And then when they started in the back of that store, I mean, it was just a huge room. And they put up curtains to separate them from my daddy and Uncle Tom, his brother. And, I mean, they lived there for just years with no real, there was no privacy until the store got going and making money. And then my grandmother got to build the first brick house in our town, you know,

and that was such a big deal. But they didn't even have that. They used to a outhouse. Now, I guess they bathed. How long was that store there? How many years? So it's been 75 years is how long it's been. 75 years.

Yeah. How long was it in business? Do you remember? At least 50 of that. It was a lot of years because what we did was... I mean, it was still running in the 90s. Nanny and Papa and Uncle Thompson and my daddy did it. And, you know, for years and years and years.

when my daddy died, you know, and then Uncle Joppa's still there. But Ronnie came in to work. My sister came in to work. I mean, so it was still just family, family. And even when they decided to shut it down, my cousin, Ritchie Hoyer, came in there and tried to run it for, you know, a couple of years and all that. Now they're wanting you and Willie to make it a museum. Hang on, let's take a break.

They're wanting to make it a museum about your family. I know, well, but somebody's already rented to do something else. I don't know what they're going to do. I laugh because on the side of the building, it says built in 1926 or 27. I mean, it's like, somebody tried to remember they weren't quite sure. So it's somewhere in that range. That's like Duck Commander, 1972, or it could have been 73. Maybe it was 74 or I don't know.

Maybe it was 1971. Well, they should have come to me. I'm the family historian. Some of the stuff up there on the stuff is not right. But, you know, I don't know who. People that weren't there at the beginning, you remember it differently than it actually happened. Yeah.

Well, I mean, we all remember things different. Me and him remember several times different. But he did. I want him to tell what, what I told him that, and I only recently shared this with him about what I saw when I saw, the first time I saw him at North Caddo, where we went to high school. She said I was just walking down the hall, and as I walked by, she told her friend, whoever was standing there, I'm going to marry him.

She said, you think? He said, yep, he's the one. Well, the first time she had laid eyes on me. I was very interested in sports, so I loved, you know, that he was a quarterback and everything. And, you know, his brother. You still like football. I love football. Yeah, 70.

year old woman sitting up there. First I go to a couple of years ago, one of my friends, you know, her children go to Riser, and I'm sitting up there watching her kids because I'm kind of adopted them. And so there's all these mothers, grandmothers and everything,

all sitting around me, they don't, I said, what position does your son play? And she said, I don't know. What positions are out there? I mean, they knew nothing. I mean, nothing. So I got Phil, I come home and got him to write up a big thing about how you line up on offense, defense, doing.

So I go back to try to explain all that to them. I don't know that they got it, but they finally somewhat knew what their grandson was doing. So you said that in the hall when you were 14 then? 14 years old. Like a freshman in high school. That's pretty amazing. You were, how old were you when you said you were going to marry me? In the sixth grade.

You were like 11. Wow. Oh, that's early. It's pretty amazing. The only thing is Phil probably saw you. Allen never saw me. Well, I had a lot going on. He had bigger fish to fry.

It was a big deal. It's bad when you peak in the eighth grade. So Mr. Pankrest is the only title I've ever had. Yeah. I was doing a wedding one time and it was at the rehearsal. And this woman, she's very proper, you know, prim, and she's trying to get everybody lined out. And I thought, oh, here we go.

this is going to be fun, you know, just like dictatorial for the wedding. And she said, she called me pastor at first. And she said, oh, I'm so sorry. What title do I need to address you as during the rehearsal? And I said, well, I prefer your excellency. And when I said it, all the kids laugh, you know, all the people at the wedding laughed. She didn't laugh. She didn't think that was funny at all.

Well, we've caused more confusion to at weddings at jail. and Zach's wedding, I know that her mother said there was a little too much Louisiana humor going on. Well, you know, when I did Kim's wedding, Kim Holly, my first cousin. So I'm young. I'm like 26. I'm freshly minted out of preaching school. And I was kind of building up my following, you know, here. And so I go overdo the wedding. She pulls me aside. And I don't know how old she was. She was young, too. And she said, you know how like you tell funny stories about the family and everybody laughs and they love your teaching and stuff? And I was like, yeah. I mean, I thought she was like, you know, give me some comments. She said, I don't want any of that at the wedding. And I was like.

Boring. I was like, really? And she said, yeah, just do the basics and we'll get this over. And so I did her son's wedding, Hayden, who's time, you know, timing Nancy's grandson. And so I got to tell that story. You know, I said, I couldn't say anything funny at your mom's wedding, but I'm going to do what I want at your wedding. How about that? Yeah.

Everybody laughed. It was really funny. But I loved to gigger with that idea, which is pretty funny. Let's take our last break. So, Dad, in this segment, I wanted to read another question. I thought this was good. And he asked you, this is from Caleb in Colorado. He's 22 years old.

He said two months ago, I proposed to my girlfriend. She said, yes. I am regrettably not currently a man of faith, and she's never been in a religious family. I know I can't do this on my own, but I don't know how to bring faith into our lives. And he talks about he'd grown up where they fought a lot about religion. And so he says, where can I start, Phil? I want to be the best man I can be for my wife, myself, my wife's family, and our family's marriage legacy. You and Miss Kay, you guys have a dynamic that I really hope me and my wife can channel.

You have a wonderful woman in marriage for years and years. I believe you can answer this question better than any therapist or counselor. So what would you tell this young man who's about to be married? Not a man of faith by his own admission. I'd tell him to read the book of John. Maybe he could throw in the book of Matthew while he was at it. Won't take him long to read it. That tells you who Jesus is, what he's done for you and your wife to be.

your sins have been removed you're guaranteed you're being raised from the dead marry each other stay faithful to one another love God love your neighbor of each other all of how you should behave

is throughout the Bible you read the scriptures you apply them that way you'll know the difference between good and evil and just do what's good the country solely needs it your marriage will need that so you better prepare yourself right now just go around and do good love your wife stay with her it's a it's a serious thing when you

marry like that so treat her well yeah yep paul said in ephesians 5 33 that a husband needs to love his wife as christ love the church and a wife needs to respect her husband the way he put it when he kind of concluded that section. Even when they're bad. Well, exactly. And so which, I mean, that's one thing I appreciate about you. Dad was not living a respectable life.

And yet you still were trying your best to be who you need to be for him. She was very patient. She was. That's exactly right. And that would be what I would say, right, babe. I mean, we talk about it. Another good thing, Caleb, is I would encourage you to read Job 31, which is to me one of the best chapters in the Bible about what a respectable man looks like.

And I think you should get your fiancé to read Proverbs 31. Because when Lisa and I do a marriage talk about this, we say if a wife is doing her dead level best to be lovable, it makes a marriage better. It makes it easy for him to do what God commanded to do. If the man is living a respectable life, it makes it easier for her to respect it. So it's two simple things, but very difficult sometimes to do. What would you say, Mom, what's your advice to this young couple?

Yeah, you know, he needs to get to know Jesus and become a follow. And I'm telling you, it changes because when you learn and reading the Bible, you see because everybody's all about their self because that's just how they are. They grow up. But then when you have a marriage, then you're one. You go as one, even though you have this different way. I mean, Phil's smart, smart, smart. I'm not that smart, but I have a lot of common sense. I would probably have a PhD in that.

And so. In the school of Hard Knocks, you got a PhD. Yeah, I do. But look, I was never jealous because he went to college and all that, and I couldn't. I tried one semester, and my two professors says, you know, there's many good people that don't go to college. And, you know, that didn't mean anything that you're not good. It just means that that's not your route. And I said, I found that out when I saw my grades in those two classes.

So I'm not pursuing college. Don't worry about that. But I think, and I saw it so much, like I say, because I was raised so much by my grandmother. And I remember beautiful things about them. Like they would, at night, they had two double beds with a nightstand in between. And I would sleep with nanny, you know, and Papa slept up another one, but they would hold hands before they went to sleep every night. And then I remember them sitting in two rocking chairs in the middle of them.

Oh, space heaters we used to have. That's what they had back then. And they were just, she, I heard her read the Bible to him, and they talked and they communicated, you know, even in old age. And it was such a perfect example. of, you know, what you should be. But, I mean, you know, she started out and she got married at 15. And she said back then, they're kind of pushing you out of the house

because it was so hard times, you know, if you had one mouth less to feed, that was good. Right. So, you know, there's so many different circumstances, and she said that she got her, she had a gown and, like, three clothes, you know, sets, our dresses, I'm sure that's all they wore, and all that. And her little, I mean, it was such a little bit of stuff. And then you just, you know, you started out with nothing. And yet they just made it for how many years until my papa died, you know. And now you're nanny. You're her age. Oh, I am. Whenever I was, you know, a little boy and go in there, that's you now. You're that of our family.

You know, didn't you think she looked like Aunt Biel on Andy Griffith? She had that hair up in a bun. And a bun, you know, and she never wore anything but her dress in her life. The shame of it is for me is that really nobody else in our family knew her because she died. She had diabetes and she died. Heart attack. Heart attack, yeah. And so I'm the only one that got spending time with her, you know, because Jason and Willie don't remember.

She thought she was the best thing that ever happened. And, you know, her neighbor. He was a good judge of character. Okay, let's don't get all conceited here. But her neighbor, this is a cute little story, so be patient. Her neighbor was called Miss Veda, and she lived by herself. Her husband died. He used to just, all he did all day was whistle.

But anyway, she was, that's what old people did. He just sat around a whistle? He did. He could make so much. any whistling noise. And so when he passed away. It's a random fact, right? So she had this beautiful, beautiful flyer.

You know, Nanny raised flowers on, but she had these special award-winning tulips. And she was so proud of them and everything. And that was just a whole thing. I can know where this story's going. Yeah. And so it was just like they were just her pride joy. They were like, what she lived for,

making this beautiful tulips. And, you know, Nanny couldn't even. grow the tulips because they didn't grow in hers saw but they grew over there so uh when Ellen was up there he come over and he said mama I brought you the best present the best present he's a little boy and I said what did you bring me and he held up those tulips and I said you brought me wrist baited his tulips he said I picked them all I picked them all and I was like oh my gosh we got to get this out of sight out of mine I didn't know Yeah, and you did it, and you were so sweet, and that was such a nice gesture.

So I got a question of her, has Jace ever brought you? Ms. Veda's flowers? Not hardling. Not hardling. Remember that when the will comes by. Just remember who the one that brought. He's just sitting around whistling. He's just, yeah, Jay's a whistler.

Yeah, or playing poker or something. But anyway, I mean, each one had their unique thing of all. y'all. You remember that? And, of course, they all got jealous because Jep got the most. But I set y'all down before I put him in Ossist and said, well, that bother y'all? That you couldn't go to a private school, Christian school, but he can. And every one of you all said, no, we want him to go. We're glad he can go. Well, and I think that's the thing. People ask all the time, how do you guys stay close as a family? you know, because now we're all patriarchs of our own clans, Dad.

I mean, we've all got grandchildren, except for Jeff. But it's because we really, you instilled in us an ability to love each other. And so, you know, is it hard sometimes? Well, sure, you disagree. You know, you're a family. But at the end of the day, it's just like the show tried to illustrate. We're together. We all still live in the same town, even though our, you know, people get spread out.

We work all around the country. but we're all here because of you guys. I mean, we love that. We can't hardly fit in our house at Christmas. We're almost too big. It's like now when we get together, it reminds me of an old family reunion. You know, so many people come together. You've got to go to a park or someplace because we can't already fit in a house anymore.

I mean, we have multiplied. But I think that the way that the family is, I didn't come from a family like that. We were not real forgiving of one another. And we didn't always get along. My mother didn't always care for her son-in-laws or her daughter-in-law. And so we didn't, you know, that's not how I was raised. But lucky for me, I came into this family at 18. So, you know, next month, Alan and I celebrate 38 years of marriage.

That's why. But my thing is, I think that's why we could so easily embrace Phyllis is because... Well, we've been looking for them. Yeah, well, you guys embraced me. I mean, whenever I came into the family, you totally embraced me. And family means something to the Robertsons, you know? It means, yeah, I mean, it means that you're mine, and I'm... want to take care of you. And I think that's why it was, because people ask all the time,

I mean, how did that work out with Phyllis? And, you know, what was Ms. Kay thinking? And, you know, how is, how is that affecting their relationship? But it's, but to me, when I look at it, I see forgiveness and I see patience. I see commitment, acceptance, which is all the things that that this family has offered to me in the 38 years that I've been in it. But also, it's what we offer for Phyllis, too, is that, you know, we want her to feel like she's part of us. Well, it was no accident. It was no accident that she says when she tells how she first met us that yours is the first face she saw, and then she knew it was going to be okay.

I mean, God had that arranged. You know, she would see Lisa first. We're out of time. that seemed to go by fast. Yep, it did. But so we're going, in overtime, I wanted us to all share our favorite verse and why. So we're going to do that in the overtime.

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