Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 575 | Phil Updates Blue's Lineage & Jase Discusses the Grossest Bible Story Ever!

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Al reads questions sent in by the “Unashamed” audience to Jase and Phil, and Phil takes over the conversation with a little update on his old hunting friend Blue. Jase stumbles across the stranges...t and grossest story in the Bible, and he says religious people are not gonna like this ... And Zach makes an interesting point about Psalm 78 concerning the way people approach God when making a request. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashame. Jase, there was another question I got for you. This may lead to the last question I got. We did the whole podcast of us. The Avenger. But this one is a little more just simplistic,
Starting point is 00:00:24 but I thought it was interesting because I thought she jogged my memory too. So this is from Sarah. She said, whatever became of Jason's hunting dog, Biggin. Oh. I think last season he was bringing it along and hoped it would be the next blue, but he nor Phil have said anything about it recently. No, Biggin is doing well. I love Biggin.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Missy asked me all the time. She's like, I mean, what are you going to do with this dog? I love this dog. What are you trying to say? So the last day of duck season last year, because I was gone. I missed. Oh, we were filming. our treasure hunting show.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yep. And so they weren't shooting many ducks or whatever. So on the last day, which was a Sunday before church, everybody else, because we had the worst season, was it the worst season ever last year, Phil? It's the worst in at least 30 years. It was slow, slow, slow. Our total was far below the average. Yeah, so it was a tough season.
Starting point is 00:01:24 So I can tell you how bad it was. The last day I went duck hunting by my house. myself with Began. And I did kill my limit, and he did awesome. He just, he doesn't do well around others. Other dogs, other people. He has bad manners. And so it's like, why replace him with Blue?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Because Biggin was the answer to Blue, but Blue's problem was he's a whiner and rambunctious and hard to control, even though Blue was a great retriever. Yeah. But Biggin is rambunctious. He's a whiner. And he's not as good as he's good. So he's got all the issues without.
Starting point is 00:02:11 The replacement is actually what we wanted to get away from. But for Sarah, so she will know. First of all, if you're a dog-loving woman, you're a good woman. That's the first thing. Now, Sarah, here's what's coming down to pipe. Where is that in the Bible? I sent, uh, It could be.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Sarah, what this means is I'm looking toward the future. I found a little female, and Burley Dane Jennings, a guy I converted about 35, 40 years ago. He has now Blue, who is retired in Colorado. So Bernie has blue. So Blue got a place up there, huh? This question was about Biggin. This is nothing to do with about.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It's coming. I'm fixing it. We're filling the gap for Biggin. Okay. So Burley is sitting on Old Blue over there in Colorado. We gave Blue a female, comes from good lineage. And I said, we need some pups from Old Blue because Old Biggin just ain't cutting it. So Burley called me here about a couple of months ago.
Starting point is 00:03:23 He said, Phil, Blue has bred the little female. that we had, and she's had 10 puppies. They were sired by old Blue, the greatest retriever I've ever had. So now he's going to bring two with him. Did he pick the quiet ones? I told him to say, go through that list of 10 pups. Look at the 10 pups as they start to get mischief, and they're jumping and they're running around.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I said, pick out the two that you think, Burley, would be the greatest retrievers of all time, like Blue. I said, I want two of them. I said, one may not make it, the other one to make it. So he's bringing with him, he always comes to visit me for the entire duck season. He shuts down everything and he duck hunts with us every time. So through Burley and Blue, he has sired 10 pups and we're going to take two of them. I wish I would have been in on this meeting.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You need to tell him to pick the most quiet and the, and the. The most... They've got to have the fire. No. No, no. I disagree. I have the fire. You want the most laid back two of the litter.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah. Well, I told Burley to hand pick them, the one he thought best. I think there were like eight blacks and I think it was ten of them. There was about seven to seven blonde and about seven black, I think, and about three blondes. So he's going to look at him and decide. and he's bringing two with him. Well, now that may be... They're going to live their life in my front yard, Sarah,
Starting point is 00:05:03 so I'm going to be looking after them. I got a little place for them. I'm all ready for the birth... I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Biggin. Are you going to name one of them, Biggin? Keep Blue alive and remove Biggin and make a house dog out of him. Subdivision dog. How about you name...
Starting point is 00:05:22 All right, how about you name him blinging? It's a cross-part. Between blue and it's bling. Bling. Bling. B-L-I-N-G. B-L-N-G. B-L-I-N-G, as in.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I'm bringing some bling. Some swag. So I'll let you know, we're still, but blue is still alive. His bloodline is still possible through the two dogs I'll get. And about duck season is about six weeks out. We're all getting ready. We didn't do good last year. I've got it rearranged, better,
Starting point is 00:05:57 feed. I've pumped for about four days. I got water back on the hole. Ultimately, it's out of your control. If the ducks show up, we're good. It was a good sign when I pulled out there to see where the water was when I was pumping it. And I noticed out there it was more than we had in teal season,
Starting point is 00:06:13 Jase. It was about, look, it's about like this all over that thing. Right in front of the blind. 20 elusive blue-wing teal were right in front of the duck blind. We had a great tell season. Yeah, we talked about that.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Good shoots. So to finish the question on this, I see what you did here, because this story that we're fixed to get into, actually dogs come up. Now you're figuring my connection. Which, look, by the way, is one of the most controversial statements in the entire Bible. True. And we fixed a wade into that. But to finish the Began wrap up, what I've noticed is he's just, I love Began. and he does really well when I'm with him, with just me and him.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And Biggin is a yellow, right? Yellow lap? Yeah, yellow lap. And he's a great demeanor dog, and I've just become attached to the dog. I love that dog. And if you had the opportunity to choose the blondes or the blacks, who would you go with? Just for color or does it make a difference? I don't think it matters.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I mean, it's kind of like real life. It just doesn't matter. I mean, I do think that yellows tend to be. a little more docile because they're also service pets. Well, Biggin, flies in the face all that. Well, I know. I said tend to me. Let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:07:33 When I open his gate bin, if you're in the way, he will kill you. I mean, he's ready to go. He will run through you. He doesn't go around anything, which is why he's constantly has injuries. And this dog is fearless. He will do anything. I will tell you this. So, because I haven't taken him since last season, and he does well.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I mean, y'all have always picked at me as kind of being a lone wolf McQuaid, and I realize this dog is just, he's a lone wolf McQuaid. So if you get two lone wolf McQuades, one canine, one human, we weren't pretty well together. So he's, when I go by myself, I take him, and that's fine. That's his role. But what I was going to say is, so I took two blue-winged tail. Did I share this story? Blame.
Starting point is 00:08:19 So two of the ones that we shot. until season. And so I just thought, because he's now, he goes and gets any tennis ball from Willie's yard. Then he eats it. Well, he does. He eats it. He doesn't need to bring that practice over to that time.
Starting point is 00:08:36 No. So any tennis ball that is hit outside the bounds over at Willys, if it finds itself in the yard or in the woods, he picks them up. And he caresses them for about a day. Then he eats them. and he either, it comes out one way or the other. And I see just the debris.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I mean, he's eating hundreds. That's a lot of confusion. Yeah. Well, I told he's got some quirks. So anyway, so I take two blue-winged teal, and I go past my neighbor's house way away from his pen. And there's a pond there. And I put one out in the water, and I'll put another one. So what happened was I about the time I was fixing to open the pen I got a phone call and so I was like well I'll I'll let him do his business I let him out you know he uses this nature call there and then I was going to work him like with a whistle and so I get on the phone open his pen so I look over there he's finding him a tree you know to do his do his business and but he
Starting point is 00:09:48 It's kind of in the brush a little bit. I'm on the phone. I'm talking and time goes by. Well, it's only a couple minutes. I look up. Here he comes with one of them blue winged till in his mouth. That's over 100 yards away from his pen. Good sign.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I thought it was a great sign. He smelled that blue wing tail. I was like, good. Boy, hang on. You know, I was on the phone. Hang on. I petted him. You know, I was like, got another one.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Back, you know. So I took him off. He went out. I waved him over. I get back on the phone. I said, well, I mean, he found that one. Let's see if he finds old one. You're multitasking now.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I'm multitasking. You got your phone business going. You got the dog. You're working. I'm tall. I mean, I'd say 10 minutes goes by because now I realize I thought, I just hope he's in still in the parish. Because he's just out of sight gone. Well, last time I looked, headed toward the tennis court.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So I thought I'll deal with that later. I'm walking back to the house. And so I finally hang up the phone. I blow the wall. whistle. Here he comes with the other teal in his mouth. There's hope, Jace. I mean, I thought, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:10:58 He used his nose. He found both teal. And so, I mean, I just don't know what to tell you. I took that as, what do you want him to do? Is he good enough for the other, one of them other dog? We'll take one at a time. If we take one of them other dogs, is he good enough to where your dog Biggin could kind of show these pups what this is about.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Not bringing back shotgun shell hulls as the last one did. No, that's yours. Yours did that. And we shot the ducks. They all went and got the holes and started picking up the hulls. I said, oh, get the ducks. At least Biggin knows the difference between a duck and a shotgun shell. There's hope.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Now, if we shot tennis balls, we'd have a problem. But I got the bloodline of blue coming in two dogs. The bloodline of blue. I am fired up about it, girl. The Bloodline of Blue. So. When we get into Mark. There's your next movie.
Starting point is 00:11:52 The Bloodline of Blue. Why isn't it that a woman asked that question. You know what? You know, these boys ought to be in a, you know, what's your man. I think about all this. You know, there's women duck on us, just like there's men. You bet you. So look, Mark 7.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Now, I mean, because it's been a podcast or two since we were in Mark, and I want to propose two because I told you it's one of the most controversial passages. But don't get so caught up in the controversial. statement that you forget the overall view. Al, you can give the review. I think we went through chapter 7, 1 through 23. Correct. Which we, and they're all tied together, I believe, in 7 and 8, because this concept comes up in March 7 about the Pharisees. Oh no, I agree they're all tied together. Yeah, the Pharisees show up on the scene. And what happens, because remember Jesus is out in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Remember, he fed the 5,000, and there's nowhere to go to get food. We walked on the water, and we did jump to chapter 8 because he's going to feed the 4,000. Correct. And then he makes this illustration in 814 through 21 about the disciples not having the type of yeast of the Pharisees, which is having a lack of understanding or a heart that's hardened or having eyes that are that fail to see who he is because people have read the predictions about Jesus coming and now he's here but no one is embracing it they're they're viewing him as the Messiah because he they have to explain where he's getting these powers right but they don't view him as Lord. or the son of God. So, exactly. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So when you get to seven, he brings up this thing because the Pharisees, when they show up on the scene, they see his disciples not doing this ceremonial washing, which we talked about, all his rituals, ritualistic stuff. And they, you know, they make a point of it to Jesus, that, you know, why aren't your disciples like us? And so he basically takes them to task through this process. and that's what leads up to now these two miracles that are about to happen. So the concept is, what makes a man clean?
Starting point is 00:14:25 What makes a man unclean? Look, we did not collaborate on this. We did not. But you set this up perfectly because I want to bring something up and we can spend the whole rest of the podcast discussing it. You can agree with me or disagree with me. So this idea of clean and unclean, this first one, I mean, how would you sum up the one in Chapter 7? And I guess you have to go what he somehow when he gets to the end and says it's not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but it's what comes out of.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And he was talking about the heart and a spiritual versus the physical. He makes that contrast about physical and spiritual. Let's face it, this is what they're missing the whole point of through the whole process, is they keep thinking the kingdom is physical. And, you know, all these things are physical. And he said, wait a minute, you got to get to the spirit. You've got to get to the heart. So if you like summed all these things up, I mean, in this case, it was the human traditions or laws based on human traditions rather than the word of God.
Starting point is 00:15:27 That statement is is in there. You remember when he said that in verse 7, they worship me in vain. Their teachings are but rules taught by men. Which was a quote from Isaiah. That's right. Yeah. And so then he got on talking about human traditions rather than. the Word of God.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This idea of what's on the outside rather than the inside. Law keeping versus grace is always a theme in there. So when he gets to this, and I believe Mark continues this idea, we agree, Al, of telling this story about what happens because when you read the verse verse, Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Tyre. And so all of a sudden he said, no, wait a minute. if you do a geographical location at the time, this seems out of the ordinary. Correct.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And do you all want to tell why before I drop a nugget? One of the things I'll say about Tyre is interesting because it has a long history. You go back and study it in the Old Testament. The Israelites never conquered Tyre. I mean, it had its own independent place this whole time. And it was a Gentile city, which is really interesting. So you're right, Jayes, even though this is a lot of Gentile. in this region, the Dachopoulos, you know, we've been talking about, these 10 cities.
Starting point is 00:16:49 But Tyre was its own set aside. It's almost like it was, the way I looked at, Jace, was, and it may not be true, but it's almost like, hey, we're going to get off the campaign trail and go over here to this little place. Yeah. That's out of the way. And so he meets this woman, in verse 26 describes the woman. She was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. So she's called the, what is the term, a syrophenician?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yep. Sero-Fanishan woman. Now, she had a, well, let me just go back and read the second part of 24. He entered a house and he did not want anyone to know it, yet he could not keep his present secret. In fact, as soon as she heard about him, a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an evil spirit came and fell at his feet. And so there's who she was. She begged Jesus to drive out the demon out of her daughter. Now here's the controversial statement.
Starting point is 00:17:45 First, Jesus said, 27, let the children eat all they want, he told her, for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs. So he uses a parable slash proverb, but it seems to imply that he's calling her a dog because she's a Greek. she's not part of the Jewish system of which he came to save. Right. Right. Correct. So that makes people feel uncomfortable because they're like, well, why in the world? But the word, yeah, but the word dog here is, it's like a, it'd be like a pet.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, like a puppy. I've heard that. And I read all that myself, or people said puppies, you know, it's like affecting it. But I think. It's still a canine reference. It is a canine reference. And I think people came up with that to try to justify. But you've got to remember, he's making a point here.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And I'll give you what I think in just a second, but I want to read this whole thing. So in verse 28 is a key phrase to me in understanding what this is all about. Because she does something that up until there's time, the Pharisees hadn't done, the religious people hadn't done. The disciples haven't done. She uses a phrase, and this is based on rather a very offendable. Whether you talk about pets or not, somebody refers you as a canine, you wouldn't think this next phrase is coming, and I'm building this up for drama.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Because I think it is quite a statement. She says, yes, Lord. So she's already come to him out of her desperation. And now she refers him to something that everybody else can't seem to get. And if you realize... Unlike them, she believes he's the one. Look, unlike them, she seems to be the first person in the book of Mark that actually understands the parables. Because he just rips them in chapter 8.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yes, Lord, she replied. And it does show you that she's not offended. Would you agree with that? Correct. If she is, she sure didn't show it. And she gives him an answer that I think is the only time that you'll read to where Jesus, in response to how she interpreted the parable, he absolutely agrees with her. Like, good answer. Wouldn't that be cool if you give an answer to a riddle or a parable to the Lord?
Starting point is 00:20:28 And he's like, good, you got it. You got it. but even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs then he told her for such a reply you may go the demon has left her daughter she went home and found her child lying on the bed and the demon gone so i want to give you what i think the reason mark tells this story it is because and i made a little in the preacher world i made a little statement here this is the outsider looking in to Jesus. And I wrote this.
Starting point is 00:21:05 The reason I think Mark did this is because the people of that day, religious people, disciples, the world, everyone, they didn't like who God, Jesus, the Son of God, was for. They were uncomfortable, and I have a lot of evidence of that. Remember what was the big crime against Jesus? What are you doing eating with tax collectors and sinners? Why are you going over here? And, I mean, because look at this woman's credentials. She was a Phoenician.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And these people, look, they believed overall they were polytheists, you know, believe in multi-gods. They believed in magic. I mean, their pagan was the basically pagan religion is what they were into. her daughter had an unclean spirit. I mean, she was a woman. Because back here in those days, if you see a daughter with an unclean spirit,
Starting point is 00:22:08 they say, well, you're the problem. Yeah, you did some. You did something. I mean, she's just mathematically eliminated out of being anybody reputable. You certainly shouldn't be in her house. And you sure as heck shouldn't be trying to help her in any way. And so she was viewed as,
Starting point is 00:22:27 as unclean. And let me just make my point and then you respond. And what I'm saying is with all those credentials I just named about her, she had no right to approach a certain rabbi. Jesus was known as a rabbi. And they were deeming him as one with certain dignity about him because he was doing the miracle. But she had no right to even be approaching him.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And in fact, when you read Matthew's version, you know, at first he doesn't respond to her. And they're like, do you want us just to send her away because she was deemed unclean. That's why I came up with the slogan. Mark put this in here because people didn't like who Jesus was pursuing. He didn't like who he was eating with. So go ahead, Zach. Hang on before we do that, Zach. Let's take a break. So Lisa and I are out on the road quite a bit. And one of the main things that we speak on behalf of, the unborn, pro-life, a lot of different kinds of events, pregnancy center support.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And it's very important to all of us here on the Unashamed podcast. One of the groups that we love that's just been walking right alongside what we're trying to do is a group called 40 Days for Life. And these folks are wonderful, Sean, who's their CEO, has been on our podcast before. They've got a million volunteers in a thousand cities. They spend a lot of time in prayer, praying that women will make the choice. for life, and that's one of the greatest weapons that we have. They especially target states where obviously abortion is still legal, and you're still having a lot of abortions, and so they're really trying to break through and change hearts
Starting point is 00:24:07 and minds. So we join them in their fight, and we ask you to do the same thing. I want you to check out their locations where they are. Maybe consider volunteering to be a part of what they're doing. They've got a podcast. It's fantastic. They got a free magazine, and now you can get that at 40 Days for Life. And they'll keep you updated on this post row America.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So that's 40, 40 days for life.com. Check about. Yeah, I love that. And I was thinking, you know, one commentary I read said that the woman, that she, like, her entire approach to this thing was one, not, I don't want to say groveling, but it's like this appreciation. It's like a, it said that God's answer may have seemed like no. And when he says that about the dog.
Starting point is 00:25:01 but the deeper understanding of it is that it's actually a promise of yes. And you said that she got the parable. I think she did get the parable. And I think that we have a hard time interpreting the book of Romans a lot. There's a lot of controversy in the book of Romans a lot, probably the most controversial book in the Bible in terms of opposing views on it. But I think that what this woman's response here, when she says essentially saying when he says,
Starting point is 00:25:30 the dogs eat second. The dogs eat second. And she probably interpreted that as, are you saying I'm a dog? But she didn't care. She didn't care. She didn't care. That's the point because she's like,
Starting point is 00:25:45 because in her mind, she's thinking, hey, if I get the crumbs off your table, I'm good. I mean, I'm good with the crumbs. And it gives a glimpse into what this woman, how she was pursuing healing from the Lord.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Well, one, you recognize him as Lord. And two, there was a complete and utter just, you are king and you are sovereign, and it is all about you. So when you get to Romans and you go to Romans 9, which super controversial text in the Bible, I think we miss Romans 9 a lot because we don't read and really hone in on verse 3333. I'm going to read it to you because I think what we just read in Mark 7 is a new, it's a description of what Paul is talking about in Romans chapter 9, verse 30, when he says, what shall we say then? That the Gentiles, the Greeks, the woman who's in this story, who did not pursue righteousness,
Starting point is 00:26:45 she didn't have the law. She didn't have it. Attained righteousness, that the dog attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith. But Israel, pursuing a law of righteousness, did not arrive at that law. In verse 32, the question is, why? Why did the woman get it? Why does she get it?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Because they did not pursue it by faith, speaking of Israel, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone just as is written. And then it talks about this Old Testament quote of the coming of Christ. And my point is, or Paul's point I think he's making here, is the reason why this woman got it is because she was pursuing healing by faith and not by what she did. Jesus had just left the Pharisees, and it was all about their works. It was all about their keeping of the law. There are traditions that they called the law. They never kept the commandments, though, in faith. And Jesus exposed them, boom, now he's in Matthew chapter 7 with not even, they're not even Jewish people. He's in a, not, if a, if a, if a shadow of a Gentile can curse you
Starting point is 00:27:53 and make you unclean, rather, that how much more would you be made unclean by going into their house? And he's in the house of a Gentile, and you're seeing in Mark chapter 7, you are seeing a picture of what it means to pursue God by faith. This is what it looks like right here. No, I agree. I'll take the crumbs. No, I agree. And I just want to add one thing, though.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And the reason I don't think I didn't immediately go to, oh, it actually wasn't, you know, he was talking about puppies and warm and lovable pet. Now, I think, I don't agree with that. I think he did that because Jesus knew her heart. he knew she was unoffendable. And here's the point I want to make. And I agree with Zach on this. I wrote this down.
Starting point is 00:28:36 She is not saying, give me what I deserve based on my rights. Because Jesus knew her heart. But where is her request coming from? I'm going to tell you where it's coming from. Because when you think as a parent, when your daughter has an evil spirit, that's pain. it's coming from desperation and pain. That's the word desperation. It is.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And I wrote this quote from a movie. I mean, it was one of these little kids movies, but I wrote this down. And it was a quote in the movie. It said, life is pain. And anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something. And I like that quote because Jesus very, very blunt. which everyone would think was an offensive thing to say, but you've got to remember at the time and place where he was in his ministry, yes, he came here for all people. We know how this, where
Starting point is 00:29:40 this is going. But for some reason and somehow because of this woman's heart, based on her current circumstance, she had recognized Jesus' Lord. She had fast forwarded to the end of the game. What you call that? Quantum Leap. Yeah. And so she didn't say give me what I deserve based on my rights, She was saying, give me what I don't deserve based on your power and goodness. And that worked. And the fact that she wasn't offendable because you can't come to Jesus at a place of pride. Under your circumstance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And your accomplishments, which is why I think it was an offensive thing to say unless someone got the bigger picture. And we stumbled up on a woman who did get the bigger picture. and it's hard for us to wrap our head around because guess what? We're easily offendable. You know what I mean? And he was trying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And when she says, and when you, I love what you said there. When she, she didn't say, give me what I deserve and what I'm entitled to. And the reason why she didn't say that is because she was not one of God's children. She wasn't, she wasn't Israel. So, I mean, think about it. Like, think about the desperation. And the big picture is, is really that all of us have to come to God. that way, no matter what race you come from, we all have to come to God with that level of
Starting point is 00:31:01 it's the opposite of entitlement. And that's hard for us to see in our culture because we're so entitlements are such a big part of our DNA now. But I mean, that's not how you come to God. And the fact that it was her daughter, Jays, made it even more humbling to me. Well, look, the reason I'm bringing this insight, and y'all all probably know where I'm going with this. I mean, I have a daughter with special needs who has spent, you know, she hasn't gone six weeks in her life without seeing a doctor. And look, what I noticed in the pain that she's undergone and the stress of the whole situation, because it was worse when she was little, because here this come, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:37 Missy and I didn't, we couldn't anticipate what was fixed to happen. Now, granted, these were physical things, not a demon-possessed girl, but all this physical trauma. But I noticed something about myself in all those meetings with all these doctors, because some of these doctors early on in this. this, we're so pompous and we're so offensive in some of the things they said. But you know what I learned about myself and Missy? We were unoffendable.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yep. Because we're like, I don't care if you're the biggest jerk on the planet. If you can help my doctor. Your daughter. I mean, yeah, if you can help my, my daughter, you're going to be our doctor. Yeah. Because we had one who's no longer with us. He's gone on to the next stage.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But, you know, I just remember, I just. not stand this guy. I mean, every time I would have a conversation with him, I thought, this has got to be one of the most pompous, arrogant human beings. It was almost like he had a God complex. But guess what? He was the best at fixing craniofacial issues on kids. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Oh, I was buddies with him, you know? I'll listen to your weird ideas on life. I was literally unoffendable. I just laid down all my trophies at his feet. And so when I read this, that's what hit me on that because when I read all why people feel this was offensive, I thought, no, you got to remember the, we're not addressing the attitude and the pain that this woman was making this request. And it made her have a clear understanding who Jesus was. And look, the light switch for me didn't come on till she's. said yes lord she knew he had the power that's right and i think she got it that at this stage
Starting point is 00:33:28 okay he's god chose to work through israel to to bring about this king she had put all the pieces together even to understanding the the principle but she knew they had a seat at the table they may view me as a dog which they did yeah what are you doing with this unclean woman she's a dog she knew but she knew jesus loved loved everyone and she just got it before it was time to get it. I don't know why that is so hard to get. Hang on, Zay. Let's take a break. Here's the incredible part about this.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I love this because so she's coming to Jesus at this point, recognizing, yeah, I'm a dog. I'll take the crumbs and be completely ecstatic about that. What she didn't probably understand was this prophecy here in Isaiah chapter 25. Listen to this prophecy. Isaiah 256. On this mountain, the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast
Starting point is 00:34:33 of rich food, a feast of well-aged wine, of rich food full of marrow, of aged wine, well refined. She came for the crumbs and was elated that she was going to get the crumbs. She had no concept that her lord was about to invite her into a full feast
Starting point is 00:34:52 at his table. And that, think that's the beauty of this whole story. She had no, just like Abraham. Abraham believed God that was credited him as righteous. He didn't have a clue at how big that promise was going to unfold. He didn't understand that all this is, all this, even this, the scripture here in Mark 7 is a, is a, it's an advancement of that of God fulfilling that promise to include the Gentiles
Starting point is 00:35:13 into this. But I mean, God's promises are always, we come to God as beggars, but God treats us as signs. And I think that's the, that's the profound part here. We come as a beggar, but God receives us as sons and heirs and fellow heirs of Christ. That's what, to me, is so powerful about this. Well, plus, I think one of the things, this is showing Jesus, because he did the same thing, if you think about it in John 4 with the woman at the well. I mean, he entered in a setting that really she didn't deserve a conversation with him as a Jewish man.
Starting point is 00:35:46 In the Samaritan case, it's a mix. She said, he's reading my mind. I need to listen to him. And remember what she said at the end, he's told me everything I've ever done. So, I mean, she jumped all the way ahead. But it was the same thing. I think he does these things like this because I think he was teaching a lesson, too, to the disciples. They had to stay on task for what they were supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:36:08 See, the Gentiles wouldn't come in as a whole until you get to Acts chapter 10, which is years after the day of Pentecost. So he's keeping them on task about what they're supposed to do. But he's planting a seed here. Same thing you did about the ceremonial foods. he's planting a seed that one day, this is going to be just what Zach described in Isaiah, you're going to see this picture because he made the same type
Starting point is 00:36:28 mention to the woman at the well, Zach. Remember what he said on this mountain? You know, all this is, it's not going to be in Jerusalem or Samaria. It's going to be everywhere. You have the opportunity. So I think he's just planting seeds is what he's doing. Well, he is. And look, we always do this.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But I think just when you look at our culture about how everybody, you know, wants their rights and everybody wants to divide. and I mean from a worldly standpoint, divide everybody down into groups, and then we all got to figure out how we're going to respect all these different groups and everybody's rights can be met, which comes from a totally different place than what we're discussing. We always fast forward, and I'm going to read you two passages. This is 1st Corinthians 12, 13. Now, I am fast forwarding, but I'm saying I think she got this at our early stage.
Starting point is 00:37:20 we were all baptized by one spirit into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free. We're all given the one spirit to drink. And then Galatians 3, 26, and 27 and 28, you're all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you are baptized into Christ, have closed yourself with Christ.
Starting point is 00:37:41 There's neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And so my point is, they had the same problem in their culture as we have in this culture. It was like, who do you think you are? I mean, you know, why was this not a deal breaker? But I told you her credentials, well, none of them met to where she could even be saved. And in a great way of looking at it is when she went home, she finds her daughter lying on the bed and the demon gone.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Yeah. And that reinforced her, Lord. Exactly. You know what she thought? She saw that bed. She thought God is for me. She thought she was fixing to hear all this demonic stuff coming out of her daughter, and she looked there, and she found that the demon was gone.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Did she make a great point that I thought the same thing, Dad? You know, every time Jesus would do a miracle, I mean what the people would say are the Pharisees. Sometimes he'd say, show us another side. Show us another side. You know what she did? He said your request is granted. She hit the road.
Starting point is 00:38:50 That's it. She didn't ask for anything else. She left there confidently. She, in her mind, she said my daughter was going to be okay. She knew. Yeah. She knew even before she got there. That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Just like the woman at the well, she said she left her water pot. She came there to get water. Yeah. Once Jesus did, she left the water pot behind. She forgot about the water pot. And she moves back to the city. I mean, she's trucking back to the city to say, come meet the man who told me everything I've ever done. I don't need H2O now.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I found the living water. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about this. I found this Psalm that relates to this. That's so powerful that if you're listening today and you're like, man, you know, you think about we don't know what I'm going through it. Because a lot of people read this like, man, my life's tough. Like I get, I'm in a spiritual wilderness or I'm in a, I'm in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And we've all been there different times in our life, you know. But I read this, you think, man, how can God invite me to eat at his table? How can I eat? How can God prepare a table in my life when, because you don't know what's going on in my life. And I read this Psalm and it really spoke to me. God spoke, they spoke against God, basically asking God, can God spread a table in the wilderness? And the answer is, yeah, yeah. He can spread a feast, a table in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:40:08 God invites you in Luke chapter 22. And I assign to you as my father. assigned to me a kingdom that you may eat and drink at my table. You may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones and judging the 12 tribes of Israel. And so God is including his disciples, which further down the road, includes us as disciples. We are invited into this wedding feast of the Lamb. We are being invited to participate in the greatest feast of all feasts that have ever, in all time and throughout all of history and eternity, we're being invited in.
Starting point is 00:40:46 This woman in this story in March 7 is invited in to participate in the feast that God's going to provide the table that he's going to spread out. That fires me up. So I wanted to say this. So I have, Al, this is for your sermon. So I have in Mark 7 the first story about the washing the hands, but it's in the spirit. So the people of Jesus' day didn't like where. They didn't like where God would.
Starting point is 00:41:21 What is the word I'm looking for? I feel the duty of a priest. Yeah. They didn't like where, which would be in the heart, not on the outside. It'd be on the inside. They didn't like the spiritual. They didn't like where this kingdom transformation would occur. or however you want to put that.
Starting point is 00:41:40 They didn't like who would be welcomed in to the kingdom because here we have her credentials. None of them met. And then, so when we get to the next story, which is the healing of the deaf and viewed man, they didn't like how he was going to do it. And in all cases, these were all viewed as unclean. I mean, they were making it about,
Starting point is 00:42:07 oh, you're not following the rules. rules of washing their hands. Which was a bigger deal to them than any of this other stuff, which shows you a lot about where they were. Hang on, Jess. Let's take her last break. So then this story, they're like, you're associating with unclean people. I mean, this woman, you need to get way away from her.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Well, then I think it's fascinating when he gets to this next story, and we can save that for, you know, an entire podcast if we won't. I mean, he literally does something that's gross. I mean, he sticks his physical fingers in a guy's ears. He spits on the ground, makes the mud, and physically takes his finger and touches another man's tongue with spit and mud. Well, religious people, they're not going to like this. I mean, just do that in a Sunday morning service. Just say, what are y'all, I need a volunteer.
Starting point is 00:43:12 We're going to reenact a story that we treasure in the Bible. We're going to reenact it. I need a volunteer. Now, before you come down front and front all these people, I'm going to stick my fingers in your ears. I'm going to spit on the ground. I'm going to take the mud pie that we assemble, and I'm going to touch your tongue.
Starting point is 00:43:36 How many people do you think would volunteer for that? I don't think I would. Well, I wouldn't, and I'm not. one making a big deal about this. By the way, the audience of that day, people were amazed and overwhelmed with amazement. The spit trick worked. Well, right. But I'm just saying people, even today, they have a narrative of what Jesus is like or what he should be.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And back in their day, they had the same narrative. and I think it was more about this physical kingdom that would kill other nations. And so here Jesus comes. He's focused on the spirit, the character, instead of how much you work out and how good a soldier you could be. I mean, that's why they got all fired up about, oh, he has the ability to create food. I mean, just think how important that is to an army.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's right. I mean, if you have this power and, because that was a big way, Because you remember their response. You remember their response? They said they, he left them because he knew they wanted to make him a king by force. Well, I know. That's what I was going to bring up. But, you know, how many times would they circle around?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like, if you built a fortress in wartime there, and, well, they would just. Seed. Yeah, they would siege you and starve you out. Well, he just, he just took that. If you could build, all we need to do now is build this fortress and because we could never run out of food. I mean, I can literally. reproduce it. So in their mind, they think, oh, he's a messian and Lord. So then he comes down, he starts talking about the character of a person is more important. That's, that's the play.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'm more worried about what's coming out from your heart. And now I'm going off here to spend some alone time and I'm associating with people, just like the Samaritan woman. It's, it's another different story here. And he does something that just their life, I mean, it defies in their mind. which is why people continually left him, you know. And then you're going to use things that are physically detestable, especially in our COVID fear society. And a lot of people would read that. If this is the first story you read now with COVID and germs and all this,
Starting point is 00:45:57 you're like, oh, I'm out on this. I don't want to. Well, I was thinking that when you said they had a flawed view of God or they had this perception of who God was supposed to be in our mind, and I read this down when you said that, that they had a view of God that was based on their own righteousness, or at least what they perceived to be their own righteousness, which was based on a flawed premise that they had it together.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And that's why they were offendable. That's why the Pharisees were very offendable. They were offendable because they actually thought they were occupying a position that they really weren't occupying. And so when somebody comes in and threatens that position says, you're not that good, well, if you think you're good and somebody says, no, you're not good, then you get offended it. But if you think that you're not good and someone says you're not good, then you're like,
Starting point is 00:46:44 well, yeah, I already knew that. You're not offendable. So the way that you become not offendable is to admit that you're a sinner. I mean, that's a big chunk of the Bible is just getting us to see. Well, that's why when you're right, that when you approach Christ in this case, or you approach God without faith, that's what happens. You remember what he told of the Pharisees and John 8 and a lot of those that were following him? He said, your father is the devil. And I think the reason why, you mentioned about that feast in the wilderness day.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And when you said that, it took me back to when Satan was tempting Jesus. Remember, and he was in the wilderness? He hadn't eaten for 40 days. You remember what Satan said, if you are the son of God, this Matthew 4, tell these stones to become bread. So that's demonic. He's saying, you proved to me. You're hungry. I know you're hungry.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And you remember what Jesus said? It is written. Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. when you approach Jesus without faith, you're being a puppet of the other side because there's good and evil here. There's Satan and there's God. So I think this woman showed you, and Jason's right, in her desperation, she believed. And so she doesn't come up and start dictating policy.
Starting point is 00:47:55 She had no leverage, no power, no credentials. Her greatest quality was a reliance or trust in the power of Jesus. Well, if that's not what our whole lives are about, that's true. that's how I tell the story. That's exactly right. Yeah. Let me read this real quick. I want to read this for you in here.
Starting point is 00:48:15 This is the rest of that passage out of Psalms. You know, where were you at in time? I was going to. Psalm 78. Just think about this in light of how Jay set the whole thing up. It says in the daytime, he led them with a cloud and at night with a fiery light. He split rocks in the wilderness, and he gave them drink abundantly as from the deep. He made streams.
Starting point is 00:48:38 come out of the rock and cause waters to flow down like rivers. I think about it. That's a big picture of who this God is. Yet, they sin still more against him, rebelling against the God most high in the desert. They tested God in their heart by demanding the food they crave. This is that entitlement that Jason was talking about. They spoke against God saying, can God spread a table in the wilderness? And then the answer in verse 20 is, well, yeah, he struck the rock so that water gushed out
Starting point is 00:49:07 and streams overflowed. Well, can he also give bread and provide meat for his people? I'm like, yeah, he dropped it out of the sky for crying out loud. Yeah, of course he can't. And it says, therefore, when God heard this, he was full of wrath. A fire was kindled against Jacob, and his anger rose against Israel because they did not believe in God and did not trust in his saving power. Yet he commanded the skies above the open and the doors of heaven, and he rained down
Starting point is 00:49:33 on them manna to eat and gave them grain, all the things. God did for us or did for the Israelites when they left Egypt. And I just think, man, it's like the same pattern over and over and over again. God's like, don't be those kind of people that demand food that I'm already giving you abundantly. Like, be like this woman. It says, I'll take the crumbs and you'll get in excess if you come to me in that way. That's why I brought up that. Look, God doesn't sugarcoat anything.
Starting point is 00:50:03 And all these guys that put their faith and trust in Jesus, it was, It was not happy endings. All these guys were martyred, and this was a rough road. And that's why when they sent them out, they didn't have all these amenities of life. Even some of the Psalms, you know, they don't have happy endings. I mean, God was being very real. He's not trying to sell us something, which is the difference in false religion and what God is representing in Jesus.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I mean, he's being real. It's not about this life. He has a purpose for us, and there's a lot of pain, and there's a lot of difficulty. But that puts our attitude in the proper place it should be that we have no credentials and we're relying on God's power. And we know, once you experience Jesus, we know that the plan is, oh, it will be.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It will be right. That's why it's not prosperity gospel in this life because he said, he promised us, is you know what you're going to get treated like? Like they treated me. So that's what you're guarantee is. All right. we're out of time. Jay, so you have three-point sermon that I wrote down.
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