Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 576 | How Phil Survived the Ice Age of 1969

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

Phil recalls reading an article about the looming ice age that would blanket the earth in snow and how people on the news were talking about building igloos. Jase says Phil has planted so many trees that he has offset the carbon for himself and all his sons! Phil tells the story of a 1000-year-old tree that was burned down by the government — and he shed a tear because it represented the end of an era for him. And Jase jokes about his research into animals licking their wounds. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're back Unashamed podcast, and we're in the book of Mark. It was really, I walked outside this morning. For the first time this year, I mean, I guess going back to first time since the summer, crisp and cool. I mean, it was 40 degrees. I know.

What I found fascinating is I'm not a weather man. And I don't think anybody else is either. Dad, you consider yourself a bit of a... I was pausing for effect. Even weathermen are not weathermen. They just said they were a weatherman. But most of the times when I've seen this drastic change in temperature, because just a couple days ago, it was over 90 degrees.

That's right. I mean, I was in a cutover, just sweated. long story of what I was doing there. But, and then two days later, it's 40. You spend a lot of time and cut over, Jay's? I have been known to. I'll tell you what, watch where you step. So then it goes to 40, but what I found fascinating was there was no rain in between.

Usually when it goes from 90 to 40 in a couple days, there's a big rainstorm. Zero rain. I went to bed last night. It was 65, 70 degrees. That's the same thing. I woke up this morning. It was 40 and windy. See, the weather channel, if you listen to them,

they don't like what they just saw. No. This temperature dropped in October. They got to looking back the last time this thing got, you know, they said in the morning it's going to be 31 degrees. Well, 301. And Phil had an interesting point. That does not fit the narrative they've been on.

They said, wait a minute, this is going to break records all up to the United States. It's going to break all these records on how cold it can get. They don't like that. Well, it was, it was. Everything is supposed to be heating up. It goes against the warming. Well, but it was hotter than normal the past three or four months. But you had an interesting point before you got here.

We were wondering if we were just going to start this without you out. Phil said that... The Chick-fil-A line was long. He said he remembered seeing an article one time when he was... I mean, he went back 50 years. The 60s, late 60s. Phil said, I remember reading an article that an Ice Age was imminent. It was the cover of Time magazine.

And our man behind the glass here, the invisible glass, he found it and pulled it. up there for us to see. So you saw that cover? Oh, wow, it was in big red letters. Ice Age. Eminent. I remembered it, and I don't remember that well, but I remember that it said imminent, meaning

and there were people on the news and stuff saying, you know, you must learn how to build igloos because that's going to be the only way. People started building igloo. Can you imagine all the clothing was flying off the shelves and people were getting warm boots because that's what we do. It was the current people who, the scientists, their children had the thing burning up. I mean, had it locking up for ice. Ice age.

It's ice age. It's going to be with us for years and years. Well, their siblings are saying, this thing is fixing to burn up. I mean, in a 40-year period, I mean, it went from, we're all going to freeze the death, so we're all going to burn our butts off. And I said, you know, The polar ice caps are melting. We're all going to flood.

Yeah. It just flip-flops in a 30-year period. There's some verses about focusing on the creation rather than the creator. There are. And I think that's it because people, you know, we'll get, there'll be everyone's when we talk about stuff like this, somebody will send the thing and say, well, you, y'all just, I mean, these things are scientific and y'all are just like it's not that big of a deal. And we're like, no, it's just that when you trust a creator, weather changes, weather patterns change. It's cold for, I mean, when you look back, I mean, there's been times where it was frozen. And really, they're trying to come up with ways that they can, at least they're claiming it now, that they can do things to make the weather better.

That's a major task that I have not seen that work. It takes us more money, Dad. Yeah. We need more money. I think they say now if you plant, I think it was a, is it three million, maybe a three billion? I don't remember if it was a billion or a million. But somebody said if we planted that many trees that it would cool down. Oh, yeah.

And it may be true. I mean, I'm all for trees. Well, they can't fault me because I planted many thousands of trees. I'll show you the trees. You were green before green was cool. Plant trees. I've been planting them, you know, for the last 30 years. I planted a lot of trees.

Well, I mean, you can't read the Bible without believing. Oh, I was glad to see it. That's why I looked up yesterday and they said, they said, it's going to be 31 degrees. I said, boy, if I planted them trees, they don't tell them what it would be. You can't read the Bible without having to believe in global warming, though. Yeah, because there, it is coming. Yeah. I mean,

Oh, if it's a sign, okay, you wanted your sign? There it is. I mean, now read, read the Bible and make necessary preparation. Yeah. I mean. Well, it really is. I just think believers have a different take. And look, I mean, you said it there.

I'm all about conservation. We have land. Yep. You work it. We, you've cared for it. We've cared for it. We planted trees. We love habitat.

We love wildlife. I mean, we love fisheries. I mean, I'm all for it. I'm for clean rivers. I hate pollution. I mean, so, I feel like we're on the same page. It's just that we believe in a creator. And apparently these people think,

when I was fishing 25 years ago, 30 out there on the river, fishing for a living, I had to fish around all that stuff they were, the paper mill was just dumping that old black water. into the river. When they would do that, they would do it periodically. They'd wait, you know, once a month or whatever. They had opened the valves, and here comes all that old black sink and water. Remember I had stuff?

Oh, yeah, it's terrible. You could smell that paper mill from right here 20 miles away. Right. I got bad news. It wasn't a million and it wasn't a billion. One trillion trees need to be planted. We got a lot of work to do. To reduce climate change, which is.

the equivalent of 640 trees per person on the planet. Well, that's a lofty go. This really went off the rails into depression. No wonder everybody's angry of blowing their horn. Every person on the planet has to grow 640 trees. No, you're good. You're good. You're good.

And you actually made up for mine and else. I've done a lot of fast-growing trees. My two chosen trees, you know, they got the fast growing up. We have that sponsor. The sponsor, yeah. But the two fastest growing ones that we have that we planted are willow and cypress, ball cypress. Ball cypress, it used to be way more cypress trees, and they used it for so many functions. They cut a lot.

They raped and pillaged cypress trees. A lot of times, they just bulldoze them up and just smooth. that the land where they could farm it, you know, but I'm not knocking the farmers. I'm just saying, you know, a lot of trees bit to death when we decided to, you know, just, just, I mean, just obliterate hundreds of hours. I do find it interesting that most of the thought process of these movements that come along come out of big cities, think tanks, you know, groups of people, but the people that actually live out where you can actually do something about it, seemed to be pretty conservation-minded. You know, when you're in a, you're in a

high-rise surrounding more high-rises, you know what happened for that city to get there? Somebody cut a lot of trees. Oh, yeah. You know, this, so I'm, what I'm saying is, you know, it's interesting who really kind of does the heavy lifting. A water elm does not get that big, but I've seen whole blocks out there when we began to flood at certain areas for duck, ducks that button willow they go berserk button willows it's a it's not more than a tall bush and a it's loaded with little seeds you know but button willers they they're they will take over to play so fast it'll make your head swim and water elm what used to be like hardwood died off where the water was a lot of water a lot of times duck hunters getting water over and you know flooding woods

but the old water elm and the buttonwoolah I've seen the landscape just change over but we do all our planning on behalf of our faith in the almighty you know if you bush hog a piece of landscape you do it in August and it kills the coffee beans and undesirables but all the duck food plants

you know you know smart weed sprangled top, all these duck feeds. They love to eat. Oh, the Almighty will put them out there, you know. And I mean, he just, but you got a bush hog in August. The button willers won't come. I mean, the button willers won't come back as fast.

All these plants undesirable, they won't come out there. Coffee beans, things, ducks don't eat. They won't be there. It'll be a food supply from the Almighty. He does the best planting job than going by and seed and us planting it. He does a way better job. Just let him, let him work. Well, you know, we talked about that.

Remember, it was a parable? Was it a parable that or just when Jesus made an observation that, you know, you go out and you put the seed in the ground and then you go get in the bed. No, we just went through that. You don't realize what's happening. I mean, he made a point about that. Yeah. That you're taking for granted.

And so of these, I mean, I was, if you want some entertainment, go read these message boards on about. I mean, what I got into here, it's hilarious. Because people have different. different opinions because they're like, no, I think if we did $8 billion a year for 20 years. Now, that wouldn't solve the problem, but at least it would be a step in the right direction.

I thought to myself, that's a giant step. But then somebody said, but what about the trees that are already hit? Well, you've got to protect all them too. Yeah, because you can't lose one. After a while, this is going to be what you're asking to do. And look, people, this is a religion to people.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I get it. What's your line from your speech? Trees aren't to be hugged. People are. Exactly. Trees don't need hugs. I mean, they, you know, they are valuable and we need them and we use them.

But you're trying to, when you don't have a focus on the creator, you're coming up with different strategies and ways to extend this earth. And it's just not, it seems kind of. silly if you step well we just went through this with the pandemic too it's interesting when people talk about science because it's almost like well this is we said this so therefore this is science now this is everything is based off of this but then we know that in science you're supposed to like challenge theories constantly and continue to see if the theory is true and to your point that 60 years ago it was a nice age yeah and a very interesting little text when everybody says you know where's this

Jesus, y'all, you know, everything it goes on like it always had, you actually think y'all are standing around and doing these studies in the Bible, and you actually believe there's a Jesus coming back. You know what the cosmos, you know, referred to? By this same word, these people forget the earth was formed out of water and with water. Our scientists today say, no, not true. So they don't believe that. By water also, the world at that time was delused and destroyed. They said, nope, Noah's Ark, no, is all that stuff. Nope.

That didn't happen. But watch how this is worded. By the same word, the present heavens, that would be the ones we're living under right now and earth. Here's the way it's reached are reserved for a fire. It's not like they're sitting there and are they going to escape. said they're reserved for fire. There won't be water next time. It'll be fire.

Well, to Jason's point, there's a lot of scientists who have studied it, and they do believe there was a flood. It's going to get hot one day. I mean, there's no doubt that's coming. Yep. I think the sound of us. That right there, reserve for fire, that's what these people are hot on about. They said, that's, we don't.

And the Bible says, you're not going to be able to stop it. It's reserved for fire. and it's going to burn up. That's why I think all the elements will melt in the heat. I mean, you know, so look, you better look at what kind of people we should be. Well, I think spiritually you better be prepared more than anything, more than a tree and trees. Let's take it. That's Second Peter, by the way.

Read the last chapter and second Peter. Last chapter and second Peter. Let's take a break. Now that passage you were referring to was what we studied earlier, Mark 4, 26, when he said, The kingdom, what is the kingdom like? A man scatter seed on the ground. Night and day, whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not know how. We still haven't figured that out.

No. Besides a creator with intellect. Right. You're right. The process, they talk about duplicating a lot of stuff, you know, science. but the process they can't figure that one out I mean it's

without a creator without a designer it's hard to figure that one out you know we didn't come up with that it's an amazing thing when we put seed on the ground over there and you wait

and you've had the fertilizer and it'll be a little shower and three or four days you look and what you planted which was so small I mean, you look at it, and it just goes to have it before you stop planting it. But like all those food plots for deer and all of the stone and them plant, you just look up, and it's the prettiest thing you've ever seen,

they just burst out of the earth. I mean, it's, I look at little old seedlings that come out of the ground, little bitty cypress seedy that planted itself. And I'm looking at them, and I said, boy, there's cypress trees coming up out here. Well, you go by there the next year, about a year, and you look, and they're about eight inches to a foot tall. I'm like, and they're a slow-growing tree, you know, relatively speaking. But I've got cypress trees now that I stop a four-wheeler in its tracks. I mean, I planted them, but when I'm looking at them, I'm like, good night.

And I characterize it as raw power. See just coming out of the ground into whatever it's going to make. and I mean there's no stopping. If you just get back out of the way, leave it alone. It grows day and night, and I mean, vines try to stop it and the tickets try to crowd it out, but it just keeps coming through and ends up. Majestic.

Beautiful cypress trees. So your great, great-grandchildren, long after we're all, you know, waiting for the Lord to come back, they'll go by there and it's just the big, beautiful cypress. Maulst Lake, when we were up in Washington, I got in the rig with the fellow duck hunters, and we all went tearing off down through the woods and got out there. We got to this little lake, and everybody looked around and said,

you know, we need to put a blind in here somewhere, you know. There were some old boards over in the bushes over and the buttonwlers over. And I was the one who said, see that cypress tree right down there? I said, it's on the edge of them buttonwills, on the edge of the hole. I said, that's probably, I guessed at it, but I was. pretty close. A 1,000-year-old Cyprus. It wasn't 200 years, though. This thing was massive, huge thing. And it's still there, by the way. Well, the feds burn it after we left. That was one of the, I call it, we had our duck blind up in that tree, about 15, 18 feet above

the water. So we hunted there for about six, seven years. But it was an old cypress tree. they went out there the government did when they bought it the first thing they did they looked at that duck line they burn it to the water line burn it down that old tree the guy that burned it said it like to burn him up because he he lit it when he was up in the blind he lit it but it was hollow

so when that it's just like a furnace and he had to bail out jump out and moss leg there or keep him burning up That's right. Well, that was probably his penance for burning that tree. It'd been a lot better just to tear that blind out, I would think. I saw that stump after they burned that tree where we had been up in it, a thousand-year-old cypress tree.

Jay's and I were kids. Yeah. That was where we first stuck in. And when they burned that, I cried. Yep. I'd looked at the old blind all them time. We'd been up in there, you know. It was a passing, in my opinion, it was the passing of an era.

Yeah. And like you said, even the just destruction of it when you didn't have to. Human beings. Yeah, that was the government. Yeah. I mean, the same one said, we need a trillion trees. We burned down a thousand-year-old one. Oh, yeah.

No, it was sad. Yeah, that was a lot of history. Stump. It's still there to this day. Yeah. Still sitting there. You could probably go right to it. Oh, I could lead you right to it, go out and show it to you.

Yep. I mean, when they burn it, I went out there and look. You hadn't been up there in 30 years. I can take it to it and the stump will still be there. That's how stout these things are. I mean, just the stump. That's been 25, 30 years ago, but that stump is still here. It's pretty amazing.

It takes a long time for one of them cypress tree to disappear, a long time. It does. Well, to get us back to Mark, we, I thought about this, Jason, we were talking about the creation and the creator. There was a Jesus right in the middle of all this. that we've been studying. When he walked on water, I always felt like that was kind of one of those little scenes that he gives them where he's in control of nature

and everything else. Because you look back through the course of the Bible, and you see that God has always been able to use nature for a lot of different reasons and purposes. And so he called that storm right in the midst of all this other. There's probably just another way of showing him that he was in charge, even though they had a hard time grabbing it. And right after that is when we got into this seven,

March 7, which has led us into this idea of what's clean and unclean. And it's almost like it's taken, you know, we were talking before we started rolling today about repetition. And that's really kind of what this whole section is about when you say, it's just like repetition. It's like that's why we had the double feeding stories in here because they're trying to, he's trying to get a point across. Well, mainly to his disciples, they're just not getting it.

I mean, you know, we had fast forwarded through chapter eight because I think it, helped us understand why he was doing some of these things. But, I mean, he basically interrogates his disciples in verse 17 of chapter 8 when he says, why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand, are your hearts hardened? Do you have eyes but fail to see and ears but fail to hear? And don't you remember when I broke the five lows and all the extra that you picked up? So, you know, he had just warned them right before that to not have the yeast of the Pharisees.

And so in Chapter 7, you have this example where he's confronted because the disciples didn't wash their hands. And it wasn't, we went through that in detail. It wasn't just a, that was a big thing. There was, it wasn't the, you know, wash your hands for 20 seconds during COVID. there were rules and books and books and books on how you were... And I don't need to take that on, but then he basically makes a proclamation that would have blown everybody's mind. It was a watershed moment because he says all food is clean.

And this was a huge paradigm shift for these people. I mean, that's, you know, that... And I think his underlying point was saying that all people also can be clean. Right. And so that's why I think that led to him going to where the Greeks hang out in this tire that we talked about last time when he left there. And he is approached by this woman who was a Greek. She was born in Syrian, Phoenicia. She begged Jesus.

And when you read Matthew 15's version, we didn't bring up a couple points here. but Jesus actually ignored her at first. Right. And we talked about this as being offendable. I mean, he and the disciples were like, you want us to get rid of her. Yeah, she's getting on her nerves. When you started thinking about this,

she was offended or should have been in every possible way. Jesus ignored her. Jesus is closest followers to put this in a practical way. I mean, this is like the preacher ignoring you, the church saying you don't belong you don't belong some people just don't belong then she's called a dog and we talked about that pet dog or not puppy or not oh so much the technical issue i never heard that particular it's getting close to what we just had Halloween maybe you know what's interesting about while we're on the trees no we're left the trees yeah

That's the way. I just want to bring out this point. I mean, it started out you had the tree of life. I mean, and first before you get to the tree of life, you start out with a tree that you are not to eat from at all. That's true. And it's interesting that we are called, God's people, the kingdom of God.

We're called they have the right to the tree of life. Yeah. This tree of life, tree of life. It bears fruit year round. And you even see the restoration idea of it in Revelation. We're said to be a tree. And Galatians. It all started with a tree that you don't want to touch.

It's just interesting. I think we're the branches, you know, is what Jesus said, John 15. But he also, you know, Galatians passage says, cursed as everyone hung on a tree. He was hung on a dead tree so that we could live. Yeah. Which is interesting point. Let's take a break.

So back to this woman. And so she's, I mean, the whole thing, and I think when you look at our culture, we're living in a culture where everyone is offended at the drop of a hat. And I don't know any other way to make sense of this other than I had brought up the point that she wasn't offended because the love of her daughter made her unoffendable. And you remember I talked about, you know, experiencing that. And so I just think this is in here for a reason. But I think Jesus clearly portrayed that you're going to have to get over insults and being ignored and name calling. Yeah, I mean, just this was part of it. And because his timing of this was when he said that even the dogs,

I mean, when he said, for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dog. Well, Matthew 15, he kind of clarifies that in 24. He says, I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. And the woman came and knelt before him. This is Matthew 15, 25. Lord, help me, she said. And he's like, it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs. Yes, Lord.

You notice how she keeps referring to him as Lord three different times. From her knees. In Matthew 15, it was the first, I mean, Lord, Lord, Lord. And on the third time, when she said Lord, even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table. I mean, this is a powerful story. And the reason we're revisiting it is because you got to realize that, if you're going to try to go on your credentials or your leverage or your good deeds or your justification to have salvation, you're never. ever going to make it. Right. Or your background, whatever you tie it to, you know, I've traditional, the

British, their background, they try to bring, just swing this into motion. You can't do it. Well, remember for 2,000 years, the mindset was you were born in a certain tribe. That gave you a certain amount of authority, there's certain rights, whatever. That's right. And so they saw it almost as you're right. I deserve this. That's right. And stories like this, to use our tree analogy, I think Jesus is, planting seeds in the hearts of his future followers as they take it on their own, that look, this is for everybody. I mean, ultimately, this is for everybody.

So it was interesting that Jesus held his ground first, Jays, because he did come for Israel first. I mean, he was the Messiah of Israel. And so he starts out, you know, by just ignoring her. But then her faith breaks through. I mean, you know your wife, what happens? I mean, then he called her one. woman at the I mean it's like every possible thing you didn't use her name or right it's like every way but she was unoffendable which is the point we brought up because of her love and desperation for her

daughter and that that's what I wanted to bring up is that even though love is not mentioned you know there's a lot about faith here being being acquired you know love God is love And that was, I think, an undercurrent to what was going on here. He was showing the love of God to all people, no matter where they, where they're from, what their condition was. So you fast forward it because you think, you know, when he chose them and gave them these miraculous powers, that didn't translate into them understanding who he was. They were excluded from citizenship.

in Israel, which is where this woman was too, and foreigners to the covenants of the promise without hope, without God in the world. But now, in Christ Jesus, you have, you who were once far away, if you weren't a Jew, have been brought near through the blood of Christ. He himself is our peace. He's made the two, one. what the argument was with this woman, between her and the Jewish hierarchy, had as destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility.

This is for us, the Jews said, and the Gentiles, they're out. But Jesus came, he abolished in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create, in himself, Jew or Gentile, one new man out of the two, thus making peace,

and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross by which he put to death their hostility. It's pretty interesting read. That's Ephesians chapter two, but that's how the two were brought together. But you see the trouble that caused with a woman like that. Right. She wasn't one of them.

That's right. All right. And I think that's what I was going to bring up in 1st, Corinthians 13, you know, probably the second or third most known passage in the Bible. They had it. You could, you would never be one of us. Right. It says if I speak in tongues of men and of angels but have not love, I'm only a resounding

gong or a clanging symbol. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge and have a faith that can move mountains but have not love, I'm nothing. If I give all I possessing. to the poor, which, you know, we're going to get to the rich young ruler here in a couple chapters, and surrender my body to the flames, which these, all these men would, would die. But it says, but have not love, I gain nothing. You know, and then he defines what love is.

Well, he's showing these qualities in his life because they were like, hey, you want us to get rid of her. Since he was not paying attention, they're like, oh, let us come in and be your, you know, henchmen. Yeah, your henchman. She was not part of the intelligentsia. Well, she had absolutely zero credentials. And it's a pattern that you keep seeing.

Even that I thought about when you fast forward to the end of the book, which we will get there. Do you know that the only group of disciples that saw him die, be buried and be raised, was a little tiny group of women that saw all three. That's right. And so when you think about, you think, well, why is that significant? Well, it's significant because if you were just trying to make up a story, they didn't even have any credibility or credentials or couldn't be a witness. They couldn't give testimony.

That's right. So why, if you were trying to trick somebody, you wouldn't pick the group of women to be the only ones that witnessed each part. of that what we refer to as the gospel. And so I found that significant, but I also find it incredible that it just shows you that God views everyone as equally important. And that's, you know, the reason he told when you look at the burial of Jesus, we had two men, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus.

Well, men didn't do that because that was a servant or a woman's job. Right. So here are these guys. Now, they come in there and do something very humbling. And the only reason for it was an act of love. It was kind of a tender thing. I don't know. That just kind of hit me when I thought about that.

It's Jesus changes the narrative on who seems to be important. And the best, that's why, you know, a chapter from now when they're arguing about who's going to be the greatest, well, they're missing this. They're missing it because, like all people do, if you have the, if God uses the spirit to do wonderful things and mighty things, and all of a sudden, you start saying, oh, well, I must be something. That must be a big deal. That's what naturally and spiritually. And nobody was putting womanhood, women in general. They were being persecuted from the time they came out of the womb. Exactly.

They were females. Yep. And then this is a story of one. All these people that's talking about women's rights and all that, they need to read their Bible. Well, exactly. There's never been a more champion for women than Jesus, and basically what I just laid out. That is correct.

Let's take a break. But it also is why the widow thing is such a big deal, because there was nobody to take care of it. If you wound up a widow without a child, mainly a son, to take care of you, you're hosed. There's no little home for the widows. They were grossly mistreated. Yeah.

But I thought we needed to go down that road just because this next story is so, I think, difficult to say what? Now, what is going? What? This is not a, there's zero sermons I could find about this paragraph. But I'll read it. Yeah, read it. It says in 31 of Mark 7, where we're at, then Jesus left.

the vicinity of Tyre and went through Sadan down to the Sea of Galilee and into the region of the Decapolis. So he's still in Greek territory, by the way. But if you do a map, because I looked at it, what in the world? This seems like a detour. Right. And once again, kind of like I just used the women as an illustration that only saw death, barrel, resurrection.

this this this just doesn't from a geographical standpoint and what since we know how this started and how it ends I mean you can take a look at it in yourself for yourself if you want to get into it just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense on why he's going down here and by the way before you leave that thought jays that mark unlike the other right gospel writers seems to regionalize this ministry more than the rest. Like he gives us these little factoids about it, and you're right. A lot of it doesn't make any sense. So we hadn't even talked about Jerusalem and Judea yet.

That's going to be at the end of the thing. But he's a pattern here. Yeah, once he makes the turn to Jerusalem, then all of a sudden you also see that he starts taking more time to teach the disciples. Because we all know where that's going to lead. There was a terrific. Women just were not getting there.

They were so mistreated. They were not being, they were always below the man. They read stories like this and you say, hmm. But you know, he's elevated. Well, I think it goes back to a point I was going to make about Nicodemus. I mean, here you see a guy showing courage because he's putting his reputation on the line when he went to the barrel of Jesus and to do something so serving. But you got to remember, what did Jesus tell him in John 3? He's like, you've got to be born again.

But by saying that, he basically put all humans, including him. Here's a guy who's got plenty of money, Necadamia. He got plenty of money. He has a great reputation. He's popular. And Jesus is putting him on the same level with everybody. You've got to be born again. I mean, you just seem like Nicodemus should have said,

I mean, well, can I come back maybe as a teenager since I'm so accomplished? I mean, to start completely over was just taking all his credentials and flushing them down a porta potty. It was, it had to be. But now what I'm saying is you fast forward to the end, and I believe he got it. Because he was showing an act of love and humility in wrapping Jesus' body with spices. Right, judgmentalism on it. But if you all look, I mean, the same thing they were wrestling with back then. The ethnicity of a human being, that hold that against you.

I mean, color, that whole that against you. I mean, you know, I mean... Well, they ain't much changed. Oh, not at all. Yeah. I mean... Let me finish reading that. I mean, what sex you are.

That was a bad one. I mean, it's a struggle right here. We're reading about it the whole way, you know. It still is, that's right. So in 32, it says there's some people brought to him a man who was deaf and could hardly talk. And they begged him to place his hand on the man. And probably, you know, we've met...

And we've even had some, you know, in our family, that if you can't hear, it's hard to talk. So he could talk, but he couldn't be understood because if you can't hear, you can't hear yourself talk. So I think that's the image of what he's portraying that. We've heard deaf people, especially if they spoke before. So obviously they hear enough to be able to speak, but you're right. Once you can't hear it, then it's almost like you can't. you can't remember anymore. And the reason, by the way, that I brought up this idea of love from 1st Corinthians 13,

because Jesus is better than miracles. Love is better than miracles. And he's going to explain that first Corinthians 13. Now, a lot of people in the church, and they hear that, they take back and say, what? But it's true. And even here you see this act of love. I mean, with the woman and the daughter, I mean, she was unoffendable because she loved her daughter, and she thought Jesus was her best chance.

and she had done the research or whatever, however she got the information, she came to a conclusion that he was lowered. And she seems to be the first person at this stage who has got it. And it would be the last person you thought of. Well, here you see a bunch of people reminding you of the guys who opened the hatch of the roof and lowered their... Holding the roof gang, yep. Well, why are they doing that? Because they love their friend.

I mean, you're seeing an act of love and faith, but don't discount what the motivation. here, and I think that's why Jesus is taking notice is what I'm getting it. And that's a good point, Jay, because it's not only sometimes the faith of a person, it's the faith of the friends of a person. Well, and the love as a result of that. How many people have led people to Jesus just because they loved a person so much? They didn't give up. Dad, you're a perfect example of that.

Yeah. So hang on, let's take a break. So in 33, after he took him aside away from the crowd, I'm not sure why he did that other than maybe this continued. theme of, you know, because if you see this. Well, I think he was avoiding the, we're fixing to have a miracle thing here for the next eight hours. Exactly.

Jesus put his fingers into the man's ears. Now, there's just huge amounts of debates, and I read all the commentaries for you, too. Some people think it was just, he was doing sign language. Some, you know, some people say he was communicating. And, I mean, I just think it was, he was touching him. there was an intimate moment here he understands he's going he's got a difficulty here it's you don't have to tell i got it here's the it's almost to me just like jesus just shows different ways to go about these things because obviously he can speak things and he cast the demon out of

the woman's daughter and she was some other place well right and he was like but he could somehow he worked in the effect yeah but you know he called himself the great physician and it's almost like to me, like sometimes he shows like, I'm going to physically show you how to do that. I could do it this way. I can do it that way. Well, like he touched the leper. It makes sense. Right.

You're like, the guy hadn't been clean. But, you know, and, yeah, he hadn't been touched. But even, you got to remember, I think all these people with these kinds of conditions. And even, even in our world today, they're looked over. Or if you see somebody on, you know, homeless on the street who's talking, then you know, they're deaf. Or you're just, your, your nature is like. get away here, you know.

Yeah, I don't want to deal with this. I don't want to see it. I don't want to think about it. And that's just how human nature, unfortunately, is. And then all of a sudden, I mean, hold your bottle water and watch this. He spit and touched the man's tongue. Now, let's get through that. Because most people in our culture now, immediately, it's like,

Oh, what? Well, you know what I found fascinating? I looked up the medicinal purposes of spit. What do you believe that even in our culture? Oh, yeah. I read, I spent a lot of time that I'll never get back. Reading. I did a much shallower dive, but I know where you're going.

You know what? They really support the, it's, of course, here's what I found funny. You want to hear something funny. most of these doctors and things I read do you know where they attribute the idea of of why spit has medicinal purposes where the origin of that was i thought boy i'm fixed to see some scripture here i don't think it would be this text but impossible was not this text it was says most most people agree that this came from noticing dogs behavior. They said canine behavior, but dogs,

watching them lick themselves after an injury. Really? That's as deep as we're going with that. I saw a dog do that. What do you think, Bob? I think I need to write, what are they medical,

you know, we need to put that in a journal that actually there may be something in saliva that's a kid. curing agent. Dogs think it is.

Oh, it is. Where do you get that idea? Yeah. Well, for somebody who believes in the creator and not necessarily trying to figure out the creation without a creator, well, of course, yeah, of course it is. So your inside of your mouth is the fastest healing place on your body. It's how you cut your tongue or get a, it's the fastest healing.

And, Jase, you know more than anybody with all of Mia stuff. It's amazing how quickly, and saliva is part of that. And you know how if you hit your finger, what's the first thing you do instinctively? You put it in your mouth. When I'm injured, when I'm injured, and I look down for this little short period, I don't have any injuries on my, but I have a lot of thorn sticks. I have a couple. You can use it. You can use mine.

Oh, yeah. You see this helmet. Do you want to lick this injury? I have two dogs. I have two dogs that they investigate my arms. And they'll lick it, right? And the first thing they do is start licking it. Man's best friend.

Most people say, well, you don't want to do that? They spread germs. I said, they think it's helping. And I've noticed, after they try to lick my wounds, I noticed that they don't get infected as much either. Right. So. Isn't that a saying, James? Just trying your dog to lick your ailments.

You're going to be all right. That's a saying. Like when something happens to you say he's licking his wounds? Licking his wounds. Oh, I know. that that yeah yeah i had it on the i had it all right keep her here i almost got it look jace if word gets out that you're saying you said that bunch of rednecks down there are saying your dogs licking your wounds and they'll heal right this out of medical journal

but my point is look people were using saliva back in the day as a healing agent so so that was happening so i don't think because the when you first read it in this course the era of of diseases, if they have a disease, the spread of, you know, it cuts both ways. But look, we said all that. Jesus didn't have to do that. He healed, he healed people just by saying you're healed. And they weren't even there. Well, right.

He rose people from the dead, raised people from the dead. And they, he wasn't there either. Right. So, now, so why does he go through this? I mean, there's got to be something here, but I just think it's interesting. So verse 34, he said, he looked up to heaven. I love this with a deep sigh and said, Elphatha, which means be open.

At this, the man's ears were opened. His tongue was loosened, and he began to speak plainly. Which, by the way, that's a true miracle. That's a miracle. Having able to hear and he couldn't talk and now you're getting stealing my punchline. That's exactly what I was going to say. I mean, there's, even though spit has some medicinal value, it couldn't cure that. This is a miracle.

If a man came here and you spit on the ground and then touch a guy's tongue and put your fingers in his ears, which I can see people all across the globe, we're going to try this now. You're going to start a revolution. Well, ready to the Bible. Let me try it. But you're not Jesus, right? Yeah, but I believe. So good luck.

But Jesus does it. And remember, that's why I bought up First Corinthians 13. The character of a person is what Jesus is after. And you remember the Corinthian church had missed it, and he got down and said, look, faith, hope, and love, the greatest of these of love. And then two chapters later, what does he do? He reminds the Corinthians of the gospel. They had forgotten Jesus.

You forget Jesus. You lose your faith. you lose your hope and you don't have love. And the whole thing will melt down. And all of a sudden, you're just like the world that Jesus rescued you from. Right. So then in verse 35, at this moment, you know, his ears were open, his tongue was loose. He began to speak.

Jesus commanded them not tell him one. But the more he did, he did so, the more they kept talking about it. Of course they did. People were overwhelmed with amazement. I love this line because it's about Jesus. I mean, somebody needs to write a song about this. He has done everything well. You know, speaking of Jesus, he has done everything well.

I mean, that what a, what a bumper sticker. It's a caption. It is. Yeah. He just does everything well. Where's your t-shirt? He does everything well. He does everything well.

You know, who else could you say that about an adult? There's always a problem. There's always the kryptonite so we can make a movie. But no. People wouldn't want to watch a movie about Jesus. Why? He does everything well. There's no conflict.

There's no... There's no... There's no... There's no... We can't make a movie about this. That's right. He even makes the deaf here and the mute speak. So there it is.

I wrote this down. Here's an interesting story where here's a man permitted to speak, but not able. He encounters Jesus, and then he's able to speak. but not permitted. He's told to be quiet. I thought it's funny. It's pretty good. It is.

I mean, Jesus, hang on. Hang on. But he just couldn't help. Keep it to yourself. But I haven't been able to speak for who or, I don't know how many years. People say, he's disobeying Jesus. He's disobeying Jesus. But it goes back to what Jeremiah said.

You know, when you're persecuted and all, and you're feeling like you don't want to speak up, you just can't help it. Jesus does everything so well that you literally can't. help it. And that's why Jesus was okay with, even though he said, don't do it. You said, why is he okay with? That's why he's off out in the middle of nowhere. That's why he kept doing these things. That's exactly. He's like, they can't help it. And he knew the word was spreading. All right, we're out of time. We're going to talk a little bit more about this one in overtime. And you can follow us over if you want to at blazedtv.com slash unashamed. You can get $10 off with the

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