Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 58 | Jase's Greatest Treasure Hunting Find and Which 'Curse Words' Are OK
Episode Date: March 1, 2020Jase shows all the things he’s found treasure hunting and talks about the greatest treasure a man can find. Phil shares the story of baptizing his great-granddaughter, and the guys give their though...ts on cursing when you're living a Christian life. They also explain which curse words aren't really curse words at all. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1 To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed.
What about you?
All right, so I was the preacher Sunday.
You know, you have a lot more respect for these guys.
Why don't you do it?
I appreciate that, dude.
We have two services.
I was ready because the first service is, what is a nice word?
They're laid back.
There's not a lot of energy in the room.
But you're a big, you argued with me about hermeneutics and homiletics.
Okay.
So how does that fit in?
There's two things.
Homiletically and hermeneutically.
When you put it together, how did you do, Jace?
We're back on this argument.
But I never found those particular terms in my Bible.
That's why I'm concerned.
Hermeneutic is how you study the Bible.
Forget it.
Homiletics is just speaking.
They're not really connected.
I guess unless you were speaking about the Bible, you know, but anyway.
I'm thinking read your Bible and put what it says into practice,
and I figured it covered the hermagnetian.
Well, it was funny.
It was funny because Jay's lesson was really, really good,
which, by the way, we've been telling you this,
WFR Church.org, if you want to see any of our stuff,
you can go there and see the sermons.
You were in there?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
You miss me.
It's foggy.
I'm in one spot with the homeless and over there,
and y'all are over there.
Y'all in Yuppieville.
We're in the main campus, Yuppieville, for Westmanville.
I love that.
Like there's four yuppies in the home.
We have a meeting of coming together of the homeless and the subdivision crowd.
We've got them coming together over there.
That's biblical.
I actually mentioned that.
Yeah, you did.
Galatians.
Well, I told about my icebreaker, if we want to go down the homiletic road,
was my trip to East Texas, because I told about the education system,
I went through, you know how people have the Romans Road?
I have, it's not me, I borrowed it from Paul via the Holy Spirit.
The Galatians Road, which is a good one.
You know, the Galatians 220, I've been crucified with Christ, I no longer live,
Christ lives in me.
Because basically, if we're here to represent Jesus,
I went with a sermon from the water, Jesus's baptism,
when he received the Spirit and God said,
this is my son.
But you previewed it on our last pot.
He gave us the guts of it.
Which is actually,
it was a lot different.
Like,
I guess once you got into it,
because we didn't know about the story
about your friend that died and all that.
So,
well,
I need to fight to the last story.
A lot of the Old Testament stuff,
like Miriam,
you left all that out.
So I was kind of waiting for some of your stuff.
Well, I read Deuteronomy 8.
You did.
I read an excerpt from Jim McGuigan's book on Exodus
that I thought was really good
because it was more about why
did God send them from this Red Sea moment where he, you know, the army was deluge with
water and they were celebrating and Miriam was singing and everybody was happy.
Then he sent them to the wilderness for 40 years.
By the way, I've been watching, I've been watching you too because I remember when both
of you were infants, then little boys, young men, and now you're grown adults.
It occurred to be because we've been getting a lot of questions about.
about how do we stop cursing?
I use a lot of filthy language.
I wish I didn't do it.
We get a lot of those.
Do y'all have anything?
And it occurred to me when I read some of that.
I said, they're having a problem with filthy language.
So I thought, let's see, have I ever heard Jace and y'all's lifetime?
Jase or Al and a fit of rage burst out with profanity.
if you've ever done that, evidently you haven't done it around me.
I've never heard either one of you use filthy language since I've been on the earth with you too.
You know, on the other side of it, have y'all ever heard me get into an outburst of profanity since you know on me?
Never.
Well, when I was a kid.
Since you're a Christian, no.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm on the Galatians Road.
I'm on the road.
I'm on a different path than it was on.
Back in my past, oh, I just, it just flew out of it.
I do remember that first year.
I want people to understand that that's coming out of the overflow of the heart.
Right.
The mouth speaks.
And I will say this, the year after that first year you're a Christian, this should help folks that are new Christians that are struggling with it, that you still slip every once in a while.
You were trying not to.
Yep.
In front of us.
That's correct.
And every once in a while there'd be a slip.
Something would happen.
You'd say a curse.
And I can remember all of us like, uh-oh.
You know, is that is it bad?
He's going back.
going back, you know.
I remember Kay, you know, would be sweeping the house.
Something happened and she'd drop a S bomb.
Mom's was the S word.
She would drop it.
And then she would tell, I'm so sorry.
I should not have said that.
That's all she's ever done.
I've never, I mean, I don't want to, I want to be kind to people who, but, you know, to me, to me that, to me, that, that's one of the easiest things to correct.
It's habit.
It's habit.
I mean, I didn't listen around y'all for, I mean, the duck blind out.
I said for 30 or 40 years.
They're just words.
And I mean, like, if I hit my thumb, you know, I roofed houses for a year, you know what?
You're going to hit you, you know.
Bam.
I'd be like, I'd say people's names or, you know what I mean?
I went through different stages of how you respond to that.
Well, we got a lot of heat on Duck Dynasty because, you know, Willie especially, but all of us would say crap and not think anything about it because we don't see it as a bad word.
Well, that's ridiculous.
Depending on how you go on the scale.
to somebody else, that's like saying the S one.
I had a guy rebuked me one time
for saying freaking, because
he looked it up in the dictionary and it had the,
you know, the F word. It said a euphemism for the
I said, but I chose
to use something that's culturally
acceptable. I'm not taking a
rebuke for saying freaking.
I chose to say something that's
socially acceptable and not say that.
So I do not agree with your
rebuke, sir. I mean, because I did.
I had a woman. I thought that's ridiculous.
Same thing with me.
me. She told me, so this is how far you can go. She told me that any word that is said in an exclamation,
think about how long it took her to, this was the rebut. Anywhere that said like an exclaimed
or you're mad or whatever that starts with the letter G is a euphemism for GD.
Well, that's just ridiculous. Like if you say garden seed, you know, or good night. Good night.
But that's legal. You just use the Lord's name. I mean, that's where. Speaking of Galatians.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's not what, so that's how far you can go the other way.
But I think it's words, I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I mean, I know Ephesian says,
do not say anything.
What does it say?
You're not like any unwholesome.
Unhulsome talk.
Nor should there be any obscenity or course joking, course joking.
Look, I would struggle with that.
But rather Thanksgiving.
And so I think it's a general view, some words that are cuss words, other places.
like if you watch you know
British TV they don't say any
cuss words because they're cuss words
we don't think are cussed. That's right. So you're like
well this is a cling no they're cuss and there's just
they say words that you know
we don't get their words. Yeah to them
if you says a bloody whatever that's a bad
or like shite you know
see I couldn't say that you know
that that's their S-H word
here. Oh yeah
like everybody in Europe now just think I said a cuss word
But everybody in America said, no.
So I don't, to me it's not that big a deal.
But whatever you put in your head, if you're around that all day,
I think it's more of response.
You know, you think about when this gets started.
Why would you cuss when you're a kid?
Well, you get mad or you want to be cool.
Well, all these principles on where that starts, that's the problem.
You're trying to be something.
You're not.
And I just looked at that and thought, you know what?
That's just stupid.
And a lot of his peer pressure,
that one of the guys that sent an email in, I can't remember your name,
but he said he worked at a mill, you know,
and everybody cusses like sailors.
And so he doesn't want to do that.
I mean, he's the son of God,
but his atmosphere is so difficult for him because for so long he did,
and now he's trying to stop.
Well, in Hollywood, that's the only way they know how to be funny.
You know, remember every time they had an idea,
it was always something dirty.
Let's face it, it's out of control.
Evil speech is out of control in these United States.
I think it's just,
kind of embarrassing and you know i don't it's just one thing i don't have a problem so basically
you train yourself not to use that kind of speech is what i did yeah me too and i don't use
but if you never do it i mean i didn't train i don't do any training i just think it's stupid so i
never done it even when i was in high school i just i just chose not to say those words yep i mean
i thought them but you know well it does it does affect you bear it a good point dad because it does
affect your witness. Like, in other words, you know, and you told the story before about the sound
man that was converted because he was listened to us. It was our first show in Benelli. He said,
I'm not hearing any profanity. He kept looking for the profanity off camera because he hears everything.
Every conversation, you know, there's sound people, they hear everything. And he kept thinking,
well, I know they're cuss. When are they doing this? Do they wait until all this is over?
And they go out. He said, we all are. Yeah. That had nothing to do with my lesson. But in my lesson,
And what I did was is...
That's a detour. You just brought us back.
Well, I don't know how we got off on that.
But I went through that.
I've been crucified with Christ, and I brought up the verse, you know, if
righteousness could be obtained by observing the law or performance, then Christ after
nothing, escalations 2 right there 21, you know, so we don't set aside the grace of God.
The reason I did that, though, is because when Jesus was baptized right before you did it,
I didn't bring this up in the preview.
He said, this is to be done.
to fulfill all righteousness.
And so I brought up the point that he was going to go back in time by his death
and his resurrection and his ministry per se, getting the Holy Spirit.
But he's going to go back in time and redeem all those who had faith.
And he was going to go in the future, you know, where we are.
And so basically him being designated as a son of God before he starts his ministry,
I was like, this is a key moment.
And he hadn't done anything yet from a human perspective.
perspective. So I think that's still that same thing about it's not based on your performance.
You think about it. God said that. This is my son, whom I love, with whom I'm well pleased.
All he'd done up to that point is no sin and built a few houses. No miracles. No, he hadn't
started his ministry. But anyway, I went to the Galatians 3, 26 and 27. I was quoting all this.
We're all sons of God through faith in Jesus for all of us who were baptized, you know, have clothed ourselves.
And that's where I made the point about the East Texas, you know, the education.
Oh, yeah.
You tell that story.
I tell the story, which is fine.
Because to me, I'm like, you can be the smartest person in the world, and you have 17 letters behind your name.
If you miss Jesus' forgiveness, his life, and especially his resurrection, that's just dumb.
You're not that smart.
So I did that.
Then I went where we're all the same.
It says neither male and a female slavery.
free or, you know, nationality, whatever it says, depending on your version. And then I
quoted the Galatians 4, 6 about, and so God sent the Spirit into our hearts that cries out
Father. Then I read, or quoted, Galatians 521 and 22, the differences before Jesus, you know,
the accent, nature, obvious immorality, and it goes through that then. But through the Spirit,
love, joy, peace, patience, kind of. But I quoted all the scriptures.
on purpose because when he got from the water, the Holy Spirit went to the wilderness.
His weapon was quoting scripture.
So that's why I kind of did a, from a homiletical viewpoint, I was kind of creating
this idea that you've got to be prepared for battle with this.
This is our weapon, Ephesian 6th.
Which also, is back to your other thing about cussing.
if you got more of this
Oh, that's right.
In there instead of...
Oh, you won't stop using prophetic.
That's exactly right.
Well, that was one of my points.
I said, when it comes like to the cell phone,
because it could be your wilderness.
You know, I went through all the places that could be, you know,
the wilderness once you have this moment of clarity in your end, Jesus.
You know, the Spirit's going to, God's going to test you.
He's going to carry you to the wilderness.
But I said, one of the wildernesses that have come to light,
especially from the evil one attacking you, is the cell phone.
And so only made one comment on it.
I said, I recommend you spend more time in this.
I held this up than you do the cell phone.
I said, and you'll be good.
Because you'll make better decisions while you're on the cell phone
if you're spending more time in here.
And don't give me that, oh, I'm reading my Bible on the cell phone.
Yeah, that's what people do.
Yeah, in church on Sunday morning.
When I was in front of my daughter a couple years ago,
you know, that was one of her few things.
she dropped because I said is there anything in here that Jesus wouldn't approve of?
This is all good.
A cell phone has both good and evil like the tree.
Don't eat of that tree because it's knowledge of good and evil.
This is good, but the cell phone has so much evil, you say, what did you do with that?
I don't fool with that.
So you've heard.
So I told her, I told her, is there anything in here that Jesus wouldn't approve of?
And she was like, well, I read my Bible on there.
You know, of course, she was a kid.
She was 14.
There was stuff on there that wasn't good.
But I thought, what do you?
Do you think I'm going to fall for that?
Is there anything on here that Jesus wouldn't approve of?
She said, I've read my Bible on there before.
You didn't answer the question.
Nice diversion.
By the way, it was a wonderful thing.
Yesterday, y'all were there.
I baptized for the first time ever.
I said, listen, we were at a jacuzzi, which Sean Hannity would know that there were no
alligators in it, nor cotton mouths.
It's a, what do you call them?
Hot tub.
Hot tub.
So we go to the hot tub.
And I told them, I said, I've baptized a mighty throng my days on the earth.
I said, but this is one thing I've never done.
I've never baptized my great granddaughter.
great anything because most people don't live long enough as it turns out for your
great-grandchildren to ever know their great-grandpaul he's passed on it was a good point
you know what i thought you were going to say i was just completely wrong when you said up today
i'm doing something i've never done before and i thought you were going to say i'm actually going
to baptize somebody without getting in the water which was also a first right i don't think they've ever seen
that you got Bill Smith did it one time. Phil
Phil got it up on the
railing of the hot tub
and he's like okay you know
lean back and I thought boy we're gonna
put her flexibility to the test
but she's 14 so she's got a
flexibility but it was a wonderful thing
I said this girl
is my great
granddaughter and I
and who knows
if the Almighty gives me another
decade or two you say
I will actually be looking at
maybe her children, great, great grandpa, but it was just a pretty cool thing.
You know, I was looking at it.
I said, she's 14 years old.
I said, by the time I got to be 14, I was cutting up pretty good.
So I just reminded her of that, and she was very interested.
Well, and let me just say this, because a lot of you ask questions about, you know,
how do I have a conversation?
And this shows you what dad has described me, shows the power of her conversation.
So we've been talking to Carley for a while.
She comes to me.
I knew she was getting close.
Yep.
And so I just been waiting for her to say, you know, what do you think?
And dad comes over like a week ago, and he just happened.
They happened to be together in the same room, and they start talking.
And I think dad just kind of looked at her for the first time.
I thought, man, she's like a young woman.
Growing up.
Yeah, she's going up.
So you just opened a conversation about being a Christian and getting baptized.
And then a week later, she says, you know, I'm ready.
So sometimes just a conversation, that's all you did.
I want to give you a back story on this.
I don't know if you're aware of this.
When I was telling about my daughter, you know, having trouble with a cell phone,
which she's doing awesome now.
I mean, we're a couple of years from moving that.
Well, I was telling Jay.
So if you back up two years, his daughter is 12.
I'm telling him about my daughter, you know, what's going on.
And he's like, well, my daughter has a cell phone.
I was like, well, you need to have a meeting about that because I think that's a little young.
In my opinion, of course, he's family.
So I'm telling him, you know, I have to shuck the corn here.
but I was like, you need to go, you know, get in there.
Well, you know what's weird?
Of course, she was 12 then, but he walked in there and said,
let me see your phone.
Of course, he didn't know anything.
I just, he was, I had told him, I was like, oh, if she's got a cell phone
and you're giving her amounts of time, there's trouble.
It's just too.
It's inevitable.
And I said, especially if you've got like Snapchat or, you know, Instagram, something like that.
Snapcat.
What's that?
Well, Snapchat.
Snapcat.
Snap chat.
It's a long story.
I'm not going to be a bit.
I don't go into it.
I don't want to hear it.
TikTok's the one I hear.
Avoid.
I did remind her, by the way, during my little discussion with her.
Snap cat.
I thought, I said, how old are you, girl?
She said, 14.
I said 14.
Hmm.
Because the last time I remember, she was 11.
So I'm sitting there, you know.
At least you remember who she was.
Three year.
Old great grandpa, we, I'm looking around.
I'm like, that's what is that?
Yeah, he'll look around.
Now, who does, what's this one's name right here?
Well, Tard.
It's a copy.
By the way, Jay.
It's a difference to you.
I did tell her because she had a cell phone sitting there and I said,
there's a lot of stuff on that cell phone.
You don't need to be watching.
And her reply was, I know that, Papa.
I know that.
Well, I was going to tell you what happened.
She let me know.
I said, there's some stuff on that that's not good.
Once I tell you the end of this story, you'll know.
So Jay, he's like, is there any, because I told him, I said,
I asked him, is there anything on there Jesus wouldn't approve of?
Because I'd ask my daughter that and she was, she's older.
so she first had a line of defense.
So he asked her, look, and he said she just sat there,
and he said her bottom lip started quivering.
I said, well, that shows she got a good heart.
You know, at 12 when you come front of them,
and her little lip started quivering.
And so he's like, I couldn't believe it.
Because I was thinking, oh, my daughter's not, you know, doing that.
And my point is, you've got to have the conversation.
But once you have the conversation, well, here we are two years later.
And she was probably a little young then.
but they started having those meaningful, good, and evil conversations
and about life.
And once you have the conversations, it's the perfect backdrop to share Jesus.
And she was understanding, okay, here we go.
So that's why I said I want to give that backstory.
Because to me, that's the more important part.
That's one thing.
And I appreciate about what we decided to do as a family that we're all living here together
because this is Jay's uncle, my brother.
that's assisting helping my granddaughter be who she needs to be and her great-grandfather.
So, I mean, we're on the same page here.
We're growing them up.
It's a wonderful thing.
That's what we do.
It's a wonderful thing to have, you know, papal, the great-grandfather, then the grandfather,
and then the father, and it all the way up the chain, family chain.
It's goodness, godliness, and everything.
Encourage the young men to be, this is Titus.
Everyone, all you know, they were listening to us, you need to read Titus.
Underline every time it says, teach what is good, good, good.
Teach young men to be self-control.
You could add women and everything, everything, set them an example by doing what's good.
And your teaching show integrity, seriousness.
And check this out.
And soundness of speech that cannot be condemned.
so that those who oppose you may be a shame because they have nothing bad to say about us.
He's just saying, watch how you roll, watch your mouth, because it needs to be soundness of speech.
Just be careful of what you say because that's coming out of you.
Well, you've got to have those conversations.
I like it how when something happens at our family and then it's like a neighborhood family alert.
You know, everybody, get your kids, get the cell phones.
Here we go, let's have a conversation.
We call it a bogey in the neighborhood.
When somebody, there's a sighting of someone in our property that's not supposed to be there.
Yeah.
I mean, the weapons come out.
The floodlights go on.
It's quite the.
And on the spiritual side, if something happens at school and there's a little rift about one of our family members, younger ones, especially that's in a bind, whether it be speech or whatever, throw a temp a tent or time.
I mean, out comes the Bibles.
I mean, it's like the only weapons we have is Bibles.
Well, that was my sermon, Sunday.
that's what I was pleased.
I was like, this is your weapon.
So finish your sermon.
So anyway, so I went through the sermon.
I thought it went well.
I did it both services.
And then that night I went and spoke at a house church.
And so I was exhausted.
So, you know, you go three times.
So the next day I go treasure hunting, which is what I do for, you know,
it's like a million miles away moment, you know,
especially when you're exhausted, you know.
and it's biblical, Matthew 13, you know, 44.
But I found something on my property.
I wanted to show you.
And y'all know I've been doing this.
I found all these, in these two boxes,
this is what I found on my property,
you know, at the old plantation that we bought.
Well, tell them why you got into treasure.
We've talked about it, I think, maybe earlier in the podcast,
but remind the audience.
What happened was, were these silver,
Can't hear you. Can't hear you. Can't hear you.
Maybe Mike.
Are these, uh, Jay, so this is a civil war.
I got some Civil War buttons there.
Civil War buttons. Yeah, I got seven or eight of those. And, uh, that's how I got into it.
When I, when Missy and I bought our, you know, what we turned into a bed and breakfast and a wedding venue.
It's like the oldest house in our parish.
In Wastathehrush.
So, Jason, what are you having to allow you found that?
Hold on. I'll ask me a question. So, so what I did was, uh, Murray, who is, we brought to the Lord
what 20 years ago?
Murray Crowe.
25.
He was one of the guys who invented the
Mojo decoys.
And he's into metal
detected and treasure hunting.
Well, he kept asking me when we bought that place.
He's like, well, you let me metal detected?
Well, you let, but I didn't really, I wasn't familiar.
I didn't know what that meant.
So the house was built and when 1719.
Well, they bought the, or got the land from Louisiana
or whatever in 1790.
the Fios.
They were from France.
There's some roads named after him and stuff out at ULM.
I mean, that's a big name.
Yeah, he named Monroe, actually.
But anyway, they started building the house in like 1,800,
and it took them 30, 40 years to build it because they did everything by hand.
But see, I've turned the ground, what's under the ground, I've turned it up.
So I know where they're brick, where they made the bricks,
where they had the metal work and deal, because whenever, I've just, once you have metal
detected.
You're basically excavated your own property.
I know where everything.
was there was two like their their servant quarters and you know where they were and you just you
you figure it out but uh so my buddy he was like yeah and well i thought he was just going to come out
and start metal detecting didn't you say it was a hospital civil war hospital well that's what we
think they turned the chapel there's a chapel which we it's still in good good shape it's like the
honeymoon sweet now it looks really great in there yeah by the way you can look it up what's the
Is there a website?
Logtown plantation.
Longtown.
So you can actually come stay there.
Book an event.
Yeah.
But it's pretty well booked.
So if you,
you know,
you better hurry.
It's a really cool place.
It is a cool.
People like it.
And so,
so Murray, when he came out,
well,
he had an extra metal detector.
And he's like,
well,
let's go.
I was like,
well,
I don't know how to do this,
you know.
And he's like,
yeah,
I'm going to teach him.
So for the first couple weeks,
he was finding stuff.
I think the first thing we found was like,
like an Indian head penny, which I've grown to love. So Indian head designating. There's an
actual Indian on the Indian head on the penny, which says it's old. Oh, it's old. What year?
This was the first one. Give us a time frame. What year? This was 1902. This was the first one we found.
Oh, 1902 Indian. 120 years ago. Oh, yeah. Well, we found an 1875 dime. And the first thing I found was an Indian head penny. I think this was the first one.
one I found. Can you still call it, Indian Head? Is that? Yeah, politically correct. I don't
ever know anymore what you can say. 1875. That's the first one I found. It's old.
1875. Yeah, Indian Head. That's 150 years ago, almost. So then I wonder who dropped it.
So I got into it. Look, it's a hobby. And what happened was, see, this is my, I'll show y'all.
Look, I'll show y'all mine.
I want to see the tools of your trade, Jay's,
because we've never brought all your stuff in there for it.
Missy did tweet yesterday a picture.
Look, Jay's is laying out there in that big old huge thing right in front of his house.
He's just laying down with a big hole in there.
He's literally laying down with his arms down.
She took a picture of me?
Yeah, she tweeted it yesterday.
He's always hunting for something.
And you were laying there with both hands, like, elbow.
deep, you know. Well, it's because yesterday, look, I've been hunting my place for a year.
And yesterday, embarrassingly, I found this. This is the second greatest piece that I found.
Look at it's a silver half dollar, 1912.
Good, huh?
And so she was out there. She asked me to come out there. That's in good shape.
Oh, it's fantastic. You can still see the eagle on the back?
You wanted me to help her do something. So I said, I'm going to go metal detecting for a little bit.
No wonder silver is worth a lot of money.
That's right.
That's the truth. I hadn't even cleaned that. I literally wiped it off.
Been in the ground since 1912.
So look, here's my, I use a white. I think they're at Oregon.
And it's kind of funny. They, Missy, she had posted a picture on social media.
And they reached out to me and they were like, oh, you know, welcome to it.
You know, metal detectin and they were fans of our show. And they sent me this.
And that's a nice one, right? Oh, it's nice. Yeah. So, and I had to go back over the
ground that I'd already covered once I got this.
So the idea is, because it's a better metal detector,
but you put this on your head, Phil.
Look, you put the earphones on,
and then you've got all your settings on what you're going for,
and then you're basically listening and then watching.
It'll give you a number.
It's really dirty, too.
I guess it's wrong.
Well, I tell you, you're digging a lot of holes.
And so, let me show you this.
Oh, you got like a belt.
You got like a tool belt.
So then once you find it, look, then this is your pinpointer
because that tells you, that gives you a broad place so you dig a hole.
But once you get down to it, see, then you need this, you turn it on.
See, look what?
See?
So then it's anything metal.
So you're waving that over your plug?
No, you're sticking that in the ground.
Okay.
You're sticking it to find it exactly.
Now you've got to pinpoint where that was, which you'll find four nails for you.
to that because this is any metal so you see we see your cool stuff here how much uh how much
junk do you find just in i would say the ratio is probably in the 90 percent 90 percent of what you
dig up cans nails anything metal the the square nails and bottle caps and bullets those are the main
three that you find i've dug up thousands it makes you realize
how violent a place it is because I put bullet.
I mean, there's a lot of bullets out there.
Like, because I find them both.
You find the casing and the actual bullet.
You know, it goes somewhere.
That's what Murray's into.
He's into those Civil War bullets, you know.
But I find I'd say every time I go out at least 10 bullets, every time, on average.
There was a lot, there were a lot of weapons there.
I bet I've found just at my place.
There was a lot of hunting going on.
I found 10 pocket knives.
10.
Which, you know, you think back 200 years,
but still, that was an extraordinary high number.
And plus your place is around the river, too,
because it's just right there.
I guess that's how they got their stuff.
Oh, there were boats coming up and parking there.
Yeah, because then that became the spot, I'm sure.
Fort Monroe, which used to be Fort Myro.
And, you know, Thomas Jefferson and sent a group up through there,
and they were laughing at the fort.
They said, you know, the cracks are way too wide.
Arrows are go right through that thing.
How are they still alive, you know?
I wanted to share this way.
You see this silver quarter,
it was the first silver quarter ever found.
What is that?
1934.
But you see how it's curve like that?
Yeah.
How did that happen?
I knew it was a good signal, and I dug the hole,
but there was a tree route.
It was a big one.
And so, you know, I got an axe.
And, I mean, I had to go to my truck,
get an hour. I'm like, I know there's something good, but you're trying not to hit it or anything.
You don't want to mess it up. Well, right. And so I kept, I spent an hour in this hole around this tree
root. I could not figure it out. Well, the reason this is curved, it's not because I hit it. It had formed
to the tree root and it had grown that, that root. It was a part of the root, but it actually
curved that over a hundred years. Which shows you the power. I literally got,
had my tool and had to cut around the reep and get it out.
Finally, pry it up.
Yeah, pry it off.
I thought that was fascinating.
I came around the curb on the riverbank.
There were Indian relics on the edge of the river, pretty high bank.
And I looked at the little pieces of pottery and shells that they had brought the fresh water.
That was right here, right?
Yeah, the fresh water musk or whatever you call them, mollusk.
I could tell they had eaten there
and they were camped on the edge of the river
a tree
I come around a curve one day
I'm right along the river over there
on our property
and there was a tree that had fallen across the road
a big tree
old tree
so I thought well
I'm going to have to change all my way
through this thing
so I began to cut this tree
when I got to the middle of the road
the rows like this the trees right across it
well I got to
about halfway and right in the middle of the road and when I sawed I looked down I heard a little thump
and I looked down and there was a stone axe, you know, looked just like a metal axe, but it was
made out of stone. And you could see where someone had used it a lot. I think it was a, they scraped
hides with it. But the thing came out of that tree. It fell out of that tree because I've been going
through there for years and there was no stone axe in the middle of the road but the tree fell
I'm cutting the tree up with the chainsaw and it falls out and it falls out and I'm looking on
the road I said what in the world is that so that tree grew up and it just was inside the tree this
thing was in the tree wow and how it got there I do not know it was just laying there I have it
down at the house but it's a stone axe but it looks like you could tell where someone's hand
been they used it so much just had a warm place their fingerprints was kind of
like in the stone.
Yeah.
And they had looked like scraped beaver hides,
scraped the meat off, the Indian women.
And it looked like, that's what it looked like.
But I still got it to this day.
Well, I found, you know, you think about one place.
I found three rings.
I found three, four pieces of gold.
I found some kind of gold nugget.
You see this?
This is a silver.
It's silver and has a gold nugget.
We think it comes off some kind of French uniform or whatever.
But you're thinking all this stuff is just in the ground.
But the most valuable thing I found,
I found is the smallest, this little, you see the Star David on it? When I dug this up,
I thought it was a toy and stuck in my pocket. But I got home and I got my magnifying glass and it said
United States of America. So I was like, I googled coin, United States coin with the Star David.
And they made a three-cent piece for 19 years from 1851. So you have a penny. They didn't have a two-cent
pay, but they had a three-cent piece. This is a three-cent piece.
There it is. I have one. Well, here's the funny part.
When did they make that?
In 1851, from 1851 to 1870.
And it was probably so small that everybody kept losing them, so they say, eh.
But what's funny is my buddy, you know, he was like, well, hey, if this thing has a zero mint mark, he said, that's a rare coin, because this was the sample.
And I was like, well, what are the odds of that?
I looked at it, zero mint mark.
So I actually found one rare coin out there.
It's worth pretty good, a bit of a chunk of change.
Not that I'm going to sell it.
But I just thought that was fascinating that I found.
And look how small it is.
I'm looking at it.
I mean, it is tiny.
People overlook it when they're looking at all my stuff.
If that was in your pocket after 1851,
I'm just trying to figure out how big a leap could it be instead of a penny?
Let's make a three-cent piece.
Who was the guru who decided to do that?
Well, because I think back then three cents was worth, you're thinking now a penny's not worth money.
Back then, three cents would get you probably a, you know, a carriage with a horse.
I don't know.
So you're right.
The value of somebody, I'm sure some viewer will know, the value of a three cents, you know, 175 years ago.
You can buy a small village with three cents.
I mean, but now we're like three cents.
That is not.
And now that little three cent piece, it's worth.
A few thousand dollars probably, you know, if it was in better condition.
Did you see?
I could probably get three or four thousand dollars for it.
Well, you looked it up.
Did it give you, did you read any history?
Like, why the star of David?
Was it just an homage to Judaism?
Or I'm curious as to why they would have chosen?
I read it.
I remembered it was, you know, back then everyone was religious.
So it was just, you know, and the God, you know,
there was a reason they put in God we trust on all the coins.
and that was even, you know, later on.
But I'm just saying that was the bad,
it wasn't a big, it wasn't a big deal.
I just remember it said it had a religious influence.
And think about it, it was basically during the Civil War,
because it was right for the Civil War.
So that coin was around during that era.
Yeah, I don't know.
It doesn't specifically say the Star of David.
But when I saw that, I was like, oh, cool.
I thought it was some kind of game piece with the Star David, you know?
Yeah.
Because I literally, before I cleaned that, I could not see with the naked eye.
you know, the date or the United States of America.
And I haven't cleaned the backside because they say it's worth more if you don't clean them.
But I clean the front side, like professionally.
Yeah.
And so I just because I want to see.
So how meticulous is that, the cleaning?
You know, it is.
Did you ruin some stuff before you?
Oh, I have.
I've ruined stuff.
But most of the stuff I ruined, it wasn't worth much anyway, like Buffalo Nichols.
Because when you, like here's a Buffalo nickel that I haven't cleaned.
well, you can't see anything.
Oh, yeah.
But if you hold it just right in the light,
you know, you can tell it's a Buffalo nickel.
But most time I take them and I just, look,
this is just taking a brillo pad because they're not worth anything anyway.
I think it looks better if you just shave it down.
Of course, the more you do it, the less is worth.
I mean, this is worth literally five cents.
You know what I mean?
But it looks cool.
But anything of value, I err on not cleaning it.
that great but some stuff I've found you know it came out of the ground me you look at this silver
ring I haven't cleaned that and I mean look at that thing that's amazing I don't know how old it is but
I mean it's solid silver ring you found some kind of something off a necklace too didn't you find
something with a gold embedded in it yeah that's what I showed all ago like I found this this was a
pendant it's a silver heart pendant but I mean it's beautiful you know and that's not
so what air it's silver right is that a woman's a woman's a white woman's a woman's a
woman's apparel there?
Yes, your guess is good as mine.
You're not going to find this on the internet.
I mean, because it's a specialty made, you know, item.
It had a little hook like you could pin.
Oh, so I could brooch.
Yeah, I have the other pieces, but as soon as I grabbed it, it just like fell apart, you know.
But, I mean, this thing's old.
So somebody wore it.
It wasn't a necklace.
They wore it as it.
That tells you it's old.
I mean, when I found this, because this, I mean, you're digging,
you're digging, finding nails and bottle getting all of a sudden.
and you're like, you're like, you're a reika.
You know what you've gotten into this now?
Who's that?
Oh, Jeff.
Yeah, oh, I know.
You know whatever woman lost that.
You know, she went back, backtracked if she could find.
Oh, they probably searched forever for them.
But that's what you got to remember.
That's why you don't find much stuff compared with how long you're out there.
It could have been an attack where they were killed.
You never know.
Because you're finding stuff that people didn't want to lose.
So that's why you got to remember the process.
That's why I wanted to read this.
and it's one reason that I got into this.
Where are you doing?
Matthew 13, 44, and 45.
This is kind of the theme of what we've talked about today.
The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field.
When a man found it, and I think this is amazing,
he hid it again and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
again the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls when he found one of great value
he went away and sold everything he had and bought it and you know the point is it's when it comes to
hearing what jesus did on a cross and his resurrection you know the two themes here is that radical
changes occur i mean you do things that the world looks at and you're like what do you
What are you crazy?
But, you know, as a treasure hunter, when I read this, I get it.
I mean, because look, the number one fund that I've had from acquiring this property,
I mean, we kind of bought it as an investment.
We thought it's a cool place for Louisiana,
and we're all about Louisiana and our heritage,
and we thought, here's this place out in the cornfield,
and nobody's doing anything with it.
And the support from all the people that live around there for us fixing it up and returning it.
Because it's a historical.
Oh, it's on the historical registry, you know.
I mean, look, the outpoint has been awesome.
Like, the whole community rallied around us,
and they're like, awesome what you're doing.
And it's cool.
But I've had the most fun out there finding all the historical.
And you just did it because you don't want to be bored.
Like, you were just thinking.
Oh, because my wife's like, come help me, you know.
Well, I got out there and did this.
I'll tell you, this is not a funny story.
This is a point of conflict.
But I'm out here when I first.
In other words, don't tell me to you.
Yeah, don't tell me.
She don't listen to this, so we're good.
But look, so I'm out there the first two weeks.
She'll never even know what happened, except that you're elaborating on a podcast.
You taught me something a long time ago.
It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
I'm telling this story.
The first two weeks, I'm out here with this metal detector.
Well, anytime it went off, well, I dug it up.
You know, I hadn't learned that after a while, you're like, no, that's junk.
Keep moving.
You were digging everything.
Oh, I dug up everything.
You're a little gopher.
So this thing, well, went off.
And so I...
Your yard is looking like that movie, the Woodchucks and, I mean, the golf is the fucking name of it.
Are you talking about old bug eyes, the comedian, he was on a, you know, the tough crap.
Bill Murray.
Oh, it's a caddy shack.
Caddyshack.
Yeah, with all the gopher holes.
You know, you got holes in every direction.
I can't believe you made a caddyshack reference.
That's pretty amazing.
I'm impressed.
Yes, but to answer your.
Question, yes, that's how my yard looks, because you can tell where I've been.
But it's good for your yard.
Wink, wink.
So I'm out here.
You're just aerating.
The detector goes off, and so I start digging.
Well, all of a sudden, because I keep digging, I can't find it.
And it turned out to be a ring off of a whiskey barrel.
I mean, this thing was this big around.
Well, they had thrown the whiskey barrel into the trash bin.
And I had stumbled up on the trash bin.
So I started saying all this glass, all this broken glass.
Well, I found a bottle that was intact.
Of course, I'm on my way to the whiskey barrel ring that was full of bottles.
But when I went home and Googled, it was a Listerine bottle,
and it was, because it was dated when they quit putting court as the lid in like 1925.
And when I, the Google search I was looking at, they were like off,
they were asking $12 for the bottle.
I was like, I got to go back in that hole.
You know, I found a $12 bottle.
So look, I dig a 4 by 8 foot hole.
And I got over 100 bottles intact.
Well, here was the problem.
I got this turned into about a three.
You dug a grave is what you do.
Three-day operation.
Well, look, I'm oblivious of the world around.
I have gotten so into this.
So my wife.
That's a shock.
Look, she walks, she's walking through the yard walking toward me.
And I've got such a hole here.
My head is, I'm below the ground.
And so she walks up.
Well, look, I looked up out of the hole.
And look, she didn't say a word, but her lips started shaking and just, she started crying.
I was like, I said, look at all these bottles.
She said, we have a wedding here in like three hours.
I was like,
But look at all these bottles!
And you're literally in a grave-sized hole.
It's like treasure hidden in a field the kingdom is when you find it.
He hid it again.
Then in his joy it went and sold all he had and bought that field.
So that was my point.
Look, I had to put all the dirt over the hole.
Yeah.
And I'm like, but my point was about reading that scripture is,
Basically, me finding treasure out there.
I mean, I'm glad I own the place because I've spent a year of just,
this is like the greatest hobby I've stumbled up on.
And look at all this stuff of film.
And we're actually, you know, having fun together.
But I've learned that if I'm anywhere a week inside of any venue,
okay, no treasure hunting, you know.
So I'm, you know.
Well, I'll tell you one thing is that that parables always came across to me,
which is a side point, but it's a good one.
and I've heard you in Murray talking about it is that there was also a great integrity in the text.
In other words, he didn't just go take the treasure because the field belonged to somebody.
That's stealing.
So he's saying, I bought the field so the treasure would be mine.
Well, that's a point of integrity.
And so you guys, you just don't go look at it.
Oh, no, there's a code of ethics on it.
See, I like that.
That's the way it should be.
You don't just go on somebody's property and start taking stuff.
That's wrong.
But the bottom line is, you know, I like it.
that Jesus mentioned this because, you know, the process is tough.
It's not easy.
You know, you're, you go treasure hunting all that.
You're exhausted.
I mean, right now, I mean, I'm sore from doing all that.
I have zero desire to do this.
But the payoff is when you find something that's awesome that someone discarded.
I think about that Luke 15 story where the woman had the coins, you know,
which kind of the theologians say it represented like their wedding ban with 10,
coins and you lose one you're like oh no big deal but to her she swept her house till she found it and
when she did what everybody's excited you know i just love how that's related to jesus because look
i'm out there just sweat pouring dirt mosquito bitten finding a bunch of junk and then all of a sudden
i found that rare coin 1851 i'm running through the yard you know i did that yesterday when i found that
I mean, I was like a little kid.
That's the first thing he showed me when at Carly's baptism, he was like, look what I found.
There is a parallel.
I walked up to Missy and I was like, look what I found.
I mean, like, well, you're going along in life and all of a sudden you run up on a story
and a person that gives you immortality.
Yeah.
Well, it is something to jump around.
It is.
Well, that's the application for today.
We should be running through the street.
Look, running through the house said, I found Jesus.
It's the greatest.
I found your mortality.
It's the greatest treasure, which is the ultimate point of what we're doing on the podcast.
So in closing, I'll say this.
For those of you, a lot of you cross over and subscribe to Dad's Show in the woods with Phil,
which is on Blaze TV, and we appreciate you guys that do that.
So for you, you guys, we're doing an episode about the baptism.
So we have a video.
It's about a four-minute video of my granddaughter getting baptized.
Really cool.
At the end of the video, I told Dad, I said, Dad, I'm going to send this to Hannity.
Because, as you know, from the podcast, we had Sean on the show, and we were on his show.
You know, he and Dad have this ongoing thing about him getting baptized.
But he doesn't like the snakes or the gators.
Right.
So I sent Sean the last night.
I sent Sean the video.
And so he always texts me late at night, I guess because he gets home late.
But he said, ha, ha, I'm in 1,000 percent.
He said, tell Dad, no alligator.
So we got a pool for you, Sean.
So that's kind of ongoing with hand.
It's going to happen.
I know.
He says.
It doesn't make sense.
Look, if you get God's spirit, why are you scared?
Even if you get snake bit in the water, you now have God's Spirit.
You just go straight to heaven.
Go to heaven.
Where's your courage, man?
His faith needs to be slightly stronger than it is.
His current time.
He's coming around.
He's coming.
He's a good dude.
All right.
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