Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 588 | Missy Reminds Jase to STAY IN HIS LANE & Phil Recalls His Childhood Hustle

Episode Date: November 27, 2022

Jase asks Missy why the trees in his house aren't even real, and Missy reminds Jase to stay in his lane! Phil recalls a favorite childhood game he and Si used to play, where they would hustle other ki...ds out of their prized marble possessions! Al discusses the duck migration picking up after the recent heat wave subsided, and Phil talks about what started his interest in hunting in the first place. And Jase asks the question, "What would you do if you only had one week to live?" The Blind hits theaters in 2023. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashame. This is a happening. This is a happening. Zach is here. It's a big day. In studio, we had to get in position over there. It only took us 30 minutes to get him in his spot.
Starting point is 00:00:21 And I've been told not to turn to the right or the left. Just stay straight arrows. This is like your spiritual life. straight arrow. So welcome in studios, Zach. It's always good to have you down. So tell everybody what, can you tell everybody what you're doing here this week? Yeah, we're just doing a little bit of movie prep stuff. So we're, I'm down here for the week. Yeah, movie prep. Yeah, we got a movie working on a movie. We got a movie cover. We've only announced it about five times on the podcast. Adorsment. Jason, you can go to, he's right on the cutting edge at Jason. You can go to the blind
Starting point is 00:00:58 movie.com and put your name in and you'll get, we'll give you updates on what we're doing. Oh, I thought I was, you were going to say they were going to send me a prize or something in the mail. Yeah, we might do that. Yeah, we may just randomly select some people. You may, you may get a, um, oh, this is a movie by a feel. Okay, well, I forgot about it. A lot of us, I've been busy. You have been busy.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Did y'all miss me? I wasn't, yeah. We did. We told everybody we were sending you out for stories, uh, and, and, and music. because we like it when you get out there in the world. No, I've noticed y'all have become kind of like my marriage. It's not very often, but every once in a while, you know, you just need some space. Just a minute.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm trying to find that Bible verse. You need some space. Well, it was y'all's idea not mine. It sounds like the Apostle Paul, people who marry. will face many troubles in this life. Here we go. I want to spare you this. No, for the record, I said, I will be here.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I will, I will phone in. And y'all said, no. So I took that to mean, we just need a little space. We had side to you. I understand. Yeah. So we had sign stone on, Jays. I bet that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:22 It was. And what was really interesting is that once we got going and talking about, we went way back. assigned. I heard some stories I'd never heard before. You know, he's hit another gear. Nobody else had either. No, that's what I'm saying. He's hit another gear. The last time I talked to him, I heard at least five new stories.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah. I was like, saw. Yeah. He said they would play marbles, and they would shoot the marbles that, however the guy. And they would spin. He said they had so much force that they would spend so fast. They would bury themselves in the wooden floor. They were going so fast.
Starting point is 00:02:56 They were going so fast. A little out of line on them. No, hey Phil. Hey. What he meant to say was there was, as boys, young children, the shooting marbles was top, top of the heap. You know what's one of the- That's what all children did, males, no girls, no girls. At most sites I go treasure hunt, do you know that I find a marble or two everywhere I go?
Starting point is 00:03:23 I have a whole box full of them. How do you find marbles with a metal detector? They're laying on top of the ground. Because the tractor plows them up. Okay. Yeah, I have many. I have found many. So that's, so you aren't, your crew wasn't the only one with the marbles.
Starting point is 00:03:37 That was a. No, that's just what, to Phil's point, a marble holds up well. And 100 years ago, everybody played marbles because they're all over the ground. They found, news got out about somebody who passed on in the Robertson clan. But, and one of my cousins got word that they, There were some marbles in behind some boards in that old cabin we were all raised in. Somebody had put them in there, and they were there. It was marbles, been there for 40, 50 years.
Starting point is 00:04:11 A stash of marbles. It was a coveted thing back in the day when we were kids. Is this something like driving? So if we brought marbles, could you still go back in the zone? Well, it was a skill on what you could do with your thumb when you were, you know, When you had knocked theirs out of the way, if you can hit it right, and yours would still stay there. That one you knocked out of the way got outside the circle.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You pocketed that. Well, we just kept strapping and on dead by the marbles there, the money. No one had a dime coming from out in the woods. When we migrated to town, Marbleplan was the way we got back at the... It's like one of those things when you eat six subs. Where you get? Another sub. Marvel's like, okay, we got a big pile of marbles.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But could you sell them? I mean, was there? Trade. Trade marbles for Coca-Cola's and trade-nals and trade-nals. I'm seeing all this in the ground. When you said, we didn't have a dime. You're seeing it in the ground. You said, where do you marbles come from?
Starting point is 00:05:09 If you had a dime and lost it, because that's what I'm mainly finding, dimes and marbles. Your record as a male human being, young person, was how well you played marbles. Boy, that's, that's depressing. Times have changed. I'm just telling you what the code was.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Well, yeah, I know. I was just thinking, dream bigger. I mean, there was a statement you would make. When you shot with your thumb, you put your hand on the ground, you got a circle, you put all your marbles. Somehow they ended up in a circle. But you would go around, and when you hit theirs, you had to hit theirs without touching yours. And you knock theirs out in a circle, and you would say nothing. Pools.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Poole? I was like pool with us. You'd say nothing. Meaning, I got yours, but mine's still there. I got shot number two. Is that how you said it? Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Nothing. And you tried to rub it in a little bit? Nothing. At what point did you start rolling on the ground fighting over a marble dispute? Oh, I could do. There was some fights. The fighting came later, you know. Everybody started playing football.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Let's get it. Bring back the marbles. With us, it was, I remember it was Domino's. it was spades. Yep. It was cards. Yeah, cards. A lot of that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Sometimes Monopoly. Now you're getting up into the teenage. I've seen a lot of fights with a monopoly. Right. You're getting into the teenage childhood children. No, get them out of the way. No, it's too serious to game. Now the cell phone has been introduced and it just killed the video games.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. And the video game. I've never been the same since cell phones came along. Well, Phil, you'd never changed you a bit. It changed me. I changed me in my head on what people do about one device getting that involved in it. It was just too much, way too much.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Young people, way, way too much. You either have to censor it or cut out whatever, all these wicked things. You know, it's funny. I thought about that when listening to you and side talk, I thought, you know, it is interesting. You got two characters here that have more personality and creativity than just about anybody I know. but to hear how you grew up, barbed wire fences and wasp things on the butt and marbles.
Starting point is 00:07:28 No cell phone needed. You didn't have any of that. I mean, you guys are, I mean, there's something to be said for that. Yeah. We still don't have anything for us. Jay said, so how did this, how did your love for hunting begin? And he said, poaching. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We didn't own any land. I just wasn't expected. Poaching. And the people who did. That answer. We never stole anything like equipment, firearms, motors, trinkets, nothing. As long as it fell off of trees, it was in. We could pick them up.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We took that as... The almighty provide... We justified theft of pecans, peaches, watermelons, fair game. It is interesting that now as landowners, we have a little different... A little different perspective. I'm sure. What are you doing? Well, I'm just here going to say, oh, mighty profited it.
Starting point is 00:08:27 We're going to talk about that later. The Lord needs it. That's exactly right. Let's change it. So, Jay, so you had to, you enjoyed your days off? Or, you're kind of? Days off. No, there wasn't no day off.
Starting point is 00:08:40 The only reason I wasn't here is because we were working on our other venture, the treasure hunting on camera. Right. And, you know, it was a blur. I've been all over. I mean, I've been various states, and too much happened for me to really, one thing doesn't stick out. But he basically went coast to coast. Right. So I think it's going well, though.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You know, you never know how these things are going to turn out because it's mostly off the top of your head. And just you go out there and who knows where this is going to leave. I think it's going to be good. Some of the things you've told me about that we can't talk about on here, I think it's going to be funny. good. No, that's exciting. Yeah. What else is happening? What else is happening? Duck season's fixed to be here.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. We're five days out. Are you excited yet? I've been excited for about a week. All right. That's good. The excitement hasn't hit me up. I was doing it all. There's a lot of work. Yeah. You know, putting in dumps, dams, pumps, this, that, and the other. At one time, I'm like, whew, man, I must be getting old around here because this, this, just to get this thing ready to duck hunt,
Starting point is 00:09:53 it's quite the job. And you actually have way more help now than you used to have. Way more. Stone and his crew. Dad, so the way I describe it to audiences around the country, what I'm talking about, our family, is you're like a five-year-old on Christmas Eve on the night before a duck season, right?
Starting point is 00:10:14 I mean, you still have that same wonder. Watching the sun come up Saturday morning. And he started hearing these ducks and way off in the distance, I said, uh-oh, I said, I hear somebody just emptied a gun on that bunch. They're over there in the Delta, rice country. We're in the woods. The wind's coming this way, so that sounds traveling. The wind's right.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We say, good night. They're there. You ready. They're coming. When we hear gunfire in the distance, that means you have a better chance because they're stirring them. Last night at 10.30, I heard something. I walked out on my porch, and I mean, it had to have been a huge bunch of specklebellies coming across.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It must have been fairly low because they were loud. Sure sign of a flight. When you hear the speckle bellies, you say, it's on a chicken tail. I saw them a couple days ago. I told you about this before we started filming. It was about an hour before dark. I was on a huge river, and I just looked up, and it was like the migration was happening. Because, you know, all of a sudden, it went from being hot in a drought to cold everywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yep. And I saw them ducks bunch after bunch after bunch. So they were trying to film, and I was like, hang on. I said, hold up. They're like, what? I was like, I'm watching the migration happen. Yeah. I said, y'all need to film this.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Get ready for the Canadian National Anthem. And they were, oh, Canada, that's where all the ducks are coming from. Did you break out in song? That was too, yeah, that was too fast. I tell Canadians every time I meet them, I tell them. Oh, Canada. That's how I start. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Well, I didn't know how to work. Did you meet the couple yesterday at church from Saskatchewan? Yep. Yep. They were down. We talked ducks a little bit. We had two baptisms, which is good. So the guy, one of the praise guys told me that he looked over his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:12:14 They're practicing getting ready for their deal. and you slipped in the water. They didn't even know you were back there. You baptized somebody. And then so they were singing. And you said, hey, keep the singing going. And you asked the woman, you were about to baptize, what's your favorite song? She said Amazing Grace.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So they just went into the... She's standing in the baptism pool. And I took advantage of the situation to our song people, the singers. I said, keep that going while they're standing down here because they're fixed to be born again and have eternal life. So, Weatherford, you know, our old pal, Weatherford, he was telling me that, so they're singing this. Yeah, they were just licking me when I was telling. So he's talking to this woman explaining what she's doing, and they're singing Amazing Grace, My Chains Are Gone. And he said, she goes down the water, and when she comes out, they hit the, my chains, oh, I got in that moment.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And Weatherford said, My chills got chills. And you know what the woman did? She wept. Yeah. I thought, what a cool serendipity that was. I mean, they just happened to be up there practicing when dad was baptizing these folks. We had covered the gospel, which is all I cover every week anyway. I just covered the gospel.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And all these texts that we read in the book of Mark, we're in Chapter 8, but we're fixing to get into it. We're going to Chapter 11. Dad, you may be in Chapter 8. We've moved down to Chapter 5. I'm climbing up in the rear because it was all the way to Chapter 8 before they said, Jesus said, is going to be betrayed into the hands of men, the son of man. It's going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And after three days, he will rise from the dead. Well, that's what I told the people then, as I pointed to the arrow coming down out of heaven, I said, here he comes. Look what's waiting for him across. Look at a tomb. It's empty now. He rose from the dead. So two said we won't end.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And then three more after that. Let's take a break. Oh, there was three more. Three more after my service. Hey, there you go. So just to mention this, because there were some came late yesterday, and they said, man, I had no idea. So all of our listeners out there, so every Sunday, dad does a class. We call it the Unashamed Bible study because of our podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And so he teaches that every Sunday at 9 o'clock. So if you ever coming through here, make sure you get here at 9, they'll tell you where to go to hear a dab, but I mean, every week. And the good news is, with both you and myself, we don't mind other people doing what they got to do, but it's free. It is. It's free of charge. No money changes hands. We're volunteers, which is Mr. Volunteers. So, so we're actually in Mark Chapter 11, Chase, we got 10, the rest of 10 while you were gone. And it was perfect with you coming back in because we're at a really pivotal shift that Mark is in our story. That made me think of a question. If you only had a week to live, what would that look like?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Well, Jesus again predicts his death. It's chapter 10, about verse 34, 35, 32, the son of man to be betrayed to the hand. He's announced that a few days earlier. He repeats it repeatedly, everything begins to change and to shift to a new dynamic. One thing is to say, I'm going up to Jerusalem, I'm going to die, and I'm off all victim to the hands of the most religious people on the earth that I've been going back and forth with here this whole time, and I've got people writing down what's taking pace, and here's what I'm fixing to do. One thing is to predict that. Yeah, I'm going to die guys. You know, it's coming up. Then I'm going to, they're going to bury me. In three days,
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'll be raised from the dead. I mean, that's quite the statement and just keep right on talking and doing what you've been doing. That's quite the statement to interject. Oh, by the way, I'm fixing to die, be buried, raised from the dead. And they're all standing there looking at each others then because they were thinking, well, you're going to do what? The pivot here was, It subtly happened at the end of chapter 10. I don't know if y'all talked about this, but when the blind man is on the road and he's hollering out, Jesus, son of David, have mercy on me.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He's, you know, this son of David is declaring this is the coming king that was to come. Yep. And so this is the first time that he wasn't trying to make that a secret anymore. He's now. That is correct. Gone publicly. And he does two things.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Now, Mark doesn't record. of them, but we know, I think they all record about the coming in on a cult of a donkey. Yeah. But Jesus actually orchestrated that. All of a sudden, that's the biggest pivot. It's like he went from saying, keep this a secret. It's not the time. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Don't tell anybody about this. To now saying, go down here. You'll find a cult. Yeah. And so he is announcing the king is here. Right. So he's been acknowledged by it, and he's not. I mean, he's like, call him, bring him over here, the guy, you know, and he actually healed him.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And he does that. And then there was when he needed the upper room, he said, go down there. You'll find a guy carrying a jar. I mean, it's a crazy thing. And he's like, I've already, he's already made all the preparations for you. And so you remember what happened there. So what I thought I'd do, you know, I asked this question. I mean, we always say if you only had a.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And my answer would be I would, my urgency would move to the, if I knew I had a week to live, to answer your question if it were me. I mean, all of a sudden, we know, right? If you knew that, it would definitely pick up. Well, what if you asked it this way? What if you only had a week to die? Because actually, we say that. We say, well, what happens if you only had a week to live?
Starting point is 00:18:37 But the reality is you only have. a week until you die. Jesus actually is the only person that he had a week to die and to live. Yeah. Plus the key little text, Jay's, while you're there, he looked around after his resurrection and he said, all authority, all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Yeah, well, this is post-resurrection, yeah. Because he had just fulfilled what he said he was going to do.
Starting point is 00:19:18 He did it to the letter. Well, and that's what... Therefore, go make disciples. I think it's the key... Baptize them in the name of the Father, Son, the Holy Spirit. It's really simple. I think it's a key point that you've made there, that Jesus orchestrates this event of the triple entry. And I think that matters because I think often when we want to,
Starting point is 00:19:38 when we think about the crucifixion of Jesus and what he's heading, because this is the last seven days, seven days of his life or death or however you want to say it. You know, this is the end, right? In other words, he had to die to save the world, and he outlines the entire thing before what happened. Yeah, and he was sovereign over it. That's the thing. Yeah. It wasn't, I mean, we want to think this is something to happen to Jesus, but this is something that he was willingly, like, walking into.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, he was into. Yeah, he orchestrate, I think orchestrates a good word. Yeah. I mean, I really, that, you know, I read this. I was surprised by a couple things. One is when you break out the four Gospels, Matthew, Martin, Luke, and John, and look, how much of the ink was devoted to this last week? That is the main thrust of all four Gospels.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. I mean, you're saying we're in chapter 11. We're going all the way to 16. Four men have written down. We've gone through two-thirds of the Book of Mark. So now we have the one-third left, and the last third of the Book of Mark is about seven days. Exactly. And the whole book of John. Yeah. I mean, John just picks up the last. By the way, in the midst of all that, technically eight, because that's the eighth day is a doozy.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh, yeah. In the midst of all that, why did he, what was when he said Jesus wept? You know, we, what was? Well, that's a good point, Phil, because now look, I think, I think this, setting this up the last week, there's a couple things happened. One, one I just pointed out. He's willing to go public, him being king. Now, him going public, when you read Matthew's version, off the top of my head, I think it's 21, he actually says the king would come, he quoted Zachariah, again, that's off the top of my head, so I may be getting the quote wrong, but it said he will, the king will come gently, because he was a humble king.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But all these people being gathered around were from, Bethany and Beth page, which is, look, these are the people, because Lazarus, who you just mentioned, that's when Jesus well, and Mary and Martha, he was spending a lot of time. There, these are his people. And so, like, with the guy when he says, go down here, the guy with the colt, tell him the Lord needs it, well, these are Jesus' people. They all have realized, oh, he's the guy. How can you prove that he's the son of God and fix to do this?
Starting point is 00:22:07 He said, well, he's riding up on a donkey. So these were his closest friends. And look, what I believe is the reason Jesus wept, even though he was fixing to raise Lazarus from the dead, was that these were his closest friends. When we hurt, when they hurt, he was moved by that. Are you talking about when he wept over Jerusalem? Yeah. I thought you were talking about when he left.
Starting point is 00:22:33 He was talking about Lazarus. I was just saying, why did he have to wait? Either in Luke or Matthew's account, as he's writing. in he weeps again. And I think is, but I think your point is the same, whether it was him weeping at Lazarus or this. It's the idea, it's the motion of the moment. I mean, he's saving the world. This is it. But in John 11, you have the story of Lazarus, and it's actually in this exact town, this village, what it says here of the triumphal entry as they approach Jerusalem at Bathage and Bethany near the Mount of Allahs.
Starting point is 00:23:09 He sent two of his disciples and said to them, go into the village opposite of you, and immediately, as you enter it, you will find a cult tie there on which no one yet has ever sat. Untie it and bring it here. To the place they went was actually the town
Starting point is 00:23:25 that Mary, when she anointed Jesus' feet, that's where they lived. So he did have relationships in this town, which makes sense of maybe why he, if he did orchestrate this, you kind of see there's a history there. Let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Another thing is, when we get to Mark, was it 13, when he's going to describe what's going to happen to this city, you know, if you think about Jesus, he's in a body, he's here, he's in time, but remember, he was outside time before he became one of us. And so he already knows what's going to happen to Jerusalem. And it's very bad what's going to happen there. That is correct. And look, so a lot of people that, that obviously, he's, He wants to cross over or not going to, and it's going to be a bloodbath there in 70.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So I've always thought maybe that's one of the reasons. Here's the Jew of all Jews because he wrote the law and dies to get him out from under what he had them right down. Try to convince him, you never kept it. Right. Well, it was just a big, this is the cosmic change of our world here. And he's lived his life and become a human in humility to do this. I mean, there's a lot of details of what these next seven days are that are very moving. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And are very curious. Even the idea of him being, I was making the point about him being a gentle king. I mean, I don't ever doubt it. He has the power. But he basically came here and he's weeping. in moments, which just doesn't sound very kingly. And I thought about this, even the idea of coming in on a donkey coat. Any other king, if they went into battle riding a donkey coat,
Starting point is 00:25:19 well, they're going to be the first one to die. You know what I mean? You can't control it. They would want one of these stallions. You remember what I mean? I mean, I mean, the member of the Eastwood movie? Oh, two mules for sisters, sir. I thought that, you know, with that little ding-de-da-ding.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Here comes the king riding into battle, riding a little coat. ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, he's dead. I mean, because you just, you're an easy target, and they're uncontrollable, and it's just not powerful. You talk about going up hills, dodging arrows or spears, or, and even when you look, when you mention the triumphal entry, you know, the people, I guess, who produce these Bibles, you know, they put that heading up there. I mean, Jesus didn't say I'm fixing to make my triumphal entry. That's what we put. But when you look at it, the world would laugh at that.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Of all the introductions of a king, this has to be the most eye-raising, eye-rolling entry of all times. You're like, oh, this is what you're going with, a bunch of poor people. And who was the prophet that predicted he would ride up on a donkey? That was Zachari. But then also, if you look at the others, even what the people were saying was Isaiah, Jeremiah. So all of this initial scene is that this had been predicted hundreds of years earlier. I think it was probably pretty powerful. I think it was a moment where it was like a populist uprising.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I think that's probably the scene. But I think it was his people. It was his people. You got to remember he had just raised lasers from the dead. So the excitement level was off the charts from those communities. And that's why he kept going over there. I mean, they got it. And so once he became public, I mean, they're like, we're going to take over the world.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Now, granted. Yeah, because he's up to this point, to your point, he's been saying, don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody. Let's go. Don't tell anybody. And now this, now he's orchestrating the moment where he's going to be like, yep. They're like, this is it. We're fixed to crush Rome.
Starting point is 00:27:24 We got all the things in place. This guy can raise dead people. He did prep them because in chapter 13, after he said, All this has changed. He come riding up. He was leaving the temple. One of his disciples said to him, look, teacher, what massive stones,
Starting point is 00:27:41 what magnificent buildings. Well, they've already heard him say he's going to die, be buried and raisement. Do you see all these great buildings, replied Jesus? Not one stone here will be left on another. Everyone will be thrown down. They were like, they were just stunned.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They were like, gee. So let's. What? So you can do. You got your eight days. do this. So I, because here's, here's what's hard, and I think this is why a lot of people have misunderstandings about what's fixed to happen, because you have four different
Starting point is 00:28:15 writers writing what happened, but they're writing from different perspective. You get four eyewitnesses telling you basically the same thing, but among the scholarly world, a lot of these things seem a little off time-wise. So I'm going to give you just the general outline of what happened the next seven days Because that's what we're going to cover because you got to remember most of these people Even the followers of Jesus didn't get it until day eight They just didn't get it Because nothing is making sense you're going to be a king
Starting point is 00:28:49 We're going to take over the world but you're coming riding on a donkey and dying Talking about you know Loving your enemies and uh What? I mean, it just doesn't. You're fixed to die and be never heard of like everybody else that's ever died. Well. Yeah, it's not making sense.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He's predicting his death. So you got day one, you have the, as we dubbed it, I guess, the triumphal entry, Palm Sunday. He's on the unbroken colt. But he's a humble king. It's humble. It's an interesting arrival for a king. Let's put that way. And a predicted one.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So then he goes that night. He spends a night back in Bethany. We're at the home of we're assuming this. Some of these are assumptions. I'm saying the timeline might be off one or two days because there are disagreements about. That's where Mary, Martha, and Lazarus lived. But don't miss the point. Don't miss the overall point.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So day two, which would have been Monday, he's back on to Jerusalem. And he has this moment with this fig tree. and we'll talk about that, you know, when we get there. But there's a couple that share that. I can't read my writing here. Oh, we overturned the temple. The tables in the temple. Remember the den of robbers?
Starting point is 00:30:12 So he goes to the temple, does that. And he inspected the temple courts. It says that. So he walked around. He's looking. So back to Bethany that night. Same thing. I mean, it's like a...
Starting point is 00:30:26 Which a Marx account. Yeah, he, it kind of falls off. Like a lot of people say it's an anticlimatic conclusion to this entry. He just goes to the temple and like looks around. You know, it's just kind of like, what? It is. It is interesting. I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So day three, Tuesday, he passes back by the withered tree, which I think their own purpose are giving you this image of him of what happened, which is him going back. Yeah. This is the week. This is how he, this is how he's, He's been in his last week here in this moment. He's going to the people with their trust on him.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Give him the chapter and verse. Well, the problem is I'm just combining all four gospels. You see what I mean? Because some of them don't have this. He's just painting the big picture. I'm painting the big picture. Because we're going to go into the details once we get in. So he goes back to the temple.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Now this time, he gives them the powerful sermon about you son of vipers. and you remember all that. So now we had a clearing out, and now we got a tongue lashing. Because by now we've ramped up the opposition. Oh, yeah. Big time, because remember, all this other stuff was happening off somewhere
Starting point is 00:31:40 and they would have to go investigate. Now, we're in home base, which is ratch. I do think this is interesting, because this is going to help us with this apocalyptic language that's used in all four books. That maybe not Johns. But so he goes to the Mount of Olives. I've been to the Mount of Olives.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It overlooks Jerusalem. So there, with the Jerusalem in the background, I mean, if you're standing there and you read what he said, you're like, oh. Yeah. It completely changed my life when I was standing there. It made me realize he was looking out there about, let me tell you what's fixed to happen here. Yeah. Same thing in Acts 18 with Paul knowing on Mars Hill. Once you stand on Mars Hill and you see the crop is right behind you.
Starting point is 00:32:24 It makes a lot more sense. It makes perfect sense. So hang on, Jess. Let's take another break. Now, meanwhile, while Jesus is given the speech, either this Tuesday or Wednesday, which is day four, Judas is negotiating this betrayal. So in Jesus, Tuesday that night, back to Bethany. Yep. Makes the trek back.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So now day four, Wednesday. Which is about two miles, by the way. Which is called spy Wednesday by some religious groups because that's back to the Judas. You know, Judas has this negotiation going on of betrayal. Now, from what I gather, there's a couple of discrepancies. Most scholars do not have anything that Jesus did on Wednesday, which I found kind of fascinating. Now, there was a couple things, but it made me just think, because basically now we're, this is the day before this whole thing is going down. I mean, it escalates quickly when you get to day five, because then when you're going to have the upper,
Starting point is 00:33:31 room, day five, the upper room, you know, the prep for the Passover feast, which is going to be really important when we compare what happened in the Passover. Where is that? Exodus 12 to this meal that, and I'm going to propose that they went from under Judaism eating a lamb, slaughtering and eating a lamb for. acknowledging their sins. Sin covering, yeah. Yeah, to Jesus introducing an idea that the lamb is no longer on the table,
Starting point is 00:34:09 it's with you at the table. He's declared himself the Lamb of God here. But we'll go through that. Which is why I call it the last Passover or really the first new. I mean, either one, it was a transitional meal. Yeah, Missy and I was talking about this last night because we were going, because Missy did a great blog a year or two ago. I think we had her own and she talked about it.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You can go to Missy Robertson.com and read it, but it goes through the last seven days. And so this is where he also washed disciples feet. Then you have later that night, the guard, this is day five Thursday. The Garden of Gassimony, you remember when he prayed with tears. Then you have the actual betrayal by the kiss. He's arrested.
Starting point is 00:34:51 You have Peter's Denial. That was a pretty big day. So then you have day six, which is the crucifixion day, the trials. The scourge. All that. Have the death and the barrel. Then Saturday, you know, the day Jesus' body's in the team.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And there's a lot of things that happen there. We'll talk about Nicodemus and who was that, Joseph. Yeah, Arimuthia. Yeah. And then Sunday, which is day eight. Now, this is why I asked that original question, if you only had a week to die because that's what we have. But he had a week, you know, to live. because here in day 8 Sunday something happened that was real hard for us to all get our heads
Starting point is 00:35:32 wrapped around but he came back to life so that's that's the outline of what's fixed at the last five chapters right and and it's good to know that because when it makes more sense when we start into it why this was such a big deal like you described jays it it almost seems because it's the donkey and all this fulfilling prophecy but this is actually the trigger that starts the passion. I mean, this is the trigger that starts at all, which basically not only ended and changed to how Judaism had been,
Starting point is 00:36:07 but also is the seedlings for offering salvation for everyone. Yeah, and I would argue too that when we read the passion of Christ, not to divorce it from the coming of the kingdom, because in verse 9, whatever, and this is in Mark 11, 9, it says those who went in front and those who followed, they were shouting, and they're quoting out of Psalms here.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Hosanna, blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessed is the coming kingdom of our Father David, Hosanna in the highest. So they knew that with this progression of Jesus and this triumphal entry, they knew rightly so that this was kind of this coming of the kingdom of God. What they didn't know was what that was going to be like.
Starting point is 00:36:53 They had no concept of what it would be, but they got at least got it right that like something's happening here they knew the prophecies they knew the daniel two stuff they knew all the daniel seven all that and they knew there's something to happen this guy's fulfilling the prophecy out of zachariah there's the coming of the kingdom and i think it's um not here on accident i don't think that jesus just randomly goes to the temple whenever he goes down into the into jerusalem the first place he went was to the temple and he looks around and he sees everything and And, you know, it doesn't say this, but it, but it kind of implies it because of what happens the next day. You know, he's, he's looking around and what do you think you saw?
Starting point is 00:37:35 No, he's, you saw all this stuff he was not to deal with the next day. Yeah. It's the outer part of it, which is, is turned into, you know, it's turned into Wall Street, you know. Yeah. It was what he's looking at. It's just, it's commerce. And they had, see what they had, they had actually brought into the, you know, the inner part of the temple, they had brought, they had actually moved the marketplace inside.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That's right. Because this is where you would go, if you showed up, you don't have a sacrifice, well, you just, hey, we got that offer to here for you. Yeah. But they were selling the Doves tent, like it was the Doves they were selling, which was for the poor people. Right. But think about what they're doing, really. Really, they're using God to make money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Instead of. They're selling forgiveness. Being used by God to help, you know, share Jesus. I think it's so key to understand that the temple in the Old Testament, that it was first before it was a temple. What was it? There was a tabernacle. Yeah. And the tabernacle and the temple both were the place where kind of heaven and earth kind of meet in the presence of God.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like this is where you would go to experience the presence of God. This is where God's house. You know, this is where God dwells. And so when Jesus came, I would listen to a sermon on Mark 11 from one guy, and he said, he said that in John 1-1, when it says in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. And then John 1-14 says that, and the Word became flesh. Made his dwelling on us. He said that that word is, it's, is God made, he got tabernacled with us. God tabernacled.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah. Like God's presence came. And so when you had this moment here where Jesus goes into the temple and everybody said, the kingdom of God's here, the kingdom of David, the kingdom of David is here. And here's the new king and he's riding down. He says, yep, I'm the king. You're correct. But in his back of his mind, he's thinking, but you have no idea what's about to happen.
Starting point is 00:39:38 He goes to the temple, the place, the meeting place where heaven and earth meet and he looks at what's happened to it. And he's like, this thing's going down. This temple is going down. And that's why the very next passage, when it talks about the fig tree that's cursed, it's a representation of Israel that you have all of the outer, it looks good on the outside, but there's no fruit, right? Which is kind of a prophecy of the coming of the Holy Spirit in Galatians chapter 5 when it says you receive the fruit of the spirit, right? There's a whole lot of implications there. But he curses the fig tree because there's not that he hates fig trees, it's just that it's not producing any fruit.
Starting point is 00:40:17 This is not what this was meant to be. This is, you've missed the whole thing. It has to fill in with this whole thing. Let's take our last break. Well, if you think about it, I mean, we'll get there, but what's the difference looking wise of a fake tree, especially now, and a real tree? I mean, half the trees in my house,
Starting point is 00:40:43 because my wife is in the plants, half of them are not even real. Yeah. And I'm like, hey, why would you have something that's not real? I mean, I just, I was against that. Because it looks good. Well, and I brought up this passage. Yeah, she needs to be rebuked.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I did. We need to start cursing those fake trees. I think she responded with stay in your land. Grow. But my point is, the real difference is one of them is not only does one of them produce fruit, the other one can never produce fruit. Yeah. You can't get it out of there.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And when you look at all the past. passage where Jesus said, I am the vine, I am the tree, or what about the one where he says, unless a seed dies? So around your household, no more plastic trees. Now, he lost the battle. I mean, Phil, I gave the rebuke. I said my case strongly. But it did not produce repentance.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Repentance did not occur. I do think what you'll learn in marriage is that there are some things worth going to the mattresses over and there are some things. I don't know if that's the right analogy there. That was my joke. That was my joke. I got you. I got it.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Read between the lines. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. There's some things that will keep you from going to the mattresses over. Oh, there you go. There you got.
Starting point is 00:42:12 But you brought up a good point about the connection to David. And I want to explain that a little bit because the audience may not realize this. All the key. of Israel, all of them, once they split, all this, God only picked one to be his guy. And he was David. And David was flawed. And, you know, there had some, he didn't even lay to build a temple because he had so much blood on his hands. He said, he was a warrior. But he was a poet. He was a musician. David was a very interesting person. But he made an eternal covenant with David. He said, the eternal kingdom will come from you. Your lineage. And, and, and, and, you made an eternal covenant. And,
Starting point is 00:42:51 And then, of course, the kingdom goes, it splits. You got all these different things. There was something very unique and special about that relationship God had with David. And that's why he made that thing with him. So what's interesting is these guys realized this in the moment. Oh, I think they knew. They linked it all the way back. You go to read Genesis 49.
Starting point is 00:43:10 There's even when Jacob gives the blessing to Judah. Yeah. How held the lion of Judah. That's right. And there's this picture of kind of God's sovereignty and power in kingship, mainly in the coming of the Christ. But it references the cult and the donkey. Oh, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I read it last night. Yeah. Yeah, I read that. But that's why I wanted to say, though, don't miss the forest for the trees. The reason you're seeing all of the, in my opinion, is my take on it. But the reason you're seeing, okay, yes, you know he has love and tears and compassion, but you're also seeing some sternness and you're seeing a tree get withered. and you're hearing him call people son of vipers.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Because you're seeing all God's qualities come together on the cross, which is justice, holiness, love, wrath. Because once Jesus declared publicly, I'm the king, what that did was, well, for people who researched this and have this encounter with Jesus like us, well, we love that. We see, man, God's love has no bounds. Look at what it took for him to pay the debts of not only our sins, the sin of the world.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's why we'll get over until the Passover and all this tradition that they've been doing for years, killing all these lambs. Because that shows you the seriousness of sin. They understood why God did that because there is a debt that must be paid. Now, later on, after resurrection, they're like, oh, and he just paid, he's the lamb. You know, these little sayings that you hear from John the Baptist, when he said, look, behold, the Lamb of God takes away the sins of the world. He understood it.
Starting point is 00:44:53 The woman pouring out the perfume. That just happened. It just happened before then. Jesus defender, because he's like, she knows what's fixed to happen. So some people were making, which, look, it's incredible faith and incredible imagination for them to get that this is the son of God. This is the king. It still is. But what it made me think, and this was.
Starting point is 00:45:18 was my final analysis on it, is that when Jesus, by coming out in public, he's basically saying, crown me or kill me? And that the line was drawn, because it's making one side furious. It's making the people, the believers. It made me think about that verse in Revelation 3 where it said, I wish you, you know, some of your heart, some of your cold, because you're lukewarm, spit you out of my mouth, because you think about, you think about the rich young ruler you start thinking about all these stories he's like I want all of you or none of you you can't this is not something you're just going to muse like oh let me add this jesus element to my religiosity yeah it was a declaration of that god is here I'm the king and because he's he's
Starting point is 00:46:05 completely disrupting not the disrupting is a strong enough word he's exploding he's exploding their paradigm and their system and he's doing it in the most provocative of ways because he's basically saying the law and the prophets, I am. And now he's saying, the temple, I am. The temple's going down in 35 years after Jesus' crucifixion. But he's actually challenging the response to him. You remember Nicodemus? He was like, what must I do?
Starting point is 00:46:34 The rich young ruler, what do I lack? And he explodes it. He's like, you need to be born again. Yeah. This is a complete explosion. Yep. And then a transformation and a new creation. It's almost like it's, it's almost like it's new wine being poured into old wine scouts.
Starting point is 00:46:53 That's what it sounds like. And give you a fist bump all that. Jay, says to your, I just thought about this conversation. You've got examples. Here's another one in John 18 when the conversation with Pallet and Jesus, Pilate says, take him yourselves, judge him by your own law. In other words, he's like, I don't have anything to do with this. But we have no right to execute anyone the Jews objective.
Starting point is 00:47:13 This happened so that the words Jesus had spoken, indicating the kind of death he was going to die would be fulfilled. To your point, just to crown me or kill me. Pilate then went back inside the palace. Some of Jesus said, are you the king of the Jews? Is that your idea or did others tell you about me? Am I Jew? Pilate said.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It was your people that had you over to me. What is it you've done? My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent any arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place. I mean, I don't know how you get around it. I mean, he's so powerful. This is the coming of the kingdom.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And he said, what did he say? What kind of stuff did he say that would make these people mad enough to kill him? Here's one thing in Mark 11, whenever he walks into the temple and sees what they've done to it, and there's merchandise that's moving its way through the temple. He said he would not permit anyone to carry merchandise at the temple. And he began to teach them. He said, is it not written? My house shall be called a house of prayer for all.
Starting point is 00:48:14 the nations, which is indicative of his inclusion of the Gentiles. Correct. But you have made it a robber's den. If you called, he's talking to the religious leaders, the ones who were the power brokers in this system. And he said, the thing that they held in the highest, supposedly held in the highest regard in esteem was the temple. And he said, you've made it a robber's den. And he actually called it his house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He said, you've taken my house and made it into it. Which was interesting because then one of the different gospels says the disciples remembered the verse that said, The Zeal for my father's house, which was interesting. I know we got to go to overtime, but I want to say this because there's going to be a theme. And somebody, I'm not sure where I got this from, but I read this somewhere, and I want to say it. Because I think one of the biggest arguments that people have is wondering why Jesus had to die. Yeah, we'll get that question. Constantly.
Starting point is 00:49:15 They, it's the number one question. And I read this somewhere, because I think in the last week of his life, and the reason I started this off with that question, is because whatever we come up with, because you'll probably be devastated when they tell you, you got a week to live. But Jesus embraced it, and he did way better than anybody else will do. But I want to make this quote, because the reason we have a hard time wrapping our brains around why Jesus died the way he did and came riding a donkey and all. That's what people are like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So I read this somewhere. Sin is a servant or a human putting themselves as king. Salvation is the king putting himself as a human or a servant. When you think, now look, it's hard to wrap your head around that. So I'm going to read it again. sin is a servant putting themselves as a king because we want to be king. Life is not, we want to do. We want to be king.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Salvation is the king putting himself as a servant, which is what Jesus did when he came here. Which is what he kept telling us this. I was all right, but that's, we'll need to unpack that a little bit. It's in our overtime. So if you want to follow us over, it's blazedb.com slash unashamed. If you use the promo code, Phil, you're going to get $10 off that subscription. So check us out. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.
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