Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 589 | Phil Exhibits His Zeal for Serving & Jase Analyzes Most Individualistic Society on Earth

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

Jase discusses the most individualistic society on the planet and compares it to the intense importance of the family in times past. Zach and Jase talk about the political reputation of Jesus and the moment he showed up riding a donkey. Phil gets excited while talking about servanthood to God and how many obstacles you will be perfectly prepared to face when your faith is in Jesus. The Blind hits theaters in 2023. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashamed. Still got Zach in the house. Still here. Oh, this was, I couldn't have planned this any better. Because I knew. Because what y'all don't realize is I know that when I'm away, not only do the cats play, but they make fun of the cat away.

So I thought It was suggested by one of the three of us, Jay's, on the podcast, one of the podcasts you weren't here, that we just spent the whole podcast throwing you under the bus. Who doesn't like a good roast with gravy? We roasted, Willie. So I knew. So I took that as an attack,

and I didn't know y'all were going to do it, but a little birdie told me that's exactly what y'all did. It was just, oh. Chase doesn't listen to the podcast, but he knows people. Yeah, he's got people. He's got people. I actually never listened to a podcast. So I came up with a way I said, well, how can I get them?

And I was going to wait until this podcast to do it. It was a trap. And I tested it with Missy, which did not go well. Shocker. So for all of you tight-fisted people who doesn't pay for bonus time, who don't, who don't pay. Did I say doesn't? He said who doesn't, yeah. He does not.

Who do not. Yeah, who do not. Who don't pay for a bonus time. Thank you, Mr. grammatical genius. I only hope to have your grammatical. Your acumen. English.

I'm sorry. Browice. How many languages do you speak? A lot. I'm telling you. But the language of love is the one he speaks the best. But thank you for that correction. Well, your dad was right behind me.

And the bastards agree English. I have two people that correct my grammar, Miss Ian's act. And sometimes dad, every once my dad will throw it. Yeah, he does. Well, Phil actually is qualified. Okay. He has a major in English, right, Phil? Or was it a minor?

Minor. Kinesiology. Most of them went with history, but there were so much crap being expounded on in history. I said, get me out of history. I don't want to hear him anymore. Thank you for that. There's a word. He's probably offended a few people.

But look, think of the alternatives on what he could have said. So what was your degree in that, by? the way. Business. Business. Oh, that makes it. Business. Well, you know what my degree was in.

What's that? Street smart. Come on. So. You tried health and golf just didn't work for it. But the school teachers of my generation, mid-early 60s, never did I realize that now they would be put in jail. What does that mean, Phil?

They would jail them for what they teach. Would they? Oh. Like, not back then. They would now jail you if you were, if you taught school like we were taught in college. They would put you in jail now. What were these subjects? Well, you know, I named the subject.

There were no. Oh, because you're saying in the politically correct world. That's right. Oh, well, half the shows that were running 30 years ago. would never make it. I mean, shows like Seinfeld. Yeah, it couldn't be made now. No, you can't be office.

That's the way with school teachers. They can't function anymore. To finish. Saturday Night Live was funny. You know, you couldn't even do those. Took them 60 years, but they got him. So to finish my thought, I came up with this idea. Because I was reading Mark 11.

We're here in the last week of Jesus. And last podcast, we had, you know, if you had a week to live, what would you do? Well, it wouldn't be as good as what Jesus pulled off. Right. Because that changed the world. But I thought about this, I thought was clever on the reason people have a hard time embracing Jesus or understand why he had to die or recognizing Jesus as king. Because he's riding a cold.

He doesn't have anything. So I just couldn't wait for it. And so in the bonus time, I asked you all the question. I said, who is the richest man in the history of the world? So this is a replay for you who didn't have. the bonus footage, which is a good reason why you should actually be a part of the bonus footage. You get to see the roasting that came back. And I got stoned by a watch in overtime on a past episode.

So Zach went with Solomon, excellent choice. Bill went with Joe, which was an interesting pick, but I see why he did it. In his day, he was the richest man. But Al went current, Al went with the most zeros, which was Bezos, which is. I was thinking inflated dollars. Which I would have thought Elon Musk would have made an appearance, but no. So you all fell for the trap. Missy actually said Bezos, but what was priceless is my two English consultants.

They had the same response when I said, well, the richest man in the history of the world was Jesus. Zach, I roll. Missy, I roll. Well, yeah. But then when they heard my point. Thank you, Captain of it. When they heard my point, which was. awesome. They said, okay, that was a good point. Because what my point was, we don't think of Jesus as

the richest man ever because he had nothing. He owned everything, but had nothing. And I went through the things that he borrowed. He borrowed the coat. Yeah. He borrowed the upper room. He had to borrow boats to preach from. He borrowed food. Really, the only thing they had when he died to to steal from him was what he was wearing. And what did he borrow when he died? A grave. Grave, yeah. So all these things.

But he really only rented it because he knew he wasn't going to be in there. There you go. Well, exactly. And he returned everything. It was a short-term rental. Short-term rental. Short-term rental. So Joseph, Arimathea, still wound up in that hole.

But Jesus didn't stay there. The main thrust to the point was that's the reason I think we missed. Jesus was a different kind of king. he was he's god in human form he was a man because you thought well he wasn't a man no he became a man his richest man ever visited but then it makes sense of all those verses when he says uh you know him being rich but he became poor for us he he owned everything but possessed nothing but he did it for us and it was all in response to that that phrase that it's amazing jace because i've always looked at that from the perspective of what we gained from seeing God in flesh.

You know, by seeing Jesus, we see the Godhead in flesh. But I never thought about until Dad preached a lesson about the supremacy of Christ at our church out of Colossians 1 and 2. And I never thought about what God gained from becoming one of us. Because to empty himself the way he did and to then have the human experience, I mean, that from his perspective, that's another answer to the question of why did Jesus have to die? Why did he have to come here? Why did he have to die?

He wanted to experience us in the way we are as well because those Hebrew writers said he was made like us in every way. And dad, when you did that, the resume of Jesus lesson, I never really had thought about what it was like for Jesus to be a human being from his perspective. Yeah. Which was very powerful in what he gained in from humanity. So again, and it had to happen the way it happened. Having nothing but possessing everything, that's the Jesus. Which is why I think, Jay, when he did come here, he just thought, I'm not going to own anything. No, and that's why when you go back to the rich young ruler that led to this, well, it makes more sense when you're looking at it from that perspective.

It's like, well, he gave up everything. And so it was all in response to this quote I found, I'll repeat, this is where we left off last by, guess that I had read this somewhere that sin is a servant putting themselves as king and salvation is the king putting himself as a servant which is it's moving it's powerful but it makes sense that when you have this what we deemed as the triumphal entry well most people who are who are not in love with Jesus thinks that this is ridiculous a bunch of poor people with some palm tree you know and their cloaks on the ground and putting the cloaks on the donkey and when in reality you know thinking a king is going to come in and conquer nations and you know we didn't mention this on the last podcast jays but that's a great point because when you this word triumph when you look back it goes back to the roman processionals when they would come in we have no banners here they don't have drums and i mean those were huge productions you know where's jesus bodyguards yeah you know this is Where's the chariots?

It's almost like a spoof on kings and kingdoms. That's it. And in reality, in retrospect, after day eight of this week, they're going to go back and say, you know what, this is the king. This is the son of God. But it's not until chapter 15, do we get somebody to connect the dots? and it happened to be an actual non-Jew. Roman.

Who said, this is Mark 15 in verse 39 after Jesus died. When the centurion who stood there in front of Jesus heard his cry and saw how he died, he said, surely this man was the son of God. Isn't that something? Yeah, it's amazing. There's a reference to the list for you, that's like the list of attributes. of servants of God. As servants of God, you say, boy,

you want me to start following Jesus? Yeah, we commend ourselves in every way. Great endurance, you're going to need some endurance. In troubles, you say, is that coming my way? Yeah. Hardships, yeah, that's what it means to be a servant of God. Distresses, yeah, that's what it means to be a servant of God. Beatings, that's what it means to be a servant of God, to death, by the way.

Imprisonance, rats, hard work. sleepless nights, hunger, and purity, understanding, patience and kindness, and the Holy Spirit, and sincere love, and truthful speech, and the power of God, weapons of righteousness in the right hand and the left, through glory and dishonor, bad report and good report, genuine yet regarded as impostors, you want some of that? Follow Jesus. You'll get it. Known, yet regarded as unknown. Yeah, they'll do that. Dying yet we live on. Beaten yet not killed.

Sorrowful yet always rejoicing, poor, yet making many rich, having nothing and possessing everything. There's a little glimpse of what it'll be like to come to Jesus. You all ready for that out there in the United States of America or what? Are you sitting on the side of your chair saying that's the one I need to start following? Where was that? That's going to take care of all my troubles. I think that's getting worked out.

Where was that? What pastors was that? That's in 2nd Corinthians chapter 6. God was, I mean, the Apostle Paul was speaking to God's fellow workers, and he was urging them not to receive God's grace in vain. Yeah, that's good. Look, this old thing about, well, how come I still got troubles? Because you're working with troubled individuals that are surrounding you by the millions,

And it's always been that way. I agree. Where's Jesus in whatever country does with this and that and other politics? They all dance all the way around it. By the way, in the last election, I never heard coming out of the Republicans or the Democrats. Not one word. The word is Jesus. I never heard anybody mention Jesus.

And all of the hollering in the elections and they can't count them, can't count the, Now we're looking on who won. I never heard anybody say a word about Jesus. It just kind of struck me. I said, you know what? You don't hear anything about him because they don't know who he is. Either side, in my humble opinion. Okay.

Okay. That rant was brought to you by. That was good. I agree. I agree. That was a good thing. Well, do you want me to read? Immortality comes.

It's tough, tough, tough, tough. good gal that's exactly right and i thought about that every time you read that i think about what jesus said about paul i will show him how much he must suffer for my name yeah suffering is a big part of it's a big part of it well that was the point we made about god she chose to save us through weakness not you know our strength so that's yeah and you get into this this entry of jesus that we're in right now i mean that's the thing we you you'll misread it if you look at it as just as what they say triumphal entry, that's not really what's happening, though. No, it's a humble entry.

I mean, there is a reference in Second Kings 9 of kind of another, who was it, Jehosephat, his son that was made the king, I believe, and they put the clothes on the ground under his feet and they did all that. Yeah, that's the quote that they're doing fun. Yeah. Yeah, let's take a break. No, that's a great point, because if you think about it, the triumphal entry. was when they stuck their head in that hole in the ground and the clothes were laying there and then he shows up.

Now, that's the triumphal entry. Jesus Christ, the savior of the world, we can say with a smile came riding up on a donkey. If you just look at it from the redneck world, you're all you're saying. That is scalding the whole one. That had never been ridden.

Think about that. Think about the implications. I thought when I read that, Jay's, what you were talking about a while ago, and they rivaled with him the donkey, I said, that is my kind of man. I read up on this. Because he got your raw power created the cosmos. He comes riding up on that donkey.

Somebody said, well, look like he'd have ordered like a, you know, like a leased of some fine-looking animals, you know. Arabian-Stallion. This isn't different. He got riding up on. a donkey probably sitting on the side like that. This is a different kind of kingdom, but I want to remind you, it was the kingdom that would crush all kingdoms,

and it itself will endure forever. That's Daniel, too. Yeah, I'm not sure that this entry was, I'm not sure if it was actually humble. I mean, it was humble, but I do think it was a, Oh, it was humble. I mean, it was, but I think it was a proclamation of his kingship. I think that that was, but I'm getting that.

As I'm going to read the 21. Matthew 21 says, They took, this took place 21-4 to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet. And this is Zachariah 9. Say to the daughter of Zion, see your king comes to you, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colp. Yep. I mean, I'm just, that word gentle is what I was. Not having a weapon.

Well, right. Think about it. And not being able to function on a battleground. it wasn't like they all had weapons and the drums. But I think that they thought, no weapons needed. But when they saw him, though, I think in this moment,

most of the people that are witnessing this, they're thinking, oh, okay, yeah, this is about to go down. Like political kings and a messaged. No, I agree, because why? What did it just happen? He had just raised a dead man from the ground. Yeah. Lazarus.

And they, and he's been going on. over there. They've been having... He'd right in there, no matter what he wanted. They were having parties every night after that. He keeps going back here. They keep going back. All the people are excited.

He's already showed him that he can replicate food or reproduce food, however you want to do it. He can cast out spirits. He can heal any disease, therefore any kind of injury that would happen on the battlefield. Now he can raise the dead, so you can't starve us. You actually just can't kill us. Yeah. So guess what? Just for fun, I guess he just wants to ride a donkey.

Plus, all that good medicine you're talking about, the power over disease and all that, you say, come down to a person riding along on a donkey. You said, he created the cosmos. But think about it, though. The richest man in the world. In real time, though, all this support, all the praise, all the hosanas evaporates when they see him hanging on the car. Ross. I mean, all of a sudden it's like, well, so much for that. I guess that didn't work out.

And as we go through this, you'll understand why, because this, it's just a hard thing to wrap your head around. What was you going to say about the donkey? You might read it. I mean, I think we've been. One of the soldiers say, Jace, while you're there, one of the soldiers just kind of watching the whole thing, he said, you know. Surely this was.

I think that guy was the son of God. Yeah. I think he, he should have said, watch. Watch out. Watch out. Which is interesting that a Roman soldier was the first person. Yeah. I think that's an accident?

Just watching. Just watching it all unfold. He was like, you know what that means? It's hard to buck your traditions. Yeah, it really is. And we get into traditions. Come out of the grave if you want to. Yeah, he saved others.

He can't save himself. That old soldier was looking around saying, you know. It's hard to be open-minded when you have. baggage. Yeah. It's hard to pour new wine into old wines. Be careful, be careful where you put your loyalty. I'm thankful for my father that early on in my life, I mean, I don't have a lot of

theological loyalty, you know, because we left, we left the church that we were in, the domination when I was 12, and we were rethinking everything. And I'm glad that, so I don't feel like, I, I really don't feel tied to any particular creedal system to the point where I got to defend this to the end. You know what I'm saying? No, I had that same thing happen. I was in my 20s and I was like, you know, there's a lot of these churches that have way more in common and I meant specifically a focus on Jesus than I thought.

Yeah. And so the splintered division of churches that happen in America, and I think it's more just comes out of this, you got to remember, this country is the most individual, individualistic society, I think, that's ever been on the planet. Yeah. I mean, it's basically my rights, my. Yeah, me, it's all about me. And so, but back in the Jewish day, they were so tied to their families.

One member of the family messes up, well, that's on everybody in the family. They're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You were so tied into the synagogue's temple system. And so you remember John 9 when the kid who was born blind and then he grows up and Jesus heals him. And they're like, well, we don't know what I'd because they were so afraid of being kicked out of the system. Oh, yeah. You know, it just totally had their thinking. We're in their now sight son.

He could see. It's like we ignore that because we're so locked into the city. We're so afraid. It's why this whole, Matthew Mark, these gospels that are talking about the coming of the kingdom, it's why they do have implications for us because we may not be, you know, running the synagogue, you know, but we still have our own version of that that we tie into. And then we're like, we got to make sure we, if I say that, like we have our own systems that we are.

Think about it. It almost begins to be a big power play with the rejects and the misfits. Yeah. I mean, you're like, this is the kingdom of the misfits and rejects. Well, it's, who wants in? Yeah. No world. Somebody other day told me, you talk about the populace uprising in America right now.

And I was like, well, you know, populism, you've got to be. careful with because, you know, the French Revolution happened as a result of a populist uprising. And that didn't turn out very well. Well, the people that, the popular people that began it all got killed by the next. Yeah, because it was, because it was based in man. And it was based, I guess, but what Jesus is building here, it kind of really is like a real populist uprising, like, like something that would really work because it's rooted in the Amago Day. It's rooted in an upside-down kingdom where little people matter, where there are no little people. You know what I mean? It's like a complete power paradigm shift.

There's none of this division. But the difference is. With Jesus of what color you are, where it's your background was, whatever. There's none of that. But no religion, no other religion, every other religion on the planet says, if you work hard and you, you know, you're strong enough, you can make it. This one here is he's talking about dying, you dying, you serving. I mean, that's what I mean. I think the basis, though, is what makes it stand out different because no other religion.

You take it. You take insults with a smile. Oh, well, you're supposed to be broken. When we did Colossians and when we did the book of Hebrews, it's that both of those books get at this message that all the things that the Israel kind of put on a pedestal, Jesus came and not just abolished them, he fulfilled them. You know, like, he fulfilled the law. He fulfilled the prophecy. He became the temple. You know, he is the high priest.

I mean, it's like, he's the lamb. He's the lamb. He's the lamb. And so, like, you get this person, like, everything is being fulfilled and accomplished in the person to Jesus. And I think that's why his presence was so offensive to the power structure because just him being there. I mean, you think about, like, heaven and earth are meeting. at this moment in a person who is God in flesh and it's just I mean that's why he said why did Jesus have to die I mean I pulled this up while I go in Galatians chapter four that goes to

the heart of his resume yeah yeah yeah that's his purpose for being that well it also goes to the heart of this is received this is not something you accomplish it's something that's received it's a gift it's in and in Galatians free unlike the Temple worship. Well, it costs, it's free to us, but it cost him as life, you know. Going back to our earlier question, though, and I think this is, you could ask this of Jesus in any regard, whether it's the law, whether it's the prophets, whether it's the temple, whether it's whatever.

But speaking of the law, Galatian says, is, why did Jesus have to die? Why the law then? Why even have the law? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through the angels by the agency of a mediator until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now, a mediator is not for one partly only, whereas God is the only one. Is the law then contrary to the promises of God, may it never be? And this is the line I want to hone in on.

For if a law had been given, which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. In other words, if you could have got righteousness, Anybody had kept it. If there could have been a way. If there was a way to make you right through the law, then, yeah, that would have been done. We know the purpose of the law is to make sin exceedingly sinful.

That's why he says here, but the scripture has shut up everyone under sin so that the promise by faith in Jesus might be given to those who believe. Rather than in everything, the wages of sin is death. in fact, everyone who sins breaks the law. In fact, sin is

lawlessness. That's why Jesus came and went through what he went through and did what he did. And that's why it was so easily missed. Let's take another break. So can I read this now? Yeah, go ahead. Hang on, before you do, let me read this

to this other point before you move on. Back to Pilots' discussion with Jesus. Don't you realize, Pilate said, I have power either to free you or crucivide in that moment. Yeah, he had power. I'm the power guy. Don't you realize what I can do?

Jesus answered, you would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore, the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin. Which is an incredible response because he's acknowledging, at one level, he's acknowledging pilot's authority and power. Right. But then he's superseding it by saying, oh, you got power. because I gave it to you before I came here. Weird conversation.

It's a mind bender. It's a hard to wrap you. Get us back to her today. So we have this pivot here. He just acknowledged, you know, yes, I'm son of David. He heals a guy. Chapter 11, he says, as they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethpage and Bethany, which are we've gone over, that these were the place.

He knew these people. They were his biggest fans. Now, granted, it was because the miracles they saw. That was okay. At the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples saying to them, go to the village ahead of you, and just as you enter it, you'll find a coltide there, which no one has ever ridden. It was unbroken.

What does it mean? Untie it and bring it here. Now, if anybody ask you, why are you doing this? Tell him, and this is where we're getting this king and this royalty angle. Because he tells them to do something that only a king could go out into the land and declare a statement like this. Tell them, the Lord needs it. And we'll send it back here shortly. Who does that?

I mean, if somebody knocks on your door and say, hey, the Lord needs this. What are you going to say? You tell the Lord, that's mine. If he wants it, come get me. Who was it? Who was it? When it came to one of y'all and said the Lord told me to tell you. No, there wasn't, no, who was it?

That's happened many times. And Phil, thankfully, gave us the response. You know how you come up with the response when that happens? Because Phil's like, well, the Lord didn't tell me. He should have skipped the middleman. I should have told me on this one. So if they came and asked for Phil's donkey, Phil said he didn't tell me. Which we've said, if the Lord tells you something,

that you can't cooperate with the Bible. Yeah. Yeah. But the Lord probably had already orchestrated maybe this event. There's a lot of debate here. Yeah. I mean, I read all the debates about it. Because a lot of people say, well, he was using this supernatural knowledge.

Yeah. My opinion is, I think he just, this is where he lived. And he knew all these people. And he knew who loved him. who didn't. Yeah. I'm sure he'd had conversation. I mean,

the Bible's not giving us every detailed minute of his 30 years. Because it doesn't really say. And it's controversial. But I think the point is, William and Craig makes this point, the point is, we have to recognize in this moment that Jesus is sovereign over his own death. Oh, yeah.

That he knows what he's getting into. He is intentionally fulfilling the prophecy of Zachari. That was done before the beginning of the world. That's exactly right. So he's not like. I'm sure he knew this guy that had a conversation. One day I may need this, this call. Okay, just let me know, you know.

Because it's like the Lord needs it. Okay. I mean, that's it. There's no, I mean, there's a lot of little subtle points you could make here about being coming to Jesus broken and the fact that he's riding, you know, an unbroken cult. Which means I heard the late R.C. Sproles talked about this when he and his, it has a whole thing. thing on Mark, and he talked about that this was, this was indicative of the kingship of Jesus, because a king, nobody rode the king's horse or the king's donkey or the king. That's a good point. Nobody wrote it. The only person that could ever ride the king's donkey was the king. So part of this

declaration of saying, go get me one that's never been read, a road is, is Jesus declaring his kingship and saying, like, when I come down on this cult, like, I'm making a statement here. And that statement is that I am the king. I'm the coming of the king. Never been ridden, by the way. I actually thought that. What did I say? He said never been road.

I said that to see if y'all would catch it, and y'all did. So congratulations. This kind of sums it up there, Zach. All the servant of God, this was said to Titus, the first paragraph. He was an apostle of Jesus Christ, that's who I am, for the faith of God's elect, He said, that's who I am, the knowledge of the truth that leads to Godliness. I understand that. A faith and knowledge, I have that, resting on the hope of eternal life,

which God who does not lie promised before the beginning of time. And at his appointed season, he brought his word to light through preaching and trusted to me by the command of our God, our Savior. He said, I'm just going over what Jesus has already finalized before time. So this wasn't an accident. This wasn't like, oh, uh-oh, the plan has changed. This was, you know, go get me a colt or right? No.

No, he, I agree. So verse four, they went, found a cold outside the street, tied in the doorway. As they untied it, some people said, hey, what are you all doing? Untying the coat. You got to, when you say that, you've got to push your hat back a little bit and have a cigarette hanging out of your mouth. Hey, what are y'all doing out there? Well, and they might have already reserved that for Jesus. And so they're like, who are y'all?

Okay, yeah. Somebody's stealing your donkey. Yeah. So they answered, as Jesus had told them, which was the Lord needs it. And so they let the people go. When they brought the cult to Jesus and they threw their cloaks over, He sat on it. Many people spread their cloaks on the road while other spread branches, the head cut in the fields.

Those who went ahead and those who followed shouted, Hosanna. And this is, where is this from? Some Psalm 118. Psalm 118. Hosanna, which means, you know, Lord save us, which is interesting that they're getting in here. Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord. Blessed is the coming kingdom of our Father David. So they're acknowledging he's the king.

Yep. Yeah. So Jesus entered Jerusalem, went to the temple. But since it was already late, he went back to Bethany with 12. All right. So let's take a break. So then the next day they're leaving Bethany. Jesus was hungry.

Seeing in the distance of fig tree and leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. Which is an interesting statement. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, may no one ever eat fruit from you again, and his disciples heard him say it. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables, money changers, benches of those selling doves, and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. and as he taught them he said,

is it not written? And I love this quote he chose from Isaiah 56. My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations, but you have made it a den of robbers. The chief priest and the teachers of the law heard this began looking for a way to kill him. For they feared him because the whole crowd was amazed his teaching When evening came, they went out of the city.

Now, I'll stop right here because what I concluded big picture-wise is when Jesus went public, people loved him and they hated him. Which is what the extremes, you're starting to see the extremes manifest themselves. You see it today, every day. Same thing happened in our lives. Yeah, the question. Look, when our little duck show came out at first, Well, people, the reason we had so many viewers, you know, like season two, Ian, I mean, we're getting up into the 12 million range. But once they realize, oh, wait a minute, these people are, they believe in Jesus, and they're using this as a platform to get Jesus out.

Well, you know what happened when that public knowledge happened? A lot of people loved us and a lot of people hated us. And I want to tell this funny story. Well, we were, I was talking. You read our YouTube comments. It's like, it's so funny, like, you, obviously it's skewed more to people that love us there, but they'll trickle in. And it's, but that's the thing. That's what they hate.

They hate the representation of Jesus. Well, I remember somebody sending me some kind of rating system of our show or whatever. And after, you know, all the controversy happened, and we, and pretty much we were out of the closet as far as Jesus followers. They showed me some graph. and the top, and it was like a scale from one to ten on people, you could like vote on what you thought of the show or whatever. And the top four were nine and ten and one and two. Yep.

Yep. You either hate it or love it. Yeah, there's no middle ground. There's no middle ground, which is very interesting. But I think you can see that here, and you also see the different attributes of God at work. here. Yeah, you do.

It may be with the frustration, which requires justice and holiness and forgiveness and a different kind of defined power that's going to really make the Jewish leaders uncomfortable. Because I think that's a question that you can ask here is why? Like, what is it that would make half the people hate you, speaking of Jesus here, and half the people love you? I think the people that hate Jesus hate him because he threatens their power.

Yeah. And the people that love Jesus, love him, because he gives them hope by his power. He so loved the world. Yeah. I just loved it. He so loved it. He sent his son, Jesus.

Well, it's like the reason that when we get to the burial, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, the reason they were secret disciples because they were both members of the Sanhedron, which would eventually contribute to Jesus dying. But you realize the reason they were in secret because if they go all in on Jesus, guess what?

They lose their power. Yep. I mean, even the believers had a hard time. Zach, isn't that the base of what the whole political divide is in our country today? Are the people empowered or are the leaders empowered? I mean, that's the divide by which we were divided out.

Well, eventually they're going to get it right because at the end they do the most serving thing. you could do, which was a service job of, of, of, well, you think about, like, yeah, our current political climate is, yeah, it's, but either, but to Phil's, and I realize there's nuances, but I'm saying, but both sides are divorced from, from, that's the thing. You've got, of the power of the people or the power of the, the tyrants or whatever, but it's like, like, like, anarchy or tyranny. Yeah. Which one do you want? I mean, I don't want either, and I think that what Jesus brought was a paradigm change and shift in power. So, like, when we're looking at,

What Jesus is saying is, and this is his kingdom ethic and kingdom principle, is that, is that to be first is to be last. So he's flipping the whole dynamic. That's the whole thing here. Like, I'm coming on this donkey. You people think this is going to be one way. Just hang on for just about six days, five days. Like, you're going to see what's about to happen.

It's not going to work out like you think. But there's a big butt there because of what Jason mentioned earlier, day eight. Like there's a big, that day eight's a big deal. Oh, they're going to, he's planting all these seeds so they can go back. And there are several places in the gospel where they said they didn't understand that the moment, but later they would look back on this and say, oh, oh, oh. And that's what's going to happen. I want to read this next paragraph because this is another thing we've talked about overall.

Before you read that, let me say one thing. Because day eight is huge. But day eight also paves the way Jesus said in the gospel, John, that he has. had to leave, he had to ascend, the ascension, you know, and that's very important, because if, if I don't leave, he says, then he's not coming. That's right. And talking about the Holy Spirit. And so the end of this thing is a new temple in the prototype of Jesus himself in his own body. There's a new temple that's going to happen when we, when we are united with Christ and baptism, and what that symbolizes in Romans chapter 6 is our body, now we become the,

new temple that the Holy Spirit lives in. So when it says God with us, Emmanuel God with us, and he dwelt among men, like that's, that that is fully accomplished through the Holy Spirit who now, I mean, like he is in us everywhere, right, wherever we got. Which is what makes the indestructible life. Indestructible life that we talked about for. Let's take our last break. Go ahead, Des.

So in verse 20, he picks it up in the morning as they went along. they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. So now, I mean, it's one thing you curse, but now this thing's dying. Overnight. Yeah, remembered. It was actually a miracle. Yeah.

Peter remembered and said to Jesus, Rabbi, look, the tree you cursed has withered. Like you surprised. This is what you call roundup. We're still surprised. Yeah. Just remember this if you're on the hating Jesus side. Yeah. You know, it's your life's not going to work out.

It's going to seem like it's cursed. and then in the day it's just withered. That's the final analysis. You don't want to be on the other side of this. Have faith in God, Jesus answered, which is, here we're back to this thing about, we receive the salvation from God. I tell you the truth,

if anyone says to this mountain, go through yourself in the sea and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore, I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it. There's our key word, and it will be yours. And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him so that your father in heaven may forgive you your sins.

And the reason I wanted to attach this to this, because most people, and in my past, when I read this, I was like, man, what's he talking about? I mean, if you say, go throw yourself in the sea and does not doubt it'll happen. I mean, seems kind of crazy. But that's why when you connect the dots and realize who you have, who you're surrendered to, he has everything. We just got through reading two chapters earlier, nothing is impossible. All things are possible for those believe because you have access to the richest man in the world, the creator of the universe. So when you read these statements, it's basically you have an unlimited amount of options, power being in him. Right.

So you can make statements like this because if he's doing what's best in your life, you're obviously going to be fine. Great things are imminent for those. Which is why I think he opens it by saying have faith in God. Because you got a lot of people say, well, I mean, I believe fully. This prayer didn't get answered the way. way I wanted it answered. I mean, this, Jesus must not know his time. I said, wait a minute. It said, have faith in God. What if it's not in your best interest? Exactly. That's where we're going to go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Dallas Willer talks about this in this book,

Renovation of the Heart, about when we're transformed into Christ's image, then we become the kind of people that get to do whatever we want, which is love Jesus. Right. Which is what you'll want. So it's, it's, that's the place. And I saw, I think when you, You mentioned in Jesus, we pray in Jesus' name and we receive whatever we ask in his name. That's a big point. Whatever we ask in his name. That's it. What's in his name?

What's in his will? What's in his character? What's in, what is God want? That's what we're, when we're asking for these things in Jesus' name, we're saying, like, this is for your glory, God. And so, like, that may, I may get that answer different than I'm anticipating because I don't understand fully his. Which is why he said when he said, you don't want to know how to. pray. And he said, that will be done. Your will be done. So it starts out with, I submit myself to God's will. And when he said, you know, give us our daily bread, he didn't say, pump up our 401k.

Yeah. See what I'm saying? I mean, everything was about. As human beings, if you go back to the rich young ruler, he did the same thing. He's repeating himself. But some people, especially religious people, when he got down to the end, he said, look, how hard is it for a rich man to get in heaven? He's like, it's like a camel going through the eye of the needle and then he says with man this is impossible with all things impossible then he goes on to say no one who has left home or brothers sisters mother father children fields will for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much at the present age and the time to come but as religious people we're like now when exactly because you said that and i asked for it where is it at right because keep looking out because

It's so funny because the Pharisees got this. They were tracking with Jesus with what he was saying, because what are the very next thing they went to? Who? Authority. Who? Well, what's the very next thing is he going to go to here? I think Peter said it best.

You were chosen from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, Jesus walking in there clearing out the temple. But with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect, He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. Through him, you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

Now that you purified yourself by obeying the truth, so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply from the heart. For you have been born again, but of perishable seed, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable through the living and enduring Word of God. And you read the Gospel of Mark, that's exactly, you see it unfolded,

exactly what he laid out there. It just unfolded. Had to be. Had to be, yeah. I love how he ends with this in Mark 11. Like the Pharisees obviously are filling. the threat to the power structure, which is, so that's why they,

they moved the whole conversation. They're like, well, you see you doing all this stuff, who's authority? Yeah. Because that's what, that's what you're getting to, even in the prayers,

even in all that, what we're saying is, I want, I want your blessing, God, I want your blessing, Jesus, but I want to maintain my own authority. I want to maintain my own sovereignty, my own autonomy.

Like, give me the, it's what, I think Mark Saris says it, it's the kingdom without the king. Without the giving of the spirit, there would be no decided change in the people. Yeah. The ones now, the ones who have the spirit of God in them, Peter was talking about it. Love one another deeply from the heart.

That's all that's required. It's not like with this work and that and me and doing this and doing that. Just love your neighbor. Love your neighbor. The next few paragraphs are going to get in in the next chapter, too, about the political ramifications, the him predicting his death again and who he's from, you know, through a parable. And this authority thing, which has been a constant theme since we started this. Who do you think you are?

So I'll just briefly hit it because, now look, he, Jesus, now you're talking about we have a lot of fun arguing and trying to get each other. But, boy, I tell you, when you have a theological dissertation with Jesus, I mean, he will shut you down. I mean, he came on with something. They've been studying this since the beginning of the time. He's saying, Zach, in your language, by-bye to eschatology. You won this debate.

So I want to mention that we can talk about it in overtime. So in verse 27, they arrived again in Jerusalem. And while Jesus was walking in the temple course, two priests, here comes the teachers of the law and the elders. and they said, by what authority are you doing these things, they asked. Because you got to remember, he had driven out the temple. He's given them this withering various messages that just ripping them. And who gave you the authority to do this?

Jesus replied, okay. He didn't say okay, but he said, I will ask you one question. Answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I'm doing these things. John's baptism, was it from heaven or from men? Tell me. It just, it was a mock, yeah, it was a cricket. So they started having private discussions. They discussed it among themselves and someone.

It was like a huddle from the family feud. No, I was literally going to say that it was like, huddle up, huddle up. Let's all get together over here. So if we say it was from heaven, he will say, well, why didn't you believe him? I mean, what are you denying what's heaven? but if we say it's from men, they feared the people for everyone held that John really was a prophet. Now, that's kind of a parenthetical that Mark put in there

because they're just like, for men, we're going to be throwing John to bat. He just died. I mean, that doesn't sound. I mean, what can we do here? So the only thing that's missing from this in Fabry Feud is the terrible answer that says, good answer. Good answer. So they answer, Jesus, we don't know.

Now, surprisingly, Jesus said, well, then neither will I tell you by what authority I'm doing these things. He never answered the question. No, he didn't answer the question. He didn't answer his own question because it really wasn't about that. It was about authority and trust. And because he knew the motive of their question that it didn't matter what he would have said. They weren't going to believe it anyway, which was this point. You'd place all your things on popular.

politics, which is what they were doing with John the Badd's. And they're great that you don't have hard-headed people out there now. Oh, yeah. That's why stuff, when I read this stuff like this, and I say, you know what, I may not be very smart, but I am in really good standing with the smartest person that's ever. Not only was he the richest man, he was the smartest man. Yeah. So that's it for this podcast.

We are going to talk a little bit more about that in overtime. And Jason, you're right. It was a good tease for next podcast because the next couple of the last couple of the last of things that happened, I think illustrate the authority, even though he doesn't get into it. Well, I was going to ask y'all who the smartest man in the world was, but I actually thought y'all would have got that right. Yeah, that movie would have got that right. You wouldn't get us twice.

BlazestTV.com slash unashamed, $10 off if you use the promo code, Phil. So follow us over, and we're going to hash it a little bit more on this. And let me say one thing if you're interested in the movie. I got to give the plug. Plug it. You got to go to the blindmovie.com, the blindmovie.com. put your email in, and we'll keep you guys updated on what we're doing. We're going to have prizes and special things.

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