Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 593 | How Miss Kay LOST an Entire Bowl of Egg Whites & Phil's Secret Cornmeal Dressing Ingredients

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

Miss Kay had set to work on multiple baking projects with her granddaughters when they suddenly realized an entire bowl of egg whites were whisked away to an unknown location. Phil discusses the list of ingredients he likes to incorporate into his cornmeal dressing for the holidays. Jase jokes about Phil sleeping in the duck blind, and Phil sees Blue for the first time in a whole year! And Al talks about how men think God set up a system to condemn men rather than to save them. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're back on Unashamed. We finally taught Dad into taking the day off. I was surprised. I'll tell you this. You want to hear something funny. I gave Phil 15 minutes today, which caused us to be a little late to the blind.

Because I didn't, you know, we don't communicate in our family. So I didn't, he just wasn't here. Yeah. I said he's probably not coming. him but I'll wait and uh barely said well why are you doing that I said well I know he'd do the same for me and everybody started whistling no he would not have waited but we waited to make sure and we went to the same hole we went yesterday as to not disturb anything so you wouldn't miss anything and we actually had a decent hunt it was good and your son's in town he got to go my son yep

and he got to kill a few he's quick you know you realize we're all getting old Yeah, the reflexes. Have somebody, you know, 27 years. Unless a wasp flies in your shirt and then you turn back the clock and the reflexes. You start moving quick. Start moving. Well, as quick as you can go, I mean. But panic movements are not the definition of quick movements.

Well, the most of the emails I got were commenting on how quickly I responded. I said, but you got to understand, that's just defense mode. It's not like I did that on purpose. When something is attacking you, you know, you just go into the zone. I've always been Are you feeling better, Phil? How do you feel? I'm feeling better.

It went from 15 minutes to when you wake up in the morning, or you need to take a leak. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. It was taking me 15 minutes to go from the bed to the floor, 15 minutes. I was, ah, I'd move my leg. What's that down to now? 15 minutes. Oh, it's down to 15 minutes? It's down now to a couple of minutes.

Oh, yeah. A couple of minutes now. I can get up. I've got a chair with a safe, one of them heavy safes. Dan rigged it up from me because there was nothing to grab a hole to you. On the edge of your bed, there's nothing there. You know, it's just the floor down there about three feet. You need some railing.

Yeah, so I needed something to grab a hole of. that final push. I'm sitting up and while I'm sitting, I'm sitting there. What if you tie a rope, Bill, from your bed plate? So if you press down on your legs, you got your legs. You told us that yesterday. I was pretty sure you wouldn't remember anything you shared with it yesterday because they had you on. You press both legs with your hands.

It can hear it again. On the way up and you can make it up. It's a knife in your back, but at least it's just. What about a rope tied to the bedpost? the door. Like the holes would help. It would help. Just anything to grab a hole of,

just grab an air. Well, I'll look in. You're in for some pain. We'll see if we can get that for you. So yesterday on the, or the last podcast that we had, of course, Dad was still a little bit under the influence of some of his medication.

And we appreciate him being a good sport. But he went out, you know, during the podcast and he gave Godwin $50 to clean the ducks. Which was unusual. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was just kind of a, I mean, it was a generous thing you did, but, you know, I just thought it was funny.

But anyway, so Godwin, I come out after the podcast is over. He said, I ain't taking this $50. I said, well, he gave it to you. He said, I work for Duck Commander, whatever Duck Commander tells me to do. That was a Gowan impersonation for you. Yeah, that don't know. He did an outstanding job with the ducks. They did.

great. If you pay people $50 for cleaning ducks, I guarantee you. It'll bring out the best in you. The $50 sometimes, even in America, it's a motivator. So here's what he did, Dad, that you didn't know about it until I told you this morning. So you left your coffee, um, pharmacier. And so he took your thermos and he unscrewed the cap and he stuck that $50 in your cup, screwed it back on.

He said, here, give this to fill. I said, all right. So I took it back over there with the ducks yesterday, but you had already gone to bed. And so I told mom about you doing that. And I said, but he stuck it in that thing for dad. And she went right over there and screwed the top and just slit that 50 right out. Yeah, you ain't going to get that 50 past her.

It was like a vacuum clip. Well, after listening to my daughters, Kay needs that to buy some more egg whites because they told me about the baking the pies. So she's baking the pies, and my two daughters are baking cookies simultaneously at your house. Have you heard this story? I heard it last night. And it was the biggest bunch of bull I ever heard in my life.

They lost a bowl of egg whites. No, they found them in the cookies. In the cookies, they finally found them. Well, but they made the cookies not taste good. Yes. You don't want to double. 12 egg whites. They're like, we can't find the bowl of egg whites, but these cookies taste terrible.

Like they have too much egg whites. They didn't know what happened to the egg whites. They all got to look. Finally, they tracked down the bowl that they were in, and they said, is it possible you could have taken these egg whites and made those cookies? And somebody looked at them. They said, well, they were bad cookies, but they were made out of egg whites. The problem is you're making meringue out of the egg whites. So the problem is you had the young up-and-coming cooks that are learning and the one fading cook that she knows a lot, but she can't always remember everything, together without, they needed one more person.

They needed like a middle gap in there, which Alex was. Your daughter did an outstanding job. She was there earlier. She helped mom do all the pies up to that point, and she left the egg whites there, and they kept calling her. She said she got four calls. She had come in and show me. She said, of these, the size cut-ups you won't. And I said, they're too small.

I said, make those a little bigger for dressing. So she did that. So I've got all these veggies that, you know, onion, bell pepper, celery, probably a little rack of garlic. I got all that going into meal, meal cornbread. So we're having our Thanksgiving tonight, which is a couple of days before Thanksgiving when you finally hear this. but so dad traditionally makes our dressing, which really goes back to your mom's dressing. Right to your recipe.

It is delicious. I mean, it's really good. I think that's how the term potluck got started because the older people get, it becomes a little bit of hit or miss. There's a hit or miss on whether you got the ingredients that were intended or remember in the actual pot. I never thought of it.

I was monitoring all that. Well, because I'm almost home. You got to go. back and get the rub sage turn it around go back we forgot the sage who was this doing the turnaround it was Dan oh

then he got down a little bit further and dad didn't have any ibupib profus back for ibuprofus so me I walked in last night and she said I just want to know so when we gather up as a family for the record

these cookies had way too many egg whites in them and it was not my fault because she said someone you have to yeah that's a rober submit you have to assess blame and you have to divest yourself of any potential blame yeah so you have raised her well jace but we have duck and dressing the ducks they've been on for uh two hours so we're about 45 minutes out when their leg you can put you the leg will pull off as you pull up on a duck that's when the ducks ready for duck dressing.

So that's your tester. That's right. When the leg is... I'm after the broth more than the ducks, but I'll have it array. If you grab the leg and it won't pull off, it's not ready yet. Yeah. But by the way, those ducks this year, I was really impressed on how fat they were this early in the year.

They're just as fat as they could be. And that's what makes the dressing so good, right? That's what makes it good. It's a duck fat off of there. But it is. It's a treat every year. And we have a big presentation when we take off the leaf. did because dad has the ducks arranged in a certain pattern.

It's pretty cool. Duck and dressing, we've been doing that since y'all were little children. I was as far back as that. We've been actually doing it. I have. My family structure is seven kids, but I was the only one that zeroed in on make sure you know how to make this dressing because you'll lose it, lose the recipe. Have we passed that on to anybody yet?

We've got to get somebody. I think your daughter. Okay, good. One of your daughters. We've got to make sure all these traditions go keep going beyond. All right, are you ready to get into Mark? Now, my first duck hunt this year on opening day, I could barely walk, but I made it, made it to the blind. So I found myself just asleep on the blind floor, and it would be boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, gunfire would go off.

And I'm lying there, and I said, so get them? I said, we got three of them. I said, how many got away? Well, three got away. I said, well, you got a shoot better than that. I'm lying on the blind floor dictating policy. You're directing from a semi-conscious state. I was part of the hunt, but, you know, didn't have enough strength to raise my gun.

Well, I mean, Dad, none of us questioned your toughness to give it the college try, but I'm glad you. But I will be there in the morning. and I think I can make it now. All right, we'll see how that goes. And I can't wait for you to see the podcast yesterday so you can see what all happened here. It was pretty funny. So we're in March chapter 12

is where we left off. Are we going to do this marriage at the resurrection? Yeah, yeah, that's where we're at. It's a dozy. This is another controversial paragraph. Just to catch kind of catch everybody, up because it's been a couple of podcasts since we talked about this. So we're kind of in that mode where all the, all the enemies are aligning. Which, by the way, Jason, did I say on podcast about

the Chosen? Did I mention? The Chosen, they did the movie debut, you know, the past weekend. Yeah, that was this past week. And they were, look, number either two or three out of all the movies in America. I mean, huge, huge, big, big win. Let's hope that. Yeah, I saw that. I was like, I hope our movie does well, too. I think that I think there's an audience for, you know, the people, people, there's not a lot of good movies out right now. Right.

I mean, honestly. So, I mean, I was, I was impressed. Like their first two episodes of season three. Yeah, and I think they only were going to do it like a weekend. It wasn't like it's going to keep going on. Yeah. Well, we were supposed to go. And, but then just.

I think I read it did over $10 million. Which is a lot for an opening weekend. Exactly. Well, it's well done. I was so excited when we went to the set this year. I told you on an earlier podcast, back up about 100, you'll get that take. But I was surprised at how, I mean, it's a big crew, and they are purposefully trying to make the greatest thing they can. Oh, it's fantastic.

Yeah, I was impressed. And again, thanks to Unashamed Nation, because you're the one that made us aware of it. We didn't really even know about it through the first. I've got to be good friends with Dallas and Amanda there. And they've supported our podcast and advertised on here. So I'm excited that they did great. Yeah, they're good folks. And thank you guys, all of you that went.

You were thinking about the enemies of. Well, I was thinking because of those episodes. And that's kind of where the storyline is on The Chosen, but it's the same where we are. These enemies are lining up against Jesus. And we talked about the Herodians and getting together with the Pharisees before. Then they come in. they try to include, which they really set the trap on the Roman, because ultimately that's where it's going to run into where this guy says he's bigger than Caesar.

You know, we'd get into that later with Pala. So now we have the Sadducees come along, which is. And keep in mind, too, the context of this is, like, there's a, the temple is at the, is at the center of this discussion. Like, this is at the center of the conflict. He just cleared it. Yeah, he cleared it in chapter 11. Yeah, because we get.

In chapter 13, we're going to get into what's called the Olivet discourse where Jesus is on the Mount of Olives, and he gives this discourse that we're going to. It's important for where the discussion is going, particularly where Jesus is headed. So the conflict that's the enemies that are coming at Jesus and are kind of coalescing against him at the center of the controversy is this idea of the temple, which is. supposed to be the place where kind of heaven and earth meet. So I just, I wanted to throw that in there. Well, and I think people had the wrong view of Jesus, even the religious leaders and some of his followers, the thinking that he was going to redeem Israel from Rome

and we're going to take over the world and because this guy can produce food from thin air. Right. He can raise the dead, heal the sick, all these kind of, if you put Jesus, you see all these cheesy movies. when they, you know, they give kids drugs and train them to be like a weapon for the military. They're always stupid. You know, and it's like, but we actually, if you were looking at Jesus from a battle standpoint, well, he's an ultimate warrior here.

I don't care what the movie said. This is, this guy, he can raise the dead, heal the sick, produce food out of thin air, calm storms. Well, how are you going to beat him? He's done all you can do to show you that you can't do what he does. Don't mess with him in any kind of scrap. And yet they did. Let's take our first break.

Well, they did because they viewed his compassion and these spirit-filled qualities as weakness. He named the three groups that would kill him. He began to teach them that the Son of Man, this is Mark chapter 8, first time this has been brought up on what he was there for, why he came. To teach him the son of man must suffer. He must suffer, see, not going to, must. And many things, suffer many things. And he'll be rejected by the elders, highly religious people.

Chief priests, higher religious people and teachers of the law. the epitome of goodness, love, joy, the fruit of the spirit. He must be killed. He's saying this about himself, I must be killed. And after three days rise again, he spoke planly about this. And Peter and them took him on the side and said, what in the world are he talking about? That's never going to happen. And he's saying, oh, that's going to happen.

That's what I'm here for. They just couldn't grasp the weight of the sins of the world being on his back on whether he does this or not. Yeah. Somebody needs to tell Barley to shut them dogs. If you hear some dogs barking, it's just, it's hunting season. He came. These are blues offspring, my prize lab, who now is old and gray, but his, they brought his pups with him. Burrell brought up some of his pups.

Oh, Phil, I know. Yeah. I met him this morning. Yeah. All right. They're ready, Jason. You imagine a man driving from Colorado with nine puppies and the parents in the vehicle with him. Yeah.

His wife said, get rid of those dogs or I'm going to come back. Don't come back. Yeah, I think that was the. You know, she's tired of the dogs and we're waiting on them. He said these are the offsprings of blue. Yeah, which is scary. I walked out of them. Look, oh, blue.

hadn't seen me in a year. But when I walked up, he was looking at me. I said, he knows who I am. Because he's retrieved a mini-aduct. Did he growl at you? No, he didn't growl. He growled at me. So some wounds, some wounds live on to. So when you get to Mark 12, you got the Sadducees, they come up, and I'll read this. But before you do that, I just want to make the comment that, think about this from Jesus' perspective, because they keep coming at him. And of course, he's just, he's dealing on them. He just keeps shutting them down. It's just, it's embarrassing, really. But think about it from his perspective. He created all the structures that these people are in. I mean, the priesthood. He wrote the law. He wrote it all. He was, it was his idea for the tabernacle of the temple.

So now you come here and you have these people thousands of years into it. By the way, Al, he he wrote it all and had it for the human race ready to go. And the irony is he did it before the beginning of time. Before time began. Yeah, which we talked about on the last. We asked the atheists, what was there before the time began? And they say the only answer they can come up with is there was nothing. Then nothing explodes.

But I told you, there's very few people, because we tend to, in the religious world, address people who don't believe in the afterlife or there's no God. but everybody fell out these surveys. Most people are saying there is a higher power, there's a God, or there's an afterlife of some sort. They're saying that. Because we talk a lot about atheists. But actually, there's way more agnostics, which is that. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Because I'm like, look, you may say that, but when you, you know, we talked about last podcast, when you consider your options, that's a terrible frightening, We were talking about the stories that people come up with. When there's no door to the afterlife, there's nothing but being terrified. The only door there is, they close it. So I think deep down, people, I mean, they may come across like, oh, yeah, this is just the afterlife is such a something for, you know, whether they say weak people who need some kind of crutch.

But bottom line is, most people believe. Don't you think, Jase, that the pandemic proved what you're saying? I mean, look at the fear and panic that happened to people over this virus. I mean, their fear of death. I mean, it was on sterile. That is the accusation. Some people say, you know, you guys believe you're just latching on to Christianity as a crutch, as Jason just said.

I've heard that a lot. And I'm like, well, why? Like, why do we need a crutch? Where does that come from? Where does the longing for more? What's your, you're testifying even. Even in that, you're testifying to the spiritual dynamic of who we are. And that inter-longing, you know, as I said in the last podcast, the writer of Ecclesiasity says,

God has put eternity in the hearts of men. And yeah, it's not a crutch, but we're longing for more. I mean, I don't know what you call that. Even if it was a crutch, it's a good. Even if it was a crutch, I'm like, okay. Well, I would say it's more than a crutch. We don't need a crutch. We need a resurrection.

We need to be brought back from the dead. We're not looking for help. We're looking for God to completely come in and take us and bring us into it to eternity. We're looking for a fix to it all. Don't you think, Zach, that that's why cynicism is so strong with agnostics. I mean, you look at Christianity and say, I mean, it's always a very cynical approach to it. Oh, here are these people. Well, they're Jesus and this.

To me, that's more of a difference in they want a savior and not a Lord. I mean, when you're this next paragraph, he's going to talk about the Lord is one, the Lord your God. That's where people have the problem. Because most people believe, not only do they believe in the afterlife, they believe most people's going to make it. I saw the numbers. I looked at them inaudsium, whether you're a Christian or not. Most people think that if you're a pretty good person, whatever that means, you're in. That's just what they think.

Yeah. Just be careful on defining what that means because it's. Well, I'm just going to, that's what it said. Pretty good person. I mean, I think your definition of a good person is usually a description of yourself, you know, right? But in the context here of Mark 12, you know, we're dealing with the Sadducees. And I don't know who, I heard this when I was a kid and it stuck with me. It always helped me remember the difference between the Sadducees and the Therxes that the Sadducees did not believe in a resurrection.

That's why they were sad UC. You guys ever heard that? No, I've used that before. I used that like 450 podcast ago. I think what we miss, the naysayers, I think they miss that for God, after John 316, who everyone quotes, God's the love the world, to send his own and begotten son, whoever believes in it won't perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world.

They set up this argument that, well, he's condemned. Dement us. He's saying we're all bad and none of us are good and the weight of it all is on himself. And by proxy, you're condemning us because you follow it. He didn't come to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned. But whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only son. And then there's a verdict that's given before it happens. This is the verdict.

Jesus has not died yet, but he's fixing to. Light is coming to the world, point one. But men love darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. That's exactly what it is. Their deeds are evil, but they just hate to say, all right, I'm guilty as charged. All they have to say is admit is they're guilty as charged. cars. But here's the solution. This one here will solve your problem. And they just don't lack

the hill. Well, that's why I said. It's the Lord. Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm, I've done some evil thing. When you acknowledge Jesus says, Lord, you're then relinquishing control and you're saying that I can't do it and that you're humbling yourself and people they don't want to do that. But I will, it's worthy of note that all these people who believe in the afterlife. I think the numbers were like 75 to 80% believe in a heaven of some sort. But only the hell, believing in hell was like 40 or 50%. So that's just where people are.

They're like not so much on hell, but heaven, some version of it, even if you have to make it up yourself. Yeah, it's out there. So I want to read this. Let's take a break. So but here we have one of a crew. people who say there's no resurrection. Which made them sad, you see.

We also didn't believe in angels or demons, and they didn't believe in any book of the Bible past numbers. They don't believe in them now. They don't believe in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, numbers, and Deuteronomy. So past Deuteronomy. The Torah, yeah. Which is why Jesus, that's important, because he's going to give them a quote from the book of Exodus later, because he knew of the...

They read this. So here you go. That's why it seems confusing his answer, but you got to remember who he was talking to. So they came to a little question. Teacher, they said, which, look, teacher is an, they were acknowledging that he's not a Dumbo. What's your chapter and verse for that now?

12.18. 1218. Mark 1218. Teacher, they said, Moses wrote for us that if a man's brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and have children for his brother. I went and looked this up. What did they call that?

I forgot what they called it. But it was basically to deal with widows back in their day because it was a lineage law. And the idea was, again, they didn't believe in resurrection. So the only thing you have was your lineage going forward. Well, what happens if a man dies, his wife's here, she's a widow, she can't have any children. And they didn't have any children. up against a dire circumstance. She has terrible financial situation, and she has no way to produce lineage.

Then that's how she lives for. That's what the Sadducees believes. I mean, it's a little creepy to wrap your head around a law like this, but... I'm just glad that wasn't around in our generation, Jason. I mean, we're brothers, but come on. Well, yeah, the first time you hear this, you're like... I mean... I don't know about this law.

But it was a real thing. And you got to remember if you look at when you... because we're going to see this in the next argument about moral law, that the basis was functioning productive societies and love. You know, it wasn't like these laws were coming from a place of, you know, condemnation or torture. It was trying to have a functional society, and you were loving people that had, in this case, an unfortunate incident.

But make no mistake about it. and you don't have to interpret this. These sadducees are trying to make the idea of the resurrection absurd. They don't believe in the resurrection. They came up with an argument that's going to seem absurd. That's right. So you can't get mixed up in these people spending all this time talking about, well, why in the world did they do this?

They're taking a law and they're trying to show the absurdity of believing that the resurrection is possible. Right. So here's what they come up. And hoping he'll come up with something crazy. Well, right. You know, to be against him. Because they're like, they felt like it was a pretty good argument. That's why they call him teacher, you know.

Flattery, give him some flattery and then give him some absurd. Second one in a row like that. Yeah. Now, there were seven brothers. The first one married and died without leaving any children. The second one married, the widow, but also died leaving no child. It was the same with the third. In fact, none of the seven left any children.

Last of all, the woman died too. Because, I mean, it's like, it's possible. That could happen. And how likely, right? At the resurrection, or someone's manuscript say resurrection when men rise from the dead, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be since the seven were married to her? Now, Jesus gets really blunt here. And when you read the other versions in Matthew 22,

and I think it's Luke 20. Don't quote me on that, but I think it's Luke 20. He says, are you not in error? One of them, he just says you're wrong. Basically the equivalent. You're just dead wrong. You're in error because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God. So those two things are always going to be

what we need to realize, we have questions about the afterlife, in my opinion. We don't underestimate the power of God or don't underestimate the scriptures. Now, the scriptures he chose was in Exodus 3-6, and it says, we'll get there right after he says this. When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage. They will be like the angels in heaven.

Now, about the dead rising, have you not read in the book of Moses? Now, this is real interesting what he did, and I think it's very powerful. In the account of the bush, how God said to him, I am the God, I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken in the strongest form of that phrase that you can make it out.

Because I'm looking at the Greek, I mean, he was beg to say, you're wrong. You cannot be any more wrong. So that's it. There's a lot to discuss here. Because some of you say, well, wait a minute. Because what do we do? What is usually the first response as Christians when they read this?

There's no marriage in heaven. Well, wait a minute. There's no, I'm not going to know my wife. I mean, I love my wife. I don't think I want to go to heaven if I can't go with my spouse. I can't believe you said that. That's what's the first response is. is. And that's mainly what you always hear about this. And he didn't exactly say that. He just said,

look, you're not going to be, there's not going to be any more weddings and nobody's going to be given in marriage. And, you know, when you think about a lot of people who I think, I don't have a problem with this, because I think it's true. You know, we're all ultimately married to Jesus when you read the Ephesians 5. So we're the bride of Christ. He says male or female, you know, because it's, Whatever this power of God is, don't you think it's going to be better than anything you could imagine here? Wouldn't you agree? If there's no pain or sadness. So it's just not a physical where we're producing kids anymore and the roles.

But look, it was still Abraham and it was still Isaac. When they had the transfiguration, it was them. So it's not like you're going to change into some floating tissue. of so you don't recognize, and even Jesus himself, remember he said this same Jesus, who you see being taken into heaven will come back. So it's not that. And so I'll probably be, let's take another break.

And I'm not making light of sex. God created it. Yeah, it's a big part of. But you don't think that he's got the power to whatever we're going to be doing in a physical, expressive way in a spiritual world because we are going to have bodies. It's like me.

It's going to be way, Better is what I'm saying. I'm back trouble when I pull the muscle in my back and you say, well, boy, that's a bad thing to do. I said, not because it's not a bad thing. Immortality's mine with the hurt back or not. There'll come a point when there is no hurt back. No more torn muscle. This would be the same kind of argument as saying, okay, let's say since Jesus ate the fish post-resurrection,

which means there could be fishing in the afterlife because. he ate it, he did. Well, there also could be duck hunting. What's the difference in a duck, duck meat and a fish meat? Nothing. That's right. But this would be the equivalent to say, you know, I really want to go,

but I'm afraid that I'm going to be in the blind with a bunch of people that I don't like. That's right. And that fourth wife I had, I remember all the arguments I had with her. That's right. But you're honing in. You're honing in,

You're honing in, or they were honing in on something that was insignificant in the grand scheme of the big picture as they're approaching Jesus. So they're thinking about, they're asking a question about these brothers who died. So they're talking about dead people and who, in their resurrection, who are you going to be married to you? So when he answers the question by giving the quote from Exodus, is a, you're talking about he's not the God of dead people. He's a god of who's living. He's just expanding the picture out. I think that's the point because it's like, I love this verse because it's not, he doesn't just answer it where it can be like summed up and tidied up real neat.

And the reason why is because they're asking a question in a framework that's very small and very limited. And then Jesus's answer is to essentially obliterate that entire spectrum. and he's answering the question in a completely different paradigm. And that's why he gives that quote out of Exodus when he says here, I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. And he follows up with, he's not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are greatly mistaken.

Otherwise, you do not understand even what you're talking about. You're in a whole other realm. Well, we're just trying to apply earthly sense to the heavenly and the eternal. And you're just not, it reminds me of that quote that when they interviewed Barbara Bush before she died, they said, do you want to know what your eulogy says? So they asked her before she died. And she said, no, I don't, but I'll be watching. And they were like, what?

Because she was, in her minds, whatever they come up with, I'm not dying. But you know, the reporter had a problem with that. I was like, you'll be watching. You know what? You know what it's like, though? It's like when you're, when your kid, and I've, you know, being in college ministry, I heard this a lot, a lot of times. And even my own kids just said it.

And I've thought it. I thought, man, I want Jesus to come back. But I'd like to do a. B, C, and D first. I want to get married first, right? I want to have kids. Whatever your thing is that you think, man, man, I just want to do that first.

And then, but that's a misunderstanding. Like, you, like, once you get older, and I hate to say this like this, but it's true. Like, you get older, I'm 40, 44 years old now and I'm married. I've got five kids, you know, I've done, I've built a business and all the things, and I love those things, but none of those things, none of them, of themselves has fulfilled me. I can't be like the girl from Jerry McGuire and say, you could you, uh, what does you say?

You complete me or Jerry McGuire said that. That's just not true. And as you get older, if you're walking in the spirit, I think you learn to appreciate the things that God's given us as as pointers to him. And you're like, man, like the older I get, the more I'm like, man, Jesus come now. But when you're younger, a lot of times you think these other things are going to fulfill you, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they think that they're going to be the end of the fulfillment for you.

And it's just not the case. There's way more. And I think that's kind of what they're getting at here, too, is that there's more. There's just more. And I also think that he's speaking directly to his audience, which was the Sadducees, when he said, when he has that comment at the end, he is not the God of the dead. Well, these men believe you just die. Yeah. And that's it.

But of the living for him all our lives. So then he's also saying, you boys better wise up. You have a chance here. He's for you, but you're going to have to open your mind. I mean, he's indirectly telling them there's a way to have access. There's a way to open the door. You know, we told that morbid story last podcast about just waiting your whole life for the door to open. And then at the last second, have it shut in your face.

But that's what he came here to do is to share that the eternal. God has given you access through him, the man who you're now questioning and are trying to accuse and ultimately kill. But don't you think that these guys, they probably had been practicing this argument on the Pharisees that they're putting on Jesus now. And I'm sure they didn't really have an answer. They've been debating. And the Pharisees, oh, man, that's a good one.

You know, they're trying to, remember they got the huddles. They're huddling up trying to argue with each other. So they think they've got a pretty good thing here. with this description. But everybody has said it. But Jesus basically says, look, so you're going to question me about the resurrection, which you don't believe in. You don't understand the scripture because it's there,

but you also don't understand the power of God. Because what he's saying is, I came from heaven, by the way. So you're going to question me on what happens there? I've been there. So again, it's like the whole thing is ridiculous at its face. but it shows you human arrogance at its ultimate. Because if you can come up with an argument, and don't you see this in current politics and everything?

Somebody comes up with a clever exception and they think, oh, we got this. The powers that be are in a constant state of sneering at people who talk about life from the dead, God, the dead, the living. They sneer at that. You expect me to believe that I said, what else do you have? what else can you do to trump that?

Right. I mean, it's eternity. And I get it that it's one you have to, if you look to believe, no, you don't see it. We see people go in the ground, they don't come back. So I get it that it's, you really got to have faith to believe it's possible. I mean, this isn't 101. This is 401. If you believe that God will raise people up.

But is that ultimately that not what it's all about? I mean, at the heart of our faith and who we are is that that's what God's going to do. And then we can guess about the heaven stuff, and we mentioned this earlier, about what it's going to be like. But I can promise you this, as eternal beings, it's going to be fantastic. This is an option you can get in on and it's being offered free of charge. If you would just listen to him, he said, I will raise you from the dead. I promise. I can't lie, and I promise you, this is going to be an anchor for your soul.

But you got to remember these satircees when they heard this, it probably scared them because the reason they didn't believe in the resurrection is they didn't believe in justice or judgment. And they were just a group of people who were like, look, just love everybody. And it's going to be okay. And he basically backed him into a corner and said, oh, it's coming. and there is a God and he's permanent and he values the people he's with. I mean, which I think indirectly addressed him. What the irony is is the next paragraph, the teachers of the law come back because they heard this answer.

And then the very thing the Sadducees were known for because they asked which is the commandment, which is the most important. And he's like, love the Lord of God with all your soul, love your neighbor. So it's like, no matter who the enemy is, he's more extreme than either group, what he's representing. He's not saying this is not about love because the Sagittesies are like, oh, it's all about love, but they had a misunderstanding what true love is. It wasn't deep enough. I mean, because God's love is the deepest love there is, which is what produced Jesus for us. So you're right.

And there's a good tease for the next podcast we'll do because it'll be a number. Another, now we've got a fourth group coming in. We already have the Pharisees, the Herodians, the Sagittes now. Teachers of the law are going to come in and take their little bite at the apple. So we're going to preview that a little bit in our overtime, and then we'll flash that out deeper on the next podcast. If you want to follow us over, it's blazedtv.com slash unashamed. They have a little promo going on. You get $10 off if you use the promo code, Phil.

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