Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 602 | Jase Couldn't Believe What a Computer Glitch Did & What Dollar General Says About America
Episode Date: December 21, 2022Jase recalls the unlikely computer glitch that mistakenly ordered a boatload of duck calls and who they were for. Al kicks off the Bible study on Mark 14, discussing the plot to kill Jesus. Jase talks... about the difference between Jesus and Lifetime movies and what they keep in their closets. And Jase describes the hilarious way a Dollar General store summed up America in a single glance. -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed.
What about you?
I don't shop.
And look, I don't have any, you know, any stake in Dollar General, but I love Dollar General.
They're everywhere.
They got everything you need.
Right now, in my truck, I'm headed to South Louisiana.
I'm fixing to go film our show.
Well, when you go to rural-type areas, you're the, because you know what you do when you first.
go to any out-of-town destination.
What's the first thing you got to do?
Y'all don't know.
You determine.
I thought y'all would know this.
The first, so we said, we're going on a trip.
I'm going to stay there four days.
We're going to film.
What is the first bit of information you have to figure out?
What am I going to wear?
No.
I mean, I wear the same clothes all the time.
I know.
What are we going to do about the coffee?
That is true.
You're right.
What is the coffee situation?
Well, where I'm headed, there's no, what's the Statue of Liberty?
Starbucks.
No.
So I said, well, I've got to have a coffee maker.
Statue Liberty.
Isn't that a picture of the Statue of Liberty?
I think it's like some kind of goddess of something else.
Yeah.
So I said, you know what?
I asked Missy Lus, and I was like,
does Dollar General sell coffee makers?
She's like, I do not know, Jase.
I was like, I bet Missy doesn't go to Dollar General.
She likes Dollar General.
Oh, does she?
She does.
She likes it.
I thought it might be a little bit.
No, she is a fan.
So I said, you know what?
I'm going to have faith.
And it's only two minutes away.
I went up there, $18.
They had one.
It's in my truck.
Yeah.
I mean, you just can't beat them.
So anyway, about two weeks ago, I go up there and there's a couple, like,
And I'd say in their 60s.
It's like a Friday night.
The parking lot was almost empty, which is why I like it.
Because it's like a shrunken Walmart into a little bit bigger than a convenience store size.
And it's easy to get in.
It's a lot smaller Walmart.
I mean, they're really shrunken.
But look, here's what I love about them is they only have like one or two employees there at any time.
but they've got more stuff slammed together.
Which when you walk through there, it's only about three foot wide in between all the aisle.
Yeah, it just looks like, it's like the messy kids room, but it's a good kid.
But they have to have two people, Jay's working there because one's always smoking out front.
That's right.
So the other one's covered inside.
So anyway, I have a smoking back and forth.
Yeah, so I see a couple.
So like they met there.
So there's a woman, because there's very few people, so I noticed this.
And there's a guy in there.
He part right in the front of the store, and she part, like, out toward the main road.
And they're like going to each other to greet.
So I'm like, all I thought was, hey, let's meet at Dollar General.
Yeah.
You know, that's a good place to meet and go do whatever.
So I go in there and buy my stuff.
When I come out, well, now they got a blanket on the tailgate.
and they're all hugged up.
It's clear, yeah.
Clear night.
So they met, I'm going to admit, I made it awkward because I thought, I can't unsee this.
Because then I thought, okay, I'll meet you at Dollar General.
Let's look at the stars in the bargain lot.
Who's bringing the blanket?
And so I looked at them.
They looked at me because I stopped walking.
And I said, America.
And they nodded and just, I went and got in the truck.
I thought, this is awesome.
Jay, you run up on some strange things.
That's pretty good.
I'd never say that.
The date night at the dollar.
They had a date night at the dollar.
General,
party lot.
But when you think about it,
it makes sense.
You might not want to delve into what all that was about
is who she was blown to.
It was in public.
They weren't doing it.
I mean,
they were just hugged up on a tailgated Dollar General.
But I thought,
you know what?
It makes sense because this was a
economical date.
It's free.
And so where else better to go in case you need something for the party?
Dollar General can't get any more economic than that.
If you need a snob of spring.
brings forth from some strange areas.
I was convinced.
I told that story here, so y'all let us know if I did, but that happened.
And look, I felt good about it.
I went home.
Missy's like, why are you all?
I was like, I love this place.
And I said, two people, I just saw two people on a date at Dollar General.
Of course, then you know what she said?
Well, how do you know they were on a date?
I said because they were on a tailgate under a blanket all hugged up.
Yeah, watching the stars.
At dollar dinner.
They'd probably gone in and bought them a nice bottle of wine, about three bucks.
You can't see any wine.
They sell the wine there now.
I don't know the tailgate and the parking lot of a place like that.
I don't know whether they were.
I don't know what they were.
I didn't know what.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
No, look, Phil.
It was, it looked romantic.
Yeah.
It, I, I've, I liked it.
Right.
I mean, I gave them in America.
I didn't, I don't know why I said that.
It's better than robbing and looting and shooting.
That's what's funny, Phil.
That is true, man.
I try to tell a happy, feel good story.
And for some reason, you're, you're like, I don't believe.
They were up to no good.
Ranting and looting.
I'm like, I don't think they're cheating on their spouses, not right here.
by one of the main roads,
Dollar General for the whole world to say,
I just think they said, hey, you know,
it's been a long day.
Let's go to the Dollar General.
Hang out.
That's right.
See, Dad, this is what happens in town.
You're out here, so you wouldn't ever know about these things like this.
But you go to town, these are the kind of things you see.
Yep.
Yeah.
So just so you know.
Well, I hate to miss it, but.
Jay, you've never told that story for it.
Well, we'll see.
Not in my presence.
see because I'm
Well, you're right.
If you did,
Unashamed Nation, let us know.
I'm pretty sure I did.
And so if you,
if anybody's ever,
if you can back to say something,
you've heard this story,
let us know.
Email Zach and let them know.
So,
yeah,
we need to get Dollar General
to be a sponsor on the podcast
because I've given them love,
you know,
the last day.
You're right.
They should be.
But, you know,
they,
back in the day,
they bought a lot of
Dynasty stuff
and Duck
commander stuff, you know, back when the show was on. So it's, you know, it's definitely our kind of
store. They're more rural. You know, I've been to many, many towns to speak in all over,
you know, America. There'll be some little town. There's one convenient story, but you know what's
always there does. There's always a Dollar General. I mean, now almost every small town of America,
at least has a DG. What who owns that? I don't know. Somebody in Tennessee, they're based in
Tennessee, I think. Yeah, right now. But they have, at the time back when we were doing business,
business with them because I worked for documentary then.
This has only been five or six years ago.
At that time, they had 11,000 stores.
Oh, I was seeing how many there are right now.
Check it out because it was 11,000 a few years ago.
But think about that just a minute.
I mean, like Walmart had at the same time had 2,000.
You know how many they have now?
18,216.
Well, that was back in April.
So they may.
I mean, so you're going toward 20,000.
See how many Walmarts there are.
I guarantee there's not more than three or four thousand Walmart.
About five, I think.
No.
Well, I mean, I know how many Walmart.
There was about when we were doing business with the middle is about 2000.
So maybe five.
I remember being the one year, you know, we got the duck call by mistake in all the Walmart stores.
Which, you know, Phil, if that had to happen, probably Duck Commander would have gone bankrupt.
I mean, that one year was a catalyst for a lot of other stores.
slow years.
I have shared that story, but a computer glitch caused the all Walmart stores to order
the duck calls one year.
And so I called up there and tried to say, hey, I think we've made a mistake.
Because it was all we could be.
That car was going into areas that nobody even heard of a duck.
We're probably not going to send any duck calls.
What was amazing is the buyer, find the board of all the setup that is, he says, you know,
amazingly, we did far better enough we thought.
Yeah, they actually sold them.
So Walmart has 10,500 stores now.
So they've come a long way since we were there.
Or droopled since we did business with them back in the day.
I drove around in my pickup,
driving from Walmart to Walmart before,
and after about a year or two of that, a couple of years,
got a phone call and the buyer said,
how are you getting your products and our stores?
I said, one at a time in the back of my pickup truck.
He said, that's how you're stocking our stores?
I said, well, by the way, who are you?
He said, I'm the buyer you're supposed to be going through.
I said, oh, good to talk to you.
But Jace, that was turned over to Jace, and he dealt with him.
Jace was the buyer for a good job, Jace.
Yeah, you wouldn't have want to watch that at home.
Yeah.
But you know what's funny now.
You had to be willing to lose.
And I may be mistaken.
So you think about 10,500 stores, and then you have big box stores, outdoor industry, Academy, Cabellas, and Bass Pro, now all under one head.
Of course, a lot of those weren't even in business when we were back in the day.
But now, you know who the, I think, the last I heard, the number one seller of our duck calls is all digital, all online, Amazon.
I'm not shocked.
That's where it's going now.
It just, you know, it just, I don't know, it seems weird to us because we, for so many years you used to drive around and sell them at a store.
and now the idea is most of it's going directly
of people's homes.
I know why you wanted me to tell that story
because it was a romantic story at Dollar General.
It's kind of inspiration.
And we're in Mark 14.
Perfect segue.
And there's actually, you know,
I have some ideas about this
that may make people uncomfortable,
which is perfectly comfortable to me.
That's right.
Because I just really believe this.
This was a,
Jesus called this a beautiful story.
And we've been dealing with the last two chapters about the temple
because he's kind of centered everything there
because he is turning everything upside down, literally, in the temple.
Now we're sort of making that next shift into the events that lead up to his death.
So that's the significance as we get to chapter 14 contextually
is now he's like, okay, we're here.
It's about to happen.
So everything that happens now as we go forward,
is all leading to his death, his barrel, and his resurrection, and his ascension.
So just to set the table for you, Dave.
Yeah, you're right.
One of these versions, she has done a beautiful thing.
Yeah, that's in verse, it's in Mark, in 14.6, when he said, she has done a beautiful thing.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it's a rare phrase to see Jesus refer something, you know, as a beautiful.
It may be the only place, I didn't research it,
but there may be probably the only place where you see him say that.
Yeah.
It's quite, look, it's an intimate.
Now, I'm going to set this up because,
and I listen to a lot of sermons and read commentaries about this,
and this is one of those stories where you kind of got to get
the idea of what it was like being a woman with a checkered past.
and having this kind of public display,
this was quite a move for somebody to do today.
Yeah.
It would have been considered in this context, scandalous.
Exactly.
It would be the word I would use to describe it.
Hang on before you told it, let's take a break.
Which is why, you know, unbelievers and anti-Jesus type people try to make more out of this,
you know, in a sexual.
They actually made one of the movies about Jesus.
Oh, yeah, and they got it from here.
And I'll address that here too.
It's because, you know, God, I've said this many times, and we've all agreed.
God is the architect of male and female.
This is quoted many times.
And Jesus, you know, when they were coming to him trying to trappy him, he always goes back
to the beginning, where it's like, well, did not God.
I make them male and female.
And you remember the context of Adam and Eve.
There was no shame, you know, until sin occurred.
And even in the marriage context today,
and I was fortunate enough to be a virgin when I got married,
and my wife was too.
And, you know, I've spoken many times about that.
But it's shame-free.
So when you think about what she's fixed to do here,
that shame-free beautiful act she does has nothing to with sex but that the reason that sex is
special in that way is that it's shame-free so it's a spiritual thing you know if you want to have a
great sex life as a married couple well you work on the spiritual side of things and I guarantee
you the physical will improve I mean that that is a deep biblical truth
It is.
And not just that.
It's physical, it's spiritual, and it's emotional, all tied into one relationship.
And that's what makes it special.
And that's why to cheapen it and to just, you know, whoever, whenever, wherever,
cheapens that emotional, spiritual, and physical.
You said, well, how come you're bringing this up before?
Because, look, what's different than Jesus than any lifetime movie you see is that there is
He has no skeletons in his closet.
You know, we made that right.
He never sinned, and there's literally no skeleton in his grave because he came back from the dead.
You know what's interesting, Jay, that statement you just made, I made this in my sermon this past week.
He didn't experience sin, but that's the only thing that we experienced that he didn't in terms of,
he said he was made like us in every way to understand exactly what is it like to be us.
And the one thing he didn't do is sin because he had to save us from sin.
So in other words, all the experiences we have, the idea of relationships and loving people deeply and being hurt and, you know, all the things that happened to us, suffering, happened to him.
So he totally understands us.
And the only thing he didn't do that we do is sin.
And the reason I'm bringing this up is, you know, he got three men here discussing one of the most intimate.
just, I mean, pouring your heart out moment in a public way.
It's a beautiful thing.
And so most people, they have trouble even relating to this.
So they try to screw it up and make it something sexual.
You know, it's completely the way the world is.
You know, because they can't figure out how someone would do this without having some
kind of selfish motive and I think they missed the whole point. So with that setup, which was quite the
setup, I mean, because this is a moving story. It is something, especially when you, when you look at
what their world was like. So we'll kind of help help that as we go along here. So 14-1 of
March. Now the Passover and the feast of unleavened bread were only two days away and the chief priest
and the teacher of the law were looking for some way to arrest Jesus and kill him.
So same thing.
That's been going on since he got to Jerusalem.
But not during the feast, they said, or the people may riot.
So they, this is like turned into a godfather movie here.
These are religious people.
Yeah.
They're looking for a way to.
The moment to whack him.
Yeah, to whack him.
But they're like, oh, it's just the political structure.
Climate is not good.
We don't people write.
So while he was in Bethany, reclining that.
at the table in the home of a man known as Simon the leper.
A woman, and we know it's married from the other.
If you read all four accounts, you'll get a way more detailed version of what happened.
And I think this is the only one that said they're at, just think, they're at a house
in the home of a man who's known as Simon the leper, which again just shows you how Jesus operated.
That's right.
I mean, what did this guy look like?
This guy was a pariah.
I mean, like, the one thing you didn't hang around in those days was lepers.
You know, they usually got shipped off someplace.
So a woman, Mary, came with an alabaster jar.
And look, I looked into every detail of this.
I mean, these are, even the jar itself were usually heirlooms of Great Worth.
You know, this was there.
Because back then, you also didn't have running water.
you didn't have deodorant, you know.
And so perfume was something they used to, I mean, let's face it.
Cover up the body odor.
They stink.
They stink.
Yeah.
Your feet stunk because it's dirty.
And I would read that usually when people entered the house, they would like put a, just a dab on your head just because you're dirty.
You're, well, they're not going to go take a shower, you know, like we do.
So then it says she had the alabaster jar, very expensive perfume,
years wages, some of the others say, made a pure nard.
I looked that up.
It's basically in the honeysuckle line of, if you ever smelled that honeysuckles,
some form of that flowery type smell.
She broke the jar.
That's why I brought that up.
usually the jar itself was worth a lot of money, not discounting the, so she's just
drawn all the way with it.
She don't care what it caught, has no regard to the financial, you know, one of the
preachers I heard give a lesson on this was like, this was kind of like, you know, gold is now.
This is something you put under your bed in case there's a crisis or a famine, you know,
and she broke it the entire jar and poured the perfume on his head.
And look, and some of you have already looking ahead,
but if you think about something being broken and poured out,
well, we know what's fixed to happen to Jesus,
especially after he gave the speech about the Lord's supper,
you know, his body was broken and he poured his blood out.
I mean, you think that's a coincidence?
I do not.
So verse four, some of those present, and we get the names of them in other.
In the John account.
Yeah.
We're saying indignantly to one another.
And some of them say they rebuked her harshly.
Oh, yeah, that's coming up here in five.
But they're basically yelling at her.
Why this waste of perfume?
It could have been sold for more than a year's wages and the money given to the poor.
and they rebuked her harshly.
Now, Jesus says, leave her alone, said Jesus, why are you bothering her?
She has done a beautiful thing to me, the poor you always have with you,
and you can help them anytime you want.
So he was not saying, we don't care about the poor.
I think this actually escalates what she did,
because he's like, this is even more important of that,
and we know how important it is to help them.
the poor she did what she could she poured perfume on my body beforehand to prepare for my burial
so there was something to this breaking and pouring out i tell you the truth now listen to this
statement wherever the gospel is preached throughout the world which is fixed to happen what she has
done will also be told in memory of her and it was told by all four of the gospel writer then
Judas Ascariot, one of the 12, went to the chief priest to betray Jesus.
So you have this double story going on, this lie that he's living.
They were delighted to hear this and promised to give him money.
Now, this same one accusing her of wasting the money.
And we know from John, he was the one that brought up the idea about this money could have been sold to help.
This is a bad bunch of people here.
So in the John 12, I,
I do think that it adds.
Let's take a break.
It adds a key element that I wanted to read.
So in John 12 in verse 2, well, verse 1, let me just read it.
Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived in Bethany, where Lazarus lived.
Remember he had just raised Lazarus on his way coming to Joseph.
Remember, Bethany was his little community.
This is where he hung out during this whole week.
He would go there every night.
Right.
So here a dinner was giving it, and we know it was at Simon, the leprice house,
which is not funny, but it's just like, if you were doing a movie about this,
it's just not like the movies you see portrayed of Jesus.
He's hanging out with the biggest rag tag, a bunch of crew you've ever seen.
They all look rough and fishermen.
I know how commercial fishermen smell.
But you can't wash it.
the smell. Remember Phil? We did it for years. Oh, yeah. And even Miss Kay would be like,
they literally could smell us coming, but the kicker was, we couldn't smell each other.
No, after a while. You waller in it long enough. You don't smell it anymore. Because it's your
livelihood. That's right. You were putting your livelihood in a tub, and they tend to have a
smell to them, all of you. It's sweat mixed with fish slime. That's right. To us, it was
It was our only way to survive.
It's like if you walk out behind a seafood restaurant and you smell anything, man, but that's what it takes to get seafood on the table.
Jace, from time to time, I look back at the way we survived being fishermen.
And it's amazing, Jace, that it ended up like it has.
Exactly.
So, but, you know, it's strong evidence that there is a God.
Yeah.
So look, here at dinner, verse 2 was given in.
Jesus's honor, you know, because he was raised from the dead. I mean, he, I mean, he raised
Lazarus from the dead. So, and they're just acknowledging, just, just think about, you think, well,
why were they doing this to Jesus's honor? I mean, he hadn't died, been buried and raised yet.
We raised Lazar, but think of the health care that he had taken care of in these three years.
Think about how many people. I mean, he is, you're talking about people even now.
Forget about Obamacare. Jesus care.
And wearing a mask and all this and, you know, vaccines and all this.
Jesus is literally curing epidemics of ailments all over their world.
And now he's raised a guy from the dead.
Now, you want a health care plan?
Not only will I cure you, even if you die, I'll bring you back from the dead.
I mean, it's incredible.
So they had an honor.
So, and you remember Martha's role.
and she's in here several times.
You know, she's served.
She's taken care of all what needs to be.
And look, we need that, and we all have different personalities.
So while Lazarus was among those reclined at the table with him,
Mary took a pint of pure and art and expensive perfume,
so we know the same story.
She poured it on Jesus' feet.
Now bring in that element.
Now here's where the intimacy comes in.
in this and wiped his feet with her hair.
So back in the day, you do the study.
So she had to take her hair down.
Well, when you take your hair down, you don't do that in public.
They didn't do that back.
You do that at home in your bedroom.
And that's where all this kind of like uncomfortable thing happened.
Because she's doing this in public.
There's nothing sinister.
There's nothing sexual about it.
She's doing it in public in front of people because she's doing it.
she realizes, and I think she realizes it, I'll give you my theory.
If you turn back to John 11, well, Jesus, she, Jesus is going to raise Lazarus.
Now, I just wanted to point out one verse in 1132.
When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, this is before Jesus raised,
She fell, look at here, at his feet again.
You know, I got to looking, and then Luke 10,
she also did the same thing.
Luke 1039, you'll remember that story.
And I was like, boy, she spent a lot of time at Jesus' feet.
And even from learning and teaching.
So Luke 10, 39, let's see, I'll read 38.
as Jesus and his disciples were on their way,
he came to a village where a woman named Martha
opened her home to him.
She had a sister called Mary
who sat at the Lord's feet,
listening to what he said.
So you're seeing, that's why she got it.
You just think about it.
And so at the end of chapter 11 in John,
well, what was the result of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead?
well they wanted to kill Jesus so you got to remember she was fully aware of this and I think she
she figured it out somewhere in here they're going to kill him and and and it's his plan
to do to boast to your point you didn't got to remember by the time you get to this event
the what he said he was going to do made it plan
and the disciple.
But I'm saying nobody else is getting it.
But go ahead.
Let me read this, John 11, 32, right before he raised him.
When Mary reached the place where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet and said,
Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.
So to boast of your point, there was another example where she was at the feet of Jesus.
She was strong in the faith.
Yeah.
So I kind of went, I wanted to read all that in detail because I wrote down three points.
I don't know if you're going to preach this,
are you all going through Mark?
Eventually.
This was pretty good.
Yeah.
So.
I'm always up for a three point.
This is from John 12.
So the first thing she showed was unconditional love.
Because just think about this.
Here's a woman who women were not esteemed back then.
And she did something in public that you just shouldn't be doing.
But she didn't care.
You know what I mean?
She was, and I mean, didn't care in a good way.
Right.
She didn't care what others thought about her.
She did not care what others thought.
They're yelling at her.
Jesus, some from his own group, I mean, his own apostles.
She's doing something that you, in an intimate way, that you would only do to someone,
and they all know that Jesus is not interested in anything sexual or anything,
but she knew that too.
Yep.
But she was preparing him for his burial because she knew he was going to die.
And she's wiping and she's crying and she's wiping his feet, which is another thing,
which is back then their feet were deemed, you know, the worst thing on you.
Well, they were walking for miles in sandals in the dust.
And you've been there, Jay's.
I mean, it's a...
I ran two years one time without any shoes.
shoes.
Shoeless.
What were the state of your feet during that period of time?
You would not have believed it.
Ms. Kay, your mother, I would prop my feet up.
Oh, no.
I said, got some thorns.
Oh, I thought you were going to say she would like wash your feet and with her.
She had needles.
We had a stash of needles and she would take the thorns out of my feet.
Thick, thick calluses.
Like most people don't realize how tough.
Humans' feet, if they go barefooted a couple of years, as in my 20s, I was a heathen,
but the tread was thick.
I could walk on hot pavement.
It wouldn't bother me because it was callous.
So this was like an ant-thamination.
And Jason's point is all their feet, they look rough.
I mean, because their feet were real, really rough.
So in your rebeying, you also rebelled against shoes.
I did.
I did.
I did.
Under the auspices of who is a man.
man who's a man i got you i guess i guess let's let's take another play so it's uncomfortable it's uh
it's uh what'd you say it's scandalous but now it's like borderline getting weird awkward
because she's actually in any age jays her hair dirty it's like your your hair's getting dirty
from from his feet the evil mind can't see the goodness in this that's it that's it
A woman's on her knees and from a man says, yeah, they have to something.
It's like every movie that you watch when all of a sudden the husband is away and then the woman comes.
It always ends in sinfully.
That's right.
But in this case, no.
And that's why Jesus called it beautiful because it was a completely spiritual thing.
You have a person who has no shame in this moment because she realizes the bigger picture.
There was no lust there.
No.
None.
None.
And so.
Would you be a good thing?
for America to realize.
So in this unconditional love moment,
the old Keller,
that this was his,
he had three points to this,
just this act right here.
He had,
she wasn't worried about the cost.
You know,
she would give anything.
Yeah.
That's obvious because that's why the argument ensued.
By the,
that was,
that was with the breaking of the jar.
So by breaking of the jar and pouring it out,
she wasn't worried about cause.
She would give anything she had.
Nor reputation or anything.
Well, so when she gets to the feet, she's given up her control.
So I think that's where you get the reputation.
And that's why I said it was, she had no shame.
So she was giving everything she had.
So, and by letting her hair down, she gave up everything.
she was basically declaring I give up everything I am.
So just think about it.
She would give anything.
She gave up everything she has.
And then she's giving up everything I am because she's actually enjoying this.
She doesn't care what anybody thinks, including the religious people.
She only cares about what Jesus thinks in this moment.
And what did he think?
He thought it was awesome because she got it.
But really, you know, when you think about that,
and who God is and him calling us to be holy because he's holy.
This is something we all go through,
but it usually takes us a while to mature and get there.
Because most people wouldn't want to do this in public.
Why?
For fear of persecution or embarrassment.
And he actually, he's close to death,
but what she was doing solidifies the fact that he's,
going to save us forever exactly well and a good question to be asking is if you said this is a great
act of unconditional love well when you think about the opposite what is conditional love or conditional
faith well you do something so you can get something now look try that in marriage it's tried
every day this is why we struggle this is why we are
So I wrote this down.
Am I using God to achieve my goals or am I letting God use me to reach his goals?
Yeah.
Really, that's what this is about.
That's it.
I mean, and you're seeing that.
That's why God, through Jesus, called this a beautiful thing.
Which is exactly.
I think you're right on it there because I think what makes this so unique and distinct is that of every interaction we've been seeing,
it's always someone approaching Jesus with some kind of thing in mind they want to get done.
We want to trip him up.
We want to do this.
We want to do that.
We want to see.
We want to get healed.
We want to get something for ourselves.
This is the first thing we've seen here in a long time in the story where someone comes and it's all about Jesus.
I mean, it is totally about him.
This woman has made herself, whether she cares whether people think about or not, she has totally emptied herself.
and everything she has.
It seems like this was probably her best possession she owned.
Well, yeah, and that's why you get the idea.
She would give up everything.
So this is the opposite of the rich young ruler.
Oh, sell everything you have.
Oh, she's actually doing it without being told.
That's right.
And I think this is the key and enjoying it and liking it.
She's not doing this.
Oh, you know, I've got to obey you.
You know, it's because I, and I'm making, you know, that sort of a joke because of how people are now.
It's like begrudgingly obedience to God is, you know, it's not really being obedient because God wants your heart.
And I think that's what you're seeing here.
And isn't she a preview of post, you know, resurrected Jesus?
She's a preview of what we do.
Exactly.
But the fact that she figured this out beforehand, which is why I brought up the point,
but she was sitting at Jesus's feet listening.
Well, you know, after a while, she got it.
She got it.
And it wasn't, you know, Martha gets kind of thrown under the bus here doing other things.
But we all tend to do that.
We get so busy doing the little things there, you can't underestimate the power of listening to Jesus.
And you remember Jesus told Martha that because she was kind of complaining about Mary.
She says, you know, she won't help me.
She just keeps listening to you.
And he's like, he didn't rebuke her harshly.
He just said, just leave her alone.
She's doing what she needs to do.
You keep doing what you can do and let her do what she does.
I mean, I hope that's a theme that you picked up on of this podcast.
Because wherever you're doing, whatever ministry you're involved in,
or wherever you're at on your journey here, even if you don't believe,
and you're trying to figure this out.
You have to ask that question, where is Jesus in all this?
God chose to reveal himself through Jesus.
So whatever you do, there has to be a constant, steady influx of the red letters of this Bible in your mind.
Correct.
That is called listening to Jesus.
Somebody put them in red, and that's why.
And this is where you eventually hope to get to, which is this, because then you're ready to be used by God because you're not worried about being persecuted.
You don't care what other people think.
You're not worried about reputation.
Yeah.
That's what I love about the story.
Because look, in our world today, especially in the social media world,
I mean, the number one thing in a teenager's mind,
because I'm dealing with a lot of teenagers these days,
is what do people think about me?
That is the whole drive of social media.
So here you see a story like this,
which is the first quality you saw.
The only like she got here was Jesus.
That's it.
One thumbs up.
One?
One like.
That's that written down, which is amazing.
Let's take our last break.
But you know that one like was a big one?
Because then everybody's like, whoa, he likes this.
Why does he?
And it makes them realize what this really is all about.
But this is confident.
So it was unconditional love.
And then confidence was number two, which we talked about.
because she didn't care.
She was confident.
Because for a woman to do this in this culture and the intimate thing of letting the hair down
and the wiping the dirty feet with her hair.
I mean, she was confident in the Lord, period, you know, one like.
And the third thing, which is what we've already talked about, is she understood the plan.
And that's why we had all those references.
She got it.
She got the scheme of redemption before.
the scheme of redemption was revealed.
Now, she did have Lazarus raised, and she was an eyewitness to that.
And Lazarus was at the dinner.
And he's at the dinner.
I'm sure that got the wheels turning.
And all these plots to kill Jesus.
And she's like, why is he here?
And she's listening to all this, you know, I'm leaving.
I'm not going to leave you as orphan.
You know, he just had that.
She was saying, I matter.
And he knows it.
He knows.
That's a good point, Dad.
Because you're exactly right.
Her confidence.
I matter.
Her confidence came from Jesus.
That's right.
And how he felt about her.
And really shouldn't all of us view it that way?
Oh.
I mean, Jason, you talked about it.
Man, could we not solve the world's ills, including social justice and all this?
And this look at ourselves if we only were concerned about how Jesus saw.
It's a gigantic wave of sin and misery.
It is.
And we're not perfect.
I mean, we're sinners like everybody else.
but the difference is we gain our confidence, just like Mary did, because we know Jesus knows us.
We know he looks at us.
He says, oh, leave Jason alone.
He's my son.
You know, he loves me.
He's willing to give everything for me.
And when you know he's sticking up for you, I mean, what else do you could you possibly need?
I mean, I think I've just kind of avoided this passage before because it's kind of, I felt like a chick flick moment.
But, you know, but boy, when you really look into it, I mean, man, there's something beautiful,
but there's something powerful about this, because at the end of the day, we're all flawed
and we got problems.
And we like to keep everything to ourselves, you know, and here's, you just see somebody
with this kind of faith and that kind of courage.
Because look, I mean, I'm going to say this to me as a man who is, you know,
If I saw something going down, I would hope I would immediately run to the front of the line and display courage.
But you try to get me to share my inner moat feeling.
Boy, I'm a coward then.
And so I realize how hard and difficult this must have been for.
And I'm listening to Jesus on this.
I mean, man, he scolded them for making fun of her and rebuking her.
And he did have that famous statement.
He's like, man, this is a beautiful thing right here.
I just think it's a really powerful moving moment,
and he attached it to the gospel being preached.
He's like, wherever the gospel is going to go out.
Just think where the gospel is gone out from this moment
throughout the history of the world.
He's like, we're going to tell this story.
Reached billions.
Billions have been reached.
I mean, now he elevated that up to you.
You want to change your life in a world.
powerful way, you have this kind of faith.
You just play this faith after listening to who Jesus is.
Yep.
But you know, it's like everything else in the story.
You also see the specter that evil's always there.
Because in this moment of beauty, in this moment of beauty that people should have been
marveling at.
This group is we're going to kill him.
You got Judas over here.
His poor woman is on her knees.
Rebuking her for the deal.
And the wasting the money.
Yeah.
Can you believe what?
She knew they broke on her and say, yeah, look at her.
Look, but Judas goes straight from this beautiful setting in the Mark account gives us to us.
He goes straight to that, to who, the chief priest and says, okay, I'm ready to betray him.
I'm ready to help you complete your plan.
But out of the other.
He left this beautiful setting of submission and surrender to go and say, you need to kill him.
I mean, that's how upset he was in the moment.
Because it was almost like a rage moment when he went, because he goes straight there.
He did.
But what I found fascinating is the other disciples were rebuking her, too.
There were others.
He carries it further.
But to me, it would be just like us.
We do the same thing.
If we saw somebody with a past do something like this, look, we would have two things.
You're wasting your money.
We would immediately jump to conclusions because that's what we do.
Because I think the other disciples, they were just kind of looking at it from the outside.
They weren't getting to the heart of the matter.
And they'd say, look, this is inappropriate for you to be letting your hair down.
I mean, this is Jesus.
Don't be throwing yourself.
You know, what are you, a prostitute?
Right.
We would address these issues.
It's kind of amazing that most people still admit immorality, you know, let your hair down.
You know what I'm saying?
It's actually a positive thing on this.
It's because really when you think about it, I'm glad you said that,
because in the practical sense, religious people are fine, going to church,
putting on their Sunday baths, acting like everything is great.
But really what God is after is he wants to see when you let your hair down
and what's really going on.
Now, if you're ready to do that, he can use you.
But if you're going to try to give a,
a portrayal of, oh, I got it all figured out. And when you see, you know, I love that about,
you know, the church that brought you to the Lord, Phil, and where we meet, there is an element.
You'll see, you know, let's face it, life's a lot of people who would be considered.
The downtribing phrase. Yeah, the down, the people, you just had a rough, rough go of it.
And you do see some of these type of moments here.
You do.
where there's they've lost all shame, all reputants, they don't care.
I mean, their life has been just so horrible that it is a, it is an expression of like,
in this kind of moment.
Well, we had.
You never want to be coy and say, oh, roll your eyes and say, oh, boy.
We had one on the podcast, you know, Rucker, Rucker leads our CR, but he told his story on this podcast of a guy who's sitting in prison thinking he's either going to die or spend the rest of his life behind bars.
and he finally surrendered, you know, when he got over here and he saw Jesus.
And now he's helping other people do it.
I mean, it's, you're right, Jason.
I mean, the thing is, this story lives on and it goes on.
And, you know, I thought about it that Jesus obviously is so invested in Mary's heart
because you remember back when he comes upon the situation with Lazarus, first, Martha's like,
if you had been here, he wouldn't have died, you know, and they have a conversation.
And then Mary comes and falls at his feet.
And she says the same thing Martha says.
If you'd been here, he wouldn't have died.
And he's like, well, where is he?
And then it said he became emotional.
And then he weeps.
But Mary is the one that got him to that place.
He saw everybody crying.
And look, Jesus was weeping and had this emotional moment.
And he knew he was about to raise it.
So that shows you what an investment into this, especially this woman, her life was for Jesus, too.
He saw the purity in her.
And it just shows you that when we heard.
he hurts for us.
Even though we know everything is going to be,
he knows everything's going to be,
and hopefully we do,
that everything's going to be okay.
I mean, to me, that is the Christian life.
He never said,
I'm going to take away all your problems
and all the pain.
No.
In fact, he says the exact opposite.
All these guys were going to be sheep to be slaughtered,
go through miserable deaths and torture,
and, I mean, he gets into that in graphic detail.
But we know when we hurt, he hurts, even though we do win in the end and everything's going to be okay.
That's the guy we served.
Yeah, I said that.
I did a funeral for a little baby that passed, and those are always hard and sad.
And I mentioned that, Jay.
I said, you know, I think there's weeping today in more places than just here.
How many funerals have you done where there was a little box?
You know, I've done five where it was the little.
two-foot casket was an infant inside. And I remember every one of them distinctly. Two of the five
were twins as well. And these were babies that were born just and didn't make it but a few weeks.
And everyone has an indelible impact on me, just being the person trying to offer some encouragement
to family because you look at that and you're looking for a lifetime of all these great things
and you're praying for that miracle. You know, God, please save my child. And it's in those moments
when you realize how powerful Jesus's connection is to us because then you've got to move,
you know, beyond.
So it was moving to me to think about this context that Jesus has that compassion for us,
that when we're weeping, he's weeping.
He's weeping.
And there will be a day where there'll be no more tears unless they're of joy.
That's exactly right.
All right.
All right, we're out of time.
I do have a comparison I want to make to this story in another place that we didn't get to.
We'll do that in the overtime.
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