Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 608 | Phil & Jase NEVER Trust Weather Forecasts

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

*This episode was recorded December 21, 2022 The guys are waiting to see if an extraordinary weather forecast and plummeting temperatures will occur — and if it happens as predicted, the duck huntin...g will be excellent, but the hunters will be chilly! Phil weaves in some verses about the weather, but reminds us that although no one can combat the elements by themselves, nothing is impossible with God! Plus, the guys dive into Judas' ultimate betrayal of Jesus, Peter's reaction, and Jesus' response. "The Blind" hits theaters this fall. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? All right, welcome back to Unashamed. We still are going during duck season, which explains why Dad is still got his face pain on. Oh, yeah. I watched mine on. Commando.
Starting point is 00:00:21 It was kind of frustrating. Commander goes commandos. It was a bit. Well, it's never frustrating when you're duck hunting. But when we got there, all the ducks were there, but they were on the other end of the hole that we have. It's an area. So what we determine today,
Starting point is 00:00:39 that really this has become a rule. Used to, we used to go where the ducks are. That's the number one rolling duck hunting. Yeah. But at this age and stage of the career of all the duck hunters, you go to where the most comfortable blind is where there is a heater, a seat,
Starting point is 00:01:04 a nice, comfy seat. Proximity to get out to do the podcast. There's a lot of issues. Yeah, it's caused some interesting discussions because you're looking and everybody's thinking,
Starting point is 00:01:18 we need to be down there. But it's 32 degrees, and there's no comfy. blind down there. So instead of killing 20, we shot about eight. Which is not bad. It wasn't bad. No.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I mean, you kill something. But that's where we're at. And I think everybody was kind of, they were like. Is everybody okay with that? Everybody was fine with it. I mean. Are you mad at them anymore, Dad? Oh, not near as matters.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I used to be at them. So now they're coming up with a plan to build more comfy blinds. in between the seasons because no matter what happens i mean look we have the front of the year fixed to come here which is unusual for louisiana they say now we'll see because weathermen are notoriously wrong well you should trust them the least of any person on the planet it doesn't say anything about their character and then maybe they're trying warm loving people but when they say something, they're not looking outside. They're inside making calls about weather.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's all the computer now. You'll hear them say that, and they're talking about hurricanes, which they're pretty accurate on, but they'll say the computer model. That's the word I hear all the time. The computer model says this. So you're right. They're calling the weather from some deep cave somewhere in front of a computer screen. We set in the elm hole, one of our famous holes, and we only go there when it's clear.
Starting point is 00:02:50 and they said it was going to clear off at 8 o'clock in the morning. And I said, well, it's worth it. So let's go there. So we went there. So you believed. We saw the line, the clear line. We could see it off in the distance. But 8 o'clock came and went.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Still out there. And then 9 o'clock came and went. And then 10 o'clock came and went. So I looked it up and it said it was clear. But you were outside. I'm looking. I said, it's not clear. This is not a mistake.
Starting point is 00:03:23 This is just an outright lie. It's clear. No, I'm looking. It is not clear. And then they said it'd be clear the next hour. Guess what? The next hour. Nope.
Starting point is 00:03:34 So they were close, but just close. Well, maybe where they were, it was clear. Maybe they were just not where you were. No, I'm telling you, everybody's inside. They're not looking. They thought it was going to come through, but it didn't. It stall. So today, they said it was going to be cloudy.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Well, we got there and guess what? Clear. It was clear. And now it got cloudy at about nine, but it was clear. But it was cloudy 100%. The sun was not in the equation. And actually when we first started hunting today, there was not one cloud in the sky. I mean, how could you be that far off?
Starting point is 00:04:14 So I don't know. They need to do something about that, but I'm not even sure what my point was. I got off of the weather, weather people. Well, that's why they had during the hurricanes, they send them out, which is the right way to do it. You see them guys, they're out in it. Well, I have respect for them. Oh, me too. Because they're like, when they're telling you the wind's blowing 100 miles and higher, they're holding on to something.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I'm at my point. So the weather men are saying that Thursday, which is tomorrow, look, the high is going to be 60. And they say, now this is what they're saying. This is quite the prediction. They say at 9 o'clock at night, well, let me just start over. At 5 o'clock in the afternoon, it's going to be 60. At 9 o'clock at night, it's going to be 32.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And right at midnight, it's going to be 12. Now, I'm just going to have to. A 50 degree drop in about less than 8 hours. I'm going to have to stay up to midnight. I probably won't make it. You'll never make it. So they say in one day it's going to go from 60, 60 to 12.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But you know what that means? You say, why are you bringing this up? When you see something like that, if it gets anywhere close to that, the ducks are headed south. You're moving. So we want to update, even our non-duck hunting people, that the migration is fixing to occur. Yeah. Because if we're getting that here, you follow the duck back up the country, and it's going to be ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 This is good times have come our way. the stars are aligning. The next time we're together, I will give you a report. We should have a whackin story. But you could go with, you could believe Hebrew chapter one and you live that way.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Or you could say whatever the weather channel says. They're right. In the beginning, oh Lord. Is this a weather verse, Phil? This is weather. You laid the foundation of the, foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain.
Starting point is 00:06:28 They will all wear out like a garment. You, God, will roll them up like a robe, like a garment. They will be changed, but you remain the same and your years will never end. The cosmos is predicted to fall apart, disappear, wear out, whatever you want to call it. So there's two schools of thought. I'll bring the Weather Channel people in, and they'll have guest on to show you how to save the planet. Hebrew writer said, yeah. Hebrew writer says, you're not going to save it. So if it was giving you a weather forecast that at some point, it's going to get really hot and a lot of changes are going to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:16 That is correct. It is going to be an impossible venture to combat the elements. But if you're with God, you will be saved from the destruction of the elements. So I would just say, I love them, you know. Yeah. But the chicks, the little chicks get up and they tell you what's fake to happen. But many, many, many times, they're wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Weather's hard to predict perfectly all the time. It's almost impossible. I think it is impossible. Oh, it's impossible. But what they've got planning coming on here in the next two or three days, granted, it's going to be a big blowout from the north way. It's coming down. But to do it at the scale and the speed is what Jason is saying.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I mean, I don't uncount the times on one hand where I saw it go from 60 to 12 in the same day. Right. Right. That's what they're saying. We'll see. I mean, that's a, that's a pretty, I mean, I've seen it's a pretty good drops. I don't know if I've seen one. 60 to 12. We've, we've gone years without it getting, without it getting below 20 degrees. Yeah. So, I mean, for us to go 12 and then the next night, it's like 15 and then 18. I mean, when you start seeing that, it's a, it's cold. But it's good for duck hunting. So my point was, I think we're going to be able to have a successful duck season. in comfort because if you get that kind of weather,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I think we can go to any blind we want to, as long as it's not frozen. Yep. And have a little heat. Louisiana, you very seldom, if ever, while I've been on there, three days in the teens. It doesn't get above the teens.
Starting point is 00:09:04 No, it doesn't. We rarely see that. But we had a, we had a, they were calling it the snowpocalypse that came through. Yeah, we did. A couple years ago. Yeah, that was pretty, pretty in Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And what happened down here? Really bad. Mass chaos and panic. You go to the grocery store? There's nothing there. That's right. People went crazy. People blowing.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh, yeah. It's just, because we're not really set up for it either. No. Pipes are busting. People are crying. It's, it's. I have a pretty good hill. My house is on top of a hill.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I never left the house for about five days. But I did have a. Well, you couldn't leave. No. I did have a young man that had four-wheel drive. And after two or three. Three days. He'd bring us by a few, a little bit of grubs and some groceries.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I had a big bunch of teenagers that got stranded at my house. And, you know, if you spend a week with a bunch of teenagers, Jesus will come up in a deep, personal, profound way. Because you get to know people when you're trapped. Right. And it took two or three days. But I thought, yep, we need Jesus here. The question is when they left it, they felt like they needed to do.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Well, you know, the jury's still out, Al, but I know one thing, God works, and I think that was needed. Yeah. When all the disciples were predicted by Jesus, he said he's going to do the destruction of the cosmos. The same Jesus said all of his followers, Peter, all of them, the disciples. they were all going to desert him. Yeah. They're saying, we'll never do that. Well, where did we leave all?
Starting point is 00:10:53 We're in March 14. So we were on the last podcast, we were talking about the Lord's Supper. And it was actually a Passover meal, but then Jesus was instituting sort of the new way to these disciples. Because the, Jace talked about experiencing Passover meal. You don't have the bread and the cup. You know, that's new. That wasn't part of the old regime. And so he introduces that.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And then we read about it also. I think they did it, but it was like not highlighted. You know, the lamb was kind of the main highlight. And so we were saying the blood was going to represent the wine. But his blood. Of course, they, you know, honestly, they probably had a hard time wrapping their head. They're like, what does he say? I don't think they were lying when they said.
Starting point is 00:11:44 we'll never leave you. Peter especially said, we will never leave you. We will never desert you. I don't think it was an outright lie. I think in his mind, he said, I'll be there till the cows come home here. I agree.
Starting point is 00:11:59 What I think happened was, and the reason I think Mark put the story within the story like he did many times, is because you got to remember, they were looking at this like, there's people, they're getting concerned about who Jesus is. They weren't.
Starting point is 00:12:17 There are plots, though, to kill him. And they're running with him. And so I think that's why Judas, you know, everybody kind of looked at how this is going to end. Just think about it. If you were running there. So they all had this decision that they had to make of, and now how far am I going to go with this thing?
Starting point is 00:12:40 Because this is getting dangerous. and uh you know he's been saying from from mark mart matthew mark luke and john all four of them he's been saying he's going to die yeah he said i'm going to die which they like uh but then the part about three days i'll rise again that's still not not they're thinking we don't know what that means but but that's not going to happen well they definitely didn't believe it because there's too many passages where it says after he was raised. Somebody tells you they're going to die in three days they'd be raised. Al, it's a tough.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I would say now, since it happened is possible, but we'll see. I don't think they heard anything after I'm going to die. That's right. That's right. Oh, oh, and you're going to be raised. Okay, yeah, we'll make a note of that. Raised later. Let me read what he says and Mark, and then I want to jump over to Luke
Starting point is 00:13:40 in Luke's account because he says something different there, and I just want to get y'all's take on it. Before I read this, let's take her first break. All right, so this is Mark 1427. This is right after the Lord's Supper part. He says, you will all fall away. Here's your opening statement. Imagine there's in there looking at it.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Well, this is after they sung a hymn. They just sung a hymn. I mean. Which we didn't mention this on the last podcast days, but I thought it was interesting that this is. a very sort of solemn, sad night because of everything that's happening to me. It's the last night. Judas
Starting point is 00:14:22 has been outed. He's saying he's going to die. He washed their feet. Now he's said, now he's, and they have this song in there, which I thought. I wonder if it was. Well, he outed himself. I mean, the next time you see Judas, he's going to be coming with a, that's right, with a bunch of soldiers with swords and clubs.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Most people don't realize if something is written from one of the prophets and then someone comes along and says, the time has come for that to happen. This is it. This is it. And he quotes Zachariah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Well, they were pretty probably well versed in the Bible, the people of that day, and all the disciples, you know. But they still didn't grasp, you know. Just because Zachariah said it 800 years ago, I mean, there's no, they're reasonably, you know, we can believe it. I mean. And I'm not, yes, it would be interesting to know how much they actually knew about that. says, you all fall away. Then he says, as you said, for it is written. So now he's going to give them the Old Testament quote,
Starting point is 00:15:22 I will strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered. So he's the shepherd. They're the sheep. And so he quotes this from Zachary 13. And then he said, but after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee. Okay. Let me tell you something. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And I began to believe it. But I was kind of in the camp, not that I had deserted him, I never had him to desert. But to look at it in that light, it does take faith. It does. And Jesus is acknowledging that once you get to, when you're getting all the blessings of following him, you know, you're healing your little world of their diseases. and it's exciting and miracles are happening and, you know, you raise a guy from the dead. And they participated in some of that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So then all of a sudden you get that. You're talking about. If it's happening, if it's happening, but it's still. Well, you're talking about heaven. And then all of a sudden, you start realizing this is going to cost me, especially your reputation. You're now your family's at risk. I mean, this is turned into some kind of mafia hit.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Right. And you're with the. wrong guy. You're with the guy saying, hey, you know, we're going to fight with some different weapons, which that's actually mentioning Luke. Yeah, which is I want to get to it. All right, so let me finish this. So he says, so Peter responds to Jesus. And Peter, there's no doubt about it out of the 12 throughout all these three years. He's the most vocal. He's the one willing to jump him, good or bad. Peter declares, even if all fall away, I will not. I'm another boy. I'm still here. I'm here. You can. You can.
Starting point is 00:17:15 depend on me. So this is like someone, someone pictured this as, I thought it was a good point, Peter on trial at the same time Jesus was going to go on trial, and Peter swore himself in right off the bat. That's right. I mean, he basically put his hand on the Bible and said, I'm in. If all fall away, I will not. I swear. So Jesus responds to him. I tell you the truth. Jesus answered, today, yes, tonight, before the rooster crows twice, you yourself would disown me three times. Not once, three times. Three times.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Which, man, that's, that was, but Peter insisted emphatically, even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you. And all the others said the same. A lot of people are looking at this and they're saying, well, it's just not fair to Peter. You know, I mean, he put too much on his, he tried to carry too much. But a lot of other ones say, you mean to tell me,
Starting point is 00:18:23 you all follow somebody based on readings like this? I said, that's why we follow him. That's right. But the Luke's version really reveals, I think, a lot. And before you read it out, I was going to skip down and read 54 of Mark 14 because, so, and we'll obviously get to this in a future podcast.
Starting point is 00:18:42 So Judas leads the army to Jesus. He does the deed. He betrays him with a kiss. And so they hauled Jesus off. Well, you notice Peter was following him at a distance right in the courtyard. But the reason I'm bringing that up is, because I've heard a lot of sermons about that and they're like, oh, when you're following at a distance.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But I think it's more positive. I think he was trying to hold his word. Yeah. He said, I'm not, because look, now we're no longer playing around. Armed men have taken your leader, and they're fixed to take him to a trial. And you being associated with him means you're in the crosshairs. So even him following at a distance was risky. And we also know, Jason.
Starting point is 00:19:35 The weight of it all had not quite reached Peter. Yeah, but you. Well, I think he was defending his. So here's why you're right. I agree with that it's that it's consistent, that this is a positive, because we know from the other accounts that, remember, there was a ruckus when this happened, that Mark doesn't record. We're fixed to read that.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I think you're going to read that in 22. Where is it at? It's in 22. Where he cuts a zero? Yeah, I mean, I think it's in. I don't think it is. It's not in Mark, I don't think. No, I'm talking about it's in loot.
Starting point is 00:20:09 no it's here so he's like in verse yeah yeah it's in verse 52 right no no yeah it's on it's in luke 22 47 Luke 22 so we'll back up and let you read but my point is my point is that what happens is you pick it up later and marthy's following from a distance but when peter whips out the sword which we're going to read about in luke about the swords and he cuts a guy's ear. So like he's he's ready to fight this thing out. I mean, let's let's do this. You know, I mean, he, to the point, he is defended. But I think what throws him completely off is when Jesus and I put that away and he puts the guy's ear back on. And it's like, we're not going to deal with it that way. And at that moment, I think Peter's like, well,
Starting point is 00:21:05 how am I going to stick with him if we can't fight it out? You see what I'm saying? It's about this time that the guy who lost his ear heard the a little conversation about, no, I'm going to put it back on right quick. Is that all right? I mean, it's about along in there when even his accusers, some of them are probably thinking, what have I got myself into? I just had my ear cut off. And whoever this guy is, we're arresting, he just puts it back on.
Starting point is 00:21:32 He was a servant of the chief priest. I thought about that before. Tell about a quick surgery. Surely that guy had to become a believer. Well, but you know they probably got back and they're like, no what? did somebody raise a sword because that's all part of the fulfillment of prophecy about you know you're in luke 2237 where it says i mean this is a highly controversial passage but really jesus it's not controversial when he said uh in verse 36 or i mean let me just read yeah read
Starting point is 00:22:06 how about that yeah so if you back up to where we're at start in verse 30 you're at start in verse 30 How about 31? Yeah, there you go. Because he makes a prediction. He says, Simon, Simon. And that was customary when you say that to mean affectionately, he's like, Simon. It'd be like if I said, Jay's, Jays.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Just hang on, brother. Satan has asked to sift you as wheat. Now, that's very interesting. I found this fascinating. Oh, I just love this. But I have interscienting. for you or prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. Now look, that's a, that's a prelude to what happens to us. It's Jesus at the right hand of God in First John, too.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That's right. There's no doubt in my mind about that. But it's also, there's a glimpse into Jesus' ability to go back and forth mentally or some way, spiritually, to get you out of some real message. Exactly. He realizes that, okay, you're fixed to have the most epic failure of all times. I mean, really? You're going to deny me and curse me in my face at my most important need after you said you weren't. That's right. And you're going to do it. Right. And now he then jumps ahead and Jesus says in verse 32, this is very powerful. He says, and when you have turned back, which you remember Judas was the exact exact opposite phrase when he said he's turned away.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That's right. And then he said he's going to betray me, but he said he turned away from me. So at some point he turned away and he's going to betray me. Well, Peter, he's already saying that Satan came on to sip you like wheat. Whatever that means can't be good for Peter. Not good. But Jesus stepped in, interceded,
Starting point is 00:24:07 And when you have turned back, look, strengthen your brothers. This is what I like about this statement because no other religion on the planet would ever put a guy like Peter in charge after what he does. That's right. You have been. It'd be blackball forever. Oh, you're disqualified. I mean, you were called Satan at one point. You have made this, you know, running your mouth the whole time.
Starting point is 00:24:31 One blunder after another. Make a prediction of, I'll go to prison. I'll die with you. with you and about 20 minutes later, you are literally doing the exact opposite, denying, and cursing your master. And also, the lesson for us is we should understand that God's there to help us to mediate for us. Oh, it's Jesus. He is ultimate.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He's there. When you say, well, I'll do this. And you don't do it. Well, he's, well, I'm gone. So I might well go back to the world because he's not going, he don't realize how far God will go. to keep you, keep you lined out, keep you, so what, watch what Peter says. Hang on, let's take a break.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Watch what Peter says, but he replied, Lord, I'm ready to go with you to prison and to death. Now, here's the interesting part, is that Peter was actually, you know, he committed his, I mean, I think betrayal in a way, as far as not acknowledging that he knew Jesus and the denial that we'll read later and just made a sham out of this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So he couldn't be any more guilty. And basically, Jesus forgives him, lets him off the hook. Even though he was just as guilty. I mean, this is as bad, I think, as you could do to be a follower of Jesus because it's really about, that's why later on there I went to their death
Starting point is 00:26:06 rather than deny him. And here's the irony of it is, is Jesus, didn't commit a crime on his trial, and he died so that he could forgive this very act that Peter shouldn't have got away with. No religious entity in the world would ever elevate him, they just wouldn't do it. But they're missing the key point is that grace transforms us. That's right. God looks at his righteousness, the son.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So that's why, you know, in 1 John 2, you ever notice that it says, we have one who speaks in the Father in our offense, Jesus Christ. And it says he is righteous and just. And so you say, what does that mean? Because we always think that Jesus, you know, representing us up there saying, well, you know, old Phil messed up again, you know, to give him another try. But it's not like that at all. it's just because he sees Jesus's righteousness with his innocent sacrifice for the forgive.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I mean, he paid our debt full. You don't have to pay them again. And that shows you his justice because of Jesus dying. So this is an illustration of that before it happens. That's right. And what's interesting, Jay says he lets him know that when you're healed from something, he says when you turn it back, in other words, when you, when you, when you, when you, you understand this, you don't even understand it yet. But when you do strengthen your brothers,
Starting point is 00:27:41 you don't have an opportunity because of what I'm going to help you overcome to then strengthen other people. This is what's setting up in my mind, Jesus telling Peter, you're going to be the leader of the book. Jesus had already handpicked him. And Matthew 16, when he said, you know, I'm giving you the keys to the kingdom. Blessed are you. You'll be back around. That's right. Remember, do you love me? Do you love me? Which we'll get to that, yeah, in the, in the afternoon. 1. John 1.9 is the verse I was claiming, if we confessor sins, he is faithful and just. So he's just because of who's doing the forgiving,
Starting point is 00:28:18 which is Jesus, and it's not us. So anyway, so then he says, Jesus says, well, I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me. But I remember he just said, you're going to you know the evil one wants to sift you like we and so that your faith you know may not fail is what jesus interceded for and then you're going to turn back so he's predicting now you're
Starting point is 00:28:51 gonna deny me but you're going to turn back to me i mean it's probably making his head spin okay now it's like no no no no not only will you not go to prison for me and will you not die for me you will say three times you don't even know me. Yeah. And the third time was horrible. It was like calling down curses. Right. Yeah, he just custom.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And Jesus stared at him in that moment. Yes, right. I don't know if that's in Luke. It may have one of the gospels that when he did that third. Yeah, it says while Jesus stared, he called down. Yeah, that's in this one. That's in Luke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So then, no, I was going to get to this. And I don't want to wallow in this, but this, It is interesting. It's only recorded in Luke, and people have made a huge deal out of this, and I do want to mention it because this will be our only chance, I guess. So verse 35, then Jesus asked them, when I sent you without purse, bag, or sandals, did you lack anything? So you remember that when he sent out the 72 and he gave him the power, and he's like, don't carry anything.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Now all of a sudden, they said nothing to answer. He said to them, but now, if you have a purse, take it. and also a bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Well, that's the controversial because you're like, well, wait a minute now. I thought this was a spiritual thing, not a physical thing. Well, he explains why he says that in 37. And this is, I don't know what y'all have to say about it, but this is my take on it.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Because then he says, it is written. And this is in Isaiah 53. And he was numbered with the transgressors. and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment. So Isaiah said he's going to be a number with the transgressors. And what I get out of this is when the men with clubs and swords came, because it's hard to arrest an innocent man for this severe crime.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But it had a look about it because they had their swords, which normally, because he said, the disciples said see lord here are two swords he said that's enough he replied so you said well what was he encouraging them to do some kind of rebellion well we know the end of the story no because when they come up there peter took one because peter got the idea based on what he just said oh we fixed a fight exactly so he strikes the man's ear and then jesus says in verse 51 no more no more of this then he heals the guy's ear he touched the man's ear and healed him, which is incredible. And so really, you know, look, I know people have written narratives about, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:37 the Second Amendment and the right to defend yourself. And look, which are all things I believe, but I think you're trying to get way too much out of here. Then, you know, he wasn't talking about later on the Second Amendment in this, he was talking about some swords. and having a look of their transgressors, and there's an uprising that they got to put down. Because that's the way they were going to sell that this guy needs to die. Now, why God chose to do that, I don't know, but he told Isaiah to prophesied,
Starting point is 00:32:13 and Jesus was fully aware of having that fulfilled. And so he's like, how many swords you got, too? Yeah. Yeah, you're good. So, I mean, is that how you see it? So let's take a break. Yes. And then I think there's one more element that he's referring to.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And that is he's basically saying, you know, I sent you out. Don't take anything. I'm here. I sent you on a mission while I'm here. But I'm fixing to not be here. And it's fixing to get rough. I think the idea of the transgressors too is the idea that you're going to be lumped in with me once I'm gone. So you better get everything you got ready because it's fixing to be for you like it is for me.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You're on the run now. And the moment that you're declaring Jesus. And look, there's not a whole lot has changed. We've talked about before. Right now, there's more persecution of Christians than has ever been. I mean, there are in some countries. I mean, there are people dying by the hundreds. And so...
Starting point is 00:33:16 In America doesn't seem to be really happy with us. Well, exactly. So, and there may come a day. But you think about, Jay's, in the moment of their understanding, this was all they could understand. And Jesus went with it. But what's going to happen is when we get over the book of Acts, they're going to do the same thing to Peter they did to Jesus. Remember, they got after him, they hatched a plan, they arrested him, they were fixing to execute him. And then, you know, an angel just shows up and he walks right out of prison and everybody falls down.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And then Peter gets it like Jesus did. He's like, oh, okay, I got it. This is bigger than swords. You know, this is spiritual warfare and I got God on my side, which is why he went willingly to his death, you know, in the 60s and was crucified as a upside down. Yeah, somewhere he says, look, I could call legions of angels and, you know, one of one of the gospels. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 In this one, in Luke, he just says, am I leading a rebellion? This is a 52, that you have come with swords and clubs. Every day I was with you in the temple courts and you did not lay a hand on me, but this is your hour when darkness rains. And so then they seized him and let him away. And then there's when Peter, so, yeah, pick it up from there. Yeah, then Peter's following out of a distance. So when they had kindled a fire, and I'm in Luke 2255, but Mark says about the same thing. Similar, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, middle of the courtyard and sat down together. Peter sat down with him. A servant girl saw him seated there in the firelight. She looked closely at him and said, this man was with him, but he denied it. I don't know him. A little later, someone else saw him and said, you also are one of them. I am not 59, about an hour. later another asserted certainly certainly this fellow was with him for he is a galilee peter replied
Starting point is 00:35:05 man i don't know what you're talking about and some of the others say that call down curses just as he was speaking the rooster crowed now here's where i was said the lord turned and looked straight at peter then peter remembered the word the lord had spoken to him before the rooster crows today you will disown me three times and he went outside and whip bitterly. That's heavy. Yep. And so I wondered, Jason, in that weeping moment, you know, I mean, obviously he's devastated
Starting point is 00:35:39 because, I mean, he was so bold in his prediction and all that. Now he realized, okay, Jesus was right. But I wonder if he remembered in that moment when Jesus said, but when he turned back, strengthened the brothers. I mean, I wonder if that just gave him up just enough comfort. Because, I mean, at this point, he's shattered, you know? I mean, and he, and I, and I. And again, I think the reason why it hit him so hard was because he wasn't going to be able to fight in the moment like he thought this fight needed to be fought.
Starting point is 00:36:07 We're going to take over. He knew Jesus had all this power. I mean, he experienced that. But now we're in the moment and the death is now is settled in. A lot of people will say they'll die for something until they get into the moment where you're facing it at eye. And then all of a sudden, this is a whole different ballgame. And it is for any of us, you know. I mean, you hear stories about people, even believers to this day,
Starting point is 00:36:30 that are asked to renounce their faith and say no and get killed. I mean, that's the ultimate. Yeah. So you fast forward to, and we'll read this awesome passage in John 21-7. So here's now Jesus, this is post-reserveat. So he dies. Last time you leave off with Peter, you know, he's weeping bitterly. And then there's some appearances and they have the excitement that Jesus has risen.
Starting point is 00:36:57 but we still had this this dark cloud hanging over Peter and it look it's not like any anything that we haven't experienced it's called guilt and shame that's right I mean and your reputation that's right if you think about it he went out of his way I'll die with you I'll go to prison you know I mean your your reputation is ruined you've been you and you did it to yourself and so when they said it's the Lord in verse 7 Peter, as soon as Simon Peter heard him say, this is verse 7 of 21 of John, it is the Lord. He wrapped his outer garment around him, for he had taken it off and jumped into the water.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I mean, he's not messing around. And so Jesus gets some fish. Verse 11, Simon Peter climbed aboard, dragged the net ashore. It's full of all these fish. Come, let's eat breakfast. They have breakfast. So then in verse 15, because I felt like I need to read this. that because it was a moment.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And remember, Jay, before you read this, this is the exact way in Luke chapter 5 that Jesus first impacted Peter. Remember, they had been fishing, who was sitting in his boat. And he said, why don't we let out a little, and put the nets back out? And Peter's like, well, Lord, we know what we're doing. We fished all night. We didn't catch anything because you say so. I would do it.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Then they caught that big, large catch of fish. And you remember Peter looked at Jesus said, go away from me. I'm a sinful man. So I think that's significant that Jesus decides to have the same scenario here in this moment. All right, go ahead. So when they had finished verse 15 eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, Simon, son of John, do you truly love me more than these? Because you got to remember, where did all this?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Why is he bringing us up? Because he said, hey, if all of them fall, I won't. There's no doubt he was making that connection because that, that's just where we left. off yes lord you know that i love you jesus said feed my sheep again jesus said simon son of jodd do you truly love me he answered yes lord you know i love you jesus said take care of my sheep the third time he said to him simon do you love me peter was hurt because jesus asked him the third time do you love me he said lord you know all things you know that i love you which i thought was a really good answer he's like you know you're asking but you know that it's true
Starting point is 00:39:28 Jesus said feed my sheep I tell you the truth when you were younger you dress yourself and went where you wanted but when you are old you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go and Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God
Starting point is 00:39:46 then he said to him follow me which is what he reasons said and let me tell you a warrior was born from this point on. Right. Yep. So let's take our last break.
Starting point is 00:40:05 One of the things, Jay's is interesting that when I studied this when we studied John, and it might be worth mentioning, and I don't know that it necessarily impacts it. The three questions seem to coincide with the three denials, you know, obviously. But one of the things you do realize in the Greek is that the first two, there's different Greek words for love.
Starting point is 00:40:24 First two times he says, do you love me? The Greek word is filial, which means French. basically is where we get brotherly love Philadelphia. The third time he asked him, he used the word agape, which you don't see a lot until you get over into the epistles. Agape means a self-sacrificing all-in love. I mean, that's the kind of love God's city has for us. So it is interesting that that third time, he shifted words on him to a much deeper level.
Starting point is 00:40:53 You know, like, okay, so we're brothers. You love me? Yes, yes. But do you agape? Do you love me so much now that you'll give it all in that word? And it's funny that he was hurt because it's almost like he's thinking, you don't trust me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Well, I think it was a response. Loving God becomes a reality, and it's for everyone. That's right. And no matter what happens. I think he also did this, because when you look at when he was calling down curses, I looked up that word. and it's kind of an unusual word. It's that word anathema, anathamatha, or how do you say that?
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, it's in anathema. Yeah. And it's like he was declaring that I'm cut off from, I can't be any more stronger than I am not with them. It is like a chasm. It's the same word that Paul used in, I think it's Romans 9 or 10, where he says, I would be anathema. I would be cut off and cursed if I could save all the juice.
Starting point is 00:42:01 In other words, if that's what it took. That's what it took. So that's a super strong word. That's so extreme just a few days ago. And now you have agape love, which I would venture to say is the exact opposite of his being cut off. In his denial is having a loving, unselfish, saccharacterious. sacrificial, it's not about me. I'm not doing this for profit.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I'm not doing this for just to get the blessings. I'm looking for the blessing giver. I mean, I love you because I love you. There's no, I'm not trying to get some. And I think that's full circle what redemption does. Because you think about it, he did something about his guilt and his shame. he redeemed not only his sins and guilt but his reputation because i mean i'm sure everyone is aware of this conversation and the reinstatement that happened he uh he's now wanting to use him
Starting point is 00:43:11 which is crazy that's why i said no other religious world would i mean he's just he's falling too far but you know three strikes you're out yeah god's like i want to use one strike maybe but Three in a row, you're out. Yeah, and I think it also gave him the freedom to, you know, in all this, to have a sense of humor, to get over his past, to live now as forgiven and redeemed. I mean, which is, I think, what really what grace does to us all. I mean, part of the reason I think our family resonated with people when we did our little, show is that we were willing to, you know, laugh at each other. And despite, I mean, we're not
Starting point is 00:44:00 like, unlike anybody else. We all have mistakes and all. But there's, there's something about being in Christ where you know you're forgiven. It gives you a confidence that you know why this is happening. So, you know, we point people to God and his message of grace through Jesus. But this transformation allows you to laugh at the, at the little stuff. Even our past, you know, I mean, it's not like we're taking sin lightly. but we just realized that, you know, once you're redeemed, you're redeemed. There's no condemnation in Christ Jesus. You've been justified because of who Jesus is and what he did and what he does.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And that's why you have real joy and real peace. It's hard to explain that to people who haven't been soaked in God's grace and love. Right. But you see here, I think Jesus said this somewhere, the bigger the fall, the bigger the appreciation. and a lot of people are like, well, does that mean I go sin a month? No, it just means you just wouldn't think that he could have ever recovered over this, but he did. And it had nothing to do with him.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Well, and he put that, one of the references you're talking about is also in Luke, Luke 7, where he told Simon, the bigger the acceptance of forgiveness, the bigger the capacity of love. That was the way he framed it. In fact, the love of Jesus has never questioned in any of the, this. Right. Peter going up and down and up and down. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:26 He's saying one thing and do it another. Oh, he just loved him. I mean, God's unoffendable. That's right. He'll, he'll forgive you. And it's really hard for people. There's a lot of people that use this as an excuse, this right here, for not coming to Christ.
Starting point is 00:45:39 A lot of people, you make one mistake. Oh, yeah. You're out. Well, they don't like it. People don't like a system that they feel is not fair. And they're like, if a guy does all these heinous sins, and there's another guy who's a pretty good moral person, you're putting them on the same line,
Starting point is 00:45:58 and that's just not fair. That's right. God said, oh, yeah, it's fair. I'm forgiving them. That's why he tells the stories about, you know, I hired some guys early in the morning, and I agreed to pay them, and then I hired some real late,
Starting point is 00:46:11 and I paid them the same thing. That's right. You're like, well, that's not fair. Well, it's a picture of grace. They're making as much as we are. Working half a half a half of grace. it's it's there's there's some people that boy they done they did a lot of cutting up and you got to realize god knows the hearts you're not going to hoodwink him and he knows he's sincere and
Starting point is 00:46:32 peter was sincere judas wasn't yeah judas ended up in a in a ditch you know he turned away guts spilled out yeah he turned away that was the difference you know so even when peter was following at a distance, I do think there was something there. As long as you're still scrapping, you're still alive, you know, you're still searching. You'll have these encounters with Jesus that matter, which is really, even though it was frustrating for him, well, I'm telling you, it was like turning on a switch because you read the rest of the Bible and Peter is a stud. I mean, he is a star.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And you think about it, it's definitely his charisma. and his potential that God and Jesus knew all along. Because you remember how he came in. Remember was Andrew, his brother, and Andrew and Nathaniel had been following John the Baptist. So these guys had been, they had been understanding way before these other ones. And so their thought was, boy, if we can get old Peter, it's sort of like what Jan said about you. If we could ever get Phil, we could do something. And that's what they were thinking about him.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So even though these epic failures are there in those three years, Jesus always something. all the potential for Peter. Yep. When he gets this turned around, you're going to believe what you're going to see, which is what I want to talk about in the overtime we get there. Because when you look through the first 12 chapters in Acts, I mean, Peter's a rock star. Oh, yeah. Of the beginning of the church.
Starting point is 00:48:03 But you really don't understand how great that really is until you see him in this moment. And just a little bit of time we have left, Jay. I did think it was interesting that Peter, at the end of John, when he tells him, you know, basically how he's going to die. I mean, he doesn't give him the specifics, but it's like, it's not going to be good. And he looks over at Johnny's like, what about him? In other words, if this is going to be, he says, bad, what about this guy?
Starting point is 00:48:26 And then Jesus said, if I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me. And we talked about this back when we were in March 13. But the idea is the idea of Jesus coming and going. You know, and we talked about the destruction of Jerusalem. But Jesus also is going to reveal himself to John in Revelation, which is the last. thing we're going to get in scripture. And so what he's saying is, I got something else for him.
Starting point is 00:48:53 You just need to focus on you. It's kind of like he reinstated him. He loved him. He received his love. And then he like slapped his hand and said, hey. Because once again, Peter says that one thing. This is not about you and your compadres. That's exactly right.
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