Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 612 | Phil & Jase Have the Same Problem & It INFURIATES Missy & a Tornado Warning in West Monroe

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

Phil and Jase tragically share the same, er, recollection problem. And for that, they're on Missy's list. Phil doesn't know why his family calls him the different names they do. Jase has the ultimate New Year's resolution for anyone. Plus, when a tornado warning hit West Monroe, how did Phil and Miss Kay and Jase and Missy respond? And why does it take a moment like Damar Hamlin's terrifying cardiac event on the football field to remind ALL of us that life is short and we need to be thinking about eternal life? And a deeper study of Jesus' death on the cross. "The Blind" hits theaters this fall. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed podcast. We're still looking for Zach in an undisclosed locations. Nothing's changed since the last podcast. Apparently he's wandering around somewhere in the wilderness. Or as dad said, in a jungle somewhere. You got to go through the wilderness. We wanted Zach for the last podcast because it got a little political, just because that's where the word took us. with Jesus being on trial and you start seeing the political motions happened that basically ended up

with the innocent paying for a crime he didn't commit and the guilty being set free. A tremendous misuse of justice. Yeah, it really was. But you know, it's kind of ironic. I hadn't thought about it, but Zach, we say that because he says that

because he ran for Congress, you know, from our district back when we lived in West Monroe. But, you know, we've said many times since he lost, he barely lost. It was very close, just less 800 votes, something like that. But we've talked about it before, looking at it now that we've had a few years since he ran, this is the best thing that ever happened. I mean, Zach's had a much bigger impact on the kingdom and even the political world by not winning than he would have if he had won. Who knows?

He might have gotten in. Well, ultimately, Jesus's point on everyone. on the side of truth listens to me pretty much weeded out a lot of politicians. Yep. That's just a public service announcement that because even pilots respondable, what is truth? What's that got to do with anything? So the truth being Jesus, Jesus said, I am the truth. You're looking at it.

That's why I always say the New Year's resolution should be a daily resolution of reading the red letters of Jesus on a daily basis. Find out for yourself who Jesus is. If you want to have a basis of truth to make decisions, that should be first and foremost. Yep. That's funny, Jay. As you said that, because in a sermon I preached recently right before New Year's, I said, if you want a New Year's resolution, go read the red letters this year. Did you?

I did. I said that. I've said that a thousand times to my kids, to my wife, to, like, every time we've ever had a, what we call a come to Jesus meeting, which means usually it meant somebody messed up. And we're having a meeting about it. But we always, and always, that was the number one thing. I was like, what are we going to do about it? We're going to read the red letters of Jesus because ultimately his righteousness

blankets us. And, you know, as we find out the facts about Jesus and his personality and his character and the things he did and the way he thought and this, this comes into our lives, you know, via the Holy Spirit, this is our basis for making decisions from no matter how small they seem or how big they seem. where is Jesus in this equation? And so when I would ask that with my kids, the first answer was always nowhere to be found.

And I'm not throwing them under the bus. We're all thrown under the bus at some point. And we lose our way. And Jesus is always the way back. But I'm saying compared to life changing and society changing things, the truth of who Jesus is will be much more transforming for the good in every facet of your life than anything political.

It's just a fact. Yeah, it reminds me of that story. I think I've told it before. I heard a preacher one time, and he was doing the story of Neiman. And you remember Elijah's servant, Gihazzi, he winds up, you know, sneaking back and getting some goods out of old Neiman because he wanted to pay for his healing. And so whenever Elijah asked him, he said, and of course, this guy would have been young. he said, where have you been?

And the Hebrew for the answer was nowhere in particular. And so the guy made the point, the preacher said, when a teenager or young person tells you they've been nowhere in particular, that means they've been somewhere in general. And so I've always thought that was true of young people because, you know, that's exactly the way they answer. They kind of sidestep truth. So, Jason, we had some comments from the recent podcast about dad not remembering who his youngest son was.

Yeah, his name. Now, we deem that as a senior moment, but I'm going to defend Phil, and for you that, you know, you may be listening for the first time, Phil was going down through all his kids, and when he got to Jep,

he said, what was it, and which one is that? What was his name? What's the fourth one? What's his name? Now, I will say this. Phil has always had trouble with people's names. He never,

would use people by their given they. I'm not sure what they did it. We all have nicknames. Even, you know, Al, your Al, I became J's. Willie's had all sorts of names in his life. Yeah, he was Willie J. He was Will. He was Jess.

For a long time. Right. And a man of many names. Yeah, he had a lot of names. He had a lot of hairstyles, a lot of body types. He's been diverse just in his existence. and just the things he did and continues to do. But the reason I was taking up for that is because,

I don't know if being in your 50s is considered having a senior moment, but I am incapable of keeping up with the ages of my kids. And it drives my wife just it infuriates her. Because they'll say, what do they, somebody else say now? She's really infuriated at me. Phil, you're on the list. There's a old is Jason's oldest one. I'm like, well, let's see, he's.

I mean, Phil, you don't know how we are, probably. And so. But I'm. Al gave me a report. He was three years shy of 60. He just wanted to let me know that. But I said, boy, that was a slam down. I said, three years from 60.

Good grief. Yeah. So every time half of them, half y'all call me Phil and the other half calls me Dad. I don't know what that's about. So, but you're not offended, I don't think. I wake up at night looking at all they call me all these months. That doesn't happen, Jay. Well, I was taking up for Phil because every time people say, well, so how old are your kids?

I stop and think. And I give I give generalities of the age. I say, you know, Reed, he's, he's 26, 27, 20, somewhere in there. Missy's like, do not do that. Because you're saying you don't know. Well, I don't know. Oh, I'm a no-good rascal for that. if you look at if i wrote every down all my kin and all of the what this has produced

your mama and me and then their children and their children's children if i had to put the age of it down it would be laughable yeah you're still grappling with who they are then i'd be in the ballpark i tried to explain to missy i was like i realize numbers are important because there's a book in the bible named numbers so it is important and i will try. I mean, I've tried to seek her counsel to figure out how to remember that. But it just on the spot when you ask me, I'm not going to get them all right. And it infuriates her because she's like, well, you can remember how many ducks came in on a day 20 years ago that y'all argue about constantly. And I'm like, well, because we're always arguing about it. We're always

bringing it up, we won't let it go, but I'm not arguing about my kids ages. I will make one comment. The reason why that's difficult to get it nailed down, if you have a lot of children, and they have a lot of grandchildren

and great... Good, help me, I need some help. Yeah, well, all of that because life moves at such a speed that we don't, and when James says it's like a vapor, well, to keep up with everybody's exact age, it becomes quite, quite, it's tough. I think so.

Because they look at them and you remember them, you know, when mom brings them in, but you're little children running around, but you look up one day and there you are, our crowd in 60. So when I said that exact line to Missy, what you just said, I said, you know, life is tough. We got a lot going on. No, it's not. No, you need to remember how old your kids are at all times.

I would say you need to remember about their faith, not their age. Concentrate on their faith. Is it there or not? I'll try that. I'll let you know how it works out. So here's my theory as to this. So because I do remember things pretty well, but I think it's your birth order. So the oldest in a family tends to always be the historian of a family because they just, it's their role.

This may not be a universal truth. It is true, Al, that you remember more, and I'm not going to say meaningless facts because, you know, a lot of them, a lot of details like from the Old Testament and just random facts. I'll ask Al. I'll say he knows this. I've heard it, but I did not retain it. Think about it. You got Jason's kids. You got Jason's kids.

You got Isle's kids, Jets' kids, Willie kids, and Jep's kids. There's kids. There's kids. There's kids. And their kids have kids. Jeff has women who are at the marrying age, his children. Exactly. You say, yeah, what's that boy?

She's going to marry. I said, are you kidding? I don't know. I mean, they're going to college. They're in school. I see them at Thanksgiving and Christmas. You say, how old is the one that the third one down is dating? I'm like, the third one, let me see.

I mean, I haven't seen them walk by, but about three times. Well, it's more than three times. But to your point, it is. It is a lot. We were at Thanksgiving, and it was family and friends. Do you know all of Jep's children's boys, they're dating? It's all women there. Do you know all their names and ages?

You know what? Addresses? Well, women. No, addresses, no. I do know. most of their boyfriends and but you know Silla just has a new boyfriend so no I don't I looked him in the eye was like how you doing but uh yeah but I live his name is

his name is bitten by the way but I live beside him yeah I live beside him so I know more than you yeah but what if you didn't live by them at all you just saw him three or four times well what I was going to say is when I was at the Thanksgiving with family and friends, I actually wanted to introduce myself about 20 times. I didn't any because I acted like I knew everyone, but there was 20 encounters where I didn't know who that was off the top of my head. I sit there and way, way, way out there, not knowing that there are. Ms. Kay knows.

Yeah, I know. I said, what's that boy's name? That's what we're bringing this up for. I'm really not sure what to do about this. I think we have a problem, but I'm not sure how it's... I've never found the verse where it says all of your families and their structure and their siblings. You must know their names and address. Well, I think it would be better if we did.

I think what if we had what we did for our little one that we were fostering, we had pictures of all the people, you know, in his life, and he would look at the people. the pitcher. Maybe if we had a little roll-a-deck of pictures with name on a yearly basis that went out, because they're all about taking pictures. Now, everywhere we go,

everything we do. I mean, look, last night, a tornado warning hit. I don't do the hit down there. Oh, they called, say, get out, that's right there, but I looked up and I said, it's a little south of us, and it's already

to the north of us. It missed us. They're like, why are you talking about this? They're chewing me out because I, I'll walk. Missy and I were the only people at our house. I walked by her. She's on the couch. And she said, where are you going? I mean, I had my computer.

I was actually preparing for what we're talking about here. And I said, well, I'm going to the lowest floor of our house, which is my hunting closet. Because it has a lot of hunting clothes and sleeping bags. all and I do not missy stays out of there so to say it's not organized and it's is an understatement so I just go and just plop down in the middle of it which is and there was two big sleeping bags I have this big yetty bag that you can go sleep on the desert with and so I just plop down there and I'm I'm working so she comes down there says what are you doing I said it's a tornado warning you can pick out a spot here she's like no I think it it's missed us as she

She's taking a picture of me on the floor of the mud room. I said, what are you doing? She said, I'm taking a picture of this. Why? We got a document where I go when a tornado warning. I just, I was flabbergasted at the pitcher being taken. Let's, let's take a break. But then I thought, well, if the tornado hits and I die,

this is going to be the last moment. She did it. She captured the last moment. But here's what I like, Jay. Missy would rather face the wrath of a potential tornado than go into your man cave. She wouldn't do it. That's what I'm saying. I said, if I were you, I would come join me.

They're giving it a tornado warning. She's, I'm looking. It's going to the south of us. They feel pretty strongly about it. My phone's going. and go to the, so I guess the point of this is we're all humans and we all have our weaknesses.

Hers is listening to weather-related warnings. Mine is remembering the ages of our kids. And dad, did you ever move out of your chair when all the tornado warnings were going on? Did you get to an interior closet in your house? I did not. Well, in Phil's defense. However, but you can hear one coming.

Well, in Phil's defense, where's he going to go? Well, that's true. That little middle room and that little middle room, it's got walls off. Yeah. Phil? Okay. I would pray.

And by the time you leave, there's no really where to go. I'm surrounded with huge trees. Oh, yeah, I know. They can fall. I mean, there's no getting out of their trees. Have either one of y'all ever been? Has the tornado ever come by? I've never been in a situation.

One came all up. It's been about, oh, seven or eight years ago, it sounded like a train in the air. And it came over, I said, Miss Cave, that is a tornado. Well, just below us, it crossed the river, picked up about between us and that next little town down there. But it cut a path through the woods for a while. But with us, it was in the air. I heard it. Sound like a train.

I said, that is a tornado. It got louder and louder. and I told us it, it gets any louder, we're going to have to get some shelter. But it passed on over and missed us, but it sure threw the ground up. It cut a swat. You need a storm shelter. Right away. Yeah, the people dig the holes in the backyard.

But the problem is you couldn't dig very far and you didn't get into water where you're at. Yep. Well, out of all the weather phenomenon, for whatever reason, tornadoes frighten me the most. And I think it's just because they're suddenness. but I've talked to people in the Midwest and, you know, up where they're a lot more prevalent. And they claim they're much more in tune warnings than we would be because, you know, you have the thing on your phone, Jay's. They said they've got an all kind of siren system.

But I'm like, man, when you see one of those bad boys get on the ground, if it's a bad one, it's just where do you go? What do you do? I've seen it where it peeled up the whole, you know, right down to the foundation. Oh, yeah. It's the scary thing. It's tough. I'm thankful it passed on over.

Yeah, me too. So we're talking about the crucifixion. Jay's, I feel like we need to, we had some really good points in the last overtime, and I thought we need to kind of maybe start there to kind of set us up for the crucifixion. We were in John chapter 19. Well, just, yeah, because of John. I think, Jay, if you, as you speak on these matters, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, I'll just say over and over and over again,

eternal life is hanging on this. Let you all talk. Eternal life is hanging on this. I mean, literally, we know we're all going to die. We got one shot, and we're looking at the way to get out of here. Until somebody comes up with a better story, Al, I'm staying with this one. I see no downside to believing that Jesus died was buried and raised from the dead. I see no downside.

No, I'm glad you brought it up. I mean, we had talked about, of course, we filmed these podcasts a few days before they air, but we were talking about the Buffalo defensive back, Damar Hamlin, who had that episode in that game where literally people just stood still at the mortality of human beings. I mean, playing football didn't look like a very big collision. And all of a sudden, you know, they're doing CPR and everybody's watching this. And immediately. I think, Jay, what made it so big was this was a big game.

It was, you know, hype so big. You had the two, two of the best three quarterbacks in the league playing. So, I mean, it had a huge viewership as well as, you know, this audience of people that were there. Well, I think this platform is what made it so huge. No, I think you're right. And, you know, we're big Joe Burrow fans because he was at LSU. and I mean, we're watching the game. And I was amazed at a couple things.

It just how all of a sudden prayer just became something everyone would seem to be doing and mentioning, you know, usually a lot of people. There's nowhere else to go to. They picked their words carefully, you know, and you're like, well, this guy must not be a believer. He's not, you know, our thoughts are with you. But by the time that went because, I mean, they, I don't think. think that has ever happened where they just stopped a game no now at first you know they were like five minutes we're going to come back and play but the players were looking around like do what i'm sitting there as a son of god saying life itself is is you never know well right it and to your

point about keep when that's why i was going with this when you're when you're saying look eternal life is on the line people don't really stop and think about that until you see some kind of mortality we see a guy who now everyone is rooting for I mean we set a prayer for him I mean because it was horrible to watch

and this is happening every day on our planet in some way but there's something about seeing that and seeing people's response and even you're seeing the best of people and the worst of people because you know I think it's horrible to say five minutes

hey y'all warm up five minutes let's get back to it it. I mean, that was not in good light. And you see people who are no longer reading from a script when something like this happens, they're just coming off their, you know, their life's journey to try to comment on this. Well, some really stepped up. You were like, okay, and you sensed a spiritual nature about them. But then you saw others that were just literally like a deer in the headlights. Reality sometimes is a shocking thing, but life is short and full of trouble. I mean, there's a lot of ways you can be dealt with eternal life one way or the other.

The reason we're hauling about eternal life, that's before someone passes out on a football field. We're letting them know we're all fragile. I mean, life is short and dangerous, and this is a tough game. And it is, and it makes what we're discussing here with Jesus, here is, you have, you have, an eternal being you know when you read john one because you know we're reading john's account because mark just gave the basically the short version of jesus being on trial with pilot and then his ultimate death but you know john one starts off saying in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god he was with god in the beginning through him all

things were made without him nothing was made that has been made in him was life and that life was the light of men and when you read verse 14 that the word became flesh and made us dwelling among us we've seen as glory the glory of the one and only who came from the father full of grace and truth well we know this is jesus it's you know verse 17 of chapter 1 for the law was given through Moses. Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but God the one and only who is at the father's side has made him known. So fast forward to us reading in John 19, here is the creator of the universe who created everything, nothing that was made was made without Jesus being a part of it. And now he's becoming a human showing us how to live, never committing a sin,

doing all these wondrous things, bringing out the best in all people, in both genders, male and female, bringing out the best, bringing people together. And now all of a sudden, he is a victim of the worst injustice imaginable, because not only did he not commit the crime, they were accusing of him that he did he committed no crimes i mean he should have got the human achievement award lifetime achievement award he never said one time and uh and so he's railroaded which in a way makes us mad but then we realize oh wait this was god's plan for him to take our place from the beginning and to receive the punishment that we deserve for our wrong decisions because this same guy gave us the choice and to shower us with the righteousness

that he accomplished. And so it's a beautiful story. It's factual in that it's based on all these historical prophecies that came true. And so right in the middle of it, you want to be able to look back at the big picture. And so I think we left off where in the overtime out in John 19 Hang on for you Before you read that Let's take a break When Pilate heard that

You know Jesus claimed to be the son of God He's now he's already Because up to now was about a king Now of a sudden They're saying he claimed to be the son of God That's a little bit of game And Jesus had said look I'm not the king

Like you think Where I'm trying to pick up weapons He said that I'm not of this world my kingdom is of another place. It's of another world. And everybody on the side of truth listens to me. He's like that we are an army of people who have put their faith and trust in the truth that I am.

And so now all of a sudden they're like, well, these leaders are claiming he's the son of God. And he's blaspheming and he's a sedition. because he's claiming to be king and you must strike him down. So Pilate then says, well, where do you come from? He asked Jesus, because he had said his kingdom was not from there. But Jesus gave him no answer. Do you refuse to speak to me, Pilate said. Don't you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?

And Jesus spoke up then. You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore, the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin. So he, number one, acknowledges this is God's plan, and he's going to surrender to this power, even though the opposite thing that Pilate thinks he's going to accomplish, which is Jesus being killed and taken care of, is going to happen. But it also shows us that when someone has power over us, even if it's to do something wrong, wrong, we serve as long as it's within God's plan. I mean, this is a great example of that. Because this stuff happens even today. People who have power, and I mean worldly power,

they usurp that over people who are trying to live for Jesus, but in the end, God's plan is bigger and better. And this, more than any other place in the history of the world, proves that because the greater plan happened. So verse 12, from then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but they kept shouting, if you let this man go, you're no friend of Caesar. And so then in 13, Pilate heard this. He brought Jesus out, sat down on the judge's seat

at a place known the stone pavement. It was the day of preparation of Passover, about the sixth hour. He said, here's your king. Now, he'd already flogged. He's already been flogged twice, I think, at this point. He's beating down. He's being mocked. He has a purple robe on the crown of thorns.

And they shouted, take him away, take him away, crucify him. Shall I crucify your king, pilot asks. We have no king but Caesar, the chief priest answered. Finally, Pilate handed him over to be crucified. Yeah. And so I think, you know, we talked a lot about in the overtime last time about applications. And I think one of them is that. idea of pilot assuming that he had the power over Jesus, and Jesus reminds him no.

And I think it's just a great picture of human arrogance that somehow you think, you know, you're in power when you're really not. And so we talked about it, how you see that even in current political structure. People will do all sorts of things in politics. But ultimately, it's only what power you give them. And so we ultimately know that we stand on the side of truth, no matter who's in power. what party it is or whatever. Who was the one that the worms ate up?

That was Herod. Over the book of facts. That was Herod. The same one. His life didn't end well. It didn't. And it's interesting because I don't know that we mentioned this when we were talking about this,

but the Matthew account of this discussion with Pilate, Matthew notes that Pilate and Herod became big buddies over this situation with Jesus. They had not had a political alliance. until now. But like you said, Dad, ultimately it didn't matter because we get over to Acts 12. The Bible says that the angel of death struck him with worms. And so they ate him from the inside out. So it wasn't a pretty ending, you know, when judgment comes. So this takes us up to the point of the crucifixion, which, you know, obviously, like we've said, this has been predicted. This has been pointed to. It had to happen this way. The curse on the tree. We've talked about

that the prophecy being fulfilled and so now we're going to get to that point well i wanted to make one point though because when you brought up that x 12 you know 21 when on the appointed day herod wearing his royal road set on his throne and delivered a public address to the people they shouted this is the voice of a god not of a man immediately because herod did not give praise to god and angel the lord struck him he was eating my worms and died but this next verse is what i wanted to bring up but the word of god continued to increase and spread. And really, you remember Jesus' word that is the final judge for us, the words that he spoke, he brought that up many times in the Gospels.

That's what remains, and that's why he told Pilate that everyone on the side of truth listens to me. And the bottom line, we're reiterating this. the truth about Jesus is more life-changing and transforming and solid to every fabric of our society and in your personal life than anything a political power is going to present. Because you got to remember political powers, their number one goal is to stay in power. That's it. Jesus' number one goal is to transform you and to live with you forever in heaven, which is the better avenue of power to go after.

Seems like a no-brander to me. Exactly. So, I mean, I think that's why you've got to realize that. We're not knocking politics. I vote every time the election is there, and I'm thankful that we do that. But I know if you want to have real change in your life, you need to read the red letters on a daily basis.

And the point is, let's take another break. The point is, whether you're in this world under a dictatorship, under communism, under socialism, under capitalism, under our former government, there are believers under each one of those different kinds of governing parties. And we're all brothers and sisters with those people. And we all are part of the same kingdom. That's what makes us so amazing and so fascinating. So I wanted to read before we get into the Mark verse. version of or his take on the crucifixion because there's a lot of obviously through this whole process we've been looking at different gospels. I wanted to read Isaiah 53 because it's so powerful.

We made a big point out of this thing that all this was actually before the creation of the world, the process and how Jesus would save us has been known. And so throughout human Jewish history especially, it's been prophesied about over and over and over again. And Isaiah 53 is basically 700 years before this event happens. And so in Isaiah 53, so over 700 years before this event happens. But I wanted to read this because it's so powerful when we actually get into reading how it happened to read how Isaiah said it would happen over 700 years before it did happen. And here's what he said. And remember, this is available to all the Jewish people. So they, they're aware of this prophecy in this scripture,

even the ones who were saying crucified. First one says, who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected. by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces, he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely we took up our infirmities, surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities.

the punishment that brought us peace was upon him and by his wounds we are healed we all like sheep have gone astray each of us is turned to his own way and the lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all he was depressed and afflicted yet he did not open his mouth we talked about that strong silence judge he was led like a lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before her shearers is silent he did not open his mouth by oppression and judgment he was taken away, and who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living, for the transgression of my people, he was stricken. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it was the Lord's will to crush him and to cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand. After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied by his knowledge. My righteous servant will justify many,

and he will bear their iniquities. Therefore, I give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death and was numbered with the transgressors, for he bore the sins of many and made intercession for the transgressors. That was Isaiah's take. over 700 years before the actual event happened.

And tell me how spot on it was for everything we've talked about up until this point. You reckon some of them said, we might ought to check out that Isaiah text here, boys. I mean, you would think they knew what you just read. But it's just like we talked about it. You don't, we all get going through life. and then even when we were talking about the football player, then all of a sudden, the complete mood changes.

But we all know that that's a possibility for everybody. And I think that's what happened here. It's the old, you know, the saying you don't see the forest for the trees. You know, because everyone was the followers of Jesus were thinking the consequences for following Jesus at that. moment was you could be killed. I mean, that's what they're thinking. You're not thinking, oh, this is, this is great.

This is what, this is, the Lord is working. I remember that passage and I was that, no, you're running for your life. It gets real when there's a threat or danger to your life. It just life gets real. But you think about that, I think a lot of it was because their leadership, the teachers of the law, the chief priest, the elders, the people that did know this text intimately, they're spurring them on to say crucify them.

They're saying this is not him. This is not him. And they just followed it. But you know when they did get it, whenever Peter stood up in Acts 2, after the resurrection and ascension and after the Holy Spirit was poured out, and he said, you with the help of wicked men put him to death, then it hit home.

Then all of a sudden it was. like, whoa, that was us. We did that. That's when they got it. All of a sudden, they were cut to the heart. That's right. They said, we're on the wrong side of this thing. What do we do?

Remember, he warned them. He pleaded with them. He gave quite the speech. Well, this is the equivalent. What happened to Jesus is the equivalent of an emotional riot that just escalated. And emotions got to run. And you got powers that be fueling the fire. and the next thing you know, Jesus is dead.

And then the next thing you know, it was God's plan for this to all happen. That's painful it was. And then the light bulb did come on for everybody. Which was the entire point. That's right. Let's take our last break. But, you know, look, I would like to thank Al

that all these people that were a party of this once Jesus is resurrected, and the message starts going forth by the power of the Holy Spirit. You got to think they then had to have a contemplation. We're living proof it reached all the way to hear that 700 BC year that all that was going, Isaiah was talking about it. Yeah, but my point is. It finally reached down all the way.

What happened when it reached to those guys who were part of the coup? That's what I want to know. When they're like, remember that guy we killed? Well, they say he's back. Do what? I mean, I know that had to have happened. Oh, yeah. Well, and you know it did.

And we also know from later after the resurrection that they went in and basically bribed the guards to say, this never happened. So they were still willing to cover up the truth with lies even after he'd been raised from the death. They had no explanation for what happened to him. Well, if you fast forward over 2,000 years since that happened, and you look at modern-day Israel, I don't know whether they got it or not, Al. What do you think? A lot of people still missing it. There's no doubt about it.

They've been missing it all long. It's just a lot more of them. Let me read this text in Mark 15. We'll get the marked version of it, and then we'll talk a little bit the rest of our time about some of the other version. It says in verse 21, because we got it right to the point where, finally, you know, Pilate has said, all right, and he turns him over to be crucified. A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross. Which I've always imagined, what if you're this guy? I mean, you know, you're in for the Passover.

He's probably, we imagine it being a big guy, but I don't know that he was or wasn't. But Jesus at this time is so broken down and beaten, he's having a hard time carrying his cross. they brought Jesus to the place called Galgatha, which means the place of the skull. Then they offered him wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it. And the implication of that is this was to help take away some of the pain. And they crucified him, dividing up his clothes. They cast lots to see what each would get. So this is his executioners.

The only thing he really had, I guess, in his possession. It was the third hour when they crucified him. The written notice of the charge against him read the king of the Jews. They crucified two robbers with him, one on his right and one on his left. Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shaking their heads and saying, So, you who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, come down from the cross and save yourself. They're still mocking him right up to the end.

In the same way the chief priests and teachers of the law mocked him among themselves, He saved others, they said, but he can't save himself. Let this Christ, this king of Israel come down now from the cross that we may see and believe. Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him, which we're going to get that in a lot more detail. The very thing they're telling him what he should do, not realizing that he has to do this. That's right. Yeah, it didn't matter. And it's just the nature of human beings.

everybody wants to be on the winning team so at this point when he's hung on the cross they're pretty much saying you've lost your movement is over so then it's to me this reminds me like social media you know the when everybody starts ganging up but because they they're want to be on the winning side and so you're real bold when you're looking at a person hanging on the cross who made these claims because you got to remember jesus was threatening to people's lives which we talked about a couple of podcasts ago because he confront them way down deep in their soul and their heart and there's a reason that people change when they encounter jesus or jesus encounters them i mean this is so all of a sudden that this

basic human rebellion of ain't nobody going to tell me what to do Yeah, you claim to be, you know, some kind of God and look at you. I mean, there's just piling it on. So one of the things we read about in Isaiah was this idea about humiliation. I mean, it was obvious that it was predicted. It would be a humiliating experience, and it was. The reason that Roman execution was done this way was to humiliate the criminals to keep people in line. So, you know, you didn't die from the being nailed to the tree.

tree, you die because you suffocated because you couldn't, after a while, your body sinks to the point where you can't get a breath. And then if you didn't die quick enough, they would come and break your legs where you couldn't push up to get a breath. So, I mean, this is a terrible way to die. And this is the son of God who's never sinned, who is being humiliated in this way. So I think the gravity of that you have to recognize. And it was done on purpose. And my theory is it was done to show how bad sin is. Let me read the rest of this in the rest of our time here.

Verse 33. At the sixth hour, so now we know it's been three hours since this process started because started at the third hour. At the sixth hour, darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour. So now we've got three more hours under some kind of supernatural eclipse. And at the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, L-O-I-L-O-I, Lama Sub-Uctani, which is Aramaic. It means, my God, my God, why have you for

forsaken me. And we talked about that earlier, the meaning of that statement. When some of those standing near heard this, they said, listen, he's calling Elijah. One man ran filled a sponge with wine vinegar, put it on a stick, and offered it to Jesus to drink. These are all prophecies being fulfilled. Now leave him alone. Let's see if Elijah comes to take him down, he said. With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last. The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. That's very significant. When the centurion who stood there in front of Jesus heard his cry and saw how he died, he said, surely this man was the son of God, which is pretty amazing. Some women were watching from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, married the mother of James the younger and of

Joseph and Salome. In Galilee, these women had followed him and cared for his needs. Many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem were also there, which we talked about the significance of that as well. So you see in this process, it's an end, but of course we know it's not the end. It's the beginning of something that's going to be very different. But I thought it was interesting, Jason, when you look at the people who are standing around him, some are still curious to see, you know, know, because they're saying, oh, let's see if Elijah saves him and not in a good way. Others who were there had been there from the beginning, but it was only the women who seemed to hang in there with him through the process. And then you had this Roman centurion who really had faith that we hadn't seen in much of anybody up until this moment, but he recognized something special about Jesus and really becomes the only one in this entire gospel, except for I guess Peter's confession, that

recognizes that he truly was the son of God. Yeah. And like I said, this was a quote when he said, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me from Psalm 22? And I think the punishment of our sin, what we deserve, him being human. And not only that, you just think it wasn't like he was here 33 years, you know, with God.

He's been here the whole time. So, and my point is, just think about, you know, if you lose, and I say lose, like if someone dies that you're, that's an acquaintance, you may think about it and say, okay, and if you lose a friend, there's a little more emotion here. Now, if you lose a family member, now you're shedding a few tears and, well, if you lose, you know, one of your kids, or, you know, one of your kids, your wife, well now it's done got real. And you say, well, why is that? It's because the amount of time that you've spent with these people. You've amassed quite the relationship. So when you think about Jesus and God and the Holy Spirit,

well, they've been together throughout eternity. And in this one moment, they're having to, based on their love and grace, which is offered to us, they're having to have this separation and this death and this punishment being cast on Jesus and I think that's why

he cried out like that. But I think when you read Psalm 22, it kind of gives you a picture because it's a picture of an execution and we know David didn't go through an execution. So why is it in the Bible? I mean, I think it was his prophecy of what Jesus would say.

And so he was fully aware. aware of what he was it wasn't like he was because a lot of people read this and they think oh well he's he's broken down here you know he's lost it and no it's just that's what it took for us to be saved is an eternal relationship having a moment of separation so our sins could be paid for and our righteousness could be given you know by him so um that's just all the time we got for this podcast, but there are a lot of implications, even from the Mark passage, and we haven't even gotten into some of the others. So we'll do a little bit of that in our overtime segment and then our next podcast as well. If you want to follow us over to overtime,

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