Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 615 | Phil & Jase Are Awestruck by Shane & Shane's Gifts for Worship — but Can They Hunt Ducks?

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

The guys are excited to welcome singer-songwriter duo Shane & Shane to the podcast. How did two guys named Shane meet each other and end up singing and songwriting together? And can they duck hunt? Phil can't believe how young he is in a photo hanging in the Duck Call Room — and now his sons have gray beards! Plus, Jase and Zach convince Shane & Shane to sing a song live in the room — and it's powerful! Listen to "You've Already Won" here: https://fanlink.to/YouveAlreadyWon. "The Blind" hits theaters this fall. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com Find out more about Shane & Shane, listen to their music, and learn about the Worship Initiative => https://www.shaneandshane.com/ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So were these singers, were they gun hands or were they a little bit? I got chastised a little bit, did you? Burles, you were making long shots on them. I said, 12, 13 ducks on long shots. That ain't bad. They were longer shots because the water is rising. Yep. It was cloudy and there was no wind. Yep.

but so they went to one of the hottest holes in america yesterday and they killed a few teal but they came with old jay said we started shooting greenhead mallards we did we did how many mallors are the ducks i think we had four or five dollars oh well good a night and one of them was so pretty they're going to put it on the wall we're going to put it on the wall two gumbos on that two gumbos worth gumbo gumbo gumbo gumbo that that's still on the iR he's still he's waiting to his back fixed up. When's that surgery tomorrow? Tomorrow.

There's more sitting on my butt in the last month that I've done in my life. Yeah. But I said, I got to get my backbone back in it before we. You got to get it in there. Yeah. Well, we got stuck today out. We left the duck mine. Yeah, I thought we were going to talk about your chastisement first.

Well, you brought that up. I think there was a duc. There was a lame duck in the. in the water and uh oh zach was going to do a little cleanup yeah and i allegedly allegedly since y'all were the guest i assumed after i saw how far away the pattern was to the duck i assumed it was one of our two guests so i then went on a shooting a quick tutorial on how to put your gun on the side of the gun and look they listened they sat there listened to the whole speech and then Shane said take your pick

Which Shane said Shane said We didn't shoot And Zach said Yeah that was me I'm having a eye dominant issue He said I mean I'm left eye dominant

But I'm trying to shoot right-handed I'm like well change something No I did change I'm in the process of changing But I was I was about nine Eight or nine we started hunting and I kept seeing him bleeding out the mouth, nose, and ears.

And you were so compassionate. Yeah, I bet you are. I said, I said, what's the problem? I said, how comes out the guns beating you? He said, well, I've got to look over here to see it. I said, uh-oh. I said, you're right-eyed dominant there. Well, I'm left.

I was left-eyed dominant shooting right-handed. Right-handed, but you're left-eyed dominant. He said, you've got to change. And he said, well, I'll never learn how to challenge you. you got to do it. Just start practicing on it. So he's a little kid, you know. But to this day, now he's, he's,

that's what you've got to do. It's not easy to do. It's not easy to do. I mean, it's been the challenge. I'm not going to brag on my shots. You shot well. No, I'll say that Jace had a shot today that was like threading a camel through the eye of a needle.

This bird was coming down hot. I mean, that bird was moving quick. And there was a hole about that big in the timber. and boom and then he pulled the he pulled the duck out and it was a strong it was kind of funny everybody raised up and I went no no no no and then I went boom because I didn't want him to shoot on my head because he was on my side I said no no no boom they're like yeah that's that's not a good way to do thing yeah well I don't no no boom that's what I did that's what he did I thought I got a little bit greedy but he I know he learned that from PR over here because I many times say all right

All right, y'all ready, you're ready, boom, boom, then all of a sudden you're like, what happened? No, I would either. It's actually boom, boom, boom, let's get them. Yeah, that was that. Boom, boom, comes forward. Then we broke down out there. We broke down on the way back, which is why we were late today. We were late and the motor would not run.

So you're sure was just not, ran out of gas? Well, you got to remember something. I'm a demolition man. If you need something broken? Broken, I'm your man. If you want to know some kind of, analysis on fixing something, not my department.

It just wouldn't run. I turned a key and it turned over, but it wouldn't fire. I got red, I got red, the Burley's getting red, red to go down and fix it. I did the basic.

He'll fix it in about 10 minutes. I did the basic things. I checked, we had gas. Man, that's number one. We had plenty of gas. With the raking the button willows, you told me you were going up there.

all them wires are go come together and then the little limbs keep doing like that it'll finally tear. Yeah, we were going through a thicket. So a limb could have unplugged the spark plug because I didn't really check that, which that would have been a good thing to check. We did look at the spark.

It was intact. No, we did look at that. It was definitely there. It was there. I think the spark plug is not. We couldn't get the dealie off it. Yeah, I think it's not firing. Yeah.

But, so what we did. did we had maybe a bad plan who there was four of us and then we had two other men who frequent the duck line they basically did kind of like a chariot they did they walked in waist deep of water how far would you say that was half a mile yeah maybe half a mile half a mile half a mile half a mile it's like some kind of new challenge like to be a show I could tell you know backwards challenges where you have to pull the boat you pull the boat yeah stuff like that that might be when we offered you know sub but they were like no and they had i think they might have had a small hole in their waiters at least chad did that was a waiter problem because then when

he took the waiters off i thought man the stress was more than he could bear yeah it was too much it was actually a leak in the waiter it was he had a slight but it was a good hunt though we uh yeah so we're and by the way if you're if you're watching you're probably like It doesn't look like our typical space. We're in our, I guess, our brother podcast room. I like calling them sister. You like the sister? I almost said sister, but I didn't want to.

No, I think it fits them better. Yeah, so we're in the duck call room right now. If you're not watching, that's where we're at in a different space because we couldn't fit around the table where we're at. We got our guest in, good friends of ours, Shane and Shane. Well, Shane, so good to be here. So good to be here. Been here.

Got the hospitality. Got the treatment, got some, hey, had some meatloaf. Miss Kay's meatloaf last night that your wife cooked and got the approval from Ms. Kay. She was right. We've been planning this. That's the only one that's duplicated it, Jason's wife. It was good. She did a great job on that.

It was amazing. There's a picture there of me 50 years ago. That's scary. That's how it looked a lot like me. You do. Fifty years ago. How was the back back in those days? Oh, look, I didn't even look.

I had a little old ragged shirt just without that. Probably didn't have any shoes on. I don't know what all that was about. Two years, I didn't wear shoes. Boy, your feet would get tough on the bottom, that's for sure. Calls is thick. You walk on calls. Oh, thorns and Ms. Kay used to pick my thorns out.

Yeah. I said, get that thorn back on the heel. She's thorn picking. So we need to take these. boys through the tour, you know, it was really amazing. We've kind of redone our tour here and added to it. And there's a lot of stuff in the movie and some other stuff. But it's pretty amazing.

I mean, there's some pictures here. Some of, that there's, I've never seen. Yeah, the other night's the first time I'd ever been through it. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I'm not sure why. We've got some of the movie set in there, in the tour now. Is this movie ever going to come out? Or is it coming?

Oh, it is. It is coming. September of this year. That's pretty. pre-conversion up to a point. So how much do you show after conversion? Here's the good news. In this film, you are totally redeemed.

You mean? We take it through pretty much your redemption story, and then I don't want to give the film away, but you could also go to theblindmovie.com and put your email in. Here's my blog. Because the pre-conversion is just embarrassing. is the only word I can come up.

Well, Phil, you're a trooper to let the Lord. But you know, everybody's, if you peel back every rotten, filthy thing they've ever done before they're converted, it's pretty tough. Well, it's mandatory, Phil. You must be a sinner. Yeah, that's right. You appreciate Jesus.

So, uh, you know. Well, it's just like my sermon Sunday, Dad. I mean, I showed Peter as he was, but to really appreciate who he became, knowing who he was and what he struggled with makes it best. I mean, if you didn't know a little bit about Saul before he got to that road to Damascus, you wouldn't really appreciate who Paul became. He was a murderous killer.

Oh, exactly. And he said the worst of sinners. That's right. Yeah. So, I mean, you got. It made me feel better when I read about what the Apostle Paul had been up to leading up to his conversion. I mean, it made me feel better. I don't get out of that.

That old guy, a murderer beating, having people stoned to death with little children. I said, you're talking about a sorry, lowdown. I didn't do that. you know we got we got a drunken stupor for about 10 years I think we yeah but you came to Jesus and

we got together last night as a family and watched I should I've only shared a few clips of you guys right so I'm kind of dripping it in so we watched the first time we got together I was not prepared for that but I was more prepared last night I hope you got my response to the gospel

when I know Bill Smith told me about it Phil wants an EP credit on this. Apparently, we're getting some script work done right now. After I read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, the last two chapters in each one of them, Jesus said, I'm going to go up to Jerulam, going to die, be buried, right. Well, when I finally heard that from Smith, I said, that sounds too good to be true. I thought it was too good for me. Yeah.

And he said, it is too good for all of us. He said, but it is true. Yeah. You'll forget. That was a good response, though, Phil. I mean, I remember thinking a similar thought, you know, when it hit me. Yeah, I thought, this seems, I mean, just free, forgiveness, grace, and promised eternal life forever. This seems too good to be true.

I said, I've got to double check you there. Dude, the fellow that was still Bill Smith that was sharing it with me. I said, I got to double check it to see if it's just too. Well, I did. And I said, get down here the next day. I said, get down here and carry me through some water. And I said, don't wreck the vehicle. That was my exact words.

Don't have a wreck on your way down here. He doesn't say goodbye. So he just hangs up abruptly. That's his love language. He's grown from that. No, you guys says, yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah.

That means the conversation. That's his. There's no response. You get four yups. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, but we got together, watched the, you guys got to see a clip. So what did y'all, what did you guys think? I thought, man, it looked amazing.

And the scene that I saw was, I mean, I got a little misty. I mean, it was. It's pretty powerful. It's powerful, man. You know, I mean, like, maybe I, you know, I have four daughters, three daughters and a wife, and maybe some of that estrogen got on me. But I, yeah.

Because y'all basically do women's ministry, right? We do. We have a lot of girls. But, man, no, but seriously, I think the testimony of the believer in the journey that we go on, it resonates in the heart in a way that you're like, okay. Yeah. I can understand that because we all have. Now my son's gray beards.

That's how long it took. they went from little kids. You saw a little bit when they were little kids. They went from there. I mean, now look at them, graybears, strong in the faith. Man, life's full of twists and turns. And it's quick.

Shane B, what did he tell you last night? What Phil tell you? It's looming. The resurrection. Resurrection is looming. That's what he said. If I ever heard another human being use that word, looming.

No, he did. And it was a good, I'll tell you that was a great reminder. Can you use that in a sentence? It was. Well, we take a break. Yeah, let's take a break. I will say that, so we brought these guys in who we met several years ago at an event and you guys were performing.

I didn't know that at the time and we're just talking. I thought you were just a random guy that we're talking about hunting. We just hit it off. And so we should hook up and do a hunt sometime. And then you guys got on stage and performed. And I was like, wow, if I'd have known that. Well, you would have known that what? I don't know.

What? He would have been more impressed. I don't ask for more. I mean, I don't know. No, we got to have yourself. It's out. So here we are. So here we are.

Three years later. Three years later, we made it happen. Hey, when we make our mind up, we're going to make it happen. That is it. We were talking about, man, someday we got to get in the woods together. Yeah. And today was the day. We did it.

I'm so happy because y'all went to a hot hole yesterday. and it just, I mean, that just did me some joy. Our hole is not a great hole. The reason we had all these fantastical videos is because we hunted every day. If you sit there every day, at some point when they come in, you get them. So today, I thought it was good.

But I thought y'all sang last night. And, you know, at your house. At my house. Yes. And so then I was wondering, Why has Zach not brought you here before? I'm not easily impressed. I'm a tough.

I'm sitting in the crowd. I'm just not easily impressed. The only drinks out of glasses that are half empty. Someone did call you a fun sucker. I don't know who did that. It might have been another guy that they call Jay. Oh, yeah. He's still better.

over me. I told you all that story today. I was like, he's got some bitterness that he's got to deal with because we had a problem, and I think we talked about this on an earlier podcast, there was a riff, which, you know, we're all following the Lord.

There's very few riffs, but there, a rift developed over equipment involved in deer hunting versus duck hunting. And it was a pretty good riff. So when I was pushed, when trying to get seven men to a duck blind in two rigs that hold four people. And a six-seater is reserved for deer hunters. I just lost it.

The line had been crossed. We called him up, and I think I said, I'm not going to take duck hunting advice from a deer manager. And as he went to speak, because my son was holding the... the phone. I said, no, the conversation's over. Which was rude. That was very rude. But I thought we'd patch that up, but if he's still claiming I'm a sucking

out of the fun, all the fun out of that, maybe he's still got some bitterness. Yeah. I think a little bit. I think you guys need to go on a walk this afternoon. All right. Well, Jason makes life's one thing, but dad, those two and the other. through the blind through the ears. You used to call them what,

mutton Jeff or whatever. I mean, sometimes they start singing the blues on each other. So it's not like... Well, I will defend Jay in this. The reason we have the reputation is, is because we're two of the only people on the planet that will say no to our family.

So Sa is pretty much, he's the champion of this leading the, saying we're negative because I was not used to somebody saying no we're not doing that and he's like you're not in a very good mood no I'm just disagreeing with you

I'm in a great mood so that's this is where this reputation developed so when you have a lot of yes men around you and you have an occasional no that doesn't it just doesn't resonate well but it makes the compliment

more it's real like what you say that you were impressed, that's not a platitude. He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say it. It's more valuable. I mean, look, y'all have a new song.

Look, I feel like I'm your manager now. So they're like, hey, we got a song. We got a song we're tinkering with, you know, and I was thinking, okay, here we go, you know. But we just met. We ate meat low. I thought there's no way you can sing that well after eating that much meatlo. It was a lot. That was a lot of meatloaf issues before with some of our guests.

We have. Look, there's some stories, but y'all seem to have, you know, held up well post meatloaf. Some of our longtime listeners will know that. I mean, I had a buddy that took him a week to get over it. Really? It really wasn't the meatloaf. It was the sheer volume of intake. Yeah, it was a two-month period of half of one of those meatloaf.

Too much of a good thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so you saw, she had three last night. My buddy, he's built like a freight train. He ate half one of those. Oh, man. I would say less than five minutes. We've been out duck hunting all day.

That's quick. We skipped lunch and he just over. So it was a rough couple days. It was. It took him a while. His dad would say it led to some bowel mischief. Ain't no mischief. That's the quote.

That's the term. That's the term. Something's going on. The lower bowel. Yeah. Issues. We've had, we've had extensive conversations on, which is bizarre on this podcast about like bowel movements. Yeah.

But, you know, you get out in the web. Yeah, we call that. Maddie, plug your ears. You don't need to. Yeah, we call that a Co. Brown where I'm from. Yeah. Well, it's part of life. And I don't know why people, you know, won't embrace it, you know.

But back to the. Anyway, we're eating meatlo. Yeah. And, you know, there's a lot going on. I mean, you're working on the movie. We've been busy filming our little show, the treasure hunting show. And I saw a sneak peek of the first episode. It actually made me tear up.

And that's as far as I go with that. And so, and we have our little one that we've had almost a year. And it's been a tough year. And so when y'all were like, we're tinkering on this song. Y'all don't know what's been going on. And man, y'all started singing. And I was like, did, did Zach organize this? Did he, did he know my current condition and find these people who came up with this song?

It just like hit me between my eyes. And my wife, too. My wife's a very tough woman. And she was very teary-eyed last night. It was awesome. Because usually when you hear a song you've never heard before, I told you all this. I don't know who came up with this, but I believe it. It usually takes you a few times to kind of get the feel for it.

I appreciate it. that this was love at first first here i mean it was it was awesome so i really think it's going to do well because look most people and the others are probably in denial are going through some kind of battle i mean ephesian six is clear we were talking about that on the way up here and uh ephesian six is pretty clear that our our battle's not against flesh and blood but it's a spiritual battle you know against forces of evil in the heavenly realms and things we don't necessarily see. And so, I don't know, it was so encouraging. Well, this was the purpose of the trip.

Everything else is great. Extra. Yeah, because you guys have, I mean, you get on Spotify, I mean, there's, how many songs, I don't know how many songs you guys have done, but we got a lot. A lot. You guys have a lot of music out there over the last 20 years. So when you said to me, Shane B, when you said that this may be one of the most,

So you said this may be the most important song we've done in our career. Like I was like, that is when I leaned in. Because if you've done as much work as you guys have done in this space, that's meaningful. Talk a little bit about why you say that. I think that's important. The reason why I say that is it's all on the Lord. It's, you know, we, this song happened not too long after, after the Ukrainian war started.

And I was at an event. I got to, we got to stream in some pastors and just hear stories of God's work, but also just like, can you all, can you pray for us? This is what it looks like. Our families are leaving. Literally, we can't get food to them. And just the church in the Ukraine.

And right at that same time, a buddy of mine sent me a couple lines of this chorus. and one of the lines says, I don't know what you're doing, Lord, but I do know what you've done, and I'm fighting a battle that you've already won. Like you defeated death and sin and hell on the cross for me, and I'm going to be okay. And so I took that, and I was right in the middle of just experiencing just the lament of this war and just wrote some man i just god i want to go to your word and find handholds um like the second verse says uh there's mercy in the waiting manna for today but some of these folks

their their manna for today ran out like their literal mana so there's mercy in the waiting mana for today but when it's gone i know you're not you are my hope and stay and so it just clinging to Jesus in the trouble. And then there's a big section of this song that just declares that we know how the story ends. It ends really great. For anyone... I said last night it's bright.

Yeah. Yeah. He said our future is very bright. Do you all have musicians that play with you? Like a band? We do. We do. Yeah.

No, they just went off the cuff last night and just bam. I mean, it was like skip the handshake right into the soul. Which is one thing we love about worship. Let's take another break. Well, I thought of that, you know, we've been studying Mark and we're at the cross. And we've been there for a couple of sessions because it's just so, I mean, this is it. This is what stopped us all in our tracks. But, you know, something I had never noticed until I kind of went in with my wife.

And we were sharing some of our experience of being worship, I was more teaching the idea and concepts of worship, and she was doing the singing. But it led me down just to pursue down a love for contemporary, you know, Christian music. And I don't know. It's kind of like Christian movies. I always thought they were cheesy, and so I just never would watch them. And so when I was first introduced to it, you know, years ago,

I just thought, that's kind of cheesy for me. But, boy, I should have kept up with it, because now there's some fantastic songs that are just, you're having this clarity while you're driving down the road, you know, and then you're looking around and people are noticing you, you know, you're like, oh yeah, this is good, my future's bright, you know. But I need that. I mean, even last night I was a kid now, I just thought,

man, this is the way the Lord works. He brings other people and, you know, salt and light. So are they going to speak into these mics today? and do their song I knew you were going to ask them to sing I don't know I'll let them make that decision yeah we need to do that

I know we got a guitar over here because I told Al to bring it Al brought it I brought the guitar Not his guitar man Well I wanted to make this point I was trying to finish a point I started chasing a rabbit

By the way this is our podcast Just so you know It's all chasing a rabbit It should be called Not unashamed but rabbit chasing When I was introduced to how meaningful worship it, you know, because you're just, you know, you're praising God. And, you know, in those real moments, it's impossible to do anything wrong. I mean, it's just such a booster for the soul and a, you know, a reminder for the heart.

And so I've had a lot of those moments, just especially in the past few years that I think back to, you know, one with my daughter, we went to Nashville. I was telling you he was going to some worship conference. And I mean, I will, I'll hum those songs and I have those pictures in my mind of us being together. But it always reminds me of a verse I've never noticed before till we went through Mark. You know, right after Jesus, you know, introduced this new supper that they would take with his disciples. And this is right before all his disciples fall away, the Gessimini moment, Judas betraying him, and he's arrested, but after they have this supper together, this is Mark 1426, it said when they had sung a hymn,

they went out to the Mount of Olives. And I thought, don't you know that none of these guys knew what were fixing to happen? It all went crazy, from the denial to the scattered, to the just grief to thinking, what have we done, to all of a sudden a realization that this is the son of God and he can come back from the dead. Don't you know they went back to that moment when they were gathered around that table? And he was, look, this is my body.

This is my blood. And that worship moment. And I think that's why it's in here. Because you think, well, it wasn't as much of a catalyst then, but sometimes that's what we need in that time. And then when we go back to it, I just think it makes bigger and more powerful, more inspiring worship. You know, it's such a cool little verse that nobody ever talks about.

But when you imagine those guys in a room, you know, singing a song together. I think, and my theory always has been, and this makes people uncomfortable when you say God needs something. But I think Jesus needed that moment. I mean, he knew his face. And we know what's going to happen in the garden, the agonizing over this whole situation. I think he needed that song. He needed that brotherhood. He needed that moment just to say, all right, let me get ready.

It's amazing thought, Al, because it's just like when he went to pray and they couldn't stay awake. Right. You know, and I think in here he needed that, and their minds were probably a million miles away. There's a, uh, Colossians 316 says, may the word of Christ dwell richly in you as you teach one another and encourage one another through Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. And so I just imagine those are, I mean, that's Christ's word. And I just imagine God's word dwelling, you know, as he says, singing as they're singing that hymn that that's happening that god's word was dwelling richly in them including jesus i mean when he was tempted right he's quoting god's word i mean like and when you're singing it together there's a there's a promise there in in ephesians 316 yeah that the word

dwells richly yeah and you guys have done like i don't i don't want to get off this song because i want you guys to sing it in a second but but the other stuff you guys have worked on i mean you've got a of singing through the Psalms, which is very powerful, right? I mean, that's some of the stuff y'all have done there. I remember, I mean, we were together at an event, and they were singing Psalms 90, and teach me Lord a number of my days, and we were just kind of lost in worship, and one of the guys in the audience, like died right there. It was like this pretty incredible moment.

I mean, it was scary, but it was also like this, you know, you're singing through these, and the way you guys have arranged them, It's for me, there's several of those that have ministered to me throughout, you know, throughout the last couple of years and hard times. Yeah, dad was talking about that song a couple of podcasts ago. And we were remarking that, you know, Moses wrote that, you know, 3,500 years ago. That's right. And yet he's just spot on into where we are and who we are to this very day. Yeah.

And dad was saying, you know, 70, 80, if you have the strength. and he's oscillating in that place in his life. But we just marveled at that the Spirit of the Living God has been active throughout all those thousands of years of human history, Jewish history, and yet it's so spot on. It's the same spirit that guides us and leads us today. And so that's why you can be moved by things that were written thousands of years ago, and yet just fresh and new, just because the Holy Spirit's still working. Now he's working through you guys and other people to bless, which is powerful.

And that's that we I mean we talk about it on the road a lot, but at Psalm 90 is so powerful. And because Moses kind of ends that Psalm with two prayers, you know, like how long, oh Lord, you know. I mean, we know on this side of history that he answered Moses's prayer. That's right. And he came and he gave provision for us. But there's also a second prayer that he says, will you satisfy in the morning with your steadfast love? You know, and so it's kind of like it ends in such a sweet way that there is a provision. that the Lord could satisfy our hearts.

And just like your story, just like all of our stories, our hearts, we've fed them the things of the world that it never satisfied until we were, eternity was placed in there. The Holy Spirit of God was placed in there. And it did something that nothing else could do. And I think that's the testimony that we all share here. And we want everybody to share in that. because it's the only place to find life.

It's the only place to find hope. It's the only way to be satisfied. And we're all looking for satisfaction. That's right. You know, but there's only one place. I love it in a time thing because we deal with that so much. All right, we're going to take a break. We come out of the other side of the break.

You guys don't sing for it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I love it. Let's take a break. So we talked earlier about if you are a child of God, if you've trusted in God's love for you in the person of Jesus Christ, than your future is super bright.

It looks really good. And I'm not talking about your circumstance, like 30 minutes from now, because there's a good chance if you're listening that you might be in the hardest circumstance of your life. I'm talking about your forever circumstance is real bright,

and we're going to sing about it and be reminded that we know how the story ends. And so I'm just going to read a little snippet before we sing out of Revelation 21 of a part of this future that is worth singing and thinking on today. So this is Revelation 21. Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away and the sea was no more.

And I saw a holy city, a new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from before the throne saying, Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God, and he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more. Neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away. Amen. Amen. Amen to that.

It is real bright. Last darkness Hope that's in the blood There's future grace That's mine today That Jesus Christ has won So I can face tomorrow For tomorrow's in your hands

All I need You will provide Just like you always like Because I'm fighting about mercy in the winter for today And when it's gone I know you're not You are my hope and stay

The sea is raging Your spirit is my He'll fix my eyes on Jesus Christ. I'll say that it is well. Oh, I know that it is well. Come on. The story. I want to sing along.

I know how the story is. How does some worship up in here? Up in here. The last moment. Let's take another break, our last break. Yeah, that needed a break after that. Yeah. Oh, my good.

That was so awesome. That makes me think of one of my favorite authors wrote a book, Francis Schaefer, called The Finished Work of Christ. It's basically a commentary on the book of Romans, but when you hear that phrase, the finished work of Christ, you guys have put that into a song. I mean, it's finished.

Yeah. But one of the lines that touched me, and you mentioned it before you sang was the Manna line, because I love the study. I've taught Moses in his life so many times. And, you know, he kind of had those three segments of his life. With the first 40 years, he's in Pharaoh's house. He's learning how to have warfare and learning the best of everything.

And then he thinks he's ready to lead, but nobody will follow him. And so then he goes and spends 40 years in a desert with some sheep. And now he can't even put two words together and speak. and God shows up in a bush and says, now it's time. And so in the last 40 years, finally he's where God needs him to be. And he goes and he leads the people out. But I love the concept because it reminds me, I put it in our family, like dad at this moment where he becomes a Christian,

then he knows what he wants to do. But instead of just us going right into it, it's like, oh, no, no, I've got a little 30-year humility training plan for you where you're going to have to do manna in the form of fish to be ready. for when I want to push you on a big stage. And so I've related that even to us and the idea that you had to trust that God was going to provide.

And that's what touched me about that line of the song. Because I thought about when you're in the battle and it's day to day, you are having to be reminded. You went. I think he probably went back to when God is speaking to you

through a bush that won't burn up, whatever's fixed to happen is going to end well for you. If you surrender to him. That's right. Yeah, you might want to take the sandals off here because something is happening. This will end well for me. That's right.

I feel inadequate. I'm not a great speaker. I mean, all the things he probably said. There's a lot of griping. There's a lot of grumbling. I'm sure I'm positive. He went back to that moment. Right.

And thought, he's a powerful being. I mean, when he was hiding his face in that rock, he was probably like, I'm on do what this guy says. Exactly. Whatever he says. Whatever he says. says, I'm going to stick my face in here. Who are you? And he said, I am who I am.

Yeah. I am who I am. I am who I am. That's right. That's right. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. And ministry, you know, is, is, it's tough. I mean, you guys are involved like we are. You just, you're in a different facet of it. But it's the same. It's people. It's, you know, grumblers and complainers and retired a manna. Can we get some meat? You know, it's, it's, that's it. And so anybody's engaged with people realizes you have to have these big picture moments. That's what I love about the song. The song is the big picture. I love this song. I think this song is going to be like one of those anthems for

this time too. I think that, I mean, I read a lot of the emails and correspondence that we get just from our fans and people that watch the show. And I'm telling you, I think that this song's going to resonate with Unashamed Nation. I read about, there's a lot of people going through a lot of release. tough stop. That's right. It's just part of the human condition. And I think that's why God put this song on you guys on your heart.

We're promised in this world that we will have trouble. But take heart because we know something, you know. He is overcome it. You know, he is overcome it. And with him, we are what more than overcomers. If we stay in the spirit, if we stay with him, it's going to be okay. It will be bright, you know. You know, so that's true.

We'll put a, we're going to put a link. If you guys give us a link, we'll give you a link. Give us a link. We'll put it in the description. So for our audience, you guys can click on it. It'll take you to somewhere where you can hear this song. I'm sure it's Spotify. Yeah, it's on Spotify.

YouTube. I was curious how you all got together. Because you're both named Shane. We're both named Shane. You'll probably tell this story a thousand times. No, but it's good. I was asking last night, I was like, no, are y'all brothers, cousins? And you're like, we're buddies.

Yeah. Buddies. Man, God can do whatever he wants with whoever he wants. That's enough for me. You know what I mean? Let's just go. Up to the song. Next question. Next question.

I transferred to Texas A&M University my junior year. I was a business major. No business singing or doing ministry. new believer, grew up Catholic, and heard the gospel in high school. And I had that moment that you guys were talking about earlier, where I just, I couldn't figure. Yeah, it's too good to be true. In fact, my dad was kind of a John Wayne sort of West Coast gold digging cowboy type figure. I know someone like that. Yeah. Yeah. And who came to Christ when he was 65. And it's funny you said too good to be true because my dad only prayed out loud once.

Wow. After he came to Christ. And that was his prayer. He prayed that exact thing. Over dinner, whole family, dad wants to pray, this is too good to be true. Amen. And so, yeah. I did. I did have a moment.

I did have a moment. I'm like, that is, that sounds familiar. Where have I heard that before? Anyway, so I'm at Texas A&M. I do know four chords and I do have a guitar that used to be a prop. You got to be careful. I got to be careful on the podcast because I don't want to be politically incorrect. Yeah, that'll be hit out on here.

Yeah, that can wreck everything we built. I'll just, I'll just keep it out of prop. And I took the guitar when I became a believer. because my youth pastor at the time, he just plunk GCD and E minor, you know, on the acoustic guitar. And I just took those chords and sang the same 25 songs over and over again.

And landed at Texas A&M, my junior year, going to school, business major, leading worship on Saturday nights at 9 o'clock every Saturday night. And God was doing something, and he's still doing something there. There would be hundreds of people in our apartment. People would think it was a party because it's Saturday night at 9, 10 o'clock, and we would turn off all the lights, and we would just sing out and pray. Nobody even heard me.

I mean, I just had to start something, and it was just like, wah! It was a party. It was a party. We saw some people come to Christ that came to a party. Yeah. And my roommates were putting on this concert, and like I said, God was just doing something. So there was just, people were getting saved like crazy. There was a Bible study that was starting called Breakaway. So if you put on something for believers on this campus, there was going to be 6,000 people there. And so they asked me to play at this outdoor concert that they were putting on. This was like the second time they did it. And I was a shy kid. I mean, I just, that terrified me. That thought terrified me. Six thousand people? Yeah. I mean, I'd never sang into a mic. I'd never written a song.

I had no grid for anything. I knew the Lord, but I moved a lot, so I wasn't disciples. I was flopping around and just going, what am I doing? What am I going to do? So anyway, I said yes, and I didn't have a guitar that plugged in, so they knew a guy down the street. And I went down there, and I'm like, can I borrow your guitar? And he's like, yes, you can. What's your name?

I was like, my name's Shane. He's like, my name's shine. And anyway, I borrowed his guitar and played the, played this deal, dropped out of, I mean, there was about a thousand miracles that had happened involved in all of that because I was brain dead. And God just, he just lined up a lot of things that needed to happen in order for me to do that. And then two months later, I dropped out of school and, you know, continued to sing about him.

And I didn't know what to sing. So that's why, like literally, I didn't know, I didn't know Christian, I didn't know Christian music. I didn't know music. Like my dad, I knew Gave Lampo Yero La Pita Que Masqueiro, that's a song that my dad would sing.

So I knew what, I pretty much knew a song in Spanish and 25 worship songs. No, he knew, you knew Kitty Rogers the gambler too. I knew the gambler. I've heard a good one then I didn't. I did.

I did. I knew the gambler. I'd memorize that song. So y'all just kind of mirror each. I think the Lord brought each other together. And then y'all all had daughters. So your lives are kind of mirroring each other. Yeah. Yeah. Shane, well, Shane, when I borrowed his guitar, he wasn't a believer. No, no yet.

He was in a bar band. I heard his story this. Wow. We were on the way of the duck line. Yep. Look, we're out of time, unfortunately. Man, that went fast. But can we hear a little more? Can we stay with us for our overtime? Yeah, let's do it. O-T. And then we'll tell a little bit of your story. That's great. Oh, it's awesome. And what you guys are doing now. So if you want to follow a us over overtime and you do. BlazTV.com slash Unashamed is where you go to get that as well as all of Blaze's content. So thank you, Shane and Shane. If you guys coming over in the overtime, we'll hear a little more of their story. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube and be sure to click that little bell

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