Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 632 | 'Duck Dynasty' Fame Was Too Much for Jase & His Plan for the Chinese Spy Balloon Problem

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

A debate about the best Western movie ever made leads Phil and Jase to reminisce about their time on "Duck Dynasty" and their experience with “Hollywood.” Jase thinks he’s got a solution to all the “spy balloon” drama, and Al is confronted at church by a former "Duck Dynasty" filming voyeur with something to say. The guys use the Bible to navigate how they should respond to insults and the issues the world faces in this day and age. Plus, Phil rejects all -isms except for two!  In this episode: 1 Peter 3, verses 8-9; Romans 6, verse 11; Isaiah 8, verses 11-14 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right, welcome back to Unashame. We still got no Zach. He's somewhere over, somewhere in the Fruited Plains being a movie mogul, as far as we know. We don't need to. He's in L.A., so, you know, give him a, he may need to be in our prayer. That's right. They're swimming with the sharks, I guess. The Lord works in strange. I mean, even with us, with our show, you know, we basically held hands with Hollywood to try to come up with a show that depicted Christ-like principles, even though it wasn't a show about Jesus. It was just, we're spirit-filled people.

They're filming us. And so, you know, a lot of the problems we had is they were trying to get us to leave our spirit-filled qualities. and just do a show. And we were like, well, it doesn't work that way. Yeah. Because they see the world in compartment. So they're thinking, yeah, we'll just step out of that and get into this world. But to God's credit, we didn't budge on that, which is maybe one of the reasons, you know, success happens.

That's right. So we that, so Zach, we send it since he's the, I guess he's the smarter. of our little troop here. We sent him out to deal with that part of the world. Well, and I did bring up that CS Lewis movie last podcast, because I do think the movie about Phil does mirror that in that you see very few movies, well, that are Christ-based anyway,

but you see very few religious movies that just deal with before they became a Christian. Right. So that's tricky because obviously that is not rated G. Yeah, because it's gritty and real, which is just. And I noticed that that movie, the C.S. Litt's movie was rated PG-13. Yeah, for the same reason, brother. Yeah.

Whether, yeah, and he was in the war to that. They had a few wars. But, you know, I think, and, you know, there's been several movies that have kind of people look as kind of watershed movies. But I think the passion, which has now been, you know, a long time, but that really was the watershed move. That moves rated R, and you know what it needed to be, it has to be. When you read the end of the Gospels, Dad, your famous thing, read the last two chapters of the gospel, you know what that's rated R?

What they did to Jesus is rated R. Yes. It's brutal. Well, and you read the Old Testament, it's rated R. Right at R. There's no doubt about it. So I know that offends people, when you say that way, because that's a man-made ray. But I'm saying by that standard, it's brutal.

I mean, it's a brutal. Well, it was funny, we were going to do a top 10 westerns. I've got it right here. Well, I think, now look, it should be, we shouldn't even read it. I don't want to give them credit. But we don't know exactly where it came from. It doesn't matter. They, you can't, here's my, we're having an argument here, and arguments are fun.

You can't have a top 10 westerns by whomever. Whomever. if you leave out the greatest western ever which i also think it was rated r but you can watch the tv version it's not even on the list al so this list should be burned we'll burn it should not be given we'll burn it but i've got to read don't do it it it doesn't have the outlaw josie wells on it's not on there which is the first thing i look for when i got it but we'll see this has no bearing they have lost all credibility. So according to some people,

this is the top 10 Westerns ever make. Number 10, 310 to Yuma, which is interesting. They have the 2007 version, which was the remake with Russell Crow. But the original had Yule Brenner. Do you remember that?

The original favorite. Yeah, but I love that maybe. I love the Russell Crow. I thought the remake was actually better than the original. Did you? Yeah. Yeah, that was good.

And the other little, guy what's his name the little short little actor he was really good into um the magnificent seven loved it loved the remake better and they had the original thenzel washington yeah i like the and chris pratt was in the remake too i like the remake better it's good a fistful of dollars yeah 64 that was a eastwood that was you got the fistful of dollars and you don't have outlawed josey wells high noon 1952 haven't seen that i don't remember Who'd that? I don't either. The Wow Bunch, 1969. Butch cast in the Sundance Kid, also 69. I mean, was that really a Western? I guess it was. It was. Yeah. Django Unchained.

I haven't seen it. 2012. I've seen it. It's, I don't know. Unforgiven. Yeah, that was good. Excellent. That was Eastwood's kind of finale, his swan saw. Once Upon a Time in the West, number two. No, I agree with that. That's a great one. That was... Poundrele, Pounder. And...

Harmonica. Charles Bronson. It's real slow. Look, Missy almost, that came up on the little whatever. And I said, one of the greatest movies ever. She said, let's watch it. I said, you're not going to like this movie. She said, no, I like what.

I mean, I said, babe, you are not... It's really slow. It is a slow. It's an awesome. movie but she she got mad at me because i said i know she's going to get 30 minutes into it what's the harmonica why is he born why why is he why is he on the harmonica wait for it but you got to wait two and a half hours for it even the fly scene is long but it's so worth it oh i love it it's awesome oh bug eyes that you want to eris borden i yeah when he caught that fly

Because this is the kind of stuff we do in a duck blind, stuff like that. And, you know, he's looking at that, trying to see if that fly, he was shaking that barrel to see if that fly. And then he would smile, you know. Was that just an Italian? I don't want to go in the barrel. He'd listening to him. Then it stopped.

Yeah. He's looking. So they had that as number two. The water dripping on the hat. The good, the bad, and the ugly is number one. Well, I would put that in the top five, obviously. Which again... But you left out two movies that is the travesty.

We'll throw that away since that was... Throw it away because you left out the Lord Josie Well, and they should have had one of Phil's favorites, Valdez. Valdez is coming. Yeah. I have used the line in that movie hundreds of times in various places from Walmart to gas station stick. conflicts and, you know, events I've done that, you know, I'm like $200 for the family.

You know, it's a standard price that, which he was asking for $100. I mean, they had done something wrong. They killed this woman's husband. I don't want to give away the whole movie. But since she was not a person, you know, it's really about, you know, racism and she was just an Indian woman and nobody cared for. But he was like, he was an ex-lawman and he was like, this is just not right. You made a mistake and everybody just went, oops, and swept it under the rug.

And he's like, you should pay this, at least do something for your crime. There should be payment here. And so he was trying to get $200. for the injustice that it happened to her. That's what the whole movie is about. Oh, yeah. So I know. They finally got him hemmed up and then the standoff, you know.

Don't give away the whole movie for it, because it's good. It is good. Tombstone is another one that probably should have been on the list. It should be just because of the lines that are in it. In terms of writing and lines and some of the performances were. I mean, it was a little cheesy, but it was a little over the top. I mean, these more realistic. ones, or I'd say

realistic, just the kind of the spaghetti Western time. I mean, I just like once born time in the West and the good, bad, and the ugly, it's just hard to top that. I don't know. The camera work and the music and it was just on another level. Yeah. And but, but, you know,

you made a good point. They were long and they were, they were kind of slow. They were tied together with scenes, you know, like, well, it's what's not happening in movies today. And I do think that's why the Chosen is so good, is that you get lost in it.

Even though they're not that long, but it's like if you can watch three episodes back to Bow, I watched three episodes last night. And Missy watches, she watches episodes every week, the same once she goes back and she, because she gets lost in it. And through her faith,

it's making, you know, what's her faith is more realistic. in an emotional way, in a connecting way. So I think that's why it's so good. Yeah. Of course, they have, you know, a budget and the time and without any kind of force over them that is neglecting what they can do.

Right. So, and that's why movies used to be made. Now they just spit them out. They're just little, I mean, it's hard to find a good movie anymore. It's horrible. We're running out of good actors. Well, I think they no longer go to locations. It was going back to the 60s.

That the last 40, 50 years they're going in. They pretty well had it down. Well, you have good actors. They just, they do it at a, they don't go to locations anymore. Yeah. I mean, those movies we just talked about, they went all over the place, making it look realistic. They just have a set and they go in there and spit it out and they film it in a couple months,

edit it. Well, and then like this tragedy that happened to this Alec Baldwin film. all this happened because they were trying to do it cheap and fast. And so they hired people, obviously, that weren't up to standard. And, you know, tragedy strikes. That was dumb. Yeah, you have these terrible things that happened. So, I mean, they were trying to do a Western there.

But you saw they were doing it. They were trying to create the whole thing, this one little bitty place. And, you know, didn't have quality people there either. I mean, look, I'm doing currently a show, you know, the treasure hunting show. And y'all have been, you know, our listeners have been instrumental. and making, you know, season one of success, and we're working on season two. We're getting toward the end of filming season two.

But it's challenging. Unashamed Nation is the reason there is the show. It never would have happened. Y'all, y'all are doing it. And I'm really, you know, not regretting it, but I'm working my rear off for y'all. Because I'm going to tell you. It's your fault.

Unashamed Nation. The reason it's so challenging is because we are going to these different locations. And look, we're, we see. send, you know, a shout. It'll be a very interesting show if you're just doing the whole thing in your backyard, so it's going to get old. But on paper, you think, well, this is easier. You're going down there.

When you go to a location where other people are involved on a weekly basis, you know, it's just a series of challenges because you never really know until you get there. And, you know, we're trying to find stuff in the ground. And whatever we find, we find, it's really challenging. It's not the cheap, easy way to do it. It's, we're doing it the hard. way so maybe there is something to that translating to good tv you know right so well and look you you you go into it like any production with ideas and here's what you want to accomplish but in the case

of a show like your show some things are happening in real time that you didn't plan on and so then you got to run that thread out that's the way it's where it's it's it's it's really challenging i mean like because some places we go we think it's going to be a slam dunk we're just going to be finding all these treasures and it's never discovered. Then you get there and you're like, what happened? Either somebody's been here before or so then what you do? Well, you pivot.

And there's been some locations. We went and we left. We just said, no. It didn't pan out. There's nothing here. I'm really looking forward to watching the episode I was on and not just because I'm on it, but because of all the things that happened that I wasn't involved in, just because it's really interesting.

Yeah, I think that was one of the better. There was a lot of things. What's weird about that is that was kind of one we had a plan on. Yeah, a lot of interesting thing. And a lot of things happened that were not planned, and you saw how it happens. All of a sudden, we just went with it. This became the story. I know.

I'm excited to see that on the screen. So we appreciate your hard work days. I'm glad we get to work around it. Let's take a break. So we've expanded our staff. little bit so we've since sack is not here um we've come up with a new a new segment jays when zach normally comes up with a big word i'm glad y'all consulted me about the new segment yeah we just first time i'm hearing it i know we're going to throw this no this is the new segment is called jace's

word of the week jace's word of the week you have a word i have a word i have a word well here's my question of our crack staff has come up if it's my word for the week wouldn't i be the one coming up with the no. This word will be given to you and then you can decide whether you want to use it. I'm not sure I like this arrangement. And normally we've been doing this naturally because Zach will come up with your word of the week. But now one of our staffs do it. So here's the word. Okay. Anti-nomianism. Anti- Can you use it in a sentence? I can. So. Anti-what? Antinomianism.

Nomianism. Never heard of the word. Are there any other? I've been on the earth. 76 years. Are there any other? Do you want me to define it or are using the sentence? Are there any other pronunciations of the word? No, this is it. You've never figured out why I do this. This is a reference to the spelling bee that happens every year.

Yeah, I know. I get it. So here's, here with this word, here's it used in a sentence. In his 19, no, excuse me, in his 1539 book, Luther contrasts anti-nomianism with the true gospel stressing that law is good and drives us to Christ and to daily repentance. So that's it in the sentence. That is true and that is good because we can't keep the law. But I think we need to simplify that.

All right, here's the definition. It's a noun, anti-nominism. It's a theology. It's the belief that Christians by virtue of divine grace are freed, not only from biblical law and church prescribed behavioral norms, but also from all moral law. The problem I have with these scholars and these people that come over these words is that the definition doesn't, it doesn't match the word. I mean, first of all, I don't like anti. I mean, when I usually see anti, I'm like, ooh, the anti-Christ. You're anti-anty.

Well, and now this anti-antanism. So we need a, we need to shorten this up. So this is Jay's shortening up his word of the week. Anti-nomian-ism. And usually isms a bad thing. Yep. So you got two. You know, what's your little rift on isms?

Yeah, what do you say about isms? What's your ism? I've forgotten. Oh, man, that's one of my favorite things you do. Oh, oh. just looking at it logically having studied the Bible to, you know, to great extent. In other words, always remember this, stay away from the isms. Do not get gathered up in the isms.

Hollow philosophy and that's the isms. They just put there. What are your two isms you hang on? You said you hang on baptism and capitalism. baptism and capitalism well i think he said capitalism i think missy's the one that said well what about baptism and phil went okay well add that one to the list yeah yeah it's pretty good all them from the isms yeah so it does have an anti and an ism ism is it in it and uh so i don't i'm not sure how i could i could uh shorten this word up stressing that the law is

is good in that it drives us to Christ to daily repentance. So Luther was, he didn't agree with it, I don't guess. He didn't? It doesn't sound like he did. He was not a. Well, I thought that's what it was saying. No, he was saying he was against that. He believed in moral, the idea of moral law.

He says the gospel drives us to do the right thing is what he said. That's what I thought this was. No, it's saying you don't have to do anything. Basically, basically this... Well, I was agreeing with what Luther said. Right. Luther is saying... Well, why would I want to use this word if it's not something I believe that?

So just take out the anti... And the isom and I think you have it. Nomin. You're a Nome. I'm a Nomeon. You're a nomian. That's right. I would simply say to that guy what he came up with,

nominism. Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Because through Christ Jesus, the law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. So it's a little, it's a little bit tricky when you read it that way. You know, when Jesus said, my blood will remove your sins, you are going to have to die to the law of sin. Die to that. And you're given God's spirit, the law of the spirit of life. For what the law was powerless to do and that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin of him.

And so he condemned sin in sinful men. in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not have, who do not live according to the sinful nature, but according to the spirit. So we're not under a law, except it's the law. We died to it. We're baptized, we died to the law and was buried, and we come up, seal with a spirit. Now we live by the law of the spirit. Every little detail, every little mistake is not counted against you.

Get up, let's go, let's go. Keep going, keep going. You have God's spirit in you, you know. We make mistakes. He prepared us for that. So he's there 24-7. He's not holding your sins against you. Make it of your ambition to do good, be good, love God, love your neighbor.

When you blow it and you make a mistake, he's at the right hand of the Father. It's called grace, and it's far better. than carrying out, beginning with the law of Moses, far greater. Well, and it's the Roman 6th. He said, you know, when Paul said, we've died to sin, how do we live in any longer? You don't because we died to that, exactly. He gives you a time and a place where that took place. He does.

Pretty cool. It is very cool, which was Luther's point. He says, that's what living by the spirit means. Your point, the way you put it is we live for good. They don't live for evil. Just do good. That's exactly right. By the way, when you get where you're headed with First Peter.

Yep. That's where we're headed, First Peter 3.8. It's pretty interesting, you know. Whoever you are called so that you may inherit it, compassionate and humble love, and whoever would live and will see good days and keep his tongue from evil in his speech, he must turn from evil when you come to Christ. and do good. He must seek peace and pursue it.

Just go around doing good. How can you blow it? God's made it, relatively speaking, easy for us. He's taken away having to be perfect. He said, I am your perfection. I'll pay for your sin. So all you do, just turn from evil and do what's good. I've given two lessons in a row,

White's Way Road won. And actually there was a slight standing ovation after I gave that other day. And isn't it amazing out of something as simple as that. And yet it's profound in our world today. But you know, you see these. The whole book of Titus is just that. Do good, do good, do good, do good, do good, do good, do good, do good. Every angle.

And it, well, it's amazing that because it stands out so much now because there's sold swaths of the country where you have people that they don't even know what good is anymore. I got the reading through the Bible and I saw so much about it. I said, you know what? We don't preach on just being good too much.

I've never heard an in-depth lesson on it, I don't think. Right. I don't know why, but... It's in there a lot, though. It's in there a whole lot. Right. Now, looking up this anti-nomonymianism is basically it was kind of saying you have a license to sin,

which goes to that Romans 6. So we're nomads doing nomian things based on grace. That's right. Nomads. How about that? I'm trying to go to First Peter here. We're strangers, aliens, nomads. That's it.

Doing gnomian thing, grace-filled things based on grace. I mean, Roman 6, I think would be the. answer to the anti-nominalist. Yeah. Yeah. I just made up another word. See? All we needed was the word of the day, and now Jesus has expanded the book.

I don't usually like words that long because you can't use it. I mean, think how many times, Art, you're following Jesus faithfully, how many times would this come back? Come, come, you'd have to deal with it. Do not repay evil with evil or insult with for insult. Yeah, you're in 1st Peter 3, 9. Yeah. Yeah.

Other words, you say, well, you know, I have to have an answer for somebody when you disagree with him. And so he insults you, so you come back and insult him. And you've seen it in all your life on how that just mushrooms into worse and worse. You think you have to do that. But just your response would be with blessing because to this you recall so that you may inherit a blessed. whoever would love life and see good days, keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech. He must turn from evil and do good.

He must seek peace and pursue it. All those things are there, but that's way better being in a situation where you're not under law where one misstep you're dead and everybody is there at some point in their life. Well, in his overall theme is the submission. You'd say, well, how much.

better is it now what i do now since i've obeyed the gospel i believe jesus died from it i believe he'll raven it from there but what what i need to do and you're like good they're like what i said just too good you'll be all right yeah but i think it's in how hard could that be well evidently it's harder than than you think but i'm saying i think what's hard about it is he has this under the headings of these different ways you submit yep In chapter two, I mean, he was talking about even, it's very difficult to submit to the governing authorities, obviously. It's very hard to submit, especially if you're in a work environment where. You're being mistreated.

Yeah, you're being mistreated. Somebody comes to me and say, what about that old Jason, old Jason Robinson down there? What about O. Wow, Robinson? What about old, what about old Zach? You say, they're good. They do good. You say, what? you say they're good men.

What about this woman? I said she's a good woman. Good woman. Instead of thrashing through the thickets to look for mistakes, you just are saying, do good, you're doing good. Don't let it get you down. Hey, life's full of trouble. Short and full of trouble.

Just do good. Well, he gives some interesting. Let's take a break. Well, he gives some interesting qualities, especially under the submission guys here, because he's saying be sympathetic, which is not my first instinct in any situation. I mean, these are hard things.

These are a lesson to be learned, though, Jessen to be learned here. And it's your own something. What did you say? What was the problem? Sympathetic. He said, finally. So he has the situations with, you know, the classes. He's done about four or five things.

He gets to wives and husbands. I mean, this would be a suitcase sermon. Oh, it's a brutal stretch. Which is why people, scholars do not cover this. But it's under the guise of, you know, suffering for doing the right thing and being in bad situations and still finding your faith in Christ in this. And whether you're being insulted or persecuted or mistreated or. And, you know, just people.

don't like this. This is not stuff that people are sitting in the pew saying, oh, this sounds great. This sounds awesome. When your name comes out on the board, when your name, what about this person? You look and you say, they do a lot of good. They do a lot of good work. They're good

people. Yeah, but Phil, what is that based on? It's based on you know, God has he's transformed your heart to be unselfish. They're not being good to be saved. They're doing good because they are safe. Well, exactly. That's the difference.

Well, even that thought for sympathy, just live in harmony with one another. This is sometimes it's hard of people to grasp because they don't know what a harmony is. But we all grew up and singing an a cappella. We know what harmony means. Harmony means when voices come together that sound good. That's harmony.

People know how to sing. But when you look at neighborhoods, there's not a lot of harmony. Not much harmony. It's a lot of screechy. Virtually, no harmony. It's screaming. It's screaming and yelling and yow, shooting. I mean, it's chaos.

But look at the qualities. He's saying love his brothers, be compassionate and humble. Because now he's just addressing humanity. I mean, he had the different situations, the most difficult things in the classes of people, the government, the in marriages where things are tough, but it's the same qualities. You humble yourself, you're compassionate, you're sympathetic. These are not easy things to do. So then it goes on to say, we don't repay evil with evil, which is very, if we just follow

this rule, society would be way better. Insult of insult, somebody insults you, what do you do? You insult them back. But with blessing, because to this, you were called to that. you may inherit a blessing. So it tells you a lot of reasons why people are not receiving blessings from God. I think the point is, Jason, and it's a good one, verse 13 when you get to it. Who's going to harm you if you're eager to do good? Well, there has to be an answer. There has to be an answer. Who's going to harm you? Well, a lot of people, but I think a lot of people.

A lot of people have a lot of trouble when they're going around insult for insult and they up in your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, women and stuff and all this stuff, how they got to be dressed and it says, yeah, yeah. But, well, I think he's sarcastic. Who's going to harm you? I think he's sarcastically saying that it's a reference to when, this is my opinion, I could be wrong. But when he said, you know, you remember when he was sent out the 12

and he was going to give them this new power, but he was like sending them out with no weapons, no food. And, you know, they're looking around. It's to have a man for himself. This could go bad. I mean, you know, one of the episodes of the Chosen I watched depicted that. And they were like, one of them said, I mean, we could be killed. It wasn't funny, but you could tell they really captured that moment.

You know what the kicker is? Hit them. The person is writing this, as far as we can tell, Jesus told him how he was going to die, and it was brutal. listen. Well, exactly. And you say, these were people, most of these people, died for the cause. Well, exactly. But it, who's going to. But having that hit them. It's not like they're not out there waiting for you. And it happened not long after he wrote. But his response, if you'll remember, was he said, don't be, you know, afraid of those who can kill the body. But those who can kill the soul and throw it into hell. I think it's the same vein here. He's going to harm you. I mean, the whole thing is about people harming you.

you. There's a lot of people that's going to harm you, but he's saying, you have a protector in heaven in the end, because he goes on to say, but even if you should suffer, if you should suffer for what is right, you're blessed. Do not fear what they fear. Do not be frightened. I think it's the same. So how do you not fear what they fear? Well, most people fear physical debt. That's how people take over the world. That's what terrorists are all about. They go in there and they threaten your way of life by killing you. But even the fear, let's take another break, even the fear jays of injustice and being wronged,

people, there's a deep fear people have of like, I don't want to be taken advantage of. I mean, you see people, they get angry about that, boy. They can't go across the land with a Bible in one hand and just ripping the shreds every, body and everything, it's evil. At some point, you know, he's going to get down there. You know, you set apart Christ as Lord.

But before you get that, but look, people don't, people in the audience at churches don't like a sermon saying, look, be prepared for injustice because then you're being like Jesus. Yeah. Well, nobody wants that. Right. Well, no, I didn't sign up for this. Right.

We need to do something about this. And that's what I said. People are not being sympathetic. When you apply this to that, I'm talking about injustice. And I mean, it's just not happening, but his whole point. Especially Jay's today. And this idea of social justice is fueling. And look, I'm not talking about just in the world.

I'm talking about churches. But you wouldn't want to. They have bought into this thing. Exactly. Into this message. You know, it's like you walk up and, you know, and some poor little old lady walks in there and look. down and some visitors have sat down where she usually sits and she said you need to move this is

where I sit and they're like do what I mean you you tell somebody they have to be seated somewhere else because where they're seated is where you are seated every Sunday morning and they make an issue of it that's a bad that's a bad you're not doing good there you're stirring up trouble that you And you're the bad guy when you're like, well, there's just a little old lady there. No, that's, you're entrenched. So don't do that. Don't be that.

Yeah. So then he says, if you should suffer for what is right, you're blessed. That's just a very hard teaching. Do not fear what they fear. Do not be frightened. Which, uh, this has a quote from Isaiah 8, 12. I don't know if you've looked at that, but is that a quote from Isaiah 8, 12? I guess it is.

Yeah, in fact, we had quoted earlier in that same, Isaiah 814 was earlier in 1st Peter 2, the stone that causes men to stumble. Oh, yeah, this is good. Let me read this. So verse 11 says, the Lord spoke to me with a strong hand upon me, warning me not to follow the way of the people, which is just we could just leave it there you know i mean because you're getting your the way you're who you're following is from the lord yeah he said do not call conspiracy everything that these people

call conspiracy do not fear what they fear and do not dread it the lord almighty is the one you are to regard as holy he is the one you are to fear he is the one you are to dread it I mean, that's pretty good. That's really good. Yeah. No, and that's that same thing about following the crowd is the concept and the idea. Well, in the conspiracy. And basically, look, even our nation, it's a divided nation,

and you're just ganging up on each other, throwing haymakers. But, you know, in Christ, it's just different. And that's, that is the answer to this. I mean, that's why it's earlier when he talks about a holy nation, it's a nation within a nation. The unifier is Christ. And the politics are secondary. When you get that out of whack, when we start talking in terms of election cycles instead of...

And what drives it all, Al, conspiracies. That's exactly right. I mean, look, there is... Just go to any social media outlet. I hadn't been there in a while, but... And you'll find the latest... I've been there ever. The latest conspiracy, you know?

So you have this. So let's just take... what just happened. So somebody looks up and says, hey, there's a balloon over South Carolina. And so people are like, well, there's a conspiracy. It's from China. Well, it turns out it was from China. So then what happened was the pressure mounted on the White House

because they're like, China has sent a balloon over here and has spying on us. Went all the way across the case. So then all of a sudden everybody's like, well, I mean, people are running. running out in the streets. We're being watched. The goal. And look, you had a battle on the two, wherever,

which side of the argument you were on. Because I was thinking in the back of my mind, where I shoot the thing down? I mean, I was just completely thinking as a U.S. citizen because you didn't ask our permission. And if it had come over your house, if it would have been low enough,

you would have gladly shot it down. Nominate me. I'm good. Look, some people are good at long shots. I'm like, I would have a love to set up with a sniper raffle. And let's just all do it as, you know, have some fire. And there would have been about a hundred million, a hundred million others. That would have been a better way to do it.

That's right. You sent out a public service announcement. Whoever is interested as a U.S. citizen in bringing this down, bring your gun to the beach of South Carolina. It would have been awesome. So the pressure mounts. So guess what? They shoot it down. Because politically, they're like.

I mean, you can't. The crowd is getting restless, you know. So then what I'm saying is then all the conspiracies come up, because I asked Missy the other day. I said, they still talking about that balloon? She said, oh, yeah, they shot it down. I was like, I wasn't even aware they shot it down. Oh, yeah, and they're looking for it.

Because I was thinking, well, that's a TV show idea. Yeah. But dang it, they're already looking for it. Yeah. I could see size saying, all right, boys, I got a mission for you. I wonder what the final remains of the balloon looked like. Well, I'd love to know. But what I was saying is more conspiracy, because people got mad, angry.

It made good TV, all the news channels went to it. It all. Where is it at today? So when you think about a passage like this, you know, you don't, look, I think it's okay to give your opinion on it. I gave mine. You know, I'd have shot it down. Well, the God of heaven is placed in a position where the 7th, point two billion are under his watch at all times.

But that was my point. I'm not going to panic because China's spying on us. By the way, this isn't the first time China's spying on the U.S. Well, exactly. I got a newsflash for you. They got satellites coming over. Oh, well, I'm saying take it for what it is. But look, if you're out with a sign over this on the street and you're hollering,

you've missed something here about life. That's right. But look, there are people doing that. And so I think there's a difference. Be prepared to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but do this with gentleness and respect. You don't have to beat them over the head with it.

Well, and that verse really does crystallize our response. But it also says set apart Christ's Lord. I mean, you're, Jesus is our message. It's not, we're not going out here sharing our views on, you know, the political spectrum. You're sharing Jesus. You're introducing Jesus. Jesus changes how we view the kingdoms and the earth and what's beyond the earth.

That's why, you know, a sister passage to this First Peter is we don't grieve like the rest of men. That's right. We don't fear like the rest of men. And we don't grieve like the rest of men. Because what happens? People die. Christians die. Suffering happens.

People, Christians die from unjust suffering. And you say, well, are you going to grieve? Well, I'm not going to grieve like the rest of men. And what is implied there? Sometimes if you point someone to Jesus, although he doesn't think anything about it too much and doesn't move on it. But this dude, this happened in the past, I found out there yesterday, it's dead before. But finally this guy, all of a sudden he has five years after, I don't know what I said about Jesus, but I pointed him to Jesus for some reason because he was a human being.

So five years later, he has a massive heart attack, survives a heart attack. He said the first place I went when I could get on my feet was the church building and tell him I want to obey the gospel right then. He said, it woke me up. But at least he had, I gave him the opportunity to what he ought to do, Before he had the heart attack. When he had the heart attack, he moved on it, which I thought, you know what, that's a good ending. Well, it's funny, Dad, because let's take her last break.

Yesterday after I preached, I was meeting some, we had a lot of people visit and went to your class and we're there. And so there was a good group, by the way. Yeah, it was great. And one guy came up to me. All over the United States. One guy came up to him and he said, you know, when y'all filmed your, We all were filming your other show, your duck show. He said, do you all remember filming an episode up on Lake Darbone?

I said, yeah, I remember that. I was in that episode. And he said, well, I had the little house right next to the house that y'all were, that was your lake house, you know, he kind of did the air quotes because we didn't really have one, but they had a set up in one. And he said, I was in the house no tour. He said, of course, I was, he said, I was a drunk back then. He said, I used to drink a fifth of whiskey every day.

He said, so I was drunk the whole time y'all were there. He said, but I met some of y'all's family. He said, but I tried to meet your youngest brother, but he wouldn't have anything to do with me. I said, really? He said, yeah, he says, probably because I was drunk. And I said, oh, yeah, well, yeah, I guess so. And I wasn't sure where this was going. And he said, you know, I just wanted to come today and apologize about that.

He said, I got my life straightened out. I came to Christ. He said, I've been sober for a year in two weeks. He said, and I just wanted to come and apologize to your family. He said, you know, I wish I had been sober. back then it would have been a lot more fun to watch y'all film that episode. I said, well, man, I said, I'm glad you're here today. I said, I'm glad you're sober, and I accept your apology for the family.

I said, when I see old Jepico, I'll tell him. You never know where the word is going to reach. I mean, he felt compelled to drive to our church to tell me that. And I, you know, I wanted him to know. That's why you shouldn't be afraid to tell somebody about jeet. That's exactly right. It goes in with what the text says, you know, the second part of 15, where it says, but do this with gentleness and respect.

You know, always give a reason. And this is one of the few verses that I have memorized just by constant use. But, you know, always be prepared to give an answer to everyone to ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. Keeping a clear conscience so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

So I think you're three-pointed. now is we don't fear what they fear. Yep. We don't grieve like they grieve. Yep. And we're unashamed, which that's what, you know, we're doing here. But when you look at the opposite of that, you be an unashamed that Christ is Lord bring shame to people who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ.

Yeah, that's right. And they, look, you're going to be slandered. I'm sure the guy who was drunk probably said a few slanderous things because that's what he probably he probably spoke ill of that's what I'm saying ever until he realized it was him it wasn't jail that's right and then he recognized it and but it was funny jays is you know at the end of my sermon I quoted this verse in my sermon because I because I said if people wondering what my purpose is in life and then I just quoted this first yeah so here's my purpose my purpose is when I'm going to set apart Christ's Lord and when someone asked me for the hope that I have, you know, I'm going to share it with them. And then, but I'm going to do it with gentleness and respect.

I'm going to have a clear conscience. Yep. You know, and as I go forward. So, and it was funny, this gentleman had come that day to apologize for his behavior because he had spoken maliciously about one of our family members. That's what it goes back to more. That makes that text sure come to life. He really did.

It all happened in one shot. It's even more than gentleness in respect. He's giving you these qualities about living in harmony and being sympathetic. and humble and compassionate in these situations where even if you're suffering and injustice, you know, for the sake of Christ, he's like, you're going to be blessed because of that. And I mean, I take a lot of comfort in that. I mean, it's, you know, it's hard to be bold. And, I mean, we've been mocked and scared.

I mean, you can go to any kind of social media platform and you'll find, you know, half a dozen people. throwing haymakers at us for whatever reason and making up most of it but you know that may have bothered me when I was you know 21 but at this stage I realized that it's more a reflection on their condition on the earth look if you don't have Jesus you're basically trapped and doomed yeah me just think about your condition oh out a hope of the afterlife without a hope of injustice this is being made right, without a hope of forgiveness, of having a place where you belong. You know, this belonging. And it's right there in front of you.

Yeah. Not having a community and a unity within that that's going to span forever. Well, no wonder you're throwing haymaker. It's a reflection of your own condition. That's right. I asked the guy yesterday, I said, what got to you? What got you on the right path? What got you to Christ?

He said, well, I was working off someplace. And he said, I was crossing the street. He said, you know, I was drunk. He said, I was crossing the street. I got hit by a car. He said, you know, and they took my spleen. They took this, that, and the other, and part of my pancreas. And he said, you know, he said, I realized laying there in that hospital bed that I had one more shot to get this right if I survived it.

If I didn't, I was a goner. And he said, so I told the Almighty laying on that bed. If I get out of this, I'm turning to you. And that had been a year ago. And he did. And he turned it around. I said, well, that was your wake up call. He said, oh, I'm, I'm awake.

I said, well, good. But I mean, it was excited because it was like you see what happens in people's life. And you hope it doesn't have to come to that. Well, I tell people that in my speeches. I'm not, why are you waiting to be forced? Right. Which is what most people do. Most people have to reach the bottom of the barrel before they cry out.

That's why they start prison ministries or, you know, different things. When you just, if you go out there thinking that there's no consequences to life or your action and you're trying to do it your way, I mean, we all know. We all know. We've seen the movies. It always ends not well. Yeah. And let's face it. There's no guarantee.

that you're going to make it through. That's the thing about it. It's never an advantage to walk the line, to walk the thin line. Nope. Because you know, people don't make. But it's not something you're just trying to, you know, pull, you're not going to pull the wool over God's eyes.

He created you, he knows you better than anybody. And he wants your heart. And what you're missing out on is, you know, this peace and light, you know, we're talking about peace and blessing and confidence and, you know, being prepared. I mean, these are, it just gives you a better life, you know. Right.

Because you know. You finally got hope. Who is going to harm you for doing good? I mean, the answer is no one ultimately because what we're in on is bigger than that. But in the short term, oh, you're going to be tortured. You're going to suffer. But it's, there's a peace that knowing that God's in control and then he loves us that carries us through. Yeah, no doubt about it.

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