Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 633 | Uncle Si & Jase’s Super Bowl Commercial Fame & Jase’s Religious Beef Stew Experience

Episode Date: February 17, 2023

Jase gushes about the best food he’s ever eaten in his life, but the guys aren’t impressed! Uncle Si and "Duck Family Treasure" made the Super Bowl coverage, and Jase remembers the time he cooked breakfast for Tim Tebow. Phil explains how Christians should react when they are faced with persecution and abuse. Jase analyzes three different schools of thought on the interpretation of a difficult Bible verse.  In this episode: 1 Peter 3, verses 17-22; Romans 12, verses 17-20; 2 Peter 2, verse 4; Ephesians 4, verses 8-9; John 5, verse 28 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So we're here in mid to February. The day after the Super Bowl, a recording in the Laird, you just had a few days off from production. Yeah, I got an eye irritation. I'm not trying to look cool. I thought you were just pulling a dad and wearing your sunglasses today. It's bright in here. Yeah. Well, Sack came over last night to watch the Super Bowl because apparently he's got some, I don't know what he, he's got television issues. He has to come to my house every

time there's a major event that he wants to watch. He just shows up? Yeah. That's weird. Well, we're talking about size. The national championship, Sy's coming over. Okay, come on, he's always welcome. Does he have a TV? He has a TV. And because I know, like, I've stopped by his house before and he watches, he watches some of the same stuff. Dad, he's like, watches the, like, old concerts and musicians. He likes that and old westerns. So he's got some things he watches. But like if it's a big current event like the Super Bowl of the national championship,

he doesn't. Did it ever cross his mind that what if you're not home? I guess he's just going to go in and watch it because I don't lock my doors. Well, that's probably not a good thing to announce. Well, I probably not. Unashamed. I'm safe with the Unashamed nation. I think of it.

Well, the one time my house got broken into, I told that story. before. The biggest damage was my door, and it wasn't locked. If they just turned the knob. If they just turned the knob, it would actually save me some money. You know, they mostly just stole kids video games and the video game controller. But they tore the door down. I had to fix all that.

Well, I grew, I mean, we grew up out here, and we never locked doors growing up at your house. because we were down in the middle of nowhere. Well, I didn't lock the doors because I thought if somebody really wants to get in, they'll get in, which proved my point. They kicked my door, and that was when I lived down off of Shoney Lake. Oh, yeah, out there off of Tibble. Yeah. So, and so, you know, much Christmas presents.

So I'm pretty sure it had to be kids of some sort. Who breaks into a house and steals Christmas present? The Grinch. Have you ever seen The Grinch? Dogs and guns. It's pretty well standard. Well, I have dogs and guns, but they waited until the dogs were silent and the guns were away. At least they didn't steal your guns.

Yeah, they'd steal the guns, which is why I thought it was kids, because I had something in there. So, so Dad, did you watch the game? Were you happy with the, the game was a great game? I didn't think that. I didn't really have a, I wasn't pulling hard. I wasn't either. I didn't know whether my homes could pull it off or not. He was kind of injured going in, but I thought he got the MVP this year.

I was surprised that he stayed the course and he did pull it off. Now, Sa was pulling for Kansas City, and it was so funny when you watch a game with Si, because, like, he's so one-sided. So, like, since he was pulling for Kansas City, like everything, the rest were cheating the whole time and every call that went again. He said, I'll tell you, boys, they'll just cheat right out. I said, you're so unobjected. I did think that pass interference call that really determined the game at the end.

It was a little bit. I don't think you can make that call in that situation. I mean, literally. It was pretty light. Technically, it was a foul, but when you're playing for the Super Bowl, I didn't like that. Which, you know. And I didn't have a, I didn't have, you know, I didn't care who won. And typically the mindset of refs in playoffs and Super Bowl is they don't want to decide a game.

Yeah, let them play. Let them play. did obstruct him technically or whatever but it's just such a big one sure the eagle wasn't that it wasn't it wasn't blatant so well we watched like uh we had a bunch of people over we were in our transition phase with the little one so we had a lot of people from out of town and and uh so i watched actually the second quarter down at jeeps and uh jep and jesska they've created one of the greatest dishes on the planet it's called beef stew.

Now, I know that that doesn't sound. Do you think beef stew has just been created in the modern? Let me just tell you. They've created. These beef stews has been around for about 2,000 years, huh? If there was a competition of the greatest beef stew in the world, I would nominate Jeff and Jessica. Now, I will say this, because this is going to change your opinion.

When you hear that, you're like, well, I mean, how good can it be? I had something, you wouldn't believe yesterday. It's called a potato. Yeah, okay. It was groundbreaking. This is funny. They've just come out with it. It's funny.

So let me change. Let me make you go, hmm. So the beef they use are filet mignon. I like you where you go on that. Now, when he first told me about this, this was months ago, he said, you want to come over the house? We were filming. And he said, Jessica's going to fix her famous beef stew.

And I said, well, how come I've never heard? heard about it. He said, well, I just told you. It's now becoming famous because he's telling you. Sounds like a good waste of prime beef. Well, that's what I thought. And that was an error. Yeah. Because that's what I thought. And he said, you know, she uses filets. I said, filet's what? He said, mignon. I said, well, that looks like a good way to ruin some filet mignon. He said, why don't you just try it? I said, okay. So.

I will say that's a bowl. Is it a slow cook? Is it slow cook for hours? It's a slow cook. Okay. They do it on the stove. I'll say slow cook, a couple of hours. Yeah.

When the broth of that beef stew touched my lips and went down the hatch, it warmed the soul in a way. The flavors were bursting before I even got to the steak. And I thought, huh. It was more than a meal. There was a spice. There was a heat there. And so after I ate the first bowl, this is months ago, I said, look, every time she cooks this, I want to be on an invite list. I'll trade out whatever your favorite meal that we do, I'll do.

And so he said, well, when Missy makes the beans and rice and the hot cornbread. So we made a deal. that we actually shook on it we did knuckles but uh so now every time they cook that we're there and every time we cook our they did it last night well they did it for the super bowl because they knew we had a lot of people in right and uh we we had a lot of people at our house uh up the last three or four days and uh i think that's why i got some eye irritation just from i hadn't any sleep and it's our house has been you know a madhouse so uh so uh so He said, well, we'll cook supper for y'all.

So, you know, we can watch Super Bowl. So we watched the first quarter there. And look, here's what's funny. Our friends from Colorado, the Langhoeffers were down. And so they said the same thing. I said, look, we're going to go down to jump desk because I need some beef stew. And he went, huh. I said, yeah, I'm going to make you eat that.

Huh. I said, this is going to be one of the greatest things you've ever eaten. And he just, he looked at me like, because he knew I was serious. I said. And Trent's had some good meals around our. So I dropped him off at the airport this morning. And he said, Jase,

I need to talk to you about something. And it's been a drama for a week. So I was like, what could this be? And he said, I'm really, I'm not sure I can leave Louisiana unless I get that recipe for that beef stew.

I'm just not sure I can physically go get on a plane. So, Al, it is you haven't tried it i have not tried it so now look when i guess i'm going to have to make a deal with jeb to say a look i want to describe this because i know a lot of people are interested in this so you go in there it's a pot it's a black pot as big around as you can get one black cast iron pot the there's a lot of leaves and sticks in the pot jacca she pulled them out so i don't know what all that's about I think she did it on purpose.

That part of the season. Spey leaves, I'm sure. It's a lot of leaves and a lot of sticks. And you're picking out the sticks and leaves. And so I know there's carrots in there and there's little round potatoes, as you said. But it's a concoct- Now, look, I love a good beef stew. This is not a good beef stew.

You know, they transformed this beef stew into a creation. When I said beef stew, I was kidding. Where did they get the recipe? She said that there was two recipes, one for just a stew and something, and she basically got to thinking, so you know what I think would be good? And so she concocted this from two recipes, and I'm going to tell you, it's in my top three meals that a human can eat. Fantastic.

I went in there to go back in. Lisa's here today. I had a bowl so full, and I ate it. It was just fire hot, so it was hard to eat it quickly. Yeah. And I went back in there. Did you burn the roof of your mouth by out the back? No, I mean, I knew it was hot.

I saw it bubbling when I was getting it out. But when I went back in there, there was nothing left. It was gone? Well, Langhofer, he can eat five. I've never seen a man. He said, I've charred. He said every piece of flesh all the way down, I have just. Now, there's a man who can't hold back.

He couldn't help it. It was so hot. He was hot. He's hot. Well, I've never heard the accolades of a beef stew that matched that. Well, you're welcome. So then we went down at halftime and then picked the game back up. So we had the porkaloosa was our meal.

So Stone cooked, he cooked ribs. We had habanero sauce ribs for the. people like the spicy. Then we had regular ribs. Then we had, we had pork belly burnt ends. You take a pork belly, he cuts them into squares,

smokes them and then cooks them in the oven, puts some barbecue sauce on them. Does he burn the ends? You don't burn them. Well, how come he calls them pork belly burnt ends? Because that's what they're called. It's like a brisket burn in. Have you ever had those?

it's like they cut the end off of a biscuit. Because there's a lot of fat in there, so you cook them and the fat crisp up, it's just, it's unbelievable. Well, Peter, we're looking at the apostle Peter. And Peter is the one that said practice hospitality without grumbling. Oh, no, that's true. That's right. Well, I've been very hospitable for the last four or five days. You sound like it.

Yeah. I all came over. We had a, we had a. No grumbling in the moment. about, oh, it was too salty, it was too hot. No, no, this is the greatest beef stew of all. We hosted a guest over. We hosted a birthday party for the little one.

So it's biblical. It's biblical. Like the hospitality without grumbling. And it sounds like everybody was putting out on that. See, you all ate the whole pot. You ate the whole thing. I mean, everybody cleaned it all up. I was shocked.

In some parts of the world, the people who were practice in making that dish would have said, that guy ate it all. They ate it all. What's funny is before we started partaking, Jep said, now it's better on the second day. And so after I went in to get the second helping that was not there, I said, well, Jep, that hope is lost.

There will be no second day. There's a lot of truth of the second day on gumbos and all that. Oh, they're typically better. Any kind of a stew or a gumbo. Then he said, well, ingredients have time. to really release their flavors, you know, on the second day, gumbos, jambalize. Well, Jep made a great observation.

He said, I underestimated the power of people from Colorado on what they could eat once they... Volume-wise. Of something really good. But it's not the state of Colorado, for those you listen to Colorado. It's just one man. Trent Langhofer, the man, I mean, I saw him, Lisa made a thing of... of lasagna. And I mean, you take it out of a square lasagna

because, you know, it swells on you. It's layers of pasta, meat, cheese. The man ate three quarters of a nine by 13 pound lasagna. Well, look, I'm going to tell you this setting. So I cook breakfast for them every morning except this morning. And last night I made a declaration. I said, look, I'm not going to be able to cook breakfast for you in the morning. And Trent said, oh, why?

And I said, because y'all have eaten everything I have. We're literally out of the food. You're cleaning the kitchen out. You have, you, I'm not going to the store at this hour. I'm just saying, well, and we made a Chick-fil-A run. Yeah, so you're on your own. And, uh, and me and Trent ordered breakfast because we were in two- The girl at Chick-fil-A, she said, you know, your brother just came through ahead of us.

I really, she said, he had a whole crew with him. And I was like, well, I'm getting food for him. She said, it looked like he was feeding others. Oh, no. Hang-go, let's take a break. No, she concluded that since Trent was a pastor, and based on what he ordered, that we were feeding the 3,000 again, some kind of reenactment. She said he had a huge order. So look, I ordered, you know, just a little bitty, the little, what do you call those, the minis, and just with a tea.

And I actually ordered the meal, but they left out the hash brown. So they owe me like, you know, 17 orders of hash brown. So Trent made his order, and he spit it out with such speed that I didn't catch it. And she said, okay, that's $49. And I thought, well, there wasn't it two of us. I was thinking, $49? What did you order? But I just, so as we were driving down the road, he just kept pulling out burritos.

And he couldn't have been enjoying them. You know what I mean? It was just, p, p, pong, pong. He'd grab another. It was like a dog when a dog takes those three big bags. I remember practice hospitality without grumbed. I was just making an observation. I've never seen a human being that could eat like that.

The man can eat. It was funny. So used to, when Trent was on our staff, we worked together for a little while, before I left. We'd be in, of course, he's a workout king. He balanced. That's why they can eat so much. He works out like a madman.

So he's fit, you know, but he eats. He's got a, feed the machine. We're in a meeting and staff meeting. We're having lunch after the meeting. You know, they're bringing in lunch. You know, this is a working meeting. So it's, you know, we're meeting like from 10 to 12.

Then we're going to eat together. Go by 11, we're meeting, we're talking, working through whatever we're working through. Trent starts breaking out Tupperware dishes. I look over there at him and he decks had a big old ribby steak, big old potato. He starts eating. I said, Trent, you know, they're bringing in. and whatever we were having that day for lunch here in about 45 minutes. He said, yeah, I know.

That's called, their appetizers were slightly large. And I say they. I mean, he was eating a 14-ounce ribby and a baked potato as just a prep. Well, look, I wasn't going to tell him since for throwing him on the butt. And he's one of my good friends. We love him. Oh, I love him. I absolutely love him.

He loves Jesus, and he is a great father and husband. I mean, I've been around his kids for a day. I mean, you can't fake this. they pour into their family. But the only time I've ever had this happen, now it's happened twice. It had only happened once. You know, I had Tim Tebow stayed at my house for a couple days.

And one morning I cooked breakfast for everybody. You know, he had a buddy, our family. Well, I had scrambled 10 eggs. And I had them on a plate. Well, I turned around and was doing something. And I looked back and Tebow, he thought that was his place. And he ate those 10 eggs, and I would say 40 seconds. You happen to swerve into his area.

I thought, well, the same thing happened yesterday. I only had six eggs left, which doesn't sound like that many. But I put, when I took them out, that's all I had left. I had them on the plate. I turned around. He was eating the last bite, Trent was. And he said, man, thank you for those eggs. Practice hospitality.

Well, I hope. Without grumbling. I said, I hope no one else wanted it. He was like, oh, that's all you had. I was like, they're gone. Yeah, give me a dozen eggs. When's the last time you ate six eggs in 20 seconds? Always remember this.

Y'all are young, say, young bucks. We're not young, Dad. I'm almost 60. 50s, you got a little gray hair coming, but y'all are young. We're not young. It's all relative. When you get about 75, guess what happens? You can't eat.

You're not hungry anymore. I can only eat like two eggs. I mean, I'm full. Well, I ate that biscuit. Well, a girl, you brought with a little chicken on it. Chicken biscuit. But I had to force myself to eat it. It was all you could do to eat one chicken biscuit.

That's right. I get it. Well, we're glad you did. So I want to say before we leave it, one more thing on the Super Bowl. Well, I got to tell one thing. Okay, good. So, I don't know if you noticed this, because y'all may have been talking. So, because you're more aware of commercials.

Oh, that was the one thing. the normal. So, but, but toward the end, it was funny because I was sitting there and somebody happened to notice that they did a Fox Nation.

They did. With y'all on there. So I, so I rewound it, and we stopped it on side because, you know, every,

of course of all my grandkids there, and we had a household of folks. And I said, look at there. We're looking, we're watching the Super Bowl and there's Uncle Si,

but he's sitting right there. Of course, my grandkids, he was one of those things where they look up and they're like, it was the moment. They're like, it hit them.

like that's as big as Patrick Mahomes because this Uncle Sy. And so Saia's line, he says, boys, we're going to get filthy, stinking rich. That's the line. I think he thought he was doing a commercial since he was seeing a commercial. I was surprised that y'all made the cut.

I thought he made the Super Bowl. Well, your wife, Phil, called me, my mom. Oh, look. She was like, hey, because we saw that we saw the sec one but now they had run it before oh i didn't see the person well i i didn't either but my phone started going on in my pocket just meh meh meh i was like what i thought someone was called no it was messages they're like y'all did a super bow commercial i was like no so it can't be right yeah but i didn't realize they just did a compilation of some of their shows and and you know okay

it was great technically we were on a super bow commercial Because there were only like 120 million people watching some of me. Yeah. Well, that was true. And I did. That's what I was going to say. But Kay, so when it ran the second time, my phone, bramp, bramp. And I was like, here we go again with everybody's letting me know.

We're on the Super Bowl. Well, they may not love you. I looked at it. They may not love you, but they all know who you are. That's right. Well, I looked at it, and it was Kay calling. She said, did you know that you were just on TV? and look I had her own speaker and the laying offers were there you know and so they kept trying to say something but she kept talking you know she wouldn't take a breath

she was like I mean we're watching this thing I'm telling you the chiefs are going to win don't panic don't worry it's going to happen my homes is going to pull it out but I just and I knew you'd be watching the Superbow and I figured a willie might and I said well I watched it with yep the second Well, okay, she said, but I don't know what the other two are doing. And there's no telling because they're just not into football. But, oh, wait a minute. He's breaking away. I got to go. Bye. And then my home started.

I was like, we're tape. We're tape delayed here. Then he broke a big run. So it was funny because mom told me this morning, she said, you know, I talked to your three brothers last night on the phone. You're the only one I didn't talk to. I said, thank you, mom. Thank you for that. It was funny.

So I hung up and the Langover said, that was very. Hearing her voice and that was something will treasure or whatever. They enjoyed hearing her. Because she really is a football. She loves it. Mom gets into it. Was she yelling during the game? Dad, was she?

Oh, was she yelling? I would call it squealing. So she was happy with the out. Oh, my goodness. So she was pulling for her home? Yeah. I fixed him, Phyllis and Tony. we had pan-fried burgers, hamburgers.

Oh, so you broke out the famous burgers? They requested the burgers, so I made them some burgers. So that was good. You broke out the burgers. Or Phyllis and Tony, they big football fans? Were they into the game? They seemed to be last night. They got caught up in the emotion of it up.

I don't think they watch a lot of football. So I was waiting for Zach to show up. Well, apparently Zach is still playing the movie mogul. Oh, okay. Roll. So he doesn't quite have time. He's, you know, he kind of gets down here and gets on the base level and runs with us, you know, when he's in the scrum. I hate to bring this up, but a birdie, a small birdie told me that there was, with our listeners, the podcast listeners who are now speaking, there was quite the request to make a transaction and replace Zach with his wife.

So evidently she resonated well. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that. She is a spectacular woman, especially a daughter of the Almighty. She's a warrior. You bet you. Yeah, I've been getting emails that love the wives' appearance

because those are the last two podcasts that dropped. And to be fair, the same bird he said that there was also an outcry of saying, tell Jace that he married way up. Of course, I already knew that. So tell me something I don't know. Yeah, that's been well documented already. Let's take another break. Yeah, it's a perfect time to transition.

We talked about really that whole section that we've been in, this last one, is the theme of it has been submission, really. And suffering. Right. And in suffering while you're submitting. You submit to the Lord, you're going to suffer. Right. You submit to the authorities, you may suffer.

And even when we talked about in the marriage setting, Peter presented the scenario that it was not the sort of the best scenario for a marriage. In other words, you know. Exactly. With a wife, not having a believing husband. I mean, that's going to be very tough. Difficult at best, right? Yeah. Probably some suffering is going to occur.

So that's kind of been the theme. And the pattern, and we're going to hit it again today and in the next actually a couple of podcasts. The cycle that Peter comes to is that you have a situation where you're called to submit. There's going to be suffering involved because it's not going to be pleasant. And then he's going to use Jesus, his suffering, as the example for us to look to. This is going to be the continuum pattern throughout the entire book, which tells me that this is Peter's way of dealing with his own suffering. I mean, he's remembering back.

because he's at the end. This is 20 years after he was running around with Jesus. So he's looking back and thinking, you know, all right, this is it. You know, he's under the same oppression that they're under. And he's showing them that once you find Jesus, he's the only place you can go where good comes out of it. Whereas 1st Peter 2, like newborn babies, crave pure. spiritual milk so that you may grow up in your salvation. You say, well, what's the source of it?

Now that you have tasted that the Lord is good. You got to remember, when you're dealing with the human race, and there's no Jesus there, there's no good there either. There's no one good but God. So he's fixed it so he could remove our sins, guarantee us we can. be raised from the dead. You say, so what do I do now? You say, just do good.

Just be good. That's first, that's First Peter, too. You go right across that, live such good lives among the pagans, which they all were before they were converted, that though they accuse you of doing wrong, you'll have blowback, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visit. us. That starts and that runs. I didn't get to the end of it. 1 Peter 2.3, 1 Peter 212, 1 Peter 215, 1 Peter 220, 1 Peter 313, 317. I've looked through the Bible, Romans, the Corinthian letter. It is amazing how many times the word, the admonition, just do good.

Just be good. Jesus went around doing good and healing all those who were under the power of the devil. Went around doing good. You say, you do the same. That's why when First John talks about walking like Jesus did, just do good. Well, that transformation process allows us to do that. I was going to say this, when you brought up that now that you've tasted the Lord is good. And there's a lot what's happened in the last few days.

I'll share, you know, in future podcasts. But, you know, with this little one that we've, you know, we're the primary caregiver and now we have a new role in, what hit me about that when you read that, because I thought the same thing, now that you've tasted that the Lord is good. And the Bible uses that kind of language. Yeah. Because, you know, it's hard to explain when you, because these taking care of babies and false. children and even adopt them. They're painful experiences. And sometimes there's a lot of suffering just because you're experiencing a relationship and you get attached. So it's very emotional and

these types of things happen. And it hit me in this process that people who know about Jesus or people who go to church, that's one thing. But it's totally different when, you get to 1 peter 3 15 it says in your heart set apart christ is lord and this and using that that language of tasting that the lord is good there's a big difference once you're invested in the lord in a relationship capacity where you're you're vulnerable you you're acknowledging that he is with you 24 7 he knows what you're thinking this is when this becomes real on a daily basis in the that type of way where God's qualities, his immutable qualities, you know, he's all knowing and all powerful and, you know, all loving. When these things hit you as you walk with Jesus and you're

conscious reflection on Jesus, it's almost something powerful happens that you weren't counting on and something that's really unpredictable as you walk with Jesus. And the same thing applies in these settings is what I'm saying is because everybody we brought in, you know, we have a lot of families that help us. And we always say the same thing. Now look, you're not prepared for what's fixed to happen. Of course, they all say, just like I did, oh, yeah, well, you know, we'll be fine. But once you invest and once you have this relationship and you pour your heart in that

relationship, but I think it is a great analogy for where a lot of people who are thinking about following Jesus or thinking about, you know, they'll use the phrase getting back in church. And what we're discussing when you surrender and you submit to the Lord, when you go all in, which is what the Lord really is asking you to do. And we've made that point throughout the Gospels that Jesus is, you're either all in or you're all out. There's no middle ground in what he was offering. And once you go all in, it's something that's hard to describe until you do it. So I think that that was his basis here when he said,

but if you should suffer for what is right in 14, you are blessed. Do not fear what they fear. Do not be frightened. Well, you know, it's very difficult to live when you know you're going to suffer or be persecuted or you're putting yourself in a dangerous position. And I use this analogy about this little one because, you know, once you have a relationship with someone and you love them well if the house catches on fire

guess what i'm risking my life to get everyone i love out and you wouldn't think twice about it because of the relationship but that kind of mentality carries over in your faith you're like this is what i believe this can change your life i i want to give this to you and so i think that's what he's he's trying to get you to see so he says but in your heart set apart christ's lord always be prepared to give an answer to everyone to ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have. Well, he's in the context of if you give that answer,

trouble may come your way. Even death, which is what happened in our history and it's still happening today. So, but do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in

Christ may be ashamed of their slant. The idea is to expand again to something outside of yourself because he started out this section up in verse 8 with finally live in harmony with one another. So it's a one another beginning. But then he says, be prepared to give an answer to everyone. So now the idea is the reason you live this way is you have an opportunity to expand for someone else to know Christ. So we keep coming back to that over and over and over again. Well, and that surrendered spirit, you know, in Jesus living in us is what allows us,

you're right out. The verse eight are the hard things for me to do. I mean, sometimes it's just hard to live in harmony with people. They make it almost impossible. Romans 12, as far as it depends on you, try to live at peace with all of you. My point is it can be very difficult based on the circumstances. It's very difficult for me to be compassionate and humble, especially when you're dealing with difficult people,

especially in the unbelieving world or whatever may come your way. It's a sad thing, but a lot of people still can't grasp that once you come to Jesus by faith, and once you die to sin and are buried and are raised and seal with the spirit, your sins are not counted against them. your sins are not counted against you anymore. We think we're in, we're out, we're out, we're out, we're out, we're out, we're trying to be perfectly, and what they don't understand, they're not under law anymore. They're under grace.

Well, you're leading us to those. God knows you're going to make mistakes. He's already prepared. He's not counting them against you. Stand up and go help your neighbor. So you're leading us to the verse 17 and 18, which takes us back to Christ's example. It says it's better if it is. is God's will, which is going to be a phrase he's going to bring back up in chapter four of God's will,

to suffer for doing good than for doing evil. I mean, he's basically making an obvious. If you're out there cutting up and you're suffering the results of that, I mean, I think it's understood. That's on you. But for doing God's will, it's more difficult to grasp. So then it says, for, verse 18, for Christ died for sins, once for all, the righteous, for the unrighteous to bring you to God. So this was Peter's idea through the Holy Spirit, which was ultimately God's idea, that no matter what happens to you in your life,

when you look at what God did through Jesus and allowing his son to suffer, I mean, that is our motivation. You know, if you say, well, I just don't want to say, I mean, I just don't like pain. I'm going to run from this. But ultimately, you have to look back at what God chose to do to reveal his life.

love for us. That's how we got to understand love. And you think back the words that Jesus spoke in the garden, made this cup pass from me, but not my will be done, but yours. I mean, he was saying that for our benefit. I mean, that's why he said it. That's why he said it when he was in the garden, you know, in Luke. When people abuse you with speech, just learn to smile and you don't hold it against them. Just move on. You know, love just. joy, peace, patience, kindness, and listen, goodness, faithfulness, gentle, self-control. You say, goodness is always in there. But you wouldn't know, you wouldn't have a basis for goodness if you didn't understand God's love.

And in 1st John 4-8, you know, he says, whoever does not love does not know God. and to bring up my former point about that, there's a difference in knowing God and knowing about God. Oh. Difference in growing, you know, or you know, thinking you should get better and then tasting that the Lord is good, you know, experiencing it in your everyday life.

But it says because God is love. He just is love. I've used this verse many times when people, you know, will say, well, God doesn't love. I feel like God doesn't love me or God doesn't love them or, you know, there's some God loves and there's some. Or how could God love them? Yeah.

And then go through what you're going through. Oh, he just is. Which is quite a statement. God just is love. Which it's hard for us to wrap ourselves around that. But so that's why the next statement says, this is how God showed his love among us. he sent his one and only son into the world that we might live through him. So he put him on a cross, you know, he suffered.

This is how he showed us. And so then he makes this interesting statement in 10, which is then about perspective. This is love. Not that we love God, but that he loved us and sent his son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. So I think he's giving you the perspective that we should have when it comes to suffering. This is not something we conjured up in a way to try to escape trials and tribulations. I mean, John is real clear on this. He is love.

He defined love for us so that if you're ever going to be good, if you're ever going to have, you know, a result of this, it's going to come from that basis to do good, which I think is what he's. setting up here so he says for christ in verse 18 died for sins once for all the righteous for the unrighteous to bring you to god i love that praise he was put to death in the body but made alive by the spirit now then we get into some of the the he interject something that there's been more debate about and and based on my research very few people can agree on exactly what this means but don't be distracted from the overall point here because you know Jesus is our model and God's plan over why we endure suffering for the Lord remember leading into it what what Jason's about to say is the last thought here the spirit exactly

And then through whom? So the big point is this is the Spirit of God is what he's talking about. So whatever we get into beyond that, don't lose that point. He was put to death in the body, Jesus, made alive by the Spirit. By the Spirit. Don't forget that. Through whom, which would be the Spirit. Spirit.

He went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the Ark was being built. In it, only a few people, eight and all were saved. through water. And this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you. It's not the removal of dirt from the body, but it's the pledge of a good conscience towards God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand with angels, authorities, and powers in submission to Him. So do you want to discuss what people think that is, or do we want to stick to the thing. Well, I think we should, yeah, for sure, because there's a lot of, what, what debate over

what happened, what possible to happen. They're like, wait a minute. So basically, he's talking about suffering, submission. Jesus is the model for what happened. He died for our sins. And then all of a sudden, he's like, he makes this analogy, the spirit of what happened in Noah's Day. And everybody remembers what happened.

Noah's Day. And when you think about the context, which I would submit, is suffering. Well, you can imagine the suffering that Noah went through for how long did it take you to build the art? Over 100 years. Yeah, back then, in those days, they were living a lot longer than we are now. So just think about this.

This was very near the beginning. People were living eight and 900 years. Only eight people, which were members of his family, thought this was a good idea. I'm pretty well assuming that everyone else thought he was crazy. He was a nutcase and just hailed down insult over insult. Because you got to remember, it had never even rained. There were these. It's one thing to predict it's going to rain.

It's another thing to predict it's going to rain when you're on the earth, and it's never rained before. Only watering that was happening with these mist that would come up. So when he's talking about a big rain coming to flood, This was fake news. According to the Hebrew writer, by faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, we've got a big water coming.

In holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith, he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. One event, you're like, y'all are going to need a boat. you all need to quit hollering at me because I'm telling you there's a big water coming they say you talk about an idiot I mean who would have thought well so so now remember just to set the narrative straight God told him to build the boat and told him exactly how big to build it what to do so this was a word this was a word big boat now look here's so here's my

thing getting back to we're taking a time out from the nest the uh the uh the uh the The point of Peter, just to, because people want to know. And look, I've often thought about these verses. And look, when you go to look at scholars and commentaries, they're all over the place. Well, they're all over the place, the ones that comment, but there's very few to choose from. Most people, the people where I get all my information and thoughts,

I have three, top three, nothing. no one just skip moved on what was that other we were just on something recently and they said oh the first period three the earlier in that chapter with the wives the wives the husband said well they just skip the entire chapter three it's just like we don't need that and they skip it all the way down to four six because chapter four six which we'll get to has another very hard to understand it and i'll go ahead and read it since we're going to take the time out it says for this is the reason the gospel is preached even to those who are now dead so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body but live according to God in regard to the spirits because people say oh wait which actually

to me that thought kind of ties back to the same idea here so here we go so here's what i'm going to give you off the top of my head if i can remember there's not very many views on what this actually means surprisingly. So the one I'm more leaning toward, and look, if I claimed I knew what this meant, I would be a liar because I'm not real sure what he meant by this and why he inserted that in there. It's an odd illustration to me. But since he's made, I should have warned you're, I could be wrong sure today. Yeah, well, I could be wrong on this. I'm really not giving an opinion. I'm just going to give you the options. But you will have to agree that the, context is suffering. That's why I went on that rant about Noah suffered.

When you, even though he didn't really get into that, he used the parallel. And it is a salvation context because he was preaching a salvation message. You either listen to what's going to happen or you're all going to drown. Well, what does it say about Noah? He was a preacher of what, of righteousness. That's right. And we're talking about God's righteousness and suffering for doing what's right. He suffered for doing what's right. Was he right or wrong? He was right. We have an illustration, and there's an illustration of faith through this water that God provided that condemn the world, but it also saved Noah because it floated the boat, the same water that destroyed everybody else. That's why this gets a little deep.

And so. No pun intended. Exactly. I was trying to intend one. So then you get into baptism, which then people say, well, it's a symbol, but actually, if you're, you. you read the verse carefully, it says the water symbolizes baptism. Because it's not taking a bath. He's very clear on that. You're not going and do it. There's nothing you can do to save yourself. There's no soap out there and shower that you're

going to take your sins because we know what saves a person, Jesus Christ, period, exclamation point. So you're telling me they don't make salvation soap? They don't make salvation soap. So here's the choices. The number one and the one I'll toward is when it says the spirit by whom he preached, I believe under the spirit of God, Noah was helped in preaching 100 years of righteousness despite incredible opposition. And so I actually think that's what the reference is. When it says by whom he, I don't think Jesus, because option number two is, Jesus during

in between his death and resurrection The three days. And look, I'm not, just because I'm leaning toward the first one does not mean that I am opposed to the second one. I want to be clear. I already said,

I'm not sure exactly what he meant, but I'm just giving you the options. Option two is that Jesus in the spirit, in quotation marks, entered the Hadesian world, Hades of where spirits go after you die. You can call it a waiting place, a Shio. We don't grasp all of that because we're all living.

We haven't experienced that. We've heard stories, but there's a period or a place, period and a place where we go. Because you remember the analogy in Matthew where he said about the resurrection. Remember when the woman came up and said, I think it's Matthew 20. If she had been married seven times at the resurrection, who would she be married to? And Jesus said, you're ignorant because you don't know the scriptures of the power of God. But he makes a statement that says to God all are alive.

And we also read, maybe you'll know off the top of your head, there'll be a resurrection of the righteous and the wicked. John 5. John 5. 28. So the reason I'm bringing all this up is there's a place you go to. Now, some people believe that Jesus went there and preached something. It really doesn't make sense to preach the good news because, I mean, what are they?

So people then go to option three. I mean, they're like he preached something. option three is what he gets into in second peter which is this angelic world spirits being put into dungeons or prisons to be bound for the day of judgment which is in second peter it's in second peter three and we'll get to that i guess we're doing second peter after first peter right so we'll get into that so i think i've covered the three uh possibilities unless you can think of another one No, I think that's right. And I will add this, and we're almost out of time. So we're going to flesh this out a little bit. As you're contemplating which option you may choose as a listener, we're going to discuss that a little bit more in overtime. I will throw in there, Ephesians 4. Sometimes this adds into that, which I don't think it really references the same, but some people tie it together. Ephesians 4, 8 that says there's a quote from Psalm 68, he ascended on high he led captives in his train and gate gives to me. men and then Paul's talking and this is a totally different context of verse 9 what does he

ascended mean except that he also descended to the lower earthly regions he also descended to the very one ascended higher than all the heavens so some people have said that paul's reverence and i'll just before we go to overtime i'll just say that when you you throw in verses like luke 16 and you remember the it was a parable using real people with that the rich man uh Yeah, Lazarus, you get a picture that if you start believing option two or three seems to be in contrast here. Because remember the guy said, well, look, there's a great, I mean, I can't, I'm trapped. There's a chasm I can't cross.

Well, yeah, so all of a sudden, we're crossing the chasm somehow. And so which is why I lean toward option one, which I think, you know, Peter chose to reveal that through the Holy Spirit that there was a connection and what Jesus did in his day in bringing about a new era, which is why I think in chapter 7, you're going to see a phrase that's also controversial. The end of all things is near. But you also see that related to the era that changed at Noah and the ark.

Well, look, that was a big time in history. It wasn't like he just plucked Noah out for no reason. The whole earth was destroyed, which some people said, well, it was just a local flood. But okay, okay. But even if it was... All of humanity was destroyed either way. So, all right.

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