Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 642 | Jase Got Hacked! What Made Willie Cry & the Movie Sneak Peek for a Lucky Few

Episode Date: March 5, 2023

Jase’s Twitter account got hacked, and it’s taking a bigger toll on his life than he thought it would! Phil is critical of all social media, of course. Zach gave some Liberty University students a sneak peek at "The Blind” movie. The guys are moving along to the book of 2 Peter, giving an overview of the three chapters in it. Al and Jase debate the controversy surrounding the writing of 2 Peter, and the guys discuss false teachers and evil forces. Plus, what made Willie cry in a room full of people? In this episode: 2 Peter; Acts 17, verse 28; Psalm 103; John 21 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right, welcome back to Unashame. Zach, we were talking about on the last podcast that you had been to Liberty. And with Will and Corey, I'd gotten a text from one of my buddies from downside, Louisiana. I guess his son was checking Liberty out. And he was like, someone is blowing duck calls on stage at convocation this morning. Who was that? I don't know.

He said it was a student. What was the deal with that? Somebody was blowing that guy. Well, you know, it wasn't Willie blowing a duck call. No, I knew. And then he said Willie and Corey here. And then I, so I was confused. I was like, I don't know what's happening.

And it was like, they were sitting up there. Some guy in the audience was like, man, bang, bang, man. He's blowing the duck call. Jonathan Falwell, who runs the convo thing. Was that a duck call? And so they, some kid out there in the audience. So Willie called him his mulleted, his mulleted friend because the kid had a big mullet. And he said, yeah, he, come on now.

So the guy came down there and he did the whole feed call. He did the little, you know, he said he had brought, he was a big fan. So he had brought a duck call, had all the shirt, you know, the duck commander's shirt on. And they got him on stage and he got to blow the duck call. Well, I did. I had another guy, Jay, is one of our listeners. I think he's from the, I think he's from north of Memphis. sent me a note asking if I'd get you to sign something.

There was a six-year-old kid, and his name is Jace, probably named after you. He won a duck call contest, six years old, and so he wanted me to get you to sign something for this kid and send to him. But he's winning contest now at six. I thought it was a big contest. It was 120 kids or something in this contest. I said, well, that's pretty impressive now. His future looks bright.

His future looks bright. We had a weird thing happened yesterday. We got on our last flight, and the captain came out to give a speech, and he was wearing a duck commander hat. Really? He was making all these jokes about, you know, flying in to Monroe, Louisiana, where things fly, and sometimes they don't. And he was going to wing it. And he was making all these subtle jokes. Like all these pun.

It was a bunch of puns. It was a bunch of pun. Jelp leaned over and said, I mean, this is all full. funny unless this is not a great flight. And so I said, this is kind of weird. I thought it was a, you know, you're traveling with TV people. And I thought it was some kind of prank by the TV people. No.

Yeah, like a setup. Yeah, when we landed, he was like, so then he was there to greet us still had the Duck Commander hat on. Did you take a picture with him? Oh, yeah. He said, I was wondering if we could get a picture. So. He was a fan.

Yeah, and so then, but we were like the first people off, so when he said, well, the pitcher, I was like, yeah, step on out here. But nope, he had to greet everybody, so then we had to wait until everyone got off. And he was like, let me call my wife real quick, you know. And Jet was like, well, we really got to go. I said, no, call his wife, you know. We did the video call. So, because I thought you never know when you need a good pilot.

No, that's right, because you may wind up on his plane again. So you want that to be, you want him to be happy. Kind of crazy, you know. But I've never done that before. I was like, well, it happened. We want our palace to be happy. And by the way, for all you social media people, if you see me on some social media account selling something, you know, for $100. And please don't be that gullible.

Obviously, someone has hacked my account. And we were just talking about that. But I just thought, what struck me about that? Or if you see dad selling CBD. My son sends me a text at 6 o'clock this morning. He's like, Dad, someone's hacked your Twitter account. They're selling computers that you are signing for $600. And I was, because he was like, you need to do something about this now.

Of course, you can't, whoever did that lock me out. Of course. So I can't go fix it. And so I'm like, are we this gullible in our society that, because I read it, you know, a person on my team sent me the screenshot because it just says and we'll donate it to charity. Yeah. I'm like, are we this gullible that I'm sell? I'm in the computer business now and I'm selling, you know, all these signed copies of this computer

that they've obviously stolen. And we're just going to donate. Trust me when I tell you, they're not sending out any computers. Yeah. I mean, they're just, well, you know, it happens on the podcast. You'll get on YouTube. We probably should clarify this. And then they'll have, I always know it's, well, I know it's fake because it's not us doing it.

But you can know that it's fake when Phil's commenting on every single post and trying to drive you somewhere else, go to this site. You know, don't do it. It's not Phil. I don't care if it has this picture on it. It's not us. It's not anybody who has the organization. But, yeah, they'll try to, I guess they try to drive people into these suck holes where they can, you know,

extract money from them. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if we need to address it. I think common sense applied should know that it's a scam. Well, yeah, because I've gotten notes from people before and there's some, you know, I'm so disappointing your dad. I just never thought he would be selling marijuana. Well, I get a weekly.

Come on, man. I don't answer it when my friend send me a text and say, you know, heard about sigh, you know, hey, I'm sorry for your loss. And I don't even respond. RIP. I mean, I just got one from one. from one of our good friends this past week. I just did, you know, let us know if we can do anything.

Because I'm assuming they read somewhere on the internet. Like, don't you think that you would know from us in a way that was just obvious reality? Yeah, then just reading some, you know, Facebook posts under, you know, in the comment section. That somebody was going to. But your Twitter, your Twitter was, Yeah, that's what got hacked, right, Jay's just from Twitter account. Twitter account got hacked. So the moral of the story is don't purchase an Apple computer signed by Jace for $600.

Is that the price of the whole thing? Yeah, $600? Yeah, it was $600 a pop. Pretty good pop. I didn't know my signature. I was actually flattered that someone thought that they would buy something with my signature on it for $700. Well, the computer is $5.99, Jays. The signature was worth $1.

No, if it's an Apple computer, it's $1,200. They actually discounted your signature. He said it was a MacBook. I don't know what that is. If they're selling MacBooks for $600 with your signature on it, then they actually do value your signature. So it's a scam. Hopefully by the time, if they haven't resolved the situation by the time this airs, do not do it.

So, Zach, did you show the, did you show any of the movie to any of the people at Liberty while you were there? You said you had some film students. Yeah, we did a, we showed it to the film students. So they have a theater there. So we got in there and they put myself, Jill, my wife, Willie and Corey and Cole on the front row. So about half, oh, and Little Will was with us too. But I don't know, about 10 minutes into the film, Willie gets up and I thought he walked out. And I'm like, because he hasn't seen, he hasn't seen any, he saw one cut at the very beginning.

And, uh, and it's come a long way since then. So he got, he got up and walked out. And I was thinking, man, that guy, he can't sit through anything. I was just sitting there. But I didn't realize that he had actually gone to the back because he couldn't see it. And, uh, so he's, he does, he does put the A and D and ADD. Oh my gosh, man. I mean, I've never seen anything like it.

It's, I mean, I thought he's outside. You know, I got something to eat. Now, you know, while we fought so much as kids. No, I get it. I get it. Couldn't take it. You can't just sit in one place and behave. But he did sit through the movie.

He just sat in the back. And then, so then they called us all back on stage after the movie was over. And this was not like the full. This is what they call a locked cut. So it didn't have all the sound in it and all the music. But it, you know, we're showing it to film students. So they get this. And so Willie gets back on stage.

And, of course, he's like, I mean, he's in tears. Well, he's like, man, my allergies are, you know, cutting up and, you know, kind of thing. But he said, I got, I was sitting there and he said, I was trying not to cry. He said, but then I heard the whole road behind me crying. And I was like, and he said, then I lost it. And for him, I think he said, you know, it helped me understand a lot, you know. And it's such a good movie of hope. I mean, it really is a hopeful movie.

I mean, it's, I think we go there. I think we, the Kay said something earlier that we were telling it like it really happened. I think we capture it, but I think it's, when you watch the end of it, you got to get to the end of it. You know, it's, it is the most authentic gospel presentation, I think, that's ever been put in a movie. I mean, it is, when you see it, you're going to be like, man, that is, it just seems real. So they loved it. I mean, they said zero cheese factor. They said it was, I mean, the guy who runs the film department there was like, man, this, you guys, you didn't make the picture.

Seems real because it was real, right? Oh, yeah. It's like, I mean, that's what they said. How did you write the script and all this stuff? And, you know, we had several writers involved. I said, honestly, you know who wrote the script was Phil and Kay. And we sat down with them. And, I mean, it's pretty much verbatim.

I mean, Phil, you didn't get a writing credit. I apologize, but you probably should have negotiated that because, I mean, it's all your stuff. Yeah. No, but it's the idea in his act that what's happened is, you know, movies about people's lives that people remember. I mean, the really, you know, powerful ones, the reality, the grit of it is, you know, it's not necessarily, you don't think of those in the Christian realm, except I would argue for the passion, which showed the reality of Christ. And, I mean, I thought Gibson captured that. And of course, it's brutal. I mean, it's a hard watch.

Yeah, it's pretty brutal. You know, but, but it's also just, I mean, it captures it. And so not to compare this movie to that, but I'm saying the idea of a Christian film being, you know, grounded in the reality of mom and dad's life, I think is what you guys were shooting for. And it sounds like hopefully that's what's people are getting from it that have seen it so far. Is that a fair take? Yeah. Yeah, I think, I think so. I think that's why we're going to need.

like a lot of people to kind of come out and help us with it in terms of like our you know, the people who would keep up what we're doing because one of the, the best compliment we got was the guy got up on stage and he said, man, he was just, he just kind of stopped for a second. He's like, wow. He's just like, wow. He said, you know, we watch every single Christian movie that's ever been done. We screen them here, you know, obviously.

And he said, this movie is different because he said, it doesn't feel like a Christian film. And he said it feels like a mainstream film with a Christian worldview. And that was like the biggest compliment to me because that's what we want to tell, you know, we want to do art in a way that that really moves people. And not that Christian films will do that because they do. But I'm, you know, there's some very powerful Christian films out there. We didn't quite want to get boxed in like that just because I think this is an evangelistic film. And one of the things that one of the little girls asked is,

So how do you tell about this kind of darkness and still glorify God? And I was like, you know, if you read the Bible, and I mentioned I didn't read the passage, but I said, if you go to Ephesian, I mean, Ezekiel chapter 23, there is very vivid language used to describe these sisters that were lusting after the Assyrian warriors. And it's very, very graphic language. It's very, I mean, it's disturbing. You can read it. Read Ezekiel chapter 23. You will be shocked.

if you don't know what's in there of how explicit the Bible can get. And it's painting this picture of depravity. It's showing sin for what it is. And so I think that what we want to do when we tell stories about, you know, gospel-centered stories, a big part of the gospel is talking about the fall. And the fall, we shouldn't whitewash it to make it sound like it's something that's not. I mean, it's a dark place. But when you see that, then I think that it makes the grace.

I said this in the last episode by referencing Paul in Romans chapter 1 and 2 and 3 is when you see how bad we can be, then you also see how good God is when he redeems us out of that. And so I think that was kind of the arc that we wanted to take with the film. And I think we got there. So it's exciting. Yeah, so that's the blindmovie.com. If you want to check that out to get the updates and that kind of stuff. So come in September, just as a reminder.

So let's take a break. So we're moving on to 2nd Peter today. And we kind of referenced it the last time we closed out first Peter. And I thought today by way of just kind of getting into it, this book is different. And it's probably not written too long after. There's some controversy of the authorship just because it's really, It's written differently than the first one. Most scholars think that Peter wrote this in his own hand because it's written quite differently.

It's not nearly as eloquent as First Peter is. And so most people that study this sort of thing, because, you know, we don't dive too much into the scholarly aspect of it. But most scholars think that the difference is that, you know, Silas helped write the first. And Peter was not a scholar. I mean, we know that. He was a fisherman. But he was there. He was, you know, he witnessed everything that he saw.

And so the first book, he obviously had helped writing it. This book, it seems like from what the scholars tell us is that he wrote this one himself. And so it's not quite as put together as well. A lot of people have said he didn't write it because it's so different. Someone wrote it like maybe a couple of centuries later. So that's the first two words are Simon P. Well, that's the thing.

I mean, the thing is, if you. gave it away. If you buy into it. I kind of lean that way up. They're saying somebody could have put. That's what they say. The problem is if you go down that road that somebody else wrote this, and here's the reason they say it, because it's a book, here goes out, here's your word, if it's a

book about because he's the second coming, because of the third chapter, you know, because they're worried because it hasn't happened yet. So in other words, they're worried about this. So the theory is, is that someone wrote this. a couple hundred years later because everybody's like, well, I hadn't Jesus come back yet. Yeah. So some third century Christian leaders wrote this book in Peter's name because they're trying to quiet the, you know, the church down.

So the problem is when you do that and put Peter's name, well, you're basically saying the Christian, you know, the Christian church is now writing books and attributed to people earlier, that's not a road we want to go down when we're talking about the Word of God that people just willy-nilly start writing books and attributing it to other authors. And you've got to keep in mind, too. There actually was a book written that was what's called a spurious document, which means it was a fraud. It was a fraudulent gospel, I think it was the gospel of Peter that was circulating, but it was quickly identified from the early churches being not a true gospel.

So there were works that were attributed to Peter that weren't necessarily Peter's work. They weren't necessarily. They weren't his work. So to me, I think that that may have come out. You know, I think that would have been identified by the early church if this wasn't. If God made it possible for us to read about his son and how he appeared, born of a virgin, died on a cross, buried in a tomb, and raised from the dead. If he wants to get that information out through various entities,

you can't stop him, and it is what it is, the word of God. That's my opinion. Correct. Somehow these thugs got in and throw this in there. I'm saying the Almighty said, no, no. He could keep that from happening like that. And the only reason I bring it up is because you're going to read stuff like, some of our audience will dive deeper into this,

and you're going to read stuff like this. But remember, Dad's right. the Holy Spirit has guided, as we will read in this first chapter, is correct, has guided this through the annals of time, including the last 2,000 years. And when Simon Peter signs his name at the beginning of this book, we know that he wrote the book. And so I believe he wrote it in his hand.

It's funny, I mean, because like early on in my faith, you know, I had all these just hundreds of Bible studies, just one-on-one. And, of course, you'd run upon inevitably. people who didn't believe this is the word of God. So I would read 2nd Peter 118. I've read it hundreds of times. We did not follow cleverly invented stories

when we were told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus, but we were eyewitnesses. And then it goes on to say, in verse 20, above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. for prophecy never had its origin in the will of man but men spoke from god as they were carried along by the holy spirit

and they always said every time yeah but that's what they would write if they were you know so it was like but we don't believe that because why wouldn't they say that but so that's just a person yeah peter mentioned in chapter one concerning this salvation the prophets who spoke of the grace that was to come to to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. It was revealed to them, but they were not serving themselves, but you, it's coming later, when they now told of you by those who have preached.

You got in front of your mic. Preach the gospel to you by the heaven, by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. even angels longed to look into these things. Yeah, that's first Peter one. I'd say God got it right. Yeah. That's exactly right. And again, he's made that clear all the way through it.

So the overview, there's three chapters in this letter, and really not because it was just one letter, but it's been broken down into three channels. We said that many times. The people added the numbers just for. Yeah, it's just one letter. There's three themes is the best way to say it. in your Bibles, it looks like three chapters, but it's three themes. And the first one is sort of an exhortation to spiritual maturity is what I would call it. That we're going to deal with in the first.

Maybe spiritual growth. I mean. Yeah, spiritual growth. There you go. Spiritual maturity, spiritual growth. And this, this is a continuation from the first letter, I would say, wouldn't you, Jay. I mean, it's going to carry right over from the first letter. The last podcast I brought up that.

at 1 Peter 2, where he said, moving on as infants craving pure milk in chapter 2. In fact, you know, it's interesting, Jace, because we were talking about, because I'm doing some video in later today for a series on parables that our church is doing, and we were talking about the purpose of parables, which Mike and I are doing a thing today for that. It was really interesting because it was going back and looking at Jesus doing the parables. And our study, we were talking about in 1st Peter, something new we learned about our studies. And when I got to this section of the 2nd Peter, I had never thought about it before. But you know, when Jesus was teaching those parables and the disciples were there,

you had all the ones about the parable, the sower, and all these things where you had the seed being the gospel, and I am the vine, and you are the branches, and all these different parables. When you see this section like here in 2 Peter chapter 1, later John does the same thing in 1st, John 4 and tells us about the love, you know, God is love. It was really interesting because you're watching 20, 30, and 40 years later these kind of now wise and disciples who first learned about those parables, now you're seeing the growth factor of those ideas about the seeds and the fruit. being born out because when he when he's talking about some of the qualities here from chapter one about what it looks like when this thing when this grows into full born fruit I mean this is pretty amazing when you see this fruit being born out and grown oh no doubt well Annie says in the first verse depending on your translation to those who through the

righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as potent or precious as ours. I mean, he's acknowledging how powerful and potent or precious. I think potent is probably the best translation when I looked at this before. But he's saying you can have that. I tend to think we put these guys on a pedestal.

They were Tier 1 disciples because they were eyewitnesses. But he's right off the bat saying, yours is going to be just as potent. And that takes you back to the member of the John where he said, you've, where's that 21, where he said, you've believed because you've seen me. Jesus was telling that to Thomas, but he's like, bless the ones who haven't seen and yet still believe. So it's the same, there's no hierarchy in this. I mean, you remember the disciples struggle with who is going to be the greatest in the kingdom,

and which one we're going to sit on the right and the left. And so I love how Peter, which is a sign of how his faith is grown, that we're all on equal footing under the grace of God. Yeah. And so you see this idea. I love that idea of growth and how that goes. Let's take a break. So the reason you have this idea about spiritual growth in this first chapter,

and then the idea about why you need to understand that all this has come about as a result of prophecy and scripture, because then he's going to hit that second part of that idea is, because first you have this idea of fruitful growth, and then the second half of chapter one, he's going to give you the idea of the source of where that comes from in its scripture. And I think it's the last podcast. Was you talking about that about why we have to be reminded about where this comes from?

He, three different times in verses 12 through 15, he uses the word remind or remember. Three times, remind, remember. You remember these things. Let's see. Refresh your memory. So he keeps bringing that. We got to go back. We got to go back.

We got to go back. That's a great point. Because look, because we made the point closing first Peter that it was, it's based on grace. and this is more of an experience, what he's going to call a participation in the divine nature. Now, that phrase seems so complex that I think we miss, you know, the power. But as newborn babes in Christ, we are then allowed through the Holy Spirit to participate in the nature of God.

This is not something you took a class, over, you know, when we were saying, you're, you're going to participate in that. I mean, I like how first John says that we fellowship with him. I mean, there's a, you say fellowship. Yeah, because he tabernacles with us. I mean, I think that what you just, that phrase in the NASB, it says, his precious and magnificent promises so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust.

To me, it may be one of the most powerful phrases in the Bible is the idea that we can be participators and partakers in the divine nature. To me, I think we have to explore what that means because I think that, and I think it's just at the core of what Peter's talking about, I think it is the core of sanctification. I think it's the core of glorification. I think it's the core of everything. John Piper says, he has a sermon or a book, I think, called the gospel is God. And he impacts a lot of this idea.

But I think what, yeah, you're right, Jace. I hope we're going to dive into that phrase. That's why I was making a big point about verse one when I said, I felt the word should be translated as potent as our, you've received a faith as potent. What makes it potent is that you're participating in really God's DNA, I mean, or DNS, which would be, I guess, the divine nature spiritually. Because when you think about what he's saying here, we, you know, we all acknowledge that as believers that we were made by God.

I think everybody who claims to be a Christian acknowledges that. informationally. If you ask somebody, I mean, where'd you come from? Well, I believe there's a guy. But what he's saying is, and we call that DNA, you know, we look at DNA and we use it as an argument that this is evidence. There's a God. I've used that hundreds of times.

Who wrote the code? Who wrote this sophisticated code in each one of ourselves? There's a design that demands a designer. But what he's going to here is even bigger than that. Because he's saying by being born. and again, you're participating in God's DNA on the spiritual level. You actually have the nature of God from the spiritual level entering your body. It's really interesting because he's going to, after this reminder, he's going to go back

as his eyewitness account. And guess where he goes back to, he goes back to the transfiguration. Well, exactly. Well, that was my point. I got sidetrack. My original point is when you brought up the scriptures, and he was saying, though, you're participating in this, but it is based on truth.

There is a truth that this is, it's not just based on you like saying, oh, you know, let me just turn to a scripture. Y'all have seen people who do that and say, I'm going to see what God wants me to do since I have this relationship with. Well, what if you turn to the one that says, you know, Judas went and hung himself. Yeah.

Well, I know what you're going to do. You're going to go turn to another one. Yeah. You know what I mean? See, he's finding the one you want. My point is, that's not participating in the nature of God. That's you trying to fit God in your nature in your nature instead of, you know, of having, this is, that's why it's based on grace and you surrendering to. that is what I was getting getting to.

That might have been a poor illustration, but I'll think you see my point. Yeah, I mean, we want to, we, we, we tend to want to create God in our image as opposed to realize that we're created in his image and invited to participate in his nature, which if you start exploring the nature of God, that's when the, that's when, that's when, that's when things get hairy because, man, you start looking at what, like what God did, who is the sovereign power of all powers. I mean, this, you're the supreme being. And then, and then you think about what happened.

And we were talking about earlier in this episode about the passion of Christ. You think that God allowed that to happen to him. And so part of what we're participating in is that. But I think it's deeper than that because God is fulfilled in and of himself. You know, I love that part. It makes me feel so good when I read Acts 17 in that line that says, God doesn't live in temples built by man's hands as if he needed anything. It makes me feel good to know that God doesn't, him being God is not contingent.

upon Zach Dasher, giving him praise or glory. He's God no matter what. Like, he is who he is, regardless of me. So you start to get this idea who he is. And so part of what we'll want to do as we kind of dive into this is figure out for partaking in the divine nature. Then the question I got is, what is the divine nature that we're participating in? I know it's not simply getting saved.

As Jace keeps bringing this up, I think it's key. It's not just getting justified because he says here at the very beginning. is more than that. He says grace, he says, verse two, verse one, he says, yeah, verse two, grace and peace be multiplied. Now think about that. Like, grace is not something that you receive one time and it's over. Like, like, there's a call here for grace to be multiplied and increased in your life, in our life, as we participate in the divine nature.

to me that's the part that like when you think about the entry point into your salvation at your justification that that's the entry point but it's not the end of god's grace it's just the beginning of god's grace well that was the point i mean you're making a point and we're i'm sure we'll get into this in detail in the first chapter but he also says like verse five add to your faith verse eight if you possess these qualities in increasing measure that's where we got the idea of spiritual growth, but it is based on truth and who God is, which ultimately, Jesus said, I am the truth. So there's a reason why you all swerved into the importance of this major point. And it's the second theme that he's going to get into, which is the second chapter,

is because, and this is the real purpose of the book, is because he's really addressing some false teachers. Now, this is why he's so aggressive in this book. He starts it off of this first chapter about spiritual growth and remember about why you got what you got, because apparently there's this whole idea of falsehood that's come in, and that's who he's really addressing it. And it still does today. It's the most difficult thing in Christianity is because what the world zeroes in on are all the false teachers. Exactly. And you go back history of this country the last two or three hundred years, Well, a lot of the religious institutions were a lot of the troublemakers and oppressing people and based on where they were from

and doing exorcisms on, you know, the Native Americans. It goes all the way back to Sodom and Gamarro. Yeah. It's just, yeah, and it's unfortunate, but it doesn't. That's why a lot of people right there, Sodom and Gamarro, they said, no, we don't want to hear that. That's right. The mindset is what he's dealing with.

That's why I was making the point, when Zach brought up Acts 17, and that's a good place to go. But the Bible rarely says that, you know, it looks at it from God is the father of all, but it does in Acts 17. It's acknowledged that. Remember when it says, we are his offspring? We are. Everybody's made by God.

Yep. But then you have this special relationship with those who have put their faith and trust and their creator, and that's what John 1 addresses when he says he's given us the right to become children. And, you know, Jesus would further explain that. We're born again. And just like Peter zeroing in on that, First Peter, too. We grow up as babies. But everybody has to realize this is an organic thing that happened. We have God's DNA. We get to participate in it. But you still got to realize this is a process. If that's the illustration that they're using, and Jesus uses it, Peter uses it,

this is a process that you're journeying through, and you're having to overcome suffering, even though you've got your faith in God, you're having to overcome false teachers, false prophets, which is incredible. And I think the most frustrating process of being a Christian is when you see somebody, especially in your own group,

who is literally acting the exact opposite of the character of God, yet representing Jesus. I mean, it is horrifying. But guess what? It happens every day. It's just like I showed up and somewhere in North Mississippi, it's a packed house.

Look, I had nothing to do with that as far as trying to plant it. We're going to go over here somewhere in Mississippi and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that. Because we'll get a lot of people. I just looked up. They were all there.

and a jet aircraft got me there quick. And I'm looking around like, I mean, I never been there. And it was just a large crowd. Of course, it was a perfect setting to get the gospel preached. It was just perfect. And I had nothing to do with it. Other than someone watched this lifestyle and they saw that lifestyle and they said, that one.

That's what I'm saying? Yep. I just say, simply put, God erase it. Right. Saving little children. I mean, I'd say, what somebody's doing, the work of God over there. Right. Yeah.

But you also have an... It ties us all together. But you also have an expectation that the evil one would not want that to happen. That is correct. And so, therefore, there will be forces that line up to make sure that someone doesn't be impacted by that. Which is Peter. Insults and this and that and the other, they just come and go with the job. So his point when he gets into this second idea, which is why he's trying to prep him in the first idea, is that it's always been that way.

And to Jason's point, it always will be that way. And we're still going to be dealing with to this day. I talked about that with an event we were doing a few years ago in South Carolina. And some demoniac person serving of Satan by their own declaration had called into this center, this place we were going. and they said, we're praying with a full, you know, everything we've got in the name of Satan against your event, against your speakers, against us. And we all got sick. We had all kinds of issues.

I mean, these people were lining up. They were calling on the name of the evil one against us. But in the end, we were there. God rallied us. But to Peter's point, you know, there is falsehood. So he's going to deal with that. And then when we get to the third one, which is really interesting, he's going to bringing in this idea about the return of Christ. And so when we get there, it'll be really interesting

because we're going to talk about the second coming. We're also going to talk a little bit about this whole idea about end times because there's some interesting stuff about that because Peter's right up against 80, 70 and his own death, which is we're going to talk about that in the first chapter as well. So what is he talking about there? He's talking about judgment that's coming and being ready for it. And so that's kind of the idea. So the idea is that this falsehood is looming. It ends up, the whole thing goes into a ball of fire out.

Well, exactly. And he's going to talk about new habit or new earth. So it's really some interesting thoughts. But the idea is that judgment looms always, no matter where you are in time, whether it's end-time judgment or end-of-time judgment. So we're going to talk quite a bit about that. So you see the kind of the big theme that he lays out. You have to have spiritual maturity to be.

ready to face falsehood to be ready to face judgment. That's kind of where he's going with this theme. And the backdrop is looking at his own life because he's lived his whole life to this point. And especially for these last 30 years, ever since he encountered Jesus, that's kind of the theme of where he's at when he looks at it. So that's kind of the bigger picture. But there are some, what I would call some, as we talked about in the last, some key words and some key verses and themes that go along. And I'll look at a couple of those in our last few minutes that we have here. Some of them we've kind of already mentioned.

One of them is one that you already mentioned in that's verses two through four. Zach, you mentioned this. Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and Jesus, our Lord. So he's going to talk a lot about that, why it's important to know who he is. His divine power, verse three, has given us everything. we need for life and godliness through our knowledge there's mentioned it twice of him who called us by his own glory and goodness though these he has given us his very great and precious promises so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world

caused by human desire which he's going to mention quite a bit so that's when we're going to get into that first concept of purity which we're going to talk about that addition let's take another And then the second one is, I would say, is chapter two, verse one. And that's the idea about false prophets and false teachers. And he says they secretly introduced destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who brought them, bringing swift destruction. So who bought them? Who bought them?

Right. Bringing swift destruction on themselves. So we see kind of what the central theme there is, this idea about denying who Jesus is. Well, I make that point because a lot of people who do not believe in Jesus, they use this verse as something like horrific that, you know, God is buying, you know, human beings. It's like, I mean, look all.

But, you know, it was through his blood and innocent sacrifice and purchase them in a spiritual way. This is also a good verse. that, you know, when people say that there, you know, only God has determined just the few people that he's chosen, or he doesn't love everybody. Right. Even then, he got, God spilled his blood through Jesus for the very people who are heretics and are slandering him and does not believe him. Right.

Which I thought, you know, it was interesting that Peter used that phraseology. Right. which is it is interesting. And the third one is three, three, three, is the third thought. This kind of a key verse. First of all, you must understand the last days, scoffers will come scoffing and following their own evil desires, first forces. They will say, where is the coming?

He promised. Ever since our father's died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. Yep. So this idea about where is it? And is that talking about the end times? Is that talking about, you know, judgment that has been promised about 80, 70, which will kind of get into that? I'm not quite sure. I mean, how you would say something, but Peter used the phrase, but they deliberately forget that long ago by God's view.

He said, well, if you forget something, you just finally slipped your mind. But in this case, they hear what God has said. and they deliberately forget it. I mean, I never heard that phraseology before. How do you deliberately forget something? Well, that's one of the themes of Second Peter. It means you know it happened, but you deliberately forget it. Right.

I mean, if you want to read a parallel text, it's Psalm 103, because I think it's all about the same theme, forgetting. Jesus died for you, and I guess if you say, that didn't happen. You deliberately forget that. I mean, you say, no, I get that out of my mind. Yeah. Yeah, I think it has to do with discussions we've had earlier, too. We get into, like, Hebrews 6, we did Hebrews, and when we went through the blaspheme of the spirit,

it's this, it's the putting the fingers in the ears, and it's a deliberate, willful rejection of revelation and truth, which is revelation that comes from God, it means that God is revealing to us the truth about, about reality. And so particularly when you've tasted that. There's a lot of, I deliberately forget what you just said, there's a lot written about that. There really is. Well, you got Hebrews 6, you got Galatians 4. You have a mighty throne. You've got 2nd, you've got 2nd.

Yeah, there's a lot written about it. And I think we certainly will get into it as we unfold. We're kind of in that place right now. We're trying to get the overview. I just want to jump right in. But we're just trying to the overview right now. But yeah. Another thing that I thought was interesting was sort of the personal nature in 2nd Peter 1.13.

When he said, Peter says, I think he's right to refresh your memory. As long as I live in the tent of this body, because I know that I will soon put it aside as our Lord Jesus has made clear to me. And then he says, and I will make every effort to see that after my departure. You will always be able to remember these things. I thought that was interesting that there was a clarity there that Peter kind of goes back to that John 21 moment. You know, when Jesus, remember when he's told him, he said, there's going to come a time. you've been able to lead yourself around and, you know, put your own clothes on you, but there's going to come a time when someone else is going to do that.

And it's almost like in this moment of writing this last book, because this is the last book he wrote. There's no doubt about it. And it's like he kind of recognizes that when he puts that in there because he says, as the Lord has made clear to me, you know, that this is it. This is what I, this is what he was talking about. This is, I'm about to go. It's kind of like when Paul said, you know, I'm pouring out as a drink offering.

So it's like, I don't know, there's just a, I don't know, it's kind of a clarity to me when I'm reading that that he's like given his last will and testament sort of, you know. And he does it in such a warning way is what's, I don't know, sort of clashing to me, you know, just read this book or read this letter. Seala. Sele. See them. It just affected John so deeply. Well, when you get to the end of the podcast and you're like, I want to open up the can of worms?

Yeah, that's like, yeah. I mean. Well, I was reading that 103. I made that reference to it and I was making sure that was the right one. But it's a good read because he's going to say, if you want to keep your calling an election, sure. And when he gets into that and Phil's point, the opposite side of that is deliberately forgetting. Yeah. And I think it's more to it.

then we think I don't think it's like well how do you how do you forget that well you forget it because you don't want it interfering with your light or your agenda and we do the same thing with the gospel you you have it in your mind but if it's not at the core and at the center you actually forget it in your day-to-day life and I think that's what he's saying that once you start down that road that's what happened it's a scary thing you say we lost you feel you got to get in front of that mic hello second peter chapter 2 verse 3 in their greed you got y'all going to have to help me on this one in their greed these are false teachers and their destruction in their greed these teachers will exploit you

with stories they have made up their condemnation has long been hanging over them and their destruction has not been sleeping what exactly is you trying to say that jace well that's a good cliffhanger. That's a good cliffhanger for when we get there. Yeah, I'm telling you. Yeah, but he does explain it. And there are markers of false teachers that are, I do say, I will say this about the false teachers. I do think we should be a little cautious on throwing that label out there. I see it a lot, and I'm like, my gosh, man, where are you so quick to label someone as a false teacher? We grew up in a church faith tradition that you guys remember that. That was very quick to call out false teachers and false brothers and whatnot. I think the label is,

it should be reserved for, like, for certain people, but I think we shouldn't use it as broadly as sometimes I think we do. But I think that what's interesting about this whole, you know, this, this, this trajectory that Peter's on, when you think about what Phil said in the last podcast, I think it was last podcast about the reason why we do good works, it's the same kind of kind of that to why we don't sin and the warning against sinning. You don't just wake up one day and like, man, you know what? I'm going to, today I'm going to reject the Holy Spirit. I'm going to reject truth.

I'm going to like the nature of sin is that as you participate in it, what you're participating in is something that's not true. You're participating in a lie. You're taking revelation from God and you're saying, God, I don't believe what you're telling me to be true. I think you're a liar. I think you're holding out on me. And I'm going to go do this other thing.

And that's what sin is. It's just the rejection of the truth. It's just calling God a liar. So if I continue down that road, there is a point, and I think that some of this will mention it here, there's a point where you can't even see the truth anymore. And so the danger of sin is not that you'll sin too much to where God will say up. That's too many. I can't allow that many sins. I mean, there's no amount of sin a person can commit where God's blood is an effort.

efficacious enough to pay for it. The danger of sin is that it corrupts your mind. It corrupts what you think. It corrupts you. And it's like a cancer that grows in you, and it will change the way you see the world. And you will reject God. If you give yourself over to it, you won't even seem. It'll sound like foolishness to you.

And that's the motivation. Yeah, Peter makes the point. And 120, above all, you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. It's critical that a human being stand on that. For prophecy, never had its arson in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. That you better pay attention to, Peter said, but not on the rest of it, because then he goes into this, because of that greed, they come up with these stories. That's a bunch of bull. God's the one who appointed the right. He gives you the outline. He gives you the outline.

of where to watch out for. If they're denying the sovereign Lord, if they're following the sinful nature and they're despising authority, that should be the three red flags. That's why I get this book out of there. How they go? That's what we'll talk about.

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