Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 651 | Uncle Si Gets Shown Up by an 8-Year-Old Girl & Phil Gives Si Some Brotherly Advice
Episode Date: March 20, 2023Uncle Si and Jay Stone join the guys in the Lair! They give the inside scoop on their recent hunts, and Uncle Si denies rumors that he’s currently deceased! Stone outs Jase for something big he took... from Willie! He also details all the types of food he has learned to smoke. Uncle Si explains how he views God and the spiritual traits he’s working on in himself. "The Blind" hits theaters this fall. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right, so welcome back to Unashamed podcast. We have sent Jace out on assignment to find stories and do what he does.
So he's gone today. And we gave Zach the day off too. So Zach, he basically taunts Jace with his vocabulary.
And so I've sent him out to find a few more big words.
Jay says that he's not intimidated by Zax's vocabulary, but I think that's a bunch of hooey.
Nothing about Zach is intimidating.
That's what Jay says.
So since you're in his chair, I guess, don't.
So it's interesting.
So we got Stone and we got Sion today.
So we're super excited about that.
Welcome to Unashame.
Pleasure to be here.
Always good to have y'all.
So you're in Jace's seat.
And that's interesting because one of our listeners, and I think I,
Alex, it was a female listener, wasn't it?
So, because there's always a lot of back and forth with Jace and Stone, you know, usually not together.
But it's like you on your podcast, on a duck call room, talking about Jace, the fun sucker and all this stuff.
And so we get, so we have a lot of crossover listeners.
And so they'll send us stories that Jay is talking about Jays.
And so that'll pop up on here.
Well, then we get Jace's rebuttal talking about.
stone.
So finally, one of our listeners said, well, you know, we just need to settle this.
We need to have Stone come on.
And then we just need to have a good old fight.
Head to head.
Just a head to head battle.
Yeah.
And we just need to like a pay-per-view.
Yeah.
And we need to have it on, and to have a simulcast on Unashamed and on the Duck Car Road.
Are we talking about a verbal battle?
No, she wants a physical.
She wants a physical.
Okay.
Well, I can handle that.
But I will lose every time with a, in a verbal.
war with Jace Robertson.
You're not going to win that.
No, that's exactly right, because who can argue with him?
Nobody.
Well, Scyth does a pretty good job with it.
Yeah, he does.
Well, it's like arguing with a cypressump.
Okay.
You ain't getting much from the other side.
And he would say the same thing about you.
That's right.
Speaking of Jace, I got a good story to kick us off.
Because you're in the Jays chair.
I'm in the Jays chair.
It tends to lend a septum.
Phil, you would appreciate this.
You've done what I did a few days.
I've already told you.
So Willie wants to restock his pot.
And Jace is the reason for having to restock.
So we get out there in a boat.
And y'all used to have that old phone back in the day.
You'd crank out of the phone.
And then the old catfish would come up.
All bail.
Dad would always say, Stone, he would say,
because this was way back.
Statue limitation has run out now.
Dad would say,
we got to go make some long distance calls.
That's the way he would tell me.
Because we were speaking in code.
And I knew what that meant to get the dip net
because we had to go do a little long distance call.
That's what he would say.
Well, so Willie has already stocked 1,500 crappie in his pond.
But they were hybrids, so they don't reproduce so they don't overpopulate.
So we get in that boat.
they have tentacles coming out the front of that boat generator, crank it up.
Well, we're going around the edge and shocking all the fish up.
You know how many crappie we shocked up?
One.
And the whole pile, we shocked up 100 bass, one crappie.
And it was big bass, right?
Oh, yeah.
So they literally, Jace called all of them.
Jace called all but one.
All but one.
He's literally caught every croppy out of that pond.
And he's probably still been after that one for every for a while.
And, but he'll slip down there.
I've seen him do it right before dark where he thinks Willie's not watching.
But Willie's watching.
He literally caught every crop he out of there and ate him.
Well, the boy grew up fishing.
Okay, so I.
No, but now he's pretty good at it.
Plus he's doing it legally.
He's got some kind of bait though now.
Oh, yeah.
He got a jig pole and a jig, you know.
Yeah.
He's not doing it illegal.
So what's the problem?
You had them all.
They don't reproduce.
Jace caught them all.
Well, the problem is they don't belong to him.
They belong to Willie.
Well, when you blood can within, you live within a few hundred yards of each other.
All right.
Everything that God created is fair game.
Fair game, okay.
Fair game.
Well, except for one.
There's one little minute detail here, though, because you have to pay for these.
Yeah.
You have to pay for these.
to stock them.
So at the front end, which, Dad, you can appreciate this because you kind of had to get
on some of this idea over here with the paying for the fuel to, you know, you did it for a long
time.
And then these last few years, you're like, okay, boys, we're all on this together.
Yeah.
At what point do we, like, do this together?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your share.
Where is your share?
So we're doing this together.
So I think that's the conversation.
Willie is now having with Jay's on the front end.
if we're going to enjoy the bounty.
That came out of when the gas prices got up there about, you know,
diesel got up at five, six dollars a gallon.
That's when I started saying, we need to come together here, you know.
This fuel is taking on new meaning.
We're burning it up, the other 500-gallon diesel, you know.
That's a pretty good lick.
We're enjoying the bounty together.
We've got to enjoy the stocking.
Get your fuel bill, and it's $7 or $8,000.
But the problem is...
Just chase a duck or a deer.
Jace has now created this whole thing, because we've heard on the podcast many times.
He's got his whole courtship and marriage tied into these fishing exploits.
Y'all hadn't heard all this.
We hear it all time.
Dad and I hear on the podcast.
He's got his whole romance of Missy tied into going over and catching the...
these fish and coming home and he's and then the cleaning of the fish and it's a whole song and
yeah hey this is a big thing oh it is it is he he makes it sound like don juan i mean you got
you got some people buy flowers and cards and all this jace has this whole thing it's it's like
what they called it the uh the aphrodisiac of croppy and he makes this whole big deal about it
It's quite the story the way he lays it out.
So I don't know what he's going to do with that one Cropi over there
because he's fishing to go lean for a while.
Those are a pond-raged Cropi.
Back in the day when I was fishing for a living,
I would have days about March,
which is right now you start noticing it.
But if you've got them hook nets up against too close to the bank,
where they're just under the water,
four or five feet of water,
water. I would, it's against the law to sell game fish like that.
Right.
Cropi.
So I had to just dump them back.
But if you started making a mountain out of Cropi in the Westall River, you would have a mountain
hundreds of feet tall.
I mean, it was, I mean, it'd be a couple hundred pounds, all Cropy, pretty things you've
seen, just dump them right back out where you'd call.
them moved the net out further where you're, you know, you're on the run.
They would run the river back.
Yep.
This time of year.
It was ridiculous.
They're going to spawn eventually, but no one had ever seen that many cropy.
But in that pond, pond raise, that's a little different deal there.
You can raise them.
I don't then catch them with whatever, I guess, you know, put your own property.
Phil, just out of curiosity, when it's time to collect money for the fuel and everything,
who's the most difficult to get the money out of?
All of the ones got the most money.
That's why they may have most of them.
Oh, well, y'all pick up that field bill for me.
I'll check you all later.
But dad's got pretty good at reminding them, though.
He reminds him pretty rigor.
I noticed.
What's funny is dad will bring it up.
I noticed, like, he'll wait until we get on the.
air.
So he shames them in public.
Then you got to do something bad because he just mentioned in front of a few
hundred thousand pieces.
Hey, put him on the spotlight.
That's exactly right.
Put him under the light.
Which is good.
But we do it all.
It's not like anybody gets, you know, get the tail feathers ruffle up about it.
No.
Well, they got plenty of money.
They need to chip.
Oh, yeah.
What are they going to do with it?
That's right.
Jay said he's got, he's mostly got size money from poker anyway.
So what are you going to do?
That's another one of his big tall tails.
He's got many.
He's good at it.
So tell me about since we've had your own, it's been a while.
Because y'all are, y'all do a lot of trips and stuff.
Y'all, don't do any interesting hunting trips.
I don't think we've talked to y'all since last hunting season.
J'all go anywhere interesting.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know.
Or kill anything interesting because y'all usually do a trip or two.
Oh, yeah.
We try to take as many trips as we can.
Our favorite place goes down in the marsh in Venice.
with Josh,
with a cat and gall down there.
But,
you know,
Sae turned into a deer hunter.
I know it.
He don't duck hunting anymore.
I know.
I duck hunting three times this year.
A duck hunting all three times.
But, I mean,
I've actually got me into a manager,
deer management.
So you're a deer manager.
Yeah,
I'm a manager now.
You know,
we just sit there and watch how my way,
you know,
with the,
this year,
you know,
Like, I don't remember when it was, but how are we going?
He says, okay, old man, there he is.
You know, look him over him, tell me if you're going to shoot him or what are you going to do?
You know, and it was a purdy deer, purdy buck.
You know, and I said, you know, I looked at him.
He's about 65, 70 yards.
I said, well, Stone, you're not going to believe him.
I said, I'm going to let him walk.
He's not old enough.
He's only four.
And hey, this joker has.
It was like this.
Oh, the biggest buck I've ever seen on this property.
Yeah.
He didn't kill him.
He let him walk.
And he told Willie about it, and Willie said, well, we'll let him hunt a couple more years.
That's right.
Since he said that.
He said, keep taking him.
Yeah.
The backwater's up right now, and it's pushing the deer out to the little higher ground.
But I saw three different bunches of deer about a couple of weeks.
weeks ago, old Dan was with me.
And the bunches of deer was like 25 to 40.
Oh yeah.
Just all running together.
But I didn't see any bucks.
I mean, there's just a lot of deer.
But the more bucks even, the horns have already dropped there.
But they probably, horns have already dropped.
But I was looking, I told Dan, I said,
it's a long time since I've seen that many bunches with that many deer.
A lot of little with deer, like one here.
year old, you know, back last fall.
But there was some deer out there.
I mean, they were running in every direction.
Water's got them all stirred up, you know.
I went to Michigan, like two weeks ago.
You know, about two foot of snow on the ground.
And like you tell me, everywhere you look, there was 40 and 60 deer,
just, you know, to just gather together because of the, you know, the snow.
And then then next thing you look, here's 60 turkeys.
and they're on people's porches.
You know, actually, you know, picking up breadcrumbs or something like, yes.
I don't know, but they was in people's yard, old porches.
I said, good grief.
They don't do that much down in here.
Oh, no.
Oh, no, it was, it was wild, you know.
Just, they was everywhere.
And I said, boy, y'all got a good turkey population up here and a good deer population.
You know what amazes me when Phil talks about when he, when you first showed up down here,
you could not find a deer track anywhere.
We didn't see any deer down there.
We were, I was during college, my college days,
that had been in the mid-60s.
But leading up to that, leading up to 64,
there was not a track, a deer track in the woods.
And I mean, we were people.
None.
We lived in the woods there.
And if a deer had walked by and left the track,
we'd find it, but no deer.
But they started stocking them pairs.
and, you know, all over Louisiana, went up north and got them, brought them back down here
and started just dumping out a pair here and a pair there, different parishes.
And we just looked up in a period of about a decade.
And, I mean, it was like, so I guess all the pioneers, when they were going across, you know,
unloading on these rivers heading west, I guess they just, I know they're just, I know they're
bound to have been deer there, but they literally killed them all.
Hunting them out?
You know, we think about the buffalo, they were millions.
And when they got done, I mean, it was just a pile of bones.
Because it wouldn't have been any kind of natural predator around here much, right,
that would have taken them out other than...
Oh, a lot of predators on them, you know.
They probably had big cats in, you know, bobcats, whatever, coyotes.
But not enough to clean them out, though.
Not enough to clean them out, all, no.
It was just a balance there.
Right.
When they came across here, them pioneers in them covered wagons, I mean, they didn't leave many deer, that's for sure.
I didn't see a deer in the woods until I was in college.
Remember I?
Hang on.
There were no deer.
Hang on, Dad.
Let's take a break.
Well, you know, it's the reason why that I never liked to deer hunt is because when I was growing up as a kid, I set up and just froze my butt off and never saw anything for years.
Like year after year, dad would put me on the side of a tree.
I would sit there all morning for however many days I sat there and never saw anything until he came and got me.
And I just thought, you know what, this stinks.
Oh, yeah.
Whatever this is, it ain't fun.
I don't want it.
Just sitting out here freezing.
Same way, my dad would drop me off, you know, an hour before daylight on a ladder with a board for a seat.
Yes, me.
It wouldn't pick me up until noon.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't see nothing.
Never saw anything.
And now I got a, my daughter, she sees 40 deer every time she goes.
She's killing 180 inch bucks, you know, bigger than anything I've ever seen in my life.
It's fun for her.
Oh, she loves it.
What does she, what was her?
I was going to ask, get a BK up day.
What did she kill this year?
Did she kill anything interesting?
Oh, she killed a hammer.
She killed a hammer.
She's usually with you all.
She usually does a hundred.
Well, we took her to South Texas this year.
And, uh, she killed.
killed a giant.
And I actually beat her.
And then Sight killed one bigger in hers.
Oh, that's rare.
He finally got the better of her.
Yeah, I finally beat her.
Because Eddie, you know, the guy owns land over there on high fence.
You know, he said, you know, we had hunted.
He said, your buck's coming to this stand.
So we hunted it that morning.
And look, I call it the grand parade.
Okay, because, hey, daylight comes up.
It's four doors under the corn feeder.
within the next three hours, I saw 60 deer, okay, and 35 of them was bucks.
We're hunting in South Texas, what they call the golden triangle.
Yeah, and these were just giants.
You know, so we get back that day, you know, and we're sitting in the lodge waiting for breakfast, you know,
and somebody says, hey, there goes a big buck toward the feeder down there on the lake.
And then somebody else says, yeah, that's the one that Eddie wants to uncle's side of the ship.
So they hide it on the scope and, you know, look at him.
So look, this feeder's up on stilts, you know,
and the deer has stuck his nose in it to get some food.
I couldn't even see the feeder because of the horns.
Okay, and I'm looking at Eddie and I said,
Eddie, have you lost your mind?
I said, hey, let somebody just going to pay you.
Shoot that bug.
This is a big guy.
Yeah, this is a big deer.
You know, he said, oh, no, that's what you're going to.
one you're going to get. So I hunted him for three days and actually got him. He was 28 points.
Wow. Okay. He looked like a cactus. He's like a cactus on top of his head, you know,
and he's in the podcast room right behind me. For all to see. Oh, he was cool. He's beautiful, okay?
It was a very touching moment. Oh, I like to cry when I walked up on him. I'm serious. He was
that pretty. I said, God. I could tell Sy was getting the most, now he was a beautiful animal. I've never seen anything like it. So,
So I put his hands on him, got emotional.
And then BK ran over there and started hugging him
because she saw that he was getting emotional.
Yeah.
And I was watching that.
BK was like size support at him.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
Yeah, that's right.
It was a trip of a lifetime.
The point is with management,
they have created a gigantic deer herd.
Well, none of that.
It started with stocking pairs in here.
And then like what we're doing here, what Stone's doing is what people need to be doing.
You call out deer, you watch them.
Like you said, Sal, you wait and you let them grow.
No, no.
And it's actually really fun and it's actually really a good management tool.
And it's a lot of, it makes me feel good because I know that future generations will reap the benefit of all that.
That's what it's all about.
Yes. Last year we had 11 bucks on the hit list.
Okay. I mean, Stone and BK have named them, and they're on the hit list.
You can shoot this one, okay?
Look, we killed every one of them last year, 11.
And the great thing about it is, hey, everybody in the whole family got to shoot one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bella killed one.
Jacob killed one.
Her husband.
Yep.
Y'all just, you know, I killed the call, your BK killed the call, y'all, Jay killed the call, Willie Shot 1.
But you know what's even more fascinating, Dad, is that 30 years ago, we never even, I mean, this land was owned by someone else, and we were invited to hunt over there, just as guest, and eventually we were able to lease some of that property.
and then eventually God blessed us and you were able to buy some of that property with someone else with Mac and then eventually to buy all that property.
Yep.
Our family.
That's when Jason Willie came in.
Exactly.
So you think about that.
I mean, the Almighty opened up doors to buy it.
Now we're able to manage it.
And as Jay said, one day we'll all be gone.
And so we're talking about great, great grandchildren.
We'll still be able to kill those.
Deer.
The legacy.
I mean, that's the beauty of.
That's the way the Almighty intended it.
If the government allows it, which these days, I'm not sure what the government's going to do.
Who was it that said if you can keep it?
Was it Benjamin Franklin?
One of them said it's a republic.
What do we have with theocracy?
And he said, a constitutional republic if you can keep it.
I mean, that's the trick, right?
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Which is, you know, that's what?
But that's the idea.
The idea was that you can build something and then pass it on.
Well, I told him when I said, hey, the best thing you ever did was when you bought
that first couple of acres.
And then you just kept adding.
Expanded.
You could afford it.
The memories that have been made out there are priceless.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I'll carry those until they put me in the ground.
Yep.
And my goal is BK, her kids, do the same thing.
So we've really been blessed.
It's been some good times had out there.
What are you talking about?
And that's the beauty of.
So, Si, you seem healthy.
A lot of people ask us all the time how Si's health.
Because, you know, it's been rumored you and Dad both have died several times on the Internet.
I don't know why they keep doing that.
I jotted some down.
Dad, you've been killed.
off less than sigh.
I don't know, for some reason,
Sae has died in a car crash, a plane crash.
He's been found unresponsive in the woods on several occasions.
And then, of course, you didn't survive COVID either.
And yet you're here today.
I can't tell you how many times people are called,
Hey, is Uncle Sae okay?
We heard.
No.
I've literally had people come up to me at an event.
And I just wanted to tell you, just offer.
from my condoneses for Uncle Si.
And I was like, well, I appreciate that.
You know, he's still kicking.
Oh, sorry?
He's still around.
Are you serious?
I read where he died last year.
I said, no, he's still going strong.
No, Uncle Side doesn't got a second win.
I've been in and out of prison.
Yeah.
No.
Heard he's in jail.
Well, that was with all that CBD oil you were selling CBD old.
You know, Jayce is selling laptops now, I hear.
Yeah, Jay said he got in the laptop business.
Somebody hacked his Twitter account, Si, and he was signing MacBooks and selling them on the internet.
That was his most recent deal.
They still ain't cleaned that out.
Oh, I guess.
But your health is good.
Oh, yeah.
You've been doing well, which is a good thing.
Yeah, the only thing got going against me is old age is creeping up on me, boys.
His dad says the resurrection is looming large.
I'm sure.
But that's true for all of us, right?
So let's take another break.
So we had a 70th Christmas party for Chris, which is Corey's mom.
And so Stone smoked a couple of brisketes, which were excellent.
And completely consumed, by the way, Stone.
That's what I heard.
Gone.
By the time the line passed through, two full brisketes.
Big brisket.
It was impressive.
And Willie said it was all the...
the church people, but I was like, Willie, it started with your family because you're talking
by some son-in-laws that can eat. I mean, they look like Greek gods. I mean, they're good-looking
people, but I'm telling you, them boys can eat. But Willie had, he did the slum gullions,
dad. He had three big old pots. And you don't know what's in. I couldn't identify it.
The molligan. They were delicious, but I couldn't tell you what they were. It was just chock full of
stuff. I mean, it's so thick, you can't hardly stir it with a spoon. That's about the biggest
pot I've ever seen. Oh, no, no, no. There's what so funny. You mean they hate that too? Every,
I mean, the last ones through were the Guatemalans that work for Willie, because they always come in
last. I don't know why they do that, but I guess they feel like they need to wait. And they were
scraping the very bottom getting what was left off the bottom. But it was all, all pots
scrape clean. He's funny to watch when he starts out. Because he always
starts out with a smaller pot.
Yeah.
It has to.
And as he's going alone, okay, he's looked in the refrigerator and found this that he put
into it.
He looked in the freezer and he's found this that he's put into it.
Slum-goying.
Yeah.
He's always, y'all, here comes a bigger pot.
A bigger pot.
That's right.
When he gets through, it looks like an army mess hall.
The pot is this big around and this high.
I started trying to, I started trying to identify it by taste.
what was in it.
I started asking them questions,
but I mean, we ran out.
I couldn't figure.
You know, it was like,
I thought I tasted cream cheese.
No, that was sour cream.
It was just,
it went like that for about five minutes
and I finally I gave up.
You couldn't reproduce it.
Oh, but I smoked two giant brisketes.
They were,
they were huge.
Yeah.
So I got me a new smoker.
It is fine, too.
Is it bigger than the 30 gallon?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I wanted you give an update, Jay, because people love it when you're on to talk about different things.
Because I just, I did a couple of things that I know that I've enjoyed, but there may be something I forgot.
So one is you started smoking cheese.
Oh, yeah.
Which is delicious.
Yep.
So, which is pretty simple, right?
Because you just put cheese in the smoker.
But that's.
Yeah, it's real simple.
You get you block of cheese.
You get a pellet tube.
You fill it up with pellets, slide it, close a lid, and let her eat.
It's called cold smoking, three hours.
delicious because it just puts a little hint gets that smoke flavor in it
tell us about how you did the uh the pork belly burnt ends now that's just that's just filthy
it's so good so you you take a pork belly by the way by the way pork belly and you i cut it up
into cubes about like that what did i put on them things god i can't remember now well i just put
my rub on it and smoke that thing for about four hours and then
and took it out, put them in a pan, brown sugar, butter,
and you put honey, yeah, something sweet on it, yeah.
And put it back in the smoker, covered up and let it render down.
And my goodness.
And you actually burn this a little bit.
It's okay.
You think about bacon.
Yeah.
It's like a, it's like a crackling.
Like you eat a crackling, but they're not like real hard.
Instead, they're softer.
Oh, yeah.
But you got that same kind of fat render, but they're just, I mean, so.
You don't have to have teeth to eat them.
Right.
They're candy.
They're candy.
They're candy.
Yeah.
But we ate them.
Baking candy.
You know, Dan is always looking for sales on meat.
So she found porkbellies on sale and got about eight of them, put them in the freezer.
So we've been eating pork belly.
It's fine.
But you better have a lot of water to drink when you get done eating it.
But they are good.
So Anna goes down there.
She's so funny now.
She competes.
There's a bunch of,
there's a handful of older people because everybody's looking for a deal.
So she shows up at Brookers down there that ride at the bewitching hour,
about 6.30 in the morning.
Oh, yeah.
It's just her and about a handful of old people.
Of course, she's got the jump on them because they're in them go-kart,
you know.
They got to ride the motorized because they can't get around that good.
But Nan's still striding.
She's young.
So she gets the jump on them to get to the reduce meat.
They take that meat, you know, still great shape, but it comes out early and knock that price off, get it cheap.
And then Jay, he'll put it in the food saver.
And then he'll season it, put it in the food saver and then put it in the freezer.
So we always are stocked up with, but it's great prime beast and pork.
But, man, you get it at such a cheap price.
So, of course, Nan likes to save that money.
You know, she's all about savings.
but we're all about, you know,
we're all about fresh and the good, the good meats.
So it's, we got a winning,
we got a winning thing going here.
Oh, that smoker's always going at my house.
That thing.
It's kind of our neighborhood thing, so, which is really good.
So, so.
By the way, we got some rives done at Ms. Kay said,
Oh, yeah.
Cook them this week.
Oh, I'm bringing you one of them smokers, too.
He sent one for you.
Oh, that's all right?
They're highfalutin, high-end smoker.
Cotton gin smokers is the name of them.
They are fine, who.
Yeah.
But that one you got now, it's about time to be replaced.
Yeah.
But I'll come down and cook him real sometime this week if you want me too.
That was a guy last night that was other eating.
He said, who made this brisket?
I said, oh, that's my son-in-law, ain't that?
He says, is that the one that lives next to you?
And I said, yeah.
And he said, man, it must pay to have a guy like that around.
Because my guy said, every day.
Every day.
That's how you get a little girth on you there.
That's right.
So, Jay, tell us about your jiu-jitsu.
news because you only a school and so you got you just had a a recent upgrade which was pretty
cool oh yeah it was it was a it was quite the event you know i have three daughters and a wife
so i need a lot of therapy oh yeah and this is mental and physical so instead of going to a psychiatrist
I go up to a gym every evening and take a butt-wopin.
Take multiple butt-wopens for the most part.
So that's my, it's very therapeutic for me.
It keeps me in check, you know, because if you had pride issues,
you go to a Jiu-Jitsu Academy somewhere,
and you won't have those anymore.
You will lose every bit of your pride,
because you realize real fast that you ain't near as tough as you thought you were.
Man, you ain't as bad as you think of you are.
You get your buttwhip by a 140-pound woman.
You go back to the drawing board.
Well, maybe I don't know what I thought I did.
But anyway, it's a defensive discipline.
Is that the best way to put it?
It's a grappling.
It's chokes and arm locks.
And the guy that came up with this particular,
because there's different styles, I guess, is from Brazil.
Is that right, originally?
Yeah, I think he weighed 140.
pounds, little guys. And there's a lot of, so they do a lot of like women's self-defense
classes, a lot of police take part in this. So it's a lot of, there's a lot of really good things
out of this other than, you know, just, I mean, it's obviously it's good just for your own psyche
and discipline and stuff like that. But it's really, I mean, you do a lot of good community stuff too.
I started a couple of years ago and made some really good friends through all of it.
And, but that woman I was telling you about, her name is Mallory, she, uh, with, she's the reason I got my girls into it.
Yep. Because once I realize this woman, if, if a man thought he was fixing to take advantage of this woman, that man is fixing to be crippled for life.
Because she can do whatever she wants to do and has no fear.
And so I wanted that for my girls.
So I got my eight now.
You got to watch it, though, because they're an eight-year-olds.
I got, you know, his daughter, Seven, Sage, okay.
Carl's his boyfriend, old boyfriend, okay.
He's a 17-year-old, pretty husky little dude, okay?
Sage comes running in, he's on the couch,
jumped up behind him and puts him in one of them guillotine choke-hote, okay?
He has got a phone in his hand, okay?
The phone drops out.
of his hand and he's fixed and Stone was looking at himself like that boy goes he he was this
close to passing out he was in the price he did lose cautious for about two seconds yeah he dropped his
phone he then he looked up and said what happened I said you got choked by an eight-year-old's that happened
rear choke though yeah but I watched him okay and I'd watch him you know Stone be showing somebody here's
a choke you know to get out of yeah you know and I said I said I noticed one thing right off I said
This has got nothing to do with strength.
This is all about technique and knowledge of what you're working with.
Strength helps.
But the main lesson that it gives people is how to stay calm in a very stressful situation.
It should help with their discipline too.
Oh, no, no.
It does.
It does.
Discipline and endurance.
Okay.
I watched him, me and Philip went and watched him when he got his belt.
Okay.
And there's about what?
How many people?
But 27 in the class.
27 in the class.
Okay.
So, hey, it's his night.
Okay.
He takes on all.
This is...
Hey, all 27 of them, okay, and there is no break.
There is no rest, no, no.
All 27 of them, and look, you think, well, okay, we'll let the scrub start first.
Oh, no.
The top guy.
With the black belt.
Yeah, with the black belt.
and all this, you know, start.
And they, I just finally, after
two hours of it, I just couldn't take
the more. I said, don't, I've gone,
I enjoyed it, because I got to go.
Oh, it was brutal. I can't take anymore.
It's hard to watch.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, somebody said, are you going to do this?
I said, no. I said, I've watched them warm up,
and I said, I already been dead just from the warm up.
Got to die.
Well, hang up, hang on, let's take another break.
Oh, it was rough.
Yeah, but, and so,
So you earned your Bluebell.
I got started late in life.
You know, I'm 47.
And like I say, it's good therapy for me.
But it keeps me in shape.
And it teaches me a lot of humility and keeps me in check.
You know, it's a, it's, I'm very passionate about it now.
So I have a new goals set, you know, at my age, which is pretty neat.
It's very impressive.
Yeah.
It really is.
But that belt test came after about, oh.
I'd say roughly seven to 800 hours of training.
And then once the professor deems you ready to test for your next belt, in my case, I went from white to blue.
And in the white to blue curriculum, there's 88 moves that I had to demonstrate before the shark tank.
Cy was there.
He saw the 88 moves.
And then he saw about half of the shark tank, which is everybody taking turns on me three-minute rounds with no breaks.
And when there's not wrestling, when he's not wrestling somebody, he's got to do push-ups or sit-up to something.
So there's one minute in between these rounds that I was doing calisthenics.
In the world we happen to live in now, that would come in handy.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
And it gives me a little piece of mind that my girls are, if they would at least have a plan if something happens.
Well, and then that's my observation of it just from kind of being on the outside, but being on the inside of the family,
is that it's been really good for Jay in relationship with the girls and turns of spending time with them.
But then also, like he said, just the psyche of it.
Well, there's a lot of discipline involved.
Oh, no, no.
Well, right.
And they learned that.
But then they also learn that.
I mean, he is able to deal with them because, like, he's got one dating.
And look, it's drama.
Teenage girls and dating.
Oh, no.
I raised two myself.
Oh, no.
That ain't easy.
You raise one.
Yep.
You know, dad didn't get a daughter until three years ago, but I'm saying daughters are different.
And even dad, you've noticed it from the sense of even having a grown one.
Oh, yeah.
There's just drama with daughters.
A lot of drama.
And then also, Jay has a bit of a child prodigy in the sense that Sage is, she's good at it and she's young.
And she's going to be really good probably just because she's learning everything at a young age.
Well, no, no, it's not only that.
It's helpful with the mental attitude of growing up.
Okay?
Because I mean, I was sitting there one day.
He'd invited me for a meal, sitting on the couch.
She comes in and just squares up right in front of me.
I said, don't say, I said, what?
She said, you want to wrestle?
And I said, no, Sage, go outside.
I don't want you to hurt me.
Get.
Get.
You want to wrestle.
You want to wrestle.
You want to wrestle.
You know, because say, I.
Like I said, it's about technique.
Okay, because my doctor, my doctor done it.
Okay, Hamwin was in, and he was giving me a physical, okay,
and he put his check in my artery.
Okay, well, he put his thumb, and he had it on my artery,
and he pushed, and it was in between two vertebraes of my neck.
And, hey, how this?
Yeah.
All right, just pressure point stuff, it works.
Trust me.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, because it scared him.
Oh, my goodness, do I need to take you.
You might on a tell him practice on somebody else.
No, no, no, no.
I told him.
I said, no.
He said, are you all right?
And I said, I'm fine now that you took your finger on my thumb out of my vertebrae.
You know, I said, you just shut off my oxygen and blood supply.
He was just getting his pulse checked, Phil.
Yeah.
He was just checking his pulse.
All right.
You know, you got, you see, you may not have quite as much going.
It may not be quite as easy to, or quite as difficult to take.
going to take you out.
This thing about Spock used to walking up behind on Star Trek,
that works.
Okay.
What do you do, I was saying?
Yeah, the vulcan nerve.
Speaking of Star Trek,
then what?
All right, hang on.
We got to do this.
Oh, yeah, I've got to go with him.
Okay, so we got our last segment.
Let's take a break.
You'll like it.
All right, so our last segment is,
because I was going to ask you,
it's a shameless plug, I guess, for myself,
because I know you like my preaching,
but I was going to ask you if you heard any good sermons lately.
So I want to hear, you said that I preached this last
Sunday.
Yeah.
And so you got,
you got a thought out of it.
Between,
between my sermon and Star Trek,
you got something you want to allow it.
No, no.
I got a new way of looking at,
you know,
like Jason started years ago when he was teaching the,
the teenagers at Whitefair Road.
And he had told him,
he said, close your eyes,
you know, told the class,
close you eye.
And when I say the word God,
what picture is in your mind?
You know, how do you see God?
I remember him, he said that on the pocket.
Well, anyway, so look, my wife has been
flashing the TV everything we got on TV. She's cutting it, you know, to get the Monday down.
She finally found a new channel and it's a new Star Trek on this channel. Okay.
She's got new stars and everything, you know, got a different spot, Captain Kirk and all that's
back. But anyway, so she said, oh, I got to show you this. And I said, what it? She said,
I just seen Willie on television on Star Trek. And I said, really? She said, yeah. So she goes
to it and brings it up.
This guy looks enough like Willie,
but hey, he's about 50 pounds heavier.
Okay, and he's got real long hair.
Got a big long wig on.
But he, it is Willie,
because I just died laughing.
I said, I've got to tell Willie this,
and I did the other day.
But anyway, but you're talking about the sermon.
Your sermon Sunday got me thinking,
and I was watching Star Trek,
and they pull up, and there's a nebula,
and it's just a gas cloud.
You know, and I got to think,
and I said, well, I said, hey, how about this?
I told them on my podcast yesterday.
I said, hey, we're going to go heavy.
I'm going to give you some ways of how to describe God.
You know, I said, because Jason asked his kids in class, you know,
what comes to mind when I tell you, you know.
What picture?
Give me a picture of God.
Well, hey, how about a nebula cloud, a gas cloud?
with, okay, intelligence.
It ain't nobody.
But the guy asked, you know,
the guy asked,
what do you sense?
And he said,
hey, I sense there's a brain.
It's intelligent life in that cloud.
So that was one of them.
And I said, well, here's the thing.
I said, here's another way of describing God.
He's pure energy because he's everywhere all at once.
So God is actually pure energy.
That's true.
because the Bible says, okay, Jesus is the light of the world.
And I said, light is energy.
And then I said, well, here's another way to do it.
Consciousness.
A consciousness of something.
Okay.
Or a awareness of something.
You know, because people said, I just felt, I felt your presence.
You know, somebody walks up behind you and says, you know, I didn't hear you, but I felt you.
So that's one of the things with your lesson other day
about, okay, you know, the evil one
used to control us by the fear of death.
Well, hey, Jesus took care of all that.
Okay, when he died and then rose from the dead
and ascended bodily back to the father, hey.
No fear of death?
There's no fear of death.
Right.
Yeah, there's nothing scary about it anymore.
Right.
Yeah.
Jesus said this, hey, since I did it, guess what?
I will do it for you.
You know, the scripture says,
hey, even if you die, you won't die.
So that's what I, yeah, hey,
it's a different way of looking.
Because if you ask somebody, hey, show me this God,
draw me a picture of this God you're always talking about.
Yeah, well, now you can give them kind of,
Yeah.
The different aspects.
I like that.
And the second thing I said is you're never alone to your point.
Yeah.
Because you're part of now, you're a son, not a slave.
And I went to Romans 8 because he said, since you have the spirit of God, his presence, always in your life.
And again, that's something you can't see, but you know he's there because he said he lives inside you.
So you're never alone ever again.
So you never worry about being abandoned.
you're not a slave, you're a son.
He called it the spirit of sonship.
And so not only you never had to worry about death,
but you also never have to worry about being alone.
You're never alone.
You can be on a deserted island.
If you have the spirit of God, you're not alone.
You're a part of the family of God.
Well, another thing I was talking about, okay,
is like you were talking about, okay, you're not alone, okay.
But the scriptures tells us, okay,
I wrote it on your heart.
Okay, so all the good stuff that God has to offer for the human being,
we've got that.
I really don't have to read this, but I should
because he told me that, hey, I've written all that on your heart.
Yeah.
That's why when you say, okay, you know, you got a choice, right or wrong.
You know it's wrong.
Right.
Because he's told you it's wrong.
Plus, you can see the change in people's behavior.
That's right.
Do you look at the fruit that they're bearing?
You're like?
Well, no, no, that's why I was saying I'm hung up a lot on right now
on the fruit of the spirit.
You know, because I'm the goodwill ambassador of, you know,
Flowers General.com.
Okay.
And you'd be shocked once you look, Google it,
and see all the stuff,
how flowers
and the fruit of the spirit
go together. The rose
is the love.
Okay, a red rose is love
and that's back in the Roman time.
Okay, white irises, flowers
or purity.
Okay, and they're just more and more and more.
Because Alice Gibbons
Google that because I told her when she said,
okay, I want you to be my goodwill ambassador
for this. And I said, okay, but here's
what I want to do. Whether you send one rolls out or 50, I want a scripture to go with every one of them.
And it was surprising and like the God, you know, God talks about flowers a lot in his Bible and his work.
Yep. Okay. Look at the lilies of the field. Yeah, they don't do nothing. But hey, they're array. Look at the beauty they are.
Hal, you need to get you one of those Goodwill Ambassador gigs. Yeah, I do. How do you go about getting that, sir?
I look, okay.
I had nothing to do with people coming to me and said it.
You got to be Uncle Sy to get a gig like that.
But I'm just saying.
That's right.
Now, in fact, when I first told me about it, we were talking about some scriptures.
And my first thought was that we are the aroma of life.
No, no.
And I thought about that.
Most flowers smell good.
Oh, yeah.
And I thought about that in Christianity.
You know, that's what we are.
We're the aroma of life.
And, you know, you put a bouquet of flowers here in the middle of this table.
they smell good.
And to people who are looking for the fragrance of life, we smell good.
Unfortunately, it also says we're the smell of death to those who don't know what we know,
which is interesting.
Well, no, no, because like when you're talking about the fragrance, okay, and not on that,
flowers set a mood.
Mm-hmm.
You know, you can be in a sad frame of mind.
Somebody brings in a beautiful bouquet of flowers that sets it in front of you.
That's right.
it lifts your spirit
and then if you
like that and say oh my goodness
the aroma that's putting out
yeah
yeah
plus have you noticed about flowers
is they tend to reflect
a person's personality
like I noticed when we came home from a trip
and Anna had had a birthday a couple of weeks ago
so I walk into her kitchen
and I look on her countertop
and how many things of flowers
if I ever see it
Five or six things of flowers.
And I was like, good night, man.
And I said, what was the deal here?
And she said, well, people kept sending me flowers for my birthday.
But I thought that was not on accident.
That was because her personality impacted people to the point they were like, you know what?
I'm going to send her some flowers.
I mean, not everybody else gets five things of flowers.
That was because she had an impact on people's lives and she does good by them.
And so they thought, you know, I'm going to send her.
We'll send her some flowers.
One of those was Alex called me, her sister.
Yeah.
Your other daughter.
Yeah.
It said, would you like to get your wife some flowers for a birthday?
I said, sounds good.
Sounds good.
Good call.
That's somebody looking out for you.
Yeah, good call.
She happens to be in the room today, too, looking at up.
That's why we have a compound living, that's what we call that.
Well, man, that was a fast, that was a fast podcast.
as they went by a fast,
which is,
that means it's a good thing.
It means it's been too long
since we had your own.
So we're going to get you out
to hang out and overtime.
And we'll talk a little bit more
about Siamon idea.
I like that.
And we'll chat a little bit more about that.
It's good to have y'all.
We appreciate it.
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