Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 652 | Miss Kay Throws Phil Under the Bus & Admits Her Biggest Regret from His Wild Years

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

Miss Kay and Lisa spill the beans on what their parents thought of their marriages! Miss Kay has one big regret from the years Phil was living recklessly. Al and Lisa draw parallels between their own marriage and those of their parents and in-laws. The wives reveal what they think is important to pass on to the younger generations and how to foster an environment of forgiveness and honesty.  "The Blind" hits theaters this fall. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. Jason is still out on assignment. We sent him out to find some stories and make up some stuff as he's fond of doing. He's good at doing that too. He's good at doing that. So we had Sy and Stone on the last podcast. We traded them for an upgrade in beauty. and we have Lisa and mom, Ms. Kay, on the podcast today, joining Dad and I.

So welcome, ladies. Thank you. The unashamed audience loves them when the ladies are on. So we consistently hear that. So Lisa and I were just in Indiana this last week, and I don't know how many told me how much. I know you hear it a lot, but they love it when y'all are on the podcast. Sometimes they want to see a face without a hair. Yeah.

Right. That is true. That's exactly right. Since I've been keeping a little on my face lately, so it's nice to have that on. And we pluck ours, so we try not to have any. Yeah. If I can't see it, I just save it off. So, Dad, they like to get the tweezers after theirs.

Yeah, those women have a pinch-it for doing a lot of plucking. Mm-hmm. Like plucking chicken feathers. Yeah, I've done a lot of that. A wayward. There's a girl over here. Got to get it. Yeah, you got to get it out there.

If I saw them plucking chickens when I was growing up, I ran for the tree house I had. Did you ever actually plucked chickens during your cooking career? I actually plucked ducks with my dad. But, no, I didn't fool them chickens with a dead head hanging over. No, I didn't like that. And you didn't actually really have to pluck ducks either because, we always plucked our own ducks. Yeah, but my dad would kill ducks. sometime. He was more of a deer hunter, but he did kill ducks too and quail them.

Yeah, and you would help with that. And you never did, did you, baby? You never helped. No. I had to hold the squirrel's tails. Now, I did squirrels. Yeah. For your dad? She picked ducks and held the squirrel there, you know what? You hold them for dad too when you were, yeah. My dad wasn't a duck hunter, though, so I didn't do ducks. I only did squirrel and deer. I did help with deer too. Oh, yeah, you like that gutting of the deer, right? No. Now, Dad used to clean deer inside the...

Oh, don't remind me, I'm inside the apartment. At Louisiana Tech, yeah. Because it was out of season, I assume, probably. That puts you safer behind closed doors. Hanging from our lighting from the ceiling. It's funny because I was a little kid, but I can still remember that. And, of course, you know, there's a certain smells when you're cleaning a deer. It's not exactly the best, and you'd smell that in the house.

The dean of men of the university finally called me in and said, you know, people watch you and see what you're doing. It's just not very scholarly. And the road you live on is called, what scholar? I said, scholar drive. He said, you're not very scholarly living, Mr. Robinson. You know, get all that boats and all this trash and the dead guts some duck feathers.

That's down at your apartment. It's just, it's not scholarly. You know what else he had in the living room? So they were worried about my vibes, never knowing that once I left that prestigious university, I never had to fall back on it. But I went to the woods and did a lot better than I would have teaching school for 20 years. Well, I will say, Dan. About 25 grand a year.

I did, I will say. that the night that they, I don't know if I've ever talked about this on the podcast. So the night that they notified you that you were going to be received the 2014 alumnus of the year, which was every year they let, you know, some famous alumni of the year, they let them know that you've been deemed this person. And so we were there. Bradshaw was there that night. And, you know, they had a little thing out on you and him at the same time.

But you were the 2014. And you did notice and told the president of university and others that it was ironic that you redeemed this. And yet there was a point in time where you really were not seen as a person that probably would ever be awarded. No. No. As the alumnus of anything. And so you did kind of notice that that, you know. I think they had begun to notice my bank account.

And that's when the carpet was spread out in front of it. Red carpet. Well, what Brad Jose Field? All they want to check. All they want to check. That's what he said. It was so funny. So I tell this story sometimes when I go on the road.

And I love telling it because the way you said it, they were laughing. as you were telling him. But it was one of those kind of laughs as like a nervous laugh. Like they were laughing, but it was like, is he being serious? Or is he joking?

But like most satirical stories, there was a bit of truth in your humor as you were telling it because it was like, no, I realize now that I'm famous and on television, I realize why you're telling this. But at the time I was here,

the accolades were, we're heaping on O'Fill. In fact, the way you put it, you said, most of the people around me at that time said I was some kind of idiot. Yeah. Now I'm a genius, you know. But you were just being truthful. I mean, I find it ironic that you were just speaking truth into it,

and it made them kind of nervous because most people want to just like say, oh, yeah, thank you so much for this thing. But you were just being honest. I mean, and Bradshaw said, said, all they want is to check. And that's true. I mean, that really is kind of how the game is played, right? Yep. I mean, once you're wealthy, you say, here's a chance.

But I don't hold it against him. No, and you were being funny, and it was very funny. It was a funny night. So mom and I went and accepted your award because you had a scheduling conflict and weren't able to go. So mom and I were able to go and accept on Dad's behalf. And so we did. Because if they would let Dad preach the gospel, he'd have gone. But apparently they don't do that on college campuses anymore.

But look, I've said it before, and I do it all over the country. country, there's a picture of dad, and it's hanging down there at Tech, and it's on a wall with, because, you know, Louisiana Tech's been around a long time. Hall of Fame. It's a Hall of Fame. It's called the Hall of Alumni Fame. And so I didn't realize Tech's been around since the 1800s. That's the old university.

Old University. So there's been a person recognized from the very beginning. So this goes way back. So there's all kinds of people. bunch of them I recognize famous people, country singers, Carl Malone, you know, Bradshaw, all these people you recognize and business people. And I looked on the whole thing. Because dad was the, his picture is the most unique, you know, with the beard and all that. But nobody else mentioned the name of Christ on their plaque, except for that.

A couple of them mentioned faith, you know, was mentioned in their little write-up. but only one had Christ, servant of Christ, and that was that. So I tell people that makes me proud because, like, that's truly what makes you worthy of being on the wall. I actually became a follower of Jesus after I left tech. Exactly. It was a seed bed or whatever. Yeah, you were a bad boy at Tech. Yeah, but they wasn't for Jesus and I wasn't either at the time.

But they were looking post-education. And I guess they thought, well, you know, it is what it is. Well, let's face it, that's how they recognize you. And they recognize you for the first two things on the plat, because you're on TV and because you're known for being a duck call, you know, person. Yeah. Which is, you know, mom, that's where you, you know, you got your high school education. And I had a real diploma, thank you.

You did. Oh, I was going to bring, shoot, I forget to bring your, yesterday. We were at your house and laying on the counter, I was going to bring it over here, it was your report card. Your report card, which I guess was that just recently found. It was your seventh and eighth grade? Seventh and eighth grade report card. Somebody had just found.

I was impressed. She showed it to me. I was impressed on how many A's were there. A lot of A's and Bs. A lot of A's and Bs. I was a brown noser. My teachers love me. But only a few Cs

The C people didn't Well I couldn't do nothing with them I noticed your Cs were concentrated in mostly math Which is understandable And social studies A couple of C here Well I know it's just on the part I didn't like there But there were a couple of interesting things

I just I thought was Was interesting on there In that from this era I guess it was It had like your Of course it had your parents' name It had like what church you went to. Oh.

Which I thought, I guess things are a little different in the 50s and 60s, because it was 5960, I think, were the years. Like, what church you went to? It was part of your education back then. I guess so. Yeah. And I kind of, I lament that because I thought, well, that's interesting. It said, you know, first. I noticed it too.

Yeah, I had first Baptist church. Yeah, I didn't know that that was in there. I didn't either. I thought that was interesting. See, I'm looking at it now. And then it had your parents' name. occupation and has your mom down as a housewife. Yeah.

And your dad was a merchant and a planter. Yep. Which was pretty good. Now, what does that mean a planter? Well, he bought land on Red River where they plant all the cotton and stuff. And farmed it, you know, on the side. Yeah. Okay.

So had that mentioned. Now, has your doctors mentioned, is that just in case you had some kind of emergency? Yeah, but you know, back then doctors would even make house calls. Dr. Dupree, who is my doctor at the time. Yeah, he's on here. He actually would come to your house. He lived in another town. Oh, really?

But they did that. And then Dr. Ferguson was your dentist. He's mentioned. Yeah, you know, he's a nice dentist. I just hated going to the dentist. So if you had like a dental emergency, I guess you would have to go to see him. Yeah, you had to. You're right.

I wouldn't have thought they'd have put that kind of... Oh, and you were a poor card? Yeah. I just found that interesting. I mean, that's just, you'd never see that today. That'd be way too much information, personal information. Oh, yeah. Oh, they wouldn't allow it now.

HIPAA wouldn't let you, you couldn't do that with HIPAA these days. I was trying to look at some of your courses, so you had home living. It's home economics. Is that what it was? Yes. Which you had mostly A's, but I see a couple of Bs in there. I would have thought you'd been straight A's than that because you're kind of. It was probably the sewing part.

Yeah, the whole thing I made fell apart. It was supposed to be a black. And I couldn't even wear it because it started coming undone when I put it on. Yeah. Now, you had straight Bs and music and one C. So you're really a musical. Misbehave one day making jokes or something. And music wasn't my best either.

Physical ed, though, you had all S's. I was there. Whatever that means. Probably that I showed up. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I'm not athletic. Just the opposite. If I'm going to try that, I'll be hurt.

Right? So one other thing I thought was interesting about that is that you, this was right before you met dad. Because I was figuring out your age here. Yeah. And this would have been, you'd have been about 12 or 13. So this was right for your dad. Yeah, this was right for your dad died and right before you met dad. That's right.

So this was kind of the last of quote unquote normal life before really everything changed big. Oh, yeah. Last of the innocence. Yeah. Because you were about to go through a big life change right after this. Yeah. I wouldn't expect an all-up to change like that. I mean, that was kind of huge, right?

Yeah, it was. Yeah, they make movies about that kind of stuff. They do. Yeah, we're about to. What are you thinking about that, my? Yeah, I'm excited. They have me so young and pretty. And they were saying how good.

I might have been back then. How good the actress is. And she's a Brit, who plays you during this, period of time. Yeah. And you know, that's really funny. I can hardly speak English and yet a British and me messing up the English language. Well, you know, the British do speak English. You didn't know that. Well, yeah, but you can't really understand. There's a proper, proper English. I just want you to know that it is the same language that we speak. Well, it's more proper. Is that correct? Yeah. I have made the Charles before that

Sister Robertson there is, you know, she knows how to butcher the English language. Well, I wouldn't talk about it because our previous life under Oak Dynasty, they love when I wrecked words. Oh, yeah. Butchered them and everything else. Norm Krauseby made a living of it.

They said, keep doing it. That's right. All right, let's take a break. Yeah, so I want to talk about that because that's interesting. That is, of course, the movie, from I understand. None of us have seen it. So I may be...

What are you seen? Snippets. Snippets or two. And from my understanding of it, it sort of, it covers some of your childhood. Yep. Or more, I guess, Dad and his childhood. And then it picks up during this period where your teenage years when you first meet Dad. Yep.

And then it goes into the college years and when I'm born. and then it kind of goes into a young adult life, which is the bulk of the movie. So that was one of the things I was going to Ashgow. And Lisa and I can kind of speak to this too, is the, because we get this question a lot about the kind of the pros and cons of like growing up together.

Because in the Robertson family, most of us married young. You guys were even younger than any of us, not necessarily married, but together. Yeah. But we've all stayed married and had difficulties, but we've all stayed married. And we, I mean, the way I explained to people is we kind of grew up together, you know, we were immature. We certainly had problems.

But we've managed, you know. And so I wanted to talk about that a little bit, kind of from y'all's perspective, and then we can speak to that as well. But what was it like to grow up basically together? Because you were just kids when you met. I mean. Well, what? what pushed it together was the death of her dad combined with the behavior of her mother and what she did because of that.

So it was like, so. Well, mother did. See, we were dating at the same time. And when I had to be home, she wasn't there. And sometimes she didn't come home at all. So, I mean, here. Because she kind of lost it, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Because she was quite a bit younger. Your dad was only 48. 49. 49. She was 42 when he died. And so, and then she just kind of went. She remarried within the before a year.

Right. And then she kind of just like lost her way, right? Right. Yeah, I think she just, she did it because back then women were so dependent on their husbands. They couldn't even write a check. He wrote the check. She gave her the money, did everything. And I think she was so afraid.

She didn't really know how to take care of herself, right? That's right. Yeah. And they felt like they had to have a man to support them and, you know, protect them and everything like that. And I think that's why I went up so much more alone. And then when I feel as not only my boyfriend, but he was like my protector and everything. I'd have been by myself at that house, wouldn't I feel? Yep.

And had John started dating before he died? Well, yeah, he won't remember this. I made it right. We dated. We liked each other. And a girl hooked us up, you know, told me to, he wanted me to walk him off the field, told me he. Which I think this is in the film, I think. Yeah, he wanted me to walk him off the football field that night.

And she told Phil that I asked if I could walk him off the football field. of Phil. So she set us up. She had a little setup person. But it worked. That's the main thing that it worked. And we dated my freshman year, 14, all that. But then for some stupid reason, Phil said I was interfering with his hunting season. So that we would have to not date because he didn't have time for a girl during the hunting season.

You don't remember that, do you? I remember it. Okay. So I was waiting for him to come back after hunting season, and then he started fishing and all that, and I was like, well, whatever. So, but when we actually went back together with the day the funeral of my dad and several of the, I had a whole bunch of classmates that came to the funeral. But I remember when he came by and walked, and he looked at me,

and I looked at him and then, you know, he went by the body and went on out. And so when it was over, I went up to tell him, thank you, you know, for coming. And it just all started back again, didn't it? Yep. He realized he loved me. So here we sit through all the years. Was it worth it? 64 years dating and married.

Was it worth it? Of course it was. This is a dream come true for me. I dreamed about somebody like a pioneer man, and I got one. I just didn't get the real deal until he became a Christian. I got the rough man. But it was kind of forged in fire, so to speak, because it started in tragedy, and it was kind of him looking out for you, even at the beginning.

And see, my dad would have loved him because he was a hunter or two in fishermen, and they would have had a lot in common. But that probably also explains some of why you were drawn to dad. Well, it was almost like I became her dad. Well, that's what I'm saying. The qualities you had is what she loved about her dad too. Well, I held the squirrel legs. I picked duck feathers.

I quit. Do we pick quails? I can't remember. Yeah, we did that because he was a big bird hunter. And he fished, all that. And I, you know, I did. I helped with those. releasing of the brim that you have to do this too, you know.

Yeah, I did all that with him. And sometimes I would go just on a right, he would love to just go to the bottoms, which is down the hill, you know, where we go down, the Red Rivers down there, isn't it? Yep. And that, you know, he would just show me things and tell me things, and it's the first time I saw a bad, bad snake down there too.

But it was just, we had time to do things like. that. One day we, I rode with him to Texacana, and we weren't going for any reason, but just to look. We just look. And then, of course, I saw a dairy queen, and we stopped there and, you know, got some, but that was special memories of me and just me and my dad. Because, see, my sister was eight years older than me. So I was kind of popped in there, not planned, but then I become, you know, meant a lot to them because they didn't plan me, but they love me. Right. And I think with us, I would say, I mean, most of, we were married young.

Yeah. And so even though there were, you know, some struggles from early years, I think from immaturity, still there was something about sort of maturing together at the same time that it made it special. I don't know. How would you describe that? I think so. I mean, I love that we were young together. We were middle-aged together, and now we're growing old together.

I mean, it's just something about that, you know, that you... You know, looking back, it looks like it was about this long. Yeah. It happened quickly. Yeah. Think about how your whiskers are gray now. They're white. And you're talking about the years where you...

Well, for it, it's almost been 40 years. that Lisa and I have been together. Yeah. Yeah. Been married. Yeah. That seems fast. It does.

It seems very fast. I remember him with a quick cut. How about that? But, I mean, I love those memories. I wouldn't change any part of them. The rough patches, I mean, if there was a way around that, sure, I would love, you know, to not have to go through that. But they are, they made us who we are. You know, and they made our love what our love is.

And so I don't, I wouldn't change anything. I mean, nothing about our life would I change. Well, we were laughing about it because at one time we were transitioning with houses and, you know, some of the things we have and the blessings we have. We were talking about when we first got married. We were living in the front bedroom at Granny and Paul's house. Yep. We didn't even have a house. I remember.

You know, because we decided to get married. I mean, I was a brand new Christian, and, you know, Lisa and I were, we were in love, and we were just like, you know, why wait? Yeah, that was kind of like an 18-150 type deal. Exactly. Grand Impa were there, and so I came to, I came to y'all, and I said, look. Well, they can't hear anyway, so. They can't hear.

And they were snoring every night. So I came to y'all, and I was like, look, of course, you know, the boys were still home. And so I had been living there, too. And with y'all and I was like, look, I mean, I love Lisa. And so I think, I want to get married. you know, we want to do the right thing, and we decided to be pure. But, you know, I mean, we don't really have much going on. I was working for y'all.

I said, but we want to get married, and y'all are like, go for it. And, of course, her parents were like, yeah, they all are crazy. You don't have anything. And, of course, but y'all were like us. You were like, well, you just built it. That's right. We didn't have anything either, starting out. Lucky for us, though, that I came from a rich family that had a grocery store.

And every time I went to visit, I'd bring up. brought us a box full of food back. Tried to get in as many steaks as I could get in there. Well, that's what I'm saying. The rich, though, was always, it's always a, you know, relative because I always thought Lisa's family had a lot of money because they had a brick house. But looking back on now, I was like, no, they just had jobs. Yeah.

Yeah, we just didn't have much. It's so, like, everybody had money if they had a brick house. Yeah, well, my nanny's house was the first brick house in Idaho. Yeah. So it seemed like, man, they were rolling in it. Right. Yeah, and they had the biggest business. But if you were just doing that well and whatever endeavor you were doing in those days,

it didn't take a whole lot to live the good life. That's right. Things were cheap. So anyway, so we decided we were going to get married, that and pretty quick. And Granny and Paul said we owned us live in this front bedroom. So we did. And then we got the little place next door. The blue house?

Yeah, before it was blue. And that was the Lilos camp. And y'all had tried to buy it, but he wouldn't sell it. And remember, they came down. He didn't come down very often. And then his wife came down there one day. And she pulled a cushion up on that chair in the living room. They just had two rooms.

Had an outhouse out back. We didn't have a bathroom. Yeah. And there was a big old chicken snake on that chair in the living room. And she hit that front. front door and never even worried about the steps. She did about three rolls and got in her car and left and told Mr. Lillo that she would never be back. Yeah. So he came down the next day and said he was ready to sell. The Lord works in mysterious ways. We got married. They're a chicken

snuck. We got married and needed a place to live. The Lord sent a chicken snake in there. Yeah. Yeah. And got under that chair. And Ms. Lillo said she went never. That thing went up for sale after that. Next day up for sale. By the way, now it's being torn down by Jimmy Red, the Redneck. Because there ain't no telling what's living in there, that. He says he can move what's left of that little building, move it up the road, and somehow another get put it on some logs and roll it to his place up there. It's going to become part of his empire.

He's about three-quarters of a mile away, but that's going in. How does that make you feel, babe? It'll go right to your family. Yeah. Yeah. Your kin to him down through the, your kids. my nephew. Yeah.

There you go. My brother's son. It lives on. The building is still there. Yeah. He contacted somebody to move it because he knew he was going to have trouble with moving it. So they said, yeah, you give us $5,000. We'll move that house right on out there.

And then he said, well, do you think I could borrow it from you? And I'm like, no. That's ridiculous. We just gave you the house. I know. We gave you a house. Now you want to pay for us moving it? to your house.

Yeah. Well, y'all, we got a loan and y'all co-signed it for us. And it was, I can't remember what the original. We had to borrow $3,000. I guess it was $5,000. And then, so that's what it originally cost, five grand. To us. But our first loan was $8,500 because we had to borrow $3,500.

There was a lot of money in them, that. Oh, it was big money. And so we had to borrow $3,500 on top of the $5,000 to fix it up because we had to have a bathroom. Oh, yeah, they didn't. Yeah. But they had an outhouse. that was full of brown or crew spiders. Well, you know, that's a bad deal.

We got to use the bathroom. You're talking about to have to tilt lighty. I had to do that in the back of our store. You know, it didn't, when it was that age. You kind of tend to hover when you're going to the bathroom when you're worried about a brown or a clue spider, you know, bite you. But so we had to, we, so who, Lisa's dad, he enclosed the front porch and built us a bathroom and a bathroom in a living room.

living room and then we had a... I peed more in the bushes than I have in commode over my entire life. Is that why some of the bushes died? Maybe. That's not too good on the

landscaping situation around that. But it's for what you said, you know, these... Well, the other... I was raised where there was a toilet little board building about all a couple of hundred yards from the house.

That's where you went, you know, to use the bathroom. But other things lived it. So males, you know, they just get out in the bushes, you know, take a leak. Yeah, but the other issue at y'all's house was that you get out behind the house and the bushes out there. That's where the purple tail and the red wastes like to build a nest in there. I'm telling you.

You've got to be real easy around everything around there. Things tend to want to hurt you. Plus, there was more than one snake killed in the toilet. It's just a board with a hole in it. That's right. That's what I'm saying. I think we trained our grandsons off the porch, didn't we? To pee off the porch. They loved it.

And now they still try to do it sometimes. It was always fun, you know, who can out pee the other one, distance with us. Lord knows, I didn't do any of that. Well, it wouldn't be quite the same for the girls. Yeah. Okay, we've gone down a bad trail. Yeah, we did. Get out of potty works.

So that was our way, but so, so, different now, mom, you think about it. So now, to dad's point, we've gotten at this point in our lives and our age, so this spring, two of your grandchildren are getting married. Yeah. So Lil Will is getting married next month. Yes. And then you got Lily, Lily. Who's Jep's oldest. Oldest one. She's about, what, 18, 19th? He's 21? I don't think. I didn't know if she was in. Well, I'm sure she's been in college. She's been in college at least two years.

At least two years. She's at least 20, so 20 or 21. And they want to spend a few months, they said, down here right next to us. I heard. And the trailer house over there. Which is kind of continuing the tradition, which I thought was kind of cool, because that's where we live. And guess where he's from California? I know it.

He's a good kid. I really like it. He really is a great one. But I just don't know if he's ready for living down next to us. for three months, two months. Yeah, I don't think they've been down there and visited that yet. Not yet, then. So what would you?

We might have to hold on to that until they come for a visit. Well, I did fix it up. Yeah, because Anna Ann's been standing there, right? Yeah. So what sort of thing were y'all like trying to teach them? Because here's the 20-somethings. They're going to be with y'all. So what kind of life lessons would you teach them?

I'm figuring on, on fattening him up for one thing because he loves my food. I mean, he will. I know he always. He's a college athlete because he's a baseball player. Yeah, he is. So he'll love the cooking. He will.

He'll love that. Lily has a little eating thing, so she won't be eating hard. She's tiny. Okay, you'll have to start cooking again because you've just about quit cooking. Yep. So you're going to have to start cooking. You just going to come in on this one. She's not cooking much.

Well, somebody else that cook with me in the kitchen's not cooking like he used to either. I don't know who that is, but. Yeah, who makes the gumbo? Who makes the jumble? You two are going to have to start cooking if you're going to have people down here staying with you. You know, it's something, you know, you're getting, you start, you're going, when you start going toward 80, the menu begins to change. It was the same with Granny.

When she got about y'all's age, she didn't cook as much. Of course, you all kind of took over. It's just kind of as you get older, which I don't eat as much either. Some people do. Most people still eat a good bit. Some people, the skinnier people in their house don't. I don't speak for yourself. Everybody said, oh, worry about getting heavy, worry about getting heavy.

They came to me and they said, you need to gain some weight. Yeah, we're having to do the opposite with dad. We're having to fatten them up a little bit. Yeah, women don't. Women don't lose weight like that. They usually plump up and, you know. I can look at food and gain two pounds. Get a big behind.

I know of no other family, none, not even close, on the art of family still meeting together and eating together. I know of no other ones that tops us. That's true. Or as food stuff. Well, and it's interesting because y'all are. I mean, from barbecue to, to. Whatever. Unfortunately for y'all, you're still,

y'all are a little bit isolated because y'all still live out here. If y'all lived up with the rest of those in the neighborhood, you wouldn't have to worry about cooking because, I mean, our whole neighborhood is some of the best. Every meal you all have, y'all usually have people there.

Oh, it's amazing. With some of the best cooks in West Monroe are all on our street, and y'all all trained us. I mean, and now even my kids and the next generation of cooks are amazing. Well, I was so shot when I ate Mrs. Meatloaf, and it was exactly as good as my. That's what I'm saying. It's amazing.

And Jessica can cook too. Oh, yeah. And Jep likes to. Yep's fantastic, yeah. And Jason will cook certain things, you know, and he can cook them good too. Yeah. And. Well, Alex makes your meat love, too.

That's amazing. It's just like it. So, yeah, and like tonight, she's cooking a pork roast, Italian-style pork roast. I mean, so it's just like every night, you know, we're eating. So I wish I were there, but you're out here. But at Corey's house now, Willie is cooking, and Corey's, is doing everything else, not cooking. No, she doesn't have to.

No, that's true. But, you know, it's just, it is pretty amazing. But you'll still, what other things would you teach? Would you tell them about relationship and marriage? Yeah, we'll be teaching them a lot about marriage and forgiveness. Yeah, staying together. Right. Yeah, and don't even.

Outreach toward their neighbor, you know. Yeah. Well, my grandmother taught me, we'd be sitting on this way and watching the cars go by, we waved it over a car, whether you knew them or not. That's just what you did. And we were sitting out there talking about all kind of things and see, she would tell me, well, when you marry now, it's for life. It's for one man and one woman for life. And I said, well, I think some people get divorced. And she said, well, you won't even use that word because you won't need to. You're not, you won't ever. And I mean, that was plowed

into me like that one I retained. You know, I really kept that one. Some things I didn't do so well at. But even in that, Menfield were always, we were together so much that it wasn't even really realistic. But like I say, my daddy passed away. My mama was, kind of had a little nervous breakdown and started drinking pretty heavy. And so I had problems there. But, you know, the thing is, I knew from Nanny that when I got my husband, it was going to be forever. Of course, I

thought it would be just never a problem. But that was a lot. Well, when we were, Lisa and I were just in Indiana, and it was kind of a Q&A-style event. And one of the questions the guy asked us in front of this audience was, what advice would you give people about marriage? And instantly, Lisa said, well, tell them what you said about honesty, and then I'll tell what I said. Because, I mean, it's, I mean, without even thinking, we instantly said, here's, here are two things that we would do.

And we'll tell what you said. And I'll tell what I said. I just said openness and honesty because, you know, there's lots of things that happen to us whenever we're younger going, you know, all the way up until we get married. And we go into a marriage with a lot of baggage. And our spouse needs to know what that baggage is. and we need to pull those bags out and we need to talk about them and we need to go through these things that we've been through and we need to be able to heal from them and not just hide all this stuff because the way you react to things has a lot to do with how you were raised

and if you're reacting to something in a negative way then your spouse will recognize that because they know what you've been through. So they know your past. And, you know, I just stated that honesty is one of the most important things. And even yesterday I was talking to a girl by text that Al and I have been talking to her and her husband who are going through some marriage problems. And I told her, I said, truth is sometimes hard to give because. because of feelings. But I said, look, feelings change.

Truth is always the truth. And in order to build trust, and sometimes to build trust back, you have to be honest. Honesty is the most important thing. And that's the way it was in our marriage. I mean, honesty and openness. And to be open with everything, I have no secrets whatsoever from Allen anymore. He knows everything about my life. And so openness and honesty is one of the things that we teach

that's the most important thing for a couple to do. Yeah, I never thought I would be getting to the AIDS to where you have some advice and counsel with your grandchildren. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. You're like, whoa. And yet they need it desperately because where else would they get it?

You know, that's 20 years, 21 years from birth to now, Actually, you know, it's really not that long. I mean, but it just, and it's there. But you think, my dad, where else would they get it? They're not going to get it from the school system. No. They're not going to get it from social media. Nope.

Or friends. Nope. And so if it doesn't come from us, where will they get it? And so that's what you have to be reminded of. And we noticed that thing. So I came immediately on the hills of Lisa saying that. And again, it was back to that the sermon I preach Sunday. Always be prepared to give an answer.

Yeah. That was so good. And so there were seven children. And the Robertson clan, there's two of them left, Sai and me. Well, it's pretty interesting to note that none of them, there were seven of us, but none of them ever bought cell phones.

My family, the oldest of them, Jimmy Frank, Harold, Judy, Tommy, Jan, they're all gone. sign out of the last one with the last ones left and we don't have computers either. Why, the why I have no idea. They just never, they just didn't fool with them. Well, most of y'all were. You know, we started out. We never heard of them.

Most of y'all were pre-cell phone, but you're right, the last couple that could have just chose not to. Chose not to. Yeah. But that's kind of. But you do. I'm glad people have them or they wouldn't be listening to what we're having to say right now. Yeah. And most people, that's the way they function in the world.

The work environment, they have to have. And Phil, you're always asking one of your boys, what does that say on the river stage or, you know, whatever? It's hard to function without them. But to dad's point, you have to, they bring a lot of mischief. It's better if you can control it. Look, we spend a lot of time trying to control the environment. And I watch my kids do it, control the environment of their children because it can become so consuming. Yeah.

I mean, my granddaughter got it. that she hadn't even literally wiped the sleep out of her eyes, and she's wanting to know where the computer was, the iPad. Yeah. And I said, go ask your ma'am. I knew what was supposed to happen. And I hear, you know, the Lisa coming down like the thunderstorm in there. We're not doing that.

You're going to do this. You're going to do this. You're going to. Then all of a sudden everybody. Everybody scampers off and that was the end of that. But I knew what was going to happen because, but I thought that's how addictive they can become, but you literally can't even get woke up good. Yeah. Well, say, my real is at my house.

I looked at that and I concluded what you did. I said, it seems like there's a lot of, I don't know what you call it, mischief going on. You have to. Like anything else, it takes a lot of discipline with them because it's like anything else. It can become crazy. So back to Lisa's point. So I added in, if you're going to have openness and honesty, you have to have forgiveness. you have to have forgiveness.

Dad mentioned that order. Because if you're going to have openness, that means you're going to be open about mistakes. And if you're going to be open about mistakes, you're going to have to have some venue like we do with the Almighty where we can extend forgiveness for mistakes. And here's the thing about it. If you can't extend it the way God does,

but it's always harsh, then people won't be honest with it. Because it'll be easier for them to lie and be honest, if you're going to respond like a thunderstorm every time they're honest. Lisa mentioned this couple we've been working with. This guy said, look, you've got to have a, you've got to be like the Almighty. If you don't foster honesty, if you're harsh every time there's honesty, she won't be honest.

It'd be easier for her to lie. Yeah. So I was like, a lot of this depends on you. And I had to learn that the hard way. And so we mentioned that to this audience because we knew if you can get, those two things going in the right direction where you can tell the truth and where you can say I forgive you. I told the audience, I said the hardest words to say for most people is I was wrong. I love it when men finally say it. I was wrong and please forgive me. And then the response is I

forgive you and I love you. And those are hard things to say, especially when somebody's feelings are hurt. But if you can say those words and meet them and then live it, then you can use usually rock and roll. Yeah. And so, but that, what a great thing to teach your grandchildren.

And we've noticed that in our grandkids. Now that they're dating and having trouble and having breakups and all that, they have to learn that somewhere. And trust me, it doesn't happen by osmosis and natural.

No. You're not going to learn that from the world. No. All you're going to learn is anger, bitterness, and difficulty. So, I mean,

it's up to us to be able to teach them. And it's interesting because we're going to do, questions were almost out of time but one of the questions was what's your advice for parenting young children to teen and adult so that's exactly what we've been talking about i mean that's that is what you have to do to teach them that right you know when phil went through his bad time with that when he didn't have the lord in those 10 years you know well when i stuck with him then everybody was mad at me because they said leave him leave and leave him and i said no my grandma

mother taught me to stay because that was what you were supposed to do. And you just pray and, you know, God will fix it eventually. Are you glad you did? Yes. Are you glad I did? Yeah. Thank you. I love it when mom goes to speak somewhere and she comes in and dad says, well, Ms. Cage, you throw me under the bus tonight. And she said, yep, but God got you out from under it. You did. But nobody stayed to it. They just didn't live in it 10 years, I'm telling you. But I just would every day.

And the only thing I ever felt so guilty about was that you, being the oldest one, you know, had a lot of, too much responsibility to me almost with your brothers because I would lose a lot of sleep waiting up for him to come in. That didn't come into really, really daylight or something. And, you know, there you were. But then I told you. And you said that you didn't mind, and that probably made you a better person. Yeah. You came out of that, out of those years, in a wonderful way.

You had it all up. I said it's a miracle of God because, I mean, I was raised on a college campus by teenagers initially. And then, no, why? I mean, I was on a college campus of the night, and I said that, and they all broke out laughing because I was like, I mean, look at yourself. I mean, would you all be good at raising a baby here? And everybody started laughing. I was like, it's a miracle. I survived.

And then we lived for his first job. We lived on the road, and it wasn't took you three minutes to get up to Brother Layton and his wife, which he was a preacher, I retired one, I guess, and she was blind. Yeah. And you went every day there. Yeah, that provided my church experiences and my Bible knowledge that I still used to this day. So I'll mention this in the last couple of minutes. I had it at the beginning and forgot. So we're talking a lot about age on this podcast.

and their age differences. And this is really interesting. So I come in this morning when I brought to us some Chick-fil-A, and you all three, A-N-N-N-2, engrossed and watching gunsmoke. And so Alex tells me, she said, you know, it was interesting because when I first I heard Papo Phil talking about Matt Dillon because he kept saying Matt Dillon, you know, solves all the problems and Matt Dillon does this and Matt Dillon does that. And so she said she gets to talking with Maddie, who's our other.

the other, you know, that works here is they're young, see, and they're like, they don't know Matt. Well, they were trying to figure, they thought he was talking about

the actor, Matt Dillon. Oh, no. So they were like, what movies is, how about Phil talking about that Matt Dillon is in,

that he's like, that he's such a big Matt Dillon fan, talking about the actor. Yeah, and this is. Matt Dillon, which dad probably didn't even know who Matt Dillon,

the actor is to. So, because they're young. So they weren't relating it to Gunsmo. They don't even, they don't even, They've never seen this show was actually made in the 50. Right.

So they're starting looking up all the movies that Matt Dillon has been in, trying to figure it out. It just was comical because it shows you a difference in age. So you kept missing Matt Dillon. And then they finally put it together. Oh, Gunsmoke, the old Western is the character, Matt Dillon. So I just thought we laughed about it when Al was telling them. All of those episodes.

it's a picture of the 1950s. And before then, they portray an 1800s. Right. Still, Indian Wars or whatever. But you look at it. Every issue, I mean, from love, hate, you know, the, what, add the knowledge, goodness, perseverance, Godliness, brotherly kind, it's all in there.

Well, I walked in today and they were just, it was just silence. Like, everything was just like, were locked in like we were watching you know like the latest movie yeah and it was black and white gunspoke which all were locked into it I was like I was chuckling because I was thinking about that what we were talking about the podcast yeah they're good though I mean they were timeless it was like and they teach you really good lessons too oh yeah which is really good all right so I had a question and I'm going to pose it but we're we don't have any more time so we're answered in the in the overtime so if you want to follow us over you can hear the answer to it but um this

person, Cindy, said they want to ask you this question, but I said, I'm trying to help someone who confessed to having an abortion many years ago. They were young and their parents encouraged the abortion. And I guess they've heard your story. And now years later, they feel deep regret and guilt. And so she's wondering what to stay about it. And so obviously you have a lot of experience in that. So we're going to answer that in the overtime and maybe a couple more questions.

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