Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 660 | The REAL Cause of All of Jase's Childhood Fights & Phil's BEST Food Ever

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

What did Jase fight about his entire childhood? What food does Phil recommend above all else? These questions and more are answered while the guys dissect the meaning of Jesus’ words “I am the bread of life.” The guys reminisce about their own childhood favorite meals and ponder the motivation of one of Jesus’ most famous miracles.  In this episode: John 6, verses 35, 41, 48, 51; Exodus 16 "The Blind" hits theaters in 2023. Get updates, trailers, behind-the-scenes moments, and special opportunities here: https://theblindmovie.com — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right, welcome back to Unashamed. I'm still at the Southern Lair with a house full of company, family. You know, it's interesting because Robertsons, not only do we love to eat and cook, but we're usually planning out a day or two or sometimes three in advance. So we got down here, Jay's our first night, my friend Eddie, who's a fisherman down here, he's an old captain for a boat guide service down here. So he caught some red snapper and some Papineau down the beach. And I think he had a few red fish in there too. But he said, hey, I don't have to fire some fish.

I know you got family coming in and said, oh, man, Eddie, that'd be perfect. We figured out what time everybody was coming in. And so, so, Dad, you'll appreciate this. I kind of had a hankering back to my childhood. And so I told Lisa, I said, you know, I want to have some pinto beans with my fish. Because when we grew up, we always had pinto beans and with fish. Now, I don't really know why, but that was just we always said, so dad, maybe you can tell me why, but we always had a pot of pinto beans.

Fish were easy to catch and beans were cheap. Okay. No, that's what I concluded. Because I remember when I thought when I was going to get married, I said, one of the things I'm going to change is I'm going to separate the beans from the fish. I'm going to make that. We still love them, right, Jay? I eat pinto beans at least once a week. But I have rice with it.

And then I have, we have the cornbread, which caused a lot of controversy in our family. Because everyone took the same recipe and made their version. of the hot jalapeno cornbread. And I believe my wife won the competition, but everybody believes their family won that competition, which is why you have the different versions of the cornbread. It even made an episode of the show, yeah. Yeah, when I have fish, I just, I don't, I don't,

I don't want to fill up the stomach with beans when I have fish. So, Jayce, I broke through. I broke through the old wall. So I went back. We made the beans. But we made them the sort of upgraded ver. Not the full with the meat and everything, just beans. And we had fish.

And it was great. We had the chow chow dad. We had the pickled tomatoes. The only thing I didn't have that we had when I was growing up was the pasta and tomatoes. But I think the only reason we had that may have been, again, cheap just to feel your stomach. But I think that was because my uncles and aunts. couldn't eat anything fried.

And so they did that just for them. That was my guess, but I don't know. But they always used to have some like macaroni and fresh tomatoes for them. But we didn't do that. So we had that the first night. We were already planning the next day. We had mom's meatloaf. Alex made that delicious.

Perfect. Missy makes that as well. We've totally got mom's recipe down for that. And then at the same time, I made last night, I cooked, I smoked first. and made my first Boston butt, cooked it all night last night. I got it out this morning. I wasn't sure as my first time at it, of course, Stone makes it, you know, at home. And so I was a little nervous about it.

So I took it out of the oven this morning. It's been cooking all night. I took that big fork, Dad. And so the big question is when you take that fork and you go into it, what's going to happen? Because if the fork stops about halfway through, then no good. It was a bust. but the fork goes all the way through it. So it was perfect.

So I hit it again. So we're eating good down here in the neighborhood, as they say, for our big vacation. So that's one positive. All right. So we're going to talk about we're on this IAM series. What do you call it more than a metaphor? Because it is. More than a metaphor.

And we have concluded after a few podcasts about this is that if you, if you wanted to make a list where Jesus being the I am would make sense, the list would be quite lengthy. You know, somebody said, oh, there's seven I.M. statements. And we actually came up with nine, just in the book of John, but seven metaphors, as they say. But actually, it's an endless, anything that happens on the earth, you're going to make a heavenly connection, when you make a heavenly connection, you're going to go to how we relate to God. And that's Jesus being created in the image of God.

John 117, he has made God known. So the list could be quite lengthy, as in to the hundreds. By the way, this is interesting since you hit on that. If I testify about myself, John 5, verse 37, if I testify by myself, just listen to it. My testimony is not valid. If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is valid. You've sent to John, and he has testified to.

the truth. Not that I accept human testimony, but I mentioned it that you may be saved. John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light. I have testimony weightier than that of John, for the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testifies that the Father has sent me. who sent me has himself testified concerning me you have never heard his voice nor seen his form we're back to the invisible god nor does the word dwell in you his daughter does his word dwell in you for you do not believe the one he sent and then we always quote these verses for various reavan you diligently study the scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life these scriptures are

about me, yet you refused to come to me to have life. I just think that... Perfect leading, because we're going to be... ...the way... What's going on there? Well, that's perfect because we're actually going to be in John 6, which he's going to do some testifying. I just give you a warm-up there.

Through a miracle that became a sign that, which is in some Christian segments, is kind of controversial, and that Jesus saying, and I'm the bread of life, you know, whoever feeds on me will have eternal life. People are like, oh, this is, I mean, what kind of statement is that? That's disgusting and just kind of creepy. But they're missing the point that everything in the earth is going to go back to some kind of heavenly existence. And I mean that by the person of God, not necessarily just the things. but I did something I thought was kind of interesting because I thought, well, we're going to be talking about the bread of life.

And the point being that Jesus was giving you a picture, and we'll read it here in a sec, but that if you're feeding on Jesus, that will sustain you, not just for the earth, but for eternity. I mean, that was the spiritual. I mean, he spoke in John 6th, kind of this, I have this bread for the mine, which I think he did that. through the miracle because you think about what miracles are for. And we talked about that last time. They were to show you a sign what I propose of Jesus' character. But it's also, you know, a sign that where all this came from, you know, where did all the earthly, where did this stuff come from?

And how can you figure out, you know, your purpose on earth, how you're getting off, the earth, how you got on the earth, all these questions of life. And so he basically gives a miracle because that makes you think and ask a question, who is this Jesus? Who is this guy? Which is a great question. Every person must ask that question at some point if you value your life and value how long you live. Who is this Jesus? Because his, the statements that he made, the claims that he came out with, there are like no claim that you will ever consider from anyone else that's ever been on the earth. Not even close.

Everybody else says, look, here's some truth on how to extend life or how to go to heaven or how to be regenerated or whatever, reincarnated. But Jesus was the only one that says, oh yeah, there's a God. you're looking at him. I became a human for you. And he made these claims. But what I did, I thought just so we consider the importance of what we put in our body when it comes to food.

So I just did a search of the Internet, top 10 consume food. And, of course, you can imagine hundreds of things came up. So really, there was no, you know, not every. poll that I looked at had the same number one. But there was one number one more than all the others, and I was shocked at what it was. Do you all want to guess? And it's not bread, because that would be too convenient. Some kind of concoction with veggies in them.

Number one, consumed food, and this was just based on me scanning several poles, and I noticed one thing was more than all the others. It was not bread. Al, do you want to give a shot? I would say corn. Now, I thought you might get it. Corn was on the list, on a lot of the list, but not number one. I thought you might get it because you started off talking about beans.

Well, you had the beans, but you didn't have the rice. Rice. Rice. Rice. We eat a lot of rice. Well, now, here's what was depressing. And bread was on most lists, by the list. way. But what was depressing is when I looked at just the U.S. only, because every global

search had what you would think. Rice, pasta was on there, corn, chicken, just the things you would, things people eat. When I did the U.S., oh, it got depressing, because every list had went about like this. Burgers, apple pie, French fries, hot dogs. Look,

I was shocked at this. Chocolate chip cookies. Oreo cookies would be on the same list. Potato chips. Pizza. Chicken was on there, but it was always fried. And the only thing

grilled that I saw in the U.S. list was cheese. No wonder we have a gert. Or do you have a little obesity problem? A girth pro. We call it gert. Jep told me that the last time because, you know, when we're doing this show with the treasure hunting show together,

they're constantly, you know, saying, oh, you know, give Jep a hard time, you know, about whatever. And so I'll say little funny things about his anatomy. me because in our family, we can take a joke. We can take a joke. And he's like, hey dude. I mean, why do you keep bringing that up? I'm like, well, I mean, it's the obvious choice there, Jeff.

So now all of us are. You're on a shit with a lot of skinny people. What do you think they're going to say? So the last trip we took, Jeff literally just, I was like, oh, are you on a diet now? Am I subconsciously getting to? He's like, I'm not doing this because you're getting to me. He said, I just realized, you know, if I keep this up, I may not be here much longer. But it was horrible to be living with two other guys for, you know, seven, eight, ten days at a time.

And we're over there just because you get quite the appetite from Trejohn. You're expending a lot of energy. He's over there, you know, eating Brussels sprouts and lettuce and we're eating everything else. Well, I just, I thought you'd find that fascinating. But man's got to eat and you are what you eat. And so I think Jesus using this metaphor, because you think about it, you are what you eat. I mean, you give it some time and we're going to figure out what you've been getting into. And so Jesus taps into that in John 6.

Now, there's actually two sections. He does the miracle. And we're, I mean, we're very familiar with this miracle. I think it's maybe the only one that's in all four of the Gospels. I know it's in all four of the Gospels. I'm not sure if there's another miracle that is, but I think it's either, there's only a couple, and this may be the only one.

So, 6.1 says sometime after this, Jesus crawls to the far shore, the Sea of Galilee, and a great crowd of people falling because they saw the miraculous signs he had performed in the sick. Then Jesus went up on a mountain, sat down with his disciples. The Jewish Passover feast was near. When Jesus looked up and saw a great crowd coming toward him,

he said to Philip, where shall we buy bread for these people to eat? He asked this only to test him, for I already had in mind what he was going to do, which I love that he's come up with an idea here. Philip answered, eight months' wages would not buy enough bread for each one to have a bite. I mean, so it was kind of an absurd question, but Jesus had a reason for that. So another one of the disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother spoke up.

Here's a boy with five barley loaves and two small fish. And I'll research this barley loaf. It was kind of the lowest form. It was the bread for the poor people. So it's not a whole lot here. Remember that Andrew was kind of the first one on board. and it does make me think that he kind of has a, at least just a mustard seeds worth of where, you know, here's a possibility.

Like, it's almost like it's like, well, here's a guy with a little bit of a, I mean, I get the impression as like, here's some food. Can you do something with this? I mean, that's kind of how I read it. I mean, it seems absurd on both accounts. I mean, what are we going to do with this? We're going to make a bunch of people mad here. Right.

But I think they're more, he's more. he's more looking like this is not going to happen. This is all we got. I mean, we might as well just go ahead and eat this kid's lunch, which is another story. But how far will this go with so many? Jesus said, well, have them sit down.

There was plenty of grass in that place. The men sat down about 5,000. You don't know. You read this. It seems to imply when you get into the Greek and all, it was about 5,000 families. So. Yeah, that there's actually more than 5,000.

It's 5,000 plus. Right. So, because the Greek, when it gets into, you know, the gender thing, their words were a little different. So it's hard to figure that out. But in verse 11, Jesus then took the lows, gave thanks, distributed to those who were seated. And they did the same with the fish. So they start distributing this, which, now look, if it was me, I mean, I'm just, confessing my sins, even though I didn't commit any, I would have because I would have said,

why are we doing it? I would have gripped and complained about this. What there's, how is this going to end well? Especially when it comes to food, because look, if you want to see the soul of man, what do you do? Get him at the table and start passing out the select cuts of meat and the amounts. I've seen a lot of people, I mean, most of the fights that I had in my teenage years revolved around food and my brothers and portion sizes and which parts of the chicken's anatomy was distributed to who. And who got there first and who got the most? I mean, I avoided because I want to be transparent and I try to base everything on truth

and I don't want to make up things. So I'm going to say this. I never actually had a fork stabbed into me. but it was close. I had the attempt. There was an attempted fork stabbing on several occasions, and it all came from Willie. I don't think I'll ever do that, but Willie did.

Jason, what about the, and even to this day, if you want to see a pretty good rancor, if you're in a vacation town, which you guys, you and your family go from time to time, and you're gathered around a busy restaurant at where they're taking names and when to get in,

if there's, if there's an opportunity, for angry people because of somebody's name on a list and I didn't get called when I was supposed to and this person got ahead of me. Even to this day, there can be anger and there can be gnashing of teeth even now over this type of issue, to your point. I mean, even in a civilized society as ours over food and who gets called and who gets a table and who got here first and blah, blah, blah, no doubt.

So to continue the story in verse 12, so when they had all enough to eat, when they had all had enough to eat, which you're like, wait, what? How did this happen? Gather the pieces that are left. They even had leftovers. And we don't even have to get into leftovers. I'm not a big leftover guy, unless something like this would have happened. Let nothing be wasted. So they gathered them and filled 12 baskets with the.

pieces of the five barley loaves left over by those who had eaten. After the people saw the miraculous sign, now notice it said miraculous sign, I made this point on the last podcast. Because the point I was making was he could have done a greater miracle, even though this was fantastic. This still left some room for doubt, because what are people thinking?

You're not believing he actually did this, are you? you would be thinking, well, where are they getting this bread and fit? Somebody, there's a, I'd be looking at tables or tents or behind some rocks. There's a lot of bread and fish coming from somewhere that we're not real sure about. You just wouldn't think. I mean, what could he have done if it was you? He could have just had this giant loaf. you know, descend like a spaceship.

And then at the same time, a giant fish appears out of the water. And then it like cooks itself. And then, well, I'm saying, would that have been... Yes, your imagination has been running overtime in the last two podcasts. If you get my point, it will move you. I mean, it will, you will be like, he's making... making it a sign that he cares about people in an intimate way. Eating is something that you're going to do usually three times a day,

but you're going to do it your whole life. And he cares about that. And you even feel this sense of people that are not getting what they need to eat. You actually, he's eliciting sympathy here. And the fact that he's taking a boy. this given all he had. Because, I mean, you think everybody's happy except him. I mean, he took his lunch, you know.

He probably wanted to go back and show his dad what he caught, you know. I hope he got one of those basket pulls to take back home. Well, hopefully he did. He probably did. So you see the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they began to say, surely this is the prophet who is to come into the world. So he did it enough to know that some are like. like this is not possible.

Whatever he has done here, Jesus knowing that they intended to come and make him king by force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself. So what were the people's response to the miracle? Well, a lot of them said, oh, this guy's powerful. We could win an army with him because we wouldn't have to worry about food. I mean,

yeah, that's the backdrop. That's crazy. So we'll skip. That's kind of the underlying key to the whole thing. So we'll skip the, which is another miracle, which he could have said, I am the water, I am the boat, I am. So after he walks on the water, because they're trying to make him king by force, they found him on the other side of the lake, and they said, Rabbi, when did you get here? Jesus answered, I'll tell you the truth, you're looking for me, not because you saw miraculous signs, but because you ate the loaves and had your fill.

do not work for food that spoles but for food that endures to eternal life which the son of man will give you on him God the father's place to seal of approval so then he you know they respond well they asked him well what must we do the works that God requires just tell us what to do which is a which is a terrible thing to say because why would you ask that question we know why we ask that because we want to know what is the minimum possible thing that i have to do to be okay that's just the nature of man but jesus says the work of god is this to believe in the one he has sent which is another mindbender the work of god is to believe in the one he sent well how is that work you know that doesn't seem it's kind of like

an I am statement where it's a brain teaser. Because he's basically saying, I am the requirement. You see? That's right. Which goes back to I am the law of Moses thing. I am the law of Moses. Those criticizers, they just missed it. It's a good statement.

So they asked him, well, what miraculous sign then will you give that we may see and believe you? What will you do? Now here we have another record scratch moment from the human beings. This whole thing started with the miraculous sign. And now you want another one? Which is what I said. The reason he didn't give this bread, you know, falling from the heaven in low form with a whale coming out of the sea and being cooked and then raining the cooked parts down on them is because it would have only promoted something that he was not after. which is it would have promoted them following him, but not from the heart.

Not out of love, not out of understanding, but only fear. That's my opinion. So verse 31 says, our forefathers ate the man in the desert as written. He gave them bread from heaven to eat. So they think it's tied up with that. But Jesus said, I tell you the truth. It is not Moses who's giving you the bread from heaven, but it is my father who gives you the true bread from heaven.

for the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. Sir, they said from now on, give us this bread. Oh, here we go. Then Jesus declared, I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry. He who believes in me will never be thirsty. So he actually said, you know, I am the water. I mean, he had just said in John 4, you remember with the conversation,

I'm the living water, whoever drinks. It's the same concept. But as I told you, you have seen me, and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me. All that the Father gives will come to me, and whoever comes to me, I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will, but to do the will of him who sent me. This is the will of him who sent me that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.

For my father's will is that everyone he looks to the son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. At this, the Jews began to grumble. You're like, wait, what? Why are they grumbling? They're grumbling because he said, I am the bread that came down from heaven.

They saw it, they tasted it, and then are mad because he's, He's what Phil Jep. See, they were making this point about Moses, which is where they're trustworthy. You got to remember, this is Jewish audience. They're like, who do you think you are? I mean, the claim is so outlandish because you're claiming to be the God of heaven and earth. So they first, they want to make him king.

Why? So they can take over the world from a physical realm. Israel will now take over the world because we got somebody who can make something out of the air and he can make food. No, tell him what he can do with a sword if he can do this with bread. So then they have a conversation with him and now they're offended because he seems to be acting like he's greater than Moses. and they're like, this is sacrilegious. And they're missing the point of what he's saying, because if what he's saying is true,

then you need to put your faith and trust in him. He's the fulfillment of the law of Moses. He is the fulfillment of prophecy. I mean, he's better than whatever you thought you had. Yeah, I want the bread, but I don't want, I don't want you. I don't want the man. That's what they're saying. because then they said, is this not the son of Joseph, his father and mother we know?

How can he say it came down from heaven? In other words, again, they can't see him. He can't be an I am, but then they can't explain how he could do what he did. It's the same old cycle that they keep running themselves in. Yeah, exactly. And basically he's saying, I am the miracle. Right. that's what they're looking at what he can do, but they're not connecting that, which, look, we weren't there.

And it's hard for the human to believe, I mean, I'm skeptical about anything, just by nature, especially things that are not aligning with the laws of nature. I mean, so I think you have that, because if this is true, this changes this should change everything your your belief system your heritage your plan moving forward i mean that that's the nature of this and so i thought of this you know in the in the message he sent to john the baptist to go into that that jesus cares not on i mean he was doing miracles that shows that he cares about people i mean you remember what he said uh in i think it's method Matthew 11,

Matthew 11, 4, and 5. Just to give you the picture of that, these miracles not only were a demonstration of power. Yeah, when he replied, go back and report to John, what you hear and see. The blind receive the sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured,

the death here, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poet. Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me. Well, why would he bring up six issues here? All revolving around suffering, injustice, status of people. I mean, he brings up the poor, people who can't hear, of people that have died, all these things, people that are blind,

people that have diseases, what does that cause in our society? All of these things cause pain and suffering and anxiety and tears and mourning and grieving. And so Jesus is doing these miracles to give you something way bigger than a meal. And we need meals, you know, to sustain us. And so I think that's the part that I find the most inspiring. is that he's not only just, there's a, there's a lot of variables going on. He's not only claiming to be the son of God and then showing the power that he has. He's also showing an underlying current that he cares about people,

that he wants to do this the right way, that he has a plan for you. He wants to change the world socially, economically. He's just turning the whole world upside down right in front of the world. their eyes. And he also doubles down though, Jay's. So they're, they're, they're wavering here in this moment. But watch what he does. So twice, he's going to double down, but he's going to take it sharper. Because he says, he tells him, quit grumbling amongst yourself. He drives down in verse 46. He says, no one has seen the father except the one who is from God. Only, only he has seen the father. I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life. I am the bread of life. He says it again,

your forefathers ate the man in the desert yet they died so now he's saying look it's way more than the bread but here is the bread that comes down from heaven which a man may eat and not die i am the living bread that came down from heaven if anyone eats of this bread he will live forever this bread is my flesh uh-oh which i will give for the life of this world and now he's taking it to another level. He's saying, this, you must eat of my flesh to live forever. So he's now taking them to another level to grasp. And of course, the next verse says they begin to argue sharply among themselves. How can this man give us his flesh to eat? And so that's where, you know, even through the centuries after this context, you know, cannibalism. I mean, there's been,

like you said earlier, there's been all sorts of controversy around this concept. in this idea about what Jesus was talking about here. But I like it that he's going to take it. He doesn't like try to ease up and say, now look, you know, let me try to lighten this understanding of what I mean by saying I am the living bread. What he says is no, I am literally the living bread. And I think by doing that, he's given them a sign,

not with just this miracle, but all the other ones in the letter that I read about to John of Baptist, is he's actually giving. given a thought that people don't address is he's saying the world doesn't have to be like this. It doesn't have to be broken. You know, this is what gets me about people who deny Jesus as the Son of God. Because when they, when you, what are you left with without Jesus? You're left with a broken world. and there's no alternative.

Here comes Jesus doing these miracles, these signs that are historically documented. And he's actually giving you an idea that as a human, you're never going to find on the earth anywhere else. And the idea is it doesn't have to be this way. You just think about every miracle that he did, it was some aspect of brokenness, pain that was released. And so to me, that alone, just when you pile all the miracles up for the reason,

shows you, you know what, there's a way to renovate the whole spiritual aspect of society when it comes to pain, suffering, injustice, being poor, you know, being homeless. You know, it's a thought here. It's not about just, you know, a meal. He's taking this to another level that is almost beyond what we can grasp. But if you put all his miracles into one big basket, that's what you're going to find. It's relieving basic human necessities, brokenness, pain, you know, conflict. I mean, everybody's fine when they're being well fed.

But when you get hungry, all of a sudden, we got a problem here. What's wrong with this place? Because unfortunately, I don't know what the homeless rate is and those that are without food, but it would probably surprise you to see that. A lot. It's a lot. Yeah. So my point is he's addressing himself as being one who can sustain you mentally,

because he's making you think physically. that is an aspect. Now, they took it the wrong way. They're like, oh, we need to make him king. We need to go conquer the world because he can take care of our physical needs, you know. They missed it. But also of the heart, which is what you were just referring to, Al, the spiritual ramifications of this are off the charts. If he is who he said it was.

You said it, Jay. It's the temporary and the earthly versus the, and the earthly versus the, the eternal. And that becomes the whole thing. Because it was back where we started the podcast. You know, you can, when you eat a fine meal and you're full, and you're thinking, man, that was just so delicious and so good. I mean, even before you can even just fully enjoy that, you start realizing in your mind

that, you know what, in about eight hours, I'm going to be hungry again. I mean, I'm not even fully enjoying what I just. eat, but I realize I'm going to get hungry again. It's the nature of being a human being on earth. It's just, it's never fulfilling. And so that's the point he's making. You know, when God was sending the manna down and later the quail, in the temporary human nature of things, it doesn't, I mean, the next day,

they're hungry again. What he's saying is, I'm offering you something that's far greater than the temporary fulfillment of your stomach. I'm offering you something that's forever. I'm offering you something that that's going to fulfill you beyond just an eight-hour temporary. My stomach's full and it was a fine meal. This is something greater. And they were just having a hard time wrapping their mind around it because they could only see in the temporary conquering of what they had.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. If this world is all there is and there's no God, then just take all the injustice and all the brokenness and all the physical challenges that people have. well, that's all just natural. If there's no God, look, and then there's no answer. All these drugs and all of these things that our culture and that culture participate in by feeding on that. Whether it's the rehabs, the hospital rooms, the ones, the prisons, it just goes on and on and on. It's just a lot of unhappy individuals. They're eating the wrong food.

they're eating the wrong food and look so when you think about this was he trying to come up with a religious plan or was he you know what was the sign you know signs point to something so here he does this and we read all that on purpose because it helps you understand you know the context of him making this statement i am the bread of lie but i want you to notice something in john six going back to john six if you read where i left off the last section I read 34 through 40. Watch how many times he says I or me in this. So when he says in verse 35, then Jesus cleared,

I am the bread of life, but he continues this. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believe in me, but as I told you, you have seen me, and still you do not believe, all that the father gives me will come to me and whoever comes to me, I will never all right. I think you're going to get to multiple times.

He's trying to say, there is a God and you're looking at him. Body, soul, and spirit will be perfectly fine. The earth, the way it is run is not natural. it's become this way because of man's sin there's evil in the world you're perishable he's come to relieve all that it's so when you read the john 5 it was a perfect lead-in even though we didn't discuss it because here's a group of people who believe in god they have a heritage based on the old law and he had just chastised them same group saying you think that by these scriptures you're going to possess eternal life, but you refuse to come to me. And he's declaring that the God of the universe has come to Earth. He is a man. His name is Jesus.

You're looking at him. And he's showing these miracles and signs. But what I love about it is he's doing it always in practical ways that are the answers to all of earth's problems. He's not doing it in some kind of sad. show with, you know, Hollywood graphics of all these crazy things that we think we want and these things that we think are going to answer the world's problems. He is embodying that. He's, he is the bread of life. He is the door. He is the gate. It's going to get more intimate as we go

along. You know, he knows the sheep by name. He is the resurrection. He is the life. You put, you start stacking all these things together. And you're like, well, what, what am I sitting here on the sidelines for? He literally has come down in pursuit of me, found me, and said, here's every reason in the world to follow me. I want to read this last section. Just got a little bit of time left before we get to overtime because he doubles down one more time. And I want to discuss it here at the end and then also in our overtime because he's going to bring another element in. And to me, this must have blown their minds because already they're struggling in this context to understand.

And then he's going to bring one more element into the picture after they're saying, how can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then he says this in verse 53, I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man. So they're trying to put their heads around that. Now he says, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. So now he's added an element of his blood into it. And of course, we know what that means looking back, but they, of course, have no idea in the moment.

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I and him. Just as the living father sent me and I live because of the father, So the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate man and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever.

He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Copernum, which we know, remember, was a place where they were having a hard time except him anyway. Remember it was in Gaparneum. So now he brings in the concept of the blood, which of course will be the blood of the covenant, the, you know, blood of the lamb, the whole idea of the Passover and all the concepts are going to go along with that. But I just, I like in this context, he doesn't hold back on the full concept of these sort of spiritual concepts brought out of a physical construct. You know, it's the idea, they understood blood and they understood sacrifice. I mean, every Jewish mind got

it. But now he's putting it in his context, like, because he is divine. I mean, He just gave him the whole package in one conversation. Yesterday we drank his blood and ate his flesh. That's right. The brothers were there. We stopped, and that was right in the middle of the service. But it's pretty incredible that that's still there. After 2,000 years, you still were practicing.

The transition happened after what we read, you know, when the Jews in verse 41 and I mean transition in that he went from appealing to their minds with doing the miracle appealing to their flesh which is we do need food just I mean they were hungry and he fed them physically that happened and then but what happened they got the wrong idea they started following him around because evidently the fish and bread that he was making out of heaven was good and they wanted some more of it I mean this was the primo meal because now he's like, y'all are just following me around because you want some more of that fish and bread.

They translated his goodness into firepower. Well, because I think it was good. And that's what people do, you know. If you feed people, which we've all done, we've invited people to our homes, and we cook them the best, and we share Jesus at that meal. Well, there is, unfortunately, a certain percentage of people. who will keep coming to hear that Jesus sermon just so they can eat that meal. Yeah.

I don't want to get into that. Well, that's the way. Well, that's what happened to Jesus. It is true. But he made a transition to the part about eating his body and the controversial part of it. And I'm saying that happened in 41 because they got mad when he said, I'm the bread that came down from heaven. And they said, well, verse 42, is this?

not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother, we know. How can you say I came down from that? So they're, because they're making this physical, well, we know you. The same that happened in the chosen and when they concluded when he said, I am the law of most, same thing happened right here. They're like, no, we know this guy. You're not from heaven. You can't make, I don't know what the trick is here, but you're not who you're claiming to

be. Now watch what Jesus said. He said, stop grumbling among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the father who sent me draws him and I'll raise him up at the last day. Well, all of a sudden, he transitioned it into the spiritual side of things. Talking about the father drawing him. Well, what is that? Well, the only thing I could conclude, and I'd be interested, to hear your thoughts is that we all have this spiritual hunger in us, all of us. All of us can see creation and be on the earth, and we know right from wrong. We know that there's got to be more than this. Are you telling me this is natural that the whole world's broken and evil triumphs?

No, there's got to be something more. We have a spiritual hunger. We all as human beings have this. hunch about us that there's something more to this, whether it comes by creation or the spiritual side of things or realizing good and evil, the need for love. And so I think that's why when he got to that section that he was planting that seed, you've noticed something is wrong with this picture. And here I am. I've come to clear that up for you. And I'm the way. So when he makes this analogy about eating his flesh and blood, it's a spirit, the spiritual connotations of doing that,

yes, we do feed on Jesus and his blood is going to clean us up, but it's not going to be our power, it's going to be his. That was basically what he was transitioning into is what I think. You're right. You're right on that, Jace. I think so, too. And we'll talk a little bit more about that, as well as the, as dad brought up the modern implications of that because we still practice this as he instituted on the night before his death

with this idea about the Lord's suffering communion. So we'll talk about that a little bit in the overtime segment because we're out of time. If you want to follow us over, it's blazedtv.com slash unashamed as we continue talking about the more than a metaphor, I am statements out of John and possibly a few other places because I guess you could say not only I am the bread of life chase, but I am the blood of Christ. or I am the blood as well, so we found another one. So we'll see you in overtime. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.

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