Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 671 | Phil Pulls a ‘Thor’ on a Crowd of People & Jase Totally Bombs His Last Speech

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Jase has a frightening experience while treasure-hunting an old ghost town in North Texas. Phil is dubious about this hobby, and Jase’s jokes fell flat during his latest appearance. The guys give an overview of the book of Luke and its author, which will be the subject of their new study. Plus, what does the Bible say about treasure hunting?  In this Episode: Luke 1, 1-4; Acts 1, 1-2 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashame. I'm in the southern lair today. So we came down here. Lisa had a, she spoke at the First Baptist Gulf Shores at the ladies' day. She had a packed house down here, which is kind of neat. It's kind of interesting because we're kind of in and out down here. So you kind of start knowing some people, although we have a church back home, start to know some folks and, you know, get to know some people in the community. So it was kind of fun to see her get up and do her thing down here.

So I kind of went and did her PowerPoint for it and stayed in the shadows, as they say. But we sold a few books to some of the folks down here and met some people. Of course, they kind of know us, Chase, because we've been coming down here for 30 years vacationing. And so I don't know, people feel like they kind of know us, I guess because of the show and stuff too. but it was fun. So we don't have Zach today.

He's somewhere doing business. You know how he is. Well, we'll miss him. Yeah, we'll miss him. Well, I've been on the road as well. I went to North Texas in the middle of nowhere. I found this ghost town on a map. And so make a long story short,

I had a series of conversations with people in real estate, got the landowner, and he listened to our podcast, so that was a big win. He wasn't convinced that this town was on his property, but it is. And so we went out there, Mary and I went out and found it. The problem was it had grown up so much. It was about knee-high in weeds and grass. The ground was as hard as concrete. When were the first structures built there to where you could call it somewhat of the town?

It was early 1900s. And so, yeah, and it was a town. I saw a picture. He had a picture of the town the way it looked in, I think, in the 1920s. So roughly 100 years. Yeah, 100 years ago. So I was so excited to find it. But then I was, it was unhuntable.

You know, those detectors, you got to have access to the ground because they don't go very deep. And plus the ground was so hard. I lost, after I dug about three holes, I lost all feeling in my right leg, you know, for about two or three days. I mean, it was just pounding the ground. Was that from a ground rattler or just banging on? There were rattlesnakes around.

Two or three times I stepped. I wasn't using my earphones. for that reason because I said, you know. Cruising out through a thicket in North Texas can be dangerous to your health. I just figured if it was my time to go, it was my time to go. Yeah. But I noticed my partner, one Murray Crow, he just kind of walked around there, stayed on the road and watched me look.

He said, I ain't going into that thicket. So anyway, it was a bit of a bus, but we did that because we had an event. on the way back home. So we were going to be out there anyway. We did an event for the actual metal detecting company that, you know, sponsors us on the show. And so it was in Canton, Texas. Canton is where a lot of people go, especially women, they go shopping, antique shopping.

You've been, and yeah. Oh, yeah, it's a big, it goes certain days of the week, but it's a big deal. Mom's been over there, Dad, spending some of your long green on several occasions, buying more junk to fill up your house.

She goes or the trail of the long green. She has hoarding tendencies, Phil. Yeah. Does she have hoarding tendencies? So what we did was for, you know, Garrett,

the company that I'm with, they put this hunt on. It's called a seeded, hunt and what that means is they go out there in this field in the edge of the woods and they put all this valuable stuff in the ground before the hunt and there were hundreds of people that show up so so a hundred people had buried various things well yeah i don't know how many of them that that it i mean it's so they buried silver and like indian had pennies and all kind of civil war relics like buckles and there's bullets and there's buttons and and it's literally look they all

line up on the field they found them once old things yeah they found them once but they buried or re-bared them and so they re-barry them and so still looking I don't know how many hundreds of people but I don't know that doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun to me oh Phil look just look so everybody lines up you it's you line up the the field think that it's you know like a square and you got woods. And it's like, you know, because what happened was right before they shot the cannon, I noticed a dove flew across that field, and I thought, boy, you better be glad. Because most time when you have that, you know, a lot of people gather up in a field,

they dove. So they, one, two, three, they shoot a cannon. And when the cannon starts, it's just, it's, I don't, I'm going to guess at 500 people. Maybe it was more than that. they just descend on the field. Well, one way, I guess, to find treasure, and they figured it out, is replanted in the ground where it started from

and just keep looking. Sound like to me there's a whole lot of looking. I don't know how much fun that is, Jay, says. Oh, it was fun. I found, I think I found three silver coins. I never moved over 30 feet because I thought, number one is when you get that many people with detectors, the interference that's happening on your detector is hard to explain

because everybody's getting on your frequency. These people were just, some of them are running, some of them are walking. I thought it was pretty fun. Well, I would think the equipment to find treasure, I would think that that would be a pretty good line of work to get into. And these days, if that many people are going to show up just to look. I was surprised as how many people. So, like I said, I found a couple Indian head people.

pennies, a couple Civil War bullets. I found a necklace. They had it in a bag, you know. So anyway, it was fun. I mean, I did a lot of meeting and greeting and saw a lot of people in the treasure hunting world, so it was fun. Murray was with me. So then at... I guess it's a way to just look at things of the past, you know, just find anything of the past,

and you tend to say, hmm, I wonder what that is. Well, I'm going to make the spiritual application. So they had a speaking. I went to this last year, but last year I just said three or four minutes before we took off. You know, I was basically just saying let's hope no one gets hurt here, you know, just for that many people. But it's a joke. So I'll tell you the last thing I did. You were like the Grand Marshal of the kickoff.

Well, I actually got to shoot the cannon last year. So, which was, I mean, I didn't realize it was that loud and that powerful. When you pull the cord, I mean, it shook my chest, just cold. Did you see the end of the golf tournament yesterday, Jay's the one that doing Hilton Head, South Carolina? No, I have not watched TV in at least a week. So they have the one that's after the Masters every year in Hilton Head, and they fire a cannon when the guy wins it. And the guy who won the U.S. Open won it yesterday in a playoff. He's on the 18th Green, and it's on the 18th T.

And so they fired it, but it was showing him, you know, and he wasn't expected. It scared it. It was so funny because it just happened to catch it on camera. It made me think about it when you said that. Yeah, it was funny. It kind of reminds me of I saw a blurb this morning as I was drinking my coffee, and a guy was laying out on his little veranda, whatever you call it, a little porch thing,

had a roof, he had a little bed there, and he was sitting there reading the paper, and all of a sudden he looks up, jumps in kind of looks, because there's about a 400-pound bear that is just walking, got on his porch, and he's reading the newspaper, and he looked up,

and the 400-pound bear is about 6 to 8 feet from him, and the bear looked at him, He looked at the bear, but he just sit there with his newspaper. He didn't move. So the bear just walked on by, you know, it's kind of one of them to do. That bear was the grand marshal of the porch. Nobody really knows about it, but he just shows up, Jace. I don't know.

I don't know why that's funny, but it is. So we go then, that lasted for like three or four hours. So you hunt. I mean, you start seeing people. They literally. Well, I think they found everything that was put out. I mean, you get five, six hundred people. No, move a little further.

I put them on the other side of that bush there. No, they just find it. And so then we went to the, so what, meanwhile, they have this, it's kind of like these shows where people have boosts, you know, but it's all treasure hunting. And it's people's finds and all the equipment. Everything you've ever thought about in the treasure hunting world is in the arena, or kind of like the Civic Center, I guess,

what you'd call it. And so, so Murray and I, of course, Murray, you know, is new to this fame. And he was, he, because he said, well, you, you speak, you know, and I'm like, oh, no, you're, you're on the TV show. You're coming up there with me. And so he was a little nervous about it. But I said, well, I'll do a five-minute speech. And then we gave away some detectors, because I have some with my name on it. so they're new or whatever. So they gave some to the crowd. I mean, they're just promoting, you know, what we do. You've added a whole other context to the word looking.

Well, that's what I was going to say. So that was my first, though, official speech at a treasure hunting event. And so, of course, you all know, I've always deal what you did as far with the duck calls. Just use that as a platform. So, I mean, you know, I get into the Genesis. is nine about hunting and go through the duck calls. So this was a whole different thing. So here's, maybe y'all can help me with my, I mean, I think it ended well because I made

some spiritual application. You know, there's a lot in the Bible about treasure hunting. So I decided to start with, I said, you know, this is a transition. I'm known as being a duck caller. So I got the mic. I'm like, you know, I'm Jays. usually when I do that they're like hey jays you know kind of like the celebrate recovery but this was crickets and uh and i said you know i've i've always done this in the duck hunting world

but this is in the treasure hunting world so i i say you see the similarities crickets nobody's chuckling like i like to hunt was was my theme and so then i told the story about when when I met my wife and we dated and eventually fell in love, I told the story that when her dad asked me how I was going to provide for his daughter if we got married, I was too embarrassed to say make duck calls. So I told him about me saying that I would be an air traffic controller, which I didn't realize he was as gullible as he is. So he thought I was serious. And it actually was when It was fun. So this is my big joke.

You were trying hook and hook or crook. Yeah, I said so now. That woman. I said, so now I've moved to ground transportation. I thought that was funny. So the duck hunt world, do you get it? The air traffic. Anybody laugh?

None. Do you not think that's funny? No, it's clever. Ground transportation. Especially on top of air traffic control. Yeah, I get it. Transporting things. So then I explained the joke, and then I got a few chuckles.

So I thought, which I'm at a stage of my life where it doesn't, silence doesn't bother me. Sounds like a tough crowd. That's what I was thinking. Of course, you got to remember, it's in an arena. They all have boosts and all, and basically everybody just turned around. I mean, they had a few hundred chairs in the middle, and there were people seated. It's a tough setting, I guess. It's not like you're, and I don't think they were used to having a speaker.

So I said, well, I got to move on from this. This is not working. So then I just went spiritual. So I said, really what I'm about, there's a lot in the Bible about treasure hunting. And so I held the Bible up and said, this is what I'm about. So I didn't notice, I was surprised, is about half the audience when I did that, they clapped. So I took that as a good time. You thought there was still hope.

So I quoted... Well, when you always know when you hold the Bible up and get applause, that's a good sign for an audience. So I quoted Proverbs 2, 4, and 5, which I'm pretty sure y'all do not know from memory what that says. Am I right? I do not. Because y'all are not treasure hunters or metal detectors. But did you know this? So I don't...

Well, was Proverbs right now? A few thousand years ago. Three? Longer, yeah, three. So it says if you look for, you know, wisdom and understanding, if you look for wisdom and understanding, it says in verse four, if you look for it as for silver

and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God. Well, that crowd So looking is in Searching That crowd Understand something that you

Or out, you don't understand When you're going through with a detector Because you're finding Most of what we find is trash There's a reason it's in the ground When you find like silver Because silver holds up well I mean it looks spectacular

Coming out of the ground Even though it may have been there hundreds of years. There's just a moment that you're like, it's hard to describe. It's exciting. It's exhilarating.

It's a certain amount of worth in it. It's valuable. So I knew all those people knew what that felt like. And so, of course, I didn't make the comparison. the proverb writer compared that to understanding the Lord finding you and having wisdom in the Lord. I mean, I thought, what an analogy.

Yeah. So I get it. Oh, it's exciting. It's riveting. So I started there, and then I was headed toward, and I got that. It's kind of like a picture of immortality. silver has a long, it's tough, it can stay there a while. Well, I mentioned the, you know, the few parables with Jesus, you know,

and then I explained the point of the Bible. I went through my three questions, you know, what do you, I got three questions for you and what are you doing on the earth? I mean, how did you get here? What are you doing here? And how are you leaving? And I was like, those three questions always get people's attention because we're humans.

And if you find the answers to those, it'll bring you peace and joy and confidence and clarity and purpose. So, and so then I explained the Bible that it points to Jesus. You know, he's coming to the earth. He's here. So you have the Gospels, and he's coming back. And so then I used some of the parables that he referenced. And one of them I mentioned, you know, was Luke 15,

where he compared the reason he entertained and met, you know, strangers, even as those with bad reputations, and the really sinful is that he told that story. The reason I'm engaging human beings, it's because if something

is lost, there's a joy when someone finds it. He tells three stories. One of them is a woman who had lost a coin, and she swept all night into her house a valuable coin until she found it. So I'm like, why is the creator of the universe using something like finding lost treasure compared to him coming to the earth to redeem people.

I mean, there must be a lot of joy in it. So I just think it was interesting for the crowd. And so, of course, I was trying to introduce Jesus to the crowd because that's really, you know, what we're about. But I'm going to tell you, it went really well. And so then I closed and I introduced Murray. and so Murray came up and we did a Q&A which lasted for an hour and so here was the best part of the Q&A so everybody's firing questions from Duck Dynasty questions

to treasure questions to there were two spiritual questions one of them was what is your what book do you recommend which book of the Bible do you recommend to start out reading and what was the other question uh I can't remember of the specific question, but maybe like, what is the point of the Bible? It was something like that. Well, here's what's powerful. Those two questions came from a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old. And I was kind of moved by that. And so after they asked the second, because one of them was the last question on which book do you recommend, which I recommended the book of John,

and I gave an invitation at that point because, no, it's a sad. We're in Canton. This is not a church building, but I was like, here's your invitation. You go home and read the book of John and see who Jesus is in your mind because that's the most important view that you'll have of anything because it'll change your character and your actions from that day forward. Good or bad, whether you follow him or not. So how you view Jesus. And Jesus is, I mean, John is a good picture of that. So then I had those two boys up on stage and I didn't have any.

spare duck calls. So I had four duck calls on my lanyard. Because I didn't have my hunting calls. These were more the ones I've demoed through the years or whatever. And one of them was the championship style call. So, but so I gave them each one of those two off my lanyard. And, and I, and so then I looked at the audience and I said, look, if you're wondering how our young people feel about the current spiritual situation, I thought. it fascinating that of all the questions we got, the two spiritual questions came from a 10-year-old and a 12-year-old who were not sitting next to each other. I was like, I think we need to go home and talk to our kids about spiritual matters. That's the sign because all the adults didn't know

no spiritual questions. So I kind of chastised them a little bit, but mixed with love and grace in saying, look, let's have spiritual conversation about our kids. They're obviously curious about those three questions and about what's in this Bible. So that was kind of the wrap up. And, of course, you can imagine what happened. So after this Q&A, we were bum rush. Because we were behind a table and a wall. So some were responding.

And you created a stir. Oh, it was a stir. Murray was looking at me like a deer in the headlights. And I would say most of the conversations, because we signed, you know, things and took pictures were around spiritual matters. So I felt really good about that. Yeah, that last event I was at,

I told them how I got started, you know, building duck calls and all that, you know, and I just, a moment hit me, and I just took my duck calls. I showed them all about what duck sound like. Oh, you told us that, and then you threw them to the crowd? To the crowd, and there was quite the scuffle. Yeah. for them for them for them zoned in on them duct calls i just threw them out to the crowd and i just just just where they hit it was just a it was a lot of jumping around yeah well that's why

but dad the way you just described that i was imagining like a soft toss to the crowd but i actually saw it being videoed how you did that and you kind of did it like like like like Thor, on the movie, did his anvil. You kind of did a little whipping action with the... It was too much.

It was too much going toward the crowd after I saw him. You did a whipping action, and then it just shot out of there like a cannon. And I was just praying when I watched the video that nobody was decapitated by your lanyard of duck calls. I don't know whether it was. I left all of that thinking. I don't know whether that was a good idea.

or not. No, everybody was fine. I did check. I did follow up. Everybody was good. But I was laughing because of the way you, you kind of did a little wind-up.

What most of them didn't know was those duck calls had hung around my neck for about a decade, about 10 years. No, it was quite the, it was quite the generous gift. I'm sure that whoever got it was proud to get it. No, Jay's, I thought that was an excellent. approach to that. And especially being your first time. And I love the progression by going ancient to more recent in terms of the biblical approach because I think that was really good. And then right into the modern vernacular, because I think it does show that people are still searching and seeking. And look, you can find biblical, you know, relevance to any hobby. And I think you showed that. I think that that's an excellent way to approach that. I think it's a great way to show.

audience because people are always saying how can I be relevant how can I share my story how can I share faith but I think you showed an excellent way to do that you just have to be willing to be bold enough to do that and to talk about the things you enjoy doing and share your faith I think the point I didn't I didn't share yet that really got their attention because you got to remember you know the process of treasure hunting is you got to find the stuff and then there's a cleaning you that's just just as important as finding it is the way you clean it, because whatever metal it's made of dictates a certain, you know, set of parameters that you have to use in cleaning,

or you can ruin it even after you find it if you, you know, copper is different as compared to brass or silver or gold. So I basically made the analogy because there at the end, And when I said, why Jesus? What separates Jesus, you know, from just being another religious guy or why Jesus? I said, well, when you think about it, what he did when he came down as God in human form is he showed us how to live, he revealed the character of God in not only his teachings, but his heart and how he approached people. but he also, you know, went to a cross to basically clean us up.

And then when he came out of the ground, it showed you that, because what's ironic about treasure hunting is we're digging things out of the ground, the same ground, that we'll all be under at some point. You see where I'm going with this. If there's a way for you to come out of the ground, it's going to be Jesus digging you up. And so I made that point. I said, every time I dig a hole looking for something valuable that's lost, a part of me realizes that one day, Jesus, through the power of his spirit, is going to bring my dead body forth from the ground. It's a great reminder.

And he cleaned me up. So I made the cross and the resurrection, you know, as an analogy of what we're doing in the treasure hunt world. And I concluded that by saying, if there's a way to live forever, this is it. So that's how you're coming out of the ground. That's why he did use that as a metaphor. And so I think it was well received. No, that's good. I like it.

I like that, which is made new, which is kind of the whole theme of the Bible, which is kind of to your second question you ask is, you know, what's the theme, that which is made new, which I think is kind of the point of it all. Before we get into our study, because we've got a brand new study today, which I'm super excited about, a couple of things I wanted to mention. One is we want to mention this the next few weeks to kind of prep our audience. So starting the week of May the 7th, they're going to make a little bit of shift, how they release the podcast. So we've been releasing on Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. They're going to start releasing on the Sunday podcast on Thursday. So it'll be Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday instead of on Sundays.

A lot of you obviously spend time with your family and at church on Sunday. And so that's kind of been the least listened to and watch day for podcasts. So they're going to put that during the week. So just kind of giving you a heads up to look for that, that new. release. That'll be the week of May the 7th. Also, I'm going to be in Toledo, Ohio, Thursday, May the 4th. That's a National Day of Prayer. It's called an annual prayer dinner. It's at the premier banquet hall on Thursday, May the 4th. And so you can check that out if you're in that area, Thursday, May the 4th. I'm going to be up there doing a thing for that. So I'm excited about that.

So check it out. So today, Jace, we are excited to be heading into. to the book of Luke. It is the only gospel that we've yet to study. And actually, it's really amazing because it's probably, whether it is the most unique of the four gospels, no doubt about it. I mean, they all have a unique twist on them and take on them because we started with John

because it's probably, it's the most uniquely written John is. But Luke is unique because, it's the only Gentile author, and really it's the only author that wasn't one of the actual eyewitnesses. Well, that's not true, because I guess Mark was too, although he was kind of a ghostwriter. But it's really an interesting read, and so it's the last one of the four that we haven't taken look at on the podcast yet. So I don't know. I guess we're going to kind of start out with these first four verses, but I don't know the best way to dive in here.

I couldn't get past the first four verses. I know. It's so good. You know, it's like when you read something and you know it's there, but then when you try to study it in a deep way, you realize that I just really hadn't given this enough credit for the power that he's presenting on how reliable their accounts are. And he basically made a case for that in the first four verses and the last chapter of Luke. Right. And so we'll read these first four as well as the first couple of verses in Acts. And before we do that, I'll just tell you a little bit about Luke. He was obviously a physician. He's a Gentile, which again makes him different out of the four gospel writers. He's the only Gentile. In Colossians 414, 2nd Timothy, 411, and Philemon 24, he's mentioned. So he was part of Paul's entourage. He traveled around with Paul, and this is where he got a lot of his direct information, obviously, was a part of that group. And that's where we know as a physician. He was obviously very well versed in Greek, which makes this particular gospel would have been very appealing to a Greek audience, which is part of the reason why most scholars believe that it was a included was so that it could

particularly appeal to a Gentile audience. So, of course, and that's part of the reason that he addresses it through Theophilus as well as what he does to Acts chapter one as well. So what came out of this and I just counted him up and looked and I was surprised

that baptism is mentioned about 85 or 90 times in the Bible. All of it from Matthew through the rest of the book, through the rest of the undergoing. But one of the things that surprised me, by the time we get to chapter three, John said to

the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, by the way, half the text of the 85 times baptism is mentioned, half of that is in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and a lot of it in Luke, but he addresses the crowds that come out with him. John said, when we get over here in chapter 3, he said, you brood of vipers, who warns you to flee from the coming wrath? It just surprised me that they were so bluntly, John the Baptist and Jesus too, they were so bluntly about who these people were, dead and their sins. I mean, it was like, I mean, you talk about cutting it to the heart of the matter, you know, produce fruit and keeping with repentance, he said to him after he called him a brood of vipers.

That's pretty amazing, I ought that you would have a message that spread like fire, but it was very blunt. The book of Luke shows you the bluntness of the arrival of Jesus Christ through John the Baptist. Yeah, and Luke is going to give us probably the, well, no doubt, the biggest and greatest picture of John the Baptist in any of the four Gospels. Yep. Both his foretelling and background, no doubt about it. So, Jay, you want to read those first four? Well, what I'd like to do is. Or how you want to get into it.

Yeah, what I'd like to propose. And, you know, I listen to a lot of sermons. I listened to a couple by Tim Keller, who. I love and I read really way more books than I usually do about this just because I didn't realize in this in this battle of I guess cultural apologetics as Zach would say that these four verses and in chapter 24 makes a powerful case for why we believe believe these accounts, specifically the Gospels, Matthew Martin, and John, are so reliable. Yeah.

And so, you know, I read a lot of worldly articles from, you know, the Huffington Post and Time magazine, and how they, what was shocking is how they attack the credibility of the Bible in pretty much the same way, which is, these are just legends. There were tons of them. And basically, their theory is that the church and the Christians had an agenda. And so, like, years later, they took the best ones of the lot, of the, you know, the gospels, and put that into a Bible, you know, to promote the I think most of them are like 300 years later. It was like this organized religion basically got all this lined out. And so in one of Tim Keller's sermons, he addressed that same principle.

And he was using a lot of these same articles, which is how it was led to read them on. He's like, the problem with that, what the culture is saying is that it's just dead wrong. and he's like that's the problem they're just absolutely wrong it's not legend it wasn't like they were making a movie and all these got left on the cutting room floor and there wasn't some agenda you know hundreds of years later where they like fixed a book up that that met their needs or whatever and so i'd like to discuss that and kind of go at it from the theme just in the first couple podcasts about how this, what was the point of Luke writing this

and how this came to be, just really looking at these verses in detail. So I want to read the first four verses, and then I want to read, because I think Jesus explains a lot about the reliability of the Old Testament and what His, His purpose was in chapter 24, so I'm going to read some of that to go along with it.

So when Luke 1, he starts off saying, many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled. And I want to highlight that word fulfilled because it's a common word that Jesus is going to use, especially when it comes to the law. Remember in a sermon on the Mount? He's like, I didn't come to, you know, abolish the law. I came to fulfill it. You remember he would do something and say this was so I can fulfill prophecy. And what we're fixed reading, Luke 24, he came to fulfill a number of things.

So let me just start over reading. Many of them are taken to draw up an account of the things. of the things that have been fulfilled among us. Just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. So he brings up eyewitnesses. Well, why is all of a sudden, are we going to start talking about eyewitnesses here in giving an account?

Because you got to remember back there in their culture, You know, they didn't have social media and magazines and far from it. Yeah, how you made something reliable, even the more I studied on this, which I found fascinating, is people, you know, eyewitnesses were the most important part of telling the story. Because you would take their account and memorize it and pass it down, kind of like, you know, in a way that was vocally said, and people would memorize it to get the facts. And then people would write them down.

So this is based on eyewitnesses, which all of a sudden you're seeing from what our culture says that you read, this is the opposite of coming up with legends and then hundreds of years later, you know, saying, well, which ones are we going with? But they said, we have undertaken, I mean, Lucas Sam, we're going to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled. And they were handed down to us, which means they were spoken from a memorized eyewitness and passed up. That's how they passed them down and recorded and written.

So it's based on eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have, now watch what he says. is carefully investigated everything from the beginning. So it wasn't like he's just going to say, you know, I'm just going to sit down under a tree and write a few things. No, he carefully investigated what was handed down, and he's basing what he said from eyewitnesses. Therefore, you can rely on it.

That's right. It seemed good also, to me, to write an orderly account, so it's the same word that he used in the first verse about, I'm going to, you know, many of under taking a draw up account. Well, I'm going to draw up an account for you. And they, he's doing it for whoever this theopolis is. So that you may know, now here's the key phrase, which is why the world doesn't like this. The certainty of the things. you have been taught, which is not basing your faith and your life on a legend. These are things that have. What he's basically saying in the first four verses is this is history. And there's a lot, your life is riding on it. Yeah. And then we know what he's going to get into.

Well, what is he going to get into? What is he fixedness share in after, in between chapter one and verse, what story is he fixed in a tell? He's fixed to tell the story of Jesus who claim what, to be God in the flesh. And also, I think he definitely has implications when he talks about carefully investigated that he's even making implications of him

as a doctor, a man of science, man of education, that look, This isn't just some guy sitting under a tree either. I mean, in other words, he's saying, I've taken a look at this. I've checked this out and this is the real deal, to your point. So, I mean, he's even making implications that I've looked at this. I've heard the explanations and this is the real deal. I mean, there's no doubt about it.

I mean, there's an underlying implication that he has studied this and this is true. Exactly. Now, I want to read you, before I read chapter 24, because, you know, that I was going to do this, we didn't discuss it. But I feel this is important. I wanted to read a couple quotes that I jotted down. And, you know, I apologize if I didn't get these exactly right, because they were quite lengthy, and I was just making notes. But to give you the spirit of this first quote, this was a British pastor. The name was Dick Lucas.

And he was in a debate with a guy who believed in God, but was saying he was frustrated that there's no watertight, infallible, proof beyond all reason, argument for, you know, God being real. It's like he was in search of just like an argument that could crush all other arguments. And this Dick Lucas, in response to that kind of thinking, said this, I don't believe God has given us this argument. You know, he didn't give us a watertight argument above all arguments,

in which he said, which bothers some. What he did give us was a watertight argument above all arguments, in which he said, which bothers some. What he did give us was a watertight, infallible person. There's no way around him. There's no escape from Jesus. Jesus Christ is the person who by his actions and character destroys all arguments. And the reason I'm reading that quote is because I think what Luke's whole point is, is that he said, look, this came from eyewitnesses.

We've investigated. I'm going to tell you a story. Well, then the story is about a person. It's not a series of arguments trying to. It's like he gave a legal foundation for what he was fixed to share. So you're expecting an argument. But what he does is he reveals a person, which I find fascinating. So that, I wanted to read Luke 24 now.

And I think you'll find this interesting, just to make the point about Luke revealing a person in his name is Jesus. So to pick up at the end, and we'll get into this in detail when we get here, but you remember when this is post-resurrection and Jesus, now he's been raised from the dead at this point, and he's on this road to Amas, and there was a couple of fellows discussing about what. it happened. And I'll pick up in verse first 15. It says, as they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them. Now, I know

it's hard for getting in our mind that, you know, he was just dead for three days. And now he has appeared. And it says, but they were kept from recognizing him, which is

another aspect that Jesus is claiming to be God here. If you can come back from the dead and you can keep other people from recognizing you, you have powers that are not of this earth. So it says, he asked them, what are you discussing together as you walk alone? They stood still, their faces downcast. Now, one of them named Cleophas, and this is why I wanted to read this. Well, you know, Luke records a specific name,

name here and the other one he doesn't give a name but what we're seeing here if this was just a made up legend why is luke given a detail about what the guy's name is when and you know later we'll get into this that all these eyewitnesses if you were making this stuff up and put this in a book wouldn't people come up and say well wait a minute that wouldn't clip us or what because because they did that a lot. Now, this is just one example. But it just seems weird that you have a detail that he's naming this person, that if you were just making this up, that that's something that wouldn't be done.

And it happens over and over and over. But to get back to the point on what it says, it says, are you only a visitor to Jerusalem? And do you not know the things that have happened there in these days? And Jesus said, what things? Now, Jesus knew about Jesus of Nazareth. They replied, he was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. The chief priest and our rules hand him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him.

And notice this phrase, but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. So they're disappointed in downcast, and they had a wrong view of what his purpose was. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place. in addition, some of our women amazed us. They went to the tomb, but this morning they didn't find his body. I mean, this is so surreal because he's talking to him. They came and told us that they had seen a vision of angels who said he was alive. Then some of our companions went to the tomb, found it,

just as the women had said, but him they didn't find. And he said to them, how foolish and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets has spoken, did not the Christ have to suffer these things, and then enter his glory. And beginning, now here's the verse I wanted to get to. And beginning with Moses, the prophets, he explained to them that what was said in all the scriptures concerning himself.

All of a sudden he's saying, this pointed to me. And so they go along on the journey, and then in verse 30, they were at the table. He was acting like he was going to leave. They come to a table. He took bread, he took bread,

gave thanks, broke it, began to give it to them, and then their eyes were open. They recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight. Then they asked each other, we're not our hearts burning when he opened our eyes to the scriptures. So they got up, returned to Jerusalem, and they said, the Lord has risen. So then I want to drop down and read one more verse before we go to overtime. When he gets down to verse 44, he said to them, this is what I told you while I was, still with you. Everything must be fulfilled, which is the same word that Jesus, I mean, Luke used in verse one. Now watch what he says. That is written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the Psalms. I read all that to say, he's fixed to give you an account of who

Jesus is and how everything in the Bible pointed to Jesus, and it was based on eyewitnesses. that's his assertion. And we can discuss further if that is proved accurate. We'll flash that out a little bit more in the overtime. That's a good point, though, because it really directly links back to how he begins. And also, Jay's the only time, the only gospel that mentions the Road to a Mass is Luke's version, which is interesting. So we'll talk about that in overtime if we want to follow us over, blazedtv.com slash unashamed. and we'll see you there.

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