Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 679 | Phil Gets Chewed Out Before Breakfast & Miss Kay Asks for His Help with a 'Big' Problem

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

Phil is full of wild stories about his rough past and his rough morning “helping” Miss Kay! The guys are stunned by his heartfelt apology to his fans and listeners, and Jase has yet another bone to pick with Christmas. The guys remain in the book of Luke to study the birth of Jesus according to scripture against the way popular culture portrays it and all the reasons Jesus should have been a nobody instead of a savior.  In this episode: Luke 1, verse 5 through Luke 2, verse 52 "The Blind" hits theaters on 9/28/23. Get sneak peeks, updates & insider exclusives: https://theblindmovie.com — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So, welcome to Unashame. We're just kind of catching up on the week that was. Dad, you got any Miss Kay News for us? Miss K news? Well, these women, they start getting a few years on them. And I guess men, too. But she... You think? Two days ago, she was saying she just walked by and she said, You need to help me.

I just need to lose a little weight, you know. That's a tough question. I thought to myself, okay, she's aware that she's a little bit too plump. So as if I cared, which I don't. Well, that would have been a good thing to say. Yeah, she said, you know, you know, help me. She asked for help to lose weight. Okay.

So this morning, you know, she was with one of the sisters, you know, and they travel around, they go to town and back and this and that and another. They shop, they go to flowers, the shops, and this and that and other. So I just told her, I said, well, look, every time y'all do that, you always eat out, meaning go to a restaurant. On Sundays, Ms. Kay has an entourage of individuals all in one group, and they go. She always foots the bill, as it turns out, and they have a big feed. I just got to looking at it.

having a lot of feeds and I said, well, why don't you just instead of every time on Sundays to take the entourage and buy everyone a dinner, I said, why don't you just do that maybe once or twice a month? You would eat less. Your banker cat wouldn't suffer as much. You're giving her good sound, practical advice that she asked for. I shot that shotgun over her head that you just got through cleaning. Boy, she flaring. I said, you're the one that said, Help me Lose some weight.

One thing is push the grub away from yourself a little bit. I just thought it might work, you know. I know it was just some in-depth thinking there, but maybe don't eat as much. What's crazy, Phil? I'm not sure she really wanted the advice. I never seen. I mean, she had them two or three sit,

they all started barking at me. She asked about losing weight. I'm giving her the deal back off the grub a little. Yeah. So I got chewed out this morning. I said, all right. It doesn't give me any comfort to know that the older I get. I'm preparing you young bucks for when your wife says, will you help me chase?

Will you help me lose some weight if Missy comes to you? Oh, man. Be careful, tread. You're treading. Do you really mean it? When she asked me that, I'm going to say no. Based on that story. No, everybody.

She needs to understand. I don't care. But, I mean, you know, when you're having trouble getting in the door, you've got to go sideways, whatever. I said, well, maybe you can push your grub back a little bit. Don't eat as much. Did she just say sideways to the door? Now, the doctors told me, with the back trouble, eat more because you're getting a little thin. So I was told to eat more.

Miss Kay, I told her don't eat as much. Tough balance. Yeah. Well, I don't see where you really did anything wrong there. I don't think I did. Yeah, but. But I got chewed out for it. No, I know.

I took it well. I said, well, if she wants to lose weight, do something beside push that plate back. Maybe she just wanted to be comforted. So I think probably when she said, well, you help me lose weight. You should have said what you thought, which was, you're fine. Yeah. I never brought it. I never said.

Actually, when you try to help. You get a little clump out. No, I didn't see anything about all that. Yeah. But she just said, help me lose some weight. And I said, well, don't eat as much. Yeah. I mean, I know what's a crazy thought.

You know. Oh, man. Eat more vegetables. Lay off the, the, do, do, do. We may have a test case for the crazy little thing called me. That's what I said after you did that commercial, I'm like, well, I call my wife crazy all the time. Tour. Well, I've been running with your mother for 60 years.

I think that's the first time she's ever said, help me lose the way. Yeah. I said, well, okay, don't eat as much. I don't want to hurt the woman's feelings. So I said, maybe just don't eat as much. You know, you're talking to me? I said, I'm trying to answer my hands. my help for you.

So that's what I would think about, just sort of. Well, a wise man told me one time, don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer. So I guess it was. Of course, the dumbest move I ever pulled is when I told that girl up at church, one of the sisters. I love her as a sister, Bill Smith's daughter. And I said, good night, girl.

I didn't know you were pregnant. She said, I'm not. I said, okay. That's what we call dad a DED. Don't ever do? Don't never ask that question. Wow. That's pretty funny.

I'll have to get moms side. I may have more to report on future podcast. So I want to hear this now. Oh, yeah. This will be brought up again for sure. Yeah, no doubt about it. So, Zach, I was looking this last week. I don't think you can see this on the thing here.

They might can show a picture. So this was the movie poster. Is this the poster? Yeah, for the blind. Phil, that's the way. You looked when you were. Yeah. That's the guy playing me.

That's the guy playing you. That's you at 25 or 30. And then the actress playing mom. So I thought it was really interesting. Got a little hunting in the background there. Yeah. Yeah. And so, but a lot of people have been commented about it since the poster came out.

Oh, look at this. The true story of the Robertson family. See, I like that. You weren't here the day I made a proposal for an amendment to, not the Bible itself, but the name. I don't think Zach was here. I was when we were first up in Luke. I asked who put the word Bible on the Bible, and it was crickets here.

Nobody had ever thought about it. And so, which that means book of books. And I never got a clear answer. But I said, I would rather them say the true story of Jesus. Yeah. Are you down with that? I like it. Yeah.

The true story. You know how you watch a movie or you read a book? Is it true? I like that. Not based on a true story. The true story. Yeah, not based on the true story of Jesus. Because really I made this, you know, my pitch about what the Bible is about.

Jesus has come. Old Testament. Jesus is here. Jesus is coming back. I mean, Jesus was God's choice to reveal himself. He's, you know, and he spoke by. prophets and prophecy what's Hebrew say but in these last days he's chosen to speak to us through his son he's the image of the invisible God it's the true story of Jesus yeah it's one one thing

that the atheists wrestle with and they never covered the information such as fruit of the spirit all scripture is God breathed and it's useful yeah and there's a list of little things there that uh what's the first one uh and it's useful for training uh teaching training rebuking and correcting and training and righteousness so that the man of god be thoroughly equipped the atherists look at that and they don't touch that they they will not touch that so well if they don't believe phil they probably not going to get past genesis one one yeah but i see your point gordon and i we we've we've together with a book it's coming out and the book is what it's like when love joy peace patience kindness atheists never talk about this they never discuss it love joy peace patience kindness

goodness faithfulness gentleness self-control those topics they just don't talk about them at all the Bible does, and I would just say the difference between the Bible and all other books, most books, they don't cover that kind of material. No, it is the book of books. I wasn't arguing that, but I was saying it is the true story of Jesus. Yep. So I didn't mean to hijack your movie promo, but I like that. I thought you must have listened to the podcast.

You know what? I'm going to give you credit for it, Jace. That's what we. Did you really? No, I didn't listen to it. No, I didn't. But I agree with it. You were the catalyst.

You had half of it right. And the other half was hanging in the breeze. On what? But the book. And the book. Your book? After all the talking. We're still talking about a title.

I feel like we're talking about three different things at one time. We are. It's the same thing. Well, we were talking about the Bible. The true story Jesus. We were talking about the movie, the blind, the true story of the writer. The blind covered my book. And you're talking about your book, which is.

call what? Well, that's the way he was about to tell you. So we were, we've been kicking, for a while, we were calling it Jesus' resume, didn't quite land with our folks. And so we've been working on a new title. And the one that everybody seems to love, which you'll love this, Jay's, is I could be wrong, but I doubt it. That's what they named the book. This is the very shirt. I gave you the credit. I could be wrong. Are you all serious? No, we're serious. Because on the back, of your shirt, Jace, all you have to do. I don't have anything on the back of my shirt. I know, but that's why something needs to be there.

You know what it is? What? I doubt it. So when the book people heard that, they said, good night, that's it. They loved it. I told Jay said, he had half of it, right? I could be wrong. You know, I'm not sure.

I don't know if I like that for a book. That seems to sarcastic. Well, the description line, because there's always a dot, dot, dot. describes what the book is about. So just the whole book is, it's supposed to grab your attention in it. The whole book is, so you have a problem with loving each other,

loving your neighbor, love, joy. I get it. Instead of singing the blues, you're just always down. I said, what about if you were joyful in the face of anything that comes your way?

Peace, you're a peacemaker. It's like a lot of people, the atheist thinks we don't like them. I love them. I like your, I used to be in their camp. I like your tagline. I think it should be like Jesus something.

It is. It's in there. I could be wrong. Jesus is in the title. And then you go dot, dot, dot, dot, but I doubt it. That's kind of funny. Yeah. Read the book and you'll see, you say, check it out.

That's what they like right now. So we're, we haven't settled on it finally. Yesterday morning, look, four people came great distances. Husband wife, husband wife. And somebody. I met to them. What we do going in. we say how many came here to participate in the new birth.

You know, we have a warm pool of water in there. No gaiters like down at my house where you'd walk out where it's alligators from time to time. Cotton mouths are there time to time. But it's a good safe place. No one's ever been mauled by a gator or bitten by a cotton mouth. But the risk is there. Yeah. I said, y'all have come a warm pool of water at a good temperature.

chair. So four of them raised their hands and said, we drove all the way down there to hear that. We want to do that. Yeah. So we walked in the little pool of water back there. We baptize them. It's that way every week,

so it's a cool thing. I love it. Where were you at? What were you talking about? You usually give your marketing scheme about the baby, so I was giving you a segue. But I guess you were daydreaming. I was throwing it to use that for the blind.

That got caught up in the conversation bouncing back and forth between the book, the book, and the movie. So what's that book? The book. So what was the guy who said, and then he phrased it up, said, you know, like I was blind, but now I see? What verse is that? That's amazing grace. Yeah, amazing grace. I was blind.

But now I see. I once was blind. Yeah, once was blind. Now I see. So I'm saying kudos. Whoever drained that up, kudos to that. Well, it was a biblical concept. It was biblical, and it does have everything to do with the story of Jesus, for sure.

Yeah, so the true story of Phil Robertson and Kay Robertson, the Robertson Family Origin story, is definitely rooted in the true story of Jesus. But this week, yeah, this was incredible. We put out the poster, which is just the poster art for the film, just people can kind of get a look at what it looks like. I think by the time this podcast release releases, you'll be able to see a teaser trailer of the film, so you'll get an idea what it's going to feel like.

You can go to theblindmovie.com and put your email in. Then you can get access. We'll send you the early access to the teaser trailer. But man, I'm going to tell you guys, it was incredible. We had, I don't know how many millions of impressions we had from the initial post. a ton of people. Could it have been like a hundred people just doing it over and over? No.

Oh, no. I was checking. No, it did. I watched that pretty closely, but it's, no, it was very well received. So I was excited because, you know, you put a lot of work in this and you're passionate about the story. It's our family story. So it's not just, you know, for us, it's not, you know, I've worked on this from day one, from the idea of it all the way.

to where we're at. And so, I'm tied to it. And it's our family story. You know, there's, there's my mom's all in it and, and just her impact and Phil's life and sigh and,

and of course, Phil and, you know, everybody's in it. So it's been really important to me to tell it right. And I was a little nervous. How is our audience going to receive it? But, man,

I was, I was blown away. I've already apologized, a big time, a big apology to, to Jesus when I was 28 years old. I apologized for the way I'd operated. In one sense, I'm sorry that there's a huge audience

that's fixing to deceive my apology, what led to my apology. I just want to understand. I apologize to all of our listeners for behaving as a heathen for the first 28 years of my life. I'm sorry. I've already apologized to God about it, and he's the only one that counts.

But for all the people that might have run up on me during the period of drunken, just satanic behavior, I'm sorry that it took that long. Yeah. I think people when they see it, I mean, even the way it's filmed, I mean, we did this in a way, it's got a realness to it that I'm very proud of.

I mean, we, Jace, you mentioned on there on the movie art, We can probably put that up on the YouTube. If one person is brought to Jesus because of that movie, if one, it comes to Jesus because of it, I will be a happy man. Well, I think that's going to happen. Yeah, I do too.

I think, Phil, you're going to see, I'm just looking at the podcast. I mean, I'm still overwhelmed at how many people have sent messages, and I've read them on Facebook pages and Instagram pages and emails we've gotten, how many people have, have met Jesus for the very first time listening to this podcast, which is so funny

because, you know, we just get here and talk, and it's somewhat ADD, you know, there's a lot of ADHD going on here. I can't quite, it's hard to follow it, but like, I just think that people come in and they hear us talking about, I mean, the, the Lord of God's powerful, you know, and, and I think your testimony is extremely powerful because everybody knows about you and K. and the life that you live now. They know about your legacy. They know about the godly children that you've raised up, the grandchildren.

I mean, they see that. And that's kind of like I think you guys have been an example for millions of people across the globe. So I think that's why this. The first week of my conversion and the first time I ran up on the people of God until I, you know, a little boy there, but it didn't take. but at 28 when I came to Jesus, one of the sisters, when I went down front, I'd pull some stunt after I was converted, getting drunk, I think. But I looked around and this sister comes up, she hugs me, and she says, Phil, I love you.

I never had seen a woman before in my life. So I got outside and asked Ms. Kay, I said, you know, did you see that woman hugged me? And she told me she loved me. I never had seen her before. And Ms. Kay said, she's one of your sisters. She really does. I said, but I just got through telling that bunch that I was a low-down heathen. She said, everybody has been a low-down heathen at some point.

So she's just saying welcome, and I'm glad you made the decision. At the time, I didn't even know, as it turned out, what love was as far as interaction with my neighbors. I didn't think about I'm now going to love them. It was just not in the makeup. So I had to learn how to love. Yeah. I think that's the part that people will see the beginning of that.

They'll see the beginning of you seeing that for the first time. And I think that's the power of, like, especially where you came out of. I didn't know what love was. I didn't know what love for my fellow man was. I didn't get it. until I was converted to Jesus Christ. I didn't know that. I didn't care.

But all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm interacting with people, and they're telling me they love me. And I said, well, I don't even know who they are, which I learned a valuable lesson there. We don't hate people who don't believe in God. We love them, and we try to get them upon them there. And it's so life-changing, you know, we've experienced it. And we're saying, won't you try this?

You know, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, the Spirit of God to help you learn how to love. But that was a foreign concept to me at the time. If you look at it, one of the problems among mankind worldwide is they don't love each other. If they all did love each other, just think about what a moment. marker that would be in a life-changing experience and governments would change if people just loved

each other no no strings attached color all this now do you love each other that's that's the question so only with jesus and the holy spirit of god and faith you'll see it there but everywhere else it ain't there boys you know zat james made a point on the past podcast about being drawn to movies that are true stories. And it's interesting because we talked about the true story, the Robertson family. But there's something about that, the power of witness, whatever it is, that you're seeing something that's worthy of someone, you know, making a movie about it. And I think it's the same thing here.

And I think I've realized even more the last couple of Sundays I preached out of Acts about when Peter essentially, was opened up the keys to the kingdom of heaven, you know, that he had talked about, Jesus had talked about in Mark 16, I mean, in Matthew 16. And, you know, it hit me when I thought about it. It said, you know, Jesus only appeared to a few people. You know, he could appear to everybody, but he didn't. I mean, we know from what Paul said in 1st, Corinthians 15, it was maybe 500 people total,

but the one he appeared to the most two were his inner circle. And the reason he did it was so that they would tell the story about him. That's how he designed it. And think of the Apostle Paul having to say to an audience, listen, I'm doing the work of God now. I'm preaching the good news. But I just want you to know that before I took this job, you know, God gave me a little, hey, check this out. And we had a little meeting. He was blind?

Yeah, he was blind. He was blind. You know, the Apostle Paul said, and I was having Christian people stone to death. Right. And ordering them to be killed on the spot. Well, it made me feel a little bit better about what a rascal I was. The Apostle Paul was going around killing people who had faith in Jesus. He had them killed.

Yeah. Yeah, but, Phel, you can't. I mean, I remember you say at one time, you said you're either a rank heathen like you were. This is your word. or you're just a heathen. Yeah. I thought it was kind of funny. But you said that because you're, I mean, that's part of understanding who you are as a human.

There's no one good. So, Dad, the guy you asked about earlier in the Bible is from the guy from John 9, where he was blind and Jesus healed him. And here's what he said. Because they were saying, well, this guy couldn't heal. He's a sinner. He couldn't hear you. Here's what the guy said. Whether he is a sinner or not, I don't know.

One thing I do know, I was blind, but now I see. As it. Which that was the verse you were asking about earlier. So what I'm saying is he was a witness of the fact of the power of Jesus. Now, they were trying to recreate the narrative and all that stuff. But the truth of the story was is he was blind and now he could see. And I think that really kind of ties in with really point of the whole book. I was.

That's where I was. That's where I was. That's it. I mean, in spiritual blind. spiritual blindness is the same way. In fact, it's worse because it gets your, it can take yourself.

I mean, you can't see it. And I think that's, that's the story, right? I mean, Phil, you watch the film,

you'll see that when you're in that moment, I mean, it's, you just couldn't see. You could not see the truth in front of you. I haven't seen the movie because it hasn't been released. I haven't, but,

you know, just the thought of it, you know, they're going to probe into your sins. I mean, I mean, I mean, He's a little worried about it.

I'm embarrassing. He's not letting him watch the movie. We're going to do a screening for the family, hopefully in June. So before it comes out, so I want everybody to be together. I want it's going to be an incredible experience. You know, even the clips that you've seen, those were pretty powerful moments as a family when we got together. You know, and I'm looking at all of all of us in the whole room's crying. And I'm like, I think that God's doing something here.

And it was tears of joy because it was tears of, there was a testimony of the goodness of God that he relentlessly pursued, you know, You Phil and K too. I mean, it's her story too. And from that, I mean, even in the mid, I think the takeaway is this, even in the midst of brokenness, even in the midst of pain, even in the midst of, hey, we didn't do everything right. I mean, first, you know, several years of Jason's life.

and now you're alive. There's some darkness there. But the guy can take that and turn it into something beautiful. I think that's the hope. And to Jason's point, in the grand scheme of things, when we're all, your story is pretty bad when you compare it to some people's, but when you compare your story to Jesus, when you compare your story to a holy triune God, we all stand equally falling short at his glory. I mean, nobody's, you know, we're all, we're all infinitely.

It makes me feel a little better. I'd say this, Zach, 50 years later, Jason and I were the product of dad's transformation and everything from before, and 50 years later we're sitting around a table talking about the Bible. So I'd say it worked out pretty well. I mean, you know, we could have gone the bitter route

and, you know, just... That's a great point. You know, here we are 50 years later. Well, I was going to read... That's the part you do now. I think the, you know, a lot of the problems with, when you read the Bible and study it, is the practical application.

Because, I mean, you just think about what we've been studying in Luke. And, you know, here was Zachariah. He prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed. And then when God answered his prayer, he didn't believe because he was looking at, you know, his anatomy and he was old. And probably some bitterness. It's like, well, you know, I wanted you to answer the purpose. when I was young.

You know, we wanted to be parents. And so here, God has chosen them to be the parents of John the Baptist. By the way, what do you think of how old Zach arrived? Well, you figure, I'm 70, 77, just turned 77. I think he was probably older than you. Might have been older. And that's my opinion. So he writes a song because, you know, after the Lord shut him up,

for nine months plus. Then, and he finally gets it, you know, that this is not about him. It was kind of an embarrassing. It made me think that when he said embarrassing, but just think about what he sung, and this is where we left off, but I think it applies the practical application of this as to what we're talking about. When he said in verse 76, and you, my child, will be called a prophet of the most high,

for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him. to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins. And before I read this next part, you get it now that Zacharias has been doing some studying. Because he hadn't been talking. He's been having some quiet time. And he hadn't been at the temple because he left there, yeah. So, you know, for a year here, he's figured it all out. I know, but he's figured out God's plan and God has chosen him,

despite his unbelief. Yep. So, because what's, because the next statement is what really I wanted to bring out. What verse did you read? 78 of Luke 1. And remember, this is a prophecy, too. I mean, so this is the Holy Spirit. And it's a song slash prophecy because of the tender mercy of our God by which,

now talking about Jesus coming and bringing, and John to bat is preparing the way for Jesus. Because of the tender mercy of God by which the rising sun will come to us. from heaven. And first you're thinking, what's he talking about, the sun, the big ball of fire?

No, he's talking about the sun, S-O-N, watch, to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death to guide our feet into the path of peace. Well, that's exactly what happened to you, Phil. You were blind,

and all of a sudden there was a light shown through Jesus. You're happy may feel a little better. Yeah. In the shadow of death, because you wouldn't even be here had you not come to Jesus. Because, I mean, I don't have to see the movie. I saw the Cliff Notes in real life. You can't keep putting that to the test and expect to survive, that kind of lifestyle.

That's right. And so I just think that that's what God does, and he's going to mention it in this next. By the way, I was shot at. Section 2. During my drunken days, I was shot at with a pistol, and it missed me by inches. Yeah. But he missed me. Well, that was my point.

You were probably going to be shot at again. Yeah, you were having to down there. What's funny is, is we did all the interviews. When he got up with a pistol from the hip, I'm sitting on one side of the car, and he's on the other, the truck. Boom. The bullet goes right in front of me. then I have to work him over for trying to pull a stunt like that. But I mean, I'm just saying, man, I, I, I'm just telling you, I'm lucky to be here.

Yeah, and so is he. I don't know whether that scenes in the movie or not, but that had happened. Oh, that's what I was going to say. The crazy part is, I do all the interviews. And I mean, it was hours of interviews with the family, which is where we lifted pretty much every scene. I mean, this is a, these are all true stories. and then after the fact, Phil, like, after I've already got everything done, he tells me that the story that he just told. I'm like, how does that story not make it into your first round of stories?

I mean, how bad did you have made that that's like, oh, by the way, this also happened as well. Yeah. But that did not. I wish, if you had told me about that one while we did the interviews, I would have certainly had it in there. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, the life of living, I mean. That's just one more you can add to the list of living without God, you know, just jerking this. I was talking with Gordon about this.

And we were actually talking about Phyllis, but we were talking about the providential hand of God because, you know, Phyllis comes to us and she's already in her 40s. So we don't know anything about her life. And so she starts describing her childhood and her life to me. And instantly, I think, well, God had his hand on you, like you were protected through some rough circumstances to become the daughter of the Almighty and eventually to find us.

But, you know, I got to thinking about it. We could say the same thing about you because you were living like a heathen. But it wasn't just the story you just told. I remember all the DUIs and the truck wrecks and the total vehicles and any of those could have killed a lot about three vehicles. Could have killed or damaged you beyond being able to do what you're doing now. So obviously, God and his wisdom and outside of time knew what you were going to become. I can't help but think maybe there was a little bit of protection you didn't know about that was going on. No doubt about it.

Yeah. You're still here. So you guys haven't seen the trailer either, so I will show you guys the trailer today. Oh, we're in the end crowd. Yeah. You'll be in the end crowd. So the snap. Zach, you need to show us.

We're influencers. We can talk it up. I will show you all the trailer. Show it to me and then send me a bumper sticker that says, I saw the trailer. So if you want to get the bumper sticker, we might need to do that. I might come up with bumper stickers. I saw the trailer. I saw the trailer, the blind.

I might actually do that. That's a good idea. He sworeves into so many great marketing ideas. Well, most of my. I need to hire Jay's for a marketing team. Yeah. Well, just look at me. Look at me.

All right. insert a picture of my wife. You don't think I don't know how to market? I'm pulling off the greatest marketing, too. He's marketing himself. He's marketing himself. Yeah. What were your in-laws saying?

Everybody's crying. You ain't going to marry him. Screaming, no. I mean, what's that? Nope. I've been married 32 precious years. You are a marketer. He's a marketer.

He's a marketer. He started with himself. The origins of that. Yeah. Well, I get my material from a little place called the Bible. Okay. That's good. And you could be wrong.

Yeah, because I'm human. But I own it. See, I own this. I doubt it. No, I didn't put that. You're the one coming out without doubt it. I just left it at this. I could be wrong.

So, and I could be, but I'm trying to get to Luke, too. If y'all will come join me. Well, let me say this before we get to Luke to. You get there's that. This is a Bible study. Go ahead. Yeah, it is a Bible study. But people do want to see the trailer.

So I just want to remind you, there's a place you can go to watch it. You go to the blindmovie.com. By the time this podcast drops this week, I think it should be out. If you'll promise them a bumper sticker, they'll do it. No bumper sticker. They're not going. All you need is one bumper sticker. Just say, look, if you go watch it.

it and then it'll register that they watched it. Do the email and you send them a bumper sticker and this thing will take off and go crazy. I will talk to the powers it be about getting a bumper sticker. I'm going to write it down right here. You don't have to do it exactly like what I said, but just something to that effect. Because people are crazy like that. I've seen the trailer. I've seen the trailer.

The Blindmovie.com will be like the hashtag at the bottom of it. You know what? We're going to work on that. I will work on the bumpers. Because that gets in front of a lot of eyeballs. But I will say this and just my. appreciation, Unashamed Nation, because we just sent out, I know, to the Facebook group, we were talking about the title for the book.

But, you know, we lean on you guys to give us ideas. Jason is doing the whole show because of you. I mean, he asked you what you thought. You said, do it, and he's doing it. What show is that? That family treasure. The one you've been working 80 hours a week on. I thought you meant we were speaking to do another show.

I was going to say, hang on you really been doing a show or are you just like taking time off? What are you trying to do add another show? I was thinking to say. Ain't nobody got. No, I met with a little. I met when you started, when you made the decision to do that family children. I didn't want to do it, but the crowd, the people listening. So I'm, so to Zach's point, the community.

Yeah, to Zach's point, you guys are going to be a big part of this movie being successful. And so, word of mouth. It is, Unashamed Nation is you guys, the, the, I mean, that's the family that's going to, I mean, they really, I can't overestimate the importance that all of you have played and everything. we're doing. I mean, I mean, you're a part of it. I mean, seriously, I mean, that's everything we're doing is really because of you guys supporting us and getting behind it. So the blind is certainly no exception. In fact, you know, I talk about you guys all the time when we're in these meetings with because, you know, it's, you know, these kind of movies are hard to get out just because of the nature of what we're saying. You know, it's not like Hollywood's clamoring to, you

put our stuff out there. But, but it's kind of hard to deny it when you see the response of a community that says no we we want to be a part of this we want to see this and so yeah every that that helps so y'all go sign up blind movie.com maybe you'll get a bumper sticker we'll see all right it's all you got to do it's a little thing well that's what i was trying to make a practical application here on this we've been waiting for it jays we're just thank you i'm on the edge of my seat waiting for this application because look i read this i've heard this story hundreds of times and usually every christian you see the birth of Jesus play out. Yeah, plays, cantatas, musical.

For some reason, when I read these passages in the past week, I thought that every one of those groups of people who had the plays need to repent. They missed it. Yeah, I said it and, you know. All Christmas presentations repent. Yep, they got it wrong. Because it's all so flowery and patrick. tree and you have smiling, you know, farm animals and, and, uh, well, I read this, and this

sounds horrible. They, here's a pregnant woman having to walk miles. They, they can't get a room. I mean, I, I saw my wife have three children. I mean, that was rough. I can't imagine doing that out in the middle of a field in a barn. I don't even know if it's a barn. It was just some covering.

Probably a cave. With, you know, poop everywhere. I mean, have you been to a farm lately? Yeah. And so I'm like, you know, this just doesn't seem to fit the narrative that were led to believe. It was definitely a lot. You're right about one thing for sure. It was a much more raw, rough situation.

No doubt. than we portray it to be. No doubt. With everything clean and the little baby there, it was very wrong. By the way, Jay said, it's one of the wildest births I've ever read about it. So it's 80 miles from Nazareth down to Bethlehem. Yeah, 80 miles. I say down.

It's actually up because the sea level is higher. So you're like, oh, it's 80 miles. Oh, you take a bus. You'll be there. No, there's no bus. We're talking about a donkey. Yeah, and walking. And walking.

And you're pregnant about to pop. and just think about this. I mean, do the math. All these people around here, all your friends and all, they're like, oh, so you just got married. Now, how long have you been married? Oh, technically we're still not married. We were betrothed.

But don't say you don't do the math. So, you know what I mean? They're like, oh, you're getting married. Oh, but you're, well, wait a minute. Now, when did you get married? And so you have this big cloud hanging over them. Oh, yeah. There's nobody

basically supportive. They don't have a room in the end. And when you hear the part about the angel, you know, I mean, I guess we could read this. Let me read this. So, and look, I'm going to tell you something else. This doesn't start off with in a galaxy far, far away. I think that's, is that Star Wars?

It is Star Wars. This starts off saying, chapter 2, In those days, Caesar Augustus issued a decree. Now, look, I looked up Caesar Augustus, and you know what I found? He was actually a Roman emperor, the first Roman emperor. Yep. About roughly a little over 2,000 years ago. Huh, what a coincidence.

They made this up, and they got that right. Yep. And guess what? In Luke 3-1, there's a guy called Tiberius, and you know what I found? he was the second Roman emperor right after the first one. You can't trust that Bible. Don't trust the Bible.

It seems like, I mean, I just thought I'd say that. So they took a census and look for the entire Roman world. Oh, so Rome was in charge back then and Luke got that right? I think he got it right. Yeah. Okay. This was the first census and there's this. I don't even know how to pronounce this guys.

Corinius. Arrinius was governor of Syria. So these are real people. And you said this before when we started the book, Jays, the more names that Luke puts in, the more authentic the story is. You all believe that? Do you believe in my old writing is about the Bible?

Yeah. Yeah. Because the more data points you put in here, then the more chances you have to prove this to be wrong, one of the, one of the, one of the evidences of the, of the New Testament, right, is, and the Old Testament for that matter, is that it is tied into historical events such that if you could disprove the historical or the historicity of it, then you could disprove the whole thing. And that's one of the reasons why we believe this is, you know, true. That's right.

I like it when you put that I-C-T-Y-O-O-N-Hist-Hist-R-History. History-Histericity. Yeah, I thought you know, that was something. There's Jesus' word of the day. That's something women get later on in life. Sorry. No, that's a hysterical. I was just trying to be funny. Probably a bad joke.

So Joseph, look, verse four, also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea. Look, to Bethlehem. And I'll wait for this. I have been there. So there was a town called Bethlehem, and there still is. And I was there, and I was like, of all the places for God to say, yeah, I'm going to make my entrance here. It just doesn't seem like he was trying to make a grand entrance. It's weird.

And it wasn't very big either, right? It's very small. Well, I put the same, well, I'll let you finish reading. Yeah, let's read. I just had to say, I was just trying to make a point here. These are real places with real people, real points of history. Because I'm trying to get you to see that, well, if all that's true, well, what if there actually was a birth of the Lord God Almighty to the same planet your own?

That would be something you might ought to take. By the way, this was all to fulfill prophecy, but this also was a big pain for this couple to make this 80-mile journey because the Romans made them. Yes. So it wasn't like this was convenient. Yeah, so because he belonged to, because he came to Bethlehem, the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. So we're setting up the history and genealogy here.

He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. And that's why I'm bringing up this sentence. Scandal. No religious people are going to support this. No. This is, even the people in the world socially back then, they're like, oh, yeah, this is going to be the Messiah. And he's coming from this situation.

Yeah, I just bet. Yeah. Scandalous. What would you be thinking? Scandalous. There's no doubt what you'd be thinking. You're like, oh, look, a king is fixed to be born. You're like, now who is this?

It's a teenage girl. She's never been married. Yeah. Where are they from? Bethlehem. Hasry. They're from Nazareth. Oh, that's worse.

Nothing good. It's going to be born. So where's the ceremony for the baby? Oh, no, they're, no, they just out there in a barn out in the field. I mean, this is getting almost like Jerry Springer before Jerry Springer even existed. He just did he? He just passed away, dude. Yeah.

Did he? Yeah. All right, well, I'm going to find somebody else to make a river. See. So, rest in peace. So he was pledged to be married to him and was a birth to child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn a son,

which is weird that she said firstborn. A lot of people debate about this, but, you know, because in the other reference, it doesn't say anything because the firstborn implies more. But, you know, some people say this was a one and done. Well, and it's also probably significant because of what's going to happen later, the presentation of the temple is because he's the firstborn. Exactly. She wrapped him in clothes and placed him in a manger, which, look.

Feeding trough. This is not, now I'm going back to what I said. Oh, it's a, you know, it's, oh, the kids and this, you know, the smiling chickens and the manger, you know, it was a feed trough that they probably cleaned out, you know. But you're right. the modern versions of a manger is a nice, comfy bassinet. I just, I told, well, right,

right. Now, before you all get offended, I told Missy last night, I said, I'm offended. And she's like, what?

I was like, these Christmas programs. And she said, why are you offended? I said, because I've been reading a Bible. Just think of the mic. She said,

don't say anything about that because you're going to offend a lot of people. And I said, well, I hope I do. You just think about, Jace, the mic. microbes that were crawling around.

Yeah. And this hole. Well, luckily, yeah, luckily he created the microbes. Yeah. So. But it is, but it is. If you think about it, what's going on here, I mean, you've got, I mean, you do hear. I, I had the same notes when I read it.

I put down in here that, you know, we hear, when we hear the word manger, immediately, the first thing that pops in my mind is like hot chocolate, pepperments. Christmas tree lights. Yeah. It's warm and fuzzy. It's good feelings because it's what with the song we sing, you know, during Christmas. And so we've, we've kind of, we've whitewashed it. We've made it seem a lot more romantic than it was.

I mean, to our point, it is a feeding trough. It's a feeder. So, I know we're running out of time. So I'm going to give you a list of things that I noted before we, you know, continue. Because we're going to hang out here for three. over time and then the next podcast. But when you think about it, Jesus, let's face it, he was born on the wrong side of the tracks.

Would you agree or disagree? Whatever tracks were over there, it was the wrong side for pedigree, power, and stat. He had none of that. Nope. He was not good looking. You remember Isaiah 52 and 53? Nothing special to look at.

Nothing. He didn't look like what we have him portrayed as looking at. And no one would do it because you see the movies and shows. The way Isaiah put it was nothing in his appearance would draw people to him. He had this illegitimate cloud hanging over him. This was not reputable. Scandal. Yep, scandalous.

He was born in a manger. His parents, you know, when they give the doves and pigeons here later. Yeah, at the temple. At the temple. That was the, that represented the lowest economic class. That was basically like free lunch as far as. That was how we grew up in school. Free lives.

So he wasn't coming. Look, he was a carpenter. Just think. I mean, how many carpenters have you seen royal status or priestly, any kind of pedigrant? It's just not there. His hometown, I mean, most people, at least, you know, if you're somebody, your hometown will put a sign up and say, you know, he was here or born here. or I think Willie's got Bernice, you know. He does.

Population 117. Homa really was. He's got Bernice locked down right back. Jesus didn't even have his hometown lockdown. We see that. They're like, who you think you are. His father died, or is just not mentioned, everybody assumes he dies at a young age.

Sure he did. What happened to him? He didn't go to the great schools. It just doesn't seem like, what is God trying to do? And so that riddle, solving that riddle on why God chose to arrive like that, to me,

is a theme of the gospel message, which I will share you. All right, let's end it right there. We'll have it over to overtime, explore that a little bit more, Jase. BlazTV.com slash Unashamed is where you go to get that bonus overtime segment. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.

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