Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 698 | Phil & Miss Kay’s Midnight Drag Racing Encounter & Jase Gets Grossed Out Big-Time

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

Phil and Miss Kay recently had an unfortunate experience with some drag racing buffoons late at night. But they both claim to be the hero of the story! Who do you believe? Jase is totally repulsed by what a nurse pulled out of Phil’s ear, but at least he can hear better! Phil, Miss Kay, Al, and Lisa witness an outlandish conveyance in Amish country at an event in Ohio. The guys discuss those Al calls “The Untouchables” in Luke 5: lepers, paraplegics, and tax collectors. Al and Jase explore what a big deal it was in Jewish society for Jesus to actually touch and spend time with such people.   In this episode: Luke 5, verses 12-31 https://philmerch.com — Shop now for your “Unashamed” mugs, shirts, hats & hoodies! "The Blind" hits theaters on 9/28/23. Get sneak peeks, updates & insider exclusives: https://theblindmovie.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashame, the award-winning Unashamed podcast. I have to mention the day is ever so often. Well, if you blinked, we just were discussing that if you blink, you'd have missed us actually receiving the award. Yeah, it was a little bit different. We were just, Josh was just showing us the actual show that aired on TV. TBN, which most of you, if you watched it, we were kind of condensed into a category with the other, like, film and books and kind of other, because, you know, the music is the star of the show. I mean, it was amazing.

They're a radio station. That was like a concert, Jay. That was quite the evening. I thought it was really fun. So it just kind of reminded us again about it because it just happened this last week since last we recorded, even though we've already talked about it. But I got a lot of notes from a lot of folks out there on a shame nation. And again, we thank you because, you know, really it's your award. It's not our award because you're the ones that vote and you're the ones that listen.

Well, we were doing the wedding rehearsal. I have a wedding tonight to, what do you call that when you're officiate? You're the efficient. I'm the efficient. That how's that word? Did I use that efficient? Is that correct? efficiently.

Yeah, you did it, you did good there. I like what you did there. How many weddings have you officiated? Does you know? Well, I'm retired, you know. Well, I know that. But even before your retirement,

you weren't exactly doing a lot of wedding. Maybe more than you think. Probably 10. Right. So. Last time I counted, because I keep records, but then I did them before records,

so I'm not accurate. But I was about 160. Oh, wow. It's way more. Well, I just, Actually, when they asked me, you know, I said, no, that place is two doors down to the left. And they were like, what? I was like, I said, that's not really my zone.

You could do better. I tried every way known to man. That was my favorite line you told him, you could do better. That was the first thing I said. That's funny is what that is. I mean, because to me, they look like kids. They look younger than they are, you know, compared to when I got married. I mean, they're old.

They're in their 20s. But I was like, you could do better. But what I was going to say about the podcast, there's a wedding planner that we all know well. And she's ageless, but she's the wedding planner. So she was telling everybody what to do because we did the rehearsal. Yep. And that was last night. It's out at my place.

But she came up to me and she said, brother. when you held that Bible up. And I had no idea what she was talking about, you know. But she was looking so serious. She said tears started streaming down my face. And I said, yes, Lord. And so she's talking about on the. She was watching the award.

Yeah, I guess. So it was very. You didn't know what she was talking about. No, but it was dumb. It was so passion. I was getting kind of choked up. But I didn't want to say, no, what are you referring to? but I mean because she she was just really

passionate about that because she's a believer and she loves to live. I got a ton of messages of people that said that they got choked up in that part which was on the only part they showed. So, you know, I thought that was your, you had some good stuff in your acceptance, but that was your best line.

Well, that's what I believe. I mean, when I really, I mean, don't take any offense. I'm not trying to hurt y'all's feelings. But when I look around, there's got to be another answer to this. That's right. To this success.

We thought, we've had the same thought. Yeah, we've had the same thought looking around ourselves, Jay. So, yeah, no offense. Not a whole lot of winners here. So I concluded that it must be the good book. So that's my speech and I'm sticking to it. And so, so, Dad, you're hearing us today for the first time. So how do we sound?

No, I think you need a better lead-up to that, Al. We actually have our first, somebody dropped the M-word, the miracle that feels that he feels like he's had a miracle. And I felt the same way he feels this morning. Somebody said that. I said that. It's a miracle. I said it felt like a miracle because I was deaf. I was not hearing anything.

And all of a sudden it was so loud, it had shied away from it. Well, we went to Ohio. and to the Amist community up there. Can't think of that little town. Mount Hope. I had been there. I had been there. Did they miss me?

Oh, a lot of people. Yeah, they remember you. A lot of people brought you up. We signed some stuff you had signed. You helped the follow up, but we followed up with their. And after. I kept trying to throw Jason on the bus. It was so funny because they would say something by Jason.

I'd make like a... Out there, we don't throw people under the bus. We throw them under the tractors. After meeting with them. And asking a few questions. you know and they were just talking free to talk I was absolutely convinced that they are members of the kingdom of God Jesus being the king that believe he died for them was buried they're good people oh yeah oh and their women could cook I also remember that yeah and an amos wedding feast is what they're what their men could cook too so yeah that's right

so we were there all day and I had a large crowd that night you know and got on by bye on the plane flew back down to here we got in here about 11 around 11 o'clock that 1030 up yeah so we're leaving west Monroe Louisiana I'm out on Jonesville Road going toward the woods absolutely yeah so it's two lanes or traffic two road two road two two two lane you know so I'm on the right leaving and the people coming in was on my left coming in basic traffic yeah it's all one I'm cruising along at about 45 or 50. Which is the speed limit. Yep, and I looked to my left, and in that line of traffic, I saw this vehicle coming out

of it. It just kind of was sliding over into my lane. Uh-oh. So I come off the gas a little bit, and I'm watching them, and they're not going to the left or right. They're still, it's like this. Both lanes are filled. Both lanes are filled, and they're coming head on.

So I got ready. I said, I'm going to do all this and one lick here. I was saying it to myself because I said, which way do I go here? Because he's coming. When he got within about eight to ten feet from, I mean, head on like you hadn't seen lady, it was going to be a head on. Y'all's mother was on the right, and I'm watching that. And when they got down to about eight to ten feet, he was coming pretty, who is,

it was coming pretty fast, faster than I was driving, but I waited until I could turn quick. I turned to my right, like this, like this, and gunned it. I stomp my gas, boom. So I did like this. I just went like this. They're still coming, and I just rumped down on the accelerator. And I thought at one point I was going to make it. But I heard pretty good little racket on the back.

and, you know, swam me around a little bit. I said, I've been hit. I said, I'm going to chase that rascal down. So I was going to get ready to go up there, but I saw his tail lights. He just went back in the road and kept on going like that never happened. Yeah. So I said, well, I'll run him down. Well, I looked back at my back tire, heard of flopping,

and my back tire were just flopping rubber. So he hit my tire. When I did like this, he just clipped me right on the end. and didn't even tear up the truck at all. He just hit the tire. That's how I almost got him, you know, got away from him. But boom, he goes back. Well, you know, I'm standing there.

Now it's about 12, 12 o'clock roughly. The little old filling station was on the side of the road was closed. The woman wouldn't open the door. She's looking at me. I'm standing there, you know, hey, open the door. We need a cell phone here. I don't know on a cell phone, but I needed one. Miss Caves wouldn't work.

We ended up with getting my old standby, old Jimmy Red, the Redneck. I woke him up. He said, you call me once, I didn't answer it, but he said, the second time, he said, why would he be calling me at 12 o'clock a night? So Red got it understood it. He showed up, put the tire, the bow, the bad tire off. He's going this morning to get another one. The state trooper I called, you know, we called the police,

come down there check us out you know maybe you can see a vehicle up above us just tore up like this one is a little bit you know my tire and all that but so he comes in there and says well you know we can't find anybody just you got some driver license i said yeah yeah i have some driver license so we showed them all the paperwork you know so he took one look at you and thought no he knew who it was he's oh okay you know he's you know what so he knew who it was so you're you're good to go man So no injuries? No injuries. What's crazy to me is...

Loss of one tire, and I finally got in bed. It was about 1.130 after red, I had to wait on him to come up there, change the tire, put it back. What's crazy is I heard your wife tell this story, and she was more of... The hero. The hero in her version of the story, but... So now I don't know.

She had been driving that vehicle. That would have been our head-on collision. Well, I have been... Dad, when she tells her version of it, I said, hmm, I said, mom, it's, it is a miracle you're alive if this whole situation was based on your instincts and reflex. Yeah. Because in her story, you were zoned out, and she yelled at you to take a hard ride at just the right moment. No, it's her version.

She said, you know, I looked up. I saved us. She said, there were two cars drag racing in the, in the middle of the street. And I said, well, how did you know they were drag. She said, I know when people are dragged. I don't know what brought him over there in my lane, but trust me when I tell you, you wouldn't have wanted your woman to be on the steering wheel.

No, no. I timed it all and just rumped down on my accelerator. Well, I would let you know that. I hook a hard right. And they barely, I mean, you do like this. One more second. You have one more anticipation. One second.

Here was the main thing that I did. I questioned mom's version. because I said, well, what's the truck look like? She said, oh, it's bad. So when I got there, just one of it, I'm looking around. And I was like, I can't see, tell there's any damage to your truck. He came so close that he just had it a little, I got a little of its paint. How did he hit your tire, a rear tire, and never touched the fender or anything else?

It was a car, right? The state trooper said, I don't know how. I don't either. You got that kind of deal. You look at his truck. You cannot tell anything ever happened. I took a right and I gunned it, so I kept it from being head-on right there. Now it's just the side, it's like this.

Well, I just kept fogging it to it. Yeah, but people can't see that. So Phil's doing an analogy. With his hands. With his hands. He took a right. Yeah, they're just listening. Close shave.

Yeah, it was a close shave. Very close. I had a car come. So close, I got paint from his vehicle right down my vehicle. But my truck out there right now doesn't have a den on it. And a car went in between my tires. I'm just literally driving down the road. And I just looked to my left.

And they didn't see me. And the car went under my truck. I mean, and then spun out from the contact. Like Christmas vacation. And I do not have a dent. And their car was totaled. But it's... What was it?

Do you go? I was a little tiny car. That's cause your truck because it's jacked up. Yeah, it looks like it. But I'm just saying, you know, you would think a whole car

coming under your truck and spinning out, I would have at least a dent. Yeah. Yeah. That was a near miss on me. It did a head-on collision. I didn't get nervous anything.

I just had planned it out because it was happening like middle of seconds. Well, it was funny in my... Just come out and coming right at you. Yeah. And we're, we're, we're, we're, We're dead on. He's dead on.

He's not even paying attention. Well, the two, you needed a couple more milliseconds of hook them to the right. Yeah. Wow. The message is an R-A. Well, you saved our life. I said, I helped. Then she slept and said, hey, I saved our life.

Well, yeah, so that's, it's a he said, she said. It's pretty funny. I mean. I said, if we were trying to solve a mystery on N-C-I-S, we would have conflicting testable. She was at the rehearsal last night, and so she was telling me the story. So there I was. I looked way down. It was a drag race going on. I told Phil, we might already get out of the way. Now, take a right, Phil. You hooked her right and said... She never said a word until the car bumped us on the back and went on. And I was in the ditch over there. That's when she said, you saved our life.

I probably said close to it. It would have been head on around to pull that maneuver. I'm glad y'all survived. Amen on that. Let's take a break. So, Dad, you left out one piece from there, or several pieces, but a big piece out of our Amish country trip. We, as we got to the airport, it's actually a little FBO because somebody sent a plane

for us, which is nice, because I had to preach. I guess you had to first have a car wreck, and then you had to teach yesterday morning. And so there was this, when we land and we come in, as we're taxing in to this little, and it's a rural area. So it's not a very fancy little place, but there's an airstrip there. And there's an Amish buggy. You know, you've seen them with the wheels and they're usually a horse in front of them. It's sitting in this bay here next to where we're pulling into. And it has a jet engine on the back of it.

So we snapped a picture. Look at there. An Amish buggy with a jet engine. So we take a picture of it. Most of the engine was in the back seat. Right. So we go do our thing. We come back.

And when we get back to the airport, the guy that flew us, he owns the whole operation there. He owns, you know, he flies the plane. He owns the operation. And his son works there. He's a mechanic. Well, he comes out. He's a big old boy. It looks just like a redneck.

Anybody you would have went to school with here, just that's what he looks like. And he's got a fire suit on. And when we get there, he's a big old boy. to get on the plane to go home, he's out, that buggy is out there on the runway. And he says, I'm going to show you all so. So he gets in that thing. And he takes off with a jet.

Remember a black wagon that mules drag along? Did it have wings? No, it was a normal buggy. And he has seated right in front of a jet engine. With jet fuel in there. It didn't fly. It was just for running. And I looked at it.

80 miles an hour on the airport. He was not flying, but he is moving. And boom, woo. Black cloud of smoke come out, fire coming out the back. I never seen anything like. Like a back fire? Yeah. I mean, a big old plume of smoke comes out of it like you see come out of a jet.

And the big fire is out of the back. And he comes by, you know, like some kind of speed test. So I'm laughing so hard, which we got videos. So I'm hoping Josh can put a little video on here for you guys that watch us on YouTube. And I even got the shirt. That's what my shirt is. Sounds like a little rebellion over the, we're just living a bus. See right there, that his shirt, there it is, Jason. See that jet engine, that red-looking thing in there, the fire coming out. That's the way he looked. The world's fastest buggy. He went out and turned around in the airport, poured the cold to it, and come by us at least

75, 80 miles an hour. Well, I was moving back, you know, because, well, he's wearing a fire suit. So I'm thinking, I don't know. We're just standing out here and watch it. But I laughed at it because I thought, this is so amazing because here we are in Amish country. And this is where Redneck and Amish come together. Oh, yeah. This is it. Because you're thinking I'm going to get an Amish buggy and put a jet engine on the back of it and hold my beer and watch this.

Oh, it was great. It was great entertainment. That's what's sending us on our way. Then we hopped on the plane and came home. So I had to mention that. I tell you what they can say what they want to. But that was really, to get that pulled off, that was pretty good. He's a pretty good mechanic to pull that off.

My hat's off. Very good. But, Jay, I loved it. I wanted to mention before we left that topic that a lot of people were still talking about, you've been there two years ago. And the guy that puts it on, it's a great recovery ministry called 612. It's based on Ephesians 612. And they're doing tremendous work in this community.

And so it was a fundraiser for them. And he told me that when you were there, you know, Amish people, a lot of them don't watch TV, or at least they're not supposed to. But he said, a lot of them came to him and said, will you show us that, you know, that the podcast when the duck guy was here talking about being here? And he said a lot of people came to Christ based on us talking about it on the podcast when you were there. So he said he wanted to let you know that. So it's good. The fruit continues to go on. And we shared the gospel.

I mean, Dad and I both did and Mom and Lisa. So it was a great event. We enjoyed it. They were very good people. They were, and they treated us tremendously. The best people I've ever run up on, were Amish and at Ohio up there. Yeah, very, very good folks. So we loved it.

And we got to see some redneck engineers. By the way, some of them were asked why they are not using mechanical stuff, you know, and some of their equipment, you know, and they're just using mules and horses. And they said that the Amish who were doing that, Their answer was... Your favorite verse? We don't know. We don't know where this came from.

This was handed down. Their ancestors handed down mules and wagons, and they said, we don't know why we... Other than that, he said a lot of them quote your favorite verse from First Sondas that says, we don't want to be dependent on anybody. Yeah. But we want to live a quiet, godly life.

So a lot of it comes from that. Yep. But they're tremendous woodworkers. and, you know, farmers and the stuff up there is amazing. Of course, Mom and Lisa went shopping, so that added to the... I don't care what everybody says when they begin to say negative things about the Amish world, but I saw nothing but positive. Oh, they're fantastic.

I thought, I said, this is the kingdom of God. But, you know, I thought about that, because that ministry that we were there supporting, they mainly do recovery. It's mainly from drugs and alcohol, but it's a lot of other stuff. But, you know, even in the Amish community, they deal with a lot of folks that deal with the same thing. It reminded me, you can't, the evil one is working wherever he's working. You can't isolate to the point you never had to deal with him, even if you're isolated

from culture. So that's the, you know, we talked a lot about this in Luke, that evil, that's the way it works. It's insidious. I mean, it can go in any community. By the way, after I survived the head-on collision, we didn't get in bed about two o'clock by the time we got down there. But so they'd give it three, four hours sleep.

And I was back up there, but we converted. the man and his wife and ask him what he did for a living. He was up there toward the Amish country. But anyway, he said he was an accountant. He was putting his dry clothes on in the little stall there after I baptized him. Hey, by the way, what do you do for a living? He said, accountant. So you never know who you're talking to or where they come from.

They just show up. He and his wife. Which is pretty cool. So, Jayce, do you know what you're going to say in the wedding tonight? Yeah. Are you ready for it? I crash course. I mean, it's family.

You know, when I think of my niece, I mean, it's hard for me to, it's just hard for me to wrap my head around. These are two adults now. Well, and this one in particular, she's very youthful, even though she's a college student. She's very youthful in a parent, so it does seem weird that she's getting married.

I mean, I'm keeping it pretty short, Because they said... That's best. You know what I'm known for? Short weddings. Yeah. So I'm going to go short. I'll give her a report.

I got a couple pages. But I basically just made it Jesus-centered because they asked me to do that. They said that's why they were asking. Right. And there's a lot of similarities of being married to Jesus and being married. How old is Lidly down?

21. 21? 22, something. They're both about 21. in the early 20s. He just graduated from college, so he's 22. What's he going to do for a living? They said he's going to be...

He's an accountant. Accountant. So that's where I thought you were going with that. But he is genuinely... I mean, if I... He's a fine little man. I didn't know there were, you know, young men out there of this. He's a quality individual.

High caliber. Wholeheartedly approve of this. Me too. So I'm excited about it. I mean, he already seemed... like family. We're friends. Yeah.

Which is very strange because most of these teenage bucks, you know, you're looking. Well, your brother's child is your niece? Yeah. Your niece. Yeah, you're really being Captain obvious today. We're going through all these zones that you get to, you know. Yeah. And now.

He's hearing for the first time. I'll get into your 80s, really. I'm almost in my 80s a couple of years. So I'm looking at it. And I'm like, okay, what would you call them? They were cousins. Well, before we get to the Bible, what I originally was going to talk about was the miracle. Phil's got an ear man.

That's what he referred to him earlier. Unbelievable. And they had a little wax removal. And so now Phil's like, I can hear it. That was the said miracle I was referencing. When I came in this morning, Jay's, I usually come in and bring dad a little chick-fil-a, and we talk a little bit before we come over and do the podcast. So normally the TV, you know, it goes up.

up to a hundred. Most people wouldn't know that, but I know because when I go into dads, it's around 90. I don't think you have it quite all the way. So I walk in this morning, I would get, I don't know what it was, but I would guess it's about 20. Dad's sitting there watching TV and I was like, I guess he's just reading lips today. And you told me about nurseman had been there and what he had dug out of your ears. And I was like, so dad said, look, I can hear that perfectly well. I was like, right now it's like you're hollering. at me. Right, because for the first time you're hearing all this. That doesn't wax, I guess, for a year or so he cleaned them out one time before, but that's been a couple years.

But boy, did it ever block off my hearing? Woo! So we sound loud now, right? Yeah. Oh, y'all sound very loud. Like we're yelling at you. I was the same way. This was it was both ears or just one? Both ears. I mean, he would pull out. What percentage would you say you've increased in your hearing when it came out? Oh, I would say 75%.

I mean, I was just listening. I've got some expensive, you know, duck ears, you know, he put in your head. That didn't do any good when you're having to go through the wax. That's why it wouldn't worry. I couldn't figure it out, Dad. You would put your hearing aids in, and I was like, he can't hear any better. They must be bad, but now I know what the deal was. Too much wax.

Too much wax. I put a little oil in my ears for the last four days, And a nurseman told me that. He said, he's one of the brothers, but he hunts with us. Well, I call him nurseman. I don't even know his real name. Anyway, but I know he's good. He's shot him ear man earlier, which was funny.

Yeah. But boy, did he ever awaken the new world to me. So dad's line was, this is a good redneck line. I said, dad was a lot of wax. He said, Al, if it had been peanut butter, it would have been enough for a sandwich. Just globs of earwax. As you're enjoying your breakfast this morning or dinner. I was trying to eat a chicken biscuit, but I just lost interest.

Let's take another break. There's nothing funky or nasty about it. No, it's just, it comes out. It's from drainage. Well, it is. It's kind of nasty. He pulled out that first plug, and I thought he was coming out with eardrum. I mean, I'm like, ow.

It's a tool. It's not pleasant. It's not pleasant. Well, it didn't seem that way to you because it's yours, but to everybody else, no, that's nasty. That makes me want to go get my ears cleaned out. I'm telling you that. Well, just don't tell me about it.

And it'll creep up on you where you had. I wondered about why I couldn't hear. I said, well, I guess you get old. You can't hear anything. But, man, that wax and that blocks off your ears, I never realized. I remember it well, Dad. Luke chapter five. It's making me queasy.

Yeah, we do talk about the Bible sometimes. I know this is an interesting question, Jace, but why would God put wax that could close off your ear? Why would he do that? Our body is generating this and it settles in your ears. I'm going to give you a personalized answer. You got an ear drum on both sides, but you've got blockage. Why would he put wax in your ears? Since you asked me, I want to give you a personalized answer.

So that when you debated whether the ear... Earwax came from saltwater or God, it'd be a slam dunk to go towards the creator. I thought you'd like that answer. I think you may have a point there. All right, here's the internet answer. On some reason, here's the internet answer. Earwax protects the ear by trapping and preventing dust,

bacteria and other germs and small objects from entering and damaging the ear. So that's what he unloaded? That's all a bunch of bad stuff. Protecting the delicate skin of the ear canal from getting irritated when water is in the canal. Well, to a point. But it's like, you know, once you get too much, you can't hear. So defeating the purpose. But sometimes too much can build up and block the ears.

So that's what happened to you. That's what happened to you. All right. Because you got to remember. This says as long as the ears are functioning properly, people should not be trying to remove it and leave it alone. But if it begins to cause problems or hearing issues, it needs to be removed. So right now, since I just saw the wax and a lot of it be taken from my ear, I'm shocked at how much wax it was.

But so do they say, how long do you wait before you have this check? I'm right here, Dad. For some people, a once a year visit to the ear care clinic is often sufficient, but for others they have to do it every six months. But Luke chapter five. I like cleaning your teeth. Luke chapter five says he who has. ears let him hear

well jays is moving on they save your life you're talking about saving your life I mean so I had an earwig get in my ear which the internet which you're reading from said they don't do which I did have that happen but the wax I met a live bug yeah and your other son Willie had a roach get in his actually one of those giant water what if you hadn't had wax

I would have the earwig would be in my brain That's right. He just come on through. So it's a roadblock for critters and other. So there's a thin, thin, your eardrum, and this wax, when that lays up against it, it's like mounding up dirt, you know, until finally it's blocked off. So I guess it's protecting a lot, but it's really doing some serious damage, I mean, some serious blockage. Blockage. Yeah.

So. I had the same, look, I was filming Saturday. I'm going to tell everybody, have your ears check once a year, at least have somebody look in there because you may be, I'm thinking about these old people in the old days. Yeah, but the ones that need checking can't hear you. So it's a problem. So we're telling people that, but since they can't hear it, they're not going to know to go get a check. So I took a left. We were out in the middle of nowhere, and I'm driving down the road, and I keep seeing signs that says, do not enter.

I was like, why do they keep having that? until I saw a car coming, drag race style, you know, your story. Yeah. I was in the, I didn't realize, there was two lanes. I didn't realize there were two lanes to the right. Where I should have been. So once I saw a car coming in my lane, I thought, oh. So I saw it way.

You're going the wrong way. Yeah, I saw it. So I was making an example. It's kind of like your ears, you know, it's, it's, do not enter. It's not for things going in. even tell you. They're like, don't stick your ear down in there. Whatever you have in there, you're just compressing.

Which the worst thing they came up with people did, and I've done it myself, is the Q-Tip, because all that does is like, that's like taking the old days, musket. That's like packing it in next to your ear down. That's no good. I mean, the one-up chapter five, that kind of pain for a few seconds, it's when he stuck that metal tool in there, and he said, this is going to hurt a little bit. I mean, I was begun to be lifted off the chair. I mean, it was rough.

So this has turned into therapy, death, near-death therapy from fail. I mean, he's at a crash. What a cold open to that. And now he can hear. I've never heard any podcast individuals say, you know what, I can just put that wax bowl out of my ear.

Because I know he has. I mean, I think everybody goes to be more podcasts on earwax removal. That's exactly what. It's an underreported problem out of America. It is. It's bad. I actually read it's the, you know, I had this conversation last night. I didn't read.

I had this conversation last night because my sister, who you all know, that would be your niece, Phil. She went with us on this trip. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was there. So she said that the one of the number one causes of cognitive decline in elderly people is hearing loss because they just check out. they can't hear said like, I'm not going to worry about it. So it's a big deal that you can hear.

I mean, it really is. I mean, you're back with us, Dan. You're back with us. He's back. All right, now that you can hear, let's read Luke 5. I will have. Before we did that, let's take another break. So we left off in Matthew 5.

Not Matthew. I mean, I'm sorry. I've been doing a lot of studies. In Luke 5, with the section that I call the Untouchables, because we first looked at in verse 12, of the man that was healed from leprosy. And you wouldn't want to touch him because it was against the law.

Right. And Jesus didn't have to touch it. Well, and it just, you'd feel creepy about it. Right. Because they didn't know if diseases were contagious. But you made the point when we talked about him that when you control. How contagious was that disease?

Well, who knows. Well, who knows. I think it was a variety of diseases. I think you're doing yourself a disservice when you go back and look at the Greek and the Hebrew of these words. words. I mean, it was various diseases of the skin and... Well, they knew enough to know that some of these were contagious, so you basically

wanted to say persona non-gras. The reason I bring up the point is, you think about it, if I'm not mistaken, it's still here. It is. To this day. It is, but it's curable now. I mean, at least treatable, yeah. There was this place in Louisiana where if you caught leprosy, they put you down there. There was a literal lepricone in our state. Yeah. It's, Yeah, I don't think there's a cure, but there's a treatment. I mean, I thought. Is that place there anymore? No.

So that's, so it is treatable. It is treatable. And people can live a fairly normal life. But I don't think it was necessarily the same strain of disease 2,000 years later. I mean, they're translating this leprosy, but that was not the, when you look at it, it was just diseases of the skin. Right. So, I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, there's a lot of, There would be a lot of things.

There's a lot of things. There's on TV about what you do about your leg being red, shows a little, show these gals, you know, they show them their leg or their arm. And it's just a red kind of a red den that before and after. If you put a little less stuff on there, you know, I don't know what you call that. I don't know. It's a not leprosy, but I don't know what you'd be called it. What do they call that?

Diseases of the skin. That's right. Exactly what this is trying to cover. The idea is that this was. This made them isolated. And so this is a person you wouldn't want to touch, and yet Jesus touches it. Then we got to the paralytic in verse 17.

But my point was out, if you hadn't been treated after 40 years, you're really going to look like a mess. Well, but you don't want to touch these people. Yeah. So I'm just saying, it's a wrong impression that you would even, no human wants to touch somebody with skin disease.

Right. Unless it's your mama. Yeah. And she's only doing it, you know. The one you were talking about it is psoriasis. They have the commercials for psoriasis. My dad's got that. Right.

And there's now like a medicine that helps with it. But yeah, stuff like that. But that's an autoimmune disease. Yeah, it has nothing to do with contagion. But you can imagine. That's a lonely life if you had leverson. Oh, it'd be terrible. That's the point.

That's the point. You couldn't go to the temple. And I don't think people would be running around these days and giving you a hug if they look to them. Well, that's the point of those commercials you're talking about because the idea is they feel isolated because of the way they look and it affects their life. That's what I'm saying. I brought up the point last time that it's like during COVID if someone calls within hearing, which would have been, it had to been real close to you at that time, Phil.

But you're getting away from those people. Yeah, because it's like, have they got it? Even subconsciously, you know. It's panic in the streets. Oh, there were videos of people on airplanes and some guys sit down there and he kind of constant. There'd be people recoiled in horror with their double shields on next to them like, oh my gosh, this person is, you know, it's terrible. So the idea is, is that Jesus, this little section that Luke does in the text, the next was the paralytic who couldn't get to Jesus,

but four guys dropped him down through the roof. We talked about that. But this is another guy that people would have just walked past, but there were four friends that so if we can get him to Jesus. Well, I still go back to my approach to it during the COVID thing. For three years, we were still preaching the gospel, and I was baptizing them. And I told them, I said, they had masks on all that. And I told them, I said, look, I said, you know, we're worshiping someone who raises the dead. I said, they say we can't get six feet and all that. I said, but the people, the powers that be don't understand.

is when you get ready to baptize somebody, it's a serious thing. Yeah. So I said, look, let's just take our chances to God will be with us. We won't catch it. Well, I never got it. Right. They don't know of it. And I baptized 600.

I got as close as you can get with them, but pushed them down in a fool of war. Well, your mindset, that was the same one that I have when I go on a mission trip. He said, man, you're going to a dangerous place. And I said, yeah, but I'm doing it on behalf of the Almighty. So if that gets me, maybe I was just lucky. What a way to go? What I'm saying is even if you had gotten COVID and died because you were sharing the gospel people and baptized them, at the end of the day, you know what we just said at your funeral. You know what he died doing what he loves doing?

Yeah. I never actually know. As a Christian, it is a different view of anything, whether it's a pandemic or anything else. It's a mindset. You know, one of the guys, the guy that hosted us, and Jason, you know, and he probably hosted you two in the Amish territory was telling me about he used to have to go back and forth to Minneapolis, Minnesota for his job. and he said they flew into a flock of geese one time and one engine goes down immediately he said and that other one was a little bit damaged because they went through this thing of geese and so he said when the pilot was coming in he kept having to kind of tip it over to keep it going and he just timed it out and landed but he said he was talking about how religious everybody got in a quick hurry on that plane yeah but he said the guy sitting next to him looked over to him he said you must be you must be a believer yeah because you don't seem like you're getting too out of sorts and And he said, I am a belief. He said, I'm scared.

He said, but at the same time, I know where I'm going. And he was telling me that was an opportunity to talk to that guy. And I thought, that's really what it's all about. In the moment, you're just like, we believe, you know. But these are people that needed Jesus is the point. And so we get to. By the way, there was quite a bit of persecution aimed against anybody that's religious during that COVID thing. Wouldn't you agree?

Oh, yeah. There was a lot of persecution. Well, especially because Christians wanted to keep meeting. You know, I mean, they just said, look, we believe God's going to take care of us. And it wasn't, oh, you can't meet because you might affect us. Actually, they were right. They were right. As it turns out, you're correct.

Yeah. You know, it should have been their call. The old guy in Florida, you know, straight in that. I mean, he just said, look, go on with your business and go ahead on. And I have to say, even Louisiana, our governor basically asked churches not to meet a certain amount of number of people, but he said clearly, we're not going to come in with law enforcement and force people meeting together. Yeah.

just so you know, which I like that approach. What he said was, here's what CDC says, but I'm saying, do let your conscience lead you, which was good. Let's take her last word. So we get to the third in what I'm calling the untouchables, but it's this third example, I think, of an untouchable, and that happens to be one of the disciples. And so this is Matthew or Levi, which was his Jewish name.

So we get to verse 27. it says after this, so after these other two, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector by the name of Levi sitting at his tax booth. Follow me, Jesus said, and Levi got up, left everything, and followed him. In verse 29, then Levi had a great banquet for Jesus at his house, and a large crowd of tax collectors and others were eating with them. But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect complained to his disciples. Why, so not to Jesus, which was interesting. Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners? So they aimed it at the disciples, but Jesus answers them and says,

it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. So what do you think, Judge? Well, I think coming off the paralytic, he has this, you know, which is easier for me to heal this. guy or to forgive his sins. Yeah. Well, by saying that,

you're basically implying that you have the power to forgive sins, which means that when you sin, you're sinning against this person. Yeah.

So, I think there's a picture in here. So when he gets to this, because you know, the text, I mean, I don't think, I think that's one thing culturally we can all agree on no matter what culture you're in. Nobody likes tax collectors. We don't want to pay taxes.

Revenuers, that's what we call it. And I think in this specific context when you go by, because you got the Roman Empire taking people out from their culture and making them collect the tax, and then you have all this extortion. going on because they're in a powerful position and they got Rome on their side and so they're just they have so many enemies from the people because they're being oppressed and they feel like they're traitors to their own people and so when you see Jesus pick out a tax collector sitting out here at the tax booth in a public way and says follow me I mean that's just not going to

go over well. No. And you're right to point that out because just like with us in the U.S., there were layered taxes. So you had the Romans who were occupying Israel, they want their cut. And it was just like the mafia. It's basically extortion. In other words, you pay us or we come in and besiege your cities and kill you. You know, it's interesting that in that culture, I mean, there were factions running out of factions in every direction. Right. But I look around now today, there's no difference, Al. No.

And that's my point. This society we live in now is full of factions based on all that stuff. Some of it doesn't make sense at all. Some of it just pure wickedness. But you say, there's all kind of factions running around out there. There are. And so just like in our case, if you looked at it. If somebody walked in there among them and healed one of them in the middle of all there, some disease,

there would be some excitement going on if you had an individual going around healing people. No doubt. And so it's like you have the Roman government. Then you had Herod and Israel. They're getting their cut. So some people are collecting taxes for them. Then we know because Jesus goes in the temple. you even have the people that are supposed to be there for people to worship, they're getting

their cut because you got to sell the doves and they're charging. It's a money-making enterprise. It's a money-making enterprise. And the old guy that's here is having to deal with that. And so you can, so to your point, Jay, is that made these guys a pariah in their own society. Just like we would say today, who likes paying over half of everything you earn to other people for taxes? Nobody's ever like that.

You expect to do some things for roads. and whatnot, but who wants to pay all that? You know, it's just unfair, and it was in their culture. So if you're claiming to be a king, or you're claiming to be some kind of leader, you just wouldn't think you'd make up your team of people like this. Now, he did leave everything, just like the fisherman, including the money. You leave everything, you leave everything. And it's almost like, as he was doing the big banquet, because, you know,

he had had the little money that obviously he was, it's like he's just going to have one big last blowout and invite people to talk to Jesus. That's what it feels like to me. Or he's trying to, you know, to lead his friends. The fact that he would go, because it says tax collectors and sinners, but in reality, we're all sinners. Right.

I mean, you're not going to have much, much, much company. If you do what the Pharisees said, they say they belong to this sect, complained to the disciples. Well, why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and see? centers. Well, if you called everybody that's a center, you wouldn't go eat with them. I think you're going to have a lot of... You're going to have a lot of dinners alone. I mean, a whole lot.

And even then, you're still with a center, even if you eat by yourself. But part of that's the whole cultural setup here, that when you shared a meal with somebody, that was a very intimate setting. And it still is to a certain degree. When you invite people over your house, they sit around your table, that's a level that's different than just saying hey to somebody, you know, in a parking lot. So it was the same way here. I mean, this was an intimate thing. Jesus and disciples went into this setting and that said something culturally. Yeah, I think if you put all these together, he makes the analogy that I can forgive sins, which is more weighty in the big picture, even though it wasn't to the paralytic in that

moment, which I think is why he did that. But instant healing gives you a lot of power. So he was doing one thing visibly to promise something he could do invisibly. Because when you say, well, he can forgive sins, that's kind of an invisible fact. I mean, just think about it. You know, like, well, anybody can say that. Who do you think you are? That's why it was so combustible. But then he starts using these analogies, which is ironic that Luke, who is a doctor,

then records where Jesus answered them because they're like, why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners? So he's at the part. Not only did he say follow me, but if you just look at this from 30,000 feet, you're saying this guy, he seems a little shady.

And I'm talking about Jesus. From their perspective, they're like, this just seems shady. What's he doing with the? Because they're saying sinners, you notice every time you see, it's in quotation mark. Because then Jesus said it's not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick.

Was he talking, that's something visibly. We're going back to the same principle. But he's saying, I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners. So when he gets to Luke 6, and I'm going to fast forward just because I think there's something in the language of using sinners in this context that you don't really find anywhere else in the Bible. because like if you go to 632, Jesus says if you love those who love you, because he's talking about loving your enemies,

but watch how he uses the phrase sinners. What credit is that to you? Even sinners, now this is Jesus talking kind of like we do. Even sinners love those who love them, and if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.

So you're like, what's he talking about? So verse 34, the second part, he says, even sinners lend to sinners expecting to be repaid in full. But then he has a drop mic moment, if he had a mic, because then he says verse 35, but love your enemies, do good to them, lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the most high.

and here's the phrase I was trying to get to, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. And so when you think about what he just said here, he's asking for a lot. He's referencing all these sinners, you know, why are we with even sinners and even the sinners do this? And I came to, you know, not call the healthy. But then he's like, but I'm, I'm kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

Well, who is that? I pretty much think that that's everybody. Yeah. Let me say this before we close. I want to make one point because I think when he says about the forgiveness of sins, it wasn't just that it was invisible. It was that he is claiming in that statement that he is deity, because that's why the Pharisees,

that's why their rebuttal was, who is this guy that thinks he can forgive sins? Only God can do that. So when he's making the claimant, that I can forgive sins. He's actually claiming to be deity. And so when you move into the story of all these guys, but like the leper is a great example of someone who, you know, is untouchable.

Jesus goes to touch. And the one who can forgive sins, we should be coming to him groveling at his feet. But yet that's not how the initiation happens. He comes to us first. And so it's like this whole, like the gospel is just kind of being, played out here. It hasn't happened yet, but it's in the process, and it's a precursor of the full gospel, which is that Christ ultimately died, was buried and raised on the third day. And so,

but this is the thing that Christ, the one who can forgive sins, God himself, instead of us coming to him for forgiveness, he's actually coming to us and dispensing forgiveness. It puts the initiation on him. I think that's what ultimately will get killed again. Well done. Well, that made the point where I was going. But, But Jesus did that in an illustration. He healed somebody saying, you know, I'm going to forgive his sins. Well, they're thinking that God's a million miles away. And he was saying, no, you're looking at him.

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