Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 70 | Willie Pays Jase to Stay Home, a Restaurant Owner's Coronavirus Wisdom & Quarantine TV Picks
Episode Date: April 1, 2020Jase was wary when Willie offered to pay him NOT to show up to Duck Commander, but he's feeling pretty good about it now. Phil, Jase, and Al share what they do with their old Bibles. Jase explains wh...y he liked the recently canceled "Messiah" series, and the guys offer a few spoiler-free movie recommendations. A newly baptized "Unashamed" listener has an inspiring take on the tough times the coronavirus has caused for his restaurant chain, Hwy 55. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am unashamed.
What about you?
The way I look at things, I'm not a very good student, I guess.
I struggled in school, obviously.
But I passed.
You said in your book that I carried you through pre-ins and school.
Oh, you did.
Well, and plus you had all these nerds like Al, you know what I mean,
who know these what I view as meaningless facts, which I'm glad someone knows them.
Well, that's right.
They're not meaningless.
But so he bought this, he said somewhere, but it's exactly on the same page.
It's neat.
So I want to.
And look.
The one I now have, Jace, by the way, is the same stewards he's given.
Remember Bob DeMoss?
Oh, yeah, Bob.
He makes Bibles.
But look, let me.
Remember, we converted to his family.
Oh, yeah.
And he sent me this one, which was like the old I had.
Right.
So I have a leather back now, and it's held together.
I get about four years out of a Bible before they fall apart.
but this one that's been two so that's two years old so well i wanted to tell careful with
they're getting harder and harder i wanted to tell joel that in the mail right now they're still
running the mail despite the coronavirus there is one of my books good call personalized and
one of the jace robertson pro series duck calls tuned by me which dad says is the best duck call we
ever made. It's the best one. I mean, better than anything. It's what I used all year and I gave
a little demonstration to some chick from, you know, LA yesterday. Yeah, you were talking about the
quarantine with the quarantine. How did that go? How did it, how did the LA chick, you know? She was a young
girl. I could tell that. And I figured, well, you didn't call her a little girl. I figured Los Angeles,
California. I'm thinking, okay, here we go. So I didn't know how she would take a guy who makes
bird sounds. But she was intrigued by it.
all.
You know, it's weird.
I have to confess.
You know, how do you feel about having my name on that since you just said it was the
best call ever?
As long as your last name is Robertson.
I don't care.
Keep it in the bloodline, Jays.
Bloodline, bloodline.
No, let me tell you what happened.
None of us are making anybody off in any way anymore.
No.
Phil, well, I am a little bit.
But you all signed a better deal than me.
No, I tried to quit.
I went in to Willys and said, you can have a lot.
have this. I'm not sitting and he's oh and I was thinking whoa whoa what I'm not I'm not working but
he's like well but you know how you know the duck calls are actually made I'm like well yeah
and he said so I want to retain you as a consultant in case we have some problem and I said so what does
that mean he's like it means you go home and do whatever you do which we've already
established on this podcast.
You don't have to.
It's not gambling.
It's skill set.
Genetics.
I want to get back on that again.
Let's leave it for another day.
We don't rode that horse.
So I said, look, here's what I'll do.
He said, when we need you, we'll call you.
So I thought, well, let's just try this.
Because if he calls me every other day, then we may have to.
But I'm not coming in here, Bill and Duck calls, well, here's what happened.
when um you know you know how the mold system works with their duck calls and they get they go bad
they get off i mean you when you try to people of the audience needs to realize you were in the
i brought you on board and and your particular skill set even down to making the reeds at one time
you headed up the the production production of gut calls for years for years and i understand
you taught me how everything works well now you know we had to train you
all these duck call builders when the show hit because we literally went from making
100,000 duck calls a year to a million so through that we got a lot of people with skills
who can build duck calls but they don't know the aerodynamics of the you know the details critical
when it gets into modes and all so willie and look he was like am we want to you know
market your face since we you know became famous on the show or whatever so I was like
this might be a pretty good deal for me
If I get paid for not showing up and just being a consultant,
this may be, but I wasn't sure, you know, it's not that I don't trust him,
but I was like, is he trying to hustle me?
Well, actually not.
You know what gets me about, Sa, he's some kind of consultant for a pipeline company.
Jace is a consultant, and really made him a consultant.
But nobody has ever came to me.
They have not one person said, we want to pay you money just to counsel,
just a little consultation.
I'm like,
consultation,
Jay's got it.
Si has it.
I'm sitting down here and thinking about,
if you'll pay me,
I'll consult people.
Look,
you got weeded out.
They say,
no,
you're out.
I'm like,
okay.
Well,
don't feel bad,
Dad,
I'm out too.
I don't feel bad.
My skill set.
My skill set.
So I'm going to tell you all the stories.
You would think if I trained him
and Willie's going to pay him to consult,
I'm like,
well,
where is my consulting fee?
Zero.
Because he can't,
because he knows he can't.
He can't.
He can't manipulate it.
He can't manipulate you.
See, he thinks he's manipulating me, but look, here's what happened.
So I go about three months.
I don't get a phone call.
No consultation.
And I'm getting a check.
I'm like, boy, this is.
And you're not worried.
You're not checking on it because you've got a sweet.
As long as the money is coming.
That's a good deal.
Oh, I know.
He's like an aired down dog.
He's as dumb as he looks.
I'm out there playing golf, you know.
and somebody's like, what are you doing?
I'm working.
Willie's paying me out here for a consult.
I'm thinking.
He's consulting as mine.
So then Willie calls me.
He's like, we got a problem.
Oh, here we go.
So they had this duck call that went off the rails.
And so here, look, here I'm being completely honest.
Willie's not going to listen to this anyway.
And so I can't figure out what's wrong with the thing.
You know, the mother went bad.
And we got all these parts.
I'm like, what are we going to do?
So I start tinkering.
We start changing the mold set up.
I don't want to get into all the details because people won't know what I'm talking about.
So I finally come up.
Everybody needs to realize, just stop right there.
Yeah.
That in the duck call world, we have, we have, we put a lifetime of work into duplicating the sounds of multiple species of ducks.
Right.
And to us, it's like playing piano by ear.
You say, well, how would you know when you've got a duck call that actually sounds exactly like a duck?
Well, your years of experience of listening to them, you'll know when you're on their right wavelength.
So it is more to it than meets the eye.
So there's a continue your story.
This duck call is not sounding like.
it's not functioning properly to sound.
It's like a piano note.
That note is not the right note.
What's fascinating is 40 years ago, we watched you.
We were kids.
I mean, we watched you figure that out.
That is correct.
You had recordings of ducks.
I remember some of that early stuff you did.
I was a man of the forest, a man of the swamp.
You say so when you heard a duck the way they sounded when they flew by,
you registered that and it was like,
I have to.
How do I get that whistle?
I have to build a device that mimics that precisely.
It was amazing.
Look, so I send it off.
You know, you have to work kind of intimately with the old man.
I send it off with the new plant.
Well, it comes back.
It's better than what I sent, which was, how many times does that happen in our not very often?
Rare, rare, rare.
So I'm like, awesome, made me look like a genius.
So I'm like, that.
It was so good.
I was like, I'd put my name on that.
And so they did.
I mean, that's how it happened.
And what they said to me was Stone is the one that married, my, your daughter.
Stone, that's how he got on.
But now he heads up.
Jace has trained him enough.
Or he's doing it.
But I will like to admit, Jay's that of all the people we could have had,
Stone is the best.
He brought the one and I looked down.
I blew the call first.
And I said, well, he said, this is our latest call when it came down to
Jace's, what they call it, Jace, it's a pro series.
Yeah, the Jace's pro series.
So I said, oh, yeah, I bet this is going to be good.
So the old guy that started the whole operation, I cranked down on it.
I blew it and I said, I said, Stone, this is the best one we've ever come up with.
Who come up with?
Then he brought Jason and said, no, Jace, he got out there and he.
Well, it was just, you know what?
I got lucky.
But I used that all winter this year.
That's the only one I use, same reed.
Every once in a while, get a little snuff in the reed or something.
You have to clean it out a little bit.
But overall, it held up better.
The sound was precise.
I mean, it was just exactly good.
Well, I got good news for you.
So we sold them for, what, a year or so?
Well, then we had another problem.
So you're sending your man that gave you the Bible a autographed.
Yep.
Yeah, so he'll get one of those.
And it's the new and improved.
because look, we had some more problems a year later,
but actually went through the same system,
and now it's better than it was the first time.
It just keeps getting better.
It just keeps getting better.
So I'm like, when?
So Jace is still getting paid.
So obviously, thank you.
What was Joel?
Joe.
Thank you, Joel, for doing that.
And some of the others have you sent me notes because they felt bad for Jase
because you saw the condition,
I mean, whole sections of his Bible,
coming out. I was like, Jay's at some point, you know, you're just going to be, you're going to try to
run over to First Peter, and it ain't going to be there. Yeah, wasn't there? The last time I spoke,
because it had gotten backwards because it comes out of a Bible. You know what's amazing, just so the people
will know, how in the world, because I said I get four years out of a Bible before it wears out.
Well, I'm looking at paper that comes from pine trees. This is where this paper came from. Can you
imagine for 5,000 year old writings going all the way back to creation, Moses, you know, 3,000,
BC, whatever. And you say, how in the world did they get that written down on animal skins or
papyrus? Do you remember when we went to, you remember when we went to, uh, get here, our Bibles,
we can't keep them together. Remember we went to Hobby Lobby and they took us back there to those
Bible and antiquities. We saw, was it, 1800 years was the oldest one. Yeah. They had.
some scrolls, 1800 years old. And, of course, they're Hebrews, so they're written backwards
from our perspective. It was amazing, wasn't it? They were like in these cases, you know,
and it was still together. You know what's weird to me, though, is, I don't know. Just to get the
writings to us, we're looking at high technology world with paper and all. But you say, well,
how many Bibles do you have to run through? They wear out. I mean, the pages fall out. They
get so, they're torn.
Well, unfortunately, for most Christians, they don't wear out, which is the problem.
But here's my weird thought for the day.
What do you, I can't find, I can't find it within me to throw it away once I've worn.
I know, I got a stack.
I can't throw them away.
I got a stack of them.
So what is the deal with?
Mine are given as gifts, different ones called.
They say, that old Bible you had, somebody said he would love to have one of your about.
And so, you know, once you start underlining this and that and the other and you got some passages, you know,
you put. I don't think it would be wrong. It's not wrong. But people would, I feel weird about it. I've
never thrown a Bible away. I mean, I have a whole. Everyone I've ever owned is in a storage building.
Because they print them. They're trying to make money. It's something you can't throw away.
Do you realize that the Bible has been the bestselling book for the history of books being sold every year?
Oh, yeah. The Bible is by far. I saw that somewhere. Yeah. It's the, it's the best seller every year since they've been keeping up with
You remember that rightfully so.
Rightfully so.
Remember that Denzel, Washington maybe?
Oh, yeah.
Prophet of Eli.
Oh, yeah.
The something, Eli.
Book of Eli.
Book of Eli.
That's a good.
It's raised all.
But if you, everybody's in their houses now with nothing to date, watch that, you know.
Oh, it's amazing.
It's about, it's about, well, well, I don't want to give it away.
But you need to watch that.
It's good.
Yeah, but don't watch it with your kids because there's red are.
So, so what's thinking was there's a lot of people have been impacted.
And that's why we appreciate it.
the gifts and stuff.
We had a,
well, Guy Kenny.
I actually let my kids watch that movie.
Really?
I did.
Why was it right on?
Just the violence?
I think it's cussing and stuff.
I mean, I told them,
I said, you're going to hear some four-letter words in here that are not right.
And if I hear you say them,
I'll whip your butt.
Yep.
But the overall theme of this movie is worth you watching, you know.
So I made them watch Saved Private Ryan.
People say, this is the dumbest thing ever.
But I'm like, I want you to know how this country got here.
I felt the same way.
I mean, it was violent.
I probably shouldn't have done it, but I said,
boys, this is going to be your first rated R movie?
And I want you to watch it.
I had a lady at church years ago when the passion came out,
and she was like, you know, Passion of the Christ,
she was like, well, we can't, you know, I'm getting the whole church.
We rented a whole theater for the church.
I'm like, we got to go see this.
And I want us to see it together.
And I'd already seen it, you know, it's just so powerfully moving.
Everyone needs to see it.
Yeah.
And so she, but she's arguing with me.
She says, we can't see that.
And I was like, was it right?
Was it right at R?
Yeah.
She said, because it's right at R.
And I was like, let me just say something.
The Bible's rated R.
Yeah, all throughout.
The Old Testament, look, you start skimming through there.
Oh.
Have you read the song of Solomon lately?
Yeah.
I mean, we're talking about a woman's anatomy and graphic and, you know,
read some Leviticus on some of their laws there.
Look, having said that, I've been wanting to talk about this for a while.
I know I've hijacked your thought.
But look, everybody stuck.
Oh, hang on, we've got to take a break.
Oh, do you?
We have talked right through the break.
Hang on, we'll take a break.
We'll come right back.
Well, you said the Bible is R-rated, rightfully so.
But I wonder if there's any violence in the Bible.
So the Lord sent a plague on Israel, 2nd Samuel chapter 24, verse 15.
So the Lord sent a plague on Israel from that morning until the end of the time designated.
And he said it's going to last about three weeks.
And 70,000 of the people from Dan to Beersheba died.
You're like, you mean it's a pestilence, a plague, in time judgment on his own people?
That's what it says.
So all I say is somebody said, well, where in the world is comes?
You can't blame God.
I'm like, well, he's done it before.
In some cases.
I just read you a text one of many.
I've told people that many times, though, with, you know, if you're, you have a relationship
with God and you understand Jesus, you know, we talk more about the cross probably in the
religious world, which is fine because that's the death for our sins.
But you can't leave out the resurrection.
If we're in good graces with God who has the ability to raise dead people from the ground,
death is just not viewed as a problem with him.
So what I was going to tell you, since we're spending so much time, being quarantined.
Why you there, Jay?
I wasn't really anywhere.
Yeah, but mentioning people's zero went on the cross and say nothing about the resurrection.
The Apostle Paul, this is First Corinthians, about 15, about 12.
Love it.
Come on.
If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained?
If the dead are not raised, let us eat and drink for tomorrow.
We die.
Don't be misled.
Bad coming.
It corrupts good character.
The Apostle Paul said, if there's no resurrection, I'm to get here to y'all.
I'm fighting wild beast.
I don't know exactly what he meant, but evidently he had a little ruckus.
A melee with wild beast.
With wild beast.
He says, look.
Where's that?
Where's that?
First Corinthians 15.
Where?
About verse 31.
31.
Yeah.
But so if you read that, Al, you say, you know, what he's just saying is, look, if there's no resurrection, the problem is in America right now,
are people are eating, drink, and being married because tomorrow we die, they don't believe in the resurrection.
I wonder if they put him in like a gladiator thing with the wild beast or whatever, you know.
I don't know.
I don't know, that's interesting.
I hadn't really noticed that before.
But what I was going to say is there's a new show out, highly controversial.
It's on Netflix called The Messiah.
I saw the ads for it like before the first season.
I watched it.
Look, because we've worked with Hollywood for years.
And as critical as I am of Hollywood overall, I mean, most of the time I'm, you know, just horrible.
And by the way, R-rated movies typically are.
bad, which is why we sat.
But you just can't throw your brains away and say every R-ready movies.
But I thought, you know what, I'm going to watch this because I want to know what they're projecting to the world about the Messiah.
You know what?
I was pleasantly surprised.
I thought it was good because now it's right at all.
I'm just going ahead and clarify on that.
If you can't spit out the bones while you're eating the fish, don't watch it.
If you filmed what the Bible says when it gets into sinful behavior and immorality and everything,
if you just filmed what is said, oh, it would be double, triple X?
Well, it would.
The difference is.
He did it with what happened to Jesus.
And trust me, it's very R-rated.
This is a little different just because like you read the Bible, you're not going to see an F-bomb or whatever.
But you watch the Messiah, you're going to hear a few.
but it's not in the grand scheme of things it's not that bad it's not like a crime you know
a gangster whatever you know it's not every other word but here's what i'm saying all they did
was ask the question and i'm not going to ruin the show for you it's like 10 episodes they asked
the question is jesus if you had a modern if jesus came like today that's basically kind of
the gist of it who do you say jesus is and so they walk
that line, they basically portray, is he just an imposter? Or is he actually the son of God? And so,
you know what? That was the argument at the N. Now. That's why it works for me, the show,
because they, they don't know, if they had to have Jesus doing something, anything wrong or sinful,
I'm out on that. But there's nothing there. There's a, somebody did a movie years ago called
The Last Temptation of Christ, some big name, maybe Scorsese.
somebody and in it Jesus has an affair with this you know oh yeah I never I've never seen that
and to me that wouldn't work now here's what I think offended religious people is uh
course I'm thinking what kind of religious zealot are you anyway if you watched it you know if you
were like saying here's why I'm offended well I mean I thought you didn't watch rated our shows
but anyway here's why they got they even rate them though on Netflix or they even rated I'm just
telling you. I know. I know because you saw it. But I'm saying, I think it's mature. I don't even
know. I think it says mature. It's not, there's not, I hate to say what they're not.
Yeah, you're going to say that. If there's anything in there that was really bad, I fast forwarded it,
because I don't remember anything. But here's why people got offended in the religious world,
because it makes the religious people look terrible. But guess what? A lot of what they were
betraying is actually true about religious people. Like, one of their concepts was tying
everything about their religion to the actual building.
Like you go to the building.
Let me give an example.
The pastor at the local church, his wife,
she had some issues.
And so did the pastor, by the way.
She dropped a couple of elf bombs, you know.
And I'm sure people are like, well, now I can't believe they're portraying a pastor's wife.
Well, I got news for you in real life.
There are pastors wives who have dropped f bombs.
It's happened.
It's probably, yeah, it happens a lot.
Well, I'm just saying it's like, but you see something like that and say, well, that would never happen.
We're flawed human beings.
Did they have to show it?
Maybe not.
But that's real life.
Some people, you know, we have moments of weakness or whatever.
And so I'm saying that kind of stuff, I think, is what people found offensive.
But overall, I think they pretty much got it right.
You know, now a lot of what happened in there from a theological standpoint, which, you know,
we can devote a whole podcast to this.
What happened was is when people thought this may be the Messiah,
the religious world,
well,
since they have a different view like of revelation or,
you know,
here's the afterlife where these wars are going to happen.
I don't know what view.
We can sum up that view.
There's a word like this long to sum that up.
But,
well,
they show all them,
but that would happen in our life.
If people thought that Jesus was actually,
here, people who have a different view of what's going to happen in the afterlife, they're coming.
So all these religious people, they're like, well, it's time to go to war.
You say it, I mean, so they portray that, but that's the truth.
There are people who believe that.
The most religious people on the...
Hold on them. Let's take a break and then connect.
Here's a group of individuals, the most religious group on the face of the earth.
At the time Jesus was on the earth, he said to them, you brood of vipers.
how can you who are evil say anything good?
For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
He's talking about the difference between good men and this group.
Well, these were the pillars of the religious world at the time.
That's right.
For Jesus to call them a brood of snakes, that's pretty blunt.
I usually don't call anybody, even if they're out there,
especially people in the religious world.
I usually don't use the terminology, you bunch of snakes.
All right.
Well, it says even in St. Corinthians that the devil himself masquerades as an angel of light.
Well, the religious people were the bad guys of the Gospels.
Yeah.
I mean, the Pharisees.
That's why many people in America have an aversion to what they call organized religion
because this was the epitome of organization, organized religion.
Well, look, full disclaimer, there's two or three episodes of the series at the end that was
very difficult for me to watch because they were leaning toward imposture,
imposter, you know, and so you're just, it's like you're taking jab,
because as a lover of Jesus, well, I believe in everything he is and does.
So when they tried to make him look like an imposter, which I realized, well, that's Hollywood
doing it because they're, they want to bounce off both where you're not sure which one
it is, which is in reality.
He was labeled with that throughout his ministry.
imposter but at the but at the end you know what they were I thought fair if you can make it to the end
and and you're not sure that's what made you that's what kind of made the show work is you know
they worked the plot line of is he really the son of God well here's all this evidence well here's
what I want to say about the show from a biblical theological viewpoint you got to remember
that all the people in Jesus is day because you if you
put yourself in that day and you say what would I think because that movie or the TV series
really kind of makes you think that way you're like what would I think if I saw a miracle would I
would my first instinct be no that had to be a trick or did he do it well think about what
Jesus did you got four books Matthew Martin Luke and John all the miracles he did he fed the
5,000 he healed people he you know he walked on the water and well after all
that happened. You get to the book of Acts chapter one and it says the believers were together in one
place. And I'm thinking the number would have been at least 100,000 just from people who had seen
the miracles. Yeah. And it's 120. And that's why I like the show. Because even if you saw a miracle,
in your mind, you have to do something with that. You've got to think.
think, well, wait a minute here.
You know, I mean, just think if you actually saw a miracle in real life.
Your mind would have a hard time believing it.
Look, even if you saw it.
And when it got right down to the crucifixion,
they've been running within three years,
a group of individuals who had witnessed the miracles, Jace.
They all hit the road.
They all hit the road.
They all hit the road.
It wasn't enough to keep them there.
And look, even when I read, I think, a couple podcasts,
in Luke 24, when he showed himself the scars, and it says, then they believe, or right before
that, it says it, they said they still didn't believe because of joy and amazement.
Yeah, but some doubted.
I mean, but then it says they still didn't believe because of joy and amazement.
It was like, it's too good to be true.
I'm happy.
I'm amazed, but.
I just don't believe it.
Because think about it, have you ever seen anything come back to life?
Nope.
You ever seen anybody really walk on the water?
No.
There's been people who've walked on the water before as a trick.
You know, they put it out there.
They're like, because I don't want to give the show away,
but there's moments in there.
Just think if you had a modern day Jesus doing the exact same thing.
Well, now in our TV world, everything he was doing was going viral.
Because they're like, but you see other things that go viral
that seem to be superhuman or miraculous.
And you're thinking, yeah, I mean, think about all the UFOs.
They got all these pictures.
Oh, yeah.
You've seen the same one.
I mean, you got Bigfoot out there.
I mean, we took a picture of Martin on a deer cam, and guess what?
I thought it was Bigfoot.
When I first saw it, I thought, you have found Bigfoot.
Oh, no, it's Martin.
He works for us.
Burley.
What's that commercial say?
What's that commercial say when that old grill was asking about it, you know, what do you think about Bigfoot?
And he said, Bigfoot, he looked down at his feet when they were big.
He said, my name's Dale.
Yeah.
That's the way I feel about Burley.
Sorry, Martin. I call Martin.
Well, Martin has big foot tendons.
Yeah, he's got a big head.
DeAndathal look.
Yeah.
I love how you label people, Phil.
I mean, the first time he met Martin, what did you call it?
Horse head.
Yeah.
I thought.
I mean, the guy is nervous about being Phil.
He's a new employee.
Willie's like, here's, you know, he's going to start working for us.
And henceforth, you shall be known as horse head.
Phil said, you got a head like a horse.
So then he was named Horsehead for.
about two years. I mean, you want to be around here, you better have thick skin.
That old burly.
Old burl.
So where were we out?
I don't know where we were. I took a detour.
We weren't anywhere. Two or three times I tried to start us and we got off to.
That was really good. Yeah, let's introduce what we're going to do from the book of John.
Yeah, well, let me tell you this short story and then that'll get us to John 3 because
John 3 is where we're going to be.
for a while because you know what the number one which this is weird the number one email that
we're getting because you're sending them to me they're sending them to al he sends them to me and
every once in all i send some to you you get a new bible i'm like okay this is a good one but uh i'm only
send you the one the good one for some reason uh people are asking about you know baptism so much it's
the number one issue that people ask about and so we figure based on that
we would spend a couple podcasts on it because we're in John 3 as the book of John goes.
Yeah, I knew we were going to get to John 3, which really explains a lot about baptism.
And so a lot of you have been sending questions about baptism.
But I was going to mention a guy named Kenny that came through a few weeks back.
And a great guy, a seeker, you know, he was searching for that relationship with God.
The podcast has really spoken to him.
And he's a poker player, Jays.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, yeah.
And he's not get back.
into that. I don't have time.
So, but he told dad, I think he told dad, maybe it was
Si, because I made him too. He was like, I'm a poker player.
And I was like, are he too? And, uh, he said,
Cy's a gambler. Yeah. Who plays poker?
See, you keep going there. So he said, here's the thing. I think he told
this to Dad. He was like, I'm only three quarters in. I'm ready
to go all in. And he made the motion of the chips going in. And he
meant spiritually. And so he did. And, um, and dad baptized him.
And it was really, the reason I bring it up is, you know, I know Kenny listens.
And the river right back behind.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, really?
That's right behind it.
I like it when people get baptized in the winter in the river.
Yep.
Because you know what?
That's dedication.
That's right.
Because they're fixed a freezer, but I'll finish the story.
So, yeah, so Kenny, you would have loved this baptism because dad was being all compassionate
because Kenny was like, I'm ready to go.
And dad was like, here, put these waiters on.
It won't be quite so cold on it.
So, but when you get baptized in waiters, something happened that I've never seen before.
I've never seen it both.
Wait a minute now.
Yeah, he had waiters on and dad had waiters on.
Well, that wasn't a good idea.
Right.
Well, dad was trying to be compassionate.
You didn't want to get cold.
You're going to fill your waiters up.
Well, he tied.
Nope.
No, just you're way behind the curb.
Did he get wet?
No, listen, you strap the chest on his waiters.
You strap that tight right here.
You strap it tight.
Your baptism is you died of sin and you're buried.
So you're going under the water.
You die to sin, therefore you're buried with Christ.
Your faith is saving.
Coming again.
So look, so when he goes down, it's 1001 and he comes back up.
The water does not have time other than just a little seepage.
And that's true.
But if you're going to baptize people in a wilderness type area in the wintertime,
I just wanted to make it easier for him as far as the shock of the cold water.
I'm on disagree.
Let them just get the full effect.
He said, I need some cold as Kenny's word.
But here's what happened.
So this was funny.
You'll appreciate this.
Dad probably didn't even realize that happened.
So when dad takes him under, what happened was he had those tight around his chest where
there's air in there.
So when he took him back, his boots popped up out of the water.
Like that big air rush was inside there.
Well, he was like a cork.
He just went whoop.
And he like, when you took it.
him down, his feet went straight up out of the water. I've never seen that happen before because
most people, their legs stay under the water. And when he came up, because it's deep down there at that
flooded boat dot, he came up the look on his face because like, I think he thought he was
fixing to take off because it had to have felt like this wind rush. Yeah. So anyway, so Kenny is a new
brother fired up about, I mean, he drove home that and he said, and tell what he did. I got the check
So yeah, so that's why I'm telling the story.
So he owns a restaurant chain.
And of course, coronavirus has hit him super hard.
So I sent him a note yesterday because he sent me a letter.
When I got back home from my last trip, he sent a letter just thanking us for, you know, being a guide for him and for you baptizing him.
And so in your name and my name and Lisa's, because we had him over dinner, he sent a check to Miaoo.
$5,000.
grand for it just as a you know thank you for he said you know I'm all in so it was interesting so I
sent him a note and I said hey how are you fair and you know with this coronavirus you got a restaurant
chain you know not good I mean that's terrible food so he said here's what he said he sent me a note
and I wanted to mention it because I thought it was the right approach in our mindset and this is a
brand new Christian and he said you know I've lost 50% of my business I mean these franchises you
know, he said, I'm sitting in them notes and I know you probably having a hard time paying your fees,
pay me what you can pay me, pay your employees, try to do the right thing, you know, if you're
getting shut down, he said, but you know what? As a Christian now, somebody that's all in for
Christ, he said, I'm not even worried about it. He's like, the Almighty's going to take care
of it and take care of me. And I thought, you know, so I thought about him coming to Christ right
before this pandemic hits. He's got a huge restaurant chain. Obviously he's got a good heart. He,
you know, donated to me a move. But I thought, man,
for him, the timing could not have been more perfect to now understand the Christian side of things where you're like, you know what, even if we've got a business, even if we're struggling.
I mean, we have a struggling business.
Mom and I have a bakery together, and we had to shut it down for a while, but we're not like just wringing our hands.
And he comes to mind when one walks with God, one is never alone.
Right.
He gets that.
Exactly.
That's what church leaderships across the country, because you know me, Al knows this is a sore subject with me.
I cannot stand like these churches that do a series on giving, you know, because they look at the number.
I know where this is coming from.
I'm like, they went in there and look, well, contributions are down.
Let's do a series on giving.
I'm like, if you want people to give, you do the same thing you do with anything else in life.
You get them hooked on Jesus.
You know, when somebody surrenders or like he said, I'm all in for Jesus, and then at the worst time to be a restaurant owner during the coronavirus where they literally shut you down.
Yeah, it can't go in there.
Yeah.
The stocks of the restaurant stocks, trust me.
I was going to ask you that the other day.
South.
You know, I only have a couple, but, of course, they'll be back.
So what point do you want to buy them back?
See, that was my.
Because at some point they're going to come back.
Oh, they're coming back.
You're just kind of timing it out.
You got to.
Remember, you can't look at the stock market as real money, even though it is, because it's almost like a game like that.
Like I think one of the best, let me give you, you know, these people, they, people, you know, on TV, they never give stocks, actual stocks, because they're, they feel like that, you know, what if they're wrong, too.
But I'll give you one.
Texas Roadhouse, it's a, it's an up-and-coming stock.
You know, they figured out how to make money.
Well, that thing, I was way up in it.
And then the coronavirus hit.
So guess what?
Now I'm way down.
So I didn't sell it because it went down so fast that I couldn't sell.
I mean, I guess I could have tried it.
And so guess what?
When it went down for, what, three or four days, you know, when it got really low, I just started buying some more.
Well, since then, it's already rebound.
I'm almost back to even just because when you buy all the way down,
well, now you've cut your cost in half.
Well, I thought it was a good model before that.
Now it's cheaper.
So it'll come back.
There's one thing about humans that I know, they got to eat.
That's right.
And there's so many yuppies in this world,
their people are not, you know, cooking for themselves.
They're sitting there staring at the ceiling,
wondering when they can go back to Texas roadhouse.
And look, we want to encourage you guys to get takeout.
and help these guys because they're I mean we've been I've been doing it just I mean I got plenty of food
to cook but I've been doing it just so I can help these restaurants because I mean you know stay in
so if you're in the Carolina area highway 55 as a is a burger joint that's kennie's places so
give them some business I'm sure they'd appreciate it let's take a break and then we'll come
back and get into John 3 well let's introduce John 3 yeah so basically that's all we have time to do
we've been you know it's been a little while since we were in John 3
but we're right after the, you know, Jesus, we had the wedding,
we talked about the change in the water into wine,
then Jesus kind of had what I call the temper tantrum,
temple tantrum, where he went in and flipped the tables and turned everything over.
And you preached that.
Yeah, that's on our website, by the way.
And it was, I thought it was actually.
I thought one point you made that was really good,
and we're talking about giving money and despite difficult times and stuff like that.
when you made the point about where it says in 24, 224,
but Jesus would not entrust himself to them for he knew all men
because he knew, you know, that what was in their heart.
What was in their heart.
He did not need man's testimony about man,
for he knew what was in a man.
But you made a point, I'll let you make the point about how Jesus trusts us
because he knows us.
Well, I thought it was a really good point.
Yeah, and I talked about how,
I went back and used Job as an example, and there are a lot of other people in the Bible that Abraham was one who was called a friend of God.
So, you know, it's the idea that we only think of it as a one-ray relationship that God is so great and we're so bad.
But God doesn't look at us that way.
I mean, he trusts us.
He calls us his friend like Abraham or Joe.
Despite our flaw.
Despite our flaws.
You know, he knows that.
But I thought that was a really good point because you think here I am in the coronavirus.
You know, we talked about Kenney, and he owns the restaurants, but he comes to the Lord.
He knows he's going to live forever.
It's giving him purpose now.
His mission now is not to make money.
It is to make disciples, just like he is, and use what he has to help that.
And then he's by no admonishment from us on his own says, you know what, the last thing
the evil one would expect me to do right now with me.
me, you know, struggling them in the restaurant business,
is to give money to some people who need it.
Well, you think about these families.
His rate of income, nose died, but he was still generous.
He gets it.
Well, he's given, look, think about the families who have kids with Cliff,
lip, and pallet during this time, who may be out of a job,
who they're already financially strapped.
Jayce, you were in the boat most of the time,
once you became about 12, 15 years old,
and you too, Al, y'all rode around with me.
I'm raising the nets when I left.
We'll try eight or ten.
Yeah, y'all would go down there and you would run up.
You'd have got to run the nets.
I got a trip going somewhere.
So that Jace would run them, you know.
But from there, just moving forward,
you stay faithful to the Lord, you say,
out of that kind of, out to them cold, rainy days,
I mean, it was rough.
And you look back at it, you said they just stayed the course, kept their faith in God, and they looked up one day.
Well, here's the way, here's the way I tell it when I'm speaking to an audience, because I'm visual.
So when I give my speech, different from y'all, I do it in picture.
I have pictures on the screen.
And no notes, just pictures.
And I go by the pictures.
And so I show a picture of our family in 2017.
It was the last night we filmed Doug Dynasty.
and it's a stately picture.
You've probably seen it for it's in Willie's living room
and all of our families are there and everybody was the end of an era.
It was the last time we were going to film together.
And I show that picture.
I'm speaking to audiences that love our show and love the family.
And so I said, what about this family?
Oh, we love that family and everybody claps.
And I was like, but you know what?
Way back before this picture, you know, there were struggles.
And I talk about some of your past, some of my past, some of the issues we had.
also talk about that 40 years that we spent down here doing just what you described. And I said,
we were literally living on manna. I mean, God would send enough fish into nets for us to eat
and pay the bills. That's manna. And that's what he did with the children of Israel. So I was like,
and you know why I think he did it? Because he, because he's outside time, he knew that family
in 2017. He knew we were going to be people who are going to love us and people are going to, you know,
want to talk to us and be like us and blah, blah, blah. But he didn't want us to,
think it was us. So he put us through a 40-year humility training program. No doubt about it.
Right out here on the Washington River. So when the day came, when we'd be, you know, people
thinks we're a big deal. We'd say, no, it's not really us. It's, it's him. He did. Yeah, we're a river
at. We're river at. But we have the Holy Spirit of God, which makes us indestructible and have
something to say. Exactly. So we didn't really introduce Nicodemus and we're out of time. But
Well, I think they should read it.
Yeah, so read John 3.
Read it carefully.
And our next podcast, we're going to dive into, this is a great story, a lot of really good stuff,
and we're going to answer a lot of baptism questions because they're right here.
I think John 3 should be in the top five chapters of the Bible.
You are correct.
John Chapter 3.
Think about what's the most famous verse.
John 316.
You see it everywhere.
Okay.
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