Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 701 | Korie Spills the Tea on Jase's & Willie's Teenage Romance Dramas

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Korie tells all on the surprising adolescent romances at the summer camp she went to with Willie, Jase, and Missy. Korie also reveals her initial thoughts about their “little duck show” and how she knew it would be a hit. Jase reveals what he’s really doing when he zones out during the podcast, and Phil wonders why his daughters-in-law and their families would want to marry into a family of hard-core rednecks. The guys and Korie talk about the things they actually miss from the pandemic era. Al sets up a discussion for Luke 6. Get your tickets to "The Blind" this week to send a powerful message to the entertainment industry that millions of us will show up for movies that share the truth, redemption, and hope we have in Jesus: https://www.fathomevents.com/theblind In this Episode: Luke 6, verses 1-11 https://philmerch.com – Get your “Unashamed” mugs, shirts, hats & hoodies! "The Blind" hits theaters on 9/28/23. Get sneak peeks, updates & insider exclusives: https://theblindmovie.com — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome, Corey. Your first time to the unashamed lair. We did find out we just have a rat infestation. Oh, great. These are mice. They're not red. Oh, is that right? I can tell by the the dropping size of the dropping. So if something runs across your foot. The difference is just size, they're right? Yeah, so I mean. But there's, you have a hundred, well, hundreds of droppings to analyze that I noticed that they're all quite small. Normally you don't have an infestation if you don't have any products, food sources,

but not in this case because there's no food sources for them. I think it's because. Well, that we know of. They don't know of. It's biscuit droppings. You are dropping biscuits. Would you eat the Chick-fil-A biscuit? You're not cleaning up after yourself.

Oh, the crumbs. You're coming for the crumbs. You're exactly right. Good cause that. I didn't even know that was here. I thought that was the voice of the love. Lord intervening the truth. Far from it, far from it.

You have the spirits, right? You have the spirit. I don't have the spirit in me. The mystery of godliness is that Christ is in you. That's right. Okay. So, Corey, we've had Willie on a few times. We had John Luke on as well with Willie a few a while back.

We had your mom on with Shelly Tomlinson. I'm not sure, I don't know if that one's aired or not yet. So it's great to finally have the true. matriarch of the Willie Wing on the Unashamed podcast. It took y'all along in how many episodes before I get invited? 700. Yeah. The last,

this is 701, right? This is 701, which I- Letter late to never. That's right. So Missy was on 700, and I had in my notes, and I forgot to mention that we are now the West, the Western Robertson 700 Club, because we have hit 700 podcasts. Isn't there a show called The 700 show? Yes.

It was the other Robertsons. Oh. That's the West Roberts. That was the whole setup. I did not get that. I'm glad you're jumping right in there. Well, most people probably had no idea what you were talking about. No, I think most people know.

I think you're the one. I think most people, yeah. So actually, I'm friends with the other Lisa Robertson. Oh, tell us about that. Yes, Pat Robertson's daughter-in-law is also Lisa Robertson. And we're good friends. And I've actually texted her in family group texts a few times accidentally and invited her to Christmas whatever.

And she's like, this is the other Lisa Robertson. Are we kin to these people? Probably back down the line. Back to Scotland. Back to Scotland. They're in Virginia Beach. So they got off right when the boat landed and just stayed there. Yeah.

We kept, ours were probably were sent away. Yeah, we got kicked out. Keep going. Send that groove and keep going. Keep moving, yeah. I know we wound up in Nashville at some point because, Dad, your, I think it's great grandparents, were migrated over from Nashville to North Louisiana. That's why I don't go any deeper than Matt Dillon.

Wait, Matt Dillon, like the actor, Matt Dillon? No, I think he's talking about the Western. We've had the same conversation before. Yeah, nobody younger than 60 even knows who Matt Dillon from Gunsapokie is. So you know how a while ago? I didn't get the 700 Club, well, you don't get Matt Dillon. Wasn't there like a guy named Festus on there?

Oh, yeah, Festus Hagen. So Dad's always talking about Matt Dillon. So Alex and Maddie are here working on the show, and they kept thinking, what is Phil's infatuation with the actor Matt Dillon? Because there's an actor named Matt Dillon, a real person, dad. And they couldn't figure it out.

They kept looking up movies. They thought, what does he? He shows you that what happens to the, the sinful Oh When you get away from gun smoke Is that that's where you It's called boot heel

Okay I got to tell this So Phil comes over to our house the day And it's early and we're not there And Mary Kate tells me that she has to She helped you find gun smoke on our TV, right? Yeah She texted me she was like I had to download

some app that you don't even have That is just like gun smoke all day every day for old people back they had him. And she found it. And she found it. Yes. Yes. But there is a connection with Matt Dillon to Jason Bourne.

So that there is a, he was the guy. Didn't he play Jason Bourne? No. That's Matt Damon. That's Matt Damon. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. Stick with words that nobody knows because your, your category is not movies and entertainment.

Oh, man. I don't get caught up in the whole thing. Matt Dylan played. could not be any further away from the truth. Who is Matt Dillon played, yeah, he played in the outsiders. He was in the outsiders. He was in the outsiders. Yeah, about 90s.

Yeah, 2000s guy. Oh, my gosh, we're off and running here. So we were at our event, we were doing Saturday night. Dad was, the guy asked dad a question. He said, would you rather kiss Miss Kay or call in a bunch of ducks? Which would be your first choice, which was. That was a good one. Yeah, it was a good one.

Dangerous question. And dad paused a second and he said, you know, it's like old Matt Dillon. And he just paused. And none of these people have a TV. No, they're Amish, a bunch of Amish. And it was just crickets. And dad, dad waited a minute and he said, what was the question? Good deflection. I don't feel like that was kind of smart. And then when he asked the question again, dad said, oh, those are both equal. Okay. Which I thought was a pretty good answer. Good answer. Here's what you should have said. You should have said, I love to give Ms. Kay a kiss after I've shot a limb of ducks. Yeah. Well, that's kind of what he said, yeah.

Okay. Well, what did Matt Dillon have to do with all that? Nothing. I mean, I don't know where Dad was going, but once the audience, it was just like you had just said, I don't know what you would have said to create complete silence out of 1500 people, but nobody reacted to it that day. It was just nothing. And I was looking over that.

brains were like how does this relate yeah a handful of people that watch tv and the audience were thinking the actor madden well that's my opening line because when i i went to the same event before they did a couple years ago but i took tons of pictures before i got up and so i'm thinking because he said the guy the environment is like these people don't have a tv and we're kind of primitive here so i just thought you know what i'm going for it i got up there and i said i took a lot of pictures with some of you and what that tells me is that if y'all say y'all don't have a TV, you're lying. Wow, that's a good way. It was like, welcome everybody to the moment.

There was a hesitation, and then everybody laughed, which they also said they're not going to respond. So I said, I don't know if you're all watching it in the closet or if y'all going to a hotel. And so then after I was finished, the guy said, what they do is they rent, they would rent hotel rooms and all gather up and watch y'all show. show. Oh, okay.

So they don't have a TV, but they go, they can watch a TV. That was one of the finest groups of people I've ever talked to. I have no doubt that they were not members of the kingdom of God. Well, you had a lot in common with them, Phil. You don't have cell phone. You know, you're pretty, you don't go to town. Don't wear a watch. Keep simple.

Yeah. Keep simple. When the guy that was hosting us told us, I told Jason this on the podcast that a lot of people from when Jace was theirs, came to him and said, can you show it, because they don't have a computer, but can you show us on the computer what the duck guy said about us on this podcast? Oh, cool. And it wound up leading a lot of people to Christ. That's awesome. So it was really a neat thing. Okay, where was this? Because I feel like we'll end up in there, too. It was in Ohio. Mount Hope, Ohio. Okay. Yeah, it was a heart of Amish country. Okay. We did one in Lancaster or Lancaster? Lancaster. I've been there too.

Yes, we've done that there. And it was awesome. Great people. My favorite memory was driving in and there were kids mowing the grass with hand sickles. Wow. And there was a bunch of them out there. They were just whacking the grass. I thought, boy, that is just something you don't see. It's just like your house. You don't see it every day.

Just like a Zach's house. He would need hand sickles because Zach, it looked like every lawnmower at your house was in disrepair the last time I was there. They were all just parked in different places. At the time I talked to Zach on the phone, you're like, given instruction, I'm not saying yelling, but it's close. See your kids about like what to do. Like, no, park my truck over there. Move that. Moe that.

Take out that trash. That's exactly. You don't know why that. It's because the old days kids were assets and now they've turned into liabilities. And I'm trying to buck that. I'm trying to turn them back into an asset. You're doing a good job. That's what that is.

So you make a good point, Corey. because people have different kind of phone etiquette. So when you talk to mom, she's talking to other people while she's relaying everything you're telling her to dad to whoever else is in the room. You know what Al said? And changed it slightly. Yeah, it was a little switch, right? She's interpreting everything to somebody else.

That's her style. And then, Zax, you're right. It's always dealing with something else going on while you're having the conversation. You see some menacing child or, oh, don't go there. Yes. Bring me back my change. That's it, too. Classic, Zach.

I didn't know you were paying attention. Now that makes me nervous, guys. Zazza has to find that mute button for when he's dealing with kids. I've been a robberts long enough to know you save up these things, and then when you get a microphone, you tell the world about them. That's exactly what happens, yeah. That's why Missy doesn't listen to the podcast. She can't take it.

She's like, I try to this. couldn't take it. Because she can't deal with the embellishments. Like, when we venture off, yes. Well, she calls the embellishments outright lying. And I'm like, no. But I'm incapable of remembering the exact details of said story. So I give a clarification that this was based on a true story.

Because to her Robertson, it's more important that the story is either interesting or funny than accurate. Well, I don't, I'm trying to be accurate. I just don't remember the exact details. And for that part, for that part, I'll wear a shirt once a week to this podcast that says, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. And my dad said I should put on the back, but I doubt it. Which is funny. Clever.

I like it. It actually ended up the name of my book. It's the working title of the book. I'm not sure that's been approved, Phil. It's a working title. I find it hard to blow it. I believe you're going to name the book that. That's what they want to call.

Name it what? Name it what? They want to name it. I could be wrong. I like that. But I doubt it. But I doubt it. I doubt it.

But I doubt it. It's just about Jesus. I like it. Zach's dad put it together. Well, we were calling it. We've been calling it for several months while we're writing it, the Jesus resume, which is a good title. And it certainly is a Jesus resume, but there's been a ton of stuff. And we got that in there.

Yeah. We got his resume. The resume. The resume is in the, that's right. Since I came up with your title, the percentage. Oh, he's rubbing. We'll just take whatever percentage that is, take that off whatever you think I might owe you. Okay, I'm throwing in here.

I actually like that title. I do. I don't know about giving the judge. But I like that title. I was thinking about what the scripture where Paul is like saying, like, if we're wrong about this, then what does it really matter? But he's like, but I'm not wrong. That's exactly. The resurrection.

That's a good voice for that. The dead aren't raised. We didn't say we had it all. We had it all. We could be wrong. Yeah. But if we are. That's on the front of your shirt.

The back of your shirt said, I doubt it. Yeah, but you have to, we have to give that caveat because we're doing this four hours a week. So we do, I'm sure, you put out 700 episodes. I did the math there today. It's like 350 hours of content. So I'm sure there are, Jason's made a few errors along the way. and all of us have in the 350 hours. You can just say me.

Yeah, it's like the guy who said he's watching the episode. And he's like, what happened? You look like you zoned out. And I was like, I was taking a nap. I can sleep with my eyes. I just admitted it. I was tired. We do this so much.

I took a five minute nap. And he learned this skill in the school of preaching. I did. One particular professor's class in the afternoon, and Jace would be completely asleep. Every once in all you could hear him softly breathing, snoring, and with his eyes wide open. Yeah, my son, Reed, I actually tried to get me to teach him that skill.

But it just, you got to have the right, you got to have a laid back personality. I do not have that skill. Because your eyes are open, but you get the feeling that when you're sleepy. And if you just train yourself for hours, you can go to sleep. Do it? Awesome. Okay, I will say the one thing, the one thing I appreciated about the mask is because when I was on a plane, if you have a mask and you go to sleep in your mouth, so I'm like, no one can see it. Take a picture. Yeah, right. Really would take pictures of me sleeping on the plane and I'm like, that. Then the mask actually helped because I was like, well, you know, there was tons.

That was an advantage. There were a lot of advantage because I was in a grocery store one time and I was having some intestinal discomfort. And I thought, we all have mask on. I'm just letting it real. I'm going to be the first one to say, okay, now that we have mask on, I'm in for public display of whatever you want to call it. But it also proved that the mask weren't impervious, you know, to smell or coronavirus. Because I'm sure people were still picking it up. Let's take our first break.

Anyway, so welcome, Unashamed, Corey. Well, this went all three. But I was, so here's what I thought, of course. I've said this before, so I'm glad you're on here now. So you and Willie were the first in the family into the foray of podcasting. Y'all had one back when the show was on. I want to think it was on Fox. Willie did one with Fox.

Yeah, he did. But you were kind of co-hosted. And so, but you guys actually taught me when we first started telling me the importance of where you're going to go. Because Willie was just like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll just throw that thing together. And Willie told me recently we were talking about this because I was telling me, I said, Willie, I learned from you that unless you had a plan for content, you weren't going to be on for long. Because at first it was like, oh, we got plenty of stories.

We'll just tell stories and have guests. But then, like, after a while, Willie said, I just started to dread whatever day or Tuesday. Yes. It was like, it was looming on the horizon, like something I just dreaded doing, you know. Because after a while, I was like, what are we going to talk about? And so it, but it taught me when I observed that because we were on your podcast a couple of times or his podcast that you have to have like a deep well of content to be able to pull this off over a long period of time. Yeah. And he was just doing one a week.

Yeah. But we're doing, we're doing four a week. I was like, what are we going to do? And so that's what led us to doing the word because we're like, that's the deepest. The centerpiece is still the gospel. It is. No doubt. So I learned that from Willie and from you.

So I just wanted to. And you notice he hasn't done one. since. No, he has not. He's been reluctant to jump in again. Although he is talking about it. No, he has been talking about it lately. Oh, and he could definitely do it because last time he was only talked about his book. So I wanted you to talk about, we're going to talk about the movie at some point because you and Zach are doing some really cool stuff with that. But I wanted to talk about Sadie's podcast, and I know you've been guest hosting. So how has that been, speaking of a podcast? Yeah. Because she's got, she was the first award-winning podcast last year. I don't know that we

ever said that, that the award we won this year, she won the year before on the K-Level Awards, which was fantastic. So now we've had a back-to-back Robertson. Yeah, back-to-back. Yeah. And so when I was on the duck call room last week, Martin says, well, I mean, it's been two in a road. What do you think our chances are? And I said, well, it's kind of like the guy said on dumb and dumber, you know, one in a million. So you're telling me there's a, I mean, there's a chance. There is a Robertson on this podcast. Can we do it three times in a run? What do you think, Zad? Does the duck car room stand a chance of Impact Podcast in 24? You know what? That's a good question that put to the unashamed audience.

Can the duck car room rise to the level of what that's good with Sadie and unashamed with us guys? So, yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I'd do it for them, but I don't, you know, they'd let the people speak. Well, I would do. So I was on there and they asked that question. So, Corey, tell us about what that's like. And a little bit, because Sadie's podcast, what's her format? Does she do? Yes. Well, first of all, Sadie is why I'm guest hosting is Sadie's Home with a New Baby.

That's what I want to talk about that. Unashamed. What do you call it, Unashamed Nation? Unashamed Nation about that. Yeah, Sadie's home with her new baby. Honey is too, and now she has a little haven. That is. Is it going to be an H-th theme?

Well, she didn't mean to be an H-th theme, but it just kind of happened. And now, here we go. And there's some crazy stories around the name. She's about just a couple of weeks old, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she was born on our vacation. I went last night over there as soon as I got home and just held a little baby. She's so sweet.

It's been great. So, Sadie's home, totally maternity leave, and just taking time adjusting to being a mom of two. And Christian's awesome. They're a cute little family and very sweet little family, a great team. So I am guest hosting her podcast this summer, and I'm doing eight of them. And it's been really fun. Yeah, it's been a – I haven't hosted a – my own podcast before. So this has been fun to do, a little trial run to do eight of them this

summer while she takes some time off. And her podcast is like, she starts, actually, it was named well that's good because of something that I did. One time Sadie and I were doing a interview together, we were like on a stage. And you know how you have those mics that are like attached to you? Yeah. So you kind of forget that everything you say is being picked up. You know, it's not like the microphone you put to your face. It's attached. And so we're doing this like Q&A in front of a large crowd in a big stadium and they asked Sadie a question and she answered it and she kind of blew me away with her answer. You know how when your kids like say something that you're just like, whoa, that was good? And I said verbally, I thought, whoa, that's good. But I said verbally,

whoa, that's good into my microphone. And like the crowd kind of like awkwardly laughed because it was obvious that I didn't really mean to say that out loud. And the crowd kind of laughed. And so that was where we thought about, you know, we were talking about what's important. I have always wondered where that came from. That's where it came from. And so the idea behind it is that, you know, she gets good advice from so many people and so many people speak into her life. And that's been a great blessing from like our show. We've met amazing people who just get to speak into her life and give her great advice. And she was like, what if I made a podcast to where I could just bring people on that I know and love and that have spoken into my life in some way. And they could give good advice

to the listeners. So the first question is, what is the best piece of advice you've ever been given? So which all need to go on Sadie's podcast and give your best piece of advice. So it starts off with just a good piece of advice. And then it just kind of goes into whatever, you know, whatever God hits on the heart and plays from that. Yeah. Well, Sadie is, I've said before that what makes her so special is that there was obviously some sort of special anointing on her from a young age. there's a video of her standing on the coffee table.

I mean, just getting after it. How was she in that video? She was Bob in that video. She's got her little lisp, you know, but it's so cute. But then it's like- She was sharing the word. She was sharing the word of God and the gospel. And I mean, she laid the whole thing.

Her theology was actually pretty good at Bob. It was impressive. Yeah, I noticed that. It was impressive. So you through the years at different parts of her life, you guys have played that. And it's very inspiring to us because we've had the opportunity to watch her grow up. But then what I always like is that she was obviously very popular on the Little Duck Show.

But then she was the first one of us to sort of take everything into then another genre when she was on Dancing with Stars. And to me, it just brought even more to light. I mean, the things they talked about her, you know, about she was able to talk about modesty and family and all these great themes on the show. So it was like God was using her to then just like go to that next level. And now what I love about it is she now has her own family. And so these same people that were, I'm assuming probably her peers and less younger, now she's bringing them into that world to show them what a godly wife looks like, what a godly mom looks like.

And so to watch somebody just go through those processes and steps is a really cool thing. I mean, so I think about her audience having a chance to do that with her and do it because she's so God-centered. It's such a gift, you know. has been really need to see how people who follow her, like initially, she said this recently to me. She said initially people would come up and be like, oh, I knew you from Dick Dynasty, and then it was Nancy with the Stars. It's like, oh, I knew from Nets with the Stars. But now it's really her podcast and the impact that she is making through a podcast, that's been really cool.

Well, Willie tells about how he used to be, you know, growing up, he was always Phil's son. I don't know if he's ever told you this Phil. But he said, growing up, he was always known as like Phil's son, oh, we want to Phil's boys. He said, and just when he thought, okay, I finally made a name for myself. I'm going to be, you know, my own person. Now he's Sadie's dad. That's funny. That's true, though. It's a really good compliment. It's a great compliment. There's nothing better to hear people talk about your kids. It's a great compliment. And yeah, Sadie's just doing awesome things with that. It's, it's awesome. Our kids are all adults now and just to see what God's done in their life and the ways the little things that he put in them when they were little

kids and what he did seem like it was about this long it was that fast it was I know well that's strange you bring that up because we missy was on the last podcast and we had these 40 camp counselors and all they did worship night at our house and so miss and I were both blown away because we they they mea does worship nights over there all the time but it's usually four or five or six people and uh the 40 is what was so incredible but I told Missy and Mia, after it was over, I was like, man, that was, you know, that was incredible. And I said, you know what was weird is that there were 40 people in my house. I didn't take one picture.

It's usually when that many people, even if it's teenagers and they're there, I mean, they're like, can we have? So unless you want to get picked. Yeah. And Mia was like, well, they came here because you're my dad. It was like, it was the same phraseology. It was like, good point. Yeah. But I said, I was just pointing it out.

It was awesome. It was a spiritual thing, you know. I like that. Let's take another break. Yeah, and we talked about it, Corey, and with that segment with Missy, I was explained to the audience, I think in our overtime, about Camp Chioca and the impact it's had. And I said that that was your family and your grandfather started it now, almost 60 years ago. Yeah. Or over 60.

Yeah, over 60. It's almost 70. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, just think about that. Anything that's around 70 years. Yeah.

And yet generationally, how. it's still blessing people. And now John Luke and went to school to be able to be able to do that as a part of that and your mom is still a part of it. I was actually out there this morning

helping with the crafts before I came here. That takes you back to the old days, right? And now Bella's helping with the crafts so to see that generational and has been, yeah, it's really special. So I mention it again since we have Corey on

this, Campsioka.com is where you want to go. If you want to check that out, if you never tried a Christian camping, There's also a sportsman's camp that's there. I'm not sure where they are this year in terms of that, but any future summer, it's a great opportunity for your kids to be around really godly, great young people to just get closer to God. And we mentioned how it just isolates from the world for just a week.

Yeah. And just what the happen? No TV, no entertainment, just really actually time with people. And you met Willie at camp. I did. You know, which is kind of part of your story, which is pretty amazing. What do you do with the cell phones? You put them in a box.

Put them in a box. Turn them in. They have to turn them in. I just won't. My parents met at Camp Chiaoka. So I wouldn't be here. Oh, yours too, is that? That's where Willie and I met.

Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. What were you going to say about me out there? So do you remember the year that y'all were there? Like, I was like fourth grade, Willie's fifth grade. It was like our first year there. First year there.

Yeah. Yeah, I loved it. Yes. Absolutely. That's when Willie asked me on the Moonlight hike, and I said yes. Here you are. Ever since. We're like to say we got married the next year, but it wasn't quite that early.

I remember doing some top five, like, memories as kids, and one of them I put was my experiences at camp, because, you know, they were clarity with the Lord. This would have been mid-80s or so, I guess, because y'all were still, or early 80s. Eight. So, yeah. Early 80s. Right. So it's really interesting because Corey and Missy and Willie and Jay's were all in the same youth group at Ways Ferry Road later after the camp. And then, you know, when we came back to WFR.

And so it was all these relationships budded as a result. And, of course, there were others. And I don't know. Was there ever, you two never dated, did you? I mean, or liked each other? We'll never tell. We'll never tell. I mean, I didn't want to bring up anything awkward.

I just thought I remembered something. It was turbulent time. I do remember this. I really did date all my friends too. I was, you know, being with that group, because we came from the little country church where I thought that I was going to have to marry the one person that was one girl when we were meeting out in the woods here. It was like two or three years younger than me.

Are you saying the pickings were slim? I had one option. And so we all fault, Willie and I. One way out. Yeah, over this. He's going to have to fight for it. One girl. And nobody was really that attraction.

We're here when we run out of women. There was no attraction, but Willie and I fought because it was like, it's the only option. But I do remember that. So when we got up to White's Ferry and, you know, here's all these. Now, it was like 100. And it really helped my faith because I didn't feel so alone. And I thought, we have multiple options. And so the adrenaline from that, I remember, I don't know if you married this, Corey, but one night we were at y'all's house. And I just, Kellett, he was the youth director and he had given some speech, you know, but I was just like,

I thought he should take it deeper. You know. You know, so I just kind of said, I want to say something. And I really, I get a word. Yeah, I just gave a speech. And I was like, look, I think we should be more aggressive at our schools about our faith and sharing Jesus. And we shouldn't always be trying to shrink back, you know, and just survive. I said, I kind of want to take it to them. I was like, if anybody wants to join me, I'll meet you.

Y'all had a little basketball go. Of course, there's almost 100 kids in there. And there was about eight or ten that met out there. And you were one of those that came out there. And we talked about how to, you know, not be embarrassed that we were following Jesus. So I just remember that. It was, and look, really from that little group, we started bringing our friends to the Lord. Yeah.

Our youth group, it was, it was thriving. It was pretty special. It was. It was. And really, when Jason really came into it. So how long did it take to introduce? this woman right here to Willie. I mean, I think it just, what my point is,

I remember the spiritual aspects of the group and the group got larger and larger. And really and I. Beyond who's going to date who, check easy. Yeah, it really wasn't. I mean, we all had our little love flings and all. But to be honest, even Missy and I, we were just kind of friends in the Lord.

And it just blossomed. I noticed that both the parents, of Sadie and the parents of your woman, I noticed that both groups, their mom and dad said, get away from that book. No, that is not. That's how the stories change.

That's not how it happened. Straighten this out. That's how the story is changed. You're looking at a couple of rednecks or what do for a living. Well, they don't know. This is how the story is going. I think they were happy and proud.

It was the timing. It was too early for the marriage. Sometimes humble beginnings leads to other things. I think maybe you took it as a fence more than we did. I mean, look, in the moment, I was not really not. I was not happy when Missy's dad was like, no. I mean, I wasn't happy. And I don't think Willie was very happy.

Yes, no. I remember saying this. I think that was the first time that y'all showed up at our house. kind of unannounced because your parents had just said, why don't y'all wait? Yeah. Because you knew that we had had a similar experience. And so we basically sat. Y'all helped walk us through it.

So I was 17. So I think it was more about the fact that I was 17. And I was like, when I went to my parents to say I was getting married, I was 17 years old, I was going to not go to the college that they had gone to, that I had a scholarship to. My whole life I was going to change. What was their first response to that? No. No, that's not a good idea.

Oh, hey, I don't blame them. Let me just say if I would be the same way. You got a daughter now. Yeah, I would. If she came at 17, I would shut that day. I mean, I would do everything. They were more gracious than I probably would have been. So I don't blame them for.

That's young. Well, see, Missy was 17 when we did this. But I didn't mean tomorrow. Yeah. I just said, we want to be engaged and it will be. Well, Willie met tomorrow. Willie went tomorrow. Willie was ready.

We didn't. Yeah, yeah. They were like, wait a couple of years, then we'll talk about it. But the good news is, if you look at it now, you say, parents and all, you're like, yeah, you have to admit, that kind of worked up pretty good. So how old were you all when you got married? 18. I turned 18 in October, got married in January, yes.

And I will say on the way to the wedding, Willie rode with dad, my dad, on the way of the wedding, and he said to him, You know, I said what I said. She's my first daughter, my oldest. You know, I did what I thought was right. But I'm telling you, I'll support you no matter what. And they have. Well, let's take another break.

So Willie, when Willie tells the story, he tells a version of this on stage with embellishments. And he says his ending is, now he's one of my best employees. Yeah. That's how he likes to end it, which is the robbersome way. Your Bible speaking daughter came out of that relationship. Came out of that. That's right. That's right. Yep. And go back to the youth group days.

I remember. So I will say when Jason Willie first came to the youth group, all the girls were like, oh, we got the new Q boys in the youth group. But more than that, it became a real, like it was, we were just growing and everyone was really spiritual on fire. And the friendships and relationships were that were really special. Well, and I haven't even thought what came out of that, Corey, because for the first few years, I mean, Lisa and I worked close. at first with Jason and Missy. You guys were at Harding and beginning your life together. And we worked with Jason and Missy, me and Jay's coming out of school together.

But we had house churches and discipleship. So when you guys moved back, then we started working with you guys because you both worked for the church at a different periods of time. You were our first children's minister. We ever had a WFR. You had a Mother's Day Out program. You had all this stuff that you innovated for our church. I mean, a Willie worked with kids, with colleges.

age and with youth at different times. So all of us, what we're doing now, I'm trying to impact the world. I mean, it started by us working together. Here's a family with our forever family. Yeah. So I love that all that was birthed out of that. And even Zach, who came in first as a bit of a prodigal, but then later returned as he and Jill as again part of that narrative of us to administer together.

Now we get to do all of this, which is incredible. So, I mean, I cherish the time we spent together working. Absolutely. Yeah. and sort of establishing our family. So in that vein, I want to talk about the movie, because obviously we've been mentioned that, some of the first time we've had you own,

that, I mean, you basically, you and Willie started a company to try to produce more godly content across all the spectrum. I mean, I kind of think about you guys like the DIY people, or the ones from Waco. But, you know, yeah, Chiv and Joanna. The idea that, you know, God built something and gave us this amazing ability,

and so you've continued that. So talk a little bit about the movie, kind of what's going on with that. Zach, you can speak to this as well. And then other things you guys are doing, because it's a lot of cool stuff. Well, first, the why behind it. And I think I always tell people what I think really happened for us

when we did Duck Dynasty because we did go into it very prayerfully and wanting to make an impact for the kingdom with it and wanting to point people to Jesus through it. I always say the first, whenever we first did the show on Outdoor Channel, I think it was more about, oh, we could sell more duck calls.

we have a TV show, it would be great. And then whenever we got this call from Hollywood, it was like, oh, this could really make an impact for the kingdom of God. You know, how can we actually just shine a spotlight on him through this? But then as the show went on and as people came up to us and just told us the impact it had on their life, I think my eyes were even open more to the impact of entertainment and how it's shaping us one way or the other. And the way that's shaping us in the other way just became more evident to me,

the things that we're consuming and what we're, you know, putting out there is for the evil one is powerful and it's affecting us. And so we need more, we need more Christians in the space. And also I felt like I kind of, it was revealed to me too, how many Christians are scared to be in this space of like entertainment because they're like, oh, that's like the dark side or whatever. And so people shy away from it where, you know, I feel like we're called to be the light in the world. We're called to be the light in the darkness, the salt. And, you know, we have the spirit of God in us. So we need to be going into. And so we need to be going into those spaces rather than retreating from them.

And so it was that, you know, after the show was over, it's like, okay, how can we do that more? And I did go around and kind of had this conversation with a lot of different production companies and things like that and just realize, okay, the values just have to be aligned. And so set on it for a year or two after the show ended. And then Zach came to us. So, Zach, you can pick up the story here as far as Tread Lively and what we decided to do with it. Yeah, I just basically pitched kind of the same vision to them what I was trying to do. The only problem is I had no experience doing it.

And so they were like, you know, we have all these companies in L.A. that we've toured with that have all these great resumes and you don't have a resume. But for some reason, we feel compelled to partner with you on it. So we started our company. Well, it kind of started out with us doing this show. But this is all that I had ever done, really, was just the stuff with Phil with restoration. productions. And then, so that's really what all I brought to the table was the experience in that.

But when we started Tread Lively, we went out to Willie and Corey's farmhouse and, and had Jeremy Lowe come in and lead us in worship. And we just worship for and prayed for a couple hours before we even got into the discussion about what we wanted to do. And, yeah, one of the first projects, maybe the first project we talked about was, was the blind and Phil and Kay's, the Robertson family, origin story. So, you know, now here we are a few years later and we've had, you know, a lot of, a lot of success so far, but kind of excited about this project because it really was

the, the catalyst for everything that we, you know, we're going to hopefully do. But this story is here. It's out. It's a fact by the time this podcast airs, you can actually purchase tickets, early ticket sales are open. You go to the blindmovie.com and get them, but, uh, which we would highly encourage you because the, yeah. Oh, yeah, they're out. And the more we sell early, the good thing about that is, is that if we can sell a bunch of tickets early, they're going to open up more theaters for us and more screening. So it's really pivotal.

If you guys are planning on going to watch this film when it opens on September 28th, I know it's a long way off, but go buy your tickets now because that will, I mean, like kind of what they did with the Chosin, what Dallas said, you know, vote with your dollars. You know, when you purchase a ticket now, it really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really matters for the success of this film. So I can't urge our audience enough to go, please go purchase a ticket today. At theblinemovie.com, they'll have a link there where you can get them. So let's take our last break.

Yeah, and, you know, some people are calling it a parallel economy, the idea, which is not exactly true, but the idea is that we want to try to support things that are sort of counterculture, and that's what this is. I mean, these are entertaining films. And this is, and we've talked about the film. I mean, it's a, it's a gritty look and a real life look, you know, at mom and dad's life that then was our life. But then what God has done since is what we all know. And so you want that to be high quality, which it is.

And so I thought Dallas made a great comment at the K-Level Awards that, you know, every project that was in film and television that they won, chosen one. But he said every one of these are high-quality projects. Yeah. And he said, and praise the Lord, that there are so many multiple things out there that are not only give an honor to God and helping people see the way and the light, but that they're done well. Yeah. And so I think that's important. Yeah. And this film really is, it's a powerful presentation of the gospel through our family's story.

And it's just that redemption and forgiveness and grace and all the things that is offered to everyone that just in a story form, you know, through our family's story. And I love that also for us, this would be our first project. Zach's mom, Phil's sister, Aunt Jan, was so integral in this story because she believed. And Phil, she knew that God had something on his life. She saw that in him. She never gave up on him. And that's just that message that like, don't ever give up on anybody because God can and will do miraculous things through people's life when he comes into their life and rescues them. And that's what this movie's about.

And it is important for you to people to show. up because, you know, we can complain all we want about, oh, there's no good entertainment out there and there's no this or whatever. But if we don't, whenever good entertainment comes and is available and we don't show up and buy the ticket, then we're not, what are we saying to the world? That's right. Yeah, we'd rather send our money to Disney or some other place, right? And so, yeah, it's, it's, so what you guys are doing is great. You also did, Willie, when he was on here, mentioned a musical that you guys did. Tell us a little bit about that, because that's still going on. That's in Dallas right now.

Yeah, we are so excited about that. This was a crazy story. I don't know what I'll really told when he was here, but a 16-year-old girl. She was a young girl. I remember that. Yes. And she saw or heard the musical Hamilton, and was just a very popular musical. I'm sure all of you've seen it, Phil.

I'm sure. You place out when you went to New England. Hamilton. I'm glad you're talking about this because the last trip I went on, people were asking me about the musical. And I was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you sure that's legit? You got to come see it. I cannot wait for you to see it.

We were all on vacation when it started, but I want to, next time in Dallas. And the cool thing is, so what we've started, we started this weekend. So after the musical, so, well, the whole story of the musical is just miraculous. And it's in this big tent that we put it in this big tent in Dallas, Texas. And so after the musical this last weekend, we invited churches to come in and just do worship nights, prayer and worship. And I mean, it was powerful. Like the musical happened. The musical's incredible.

excellent, and it's the story of Jesus. It's the story of Jesus. I know y'all been in Luke. I was reading Luke today, and I was like, well, this is, every one of these stories is in the musical. Like, you see it played out visually on the stage and all the ways, it's the gospels on the stage. And then we've had these nights where we just said,

come in, we're going to keep the tent open. If you want to come in here and pray and worship, and we had to literally like turn the lights on and say, unplug, be like, all right, we got to go for the night. It's midnight, you know. We just praise in worship until midnight in that tent every night this past week. And it's really powerful. Yeah.

So how do people get that if they want to? Yeah, his story the musical.com is where you can go back and get tickets. And yeah, that's another one. We need people to show up. This is like eight times a week the story of Jesus. The gospel is being presented and musical formed in Dallas, Texas, in a big tent. So we need people to show up and say, like, this is important to us. We want to show Jesus in whatever art form we can show him.

And it's the exact same story. It's the story. It's the same story that was told, you know, right here in the word, but put in just a musical form. And it's just beautiful. And the girl who wrote it was clearly inspired by God. Her mom was with her mom this past weekend. She was like, I know it's God because Anna couldn't have done that. She said she was, she's dyslexic.

She couldn't read until she was nine. She literally learned four chords on the piano to write this musical. and she says, she says, I told God, I can't do this. So if you want me to do it, you have to give me the words. And he did. And it's just, it's really incredible. Amazing. Yeah.

That's pretty awesome. So yeah, check that out. And I'm sure there'll be more things coming down the pike. So be looking for that. So I want to introduce this thought in our last couple of minutes because, Corey, we have an overtime segments. We want to hold Joe for a few extra minutes for those of us that follow us on overtime. But you mentioned Luke.

And so we're in Luke. chapter six is where we are. And so I want to read this text, and we'll try to work on it just a little bit in our overtime or probably the next podcast. But we're in this context where Jesus is beginning to be questioned about who he is. I mean, it didn't take long before we get into this thing. And all of a sudden you start getting the criticisms, you know, start to happen. Well, one of the questions was when he called Levi, and then all of a sudden they had a banquet

or a party. and they're like, what is he doing eating and drinking with tax collectors and sinners? I thought about this earlier when, even when you were talking about Sadie. It's because I remember people back in the day, they're like, I mean, your niece is going to be on dancing with the star. I mean, but you saw that became a platform. We can't dance. We're Christians. With the dancers.

She's dancing with the dancer. And I don't say a difference in this. He's eating with tax collectors. She's dancing with dancers. and it became something that was used for a greater good. It was just a, she was a bright light. Yeah. Not that it was even that dark, maybe to other people it was,

but I mean, she was a bright light to me because she just showed this effervescent quality that God had put in her in that moment. And you're right, it was so much this text. Interesting, because so many of the judges said things like that. They're like, you had this light about you. We don't really know what it is, but it's something.

And we're like, yeah, we know. It's the spirit. That's right. So I was just going to throw that in. I mean, then they had the, you know, the fasting question, but it was, and I think that was actually a legitimate question that Jesus just used because it was hard to realize that God has become a man. And he was trying to reveal that.

He's like, well, they're not fasting because they're with the bridegroom and they're looking around, which is what they should have said, well, who's the bridegroom? You know, but they were just, it was, they were blown away because they had their own sect as they're referred to in verse 30 of chapter 5. So let me read this first part of chapter 6 and then we'll talk a little bit about it, get your take on it, Corey, in overtime. So after this, what Jace just described in Jesus' answer back was this idea about new wine in old wine skins and the idea that he was bringing something new and different. But it was going to be hard for them to accept that. And so then there's another example we get to chapter six. He says one Sabbath, verse one, Jesus was going through the grain fields, and his disciples

began to pick some heads of grain, rub them into their hands, and eat the kernels. So, you know, this is a snack, this is what we're talking about, but it happened to be on the Sabbath. Some of the Pharisees asked, why are you doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath? Jesus answered them, have you never read what David did when he and his comparison? were hungry, he entered the house of God and taking the consecrated bread, he ate what is lawful only for priests to eat, and he also gave some to his companions. Then Jesus said to them, the son of man is Lord of the Sabbath. But, and then he also, we can just set up the next story, because then he tells another story of a guy having a shriveled hand, and he's healed on the Sabbath. Yeah. And the reason I'm bringing that up is because, I mean, when you think about what the Sabbath was attended to do, it was God's idea. It was a great thing.

You work six days and you rest one. And that's just good social etiquette for anybody involved. If you just keep working and working and working, nothing good is going to happen. But the reason I'm bringing up this is I think you see the undertone of what Jesus is saying is because what was the result of the Sabbath? It's to restore. It's to replenish. So here you have a guy who can't work with that hand and Jesus is going to heal him, which should be awesome.

People are like, you can do that. And it was a principle that Jesus was trying to bring up that there's a greater good involved here. It's not what you think. Because in their life, they had 39 activities that they had amended that you couldn't do on the Sabbath. and one of them was taking off kernels. So you really, you see religion versus what Jesus is bringing here. And really what's behind it. So we want to talk about a little bit more about that in overtime.

So if you want to follow us over, we're going to hold Corey over at blazedtv.com slash unashamed is where you can get our overtime comment. So thank you again, Corey, for coming on our regular Unashamed podcast. You're always welcome. It's been fun. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Awesome. We'll see you all the time.

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