Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 720 | Phil Robertson's Answer to Cocaine in the White House & Jase's Dog Is Rescued by Facebook

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

Phil and Jase’s interpretation of scripture reveals their thoughts about the cocaine found in the White House. Al recalls a few times he got it totally wrong when he waded into politics, and Jase’s dog has lost his mind over something he can’t even have. The guys discuss the human problems of expectation versus reality, while Phil urges people to be diligent in training themselves to obey the Lord. Plus, why did Jesus speak in parables? In this episode: Luke 8, verses 1-18; Isaiah 35, verse 6; Isaiah 61, verse 3; Proverbs 7 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome to Unashamed. Zach's off being a movie mogul, so he's not with us today. But don't you have to have more than one movie involvement to be a movie mogul? Well, in our circle, one is enough because none of us have ever done it before. So it makes you a movie mogul. Well, I'm just saying, it's like you look up after a few years and you're like, Okay, you did that.

Now, what exactly have you worked on? You're like, I got one movie. It's really good. It's kind of like a lifetime achievement award movie style. Actually, I think he's actually working on another film idea. I've just heard it through the grave. I'm not in that circle, so I don't hear everything and let's use this done. But I think they're actually working on another project.

So once it gets two, Jay, it says, was two qualify as a mogul? I don't know. I'm reading the definition of mogul right now. An important or powerful person, especially in the motion picture or media industry. So it doesn't give a number. So you could just do, it could be a one-hit wonder. Yeah, one-hit wonder. You could be a mogul.

So recently we had, we celebrated the 4th of July. And typically, I think we read it on the podcast. Wasn't it you that read John Adams about the illuminations and guns and all the things? No, that was me. That was my lesson. Oh, right. But we talked about it here. No, I did a speech at the faith.

I didn't have heard that recently, but I couldn't remember. What would we call that day? Faith Family Freedom. Yeah, Faith Family Freedom. I'm not as I said before we got started. I've realized that I can't function properly when my wife and I are not together. Yeah. And she was,

she's being the good grandma. She hasn't left you. You mean just together temporary. Well, she went, uh, to Nashville visiting our kids and, you know, we have two young grandchildren and she's helping. Yep. You know, her,

our son and daughter. Because, I mean, when you have, if you have one baby, that's a handful. You have two? Real close together. Yeah, you need.

And your daughter-in-law is the nurse. So I guess she's back to work. They probably need that, right? I mean, yeah, so I left my Bible yesterday, my notebooks, which you found, and I'm appreciative for somebody on their staff. Yeah, the church found it. So you're back to the old Tor up one today? Well, I was really praying. Does it have Luke?

Yeah, I was praying for Luke to still be attached. Good news. Good news we have Luke. He may not be able to venture too far away from Luke, but we got Luke in the house. I had all these notes. everything they're gone and so yeah it's been it's been tough and my dog has gone crazy and it's been frustrating so you know you get a you have a routine i mean feel you have your routines you do every day and so i let this dog out three times a day like clockwork because in the off season you know

we're all getting ready for duck season but part of that is the dog they rest you and They rest for nine months. Yep, and then they work hard. And then they work. And so he's resting. And so this is basically just keeping him from destroying any of my property. He's in a big, nice, luxurious pen. But he gets out three times a day.

What could go wrong? Well, I let him out. He does the same thing. He takes off running wide open. He does his business. He turns. He comes back to the pen. I feed him.

Well, I let him out, and he took off running like he was fixed to do his business, and he just went out of sight. And I was like, hey, hey, oh, long story short, nine hours later, and now it's nighttime, because he responds to a whistle. I'm way away from my house, because someone on the social media apparatus, they have a neighborhood. Yeah, neighborhood Facebook.

Yeah, they have neighborhood. So somebody put on there a picture of my dog saying, does anybody know whose dog this is? But it was still hard to get the information. Well, where is this? Yeah. But I just took off thinking, well, how big is the neighborhood? So I'm blowing this whistle, waking anybody up.

If you heard that, Al, that was me. I never heard the downside to city living. You never heard the downside or the upside? You're giving me the downside. Oh, yeah. Subdivision living. Oh, you know what it was? It was a Proverbs 7 analogy.

because about a mile away, there was my neighbor, who I don't know, had some dogs in a kennel. And one of the females, it was in heat. Yep, it was in heat. My dog from a mile away, risked life and limb, traveling through roads, dodging traffic.

And so I was blowing that whistle, and I was so far away that I thought this dog, nowhere around here. And then I just was stopped at a stop sign, kind of wondering, well, that that's it. And here come my dog just running down the middle of the street. And so at that time, I didn't know it was an attraction with this dog. So you would think, you know, I got him in the pen, fed him. It's like, whoa, what a crazy adventure. Then the next night, guess what? I mean, the next day, same thing.

Yep. I mean, soon as he, but this time, it was only a couple hours later because I just went right up there because I heard those dogs barking in that kennel. And sure enough, look, it was like I was hunting. I looked up, here he come, right down the middle of the road, just wide open. And I said.

And the dog owner has probably experienced that because I'm sure every male dog is coming to his house. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's realizing. I'm looking at Proverbs 7. Yeah, I was going to read that, but it's probably better from your Bible because I'm even sure I have Proverbs.

So is this the one, say to Wisdom, you are my sister, and call understanding your kinsman. Yeah. It will keep you from the adulteress, from the wayward wife with her seductive words. Yes. So it's all about, Proverbs 7 is all about wisdom.

Better a dog than you. Jesus. So it gives us this illish. With her persuasive words, she led him astray. And then it's like an ox going to the slaughter, like a deer. Stepping in the noose. Yeah, right before an arrow pierces his liver. I mean, it's a very graphic.

It goes on to say, her highway is a highway to hell. I mean, there's a rock song. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It came from Proverbs chapter 7. Leading down to the chambers of death. And so I'm watching this dog. Because if you're a dog and you're crossing all these streets wide open with one thing on your mind, death is near.

Oh, it's near. So I got to break it. I got to break it up. I'm glad I'm at the end of the road behind the gate, but I don't see that much. Well, right. So that's what I've been doing the last two days. But back in the day, even you out here in the middle of nowhere, had to deal with it because the former Bobo, when he would, you know, take off up the street, he would get whipped by every dog or maybe he was whipping dogs.

I don't know, but he'd come back kind of beat up. I mean, he had been through the ringer. Dog owners, they go through a lot. They do. Oh, I just, I was like, when I finally got him back, I was like, and for what? A dog that you can't have? She's in a kennel. She's pinned up.

So, oh, frustrated. Well, the reason I started out with the Fourth of July, I don't know you were going to tell that story, was because our dolls, we have three now. And, you know, one of them, especially just, she's not very smart. Well, neither is this one. Right. She's just not, she doesn't have a lot going on upstairs.

But she, the worst thing about her, I mean, you know, she's sweet, the kids love her. but she she has an aversion to any thunder or fireworks. When I say an aversion, I'm talking about she will tear anything apart around her to get in or out of whatever she's, you know, she tries to get in the house. But she is torn off screens. You already see, and the doorpost inside the little area they try to keep her in, I mean, she's chewed it and tore it up. It just looks like...

Because around here, which I don't... Most people say, well, that's... What would that have to do with the 4th of July? But around here, people... They're doing fireworks the day before July 4th. All day. Whatever that period is, they can do it legally. That's what they're doing.

Beginning... Wow. On July 4th, it was nonstop. That's what... We weren't here, but Jay says she was... went nuts. They never stopped going off into the night. And then the next day, I guess, they're selling all the fireworks at half price now.

Because I actually looked it up the ordinance. You can pop them up until a week after holiday. Yeah, you're bringing up law. Al, they, there's no law because I'm in the middle of the night. I was looking for that dog, and they were fireworks going off at least every five minutes. We hear it, but it's long range. Yeah. We hear that.

Of course, you may be hearing gunfire. Well, no, if you don't. Sometimes, a lot of times, just gunfire the other time. It's just, I think it's firework. It sounds like it. Phil famously said, you know, you don't call the law where I'm at. I am the law. By the time they get here, whatever happened.

You need to already dealt with it. They're either dead or it's been settled. It's the same with the fire department because we've had it happen before. By the time they get out here, whatever caught on fire is burned. Yeah, it's over. Anybody who enters my yard to my house, my dogs are trained. Go out there and find out who that is. Yeah.

And I know people are going to send in things about me bringing this up about the dog because all dogs have issues. We've tried the vest. They've got the secure, I mean, the, like the warm blanket you wrap around the dogs. Suppose that helps them with these high attention. We tried medicines. Nothing works. So I don't know. I'm sure someone will have some solution.

But we tried all the things that are offered for dogs that just can't take. Maybe the dogs should be transferred to a less combustible air. It needs to be in a very quiet environment. That's it. Maybe I need to sit it out here, Dad. All your stuff is off in the long, booming distances. Tough to live in the subdivision, in my opinion. Well, especially if you got an a version of noise, like Jay said, it's a noisy place.

Right. All right, so we've been studying the book of Luke. Jay, we're going to depend on your memories today since you have no notes. Luckily, I have my notes. It's Luke chapter 8, I'm telling you. Before we get to 8, though, I want to do a little bit of a, because there are a couple of verses I wanted to read in our last discussion I didn't get to, I want to catch us up in where we've been.

I want to do that before we jump into the parable of the sewer. In Luke 7, we talked about these people that Jesus was interacting with, the undesirables is what I call them. But they were just people who had, you know, normal life issues. And Jesus was unafraid, you know, to deal with them. And one of them, the last one, of course, was the woman, the sinful woman, who we had assumed was the kind of, of the town prostitute.

It seems that way based on what happened. There was also a centurium and then also a widow who had lost his son. But in that section, the last thing we talked about was John the Baptist. And I got to think about Jason, per our discussion, it really fits the theme. Because at first it, it feels like an outlier in that text. But when you think about it, he's really saying that the way he was treated, Jesus and John the baddest, they were kind of the undesirables, too. Well, yeah.

Because they are the outcast, you know, so the reason they were open to these other people is because they were also rejected. You said, what am I going to do with this generation? They won't listen, you know, they reject. That's why I brought up that. That's why I thought about that, the story of both my dog as it relates to Proverbs 7. You know, Proverbs, really those first seven chapters all about having understanding and guarding your heart and,

what's the famous verse in Proverbs was it 3, 4 or 4 3? I think it's 3. I mean, not on your own understanding. Yeah, 3, 4. I mean, we tell that story, but we see that play out in the real life. You know, his illustration from guarding yourself and using a story like that, it's just not wise. If you're pursuing something that's going to cost you other relationships or perhaps your life,

it's just not wise. And so when he said that about, you know, the son of man came eating and drinking and you say, here's a glutton and a drunkard. You know, and John the Baptist, he kind of had the religious credibility, but he lived in the wilderness. eight bugs. So I wanted to read these two passages that I didn't get to, Jays, because I think it sets up perfectly where we're headed next.

And these are both out of Isaiah, and they were prophecies, but listen to it in context of Jesus talking about him and John the Baptist. First one is Isaiah 35, 3. Strengthen the feeble hands, steady the knees that give way, say to those with fearful hearts, Be strong, do not fear. Your God will come. He will come with vengeance and with divine retribution. He will come to save you.

Then the eyes of the blind will be open and the ears of the death unstopped. Then the lame will leap like a deer and the mute tongue shout for joy. Water will gush forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert. So it's obviously a pointing towards Jesus coming, right? But also John the Baptist. And then this was the other one, Isaiah 61, verse one, The Spirit of the sovereign Lord is on me because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. Remember that was the word Jesus used, the phrase Jesus used.

He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives, and release from darkness for the prisoners, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor and the day of vengeance of our God to comfort all who mourn, provide for, those who grieve in Zion to bestow on them a crown of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of joy instead of mourning, and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair. They will be called oaks of righteousness, a planting of the Lord for the display of his splendor. I mentioned this before, but all of these texts and all of the blessed or the poor, for yours is the kingdom, blessed of you who hunger now you'll be satisfied best of the ones who weep now for your life

blessed of those who hate you blessed are them exclude you insults you reject your name he's talking about the culture that these people were in which haven't which hasn't changed enough to doodly squat yeah it's the same culture with human beings same mindset same mindset problems same sins the whole thing is He's talking about how you deal with it. Because if they get under your skin and you start sinning like they are and lash back out at them instead of just smiling and moving on, well, you know, you're looking at it from the prism of I'm safe in my position in Christ. Right.

And I'm a member of the kingdom of God for crying out loud. I mean, he's come, you know, told me to go out and make disciples. So you can't go out and make disciples and be mean to people, and you're going to cost you a little bit. Some of them will rip you off. They'll lie to you, and you'll say, well, I tried to help them, but they just. So all kinds of people, but it's a description, each one, all these texts, it's a description of what the kingdom looks like.

So we, you're right. Without it, just think about what this place would look like without that. I mean, it's bad enough. And we all preach Jesus, him cruciified and raised from the dead. And they're all, nah-saysayers. But you just think about it. If there was no Jesus, no message of hope to live beyond the grave, just what you would have there.

You'd have nothing. So he's trying to say, look, you've got it. Just hold on to it. So to your point, Isaiah wrote those words 700 years before. Jesus is saying his words, and that's 2,000 years before us saying our words. And we're still on the same train. And they still matter. That's exactly right.

And I think about that in verse 23, Jason, chapter 7, whenever Jesus said, blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me. You know, he was made, and we obviously know he was talking about John the Baptist. There's a lot of hurdles, a lot of hurdles. Right. So it's a reminder of encouragement to me. A lot of people don't say it. They all say, well, go down here,

and we've got a ministry that you can work. But training yourself with the help of God is really, you have to have it. You have to have the training you training of yourself, whether he's going to do it or they're going to do it or we're going to form a group that's going to call it this and that and the other we tend to, and, you know, one's the first. serves all. But actually self-training is what I keep reading about here. You know,

blessed are you when they hate you, when they exclude you, they insults you, they reject your name as evil because of me. That's self-training. No one can, if you say, well, I'll go to some people that it's good to get together and all that, but we each have the obligation and the parameters are saying, train yourself to fulfill these texts. You'll have a lot better life. Well, most that can be done by living it, that's right. You bet.

Well, I'm glad you brought up John Baptist. Because, you know, we kind of talked about how it's even possible for him to doubt since he was part of this scheme or redemption and he was being used in a positive way as the forerunner of Jesus. God we forget, Jason. He was only human.

Well, he is. But I do want to make the point that when it gets to where we're at now with this Luke 8, there's something about how you listen and how you hear and being wise and what understanding and discernment and searching these kind of qualities that after you read the parable of the sewer, it really kind of scares you. that he starts talking about how people are going to view this and receive it. And if you're on the wrong end of it, it just, it's not a happy ending. Yeah.

It's like my dog, if he keeps going across those streets in pursuit of something that he's not going to experience. It's just a venture that it's not going to end well. Yeah, it's futile. And so I thought about that. You know, in the negative, yes, he was having doubts because his narrative of Jesus, was not happening. And I think that's going to be a real clue to unpacking the parable of the sower is that you don't want to have a vision of Jesus that is wrong.

And you think it's right. So John the Baptist was thinking, you know, he's going to crush all these other kingdoms. and we're going to live heavily happily ever after. But then he winds up in prison. But to the positive, he did say, well, are you the one? I mean, he had enough courage in that statement to realize his weakness thinking, I must either, I'm misunderstanding. Something has happened that I can't figure out.

And he was just point blank asking him. He needed affirmations. You get to chapter 8, which we're fixed to go into from 5, 6, and 7, you know. He talks about sins being forgiven of a woman. And then your faith has saved you about faith, go in peace. Then the soul parable of the sword, he traveled about the town, village to village. It says proclaiming the good news, gospel of this. the kingdom of God.

The 12 were with him and also. So it comes back right to what I've been trying to get most people to kind of take a look at. No, you're right. And Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, you say he's preparing them for when this will be the norm. He's still standing there. He hasn't died yet.

The resurrection hasn't taken place. Well, to your point, in 620, you know, when Luke gave the version of the sermon on the Mount, looking at his disciples, He said, blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Yep. So he's going around preaching about the kingdom. He's trying to get him to see help is on the way here.

Well, in the next chapter, and I'm it. In the next chapter, which is, you know, kind of what we're leading to is this, he makes this statement in Luke 927 when he said, I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God. Yep. So he is revealing whatever that means. I mean, we know what it means, but the fun of studying these gospels from beginning to end,

as you see. You get to watch it happen. Yeah, you're watching it unfold. And we get bogged down in the trees a lot of times, and we're not seeing the forest. So that's why we keep trying to remind people that it wasn't like that Jesus didn't understand man, that people are going to have a hard time wrapping their head around this.

And so he brings up using parables. Because you think about how crazy this message is. I mean, you're living on the earth, even though we have the Old Testament, like you read, and these predictions that there's a Messiah coming, but you're seeing that all the people who are familiar with those, they thought, yeah, he's coming, but he's going. going to do something different than what he actually did. So then they didn't recognize him. And a lot of people still have it recognized him. So. And to your point, John the Baptist,

who couldn't have a closer front row seat. It was his cousin. It was his cousin. And this thing had been predicted for hundreds of years. Even he questioned it because he had a different view to Jason's point of what this was going to look like. And you got to remember in real life, they're sitting around a campfire because that's what he did back then. And he's like, look, you realize my parents, they could not have children.

They were past the age of childberry. And I'm here. And then Jesus is like, yeah, that's cool. I get it. But, you know, my parents, I don't even have it. They never, I mean, you know that had to. come up they had a conversation about that it's like you're not really tommy topping each other because

both were impossible without god the creator of the universe being directly involved and a manipulation of atoms and molecules occurring and genetic codes and laws of nature being violated so and they're having conversation about this and then the man i mean we're not very far into Luke's account and he's like, are you, now you, are you the one or should we look for another? What am I missing? And so that, that's, we're making a big deal about this is because how you think and how you view something matters. And that's really what he's getting into in Luke 8. The art of listing, which look, for the first few years of my Christian life, I won't even get into pre-Jesus.

I was not a very good listener. Because this flies in the face really of any kind of kingdom. I was a terrible listener. You said, what do kingdoms do? And we only have two categories of kingdoms. There's Jesus's and then there's all other kingdoms. Well, all other kingdoms, they basically use force to occupy. And they tell you what you're going to be.

going to do. You don't have to listen, really, as long as you comply. They just coerce you into, and even you see that even in the political world, you know, whatever side wins, that's it. You lost. You have to, even though you start making the rules, this is how we're going to function. And so then to make an example and illustration out of that, so if you don't think how you listen matters, you just use the political illustration. So whatever side of politics you are, any news that comes out, you basically either, if it's something positive, you shout about it, you know. If it's something negative, you spin it. No matter what comes out, it doesn't matter what really happened.

Because you've picked a side and you filter everything. How you listen to things is showing you with sideger. decide whether it be error or not. Yeah, forget about who's right or wrong. I'm just saying how you listen to things is coming from where you've set yourself on what side. That's true. Whether you're on the right side or the wrong side or, you know, it doesn't matter. My point is how you listen, because we all know we're like that.

If it's something that your side. Jace, you could be wrong, but I actually doubt it. No, I'm not wrong on this. It's like if something that hurts whatever party you're with comes out, you know, you're like, I bet that didn't even happen, you know. But if it's something positive, I was trying to think of something. I got a perfect. Oh, I got one.

They found cocaine in the White House. Was that the one you were going to use? No, I got another one. Oh, well, that to me. That was enough. Well, I am absolutely if they found cocaine in the white. You didn't know that? I'm just shocked.

I'm here. No. Well, I was shocked that somebody reported it. I thought, I was like, well, how does that happen? I was just assumed it. Now, I was going to use my own exam. So, I mean, I proudly supported John McCain, who's the one from Utah, Romney. I mean, I touted them, I supported them, I voted for him for president.

And a few years go by, and you've learned more about them. And I'm like, to your point, Jay's, I bought, I was drinking the Kool-A, but it turns out. turns out these guys weren't, didn't believe like I believed at all. If you're on the wrong side. I was on their side, but then it turns out I should have never, I'm embarrassed I ever voted for either one of them. Well, I was convicted when I read this. At least McCain was a war hero, so I can tip my hat for that.

I was convicted when I read this, the parable of solar. And I really think the first three verses, which are not about the parable of the soul, which we need to address. But when I read it, it's very convicting. Because you realize, and I've said this before, and I know, people got mad, but the older you get, the less likely you're going to listen. Like the people I run with now in my age bracket, they're not listening. And so it scares me because I'm like, and you say listening about what?

Anything. Now I'm going to read this. Any subject. I know this is where you're going, but I want to read it just to set it for the audience because I'm really glad we're giving the big, big flyover, because he closes out this section of the two parables we're going to talk about. in 819, 818, I'm sorry. Therefore, consider carefully how you listen.

Yeah, I was going to bring that up. Yeah, I do you work. That's a story where it says that, where is that at again? That was in the story is 16 to 18. Yeah, yeah. And 18's how he wraps. And look, Al, you're right. The parable of the soar, you know, it says it's about hearing.

You know, I think the King James, whatever it said, be careful how you hear. Yeah. And you're like, be careful how I hear? What does that mean? Why would Jesus be saying, and he's making a big deal about... Maybe a bunch of crap, but you believe it.

That's a Greek word crap. But you're right, in the 16 through 18, which we'll eventually get to, most people think, well, this is always about sharing your faith because it says no one lights a lamp hides it in a jar or puts it under a bed

because we're all thinking we're supposed to let our light shine we're supposed to be bolding outrageous. Most time you hear this priest that's what... This is not the context this is, that's not his point here. That's right. Because the point is in verse 17

it says for there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. Therefore consider carefully how you listen. That's right.

So it's like if you've got this, you're going to put a bowl over your life and say, oh, I got something going here, I got it all figured out. And he's like, it's all going to be revealed your thoughts. This is getting down into what's ticking in your brain.

And it also brings in the idea of the spiritual war we have with the evil one. They know, they use thoughts also. because that first heart where the seed never got into the ground, it fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Well, who are the birds?

You know, because the seeds are the, I mean, the soul is where all the people are. Your neighbors, your kin folks, this one, and that one. Well, I think people are the soul because that's the hearts. Right. But the birds coming in is someone who is not your friend. It's not a human being. It's the spiritual forces of evil. I mean, I think everybody agrees with that.

But what I wanted to say earlier that I didn't is I think the reason Jesus told this parable. Because people immediately think, well, why is he telling this story and what is a parable? You know, you've heard it define different ways, earthly story with a heavenly meaning or illustrator. teaching's method, meaning that you take something from nature and apply meaning to it, right? Yeah. And look, I'll tell you this. As much time as I've spent reading this in the last couple days, you know, I noticed even coming down here, you know, you look at a cornfield differently after you've meditated on this for a while, you know, or just a field that's got a bunch of weeds and briars. because you're looking at that, realizing, staring at that is where Jesus got this idea.

Yeah. And which is very powerful because when you just think we take for granted the actual germination process and things changing bodies and changing forms and producing other seas that produces other crops, we're taking that for granted. Yeah. Just it's powerful. just eating corn on the cob. It's like, what a miracle. This came out of the ground from one seed. All it did was take some time.

So he's comparing that to our hearts and how we listen and approach the message that we're hearing. So that's why when we started off, when he said he's proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God, you got to remember this is hard to wrap your head around because the message that he's bringing, is crazy. This is a crazy message.

Here's a king who's not into agriculture or a farmer. So I'm sure the people, it was a large crowd too. They're like, what do you know about farming? Aren't you a

carpenter? Carpenter hanging out with fishermen. And so he starts pontificating on agriculture. And of course, we know why, because that's why I brought up that illustration.

It was his idea. Yeah, he's the creator of the universe is why he's pontificated on agriculture because he designed that. And if you really think about it, it is a phenomenon that no one can explain. Because it's funny because on a scientific side, we come along now and put big words on stuff and say, look how smart we are. We figured out photosynthesis and we have all these words. Even the term mother nature.

Yeah. Who is that? Every time I make this, somebody, there's two emails. that come in. They're like, I can't believe you're downing Mother Nature. It's a word that humans made up. There is no person. It's like Santa Claus, you know? I mean, it's a, we don't know what to call it. So if you don't believe in God, you say, well, I believe in Mother Nature. That's just, it's, I don't, I don't know what to say about that. It's just we made something up so we could identify it. And there's a picture of on every Starbucks. Mother Nature, there she is.

There she is. So somebody built this, somebody made this, and Jesus, by him commenting on this, seems to have some kind of insight. But think about how crazy the end of it is. He's like, I'm from heaven. I'm a king. And I'm going to be tortured and crucified so that you can be victorious. It's just crickets. Just think about that. Just take what you know out of the scheme of redemption in God's plan. People are like, what? That's why I think he's going into detail about how you listen.

Because then he, when he come back from the dead, though, all of a sudden it's like, well, maybe there is something to this. Because if you could come back from the dead, that changes that changes a lot but then when he starts talking about what the kingdom is like well everything is backwards

everything's upside down you know if you're going to be powerful you humbure yourself you want to be rich sell all your money I mean I sell all you have and give away all your money you're like wait what it just

it's hard for you to be open-minded enough to even consider what he's introducing here I mean I mean that's my theory on why using parables, why he's using parables that the meaning is be real careful on how you listen

and how you're hearing in life message. So what I was going to make the point, though, is it's the exact opposite of every other kind of kingdom. Because every other kingdom, they come up with, here's the manifesto, here's what we're going to do. And it's all about, you know, the strongest person wins. We're going to whip everybody. We've got the greatest weapons. And so, So it's crazy. It's like... See, if somebody tells you, your father is the ocean.

Salt water is the... The giver of life. Yeah, the giver of life. That's where you got your life from. You know, you along with an elephant and a giraffe and a monkey, all of them, a whale, that's your father. That's why you say,

you better be careful how you listen because that you say but no that's true it seems nonsensical you say what you pick up some salt water you like so that's where i came from you got to be really that's where you came and you got to realize the older you get the harder it is for you to listen it's just harder for you to be open to anything oh that's right about any human and you're right and if you uh let's take her last one i think a good illustration though is like you're kind of fooled into thinking what true power is. Because think about it, so if you had a field, you know, we're fixed to get to this,

but if you had a field and you had 10 dump trucks filled with dynamite, or you had 10 dump trucks filled with seeds, and you said, well, which is the more powerful? Well, you would think the dynamite, because he's like, you go out there and blow this field to bits, but it would only be a one-time thing. If you put those seeds in the ground

and then this crop comes up and dies, but guess what happens? More seeds come from the ones that were there. When you're just looking at power. Oh, you're talking about, yeah, and I wonder how salt water makes its headway right there. I think.

So, well, what I'm describing is the two heartbeats of the kingdoms. You have one where it's all a temporary force. We're blowing everything up. We're in control. But when you look at really what Jesus introduced as being the creator of the universe, what just a plant does and produces and reproduces is a way more powerful concept. Very much so. I mean, it actually, he was sowing the seed for us that it's,

possible to come back from the dead because you see it in a plant that's right and because that what you look at and assume is dead is really not dead there's still life there because you put it back in the ground and start the process over dad you describe something so you you did these these bass ponds over here on our property and i remember when you first did all that it's it's flat ground there's nothing growing there's just weeds just weeds and then all of a sudden some birds start flying in and landing on the shore of this water. And what we didn't realize was they were bringing seeds with them. Yep.

That they'd gotten from other places like that. And now you walk over there and there's big will of trees. 30, 40 feet tall. Exactly. All that, the sower, was the birds that came in from some other place. And it came from their feet. On their feet. And I had nothing to do.

I didn't plan anything. I just looked up. And it's a forest now. It's a forest. I said, whoa. I told the Corps of Engineers, I said, You see this right here? What good?

Because I had to have permission to dig a hole in the ground. So I pointed to them. I said, what does it look like to y'all? They said, just to fill the weeds? I said, do you see any merit, any goodness in that? They said, not really. I said, well, what if you place this some levees to where this would hold water and come back in another few years and take a look at it?

Well, now it's at that stage. It's beautiful. About 10 years ago. So they go out there and look now, they're like, goodness, crazy. How did you do that? I said, I didn't do it. And that's to your point. The birds did it.

The birds did it. They're like, get out of here. I said, well, I'm just telling you. Well, I want to read this. I didn't plant the will of seeds. What's a will of seed look like? I mean, I think we've kind of introduced it. And I think it does go into what Al said, just from a context situation about, from this, how John

the Baptist and Jesus were viewed. Yes. Because there's a wisdom. You think about making wise decisions. I mean, how important is it in your life to making wise decisions? Yeah. I would say that better be in your top five from a lifetime viewpoint. Making wise decisions is essential.

And so. Especially for the big things. So I'm going to back up because in Phil and I had the same thought, that first verse where he's talking about when he's proclaiming the good news of the kingdom. He's going one town to the next, one to one. Yeah. And so, but this news is what I was trying to illustrate is crazy. It's crazy to the religious people.

It's crazy to the Gentile world because they're like, oh, we can come too. I mean, because he seems to be, he's claiming to be Son of God. He's claiming that he can forgive sins. and he seems to be going to every class of human being. Whatever humans have made the differences, he seems to be saying, rich, poor, all in between. Military, you know, across country lines, male and female. And then I think it's very powerful.

And these next two verses are skipped over. But I want to highlight them because a lot of people who look at Christianity as they just quickly dismiss it, which would be the first heart that we're going to get to, by the way. It's not even a chance. It's like I'm not interested. They accuse Jesus of being or Christianity like demeaning towards women or whatever. And everything we've read up until right now has been the total obvious.

He's valuing women in a way in their culture that wasn't happening. He's taking risk on who he's talking to in public, having the woman let her hair down, which we went through that a couple of podcasts ago. Well, that's why these religious people are like, well, you're not the son of God, because this woman, if you knew who she was, and she's being a public disgrace right now.

And you're going along with it. You're saying to be supporting them. there. Well, look right here. So it says in verse two, and also some women who had been, so here's the 12, so Jesus is going around, preaching the good news, the 12 were with him, the 12 apostles, and also some women who have been cured of evil spirits and diseases, Mary called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had come out. That's a lot. Well, yeah. Joanna, the wife of Cusa, the manager of Herod's household, which was a, just those first two that he mentions,

cannot be any different. You have a powerful woman, and you have a woman from the wrong town who's had this, you know, demonic experience, and then you have Susanna. And they are all together coming out. Yeah, and many, look, And happened with their own means,

where they didn't have a lot. Which is the direct opposite of what people view Christianity. When you get to Ephesians 5 and the roles that were male and were female and the husband's role and the wife's role, women were the backbone of this operation. Yeah, and they're like, oh, y'all are just like, you know, keep them whatever the say they have, keep them at home.

And they have a stereotype of what you're pregnant. And here you're reading this and you're like, this is the beginning, the birth pains of the kingdom of God, the Holy Spirit being unleashed on the planet. He's traveling around with 12 apostles and a bunch of women from every conceivable background, from powerful, influential to widows to single women, which is... Preach on, Jace. In their culture was breaking the law, these amendments to the law. You can't be going around in public with a bunch of guys. No. And they're doing it.

And Jesus seems to be supporting it. And they're making all the money to fund the thing. And look, and the whole time, primarily male people, male men, and all the time, look, Jay's, they're scratching their head saying, now who is this? Well, you can understand why it was viewed the way it was for sure. So we're out of time. We'll talk a little bit more about this setup about that, Jason, in our overtime segment. So if you want to follow us over there, it's blazedtv.com slash unashamed, is where he signed up for overtime.

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