Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 737 | Jase’s Dream of Being a World Champion Is Phil’s Greatest Nightmare

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

Jase’s dream of winning the British Open came true – at least in his mind. But where Jase’s dream of being a world champion golfer makes him happy, happy, happy, it’s Phil’s worst nightmare. The guys get into the powers granted to the disciples of Jesus, powers that Jase and Phil have sorely needed throughout their lives. Zach proposes that humans aren’t meant to be lonely and it’s evidenced by the scriptures. Listen to LO Worship's new song, "Presence": https://li.sten.to/presence In this episode: Luke 9, verse 51 – Luke 19, verse 27; Hebrews 4, verses 12-14 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? So welcome back to Unashamed. I'm still at the Southern Laird. Zach, is there anything been interesting to me happen in your world out in North Carolina? You're out there on the East Coast far away from us. What's been happening? Nothing but I've just got a house full of kids. All my kids, my daughter came back in from college.

and then her and Max, my son, they did a, I don't know if it's an internship or a, I think they called it a fellowship in Dallas with Shane and Shane. And they did an album with those guys. But they're all back from that. They were there for six weeks. And yeah, they've written some incredible songs. But they're all back now. So my house is chaos. The water bill has shot up the electricity bill.

Through the roof, the grocery bill, through the roof. I mean, the toilet paper's gone. It's like the locust have descended on my house. And it is, I've narrowed it down to the two culprits now. Apparently, it's Max and Leila and then all of their horde of friends. Well, that's the things that. So when you have dynamic young people, and it's a good problem to have because they're dynamic for the kingdom, which is a good thing. But when you have that, Jason's described this a lot with Mia,

you were going to have a brood of teenagers and varied, varied other groups that are going to be with them because, you know, they kind of cleaned together. So you just got to like the book. Jay stills my pain. Well, I know the son of man had no place to lay his head.

So these problems are, first world problems. Yeah. The back is almost there. Yeah. I think these are minor. I'd rather have my kids, you know, coming to my house than not speaking to me for, you know. I'm 100%.

So it's weird. I mean, you got to feed them. I mean, you got to bring the food there. You got to pay for a lot of good food. That's the key. But it's really great that your daughter, Lela, and my daughter, me, are roommates at college. So that worked out great. And are both doing wonderful things for the kingdom.

And very close friends. they are very close friends. So I do want to take a minute just to say thanks to Unashamed Nation. You guys, we joke about being an award-winning podcast, which we are, but it's really your award because you're the ones that support us and listen, support Blaze, and we appreciate that. Zach, there's somebody that asked me a question about, we mentioned on here about the Facebook group.

Who exactly is that? Because folks have asked me exactly what you're doing. I don't know what you're doing. Yeah, because we talked about. talk about that we ask a good question we talk about the unashamed group on Facebook quite a lot so if you're interested you and love these guys man there's so much good stuff going on over there it's the unashamed group our unashamed page on facebook the admin's name is steve lewis you can kind of look through and see who the

admin is um his name is steve lewis and then tanya anderson as well um but that's the one that we always talk about i think there may be others out there i'm not sure but that's the one we typically talk about and we in we are in conversations with those guys quite a bit love what they're doing on there it's turned out to be a really incredible community yeah and you know a lot of times when i have a question kind of wanting to know get the the the finger on the pulse of unashamed nation to see what you're thinking about stuff those are the guys i usually reach out to to ask questions you know what do you what are you guys thinking out there in terms of what we're doing yeah one more you know one more little plug here laela and live original

sadie's group they put out a new song um so we'll put the link to that to that to Spotify or Apple or wherever in the show notes, and you guys can check that out as too. So a lot of stuff going on right now. It's been a fun season. Well, I was going to say, just in that vein, to your listeners, the power, really the award goes to the Word of God,

because that's why people are drawn to us, I mean, it's the Spirit of the Lord in us. And, you know, if Hebrews 412 says, the word is living and active. And, you know, Hebrews is about that Jesus is superior, which, you know, we're in Luke, but that is the declaration. I mean, our last podcast, we talked about the good news of the kingdom

and what that was and is, and it is that the Son of God came to earth. Yeah. I mean, and he came here because he loved us. And we talked about the cost of discipleship, which I love the second half of that verse. I just pulled it up when you said it. For the Word of God is living and active. Sharper than any two-edged sword.

Here's the painful part. Piercing to the division of soul and of spirit of joints and of marrow and discerning the thoughts and the intentions of the heart. So you want to know about the cost of discipleship. Get ready to have your soul pierced by the Word of God, dividing soul and spirit. spirit joints and marrow and discerning the thoughts and the intentions of the heart. Yeah, which goes into what we were talking about. Because look, when he gets to 14 of chapter 4, right after that, he says, therefore,

since we have a great high priest who has gone through the heavens, Jesus, the son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. And my point is, you know, a lot of people, they think, you know, being a disciple we talked about this last time, which was it means to learn or follow, you know, from an educational standpoint, that seems easy enough. But being a disciple of Jesus is more than that, because you learn it through experience of knowing that he came here to save, and you're opening your heart, you're being humble,

and you're basically denying yourself and have accepted him, and then he sends you back out, and then you point people to him. I mean, it's a discipleship that's hard to put into work, words. It's hard to put into a book. It's a person. And so when you think about him being the word of God, which he said in John 1, you know, the logos, the logic of God, because most people want to, you know, they want to talk about the logic or the reasoning or have arguments about whether there is a God. And we're like, well, the logic of God is actually a person that you can be with because he loves us. So, you know, when you're, you know,

When I was in Wyoming, one of the people I met, fantastic human being does a lot for the environment and restoring, you know, the way the earth was. We had a lot income on both hunters, but he didn't believe in God. And so when the conversation went down that road, it got a little tricky because, you know, he was kind of given the same arguments that you learned in our university about where the earth came from. And he was one of the smartest people I've ever been around. He knew more about stars.

But, you know, the question that always comes down in these kind of conversations is, where's the joy? Where's the peace? It's the simple things that we take for granted as followers of Jesus that produced that. So I went that route instead of, you know, coming up with the arguments against, photosynthesis. And the point I was going to make is the more you experience this, the more you get into the word, the more you realize this is a relationship. And the opportunity that we have, you know, we're kind of forced in a funny way to study

the Bible, to get ready to have a conversation on a podcast, you know, where people listen. But just doing that really changes you. There was something that happened a couple weeks ago that I forgot to share, but now that we're here, I think it's a funny story. So every year for the past, I'd say 30 years, when the British Open, what we used to call the British Open, now I think they just call it the Open.

The golf tournament every year, the champion golfer of the world, you know, they do the four days. Well, every year for 30 years, I've gotten up at least one day. Usually it's all of them. I'll get up at 3 o'clock in the morning. Missy can't stand that I do this because I'm bumping around. So what are you doing? I got to watch the openness or tradition.

Well, this year, due to my schedule, the only day I had was Sunday, the final day. I didn't even know who was when, when I, I mean, I missed the first three days. But I also had to cram to study for our podcast, which was going to be on Monday. So I turned it on, got up extremely early, like 4 o'clock in the morning. And so there's this young guy who's winning the tournament. Little, little guy. I can't even think of his name. Wait about 140 pounds.

What was his name? Somebody I'll look it up. I'll look it up. And he won the tournament. But I had studied, you know, I started studying and I had the volume down. So, and he wound up winning. So I fulfilled my traditions. You know, the reason I'm telling you this story is what happened next.

So that night, when I went to bed, that Sunday night, I dreamed that I won the British Open. And you say, well, why are you telling us this story? I mean, I hadn't played golf at three times in the last year. But what happened was it was all about, because I could see it, you know, I played golf enough in the past to see when somebody gets in the zone. And so as I was playing, because a dream feels real. I was nervous in the dream.

I was winning. I kept looking at the scoreboard thinking, I mean, I'm fixed to be the open champion. Well, then all of a sudden I kind of lost my swing. If it ever happens to me, just remember this. For me, that would be a nightmare, not a dream. So I kind of lost my swing. I don't play in the open. I made a double buggy.

I made a double bogey. I cried a dream. There was like four holes to play. And I was sitting there thinking I was nervous. I mean, because it seems so real to me. And I thought to myself, I was like, quit trying to help the balla. I said, you're trying, because that's what I do. When I normally play golf, I'm like, because I try to help it.

And that's always what I'm thinking. Just stay down and let it happen. And when I had that thought, I just striped it. And then I was like a robot. Well, then as I'm out there, I realize, you know what, this is the same thing with the Lord. When I try, you know, to help it and like base it on my performance. So then I got so excited because I thought, this is about the Lord. This is, this, this, I'm, he is allowing me to win this.

I mean, I'm not even a professional golfer. I went over there, and that was the backstory of the dream. I entered it and, you know, won all the way through the regionals and got there, and then I won, won the whole thing. And so when they interviewed, and look, by the way, my celebrations were nothing normal. I mean, I was just off the chart. When I hit the last putt, I just started walking it, you know, walking it in. We're not surprised.

Yeah, I just went off the chart. And so then when they came to interview me, I said, look, the Lord did this. And I told about the swing thought I had. I was like, when I got out of the way, and so I just started preaching the gospel, and it just grew, like the speech they do, and then the interviews. Then I thought it hit me after I woke up and realized this was a dream. This is what happens when you study the Bible for about six hours while you're watching the British open. I wondered where it was coming from.

Brian Harmon was the winner. So congratulations. Congratulations on your victory, Jace. That is encouraging. Champion golfer of the world. Jay said that when you own the number one tee, did I have the little British guy that said, no teeing off from Westminster of Louisiana, Chase Robertson. Yep, that's what it.

I went through the whole tournament. I tried to tell Missy the story, and she's like, baby, it didn't happen. I don't want to hear it. You didn't win the British Open. I was like, but I really did. I really won it. She treated your British Open Experience just like your bathroom experience. Reality came fast, quick and fast.

But I just want y'all to know I gave all the credit where it belonged. And I mean, I shook up Europe because it was crazy. You know, they're like, this guy, he's doing duck shows and he won it. Yeah. James Robertson. So maybe we can have a psychiatrist on here and see, you know, what they think on why I had that dream. And why I remembered it. Yeah.

I love it. Let's take our first break. Jace wins the open. Yeah. I love it. So many people to think. But like our podcast, I'm going to thank the Lord because that's what I did. And he allowed me to experience that.

So people say, well, you know, I'm a cruise and I can't do anything. Yeah, you can win the British Open in your mind. If you give the credit to where it belongs, I won that open. And no one can take it away from me. No, that's yours. You put in six hours of Bible study to win that open. You did. You did your part, Jace.

That's right. I got out of the way. It's what's my point. I think it's a pretty valid point. I mean, Brian Harmon is from Savannah, Georgia, which is one of my favorite cities in America. It's a cool place.

And he's 36, by the way. So I looked him up. But congratulations to him. He actually won the British Open. Yeah, but I won. the one in the weird world of spiritual realms. Yeah. Was your competitor?

Was Willie in your for some? You know, it was like a dream. It had all the sights and sounds of the open. Yeah. But, you know, I didn't know who I was playing with. My caddy. I don't know the face.

It was just, it was the Lord me and the Europeans. That's good. That's pretty good. Only Jay's would have that story. All right. So we're in Luke chapter 10 is where we left off last time. We finished up chapter 9, which was actually, Jesus kind of gives us last bit about kind of what it's going to take. Because he's already said he's made it the turn now, to use a golf phrase.

And he's coming on the back nine. He's coming home now to Jerusalem. And so in that, he's preparing his disciples. And so something really interesting happens when, to get to 10 because remember we were back in what chapter was it chapter 6 when he sent out the no that's no where he sent out the 12 no that was the first of chapter 9 yeah okay early in 9 that's right that's right which i love because if this is a shadow al this whole deal about you had to be specially sanctioned to be sent out to be the lord's representatives goes by the wayside

yeah i'm serious i don't know where we got this that's what i've been so passionate about can understand and believe who Jesus is, then it's going to be reciprocal. You are then going to declare it. It's not like you need to, you ought to, you should. So we did a thing in overtime where Paul said, I believe therefore I have spoken, Sir Corinthians 413, which was a quote from Psalm 116, and it's the same principle. You know, the Lord healed me. I can't help but declare your praises in the presence of many. I mean, that's what it says over and over. The whole Psalms about that. that. So we are God's ambassadors from the smartest to the dumbest as far as from a early viewpoint, because it doesn't matter. Jesus makes us all smart. I mean, the king is here. So that's where

we're ready. And one of the reasons why he expands to now he's about to send out 70 or 72, both have been quoted in manuscripts, but he's about to expand beyond just the 12. But he's about to expand beyond just the 12 into this much larger group, to Jason's point. And what's interesting is one of the reasons why he needs a larger group is because this whole time that we've been studying in the first part of Luke, he's been basically in the Galilee area. He's been in Copernium, and he had been moving very far around. You know, he went across the lake and he comes back.

Well, now he's about to head toward Jerusalem. So there's a lot of cities ahead of him, including Samaria, which we, we're already talked about. And so they're going to go in and basically prepare the way for the king coming through. And so it's kind of a, it's kind of the way I imagine it. It's like he's prep, they're prepping for him coming through by talking about the kingdom and talking about the message. They're going to be, they've got divine authority. So they're going to be healing. They're going to be, you know, casting out demons and those type things, which we'll get into. But they're, the idea is, is they're prepping the way for his march toward Jerusalem. So that's kind of the setting.

Well, a lot of the scholars, I noticed, made a big deal of the number 72 because when you, the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Genesis 10, when all the nations were together, it was the table of nations. It was like represented by the 72. It was just the number. I thought that was interesting because I saw a lot of scholars who said that. And so maybe there was some kind of shadow there because when you think about where he's going to get to post resurrection he's like go into the whole world go preach the gospel to every nation and so i do think this could be a shadow to that on what's going to be the results of him dying and being buried and raised so i think so i think there's a link there i mean we talked about this in a previous podcast

even when Jesus went and cleared the temple, you know, he makes that reference. Like, what was that? Mark. It basically says you, you, this is, this was a house of worship for the nations that you turn it into a den of robbers. And so you do see this whole kind of unfolding with the coming of the kingdom. One of the key components of the coming of the kingdom is that this thing is opening up for everybody, which it really always was, even in the Old Testament. You know, it talked about that. But it's, you're opening this. up to everyone.

And I think that goes also to the idea of what you mentioned earlier. It's not for a select group. Peter calls us a priesthood of believers. So when you start make that transition in your mind to think, well, hold on a second. The kingdom is not made up of a professional clergy with a select group of people. It is actually, we are all clergy. We are all priests. We are the priesthood of believers, and it's open to every group on the face of the planet, not just Jewish people.

It's opening up to everybody. So you think about how this unfolds throughout Jesus' ministry, all that focus on the temple, which was the temple, the place where God's presence was. And what he's ultimately going to accomplish is establishment of a new temple, himself being the cornerstone of, And then us being a part of that temple, who is us, everybody, not everybody, but everyone who accepts Christ, everyone who's under his lordship is part of the new temple. And we house God himself. We house the Holy Spirit, which is what qualifies you, by the way, to go out. It's not you or your ability or your biblical knowledge or your ability to articulate things or your charismatic personality. the only thing that qualifies you to be a priest in the kingdom of God is the blood of Jesus

that covers you and sanctifies you. That's your qualification and that you have the Holy Spirit in you. I think that's what he's setting up here. Yeah, which was Paul's point. The reason I read up that 2 Corinthians 413, I believe therefore I've spoken because then when he gets chapter 5, he's like, we're there for Christ's ambassadors as though God were making his appeal through us. But then he says, because God made him who had no.

sin, you know, 521 says this, to be sin for us so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. So he shares just like what Jesus is pointing toward him going to Jerusalem, he's going to die, he's going to purify us. We know he didn't become sinful, but the penalties of sin was on him and he took for us to the cross based on love so that we might become the righteous. of God, which is through his spirit in that purification process, we are then his ambassadors, which is the whole idea that he's beginning about the kingdom of God here. He's bringing them in and he's going to send them out. And here in the early stages of it, it doesn't go real well because you see, you may go ahead and read it out. Yeah, yeah. Let's take a break before you do.

So it says in 10-1, After this, the Lord appointed 72 others and sent them out two by two ahead of him to every town, place where he was about to go. He told them, the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers and to his harvest field. Go, I am sending you out like lambs among wolves. Do not take a purse or bag or sandals, and do not greet anyone on the road. When you enter a house, first say, peace to this house. If a man of peace is there, your peace will rest on him.

If not, it will return to you. Stay in that house, eating and drinking, whatever they give you for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house. When you enter a town and are not welcome, eat what is set before you. Heal the sick who are there and tell them, the kingdom of God is near you. But when you enter town and are not welcome, go into its streets and say, even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet, we wipe off against you. Yet be sure of this.

The kingdom of God is near. I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for this town. And so we can read this next part later, but I'm going to skip down where it says, when the 72 returned in verse 17 with joy and said, Even the demons, Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name. He replied, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I've given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy. Nothing will harm you.

However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven. And we'll get to the next part later, but I figure that be enough to talk about. And so what you see is, as Jay described, it's a similar send out for the same one when he sent the 12, similar instructions. And I think the reason why was the idea is that you're defended by God and you're provided, your dependence is going to be on God as well. So that was obviously the reasons we talked about before, and I think it's similar here, that they're not supposed to be provisioned. You know, you don't move around from house to house. And we talked about before this idea of Eastern hospitality. Once you go into that house, that's your place.

That's where you do your work from. So there's a lot of cultural reasons why he tells him some of this stuff. But ultimately, when he sends them in, the idea is you're not dependent on yourself or your ability, but you're doing this because of your dependence on God. Yeah, and it's also like a revisiting kind of of this idea that we've been talking about, at the end, about even in the kingdom, you know, you can take, we talk about this all the time. I think it's good. You can take the gifts of God.

You can take the benefits of the kingdom. kingdom. You can take the blessings of the kingdom and you can elevate those to a position where that's what you're putting your hope and trust and faith in and your joy in. I mean, how awesome it would it be to be able to, I mean, you got the kind of power in you that serpents and scorpions can bite you and you won't even get. We talk about going up Wisconsin, Jason, you can see the rattlesnakes, not having to worry about getting bit by one. That's power, right? You have power over demons and all. And they're talking about with Jesus and he's like, yeah, that's pretty awesome stuff, but don't rejoice in this.

Don't rejoice that the spirits are subject to you. Again, reemphasizing, rejoice that your names are recorded in heaven. It's a reestablishment of the true kingdom. It's not about power. It's not about what, it's not all the things you can get from the kingdom. It's the fact that you get to be an eternity with the king himself. You get to live and dwell in the presence of. God. And I think that's even for these 70 that are going out, you know, that's even, even for

them that are with Jesus. I mean, like, it's like this temptation's in all of us, right? We want to focus on, Jay talks about a lot of time, you know, focus on the miracle as opposed to the miracle giver. Well, you said Wisconsin, but, but it's actually a little west of there. Yeah, it was wild. What did I say? You said Wisconsin? But I love Wisconsin. And I really, I really love. I really love there. Yeah. More rattlesnakes west of there. I, I actually. I actually did not know that Wyoming had to many rattlesnakes. I figured it was so far north.

Not going to be too cold. And I actually thought about this verse when he said, I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions, which I do not have, but I didn't want to put the Lord to the test, but I was on a little place called Rattlesnake Ridge. And then while I was there, you remember our old cameraman that I've been praying for, he sent me a picture. He got bit by a brown recluse. I would share the picture, but it's so graphic because my response was, are you going to get to keep those fingers?

Because it was one of the most, yeah, it was terrible. In Wyoming? No, while I was in Wyoming, he sent me a pitcher. he's in I think he's in Arkansas but he had just gotten bitten but he was in bed for 12 days sick Mac Hobbs my cousin first cousin showed me

the result of he got bitten in the middle of the back by a brown recluse but it ate out a hole yeah that was a hole in his finger but what I was going to say Al in this passage which I know there's a lot to get to and the reason I skipped that one section I did it on purpose because if you just look at what is happening here, which we've spent the last podcast setting up what's fixed to happen,

him sending this out. They're to declare that the king is here. They also have the ability to drive out evil spirits, because they said even the demons submit to us, and he gave them the power to heal diseases. Well, when you think about just those three things that they were supposed to do, because they're a common three things that he keeps doing and giving them the ability to do. So if Jesus is the king, and he has the power over evil and over sin,

sin or slash evil or the demonic cosmic world, any of those categories, and he can heal any kind of physical ailment, including raising people from the dead. Yeah. Well, if all these things are true, this is the ultimate history, defining and changing moment of the world from beginning to end.

Because if someone came to this earth with that ability, well, there's your answer to your problem. We have stumbled up on as earthlings humans, the defining moment of human existence. And it came free of charge. Yeah. Out of love. Yeah.

Which is interesting, Jay, is because the people here involved in the section you read, they took demons submitting to them as the ultimate. It's like, okay, we got it. Like, there's nothing we can't do because even, demons will do what we tell them to do, that we can cast out demons. And it's interesting because Jesus comes back and says, yeah, but that's not why we did it, which is really interesting, you know? Well, right.

And I do think, like, a subplot to those three things is what you said, because I don't know if y'all noticed this, but so when they said they were filled with joy, because, I mean, the Bible doesn't, I don't believe in accidents. So in verse 17, when they return with joy and said, well, then Jesus does his reply, and watch what 21 says, because he rebuked them. He said, don't rejoice because the Spirit submit to you. Rejoice because your name's written in heaven, which we'll talk about.

So 21 says at that time, Jesus full of joy through the Holy Spirit said, I praise you, Father of heaven and earth, because you've hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure. So it's really his joy versus their joy or our joy. Yep. Correct. He didn't like where their joy was coming from because it was coming at, oh, look at us.

And we already have seen the clues of this coming up. It's a place of pride, which was his point. He saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Why did Satan fall? Pride? Yeah, he had a wrong kind of joy. In his position, you know, when you make that in with Ezekiel, you see it. And we just read the part about the argument over who was the great, who they're sitting

around talking about who's going to be the greatest. And talking about how they're going to distribute fireballs on unbelievers. It's a prideful, selfish view of who Jesus is. And look, Luke's going to do this. over and over again. You know, when you get to Luke 15, I know the prodigal son, the one in the pig pen gets all the press, but the one at the house was just as selfish. He wanted the stuff too. He just did it from a self-righteous view instead of a, you know, self-rebellion and actually, actually, Jay's, let's take another break. All three parables were written to the mindset

of the older brother, to your point. Because it started out with why are you eating with sinners? And that was the problem with the older brothers. So really all three parables, we focus more on the loss, but it was really for the one who was not joyful about the loss. So, I mean, it shows you that point all the way through. Well, just to highlight the point that I was making about this was a history-defining moment, the king is here.

You know, just for fun, if you want to do this. And I researched this because I didn't want to recommend a movie and it, you know, be rated at all or whatever. But I remember seeing a movie. And so I made Mincy watch it with me again. But we found a TV version of it. So it took out all the cuss words and all. So it was, I don't know if you've ever seen this movie. It's called Elysium.

It's got Matt Damon in it. It's a sci-fi movie. I think it come out like. I saw previews, but I never watched it. Okay. Oh, you're not going to believe this. So, just to be clear, do not go rent this movie unless you're watching the TV version. And look, whatever, wherever she found it, every five minutes, they would run a commercial.

And it was the same commercial, the entire movie. So it was very, it was some weird form of torture because it was something to do with weight loss. It was a terrible commercial. And you had to watch it. Jason, I don't watch shows like that. Well, this was the commercial. The commercial was horrible. Our commercials.

Well, I had to pay the price to get a clean version of the movie because I didn't want to watch a bunch of cuss words and all that. But the reason I'm talking about this movie is because if you want to know how Hollywood tried, and they tried it in this movie, to depict what we've been studying up until the first 10 chapters, this is it. And I'll just give you the gist of it because it's been out 10 years. So if you hadn't seen it, consider yourself. This will be a spoiler alert. So look, it starts off.

It's like the world was overpopulated and disease was running rampant. Oh, I have seen this movie. Oh, yeah. And so they show. Now what you're doing. It's all slant. And the epic center is Los Angeles. And there's just people.

And of course, and what are they doing in the streets? All kind of evil behavior and robbing and looting. It's just terrible. And so. And what's happened is all the rich people built this colony through tech, you know, technical geniuses that you can see. It looks like the moon, and it's called Elysium. Now up there, everyone is dressed nice.

And so they have... It's quiet. Yeah. They got the good food up there. And so they have... You don't need Jesus. We got this. They, they, tech, technology figured out a way.

And look, they figured out a way to heal all your disease. and by healing all your diseases and giving you everything that you want and look in the right part that cut down that ruled out all the crime and all you know so they had it all figured out in their mind so the whole movie is about Matt Damon they got this data out of somebody's head who is one of the guys from Elysium and so it looked the worst part of the movie because missy had to get up and leave they do brain surgery on my Matt Damon because he only had five days to live and they put all this data from this guy's head into his head.

And look, it was a reboot to the Elysium home base. Now, catch this. That if they said, if we figure out a way to make this available for all humans, because, so let's say you have a person that's sick on Earth and you take them to Elysium, which is what they were trying to do. When they got to the bays that would cure you, They cure you of any disease. If your name wasn't in the register, it wouldn't do it.

And so he eventually goes up there, figures out a way to get there, you know, all that part. But he had to sacrifice his life to get the reboot. And his girlfriend's daughter who had cancer who was dying, she's on the bed. And once he died, the reboot happened in her name. appeared in the registry. And that little, she went through it and she was cured. And I watched that thought, where'd they get this idea? Yep.

I mean, you got to have your name written if you're in, because I really think it's a powerful point that Jesus was saying. Because back then in this culture, they didn't have printing presses and all that and cell phone. So towns, there was a register. And if your name was there, you were imported. If it wasn't, guess what? You're out.

And so that's why I think Jesus used this analogy is because he came down here for everyone. And he says present tense, your names are written in heaven. He went past tense saying, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. And then the part we skipped, he said, if they had had the same kind, of sermon y'all had, they would have repented a long time ago. So here you have a being Jesus who was the same yesterday, all the way back to when Satan fell. He knows whether your name is written in heaven, and he knows what would have happened if something that didn't happen would have happened.

So you see that verse, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So my speech is Jesus is better than Elysium, which is a made-up story about how technology is going to miraculous and all your diseases, you know, and all. Which is funny. Elysium sounds like it's some kind of pharma drug for, you know, cirrhosis or something. You know what I'm saying? Well, it was just fascinating, you know what I mean, that I thought, here's all the world's problems. how can we solve it? And they're banking on technology.

They're just looking in the wrong place. But even with technology, look, they still had to have a sacrifice. It's like because love had to be there. And I thought even though they tried to debunk everything that God created out, there had to be a reason to watch the movie. And that was it because he loved humanity. He was willing to give his life up. But what's funny is, but Jay,

Here's what's funny about your perspective on the movie. Let's take a break. So your perspective on the movie was through a spiritual lens. And that's why you saw this text there. But I can guarantee you probably the makers of this movie and Damon was probably a producer or something was that it was about elitism, how that, you know, people who are poor don't have the same opportunities and there's systemic, you know, things against people. and it was more of a political statement in their minds and probably never even realizing the spiritual implication of the film. It's taken time to look up Jesus.

It had been a lot better off. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's why I was bringing this movie up because I think it was done to promote a liberal agenda. But even in that, it gets back to the point, the same point we've been making about religious people who say, well, you shouldn't go out there and share Jesus, you know, because I've run up on a lot of people that say that. They're just like, it's about us. You go meet, do your church thing there, but don't

cause any ripples out in the world. Well, that's contrary to everything that this is saying. I mean, it just is. Everyone has a particular thing that they're promoting. So if people come to you and say, you shouldn't promote Jesus? Well, that's, that's your, you're, you're doing the very same thing that you're telling me. Everyone has some take on life or, and that's why we, through conversation, no matter where you go with it. I mean, I just met at least 100 people that I'd never met before. And all the conversations miraculously got into the same things we're talking about. And you say, what?

Because I was sitting there. I'm like, I'm going to move that conversation into things that matter. And eventually we're going to rest on who do you think Jesus is. And then they say, well, I don't think you should do that. And I had a couple of those people. And I'm like, well, that's your take. But if we're all in your account, we're just all screwed. Which is a very true statement.

They're like, yep, we are. So you better just go and enjoy life while you got it because you ain't here long. No, that's good. And I thought about, you know, you were saying, even if you go back to the beginning of this, there's so many, like, timeless truths that are represented in this text. One is the idea about sending them out two by two. I mean, that seems like a simple thing. Like, you know, that's just the way they did it.

But if you think about it, it's really the way we should always function. You always need someone there, both for accountability, for support. I mean, Jesus is showing. And he showed up when he's down to 12 and he shows it with this larger group. And I was when I read about this, when I read this in the text, it made me think about someone in the Marine Corps telling me that, you know, when they were in training, when you dug a foxhole, you always dug it big enough for two Marines to be in that foxhole.

And the reason why as the Marine Corps knows, when you're in battle, you need somebody with you. The worst thing you want to do is find yourself by yourself, you know, for a lot of different reasons. And I think there's a spiritual truth to that even for us. I've told the story before on the podcast, but only one time in all my mission travels that I go by myself. And I got into a bunch of trouble and was facing things that were difficult. And I needed somebody else there.

So, I mean, these are just truths that make mission, life, everything we're doing, kingdom life. You know, that's exactly what we should be doing. So it's just another one of those little things that really is a great big thing. It's a great point. Associated Press put out on May 2nd of this year. I thought this is interesting. I just read this week. Loneliness poses, this is from the Surgeon General, poses risk as deadly as smoking,

according to the Surgeon General. And he went on, this report goes on to just talk about the effects of being alone and being by yourself. And so I think you're right. I mean, even our Surgeon General, not from a spiritual perspective, just looking at the effects of loneliness and being isolated, being by yourself. and it's like, that's not how God designed us. You think about in Genesis, in a Genesis account of creation, when God makes everything, he makes animals, and what does it say? It was good.

He made mankind. It made everything, and it was good. And when Adam was in a state of perfection in the garden, when all that existed was the garden, the God had created the earth and everything, and Adam in that indirect relationship with him, he did say this one thing, that's provocative, he said, it is not good that man should be alone. So even in like a direct

relationship with God that Adam was in, God still recognized that we're made in his image. And he looked down to this creation and he said, after everything was made, except for woman, he said, it's not good that man should be alone. And then when he made woman for man as a companion and this complementarian relationship between the two, he came back and said it is after after he, after he assess that, he said it's very good. And that's the only time he said that in creation. So I think even in this, the DNA, no pun intended, the DNA of our structure of our makeup, because we reflect who God is, we are relational beings. And you see it right here, too, that God wants a companionship for us in really all aspects of life. Yeah, and you could, and you could apply that both to the good and the bad. I mean, they were full of joy when they came back. But, you know, what if you don't have somebody to share joy with? It's not nearly as good. And it's the same thing with accountability for pride. You need a priority. I mean, how many of us, the four of us all know, our wives help keep us in check

because they remind us, you know, when we're being too proudful, we're going too far. You know, that's why you need to. Well, I think, too, he made the point about being like children. And in this context, it was like he gives, he reveals the answer why he made that, you know, in verse 22. because he says he contrasts that. No, it's in verse 21, with being wise and learned. And then he also, you know,

when he first sent them out, he's like, don't take a purse or bag or sandals or money. Well, I'm sure that was scary because it took a lot of courage, but it was this idea of you depend on me for the, and that's what, you know, kids do better than anybody else. I mean, no matter what you do, they're wanting to hold your hand when they're kids because to them, this is where my security is.

But when we get old enough to think we've got it all figured out, it's very hard for us to be dependent on the Lord and surrender to him. That is where the pride comes from. So those are kind of the underlying principles of what he was trying to train them and grow them up to be. No, and I think that's it. I think you're exactly right, which is why he brought up the idea of children and then a father. You know, he brings his father into it. And so we're almost out of time. But in overtime, I want to talk about that a little bit more because it's really interesting that Jesus brings in for the first time in all of human history, this concept of the God relationship being a father and a son.

And why is that? You know, why does he do that? And I think this text gives us a little clue to that as well. So write a time on Unashamed, but we come back on our overtime. We're going to talk about that as well as a few other elements of this idea of the sending out of these 70 or 72 and what that meant both in the moment then, but also what it means to us today as well. So if you want to follow us into our overtime segment, it's blazedtv.com slash unashamed is where we'll be. not only you get her overtime for this podcast, but then you also get everything that Blaze has to offer all of their shows,

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