Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 748 | Phil Almost Got Killed by Buzzard Poop & Jase Happens Upon a Majestic Bald Eagle

Episode Date: September 7, 2023

Phil is reminded of the time he faced down some deadly droppings when Jase mentions his encounters with majestic American symbols like the bison and bald eagle. The guys remember the difficulty Phil had when first starting out selling duck calls, especially from the duck call industry itself. Jase and Al guess how Jesus was able to speak to crowds of ten thousand without a microphone, and the guys cover the “Woes of the Pharisees” section of Luke.  In this episode: Luke 11, verses 45–52; Luke 18, verses 31–34; Acts 15, verses 5–11; Colossians 1, verses 9–23 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome to Unashamed. I guess we're back how we started. It was the three of us. We were in Tony and Phyllis's bedroom now, it was the old lodge. And just the three of us started the Unashamed podcast. We don't have no gas, no Zach. It's down to the three. Zach flamed out. Whereabouts? Unashamed. And I've got a text out to him, and I'm sure he'll respond, but as time goes by. He'll respond like next week sometimes. It'll be like it just happened.

Yeah, exactly. That's the way he rolls. Maybe he had some kind of, you know, what do you call them, reception, when you can't get a signal. Yeah. Technical difficulty. Yeah, that's when I was in Wyoming, there was no signal to be found. Phil, you'd have loved it. I'm going.

I'm going this weekend. You're going to Wyoming? I'm going to Wyoming. I inspired you to go to Wyoming. It inspired me, Jay. So I looked ahead at the projected temperatures for Louisiana. And it's ranging from 102 to 105 for the next week to 10 days. And so, and it was already hot before.

So I said, you know what? We got a little break coming up. I said, I think I'm going. Jason went up. I heard about how cool it was up there. So I looked at their temperatures. That wasn't cool. It was hot, but it was cooler feeling.

Yeah, but so since you were there, because it's been a couple weeks since you were there. So up there right now, that same time frame, high 75, low 49. Lovely. At night. That's chilly. That's a jacket. Yeah, exactly. I got to go dig through and find me a jacket.

But I'm thinking, you know what? The only signal, the beauty of it all. The only signals that these Montana cats got up in the middle and over up in there, hand signals. Hand signals are still there. They're still there. But they're not tapped in yet. No. So won't we do any podcasts from there.

They're not looking at a little black box. I bet, a few of them are. I got news from. I'm one of the few people who's not from Montana, but I'm acting like I am. Well, the only time I ever was in Wyoming, Lisa spoke in Cheyenne. Of course, you know, when you're not from a place,

it's like when somebody says Louisiana, everybody says, oh, New Orleans, that's what they tell me. I say, well, we're like almost five hours away from New Orleans. Like, yeah, it's in our state, but it's at the other end. It's weird. And completely different than the way we live. Yeah, New Orleans is different from the entire rest of the state. I would say it's like...

It's almost like its own little state. It's a different country inside of the state. It is. But people think that. So same with Wyoming. So you say, well, oh, yeah. So I was going to Cheyenne. I said, oh, I've always heard how pretty it is.

And no, not to people that are listening from Cheyenne. But when I got there, I was expecting mountains, you know, the titans, all that. Well, apparently that's, I was on the wrong end of Wyoming because when I drove in, I thought, well, this looks exactly like Dodd City, Kansas. You know what I mean? It was a cow town. It's flat. You know, there's, you know, you could tell it's like totally different.

So I learned that states are different. So this time we're going to the eastern side and see the mountains. But mainly just for the weather. No, I think you'll like it. I think it will do. We've never been, so we're taking to. It's very vast. Yeah.

Which is, I like that. If we ever get an overpopulation issue or, you know, some of these people, or being overpopulated or just go to Wyoming. Trust me, there's room. There's as much room as you need. Montana, the Dakotas. I mean, it's just far as you can see. Did you see wildlife, like buffalo and elk and stuff like that?

It's all buffalo. There was one place we had to drive by every day. It was a big herd of buffalo. And one of the days we... Are they being farmed or is it just a herd? I think they're just now they're like roaming, right? I mean, I was just driving by them. I don't know.

They... It would be hard to tell in the middle of... I mean, you know... I think they're trying to just like repopulate them to roam around like on their own. I mean, it was several hundred. And they were just... One day they were right by the road. I mean, so I wasn't going to be that guy to get out and something.

say, hey, Mr. Buffalo. You know, I mean, they'll hurt you. That's a big animal. Yeah. Especially if you spook him. But we all just slowed down and look. You know what I saw a lot of in Wyoming, which is interesting. I don't know why I'm popped in my head.

We saw a lot of bald eagles. Yeah. I saw a ton in Alaska. So they have these. They migrate to a certain extent. So we see them come through here. But up there, I think it's kind of where they live. Well, down here you'll see what one or two.

Yeah, you know, but you don't see a bunch. Yeah, they saw a bunch. But there was, there's these little, a lot of things live in the ground in Wyoming because it gets a cold, you know, they dig tunnels. They got all forms of badgers and prairie dogs and all this. That's what the Eagles are. Yeah, these Eagles, I could tell they would get on these little mounds and you'd see all those little holes there were in there just sitting there.

And I was like, man, how would you like to wake up, stick your head out of the ground and say, Good morning, everybody, and then an eagle just. And next thing you know, it's talons in the back. Vicious, because Missy was like, oh, look at the pretty eagle on top of that mound. I was like, well, if you keep watching, you go have nightmares about what's fixed to happen there. You know, they build, so they tell us when we've seen them up in Alaska, you know, they mate, like, for life, I think, and, like, they build these elaborate nest. and so when we think of a bird nest,

but look, I saw an eagle's nest that looked like somebody had built a tree house. I mean, this thing was massive, and they said it, you know, they just keep adding to it because they're there all the time. So that thing was like 30 years old.

Well, Phil, you had a duck blind one time in a tree, remember they called it, Eagle's nest. Yep. There was a nest above you. Eagle's nest, we see how it is. This is pretty incredible. Yeah, they're an amazing bird.

I mean, we've done some pretty good, duck blind making up in trees. Right. We still have some that are, most of them are floaters, but, I mean, there is something unique about hooting out of the tree.

It's hard to get in the high water line with blinds. Yeah. I mean, the best way to do it is be on a floater. Right. He's standing on five or six big cypress logs. It just comes up and goes down with the water.

Because the trick is, you better be there when it starts up or down because you get the slack and the ropes. But I wonder if it's, I wonder that if it's because when we hunted and we were kids in that, that cypress tree blind, the one you,

you know, up on Moss Lake, I wonder if that's why that experience of that, because this is a different kind of hunting. Yep. Than hunting on the water. So I don't know, maybe that's,

because I've always, it's almost like nostalgic to me now to hunt off a tree. Yep. For ducks. I mean, it's just a different kind of hunt. You're right.

The, Male and female bald eagles make for life only finding a new mate if theirs dies. Yeah. And lay from one to three eggs a year. You remember that movie where they were trying to get the eagle eggs for power? Yeah, yeah. But juvenile bald eagles are dark brown with white modeling and don't develop their iconic white head and tail until they're four or five years old.

Interesting. So we went to a, we went to a place where you got to see them like a, it was like a zoo type thing, but it's a, it's a place where they bring injured eagles. There's so many in Alaska, so they bring them in there. And they got a whole separate thing. And you could see them, but it was kind of, you couldn't get too close to them because they're still wild and they're trying to repair like a broken wing or whatever. And then they'll re-release them if they don't keep them too long. or if something's like permanently wrong with them. So they had a few there that had stuff they couldn't fix.

So you got to look at them. But I mean, I was stunned at first when you look at them up close when you're right next to one. How big they are. Oh, they're big. Huge bird. So don't get to feel all warm and fuzzy because there's another bird that mates for life, the black vulture, known as the buzzard. The buzzard. Really?

I did not know that. Yeah. So I was thinking of all these birds. I've never seen a buzzards nest on the ground, or do they nest? No, they just, they don't have a net. It actually. Because I've never seen a nest, a buzzard on a nest. I've never seen that.

No, it says, let's see, where did I just read that? The vulture species doesn't build a nest, but rather lays its eggs on the ground or in hollow cavities. We've had to have buzzards drop their egg in one of them duck lines. Oh, no, yeah. And what do we have to do to the blind? Burn it. Well, we had to rebuild. I mean, you could, once the buzzard,

there's a spiritual lesson here somewhere, because once the buzzard moves in, you can never dwell there again. That old blind had to be cut off. It's dead. And a new blind had to form, had to appear. Because the smell, I mean, there's some things that stink.

there are some things that stink to a point to where they just, it doesn't leave. Some biologists up, I think it was Dan's dad, old Gary. He said there's microbes in that dung from a buzzard that have killed thousands. I mean, he got up there with peroxide. I don't know what, some kind of liquid. It was probably right where his camera area was. That's why he wouldn't. So we had to kind of spray up, spray the,

the butcher nests and everything, you know, just for the microbes, he said, it's real dangerous. I mean, there's a lot of microbes. Well, and that's their role, you know, they're part of, you know, they're part of nature's cleaning system. Yep. I about hit one coming down here today, which I make sure I'd avoid them because, you know, Jason, you mean that the time we were, we were flying in a little small plane somewhere. I think we were going to Uncle Wade's funeral, and we're coming in to land.

you know we're like we're six 800 feet off the day you know we're coming in and all of a sudden we just go straight up i mean you know of course it scares everybody you know because it's not the normal move you're you're used to going in and so then the old guy uh alan the pilot he comes on he said sorry about that uh big buzzard he said you don't want to hit one of them i mean he was so nonchalot we're back there high planes down before Oh, yeah. Well, he didn't seem to be as afraid of like that happening, but he was more afraid of the stink on his airplane. Because he's like, yeah, you don't have one of them. You don't get rid of that smell. I mean, he was kind of like more worried about the smell. And I was thinking, I'm back there hyperventilating and thinking we almost cried.

I never forget that. That was crazy. Yeah. Well, you ready to get some texts? Do some Bible study. Let's go for it. Where we leave off, Luke? we're in Luke chapter 11 I keep trying to say we're already in 12 I've been doing that this whole time putting the wrong thing in the notes well they put these

these things in between the paragraphs and the numbers which you know the Bible wasn't written in the form that you read it with the numbers but it's actually the last paragraph in chapter 11 I mean he just continues to go on

to chapter 12 and it's along the same lines, would you agree with it? Right, yeah. He's just going to continue that discussion. The crowd gathers there. And it's a very unique passage because, you know, a crowd by the thousands forms. And then Jesus starts,

he's looking to the disciples and saying something, looking to the crowds, looking to the... Yeah, it's almost like he's having two conversations going on at the same time. Hang on, let's take the break. So, yeah, you're right, Jason. That number, the crowd is in many thousands. I looked up that Greek word and it was tens of thousands is what it meant.

I mean, by this time, so it's at least 10,000 people that have come together. But it's almost like Jesus having this. He's like, Jay said he's having this like personal conversation. He turns his disciples. Then he's back to the crowd. And I don't know how he's. They didn't have microphone. Right.

I mean, I don't know how you speak to a group that large. somebody some things I read said they back in the old days of course you had like natural amphitheaters and that's why I got in the water and there's you know natural things you could do but they said that you know when you had a huge crowd they were pretty good about like passing on like things that were said at the front it just like a way ripples right to the back so but it almost be like I guess like an interpreter you know I think that's what was happening yeah I think you know he'd be speaking and then somebody would pass it on. And then it just went.

If you're wondering if it's like that game by the time it got to the fringe of the crowd. That's right. It's like paracical teachings, you know. You got to make sure you get the right guy passing on the Intel. I told you all one time I was in Mexico and our old friend, Manny Canales, and Manny is, was, he was born in Mexico, I think, but he spent most of his life in the U.S.

And so he doesn't speak Spanish very well. He's Mexican, but he spent most of his life in the U.S. And so he was our interpreter on this medical mission. So, you know, I'm speaking one day to this crowd of people because we would preach or speak sometimes to the people waiting to be seen by the medical people. And so I would say a sentence because I'd work with interpreters before and that's kind of how you'd do it. And you just wait a second.

They'd say it. Then you'd just kind of get a rhythm with them. Well, I would say a sentence or two. And then Mani would go for five minutes. And I was thinking, you know, I mean, he's not saying. what I'm saying, he's just preaching. I mean, we could just cut me out. I guess I was just feeding him an idea. And then he was doing his own preaching. It was pretty funny. Especially if you're a believer, though. He'd get excited. Oh, yeah. He was fired up, you know,

and that's the way man he is. So before we get to 12, there were a few things back from 11 that I wanted to mention, because we talked in the last podcast about these six woes. that, and J.S. you read the text before, we did these six woes from the, to the, half of them were to the Pharisees, half of them were to the teachers of the law. I call them the lawyers. They weren't lawyers in the sense that we think of lawyers today, but that's what they were. They were experts in the law. Most Pharisee, Pharisee sects would have a group of these lawyer types with them to make sure that nobody was interpreting anything the wrong way. Again, the fear was if we get one jot or tittle off. Well, they had what? 613 laws. You know, that still goes on, that mentality.

Oh, yeah. But they had a lot of other laws that we, you know, I think you call them walls. Yeah, they built fences around the law to make sure you didn't get too close. Well, what was amazing, even in Jesus' question, you know, when they had the conversation about, I think that was in chapter 10. Remember when the expert in the law, yeah, it was 1025, he asked Jesus, what must I do to inherit eternal life? Well, Jesus asked him two questions,

what is written in the law and how do you read it? But even that guy, he had the summation, he had the point. He was like, love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. So he had it figured out. Of course, Jesus says, Jesus was like, well, do it. Yeah. And so then that was the problem because then you remember the story, well, exactly who is my neighbor?

And it actually, you know, if you just back up from where we came, you have this interesting story about Jesus coming to Mary and Martha's. And Mary just falls at his feet. And Martha's trying to get all the details. and keep the party going, which is a little fair circle if you think about it, you know, trying to get everything right except the point. And Mary was like, whoever this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, the Son of God is here. I mean, because that is the whole point of what Luke is saying and the other gospels. The king is here.

God is visiting the planet. So the kingdom is coming. That's Jesus's message. And you see that, you know, when we got to the Jesus' teaching on prayer, he's like, your kingdom come. And then he introduces this idea of the Holy Spirit in verse 13. Well, then he drives out the demon. And the reason I'm going back and going through where we're at

because the other gospels tie what happens in Luke 12 to this story. Yeah. When Jesus cast out the demon, demons. They said, well, the only way you're doing that, no, we're talking about Pharisees, is that he must have a demon. So in Mark 3, and where's Matthew's at? Yeah, so Matthew 12. Matthew 1232 is the verse you're talking about. That's it. So you'll see the similarities in verse 25 of Matthew 12. It says, Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, if every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined. Well, that's exactly what he was going.

through in Luke's account in chapter 11. Right. Same story. But then he ties in this blaspheming of the Holy Spirit here. And that's in verse 32 of Matthew 12. And it's Mark 3, yeah, same one. Yeah, anyone who speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven,

either in this age or the age to come. So you say, why are you making a big deal about this? Because, you know, I think this is probably one of the most talked about verses in the Bible when we get to Luke 12, and it's like he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. And then we combine it with that John, was it, First John 5, which talks about the unforgivable sin or unpardonable sin.

So you're right. It frightens me. Well, First John 5 says there's a sin that leads to death. Yeah, right. That's what I meant, yeah. And he's like, I'm not talking about that. You're like, wait, what? So when you think about it, why does this matter practically?

You know, Jesus, when you consider anything in life, you just think, is it true? So let's say there's a new product that comes out. I mean, Phil, we'll use your, your, your, lightning rod moment in the duck hunting world. So when you said, you know, I think that I should build a duck call that sounds like ducks and sell them, you know, revolutionary idea. And for you people that hadn't listened to the podcast the whole time, you know, back in the day, if you wanted to sell duck calls, you had to go win the world championship duck calling

contest. It's in Stuttgart, Arkansas, every year. Then you become famous and then you are now the authority on duck calls, so you sell them. The problem is to win the World Championship duck calling contest. What you're doing is more of an display of air control than sounding like a duck. So it was actually a lie. So I said all that to say, is it true? Would it be? Would it, would you be better off in the duck hunting world if your duck calls sounded like ducks? Well, obviously, or maybe not so obviously, because up until that time, that really wasn't a thing. That's true. Well, then the second question is, well, will it work?

You know, is it true that sounding like ducks? And we had duck. That's duck calls sounds like ducks. We had tapes of ducks. and then we would mimic the ducks and say, you just heard ducks. Now listen to us and ask yourself a question. Yes.

Do they sound like ducks? You had tape recorded ducks, and then you tape recorded you blowing the duck haul. And I went into the world's greatest duck area, Duck calls, Dudgard, Arkansas, and was belittled, loud, mild. They said, they'd laugh. They said, you actually.

think you'll sell that piece of junk up here. They didn't care what it sounded like. But it's because... It wasn't a demonstration. Beb, bab, bab, bab, bab, bab, bab, bab, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, ba. Way, way more than what a duck could do. Yeah, that's what they did. Because there was...

I was... I was down that, but you were a duck hunter that could sound like a duck on a duck call. They were doing a duck calling contest that had nothing to do with a duck. That is correct. So that was the difference, and you were trying to bridge a Yeah, let's take a little. So my point is...

I don't hold it against him and I don't love him over it, but... When it gets to the Pharisees, trying to explain how Jesus has this power over demons, because even though it's broke up in Luke's account, there's other stories and predictions in between. You know, we get the light and the darkness and the sign of Jonah. It's the same fundamental question. Is what he... Is what Jesus is doing?

What he's doing, is that true? is he speaking the truth. And so the Pharisees are challenging him and the experts of the law saying, no, the only reason you can do, this is not from God. And so that kind of led to what we'll get into in the next podcast in Luke 12,

because if that's the plan that you're claiming, you're never coming to Jesus. Because you're nullifying the fact, because the Holy Spirit works to point you to Jesus. Right. So if you're like, well, he gave some other arguments, if a kingdom is divided against itself or a home, it's not going to stand.

Which is true, by the way. Yeah. I mean, you look at any great venture. Once there's disunity and coups going on, what happens? Well, it all falls apart. I mean, it just, so Jesus is speaking. It's kind of like looking at the politics of the United States of America.

Correct. At the top, if it's corrupt, guess what happens? The people will suffer, and the legislation that comes forth doesn't seem to be working because there's corruption here, you know? That's right. If you have preset a narrative that, according to this context, which plays into what we're talking about in Luke 12 when we get there, is that your narrative is, the Holy Spirit, which is part is God.

It's who he is. I mean, it's the father, son, the spirit. If he is evil, if you can somehow convince yourself in your narrative that the Holy Spirit of God is evil, which is what they were saying, Jesus had an evil spirit, then there's no pathway. It is unforgivable, because how would you ever have a pathway to have a relationship with God if he was evil? So you see, it's just a debt, you've built a dead in. But to Jason's point about the, I think what you were saying about the duck calling stuff, is if your narrative was to be a good duck caller, you had to be a Stuttgart world champion. Not true.

Not true. When it came to real duck. A good duck caller could be one who just calls ducks and shoots them. So that's what I'm saying. It's the same principle. If you have fake ducks, which are called decoys, and you're trying to. make them sound like they're real. Well, you need to sound like ducks.

Then real ducks would say, hey, you know what? That's ducks, I hear it. So... Let's join them. The reason we're going into this is because Jesus turns that around in chapter 11, because the Pharisees are basically decoys, and what they're saying is not real. it is an illusion

but they're claiming Jesus is the one that is an illusion saying oh you're just evil and so that's why we have to go through this because when you get to chapter 12 people say there's an unforgivable sin I need to stay away from that

well it's a little more complicated to explain than just saying don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit because most people think that means if you just say something negative about the Holy Spirit but it's a little deeper than that So what he's saying, if you think about it, what Jesus is saying is, because he says, I mean, he's part of the Godhead too.

But he says, but he understood where they were. They were having a hard time to accept him because he came from nowhere. He didn't look like a person who had anything because he didn't. You know, he didn't fit all these narratives they had in their mind. So he's like, I get it. You're having a hard time except to me. But if you say that the spirit that lives in me is evil, then you're never going to be able to believe in me. I mean, I think that's his point. at the simple level, I think that's what he said. You've bought into the wrong narrative.

And because, but they were trying, they kept looking at him thinking, well, he, he can't be from God. I mean, look where he's from Nazareth. He can't, like, they just couldn't wrap their brains around the fact that this was the way God was going to come to earth. And, you know, they had misread the tea leaves, as they said. He was not attacking this group over that group over that. He didn't seem to, he didn't seem to have a feeling one,

the other about Rome occupying Israel. I mean, like, he just said, render to Caesar what it is? I mean, he didn't fit anything they thought was going to happen because they saw him coming in, flipping everything upside down, and then them being the rulers of the world. That's the way they thought it was going to go, but it wasn't like that. In fact, the only thing he flipped upside down was everything they had going on.

He goes in the temple, he flips over all the tables, and he says, you've turned my father's house into a market, you know, a den of thieves. So, I mean, he just didn't fit. narrative. So really it's easier for us to look ahead, you know, before we get in more of the Pharisees, because a lot of people are saying, well, what does this mean for us today? You got to remember Jesus is predicting the kingdom is at hand, and he's the king. And even in teaching them how to pray, he's saying, the Father will give you the Holy Spirit. You know, part of our relationship with God. He's come here to bring people to God. And we know why the separation,

occurred because of what? Sin and death. God has no sin and God cannot die. So here comes Jesus in the form of a human, and he's fixed to bridge those two gaps, and he's going to use the Holy Spirit of God, which is the other work of God, you know, the Trinity, the three and one being that is God.

Well, the Holy Spirit is going to help you in that process. So if you go ahead, like you read something in Collegiate, And theologians, which is really a, you know, a focus on Jesus. You remember the famous verse 15 through 20 or 21. You know, he's talking about Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. By him, all things are created, things in heaven and earth. I mean, this is the same guy that visited our planet.

Yeah. Visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authority, all things were created by him for him. He is before all things, in him, all things hold together. He's the head of the body, the church. So you see that the church is almost like an organism. He's the head and we're the body. It has nothing to do with a building.

And God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him. So we're talking about the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit in human form. And to reconcile to himself all things. which would include us by making peace through his blood. Well, then it gets to us. You were once alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior,

but now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body to present you holy in his sight without blemish, free from accusation. I mean, this is the gospel. Verse 23 says that. This is the gospel that you heard and has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven. Well, all of this was right after,

if you back up the point I wanted to make is when you get to into verse 11, 12, and 13 of Colossians, it says something interesting. If I just pick up in verse 12, it says, we give thanks to the Father who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints. Look, in the kingdom of light. So when we're reading about Jesus saying the kingdom is coming, now post-death-billian resurrection, we're skipping ahead to modern day, this kingdom has come, and you can be a part of it

through what Jesus did on the cross and his resurrection. So that's why when you read that about, why would Luke right in the middle of that put about you can't hide a light under a bowl? Well, Jesus is bringing all this to light. He's reconciling the world, and he's doing this through the power of the spirit,

and he's on a mission from the Father. all the fullness is dwelling in him. So then when you read verse 13, it says, for he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness. Well, part of the darkness that we're discussing is him having the ability to cast out demons, to live a sinless life. And so he brought us out of that darkness

and brought us into the kingdom of the sun he loves in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. it's like we're looking at the prequel of this happening in Luke, and it helps you understand it when you realize the consequences, in a good way, of what Jesus did. No, that's good. So, you know, it starts making, say,

I mean, we probably should have done this last time, because it does get confusing when you get held up here in Luke, and you're like, well, what is all this big, what's the big deal? Right. Well, the big deal is when you have a religion, like the Pharisees, that God instituted based on the law. And now Jesus has come to fulfill that, show you a new way under grace,

and he's reconciling the world. The Pharisees were acting like they were religious, but their heart weren't, it was a million miles away. And they were neglecting the very being that came to rescue them. And not only that, they're accusing him of being on the other side. He didn't rescue him.

you know from the dominion of darkness they're like he is the dominion of darkness well that becomes unforgivable when you get to chapter 12 because how in the world would you ever come to jesus when you're nullifying the very vehicle that's supposed to bring you there if you got the ones that were running with him and jesus said gee he took the 12 aside said y'all come over here a minute and luke chapter 18 he said we're going up to jerusalem and everything that is written by the prophets about the son of god son of man will be fulfilled he'll be handed over to the gentiles i'm just letting you boys know they were mark him insult him spit on him and uh flog him and kill him on the third day he would rise again the disciples did not understand any of this

It wasn't like, well, you know, he's saying this and that and other. But if your own disciples, your closest followers, they did not understand any of this, its meaning was hidden from them, and they did not know what he was talking about. If it's that difficult to get past the ones you've been working with for three years. Yep. Can you imagine the people, the ones you haven't been working with

for the last three years? When it comes to law, mercy, grace, it just was too much for them. They didn't get it. It was back to what we were talking about earlier, that it shows you how powerful the false narrative was of what Jesus' purpose was in even coming here. And by the way, if they didn't get it,

the closest ones that work with him in his circle, if they didn't get it, what you think about 2,000 over to 2,000 years later, when we're doing what we're doing right now on how many say they'll get that Bible out of my pay they'll mock you'll mock you for it oh yeah Bible thumpers you know

they're thinking hey on there's a hell you know they're hollering about people being raised from the day I mean it's a joke yeah not only that Phil they'll say I've had people in debates and arguments say well you're not following the whole Bible because you're not doing you know they'll read something under the old law, one of these 600 laws, which by the way, one of them was the penalty

of sorcery is death in the Old Testament. Well, that's what they were really accusing Jesus of. In fact, if they're saying you are using the demonic world, well, they were trying to lay a case where they could kill him, which that narrative didn't leave because that's what they were trying to do the whole time. That's right. But you got to remember where people, are wrong who argue that today is that we this whole bible is inspired by god and this is what he laid out when we get to the new testament and when it says we're no longer under the old law even though the old law is in the bible the new testament and we acknowledge that it that is part of the bible but we're also acknowledging that later it says you're no longer under that law so it's a it's a

It's a terrible argument, but it's people who don't, they don't know Jesus. They didn't get it. And when Jesus was heading toward the crossbars, he was thinking to get hung on, they didn't understand what we're on. No, and you're right. Let's take a minute. We keep thinking they know the story we had it because we've got the stories from the beginning, which they didn't have.

And they just find it something, I mean, it was weird that they just don't get it. But you're right, and bringing it up here, Dad, because this is a point where the crowd size now has gotten into the now multiple thousands. So imagine they're looking at, they don't think he's the son of God, but they can't argue that something's happening. Hundreds of thousands of people don't start flocking to something unless it's a big deal. So there was the confusion in it all. And what's interesting is right when you think he's about to take off, he's got the army, let's do this thing. even though they don't understand it, he takes a lonely walk to a cross. And Jace, to your point about blaspheming,

that was the main thing they're charged against him to kill him. Oh, that he was blasphemyming. Remember, they said he's a blasphemer. He's saying that he can forgive sins. You know, that's what they wind up hanging him on, you know, the cross, which is interesting because it's the one thing he says that they're guilty of by denying the Holy Spirit. So the bottom line is the problem with the fairs, is the same problem that all other religions or all other, you know, truths in quotation marks that people put their trust in without Jesus.

And it's the one that says you can do this. You can win God's favor or you can be successful. And we even say things, you know, be all you can be, you know. Even that's one of our country's motto. You know, you can be all what you. you can be. But when you think about it practically, you know, if you're 12 years old, you can make a list of what you want to be. And you could say, you know, I'm going to be a professional golfer. I'm going to be, I'm going to win a world series. I may be president. I think I'll be president, change the world. Well, you can have all these aspirations. But what happens in real life, you're not able to pull it off. And that's the same thing with the Pharisees under the law. if you're going to go by that law,

you're not going to measure up. And if that's where you put all your hopes and dreams on your performance, and whatever your hopes, dreams, and goals are, when you're 12, when you're 21, you realize, you know what, I'm probably not going to be president. You know, I'm five foot forward.

I have no athletic ability, so I'm probably not going to win the World Series. You know, the realities come, and that's where Jesus is, you know, the opposite of all these religions and what we think. He's like, I'm going to do the work for you. And that's going to be your motivation to then put your trust in me.

And so that's why he's flipping it on its head. So when you get to these six woes in 37, and we went through some of them, you know, they noticed that he didn't, and we talked about that, washed before the meal, which was an amendment to the law that you had a ritual. And what does it do? It makes you have a sense that you're gaining God's blessing because of what you're doing. You're doing a ritual that's going to gain God's blessing. And since Jesus didn't do it, they were confronting him about it.

And so then he gives them the speech, and we went through some of them. He's like, you clean the outside of the cup, but inside you're full of greed and wickedness. Well, we know that he's talking about the heart there. Then he's like, woe do you Pharisee, you give God a tenth of all these things, but you neglect justice and the love of God. So you're not fulfilling what the law was intended to do, which was love God and love your neighbor. But you think, oh, I gave a tenth.

Look how good I am. That narrative continues. So he then says in 43, you like or you love the most important seats in the synagogues, ingredients in the marketplace. So you want the people to adorn you and say, oh, look how great you are. Because what does that mean? That means you're important.

You're special. I'm going to have a special place in heaven because look how important I am. That's right. It was status over service. They didn't understand the idea about serving people. Then the insulting thing where we left off last time is he, in 44, he's like, you're like unmarked grace, which men walk over without knowing it. And he was really an insult.

It was a huge insult. Because he was like, really, you're just filled with dead men's bones and greed, and people don't realize how you're a monster without us even knowing it. Yeah, Luke actually gave the much kinder version. You go over and read Matthews, he said just what Judge just said. You're like whitewashed tunes. I mean, on the outside, it looks like it's a nice place to bury somebody. But inside it's rotten to the course.

It's like a horror movie. It's like a horror movie. It's a zombie. It's like somebody's smiling at you in a movie. And then all of a sudden, you know, they have these graphics, you know, where they change their face, looked like they're 180 years old and big long. That's basically what he was accusing them up. And so the expert in the law then said, well, you're kind of insulting us here.

Which is, by the way, you know, it's a huge insult when they were, oh, whoa, whoa, we're contaminated. We're not going anywhere near a dead person. So then he gets into this hypocrisy saying you load people down with burdens that they can hardly carry. But you yourself, you don't lift a finger because you're important. And that's a huge one, Jay. Because what he's saying is that you are adding weight that doesn't need to be there. And imagine if you're God in flesh and you came here to release humankind from the burden and weight of sinfulness, of breaking the law. and feeling the guilt of that.

And then he's looking at these guys, they're adding more to it. And he said, you don't lift a finger to help. I came here to die for it. One of the experts of the law answered him, teacher, when you say these things now, you insult us also. Hey, and then he makes a deal about them celebrating their heritage.

And, you know, he's like, but you killed them. Your forefathers, you're the ones that killed all these people. And so he, I mean, he just, literally it's one right after the other. And it's interesting, Jay's because he mentions, he mentions Abel and Zachariah. And, you know, they, in the, if you look back at the Old Testament, that's the two bookend martyrs. There were many there.

Abel was the very first one martyred because of his belief in God, because he was sacrificing correctly. And then Zachariah is the last one listed chronologically. It doesn't, he's not the last in the, in the text, but he's the last one chronologically in Second Chronicles that was martyred because he was a man of God. So he mentions the book-in people that had been martyred. And he was like, you're no better. That's what you're doing.

Of course, he knows they're about to do it to him. So, I mean, that's what he's getting at. Yeah, so you get to 52 and his last woe, he says, to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge, which is Jesus is the key to knowledge, and the way he was. was working was through the power of the Holy Spirit, which was the vehicle there, which means they were keeping people from acknowledging that the kingdom of heaven is at hand, and people, all people, as we'll see, can be a part of it. So I wanted to read, you had this in your notes

in Acts 15. This would come up. Yeah, this is why it matters. Later, and we'll talk about this in the overtime, but I at least wanted to read it in verse. starts in verse 5 gives you the setup for it. So in Acts 15, 5, here, you know, then some of the believers who belong to the party of the Pharisees. So here they are, same people. Yep, stood up and said,

the Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses. So nothing changed. They're still saying, what you do on the outside is going to reward you from God. You're going to experience the blessing based on what you do. The apostles and elders met to consider this question.

After much discussion, of all people, look, Peter gets up and says, Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you, that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. What's the message of the gospel? Jesus, the good news of Jesus, the king, him dying, being buried, being erased. God who knows the heart, which is really his whole argument to the Pharisees, your heart is a million miles away. It's full of greed and bitterness.

God who knows the heart showed that he accepted them by giving them the Holy Spirit. That's the vehicle by which God brings people. Just as he did to us. He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God

by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? No, exclamation point. And here's where we're getting to. We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved just as they are. So when you go forward, you see that Jesus' plan, God's plan through the work of the Holy Spirit, was to save all men, all men, Jew and Gentile, every person, no matter what, through his grace.

And that would become the catalyst to love God and love your neighbor. No, so we're out of time, but I'm so glad you read that verse, and we want to talk about it more in overtime, because that really is the why, such the importance of the why we're talking about this now, because we see it represented even on the other side of the cross, and it still goes on today. So you've got to deal with that. So we'll talk more about that in overtime. If you want to follow us over, blazedtv.com slash unashamed is where we'll be. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by rating us on iTunes. And don't miss an episode by subscribe.

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