Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 78 | Jep's Unashamed Debut, Vetting Your Teenage Daughter's Boyfriend, Fake Meat & Living Water

Episode Date: April 19, 2020

It's the Jep-isode you've been waiting for! The youngest Robertson brother joins the Unashamed podcast as a first-time guest. Jase and Jep reveal the vetting process that goes down when boys want to date their teenage daughters. Jase also has a theory on what marketers try to imply with Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger. And Phil, Jase, and Al have a lot more to say about what Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well. See episodes of "Unashamed with Phil Robertson": https://bit.ly/2J4XsiX   See clips from Phil's TV show "In the Woods with Phil": https://bit.ly/2PNM6k1   To take a FREE 30 Day Trial of Phil's TV show and the rest of BlazeTV: https://www.BlazeTV.com/Phil Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right. So I noticed that this morning that, because last week we were doing a podcast and you informed us that you had not bathed in days. Revolting. If not weeks. But you came in today and noticed your hair was kind of wet. So does that mean you finally took the plunge or what?

I didn't listen to the health authorities as I should. should because when they talked about washing your hands and personal hygiene, I just woke up this morning and looked around. I said, when's the last time I washed my head, you know, as in wash your hair? And I thought, good night. It had been a couple of weeks. So I said a couple of weeks. So I go in there and turn the faucet on, stick my head up on it, get me some high dollar shampoo. And I actually wash my hair, as the women say.

Only Phil would refer to shampoo as $5. Well, my personal hygiene, I'm going to tell you, since the pandemic coming along, my personal hygiene has dropped dramatically. Well, I'm glad you've surrendered to their advice. That made me think of our grandpa. Remember, there was so much iron in the water that every time he would wash his hair, it would go from silver to blonde. Remember that?

With kind of an orange tent. Yeah. And I thought, yeah, iron and self-law. Are you, what are you defeating the purpose if you change hair colors because of the iron in the water? But he was, trust me, Paul was smoking five packs of cigarettes a day. He needed to wash a little more frequently. Well, yeah. The combination of B-O and cigarette smoke is not good.

As someone who is concerned about germs somewhat, I appreciate you. Yeah, me too. We're all on board. And look, just for so people, they don't see me. I actually didn't just didn't think about washing my hair. Because you weren't going anywhere. The only people I've seen in the last month are you two and no name sitting over on the computer. And Dan, you say, and Miss Kay.

So I'm down to about four or five people I've seen in the last month. And he means no name affectionately because all these guys kind of look the same. and they're of the same age and Phil can't keep up with them. He just calls them all no names. Yeah, which is funny. What's funny about it is they answer you. Oh, yeah.

In a loving way. They'll be that. So I was, Jay just discovered, you saw that when Terry Bradshaw was on Larry King a few years ago. Did you watch that interview? Did somebody show it to you? I don't think. I had to show it to.

So on there, it was just interesting, and Jay pointed this out, I'd seen it before, Jay had never seen it. And they were talking about you. So Larry King was saying, And this is back when the show was on. He was like,

do you think the Duck Dynasty guy could have really played in the NFL? That was his question to Terry Bradshaw. Of course, they talk about you. But he reveals in that interview that you are the one that nicknamed him, the blonde bomber, in college. And what struck Jay and I was is that, you know, we've always known dad nicknames people, mostly because we think he just doesn't want to know their name.

Well, and he has offended thousands. Oh, of course. Because he says, he states the obvious, but especially when you get into the female world, you don't call a female. Thunder legs or, you know, husky or, which I know. Chubby. Phil, I know you and I know you don't mean anything by it. But for the rest of the population, they find that offensive.

So I've tried to help you with that because I'm designated as the representative of the family. Their names, I do that because their names, I don't remember their names. But I did find it interesting that you've been doing that. since college because you actually called Bradchild the blind environment. So that's pretty interesting. All right. So look. So, Jay's, you had your call in with Jeremy Camp last week.

And I thought they went so well. I enjoyed that so much. I decided today, I hadn't told you guys, this is a complete surprise. This is a podcast, unashamed surprise for our audience that I've got someone that I want to call to be on the show for a while. Oh, boy. And so it's a close person, but they've never been on our show before. So let me see if I can get him on the phone.

This will be a better. I generally as a general rule, I don't like surprises. Is there a drum roll? All right. Oh, here we go. We're ringing. Willie answers the question. We're going to put it under that mic.

Hello. Oh, hang on. Well, my first impression was Mountain Man. All right. So you're a mystery person right now. Jason, Dad, do not know about this call. I know now because I see his name on the phone. I see his name on the phone.

I thought you were Mountain Man, which is disturbing. Mountain dog. So you know who it is yet, Dad? No. Dad still can't figure it out. Can you say something that only Dad would recognize who this person is? No, you're still on Mountain, man. We've gone through that.

Let me give Dad. Here you go. I got it. So I'll give Dad a hint. The person on the phone, you saw him being born. Well, that narrowed it down. Jep the road. It's your own son.

I like Jeff that it took about. Jeff, is that you, son? I don't know if this went from warm and fuzzy to disturbing. We noticed that when he was born, when he was born, we looked at his hands. And his little finger on one hand was about just a little stub there. And I said, boy, that gene poo is dropping off in a hurry. So the mutations had caught up with old Jepico. Jim, I didn't know, is there one of your digits is not the same as the others?

It is a little bit shorter. I wouldn't call it a nub, but it's a little bit shorter. I'd never noticed that. He showed it to me, and I thought, hmm. He didn't have to show it to you. You saw it. I just thought he was the last one, so he was a little bit shortchanged, if you understand what I'm saying. I really don't.

I thought we were all made in the image again. By the way, Jep is in a terrific work helping all. Well, yeah, and we want to talk about that. Jeff, so just to let the audience know, so Jep is our youngest brother, which most of you probably know that, but some of you may not. And Jeff is, let's see, Jeff, are you're 41? Yep. 41.

41. I'm 55, so I'm the oldest of youngest. He's the second best-looking brother. Yeah, behind me. That's true. He's a looker. Yeah. And I think Jep has a lot of dad's quality, especially with.

my dad was younger, you see a lot of that because of the dark hair. He had the darkest hair of all of us. And Jeff, I mean, look, you got a, you know, what are you, the United Nations? How many kids do you have now? Five children. Five children. And the other morning, Kay answered the phone, and it was Gus, Jeb. And Giff said, and Mom, how are you doing?

She said, Gus, is that your? How old is Gus, Jeff? Four years old. Which is Jeff's adopted. child. You got four by, what do you, what would you go? Biological. Biological. Thank you, Jeff. Because there's no telling what was fixing to come out now.

Acquired. And then you adopted Gus. And Gus, he's four years old. How big is it, Jeff? He is large. He's 100 percentile in height and weight. So he wears six to seven year old clothing. Oh, my God.

And he weighs like 50-something pounds. So for whatever reason, reason, even though dad had potentially a NFL arm, none of us had any potential professional sports qualities. So, Jeff, you may have adopted into our family a potential... Well, speak for yourself. I just didn't pursue that. I mean, at least I had the anatomy because y'all got too much of K.

Well, I mean, I was... What were you going to be? A pro bowler? I could have done that. I pursued that for a couple months. Who did? Didn't. And Willie did, too.

So, Jep has it in Austin, Texas. Yeah, Jep moved to Austin two years ago. I did. It's good. I guess during this time. But, yeah. I wanted to jump in, Jep. I taught you a skill or I introduced you to a skill.

And it's perfect. I've tried to commence Phil and aisle of this, but it's not working. One of the best things you can do during this pandemic is metal detect. And I introduced you to that, so I'd like to know how that's going along. Did y'all know that? You know, Jeff actually told me that he and River had gotten into that. I didn't know it was through your influence, but I should have. Yeah, how's that going, Jeff?

Yeah, we definitely been doing it. It's been great. I have found some cool stuff. I just had my best find. I found a button from a jacket from World War I. Thank you. That's pretty cool. That was pretty cool.

Awesome. Yeah, you sent me a picture of that. It was awesome. I needed somebody because this is better when you can kind of share your fines with someone who understands the pain of metal detecting because it can be tough. So, Jeff, when you were at the orphan's home and where was it, Ethiopia, have you heard any reports about the coronavirus spreading out in places in Africa? For sure, you know, they had that locust thing come through there, which was horrible.

I guess y'all saw that. deal. Oh, yeah. Pest of a typical plague. Jay's hasn't. He doesn't watch the movie. Explain that to me. No, just like this

horde of like millions, billions, trillions of locust came through, ate all their crops, and like, you couldn't drive down the street, like swept all the way through,

like, through Africa. It was terrible. So they had that in the corona. So, yeah, it's been pretty tough. So,

Jeff, tell the audience, kind of back up and tell about what you're doing, the group you're with, and that sort of thing. It's really interesting. Mom and Lisa and I went over to Jeb hosted a fundraiser for what he's doing now, and it was really interesting, and I thought really fascinated. So tell our audience about it. Yeah, for sure. So I went to their gala a year ago, which you came to a couple months ago, and I just, last minute thing with a buddy, and I just love what they're doing.

and it's called All God's Children International. And we do orphan care and international adoption kind of all over the world. And I just kind of fell in love with what they're doing. And the people involved and was like, I've got to be a part of this. So now I'm an advancement officer for all guys' children and love it. That sounds official. Advancement officer. We're proud of you, but.

And look, and I had to say the Jep was in charge. basically he and another guy of the gala that we were at you know it's in Austin Texas this kind of kind of of a swanky place you know and it's about like you know Tebow's deal plus we've all donated to it to happen though sure and because look I mean the Bible says there you get no closer to God there's no better picture of what it means to be a believer in the Almighty than when you take care of widows and orphans James one yep yeah so I mean Jeff what you're doing is exactly what God called us to do and you're in your making it happen. For sure. I never thought this would be something I would do. And I mean,

I got to give credit to mom and dad for always showing me that. And I remember being a little kid. And mom would give me, you know, five, ten bucks. And I'd go find some of the widowed ladies of church and give them, you know, some money. And they were just so appreciative. And I just, you know, grew up knowing the power of that. And yeah, exactly that. Like, that's, that's really what being a Christian is about. It's helping the helpless. that is true i mean that's one of my memories as a kid i mean we didn't have any money y'all didn't either but we've always you always set that example of helping with the ladies it didn't have to be money a lot of times it was fish or you know stuff we killed or you know whatever

so jeb talk about that a little bit more because i we've talked about it a lot on the podcast and obviously jason and i being on the older end of our family we have more we have still have memories of dad pre-Christian, especially me, and then saw the transformation. But in your case, you grew up totally in a Christian home when mom and dad's lives had both been totally changed. So what was your perspective on growing up out here on the river and just, you know, kind of, you mentioned already some of the stuff you learned. But how would you characterize it? Because we've kind of given a different picture of dad before and after. But what about just dad and mom after? It's definitely different. I think than most.

people grew up as far as just you know I just remember being a kid too and you know running the boat motor and we're going out and dad's running the nets and uh you know you know working working as a kid and putting you know dipping the calls and uh but as far as like you know just family i remember as a kid just watching dad study the Bible with just hundreds and hundreds of people and just like i don't think this is normal but it's really cool um and walking down the river and baptizing people. It's just, I mean, it's definitely a different way to grow up, but amazing. And, you know, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Yeah, and you had a lot of times, I'm sure I remember, because I was living next door when you were a little boy, but Lisa and I were married. But I remember so many times when there'd be I'd meet somebody over there that had come down the night before. There'd be some wet clothes out on the front porch. And, you know, like, they weren't there when I left there the day before. and then there's a person there that was like it had been baptized. So that was kind of a normal.

So, Jeff, you have a house full of girls now. So how does that, when you wake up in the morning. Well, there's two boys. Yeah. And you have these little girls running around. How old are your girls now? Oh, they're at that age. 17, 15, and 13.

Whoa. Yeah. Lillis. The two got boyfriends. I'm doing that with air quotes. Oh, boy. But they're good girls. I mean, everybody warns like, oh, man, you just wait until they get a certain age.

But I haven't seen a problem. They're great. And, you know, I don't know. Well, you and Jessica have done a great job. I mean, your kids are awesome. I love them. And, I mean, that's part of the whole thing about growing with them. But, yeah, it is an interesting time you're about to get into.

There's a lot of drama with, you know, girls. Well, when you say 17, 15, and 13, you realize that, Time is passing by. It goes by quickly. So have you interviewed the boyfriend yet? You know, the oldest Lily, this boy, it was kind of a strange call, but he called me and said, hey, Mr. Robertson, is there a way I could get coffee with you? And this was, I didn't know who this kid was.

And I said, sure. And so I went with him the next morning. And he just kind of sat down. He's kind of nervous like to him. And he's like, I just wanted to know if I could ask Lily on a date. And this was like six months. go. And I said, well, buddy, you're stepping in the right direction here. I mean, I never heard of that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that as a 17-year-old kid. I like, too, the whole dad would call it yuppie, but definitely the urban way of asking is more the call of, hey, let's meet at Starbucks, you know, for a.

Well, Jep, it's funny you mention that because Mia had said that was a guy she wanted to go out with. And I said, well, here's my number. You give it to him. And I want to talk to him first. Guess what? He never rang. The relationship dissolved. So it is a good thing. I mean, that was my idea because I just thought I'll have a conversation. I was thinking on the phone.

But that ended whatever his intent was. I would think by now, having heard this conversation, the people in America, a lot of them were speaking to, would say, boy, when you get ready to start dating. their daughters, there is a vetting process second to none. Oh, yeah, which is smart. I told me of that, I said, if you, the next potential one, you tell him, I'll take him hunting. Because, you know, when they think, oh, it's her dad, guns are involved, we're going to have a conversation. Oh, they're out. Unless they have, you know, unless they're serious.

What did Stone say when he talked to some guy, his little daughter was dating? He said, had a little speech, you know. if I find out that you've hurt this girl anyway, I will kill you. No, he said, whatever. If you cause her any pain, I will bring that pain tenfold to you. He didn't want to scare, buddy. Well, that was too. I said, Jay, okay, there's a speech, and then there's that.

And there's an arrest warrant. All right, we're long on break, Jeff. Hang on. I want to take a quick break. And then I want you to tell folks how to reach out if they want to find out more about who your organization is. Let's take a quick break. You got it. All right.

So, Jeff, tell us where folks can contact if they'd like to check more out with All God's Children. So you can go to all godschildren.org. And right now we have, you know, of course, with everything going on, we have an emergency relief fund to, you know, try to get through these next few months. And really we kind of picked out kind of the most important things we're doing, which is we're doing a virtual counseling services for 200 children who are victims of sexual abuse and living in institutions. We're funding for 24-7 support staff for the girls quarantine at our dream home in Columbia, which I've been to. It's amazing. And then we have in-person wellness checks for 500 sponsored students. and that's in Ethiopia

in Guatemala. So those three initiatives is kind of what we're working on right now, kind of in this pandemic. So any help would be super appreciated. And, you know, thank you for,

let me tell about it. I'll send me some money. Look, send me a picture. I want to see those locusts what they look like. I know this is a side note, but I'm just,

I want to look. A plague of locust. Well, it sounds like Exodus. I want to see which version that is. Somebody says, me a note that watched their podcast and it mentioned the locusts deal there, all those fires,

remember in Australia? Yeah. And then the coronavirus, it was all hitting within the same year. And it said, boy, it looks to me like we got something going on here at a large sense. Well, it could be God asking a simple question, Jep. Do you see me now? Right. For sure.

There might be a little panic there. I mean, I know this. Everybody's trying to find out when God. Oh, this is the sign that God's coming back, but it says he's coming like a thief. So whenever you think he's coming back, guess what? That's not it. It'll be something else. Right.

Good talk, Joe. Yeah, anything else you want to say before we let you go? Love you guys. Miss y'all. I hope I get to see y'all soon. Well, I'm glad you weren't here physically. The next time you're in town, we'll have you on for a whole podcast. But I did, it was good to at least have you on now.

We've had Willie's been on here and Mom and Cy. so we're glad that finally our little brother made it on with us. So just know we're proud of you guys. Give Jess and the kids our love. Yep, you're doing a good work. Keep it up, man. You're doing a good work. Look, I may come down there and metal detect with you where you found the button.

Is that cool? Come on. You're always welcome. Let's do it. Awesome. All right. Love you, bro. Love y'all.

All right. Bye. Well, that was cool. Then what about that? Is that a good call? Is that a good surprise? Yeah, I haven't heard from Jeff. in a while. Well, I was going to surprise you guys. He was going to come over this week,

but then with all this going on, he just couldn't get away from work and stuff. So he wanted to just hang with us a little bit. So I said, well, we'll just call you. I said, I wouldn't have even known that was possible. We hadn't done the Jeremy Camp thing. And I was like, that worked out well, you know. And we could hear him and all that. Well, he's doing a good work. He's really, you know, matured and doing awesome. He had to kind of find himself. You know, the thing about it, he's the youngest. And I mean, we're like this family. is there's a lot of big personality, as you guys have noticed. And so Jet was the youngest and the quietest already. Well, you got to remember, he had to go through years of abuse from his older three brothers.

I'd say older, too. I never, you and Willie were the Jeff abusers, not me. The amount of pain that I inflicted on that boy is shameful. And I'm not saying that funny. It was terrible, you know, but that's what I'm glad you wise up, Jason. I really did, and I just grew up and said, you know, and in all honesty, I did the same thing to Jay's and Willie, so it was just a little bit of a, you know, it was a tradition. Y'all are part to blame because y'all, you know, I don't know where y'all are. If someone had told me that I would even be around and my oldest, my oldest son, I, all, you're 50 what? Five.

You're 55 years old. I can drive 55. I mean, it's a weird time because I thought, you know, I thought, you know, it's a little. mid-50s, I'm like, whoa. And now you look back, when I see video of you, like at 55, or some of the Duck Commander stuff, you still had pretty much a black beard, just a little gray in there.

You know, it's weird. Is there some of these older ladies of the church? This is very embarrassing to say. They keep coming up to me and saying, Phil, I just love you so much. They're mistaking you for me. And I'm like, oh, no problem, you know. Some of these older widder ladies that y'all felt the years,

and I'm like, I'm bling over to miss and say, they think I'm my dad. How does that make you feel, Joe? Oh. Yeah, the old, your beard, look at his beard out. I know. How much gray it's coming in the last. Somehow I think it's making you feel. This came so suddenly because I remember.

Well, it didn't. It's been years. You just, you're noticing it. life is a paper. It started off a little, and guess what? It just rapidly starts in it. Since I cut mine and regrow mine every year, every year, it's greater than the year before. So mine grew out pretty long this year, and I can't tell many people said, man, you're

looking more like your dad every day, which meant you're getting old. That's what people shave. I've figured it out. That's one of the reasons people shave. Because, see, Al, he can entertain the idea of denial by shaving and say, I don't have gray hair. That's right. Oh, it's there.

That's right. It's hiding. It's a hiding. It's a hidden trick. There's no doubt. It's just like hair follicles on top. Let's have a quick break and then we'll dive in. So we had a good visit with old Jepico, which is always good.

Jeff is really, like I said, he's hit his own little stride. It's spiritually everything. And he's a great daddy and Jessica, so we love him. He has great children. He does. And, you know, I miss him not living here because it was really cool. because he lived next door, well, two houses down from Jays and on our same street. And I miss that.

They still have their house. They just rent it out. Right. And, you know, it was kind of cool to have all of us right there together just any time you want to go see you. He's the only one that's left town. Yeah. He was the duckling that left the duck pond, as they say. But, you know, he left to do his food business and did great.

It made a pretty good amount of money doing it. But he realized in the food business that you're talking about a workhouse. You know, it's just you can't hardly do that long term. If you're doing all the cooking, running the business and all that. So after about two years of that, he thought, you know, I probably need to be looking ahead. So now he's in with a great group. And check those guys out because what they do is great work. So, Al, what can we learn from John chapter four?

Well, we led up last time to, you brought us right up to kind of the moment. Before we get back to that, I want to back up just a little bit from where we were before and reset the setting here. So it's in the middle of the day when, and by the way, in this culture, the women would go get the water, you know, from the well, you know, for a lot of different reasons for family, for, you know, livestock, everything else. And so in their culture in this period of time, especially, it was kind of a social gathering. You know, in America, you know, they'd gather to wash clothes or whether, you know, women getting together, kind of catching up, I guess, doing a little gossip probably. And it's interesting because Jesus is traveling, as we said. The Bible says in John 4, he's hot and he's tired. And so he sees this well.

It's Jacob's well, which, by the way. It's kind of a famous well. Oh, yeah. Well, they have the modern day Jacob's well now. Yeah, it's in a monastery. We didn't visit it, but I mean, I've seen pictures. But I always like it when you have history. Because this, you know, the Bible's a book of history.

It's not like, I think people that are not in Jesus, they tend to think it's some kind of collection of fairy tales. But no, you can ride over there and say, there's the well. Yeah. So it just gives it more credibility when you add up all these things. They try to find things that doesn't make sense, which are few, and they're just confused. but the overwhelming majority of these places are there to see and it gives you the picture of what's going on. And I never think that things in the Bible are accidental. I'm one of those kind of people when I study the Bible or I'm presenting something.

I look for the little things that a lot of people don't notice. And I found it interesting in this that this would be Jacobs. So now Jacob is one of the patriarchs of the Bible. He dug about three before we got the right one, the one that they kept weeding him out. Exactly. So it was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, out of all the patriarchs, and these guys are in the lineage of Jesus. I mean, these guys are the guys that started the Old Testament, the whole deal, is that Jacob was what I would call the most troubled of the early patriarchs. He wound up with four wives, and there's a long story how he got there.

He had 12 kids by four different women all trying to live together. You talk about a blended family. That family was a mess. And so his whole life was just chaos. And I thought it was interesting that it just so happened to be his well that Jesus visits this troubled woman at. I mean, there are things that interest me when I read the Bible. There's a lot of history that goes in with that. So this woman, Jesus wants some water.

He goes over this well. There's a woman there by herself in the middle of the day, which is unusual. She should have been there with the group that came out probably early in the morning. and while I was still cool. This is the desert where we're talking about these people are. So the question is, why was she coming out there by herself? Why would she not be with her little group that she would normally do? So you're already getting a little bit of idea.

This woman had some problems, right? Yeah. She's a flusy. She's a flusy. I mean, that's what the interpretation is. So Jesus shows up and knows. So he does the unthinkable from her perspective. She looks at him instantly knows he's a Jewish man.

And he asked her, he said, how about a drink of water? You know, you give me a drink, which violates everything that he would say as a Jewish man and as a rabbi. And verse 9 says that. Right. She's like, Jews. Well, she said, how can you ask me for a drink? For Jews do not associate with Samaritans. I mean.

So here's the interesting thing. And then once you get your take on this first thought before we get to the sort of the main piece. So Jesus says to her, hang on, let's take a break and then we'll do that. So Jesus says to her, if you knew the gift of God, this is verse 10, and who it is that ask you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water. What a statement. I mean, I just find that fascinating that that was his answer back to her when she says, why are you even, you shouldn't even be talking to me. me. And that's his answer. Because really, we view it as we're looking for Jesus in search of the Lord's way. Where can I find it? Or people share their testimony. They're like, you know, I found

Jesus in the strangest places and they tell their story. But really the whole time, he was looking for you. He finds you. But it's all about our perspective. It's kind of one of those moments where Jesus is saying, Boy, if you only knew who you were talking to, girl. That's right. It's kind of why John the Baptist in the previous chapter said he must become greater and I must become less. Because it is your perspective. You know, even the story in Luke 15 where you have the self-indulgent prodigal son. Going back to your Colossians text, Jace.

I mean, he's the God of the universe. and he's sitting down in the middle of the middle of nowhere next to a water well, and he's thinking, boy, she doesn't realize that, you know, I'm the one that makes dirt, water, and universes. Yeah, but my point is in that story in Luke 15, you had the self-righteous brother who still, it doesn't matter. And the parables really for him. Yeah, he didn't have a, yeah, that's who it's really about.

That's right. He missed it because it's still about him and his own right. righteousness. And it was a TBD. He didn't get his stuff worked out. So Jay's, I thought it was interesting because this was a great example of something dad used to teach us when we were kids about how Jesus operated. Dad, you called it directional dialogue. In other words, he would take a situation like this. I mean, it's about water, but then all of a sudden he's talking about living water. And, you know, he threw her a curve and he did it to get her somewhere. Look, that's the way I, the reason I always bring up these products, I know y'all think

it's funny because every time when I go to the grocery store number one I'm trying to buy groceries number two I'm looking at labels where they use spiritual principles to try to sell their crap look I'll give you two more that I just found this new craze now people are like we're not going to eat meat so there's two new products out here I know I'm chasing a rabbit but this is insane what they name these things the two hottest non meat listen to their names you have beyond meat. You all heard of that? No.

It's beyond. And then look, then you have impossible foods. They named it impossible. You can't make their stuff up. So it's like a meat substitute or something? Oh, yeah. It's like soybean burgers or whatever.

And so they're, oh, it's a crazy. Well, your brother's all caught up in this. Oh, I know. They're trying to. They're like, oh, it makes me feel better. You know, I'm like, okay. It's more for me.

me, I love people who get off into this because I'm like, that's the amount of frogs. You know, once you get off meat, I'm thinking, well, that's more for the rest of me. Because I don't want you. Trust me, when I tell you, if you, you know, the farmer's getting about seven bucks, a bushel. Yeah. This is a cheap form of so-called meat. That's for sure. Oh, I know.

But my point is, but they're trying to sell it by saying, this is just impossible. and beyond. Yeah, it's and beyond. In one of the, in one of the, you took some. It's soybeans and you're calling it meat. Isn't that what they? No, you're calling it impossible. We pulled off the impossible here.

We made a soybean taste like a deer backstrap. Well, guess what? No, that is impossible. You had it right. I know this is a shocker, but these soybeans, the way we put them together, it's like eating a fine rib eye. Impossible. We pulled off the impossible.

Don't they have one of the, isn't it the impossible Big Mac or the Impossible Whopper? One of the food things has that in there. That's what theirs is called for one of their standard hamburger. But you talk about what's going on here, though, when Jesus said, oh, if you haven't known who it is that asked you for a drink, he had a given you living water. Right. So now we're getting, you're like, whoa. What was her reply to that? She says, sir, you have nothing to draw with.

and the well is deep. So Jay, she had to put your rabbit hands up because it went right over her head. You know, she's still thinking about the water and the well. Where can you get this living water? Are you greater than our father Jacob, which is funny that she would say that, who gave us the well and drank from it himself

and did also his sons and his flocks and his hers? And he goes back to the directional dialogue. Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water, give him will never thirst that's my point i brought up about the impossible because you can take these these conversations even in grocery store and and you could get into the real you know i mean because i love toilet paper i mean that's the hottest thing going it's the greatest directional dialogue because it's like you see that role of eternal charm in or whatever it's called you know i'm like

it'll last you a month ha ha ha there is a way to live forever you know I mean, true eternity is found in Jesus. And I just think it's, I mean, what's the difference in having a conversation? It's what he's doing. It seems kind of silly when I say it. But we don't view this as silly because it's in the Bible. But it was a silly conversation. He starts talking about never thirsting and again.

If you drink this, well, I have like some special water. Well, most people, you're not seeing the absurdity of it because you've heard this story. But what he was doing was actually kind of absurd. Yeah. I mean, she's like, what? So look, but. And look at the next step. Look what happens next.

I mean, in fact, she might be saying, I think you've been drinking a little more than water. So here's what she comes back with after he gives her that last bite. And then I want you to watch what Jesus does. You talk about the go for the juggler. Sir, give me this water so that I won't get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water. In other words, I think she was being. I'm all in. You think she's being sarcastic?

No, I don't think so. She's like, yeah, I'll have it. Would you believe that? But she's a troubled woman in the middle of nowhere in the heat of the day. She's got a blah. I'll give you that. Naive, maybe. So here's what he says.

So here's his big answer. Now this is what. She's basically saying prove it. Yeah. And so here's what he comes back with. There's got to be a hint of sarcasm. Here's what he comes back with. He told her, go call your husband and come back.

You talk about left field. Where did that come from? He just got in her kitchen. is what happened with that one statement. Because the one thing she's ashamed about, Jesus went there. And then she says, I have no husband. And then he says, yeah, you're right when you say you have no husband. The fact is you've had five husbands and the man you're now with is not your husband.

So yeah, what you said is quite true. Just a little bit. Oh, by the way, I'll just give you a whole history here in about two seconds. So now it's gone from absurd to weird. Because now she's thinking, this guy's a stalker. well that's what I would think yeah well she's thinking I just ran up on him how did he know that he's been following me my life story how would he know that yeah she's thinking I tell you whoa whoa I was thinking stalker well else would you think well I think

she's beginning to think there's more to him she's thinking well then she got to profit because like yeah that was her next thing I guess her past would have been possible to stalk. So, you know, because now you're figuring it all out on the fly. It's like, okay, this is some kind, now it's making sense. Maybe that's why he has the boldness to eat, I mean, to drink, you know, with me in broad daylight. He's not up from the planet or he has some kind of special powers.

She's not sure what's going on. And what's interesting is I love her response. And to me, this really shows you how people think. So Jesus has just given her a little brief history. of her life and is not good. So instead of her coming back and saying, well, you're right, I'm a mess, whatever, she's going to go theological to Jesus. That's her pivot.

Watch. Sir, I can see you're a prophet. Now, now all of a sudden, we just went religious. Yeah. Well, because she couldn't think of how he would know that. That's right. There was no other way. But she also didn't want to have any more conversation about the whole living with the guy.

Of course. And that's not unlike any other, even religious person I know. That's my point. I've run upon it many a time. Oh, yeah. Thousands. You know, a Bible study breaks out while your life is a train wreck. I've had people argue with me, just start arguing, you know, like as I'm sharing Jesus with them.

And they were like hammered drunk the night before. Right. But now it's like that doesn't mean anything. We're talking theology now. And they're like, we're going to argue about that. You're wrong. I've told you this many time when I was in the prison system sharing. Jesus. They all wanted to argue about religion. Didn't want to talk about their life.

You bring up their life, look, crickets. You bring up religion, they'll argue and rant and rape. And so finally, I came up with a system of, I don't want to hear anything you got to say on theology because it didn't work. You're behind bars. So your opinion is now not relevant until you get out of here, and then we'll proceed. So anyway, so here's what she said. Our fathers worshipped on this mountain, talking about in Samaria, and she was right. It goes back.

It's a long story, but she was right. But you Jews. That was Mount Jurism, by the way. That's right. But you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem. So all of a sudden, we go from talking about the water to the husbands to the shacking up, to we're talking about worship. Where do we go to worship?

She pivoted right out And she Erase that line That sets people apart And now she's putting it right back That's right You know what she wants that division Maybe in a compartment

And like well We shouldn't even be talking Yeah what you're talking about I don't need to listen to you Because you on one side I'm on the other here In other words I think she's saying

What's the point? I mean you're a Jew I'm Samaritan This isn't going to end well The reason I brought up the geography too Because I think there's an underlying point here Or you can go look at Jacob as well, you know, but the whole point people miss because they'll take those sites over because I was at Israel. Well, they turn them into shrines, which is the exact opposite of what his point was.

That's right. Is that it's not, you don't deem the place. You remember when he told, because we talked about in John 3, the kingdom that Luke 17, 20, and 21, he said, the kingdom of God will not come visibly. People will not say, and I'm quoting the verse, it says people will not say, here it is, or there it is, because the kingdom of God is within you. Well, we know from John 3, what he had just told Nicodemus, that he was talking about the Holy Spirit.

Great. But here we are, 2,000 years later, and we point at church buildings and say, there's a kingdom of God right there. That's where you go worship. Or we look at Israel and say, well, there's the holy site, right there. So when we go in, you know, people like, they start whispering, you know, and you say, why are they whispering? It's a holy place. Well, it's a holy place. They do the same thing in church buildings. They're like, you can't, you can't drink a, you can't take a cup of coffee

in there. You can't take a bottle of water. Somebody's singing on the worst and some churches. I've seen them. They're like, oh, this is a holy place. I'm like, well, if it's that holy, we all need to get the heck out of here. Because we just made it. Because we're sinful. All right, let's take one last break and then we'll wrap this up. So, yeah, so the next line is the one Dad read last time, which set us up here, is that he's about to reveal. Here's what the thing is amazing, Jay. She brought this up last time. He's about to explain to this woman with nobody else around, Samaritan woman with a bad past,

that he is here to change everything they've ever known. That's right. Her people, his people, about worship, about her. how it works, about that it's not a place, that it's all... It was always about the temple, the temple, the temple. The Samaritans had theirs, the Jews had theirs, the temple, go to a place, the temple, make it look fancy, you know? That's right.

And who can enter it? Yeah, and who can enter it? That was a big point here. That's why, I mean, he didn't choose this Samaritan woman on accident. That's right. You know, he took one of the troubled pass from a different region where prejudice and racism was running rampant. Oh, they hated it.

trying to get her to see, and most people have missed this, by the way. But if you, when he, that next little text, you're fixing to read, Al, what he's saying, basically, is you're going to be the temple. That's what he was saying. And I'll just read it. Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you worship the Father, neither on this mountain in Samaria nor in Jerusalem, which that was a big statement. You Samaritans worship what you do not know.

We worship what we do know for salvation is from the Jews. So he wanted to get that lick in there that, look, it was set up for a reason. You know, all those years ago, you should have been going to Jerusalem. But anyway, yet a time is coming. In other words, who cares about that now? A time is coming and has now come, because he's there, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. For they are the kind of worshippers the Father seeks. God is Spirit, and His worshippers must worship in spirit.

and in truth. There's your Romans 12. Exactly. And it's incredible to me that, and Jesus is right, it wasn't by accident that he chose this woman to say this out loud because up to now he's only hinted at it a little bit with Nicodemus and with these people at the temple memory. He said it'll be destroyed. But he tells it to this Samaritan woman.

And so that shows you that Jesus is no, no, every person in his mind matters just the same. It doesn't matter whether there's Samaritan woman. woman, Pharisee of the ruling council, everybody's there for him. I think there's an underlying point here too, which y'all may disagree, but this is a little deep. But he picked a woman also that had these six relationships, you know, five failed marriages, one live in. And the principle I think he's sharing with her is that Ephesians 5, you know, when it talks about husbands and wives, and everyone goes there,

and everyone has a different opinion, what that means. I've heard it. So many sermons on that. But you know what? Sermon, I haven't heard at Ephesians 5, which was, I think, his point. When he got down to the end,

he said, this is a profound mystery, but I'm talking about Christ and the church. His whole point was we're all married to Jesus. And so he was actually, in a way, presenting himself as the seventh husband. and not in a physical way because in fact you see how she responded she then became a voice, you know, for Jesus.

That's why why you're there, that last little statement, the woman said after Jesus told her God is spirit and his worshippers worship him in spirit and truth, I know that Messiah called Christ is coming. When he comes, he'll explain everything to him. So she knew, she knew, She knew about the Messiah.

Yeah, yeah. He's coming. So whoever you are, I'm going to give you some information. Oh, I love that. I'm glad you brought that out because I love this conversation. And Jesus declared, I who speak to you am he. I'm the one. I like the way he said it.

I mean, it's amazing. That's amazing. That's your bumper sticker, Jay. Am he. I who speak to you am he. It's just the way he put that. Yeah, really. I just like that slogan.

So he finally identifies himself. and she's like, whoa. So we're out of time for today, but next time when we come back, we're going to pick that up because I want to finish out the story to show you what happens. And also what happens on the disciples, because disciples hadn't been watching all this, and they're going to show back up. And I want to show you how they missed.

I mean, we'll go in different directions, but I will say this. If you learn anything from this chapter, don't share your testimony, share gods. That's right. It's what he's done is the key. know, and changing us. So good stuff. We'll see you next time. The place is wherever you're standing.

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