Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 782 | Jase Gets Punished for a Good Deed & an ‘Unashamed’ Fan Saves the Day!

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Jase has returned from recent travels with fresh stories of his own feats of derring-do, though for all his efforts, he’s rebuffed by airline staff and deemed by Phil to be an unfavorable travel com...panion. Zach is saved by an "Unashamed" fan in the middle of nowhere, and the guys get into a fiery discussion about the “third temple” and the coming of the Lord. The guys delve into the rich history of those who’ve divined the end of days and what scripture has to say about the once and future kingdom of Jesus. In this episode: Luke 17, verses 20-37; Exodus 25, verse 8; Matthew 24; Daniel 7; Galatians 3, verses 15-28; 1 Kings 6, verses 11-14; Hebrews 3, verse 6; Matthew 9, verse 25 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. So we got the game back together. Jason's back. He's full of stories. I would say, I would ask if y'all missed me, but I realized why y'all were doing what you did. Yes, I was, I filmed for, I think it was nine days. You zoomed in for one episode and maybe part of another one, and then you had to go. do your stuff so. And y'all were so accommodating and I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Well, we got an upgrade on the, well, I figured it out. Number one, you had Sadie coming in. So it was an upgrade. They were like, you're taking Jason's spot and Zach went, who? Because he was realizing that way more people go to watch. It was the merging of empires all into one spot. And then another thing is we spend so much time together doing the podcast, it's almost like a second marriage of sorts.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And it reminded me in my first marriage that every once a while, I can tell my wife, she just needs a break. She just, it doesn't have to be very long. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. That's right. You know what? I can't blame her and I can't blame y'all. So I'm back.
Starting point is 00:01:25 He's back. So Zach, what have you been doing? You got anything interesting to kick us off of her? You know what? I do because I love Unashamed Nation. You guys are amazing. And you don't realize how powerful this community is until, well, let me back up a little bit. About two months ago, my son, Max, is changing the tires out on his truck.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh, boy. But he's got the jack out. He's got two jacks out. And one is out of my truck. And the other was out of our, Jill's minivans. He's got a Honda Odyssey. And I knew in my gut that he's not going to put that back. I knew.
Starting point is 00:02:07 That's going to wind up in the garage and a pile of junk. And somewhere down in the future, Jill's going to break down, or I'm going to break down the flat tire. And that jack's not going to be in there. And so I told him, I said, hey, when you get done with that, you put that jack back exactly where it goes. And then in the Honda Odyssey, it's in the center. You pull up the rug and there's the tire and then all the tools are right there and they're with it. Well, guess what? That day happened.
Starting point is 00:02:39 He didn't put it back and I'm driving down the road going to a football game. I'm two hours from my house in the middle of nowhere in North Carolina. And all of a sudden I hear the noise. So I pull over. I got a flat tire. It's 5.20 p.m. Friday night. I get out, I get the spare tire out, I pull out the little styrofoam thing that has the, that's supposed to have the tire tool, and guess what's not in there?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Shocker. Shocker. It's your too. So I'm sitting there. But you realize it's your fault because they're only as good as you disciplined them. Our kids do what they see. They learn from what they see, not from what you say. And that's what so infuriating about it, Zach.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You could only blame yourself. No, that was Jill. I take care of stuff. I'm telling y'all. I love my life. Counseling. Yeah, well, that was that, they got that from their mom. And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, and it's so funny, I'm like, what am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Because I mean, so I tried to call AAA, but I can't. I mean, they're like, yeah, well, you're too far out. And, oh, boy. And I get on the map. And I'm like, where am I, where am I even at? And so I'm about, I don't know, 10 miles from. a town called, I think it's called Lincoln. And I'm telling you, it was like the Holy Spirit just spoke to me.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And he reminded me of a person who listens to this podcast who had reached out to me probably two or three years ago. They wanted to get baptized. And they're like, I want to come to your church and I want to get baptized. And I'm like, no, you need to get baptized in a local church where you can like join the church, be a part of. And I helped this lady find, I think I've told the story in here before. I helped her find a local church. She joined, was baptized. Her husband was joined.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And then all their family came. It's an incredible story. And I remember that they live in this town. And so I tracked down their number and I texted her. And they were literally two miles. They lived like two miles down the road. And so they came with a tire tool, change my tire. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I mean, that's unashamed nation, no matter where you're at. You're two miles away from hell. This is like Dad's wedding story. I mean, it's just all right there in front of you. Guys looking out there. Yeah. That's a man. He is.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Phil's wedding story was pretty epic. He found a location an hour and a half away without any. Across three pairs of technical aid. So these people came to your rescue. They brought you a tire tool and fixed your help you. Yeah, Deidre and Rick. Deidre and Rick. I mean, I'm telling you, we got people, y'all.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I mean, no matter where you're at, we need to have a hotline so that we can contact everybody. But I luckily had a little- Unashamed Nation hotline. That'll be our new thing. While you were doing that, I was coming back to Louisiana. And I had to get up. I had to fly.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I had to drive to Philadelphia. I'm in Maryland. Fly from Philadelphia. This all happened at the wee hours of the morning, you know. And it was me, who was on the flight back? Me and Murray and our director, Jenna. And so I was so excited just, you know, I hadn't been here in so long. And so I was sitting in the front of the plane, last leg, Atlanta to Monroe.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Excitement is brewing. And a woman comes on the plane, and her. bag was too big to fit in the overhead bend. Oh, yeah. That's every flight. Because Monroe plane, that last leg, we get little plants. It's tiny. And the bags that are acceptable to airplane status will not fit on these little planes.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Let me just tell you guys, if you're ever coming here, backpack is as big as you can put above you. So, and I'm, even though I left for eight or nine days, I will never check a bag. So I'm traveling light, which was a challenge to be gone that long. The clothes I had on, they were dirty. It's just the way it was. So, but anyway, I see an opportunity here. Nice woman sitting one seat back on the other side of plane. And she just said, it won't work.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So I got up and said, oh, I'll make it work. So I crammed that thing in there and closed the latch. And I could tell, you know, it was a good deed. Everybody was, you know, it was feeling good. Immediately when I close that hatch, the intercom comes on. And it was a tone that I've never heard from a stewardess. If you have a bag that's too big for the overhead, do not cram it in there. You can get a pink.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So then the plane went silent because everybody just saw the struggle. And I thought, she doesn't like me. The only thing she left off is, that's you homeless man in 6A. I mean, she literally did everything but call you out. She called me out. Very passive, aggressive. That was very passive, aggressive. That's aggressively passive aggressive.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's right. My face turned red, but no one saw it because of the beard. And so that woman kept looking at me like, big eyes, thinking, now what do we do? Because she's pretty much called you out. And I'm like, I just motioned with my mouth. I said, don't open my bed. Whatever you do. Because it's going to be a mess anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:29 So now for one hour, when I should have been preparing for the podcast, which is what I normally do on airplanes, I'm thinking, I've got to get that bag out. Because she can't, she's unable. And we got to go down that road again. Oh, yeah. It's going to happen again. And it's like so... You're going to get the scorn look again.
Starting point is 00:08:51 As soon as we land, I, you know, as soon as we come to a complete stop, I jump out. You know, I'm like fighting my way out of a crowd. And I get up there and I start wrestling the beast out. And I thought, well, that's my good deed for the day. Yeah. You know, I was feeling pretty proud of myself. Because when I looked up and saw the stewardess, it was like fire was coming out of her eyes, you know. She was hating on you for that whole flight.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. So I was so proud of myself that right before I stepped off the plane, I was literally mid-step. She's already giving me the glare. She didn't say thanks for flying. Hope to see you soon. Nothing. I realized that in all the chaos, I have forgotten my back.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Oh, no. The walk of shame. Oh, man. You can't go back on, can you? Well, I didn't step off because that's what she said. I turned around and come back. She said, you can't come back on the plane. I said, hey, I never got off of it.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I said, I left my bag. And she's looking at me, realizing now she's putting all the pieces together. You spent all that time doing what I said don't do. And now you left your bag. You left it. She thought I left the beast of the bag. And so she's like, well, where is your bag? You know, I just kept walking.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And so I got up my bags, the only one left. People were, they're being nice to me because I helped this woman. The whole plane, you're a hero to everybody on the plane except one person. Yeah. And then, so I have to now experience the second glare because now I have a bag that was not the one I put on there. So now she's, I feel like she's fixed to call security thinking he's been handling a bag that he didn't take off the plane. So now I'm nervous walking out. thinking the ATF's fixed it, swore me.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And so I go to the parking lot. It's been nine days. I can't remember where I parked. But I'm going and I go to my truck and I'm pushing the gas tank because I put my key in the gas tank. And if you're thinking about stealing my truck, there's cameras. I knew that they were cameras. I was like, if somebody realizes because I didn't want to lose my key in nine days, but it won't open. So I turn around, there's a guy standing there.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And he's like, can I help you? And I said, no, unless you know how to get this gas tank open. He said, that's my truck. I said, hit the analog. I bet it doesn't have to get an open release. Yeah, I hit this, my keyless entry here. Yeah. I bought a truck and I got it all wigged out, this company, you know, they tricked it out or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Angry spider. And they did it, so I would do a commercial. It was great. So I felt like, oh, I have one, there's only one truck like mine out there because they did all this stuff to it. So I got a, you know, so I feel like nobody's going to steal my truck because it's, they'd have to do a complete overall. So now this has gotten embarrassing because I look about two. two spaces over and I see a truck that looks a lot like the one I'm trying to break in here. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But then he said, Jace, I know you have a similar truck. Well, he knew how I was. I was like, thank the Lord for this because I really want. Now I've got somebody else's bag. Now I got somebody else's truck that I'm breaking into. I mean, you're one minute from Munro PD swooping in on you. So I finally got to my truck saying, thank you, Lord. I popped the
Starting point is 00:12:42 unlock button I opened the door and immediately started gagging because now I'm like something has died in my truck over the last nine days and I did a rewind in my mind
Starting point is 00:12:55 I bought Chick-fil-A on the way to the airport and I ate a little breakfast meal they had little chicken minis I remember it because I got an argument about they only sell chicken minis in fours and tens they said do you want the four or the ten i was like you need a seven
Starting point is 00:13:13 so we're representing the spiritual context here seven perfect number you know four is not enough 10's too many how about seven because i was still angry over them not uh doing the well-done fries anymore and uh but anyway which is your fault because you told unashamed as i did i did so i get the ticket minnies I had to hash browns, well, I got an accompanying fruit bowl that I forgot to eat. When I looked in that bag. It's always the fruit that gets left. In nine days in Louisiana, apples, blueberries, what else do they put in their little wines?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Strawberries. It was a pure liquid. I could not believe it. Of course, I'm gagging. you know chunk that and I said now I'm ready to go home let's take a break
Starting point is 00:14:14 and you wonder an ashamed nation why we send them out remind me not to travel with me well I I described it jays when you were gone
Starting point is 00:14:33 because I was like Jay's like I travel I do planes all week but I can go and not have anything like this, but Jays will go, and it's always just the craziest setup that always gets him. Oh, I don't like it traveling by a plane. Well, I was fun. You hadn't been on a
Starting point is 00:14:53 commercial plane. Used to. Fairly decent, but now. The spiritual application is when you try to be unselfish and do, I was trying to do something good. You will be persecuted. You're just going to be persecuted. So I got upset about the glare, and then I thought, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, them fixed to... And I have to say, because I do a lot of air travel, that post-COVID, it is a roll of the dice with the flight attendants. A lot of them are great, but some of them just, I don't know. They really came out of that not happy in general, and they are rough sometimes.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's never really aimed at me before. Sometimes it'd be like, I've got to go to the bathroom, and they're kind of, you know, you need to go sit down. I'm like, no, I'll assume the risk because I don't want to clean up on aisle four. So I did realize that I needed some rest also. It had been a long trip. I was sleep deprived and I was distracted. But, you know, we're humans.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We do things that are stupid and it was a good humbling experience. Romans comes to mind. Don't think of yourself more highly than you all. But it all worked out in the end. It all worked out. You made it. You got back. You got the dead, the rotten fruit out of your truck.
Starting point is 00:16:10 All is good. And now we're back to study the book of Luke. Yeah, we had to have some fun because this is a difficult passage. I mean, there's so much stuff out there. Whenever you, it's like you're reading all these parables. You're reading about Jesus and seeing his character. And then all of a sudden, you get into these passages, and I think we did this. We kind of teased it the last time we were all.
Starting point is 00:16:40 altogether. Yeah, three or four podcasts ago. Four podcasts ago, yeah. So you have a, if you read the caption in Luke 1720, you know, the interpreters, translators, which these captions are not part of the original text. Yeah, if there's captions in your Bible, those were not part of the original. That's just somebody breaking it down for you. So here in Luke 1720, above verse 20, in italics in bold letters, it says,
Starting point is 00:17:10 the coming of the kingdom of God. And so you would think since Jesus started this off, and we've read it and gone through it many times, he was like John the Baptist in one way that they both said as part of their arrival in ministry, the kingdom of God is near. Yep. The kingdom of God is near. The kingdom of God is near. Repeatedly over.
Starting point is 00:17:40 This is what the kingdom is like. This is what the kingdom is like. And then we just read one recently that said the kingdom of God is within you. Matthew, was that Matthew 19? Yeah, one of the recent podcasts. No, that's 21, Luke 1721. Because the Pharisees, yeah, the Pharisees. Oh, yeah, that's the one we're getting to.
Starting point is 00:18:00 That's right. But there's others, other gospels. Matthew, I believe Matthew Mark and Luke. have this similar phraseology. Correct. And even in Luke 9, the one I keep reading over and over, when it says Luke 927, Jesus said, I tell you the truth,
Starting point is 00:18:22 some who are standing here, and he's talking to, is he specifically talking to his disciples? I think so. Talking to his disciples, I tell you the truth, some are standing here. Will not taste death
Starting point is 00:18:36 before they see the kingdom of God. So what we're going to attempt to do is ask this fundamental question. Is Jesus talking about the final coming, or is he talking about this coming in judgment in what happened to Jerusalem in AD 70 or both? Yep. That is really the issue in the religious world. Correct. And another passage, I would say a more famous passage about this is Matthew 24. Yeah, which when we studied Matthew, we got into it pretty good on that too.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Well, let me just read a couple of the verses. Then we can read the Luke 17. Yep. And I think today's podcast we've decided to go deeper into this. Well, what's causing all the arguments and why is this confusing? And is this symbolic speech or is this literal speech? Which coming are we talking about? Is there, because people say, well, there's only one, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So I just, I picked out a few verses, I thought. So Matthew 24, now above the heading here in Matthew 24, look what they put here. This is interesting. They put signs of the end of the age. Now, whatever you're fixed to read, whoever put that there, they think this is the end of the age. But then I would say, is it the end of the mosaic hub of the temple being in Jerusalem? Or is this the end of the age as far as earth itself?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Humanity, right. So let me read verse one of Matthew. 24. Now watch this close though, and you'll see my point. And the reason I want to read from Matthew is because when he says Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. Now, no matter what we're fixed to go here, we have a specific context of what's fixed to happen. He walked away from what temple? the one that was in Jerusalem and was built in
Starting point is 00:21:07 let's see, when was the second temple built 516 BC Sure he was walking away from that one Yeah now it was destroyed in AD 70 Which by the way I did this little Research to help us in this The first temple was built
Starting point is 00:21:23 Does anybody know? Solomon Well you know who built it but when King 6 It's 1st King 6 It's 1st King 6 You're like the Pharisees, Zach. I'm asking you when, and you're telling me where.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Well, I'm trying to, I'm rooting it in scripture so that I can get a... I'm kidding. 9.57. I was going to say a thousand. All right. When was it destroyed? 586. Right, which is when they went into captivity.
Starting point is 00:21:50 By the Babylonians. Right. Now, here's what's interesting. 70 years later, it was rebuilt. Correct. 516. Right. that came out of the Ezra Nehemi age.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Now, the second temple was destroyed in AD 70. Now, so you're immediately, before I continue, the Matthew 24, well, when was the third temple built? There is no third temple. There is no third temple. You're right. However, they're trying to figure out how, and the reason there's no third temple is because due to the land, which they, has now been divided now it's
Starting point is 00:22:37 half of that mountain is controlled by Islam. It's a mosque over there. So now you have a wall. Yeah, I was there. I stood at the point. So now you have, isn't it interesting? There's a wall there. But now look, they're trying to
Starting point is 00:22:51 build a third temple. I think it's important to lay a foundation of before even. I love where you're going with this, by the way. But why does the temple even matter? And I'm going to give you three I'm going to give you three, three scriptures, actually two scriptures. I'm going to give you a summation of the first part and then two scriptures to highlight the importance of the scripture.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Because as we build this out, you're going to see about this third temple. It's going to be very powerful. But when you go to the point of the temple, a lot of scholars believe that the first temple was actually the Garden of Eden. that it's a so when you get into all you know these descriptions of whenever he gives descriptions on how to build the tabernacle and exodus 25 and then the description on how to build the temple later which became a permanent place of go but when he gives the descriptions of all these things that we read and why's all that detail in there those are all representative there's so much in there that's representative of the garden and so it's this idea that this is a place where god's presence is so when you get to uh uh um Exodus chapter 25, whenever he gives instruction to build a tabernacle, he says, let me pull it up here, 25, 8, and let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell in their midst. So the point of the temple, this is so key, the reason why God gave the tabernacle and the temple was because he wants to dwell with his people. That's the tabernacle, which was a mobile, it was a mobile temple as they were going through the wilderness. They would construct it, and then they would tear it back down, and that's where God's presence would come.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So fast forward to when they have an established nation, and he gives this commandment to David to build the temple, but David never did it, but his son, Solomon did. And in 1st, King 6, verse 11, it says, now the word of the Lord came to Solomon, verse 12, concerning this house that you are building. if you will walk in my statutes and obey my rules and keep all my commandments and walk in them, then I will establish my word with you, which I spoke to David, your father, and I will dwell among the children of Israel and were not forsake my people. Verse 14, so Solomon built the house, built the temple, and finished it. So the point, I think it's key that as we move forward into this, is the point of the temple was this is, this is, where God dwelt with his people.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It was in a temple. Well, it's weird how you're reading my mind knowing where I was going to go because I believe the reason this war is going on for this third temple in this battle is because if you take Jesus out, if you take him out of the equation, well, of course you're having a battle in a war over getting the temple up and running again. Because I believe, in this most profound statement I want to make, I believe that Jesus living in people is the third temple.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Correct. And now I have some verses for that. First Peter 2, 4 and 5. We're being built into a spiritual temple. You know, all those verses. Hebrews 3-6, we are his house. you know speaking of the contrast between jesus and moses why jesus is better than moses you remember the hebrews three that that is it yep so the the scary part of this when you go on this road and
Starting point is 00:26:41 you're like well wait a minute now well what about the people of israel you just saying that they were destroyed in 8070 and they have no chance well you remember in galatians three paul made that argument he basically realized how this was looking and so just because Jesus fulfilled the law and the temple, their
Starting point is 00:27:07 place of worship, was destroyed in AD 70, it's interesting that Paul's argument was saying that this was based on a promise not this, what would you characterize it,
Starting point is 00:27:23 not a keeping of the mosaic tradition or I read Jim McGuigan's commentary and Daniel because we're fixed to get there. He called it something, but I can't remember what the phraseology was. It's like the mosaic commonwealth. That wasn't the word, but it was something like that. Because my point is, in Galatians 3, watch what it says in verse 15. Brothers, let me take an example from everyday life. just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established,
Starting point is 00:28:03 so it is in this case. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed, the scripture does not say into seeds, meaning many people, but into your seed, meaning one person who is Christ. What I mean is this, the law introduced four and 30 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the law. the promise. So if I just stop it, my point is, God made a promise to the Israelites through Abraham that through them, Jesus was coming. Correct. Now, if they don't want to acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God, you know, that's on them, but that doesn't nullify
Starting point is 00:28:47 that just because the temple was destroyed, that they now have no access to God. Because that's what a lot of Israel lives. Well, that's what Paul's point. I mean, think about Paul's argument in Romans. I mean, I've always, I hate it when people get into like a conversation on Romans 9, 10, 11, and they want to make that whole part of scripture about predestination and election, because I don't think that's Paul's primary point. No. Paul's primary point there is I'm trying to arouse my people to jealousy because the Gentiles have been. been grafted into this promise. And so it's actually exactly what you're saying. It's,
Starting point is 00:29:29 it's, it's, there's a new, uh, there's a, God is a God of the covenant. He's made a covenant with his people. And what's interesting about the covenant that you just mentioned in Galatians 3 is that that covenant was a one way covenant. It wasn't a covenant of performance on the part of the people, which typically you go into a covenant like that. So if you do this, then I do this. And then here's the agreement that we're making. But when God made the covenant with, Abraham, your memory said cut the animals in half. And the idea was you walk through those animals that are split in half. You walk through that.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And what you're saying when you walk through that blood bath, you're saying, if I break this covenant made this happen to me. That was how they made a covenant back then. And think about that before you go forward. If you look back at Genesis 12, all Abraham did was answer the call. to follow God to a place he did not know where he was going. That's all he did. That's all he did, which is exactly what we do.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He didn't perform. And so when he made the, when God made the covenant with him, though, the Bible says that the spirit moves through the center of those animals cut in half. And the idea is that God is saying, I'm making a covenant with you. And if you break this covenant, made this happen to me, which is the gospel. And then that promise that you're talking about, it's so key to this. Because we've been going through the book of Isaiah at our church, and it's all through the book of Isaiah, by the way, which is the one scholar said Isaiah is the Old Testament Romans. And it is. I mean, it's so powerful.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But it's this idea that when God makes a promise, which he did make a promise to Abraham, the delivering of that promise is going to be impendent. bigger than anybody could have imagined when he made it. And it is bigger. And so there's this whole idea of this temple that we're talking about here, this eschatological temple, is God is calling all nations, all nations, Jews and Gentiles to flow up the mountain of Zion and to worship him and to dwell in where God will dwell with his people. I mean, that is the overarching theme of kind of where all this is moving towards. I agree. Let's take another break.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Three years, it's coming. It's coming. And it's near. It's coming. It's near. It can't be here until the death of Jesus. He's got to die before the kingdom can come. That's what they're saying for three years.
Starting point is 00:32:16 They're stacking it up. When you get to Acts post-resurrection, post-death of Jesus, it never comes up again or where it is. It is embraced for being there. No more close. No more almost here. Y'all are in it now. It just starts.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And it was two texts. That's Acts chapter 1. When they met together, they asked him, Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel? Look, he brushes that off like nothing. Because they had no idea what had just taken place with the death of Jesus because they all took off running when he was killed. But he said to him, it's not for you to know the times and dates the father set by his own
Starting point is 00:33:07 authority, but you're going to receive some power here when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you'll be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea, Samaria, to the ends of the earth. The kingdom will be here, but they don't even have understood it right here. but Paul begins to preach, and the gospel he preached was the gospel of the kingdom. I mean, but Jesus had to die. That's why it was near, and it's not going to begin here until the one who brings it. It's right there. It was there because it couldn't be called a kingdom until he becomes the king.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So who is that? Yeah, that's a good point. He's the king. Well, if you're a king, you've got to have a kingdom. Well, we're hit. And it started in Acts chapter two. Yeah, I was thinking, Jason, when you were reading, was it Matthew 24 earlier? And I'm eventually going to get back there.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Y'all are reading. We said we were going to dive deep today. We may have to have a part two. But go ahead. I see part two coming. Well, I was just going to make the comparison of Mark 24, I mean, Matthew 24 to Mark chapter 13. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And you're right. That's enough. I'm going to hit that in just a second. So I think wait for that. But I just wanted to say back to Paul's argument, because we're not, you know, especially in these days, God's not given up on Israel or we're not saying, you know, oh, when that temple got destroyed,
Starting point is 00:34:42 the fact that it's never been rebuilt, even though they're trying to. And if you want to really research it, I mean, I'll watch probably seven or eight YouTube videos about when the third temple is going to be. be rebuilt and I mean they I watch one where the guy they had an expert and he thinks he's found the ark of the covenant and it's under that wall yeah so once we get the land back we're gonna because he used some kind of sonar deal and there's like there's a cubby hole in here some people from
Starting point is 00:35:14 Nebraska they shot through the wall and I saw that and so which by the way is a movie movie idea alert before I read this. Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Art, you remember that? Oh, yeah. And it had a lot of, it created a lot of interest in where is the Art of the Covenant.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It really did. Yeah. But you do that, Zah, you come up with the Indiana Jones, you know, so whoever that is, you know, rock. The rock. Rock somebody.
Starting point is 00:35:49 He's, you search for the, the arc of the covenant, but the movie ends at an empty grave. You know, Jace, you told me, hold on a second. See, now you got me interesting because you, we had a conversation. You find the arc and it ends at an empty grave and you say, oh, I think we found something better. That's good.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Hey, you know, you told me years ago that you had an idea and I think you may have written something. Yeah, I have a script that's been on my table for 10 years. I do. He told me about it, and I was like. He said, I have a script. Think I wrote it and I couldn't get any takers. Really, I'd never got a response. People that I've let read it were speechless.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So. There you go. I want to read that. I think this is the time. I actually did. I think it's a moment. I got a successful movie. A successful movie now.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I've got to type some loose ends here. So Paul's argument, though, when he gets to verse 26 and 28 of Galatians about this. Galatians 3. Yeah, he said, you're all sons of God, you know, through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you are baptizing Christ, have closed yourself with Christ. There's neither Jew nor Greek. And then he gets into chapter 4 in verse 6, which is, you know, the next section we're going to get into in Luke 18 is about this same kind of. relationship with the father, the adoption as sons, this father, son relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I mean, there's no, Paul is literally reciting where we're at here in this argument. Correct. No doubt about it. And even used an instance in Abraham's life with the two women in Abraham's life as a way to illustrate his point, which is fantastic when you think about it. I mean, brilliantly done. At order to have a kingdom, first, Paul.
Starting point is 00:37:52 You got to have a king. Faith. Exactly. There it is. And it's not concrete and boards and wood and things hanging. Well, we're going to get there. We're going to get there. But first, I just want to show you that in Matthew 24, contrary to a lot of scholarly belief,
Starting point is 00:38:14 when Jesus said in verse 2, do you see all these things? Now, they called the disciples, they were walking away in the temple, disciples came up, they called his attention to its buildings, to Phil's point. Jesus said, do you see all these things? Yes, I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another. Everyone will be thrown down. Every one will be thrown down. That sounds pretty specific.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Now, how many years later, after he made that statement, was the temple and all those buildings were they destroyed? 40 years. 40 years later, Titus and the Roman, you know, that's why a lot of people, who believe what we believe believe that this Titus from the Roman prince was the you know the antichrist basically yeah and and that's where they get this from because this happened you remember also in John too when Jesus said hey remember when they were talking about destroy this
Starting point is 00:39:15 temple and I'll I'll raise it up after three days and they're looking around saying it's crazy but Jesus was talking about himself so let me just read a couple of of other passages from this because then he gets into this symbolic language of sorts thrown in. And I just want to pick a few verses. You can read it all in your own time. I wrote these down. Verse six. For some reason I wanted to read verse six. It says, you will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you're not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Now, the reason I'm reading, that is, whether you believe what we're presenting or not, as the destruction of Jerusalem,
Starting point is 00:40:03 being a part of what he's discussing here, you can't deny the fact that he's, look, he came from the temple. They had a conversation, and he very well could be in this particular instance referring to this wars and rumors of wars, because what happens today in modern religion when wars and rumors of wars happen. Everybody said, well, get ready. The kingdom's coming. There are a lot of religious people who say that. And I'm just saying, just hang on because what if there's something that in time that Jesus was referring to in this instance.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So I want to read verse 14 for whatever reason. and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations and then the end will come. So you're like, well, what is it? What end is he talking about? Because now it seems like he shifted maybe. So somebody will make the point. Okay, well, he was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:41:16 because he was saying no buildings. But then you have this. Well, maybe he's including that. I was just giving some bits and pieces. But then in verse 15, he kind of clarifies that and says, So when you are standing in the holy place, the abomination that causes desolation spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Uh-oh. We got specific. Well, what I would do, if I read something like that, right on the hills of such a drastic statement of the end, in coming and the kingdom coming, because we have all that covered in just the three verses I read, I would go back to Daniel and say, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He said, because it's almost like a record scratch moment. What is the abomination that causes desolation? So I'm going to read it in Daniel in the future, but I wanted to get a few other verses of Matthew 24 before we begin that discussion. So if you go down to verse 21, Because you're going to see these quotes in Daniel. For then, for then there will be great distress unequered from the beginning of the world until now.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And never to be equaled again. Whatever is fixed to happen doesn't sound real good. In fact, in verse 19, he's talking about how dreadful it'll be, you know, for pregnant women and nursing mothers and pray. It's a bad time to be alive. It just sounds. So verse 22, if those days had not been cut short, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened.
Starting point is 00:43:01 That time, if anyone says to you, look, here's the Christ, or there he is, don't believe it. For false Christ and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles. So I want to skip down to verse 27. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will so will be the coming of the son of man. Where there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. We're fixed to read that in Luke. You read down to verse 31,
Starting point is 00:43:31 and he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather the elect from the four winds from one or the other. So, you see all this, and you say, what does it all mean? So if you go back to Daniel, now the two that we always read. Daniel two. Yep, Daniel two. Daniel had a dream.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I mean, Daniel interprets the dream. In verse 36, it says this was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. You old king of the king of kings, the God of heaven has given you dominion and power, might and glory in your hands. He is placed in your hands. and he goes through this and so you skip down to verse where am I looking for
Starting point is 00:44:22 well it's a statue that starts being built yeah their statue is the dream so when he explains it in verse 44 it says in the time of those kings God the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed nor will it be left to another people it will crush all kingdoms and bring them to an end
Starting point is 00:44:40 but it will itself endure forever so we know through history that that statue that was made, there's some nations that I didn't write down, but history followed exactly what he said. You can go through the nations all the way to Rome. It's the, it's the Babylonians, the Medo-Persians, the Greeks, and the Roman Empire, which was the mixed, the mixed clay with iron as the Roman Empire. and in those days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So, again, it's prophetic of the coming of Christ. Because all four of those empires were during the biblical era. So we can prove it by just looking in history as well as what the Bible says. So yes. So, well, let me just read these two verses, Zach, and then we can, just because I think I feel like if I don't, people are not going to connect while we're doing this. Because when he referred to Daniel, so, Daniel 7, 13, and 14, we then are introduced to Jesus as the son of man coming through this one.
Starting point is 00:45:50 All right. Now, if you go to chapter 9 where obviously you're going to see some of the same quotes that we just read. Jesus quoted. Matthew 24. Yeah, Matthew 925. Daniel or Matthew? Daniel. Daniel.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Okay. And really, you know, if you read the whole chapter, I think it would help. Which, by the way, we've already moved into the next era in this passage. Now we're in the Medo-Persia era when we get to Daniel and I. So there's a prayer. Daniel has a prayer. He does set the time period, which is consistent with when the first temple built, the second temple is destroyed.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And he gives a picture of that temple being destroyed. and he calls that the 70 days, but then he gives another picture of the 70s, which is going to be more awful. And so now a lot of people start crunching the numbers and nobody, no scholars ever figured out all these numbers and figured out to Jesus, you know. And so if it's symbolic language,
Starting point is 00:47:03 then all of a sudden you might think, well, maybe he was talking about, about the first temple and maybe we were talking about the second temple and then introducing the one who was coming who would be the temple Jesus because Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 everybody agrees oh yeah Jesus is coming he's bringing the kingdom but Daniel 9 why are we all of a sudden we've just moving about Jesus because what's what 25 says no one understand this from the issuing of the decree to destroy and rebuild Jerusalem until the anointed one the ruler comes there will be seven sevens and sixty two sevens it will be rebuilt with streets
Starting point is 00:47:46 in a trench and in times of trouble after the 62 sevens the anointed one will be cut off and will have nothing the people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary the end will come like a flood war will continue until the end and desolations have been decreed He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven in the middle of the seven. He will put an end to sacrifice an offering. And on a wing of the temple, he will set up an abomination that causes desolation until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. You say, what in the world have we gotten into?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Read it ten times. And just ask yourself, number one, who's the anointed one? who's the anonymous it has to be Jesus has to be Jesus and he just
Starting point is 00:48:40 broke up those numbers into three sections the seven the 62 sevens and then the one
Starting point is 00:48:47 seven if you do that math that's 70 and you're like well what's your point you know
Starting point is 00:48:54 if he's you either have to ask yourself is his literal or is this a symbolic view
Starting point is 00:49:02 of what's fixed to happen at that temple of the Jerusalem and there's going to be an anointed one come even when you look at the language of Jesus dying and apply it to here and they and they would have been looking at this for a long time. We're out of time obviously lots more to cover. We're going to flesh this out some more in overtime as well as on the next podcast. So if you want to follow us over to get a little more depth into this as BlacetTV.com slash unashamed is where our overtime is. We'll see you there.
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