Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 791 | Phil Was There for Elvis Mania & His Duck Dressing Passes to the Next Generation

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

Miss Kay and Lisa Robertson give up the goods on how the Robertson family behaves during holiday festivities, and Phil looks to pass down his duck dressing recipe to the next generation. The guys, Miss Kay, and Lisa discuss the warning the Bible gives to those who would harm children and how differently strangers treat each other now than in the past.  In this episode: Luke 18, verses 15-17; Matthew 18, verse 10 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We still got Jace out on mission story, fact-finding. Well, I can't say fact-finding mission because there's very few facts. But he is out there to find some stories. He's finishing up his little treasure show. So in his absence, we're having some special guest on it. Babe, what is the number one thing you and I are on the road a lot, especially here lately? What's the number one thing, Unashamed fans tell us when they first meet us and they're, oh, I listen to Unashame. What do they say is their favorite thing? What do we need more of? We hear from almost every person we talk to.

The women. More women. We like it when the women are wrong. More women. We love it with the wives. And so from your mouth to our ears, we have Lisa and Ms. Kay, mom. I'm wearing my camouflage. I see that.

Is this for Veterans Day? We just had Veterans Day. In honor of Veterans Day. This past weekend. Yeah. And they were calling it Cammo something. Cammo, what was the tagline? It's funny seeing a lot of people in camo that usually aren't in camo.

Is yours designer camo, mom? Yeah. I'm sure it is. Yeah. So what's the over and under? How much did that blouse cost more than $20 or less than $20? I don't know that she has anything that costs less than $20. Not clothes-wise anyway.

Thank you, Lisa. $20. I don't know about women's nation. I don't either. So I'm just saying, I don't have anything that costs this. It falls apart if it's too cheap and shrinks. I don't need anything to shrink. You need things that enlarge.

Yeah. Stay big. You buy it, let it stay that, son. We like to get expanding clothes is what we like. I like flexibility is what I like. Stretchable. Stretchable, there you go. Stretchy pants.

Stretchy pants. That's our favorite. Lisa's getting all skinny. She's been on a good diet. She's been losing weight. I've been on it with her, but I haven't been quite as successful as she has. And mom, look, what's out? I know.

The blind DVD. I know. I need to get some. I love that. Mom says, so I show them to her and she says, oh, can I get some of those? And I was like, have you done enough? Yeah. Have you done enough to deserve some DVDs, Mom?

I'll buy them wholesome. You don't have to buy them. I'm sure we can get them for. So we were mentioning before we came on Air Mom that how much the actresses look like you. Because there were three different actresses that played you from child to teen to adult. And I think the middle one probably looks the most like you With the smile and looks a lot like Silla and Jep smile But this older actress that played you

Yeah, she I don't know She was my favorite in the film Yeah, I thought so too I thought she Because all actors try to get as much like the person She just captured even the little things about me It was amazing She captured Kay Spirit

Yeah she did It was a and I didn't get to meet her So maybe one day I will but I just want to tell her she did a great job because she, I felt like watching the film, Mom, that she captured your optimism. I did too. So well, like, because it was going to be okay.

Like, it was all right. And even when you're starting to sense things are going off the rails, it's like, no, it's just okay. It's going to be all right. It's going to be good. I know. And I knew I was like that, but when you see somebody be just like you,

then you're thinking, I really am like that. It's really strange. And I love that the film highlighted your love for life magazine, that you've always had a commitment to reading life. I never have life. I don't even know where you can get it. I don't know that they even have it anymore. I mean, it was funny because so we're at the, I may have mentioned this before.

We're at the theater watching, and Lisa and I are a couple of rows behind Mom and Dad. They're laying in bed and mom's reading, the actress is reading a Life magazine. mom was like, I've never read one of those in my life. I know. I don't even know where you can get them. So, anyway, that's an inside joke. Mom, my mom doesn't know about Live magazine. I don't think they had.

What should it have been? What, what, do you even read? Good housekeeping. Good housekeeping. Southern living. Southern living. Okay. So if it had been that, you might have, because the rest of it.

I don't know at that age, she might have been reading teen beat. Ooh, or cosmopolitan. I always liked. Even when I was young. And that's why I like cooking with nanny and everything. I mean, I like things like that. Yeah. It's funny you said team beat because we had,

Kirk Cameron was on the last podcast. And I asked him about that because I was like, I mean, you were the guy with the posters, you know, you were too old, I guess, because we were married about the time that came out. But you had your little ones. Who is it from your era? Sean Cassidy.

Yeah. And then Leaf Erickson. Oh, yeah. Gareth. Leaf Garrett. Leaf. I think his name was Garrett. I think that was Leif Erickson.

But anyway, I don't know. You had your little posters and your little squealing. If I would have had one of you, that would have been in. Oh, yeah. If only I had known to make some posters like that. Yeah, we were so big, famous. Oh, yeah. Not.

I could have sold tens of posters. Oh, no, Leif Erickson is an explorer. Yeah. No, I wasn't into exploring. I don't know that there's any. Leap Erickson was too old for that. I think his name was Garrett. Leave Garrett. Okay.

Yeah. We get to that. I guess ours would be Elvis Presley. Well, I mentioned to Corr, I said, I guess Elvis started it with the squealing and the, like, the swooning and the teen girls. Dancing. Yeah, that was all, which that was your air. Were you an Elvis fan? Not that much.

You didn't like him? I like his songs. But you weren't, like, infatuated with it. No. Because as you were like, Lisa. Not my type. You had the real deal right here. Yeah.

You had your pioneer, man. Do you remember those days, Dad? Oh, he does. Like now, it took about this long. Yeah. So did you like Elvis when he first came out? No. So let me just.

You said you like that. Was it Blue Hawaii or something like that? There was one of those songs, and I told you I liked that. Well, didn't Elvis when he was super young? Probably gospel. era Elvis. Didn't he sing at the Louisiana hayride? I went to see. Freeport, Louisiana.

Some of my kin folks, young girl, some of them. But there was a few adults there, but we went to see Elvis. I remember they took a handkerchief and removed dust from a Cadillac. He drove up there in, you know. And I just remember them getting capped in a little dust, you know. Yeah. Well, you remember. Pretty good deal for Elvis because not only was it a momento for them, but he got his car cleaned, which is really, you know, important.

And you know, Rhonda Williams, our friend, got a necklace from Elvis Presley. She was at a concert. She was just a child. Yeah, and I think maybe he gave her something small. He took off the handkerchief. Yeah, that's what it was. Because he used to wear the handkerchief. Yeah.

Took off the handkerchief, and he, as he's giving it to her, and she's a little, what, ten? 10-year-old girl maybe at the time? Maybe seven or eight. I don't think I remember. A little young girl. And so she's been right there on the front row and she loves Elvis. Her mom loves Elvis. So he hands her, the hangarship with some woman snatches it away, you know.

And it offended Elvis. You know, he's trying to give it to a little kid. And so, you know, again, who knows. It's like people that should know better. Right. So then he calls her up on stage and then takes off his necklace that he was wearing, which was probably worth a lot of money. Yeah.

This would have probably been in the early, 70s maybe with Rhonda. She's almost our age. And put it around her neck, like try to take, you know, try to take this. And she kept it for a long, long time. And then I think she finally sold it or auctioned it or something. Yeah. She got a good bit for it.

She started a restaurant with it. Yeah, she did. So, you know, the good thing about Elvis, he was still funding the regime long after he had gone on, right? Which is good for Rhonda. She loved that. So tell me about what's going on in y'all's lives. I mean, this is, we hadn't had y'all on in a while. Hmm.

Well, for me, work. We've been traveling. You and I have been traveling. We just celebrated, Phil, listen to this. Al and I just celebrated 39 years of marriage. Last week. Can you believe that? Really, 40 years.

39 years. It seemed like only yesterday, didn't it? It went just like that. If it could be any more blissful, I would be a blister. Yeah. That's how blissful those 39 years have been. 39. 39.

So we celebrated that. And then. In a very low-key day. I mean, we were just, we didn't have much going on. Went to the beach. Shocker. We had B.K. with us. Which is funny, when you're 39 years of marriage and, you know, your grandkids, you just take them with you.

Yeah. Which is fun. Well, they're just part of you. Yeah. You know, it's funny about BK. She went with us last week. We went down to the Southern Lair. And she had just come off a deer hunting trip with her dad and Si and killed a deer that the head of that thing and the tines probably wouldn't fit on this table.

Oh, it was a huge. It was a massive animal. And so this still little bee cave, even though she's 16 now. And then I thought it was funny because then, so Lisa's working every day because she's trying to sell some houses down there. And so they said, she wanted to go get her nails did. And so I was the only one who could take her. So I went with her. So we went from killing a deer, deer massive animal to the nail salon in the same week.

So I'm sure Dad would have taken it. Oh, yeah, Dad would have done that. Well, Duck season opens this Saturday. The ordeal, Mom. Are you excited? You don't even really registered anymore. It doesn't even affect your life like it used to. Yeah, unless he wakes me up at 4.

in the morning, which I wish he wouldn't. He'll be so excited at first. You'll make noise, and it'll get quieter. So back in the day, it was an ordeal for mom because all the hunters would come to the house. Nightmare City. Blowing duck calls, laughing, telling stories. I really could have shot somebody if I want. Yeah, we've all mellowed through the years.

Yeah, now we've moved the operation over here. Oh, praise the Lord. This is kind of the gathering place here now, make coffee over here. We have eyes on the water we have over there. It's been a drought down in here. Everything dried up. I mean, literally dried up, everything. But I've always thought we...

We had to pump it all back in there. Well, I know it's costlier for now, you, Jason, Willie, we've talked about now on the podcast, pulling them into the pay regime. Which is hard. If I'm not mistaken, and it's been a while since I hunted regularly, but we've always done better on low water years, right? typically if we have water because then ducks we just we've got eyes on the hole this morning they showed up their deer hunting so they're sitting up they're elevated and binoculars and they were watching but this morning they saw mallards big ducks you know a lot of wood ducks flying around there that's good so there's more i pumped the water and i've been pumping about a month yep so after a month

pumping there's enough water to hunt we've got enough to hunt so Mom, people have asked us this before. You never, a lot of women hunt, and a lot of them hunt with their husbands. Like Martin and Brittany, they hunt together all the time. So, but you never were really into hunting. I'm not a killer. That's not a killer.

I can hardly kill a mouth. So you just didn't the whole idea. Now, we did film for the previous duck show, previous, the Bonelli show, we did a women's hunt days. It was you and Missy and Jason Dad, and then we hunted me, Jep and Willie, hunted with our wives

on another separate inside. But that's the only time you've ever been, wasn't it? Right. Was on there? Yeah. You didn't want to go back? I love how pretty it is.

I love seeing everything. But I know. I'm not crazy about a shoot. I wouldn't want to shoot a gun. I'm just not a killer. And do you like being cold and getting out there? No, I hate it. That's me.

And I put on so much clothes, I couldn't even, I was double my size. That's pretty good. I couldn't even move. Yeah, that's me. I'm not interested in getting up early. I'm not interested in listening to the sound of a gun being fired. Right. I'm not interested in getting cold.

But what about all the... Not interested in seeing snakes. What about listening to Jason's stories all morning in the... Gosh, now that would be the nail on the head. I would have to, I would have to get away. Lisa's like, miss you. She said, I can't listen to the podcast because of Jason's stories. Let's take a break.

Since Jason isn't here, Mom, so Maddie got him a toy that he loves. And this is, he loves doing this when Zach is on. Zach's not on today either. And when Zach uses a big word, or there are other ways to uses it, so this is more. Oh, my God. So that's his. That means he didn't know. That means he didn't know.

Crickets. Crickets. Well, I didn't even know you could buy that. Yeah. Maddie found it somewhere. And so we've got, supposedly we got another one for breaking news, Maddie. But we haven't received that one yet. I'll have a duck, a big pot of duck in dressing.

Oh, yeah, Thanksgiving. We usually have about, if you're running in a circle in a big pot, you'll have about at least seven or eight ducks up to 10 if they're small ducks like teal. Which are the best. And I'm the ones getting ready for that. Who's the only one that eats a duck? When Peter looked up, he saw this heaven open and something like a large, sheet being let down by on earth by its four corners.

Here comes a scream. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals as well as reptiles of the earth. And here's the text of all texts and birds of the air. So there's your ducks. A voice told him, get up, Peter, kill and eat. This is good to go for food. Right. So get after it.

So that's the clearest thing you could find. Somebody says, well, you think it's right or wrong to shoot animals? Rise, kill, and eat. Now, we're talking about ducks here, birds of the air, but all four-footed animals and reptiles of the earth. All kinds of stuff crawling around out there. But it's the way the world is. So our traditions have changed a little because, like, for years and years and years,

we had Thanksgiving at Granny and Paul's. which was next door. They've been gone for quite a while. It moved up the hill to y'all's house, which was for years. Now it's moved to town because there's so many of us, we can't fit in your house anymore.

I mean, literally, especially Thanksgiving, we invite cousins as well. So, you know, you're talking about 80 to 100 people with our cousins that come. So obviously you've got to have a Taj Mahal to be able to do it. Willie has one.

He's got a Taj Mahal. So now you bring, but we still have tradition. So dad brings the duck and dresses. I just bring one pot. It's a big one. It's a big roaster. Yeah, it'll feed 25.

So tell the audience, dad, because, I mean, it's not, when you think dressing, there's different, people think of different things in their mind. There's a drier stuffing dressing people make. And then there's what you make, which is Granny's recipe. Which it comes from duck fat. Is that what makes it so good, do you think? Duck fat comes from from ducks when you boil ducks. Broth. Big pot of water.

By the time. the ducks get tender, now you have a broth, basically a broth. Yep. Well, you bake cornbread, so about three big things of cornbread, some like stale, what would you call it, French bread, bread. Yeah, well, and you even toast it. I put it on it up like 250 and put the bread in there. That makes you.

And it just makes toast that you can quench, you put your broth back in, you stir it off. all in, you'll put a little bit of, uh, some veggies in there. What'd you say? Sage. Sage. You don't get it to sage. You get that's sage.

Not too much. You don't get wild with that. Maybe a teaspoon, a little more. You take it. It has a little, that cornbread in the duck fat all blended in together. It's, you got your onions. It's quite a meal. Salaries, celery.

Salaries. Salarri. Yeah. So you cook that down or you just put that in raw and then it bakes it. Cook that. Cook that down. Yeah. It's always best to cook those down a little bit because you get that flavor then.

You begin to put all the ducks to get ready and you place the ducks back in. They're real tender. Your legs are come up. Do you bake the ducks a little bit after you boil them to get a crisp on or just just warm and set them out? When you bake the dressing. Oh, I say, then it makes them. Usually we'll put a little spread of.

And nobody eats the ducks but feel. Yeah. My dad used to eat the ducks. He loved the ducks too. Oh, yeah. And they're pretty good. Thiel are my favorite green wing teal. They make it real good.

Or wood ducks. Yeah, wood ducks are good. Yeah, we've got to where now we've got, Jay has introduced us as quite the brining system for the ducks to make them so good. It's kind of hard to just eat them in there unless you grew up that way, which dad did. Yeah. And I kind of did too. I mean, if I can eat it with Tristan, then they're good.

But if they're just on their own, hmm. No. Not so much. So, Mom, what your traditional stuff is sweet potato pie. And you have to make enough for Jace to have his own pie, at least one, right? Oh, yeah. Because he eats a whole pie. I've seen Willie eat a whole pie too.

Yeah. You know, he's not. Are you going to have sweet potato pies this time? I'm going to try to. But I did tell Alex that I don't think I could make as many. But you don't need to because now the rest of them make stuff too. Used to you were the whole show. Well, that's right.

Now, but you are going to have to make enough to give your sons one on their own. Oh, I know. I know. Maybe she can just come down there and help you. Yeah, she could. She could. And I want to do that, but I just want her to help make something else different, too, you know, for the day. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, and I are watching Triple D the other day. It's my favorite show. I mean, the phrase, I don't know where they got it from, you probably can look it up. I don't know how long Thanksgiving has, you know, Thanksgiving. That's pretty good two-two-way. words to put together. Uh-huh.

Well, they claim it goes back all the way pre-country to the late 1600s. Yeah. When the bounty would be there and, you know, people would just be thankful they were here in America and all that, you know. And they wanted to. They lost that type thing. And, you know, you have a meal that you take out of the woods of your planet earth. But, you know, you make a good point, Dad.

Here's another thing about Thanksgiving. And I think this is, it's not. like intentional. Like there's a cabal out there. But there's a move now. So you got Halloween. Everything is about commercialization now. So you got Halloween,

which is all about candy and selling stuff and decorations and all that. And now there's a move to start Christmas literally the day after Halloween. I know. And so what's happened is by doing that and you're seeing it more of the ads and stuff, you're basically weeding out Thanksgiving. Yeah. And the reason why that I think that is is because it's the, the only non-commercialized holiday.

I mean, they made a big deal out of Black Friday, which is the next day for to sell stuff. But you're right, it's a very humble idea of a holiday that, you know what, we're just thankful for what we have. That's right. But it seems like to me. This comes direct from the woods, which if you look over the past, I mean, before everything got so, let's see, modern.

Before it got modern, it was a big thing to the pioneers and whatnot. Oh, yeah. You know, they were traveling on across the earth going west, you know. Well, the reason why the turkey, I'm assuming, again, was part of it, is because that was the bird that was here. Yep. So when it's a big bird feeds a lot of people. I mean, it's not always, you know, a lot of times turkey gets dry.

I mean, you've got to know what you're doing to cook a turkey. Of course, we fryers now, which fried turkey are delicious because they maintain their juiciness, but they're crunchy on the outside. My nephew does that. So how many will he fry up this year? I don't know. I've got to meet up with four. Four, I think.

Because, I mean, again, it tastes a lot of turkey. Yeah. It's unreal how we eat it. My favorite's the leg after he fries. Oh, man, mine too. Usually I just, if I'm over there where they're slicing it, I can pretty much get what I want for it ever gets put out. That's right.

You got to be in the right spot. You always were. You don't get a body like this without knowing where to hang out. You know what I'm saying? I'm thinking, too, that, you know, our country is just not as, thankful either as a whole. That's a great point. So I think that's another reason why they want to skip from Halloween and then go to Christmas, you know.

But Dad, you were talking about this in the last podcast, these folks on these college campuses, you know, there's a, I'd say there's probably hundreds of thousands and unfortunately maybe even millions of people that aren't thankful that they're in America. They don't like this country. They know, they know what, you know what? You know what I tell them? They literally don't take time to give, honor words. They could almost have a holiday non-thanksgiving.

Like, we want to have a holiday where we bash America. And the way it's done, a lot of people say, well, y'all shouldn't kill all these animals. You know, you shouldn't do it. But God said, here's who's killing it. Here's who made these animals and the birds of the air and the fish of the sea. arise, kill, and eat. I mean, you have orders from headquarters that says be thankful. A lot of people say, you know, you can't do that.

Well, what they're actually saying is you don't have to be thankful. And you make a good point because they're not thankful. Thanksgiving season falls in our hunting season where we live. Let's take another break. And here's the deal. What I want to tell these people that are so mad about America, here's the deal. You don't like America. Just quit bad-mouthed it.

Because if you, I mean, it just makes me so mad because we were so blessed. But, you know, another thing, though, Mom, that's being lost is we are sitting here talking about this meal, which unfortunately, Lisa and I will miss this year for the first time, I don't know, maybe, ever? Ever, maybe. Because we're going on a trip, and so we're actually going to be traveling on Thanksgiving Day. We will be in Budapest. Budapest, yeah. That sounds scary. Yeah, it's in Hungary.

which I'll be hungry. Yeah, and hungry. I don't know what we're going to eat on. I don't even know exactly where that's located, but I can look at it. And now we're three generations deep. So Bella, well, she cooks like Willie's cheesy bread. And now, like, your grandkids and now ultimately great-grandkids will start bringing food. But the idea of a big meal together and gathering was important.

And it always has been. But that's predicated on the idea that people cook and have meals, and then they kind of pass that on. But we're losing that too. Oh. And so Lisa and I, when we were in Gulf Shores a few years ago and right before Thanksgiving before we came home. And there's a big thing down there about restaurants that provide all the cooking. So these are people, snowbirds and people that aren't with their family, but nobody cooks. No.

And so they all want to go to the restaurant. Well, you can't even book a restaurant in Gulf stores Alabama for Thanksgiving meal because they're all packed. You've got to do it the year before. A year in advance. They don't know how to cook anymore. They don't. And a lot of those are older people. So you're starting to see this trend of getting away from the idea of a meal, hospitality.

So it should make y'all feel good that your progeny, your generations going forward, have picked up what y'all left. We're still cooking. And we're still cooking. And, of course, dad talks about it all the time. He hears us talking about something we had for supper last night. Dad's like, man, y'all are eating good in the neighborhood. And I'm like, oh, yeah. I mean, we train down, Jenna, right?

Now my kids cook for me, you know, as good as Lisa can or you could, Mom. So, yeah, it's a way. Of course, now everybody's trying to get all the moms, recipes, and dads. I don't know. Has anybody learned how to make the dressing yet? Somebody's got to learn how to do that. Yeah, well, we'll have to watch that being done. Willie would think he could do it.

Next year, I'll come watch it. Yeah. Yeah, we need to keep that traditional. See, when Willie made some and kind of hid it because he liked Phil to have the main dressing out. But when he did that, I was like, what is in that dressing, Willie? Because he hid it. And he just let us try it. Seafood.

You know, he's trying to the new seafood dressing. Ooh, seafood dressing. But he wasn't ready to release it to the world. If Phil wants to do it early, I'll come help him on. Monday. There you go. All right. Next year it's a date.

We're going to make it happen. So. It's next Monday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're there, Dad. Yeah. You got to get ready.

I guess so that means that I guess this Saturday is opening a day of duck season. Yep. Yeah. So that'll be exciting. The biggest thing is finding them. Depending on how many ducks we get. Yeah. You know, we got that big magnolite pot.

Yeah. The roaster. Yes. Got to get a roast. We have to locate that every time. Yeah. Because you don't use it at any other time of the year. No.

and it gets piled over. Yeah. I can't imagine stuff piling up at your house, Dad. That seems unusual. Isn't that a shocker? The Cajins would call it the GJ. You get the livers. You get the livers.

The Gijiege. Yeah, Gerset. Never heard of that. Yeah, you get. Sounds like me mispranaganza. The gizzard, the heart, liver. You peel that hide off the gizzard and cut it up, you know, and you cook it long.

It'll get tender. The giblets. Some people call it the gibblets. Ghiblet gravy. I used to eat gizzards. The Gizabeth. Least of like chicken gizzard. Yeah.

I did too. I think it was KFC and churches used to sell gizzards. You can't find them by bad gizzards. Sometimes a filling station will have them. Yeah. You know, usually like an old black woman cooking back there. Yeah. That's right.

Because they know what's good. So I guess I need to mention, too, before we get to our text, that we traveled together for the first time in forever, a couple of Saturdays ago, went to Vegas and spoke at a big church there. It wasn't in Vegas, but it was like just outside Vegas. But we flew into this. Nice. Yeah, it was a nice church, nice people.

The people that Willie's been doing this life surge is what it's called. And so it's kind of a Christian business organization. The lady who started the Annie Ann's Pretzels, which are delicious. Yes. She was there and a lot of other people. Me and Kay met her. And we met Nick Vucicich. Yeah.

I think is his name. Amazing guy. Just wonderful. Anyway, we had a good time there with those folks. And we did a little like Q&A with the three of us and Willie. And Benham interviewed us. But Willie seemed like he was having a big time. He laughed the whole time.

Yeah, how about the play-by-blay coming home of the LSU game? Yeah. We were watching the album. Alabama game, which congratulations to your Alabama fans. I didn't mention it last week, but they got us this year. But we were trying to watch the game on the plane coming on. We couldn't pick it up on the plane, so we had to just do a type by type, play by play. Yeah, because he is the only one that could get it. The words on his phone. Yeah, he was just getting one of those updates on it. So he was kind of giving it. But he did it like a real announcer. And then at the end.

But I was sick. So I was just kind of out of it. I mean, I had something, something, some kind of bad bug or something. So I was fighting through it. Well, I was listening to him. It was like I was listening on TV. And then all of a sudden he just stopped. And I said, I announcer, what's happening now? He said, game over, we lost.

Once I noticed once LSU fell behind two touchdowns the second half, the play-by-play dried up. Yeah. Well, and then he just announced that we lost. Yeah. And I like, and don't talk to the announcer again. Right. But that was fun being together again. It was. We enjoyed that. Back in the day, we used to go every weekend somewhere and travel and speak.

The four of us travel well together. Yeah. But see, we sit together and then he goes five seats up and he sits there. He didn't want to be bothered by talking. He wanted to be able to focus on the game. Well, let's just face it. He's always been different. I mean, he always does something like that. Well, I offered my seat to him and he's like, no, no, no, I'll sit right. He was the man that moved away. Remember, couldn't live in the same house with us because he had to fix up a house. He moved out into the cook shack.

Every weekend, he had a new home. That's a question. How many different places did he live in? I tell you, that would be funny if we ever discussed that. Well, yeah. I love it because Kay used to, he would, quote, run away. He just went up on the hill. Yeah.

Until he smelled Kay cooking something. And then it was like he would, you know, walk back with his tail between his legs, like, oh, that food smells too good. And just like, ease in like we didn't see him. And then he's all of a sudden. No matter how mad he was when he left, suppertime drew him back in. Every time. Some things never change. He would say, fan that door like that and get that chicken smell out there where I was frying chicken.

Yeah. I was going to say, Al, Phil was talking about that a while ago about people saying, oh, you shouldn't kill animals. and eat them and, you know, you shouldn't do all that. But those are the same people who have no problem with us killing babies to term, you know? Yeah. Yeah, we discuss that. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, which actually, actually that leads us to our text.

Let's take another break. So we left off with Jason Zach in Luke 1815. And so I'm going to read this text and us talk about this. the rest of the podcast because it's just what Lisa just said. The idea about children and the protection of children, we had the same discussion with Kirk Cameron, too, because of what he's doing now with his books and all the stuff he's doing. Here's what the text says, Luke 1815.

People are also bringing babies to Jesus to have him touch them. So it was like a blessing, you know, where they would bring it. We did that. Yeah, we still do it. Yeah, bring it to the rabbi. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. So the disciples looked at what was going on,

and we tried to kind of describe it in context. It was probably like, oh, he's too busy to be doing these little mundane blessings, you know. But Jesus called the children to him. Bring them on. Let the little children come to me. Do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child, will never enter it.

And so I was curious about that because, I mean, obviously, both of you and mom, I grew up watching this, and then when Lisa and I first got married, we did house church together because we lived next door, that you were always kind of

in charge of the kids. Yeah. Which you would always have, like in a house church setting, you'd have adults and kids, and we would be together, and then we'd usually sing and stuff together, and then the kids would go,

and you'd either teach them or read them a book or whatever, And then the adults. Sometimes, you know, we'd walk up the road and sing. Yeah, you'd take them on a little, during the summertime, take them on a little field trips. Yeah. So it was, kids were always a part of the proceedings.

And we've joked about it that sometimes you'd, you'd have a bunch of kids that try to haul off all the toys. I had to go through their pockets for the kids. You would have a, you would have, it's like a prison check. When everybody leaves, you would have to empty all the pockets, make sure, right? And I would take them out and I'd say, this stays, this guy, You can have this. We can have this one.

That pocket map, no. Policing the area. Yeah, that's right. You had to make sure. I did. So that was always a part of it. At least it did the same thing later when we were in town. But why is it important, you think, to think about the children, protect them, teach them?

I mean, y'all have done it way more than dad and I have because we were more adult-oriented, our role was more teaching the adults. But why is that so important, you think? Why is it so important what Jesus was trying to get across in this context? What do y'all think? Because children are so innocent. They're so innocent. That's just what I think about every time.

And I'm going to tell you something. I want to say this right quick, that, Alan, you were a really special child. And I think that. Thank you for recognizing that, Mom. Yeah. So few have. I totally agree. Well, and here's the deal.

And your brothers are to kiss your feet because you actually save their life to care of them. And they won't recognize it. Instead, I get another than they're at grief. I know, because they're so prideful. I'm sorry. I want to apologize for them right now. But I saw it. Somebody marked this.

What episode, 791? Yeah. The truth about Jason Willie. I know. And the thing about it is, is Alan, when he was a boy, he had to help me so much. because Phil wasn't the best person in the world. And really, I was so young that if Alan had to be the boy he was, I just don't think I would have made it.

I don't know what would have happened. Mom and I talked about this with the movie. You know, it's a 90-minute film, so you can't include everything. No. But that was one of the things you and I both had talked about in interview with them was the bond that we shared about taking care of the kids. And they couldn't leave everything in. We get it.

But that is one of the things you weren't able to really see in the film that in life as we lived it was a big part of that. Well, and you had that relationship with Nanny, my grandma, that nobody else had. And she shared with you just like she shared with me. And you just learned her kindness and her loved God. And yet she was just humble. And yet we were probably the richest people in town. But we didn't act like it. And I would have gotten my face up for acting better than I was.

Audi. Yeah, I couldn't do that ever. I didn't do that. And it was because of her and because that's the way my mom and dad were this. You don't act like you have. You're not better than anybody else. Just because we have a store that's good and we make money and all. It's just so I learned that.

I really did because somebody would say, well, you don't even act like you have anything. And I said, yeah, I do. But I'm not going to act like that. Which I thought that the early scenes in the movie when you were the child, Kay, did a pretty good job at that, showing how you, like, reached out to dad's family and other little families there. That's right. Your mindset wasn't because you were dressed nice and all that.

It wasn't that you looked down on anybody. Yeah. No. Yeah. But she would always say, Nanny talked about how all the years they didn't have anything. And they came in there and run that store with nothing, lived in the back of the store with two children. And they didn't have walls.

They just had, remember, I told you, they had the partitions. They hung the quilts and stuff to separate. Well, how would you like to go up like that? And you have an outhouse for your bathroom out of the back door. I mean, they lived like that for 40 years. Right. Before they ever built a house.

That's right. And, yeah, they did build the first brick house and out of, and that was really something. But all that other time, nobody ever realized how bad they lived. I think they've contacted her for a big sign like Willie and Bernice when he was born. Yeah, one Friday. Yeah, Ms. Kay. They're doing a mural of me and Ida.

And having a sign there for home of Miss Kaye from Dutton Isty. She's the only famous thing that ever come out of Idaho. Yeah, there's probably not a lot of famous people, Mom. You're the big deal from there. Who would have ever guessed you? I'm thrilled and honored. Isn't that cool? And they're going to do it on the side of the store?

Is that what it? Somewhere, I don't know, because the store is not the store. I know they asked me for a picture in Vivian, somewhere around the high school, I think, a picture of the two of y'all as well. So I guess that's one thing about a movie. I guess it does people like want to mark that these people were from here. I actually need to check with Becky because I just went ahead and told them to send what picture they wanted to. used to Becky up there because I knew I could get it through Herd Dog Commander and me to approve. They want me to say this is okay.

So how do you think your own childhood experiences? I mean, you mentioned it about yours growing up and the influence from your grandmother and how that, you know, kind of shaped you and how to view. Oh, it definitely did. So what would you say, babe? Your experiences, you had good ones. I mean, we've kind of highlighted the bad ones in our story. But so I think you've probably been more protective of children.

Yeah. Maybe is one of the reasons why. But I'm just. She used to go fishing with her grandma. She did. That's right. I mean, you had great memories of that as well. I mean, I really do.

My grandmother was wonderful. And I stayed with her all the time, you know, anytime I was out of school. Yeah. And she, you know, we cooked together. She made a full breakfast every morning. Yeah. And if we had anything left over, you know, that's we would take it when we went fishing. But she was kind of like Kay's nanny.

I mean, she cooked extra food. That's right. She never knew when somebody was going to come over. She had a huge family. And Phil's grandmother actually did that too. Mama, hell, you remember. But she didn't have real good food. But every day she would cook a big pan of biscuits.

Nobody was there but her. And by noon, all the biscuits were gone. and then she would put her on a potter beans, rice, and cornbread for supper. Nobody there, but by now, by supper. She knew they would come. They would come, and all the food would be gone. There's also a set of railroad tracks right behind her house. She fed them for years.

I'm assuming there was some of those back in the day they called them hobos. Oh, I remember the hobos. But, you know, it's a little bit different situation, I guess. I mean, you're talking about post-depression. And you had a lot of men who didn't have work. Wasn't necessarily because they didn't want to work. It's because there was nothing. So I would call it maybe a better class of hobo.

Is that a better way that's saying? And what I would say is because I remember even helping Nanny take the plates out to give them a plate of food and they would eat it. But I tell you what they'd be. They would be kind. They'd be humble. Respectful. And they would thank you so much, totally different from somebody who demands. Well, I think now there's a lot of mental illness.

It goes along with people being homeless, yeah. And so I think you just really can't trust that anymore to open up your back door and just let anybody come in. And we didn't. We took the plate out there, which I remember that. They didn't come in. They actually ate out there by the porch. Yeah, the hobos, the ones that rode the trains,

they knew our house is where you get something to eat. Right. So Ma would tell them to go back in the back. They had to take a shower. a bath, you know, when they just woke up. But it was complete strangers. Yeah. But the house had a reputation of you can get a meal there.

Generosity. So all of them knew where it was. So just it was a trickle of them all the time. Yeah. They'd get off the train. Next, you know, they'd have a meal. You know, some old guy one time, we had, I think, squirrel and dumplings or squirrel and something. And we had a big meal.

And I said, is that the best thing? you've ever eaten your life. He said, nah, it ain't much. Ma said, yeah, you don't think it ain't much. You ate two plates for her. She was having an argument with one of them, we call them hobos.

Yeah, uh-huh. He wasn't that appreciative of his fine meal. But she lined him out. That's terrible. He could have fooled me because he showed him out. I know. I hated people like that. Yes.

They didn't appreciate it. But there was no fear there. Right. No fear. That would have been in the 60s, early 70s, late 50s. And I would say that's probably, it's much more fearful now, as we said, when you think about, but it's not even the same scenario, really. It's something totally different.

Now it's more the homeless people. And I think another thing that he was talking about when he said, don't hinder them, you know, let them come, is because they're the future. future. You know, the disciples wanted to let more important people to Jesus. That's right. He didn't deem them important. That's right. Jesus said, no, no, no.

These are the most important people right here, these little children, because they're our future. You know, they're going to take over whenever you disciples are gone. The way I put it, babe, when we talked about this on the other, with podcasts with Jason, Zach, was that they tended to be like a lot of people are two-dimensional in they're thinking, only thinking of past and present. But you're right. Jesus is three-dimensional, past, present, and future, knowing that you can be anything. Oh, yeah.

You know, I mean, you can be anything, especially in him. And so this idea about that, which is impossible made possible, is the kind of concept. And you know, to go even further with that, even though, you know, things, happen to children whenever they're young, things that are terrible, sexual abuse, but also physical abuse. I mean, a lot of things happen to kids. But what I love is that you're not defined by that. You do not have to be defined by that.

If you follow Christ, he can take all of that away. And he can make your future like that never happened. He uses that. He uses those bad things to make your future even brighter. And so like you said, that three-dimensional, I mean, he saw that, you know, these kids are our future. And even our kids now, and even the ones, you know, that bad things happen to, they're still our future. I mean, we need to get them help. We need to get counseling, but they're not defined by that.

They're not ruined, you know, because in Christ, we all have, you know, a future. That's right. And we can all start over. And it makes you want to be protective as well. That's right. The same context in Hebrews, I mean, Hebrews, in Matthew, 18. But he adds it a little bit different. wording, Matthew does. He said, if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,

it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea, which is a very graphic, poignant picture. And Jesus didn't use a lot of language like that. So he reserved it for something very serious. But in other words, he says, if you harm children, especially to pull them away, because you mentioned it about the past, think about all the kids that undergo difficult situations, maybe a broken family, maybe sexual abuse, maybe something that someone else perpetrated on this, not their fault. That's right. But then they have to deal with it, that then don't find their way out.

That's right. And we see that all the time, right? Miserable, terrible continuation of what they grew up in. And according to Jesus, I mean, the ones who caused it. that and who caused that, not good. You know, a lot of these people that are in these schools are in businesses that are shooting people, they can trace that all the way back and they've had a traumatic event somewhere in their childhood.

And that could possibly be the reason, you know, something that just broke in their mind. Well, I think about this, the person last year, the trans person. I finally found it. Oh, you found it? I finally found it about the children. He's been looking for a verse this whole podcast. Yeah. Matthew 18, verse 10.

Now listen to this, because this is catchy. See that you do not look down on one of these little ones, these children. You said, don't look down on them. For I tell you that they're angels, these children's angels, I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my father in heaven. That's quite the text.

What is it, Matthew, what? That's Matthew 18, 10. You had it in your notes. In other words, they see the face of God in heaven. So when these children that you think you're done with, not true. Right. Their spirits are still alive.

Their bodies may be down on earth. They slaughter them. Then all that happens. You said, their angels in heaven have their eyes on God. No, that's good. So we're out of time. Man, that went by fast.

That means a good podcast. But we'll talk a little bit more about that. I'm glad Dad found that in our overtime segment, if y'all can stay over with us. If you want to come over, blazed-com slash unashamed. It's always good having the ladies on the podcast. on the podcast.

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