Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 794 | Jase Is Dead Set Against Missy's Clothing Pick & Phil Is Gifted an Unexpected Treat

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Jase returns from the Patriot Awards with fresh (mostly true) stories, and Al has a welcome-home gift waiting for him and Phil. Uncle Si has returned to the duck blind this season, but Jase isn’t sure he missed him while he was gone. Missy forces Jase to wear an article of clothing he doesn’t agree with. The guys tackle the tough subject of giving, generosity, and what the Bible does and does NOT say on the subject. In this episode: Luke 18, verses 1-14; Luke 14, verse 25 Own "The Blind: The True Story of the Robertson Family" on digital, DVD & Blu-ray today: https://theblindmovie.com/watch — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to unashamed. Jace is back. I'm back. Jase, people have been missing you. There's nothing like, where is Waldo? Where is Jace?

It got back and, you know, Zach hadn't been here. I don't, you know, once he became a movie mogul, I don't know if we'll ever see him again. Was he here when I wasn't? No. Oh, my. He was gone the entire time. And so it was down to the square, back to base square of me and dad. Should we do missing poster?

I think we should. Missing. Missing. Zach Dasher. Does anybody know where Zach is? But Dad and I, we were kind of at the helm here, but we had some fantastic guest on. Yeah, I saw your, I appreciate you including me. Yeah, I want you to know what we were doing.

Yeah. But look, we went from, you know, local family with Philip and Cy, mom and Lisa, to Kirk Cameron to the guy that sings for Skillet, Have you ever heard the skillet? I had heard that before, but I just... You know, I sent a note to Bill. I think I met him somewhere. He's a great guy. I sent a note to Billy Loveland.

I said, are you familiar with that? I knew he would, because Billy's an old rocker. You know, he's an old ACDC rush kind of guy, but he loves Christian music rocking too. And I said, have you ever heard of skillet? So he immediately sends a picture back with John Cooper's wife, the guy's wife that was on the podcast. because she sings in the band too. And he said, they're awesome. And I said, well, we just had John Cooper on the podcast.

And I was like, he was amazing. So, Jason, in your absence, we did have some really, really good discussions. But since we're all back together, because I know you're full of stories, which I told the Unashamed Mason, the reason we send you out like that is so you can come back with stories to regale us with of your conquest. But before you do that, I have a special gift that I have. that I did for both of you. And I'm going to present it right here on Unashamed Nation.

So if you're listening, you're not going to be able to see this. I'll try my best to describe it. But if you're watching, you're going to see it. So hang on. We have gifts. It's in an ice chest. I like gifts that are in an ice chest. Oh, my goodness.

So this is my, my famous cherry cream cheese pie. Oh, careful there. That was almost. It could have been a disaster. There it is. So it's got the key is what's really made it like has matured the pie as the crust. It's kind of a crumbly, I roast pecans and mixed together. Well, before you give the recipe, because I think we should.

How this has become over the last, well, I guess I can't count the first 10 years of my life because we just ate whatever we could find. So I'd say the last 44 years of cuisine, this has. made, it was almost like a billboard and it just started inching its way up. And I would say number one pie. So, for me, personally. Mom made it originally. I've, I've taken it to another level. And if mom were here, she would agree with that. Because I started messing with the crust and all that. But so this is Jace and dad. I think they're one of their favorite pies. So I already gave dad his. I made one for you, Jays. One for dad. Dad. Dad's,

already partaking, Dad, did he get a thumbs up? Prana, pies, there is. So, yeah, he's, dad said, is this thing cold? I said, it's ice cold. It's literally nice. I appreciate it. So I made y'all of these because, one is because we're all back together. I won't be here Thanksgiving because I'm going on a cruise with Lisa.

And so normally I cook them for Thanksgiving. So since I could make them for Thanksgiving, I said to give you all one. And Carly, four generation dad, well, I said, what do you want? What do you want for your birthday? She said, I want one of your cream cheese pies. So now we're into, she's 18 this week, and she said that's what she wanted. Those kind of pies, you know, reach out for hearts. Reach out for our hearts.

Well, I really missed y'all. You know what's crazy? You know what's really crazy is I've been here five minutes. For you who are wondering, our prep time is, are you all ready? Yep. But I've been here for five minutes on the premises. Chase is like, why are we doing on Sunday? Because we're going Sunday.

I just preached like an hour ago. I was preaching. I was going to bring that up. Because, you know, we do two podcasts at a time. You're hearing them, what, three days apart, Maddie? Three days apart? Yeah. Oh, she gave a, I don't know what that is.

It's a hand, three or four. Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Oh, okay. That's Maddie, by the way. That's the release. Yeah, so we do two on Monday, two on Tuesday, and then they release next Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Shouldn't we have announced this before our 800th episode,

how they're released? I mean, people may want to know. I think we have to. But what I was going to say is I've only been here five minutes, and I've received two gifts, and they were both in an ice chest. Really? Oh, yeah. Right before I walked in here, I received another gift,

and it was in an ice chest. So there's a net. Can you tell you were missed? There's a, there's a, there's a Yeti Ice Jets right there in the middle of the, where everybody parks. That I'll be taking that with me. But, uh, your son-in-law, yeah, shot me a nice little, little deer. Because this week is Thanksgiving week in our time. Yeah, it'll be airing after, but yeah.

Yeah, come coming into Thanksgiving. So I didn't know you weren't going to be around. I'm leaving. So I were doing an extra break. So I brought in a report. replacement family for y'all without knowing they were replacing you because i thought you were being here so the langhofer's and you remember trent he's been on our podcast before i love me some langhofer he's uh we're really good friends we went and saw them in colorado maybe a month or two ago and uh

i spoke at at his men's group at his church a couple times and uh so he's coming back and spending thanksgiving week with us his whole family i know it I'm excited. Three kids. He's preaching next Sunday. Is it true that they, someone who reached out to him, he was camped out underneath a bridge. Well, I thought about him today. His story was amazing.

Al was preaching. So there at WFR, Al's preaching through Luke because we're, if you hadn't figured this out, Al's getting all his material. This is my sermon prayer. In the podcast. So he does, because Al, you said you did 26 events this week, which made me tired. I mean, not this year. Yeah.

Yeah, so that made me tired just thinking about it. But it was an excellent sermon. And I think Trump and his family, they were going to stay with us a few days. But then they got wind that he was coming into town. So now he's preaching next Sunday. Yeah, I'm super excited. So he's going to hang out. So that's why I wanted the deer.

So I kind of dropped a hint to Jay Like I'm out of town Because I've been on the road for 10 days, I guess Almost two weeks, yeah And I'll tell you why Because I mean I love Unashamed Nation Y'all support us

And you're our family So I really geared the last two months Of this filming The Duck Family Treasure Show To end the day before duck season But do you realize How difficult that is to do Because I can't say that.

I can't say, hey guys, hey executives, hey production company, hey family. Hey, crew of 25. Yeah, crew of 25. I'm not missing duck season. So whatever we got to do, we need to fit. So I had to cleverly and creatively maneuver the schedule rounds so that no matter what happens, Friday night, I am in West Monroe, Louisiana. And when you know it, late Friday, I came rolling in via Knoxville, Tennessee through Nashville for a day and a half to make it here.

I had to get up at 4 o'clock in the morning, a couple mornings in a row just to get everything done and get here. But then we celebrated opening day of duck season. So that'd be yesterday for us. Yep. Which was a fine little hunt. Oh, it was good. I was shocked because look, so I'm, so when y'all are hunting, I'm driving yesterday, right down from Missouri, right down this. I split Arkansas right down the middle.

I passed rice fields, open slicks of water, and I'm looking and I'm looking and I'm looking. I didn't out see one duck in the state of Arkansas. So I saw about eight million blackbirds, and I told Lisa Lisa was asked me, but she's, what do you keep looking for? So I'm looking for ducks. I mean, I'm literally going down 67. There's rice fields on both sides. Yeah. And it was nothing.

And I said, I bet they got skunked down on the property to that. I bet it had to be. I kept seeing these guys coming out with their place. It was a, it was a fine. I would say it was top five opening days in the history of our hunting down there. I mean, the total number is like 27 ducks. But we only hunted until 8.30. I mean, for all practical purposes.

It was heavy on the gadwall, the crazy gadwall. Oh, so it's an early gadwall. Oh, and we just, everybody was caught up in the hysteria. Everybody had duck fever this year, which was unusual. You know, Si didn't hunt last year. Right. And he was first in line. I was out too, because I had that.

And then Dad missed most of the back out. It broke his back. So it was a really frustrating year last year, and we didn't have a good opening day. I think we shot five or six. Yeah, that's right. And so we hammered them. It was heavy on the gadwalls. Sy was first in line.

And I have to admit, was his old self. He claimed every duck, which means he should be in a jail cell somewhere. What was funny was every time Cy would be the only one who would shoot, you notice they didn't fall then. Listen, I was fortunate enough to, you wonder whether people are listening out there. A woman about my age said, we came from north-south, now it's at South Carolina, you know. She said, we come over, she said, because don't let them fool you. You're right about them phones, about them telephones. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, you found you a fan. The infamous analogy, Phil, the only human on the planet to come up with a new slogan, which Phil's hard to do to come up with something that no one has ever come up with. That's right. And for you that missed that podcast a few podcasts ago, Phil said say no to the cell of and yes to the telephone. That's what he said. I'm on a start a movement.

And so he now has one follower. The problem with his movement is nobody will know because they don't have any way to know his time. They don't have a telephone. Well, they're too busy on the cell phone. Unless he calls you directly on a landline you just put in, you'll never know about the moon. Well, Phil wants to bring back the landline. And so, you know, it's a noble request. But he does have one follower.

And how old did you say she was? She's about my age. 75. So you got to start slow. You're a bit younger. We don't want to hurt it. I have to tell you this story. She didn't do it a day over 65.

So we wrapped our, what they call, principal photography. We're starting to move, but the telephones, the majority of them, were just that. Telephones. Yeah. Transfer information, but no pictures of all these women. All right. We got it. Let's not relive it.

I don't include that. This is, hello, how you doing? I just want to remind you, you know. Okay. So I want to share that story with you if you'll allow me. Godly women like the idea of telepharm. We had an embarrassing moment, Al, that I'd like to share. So we finished the principal photography for all these episodes.

You know, we did 30 episodes this year. Which means you're not quite done. It just means you got all the main stuff. Exactly. There's some more filming to take place. But the goal was finished. And what I mean by principle of photography is like where we, they just show us hunting and we just creatively, collaboratively come up with the show. Still got to do pickups, back scenes, interviews. Interviews, stuff like that.

I got it. So we finished that. And then we drove to Nashville because we were invited to the Patriot Awards, which is a father. I so wanted to ask you about that, too, because I didn't see. as much this year as I normally do because we were on the road. Way better this year. Oh, good. Was it because it was in Nashville or just because?

I, you know, personally, yes. I mean, Nashville is, it's part of the flyover states, I think, that is so forgotten. And, you know, of course, all the event, everybody had cowboy hats on it. I looked about like I do right now. I mean, Missy picked out my outfit, which was a blue suit suit coat and some blue of those funny pants that people wear, you know. Funny pants? Well, they look like suit pants.

Like, you wear them, when you wear a suit or whatever. I don't get out enough to look at it. No. Well, I don't know. Like, you know, people who wear suits. Yeah. To me, that material is funny. It's like.

Like funny, ha, ha, funny, or what kind of? Like, when you wear a suit, those pants have no purpose in anything that I would ever do in the outdoors. I would rip those things to shred. They're shreds. You're right, because you bend down quickly or whatever. You can rip them. Yeah, so I never figured out how that caught up. Yeah, let's take our first grade.

So anyway, we filmed our last episode, and then we go to Nashville, and so we went to that. But the gist of it is they honor ordinary people who do extraordinary things. So they call it Patriot Awards, because you're, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, do an extraordinary thing like they had a young young kid well he was 17 now when he was 10 years old he was visiting his grandpa's grave from war war two and he just looked around because obviously his grandpa was in a cemetery where there were a lot of other war war war two veterans and he just thought there's no flowers or flags here he as a 10 year old kid he was moved and so he just started a one-man band of honoring World War II veterans.

Good for him. Well, look, he's been doing it for seven years all across the country. And he's met so many, you know, living veterans. And he just, he puts a flag and flowers on their graves and, you know, says a few words. So they gave him an award. I mean, it was for being a patriot. I mean, stuff like that. But so it was, it was really good.

And so, but what I was going to say is, so we were down with all their celebrities. You know, they, we have a show, yeah, on Fox Nation. And so Missy, as soon as the show was over, because you're being filmed, not directly, but the show is live and they're filming it. Well, you don't want to be sitting there on your phone. Right. So, like, we turn our phones off and have it nowhere around us. And so Missy, as soon as it was over, she's like,

your mom has called me the entire show. And I was like, what? So, of course, what do you think? And you're worried like something like that. Well, then I'm worried. I was like, well, for mom to call that many times, something is wrong. So I said, well, let me call her. Well, so we called and she's like, well, your dad was trying to get a hold of you.

And I was like, well, let me talk to him. She's like, well, he's in the bed now. So then I realized, okay, it wasn't an emergency because he's gone to sleep. Yeah, right. And she's like, she's like, well, there were two points that he wanted to talk to you about. And I was just thought, well, give them to me, you know. And she said, well, we were trying to watch you at the event that you were at. And we couldn't figure out where to watch it at.

They couldn't find. So I said, well, let me get this right. You were trying to call me to figure out how to watch the event. And you're doing the event. I'm at the event, so I can't. No, I have one of those wonderful boxes that you hold in your hand. Remote control? Yeah.

Yeah. I have just a plethora of them. But unfortunately for me, I mean, the things. A plethora of wonder boxes. Yeah, you can't get your information. It started out. The guy walks out, you know, with the, who was the. Hey, Seth.

Yeah. He walks out, walks out, says about three. And we're all sitting there, you know, I said, yeah, we may catch Jason them on, you know, maybe they'll get on for a few lines. So we're looking at it. But all of a sudden, the entire apparatus on the telephone, telephone, on the cellarphone, I looked up there, it just went plump, and it just was a round circle. They just started doing that. They never came up with anybody after that. It was just a station with that on it.

You lost your wife. a round circle. You lost your signal, Phil. Tell me about it. Yeah. So the other issue... We know that circle. Somebody just shut it off.

So the other issue you wanted to talk to me about was like where we're going to hunt. Of course, I hadn't been there in 10 days. Yeah. Jay was scouting. So I thought it was hilarious that I thought. Now, this is cell phone problems right here. I mean, it was, we laughed about that. Oh, my goodness.

So your problem is, Dad, you don't have a... land connection. Yours is a satellite, Elon Musk. We might already get to the Bible. The worst thing you could ever do would be like Phil Robertson when he was the dad and you had children.

Well, y'all were the children. So if you disrespected Ms. Kay, your mother, I'd put a belt on your butt. About three licks on that one. And another one was tearing up perfectly good equipment for no good reason. That was out.

You all remember that? I didn't agree with that one. And look, and now they said, you don't get it, son. You don't get it, old man. You know, what you're contemplating and what you're talking about is illegal. You're breaking the law if you put a belt on your sons. Yeah. I said, no, I appreciate it.

Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. I'm noticing that that really is good law. No belts, but the fruit of the tree is not very good. No, Phil, you had a good deal. Well, if we disrespected our mom or, you know, authority, we got three legs. If there was bloodshed and the altercation among the brothers. Yeah. Meat pop. But then you had that third one, which I thought, I don't agree with that.

Because if we tore, if we were to tear up perfectly good equipment. The problem was we were really poor, and the equipment we had was made in China. And it had a... What is it going to be good in it, but you'd just have to tear up the rest of them? I'm like, why am I being spanked? was going at that, which he said, we said he tended to lean toward the legal description. What exactly do you mean by perfectly good? Because there's where we got a problem. No, Sae told me one time in my defense after he witnessed when I got a spanking for breaking

a boat paddle. And Saa said, hey, he said, hey, he got it wrong on that one. He said, you killed a Congo because I killed a snake that was in close proximity. seem to me. I could have died. You could have a good boat paddle. Kill a snake. But, Sye said that boat paddle was made in China. A piece of junk. It was a piece of junk.

You dad got it wrong on that one, and I'm just telling you, don't be bitter about it. I said, I appreciate it. But since you'll never see the episode Sia was on, I was going to mention a couple of things to you just that you'll like. One is he was promoting your show, his show, too, because he's on the show. he was taught because mom had cooked there was a scene where she cooked some squirrel and dumpling yeah and they had just filmed it so he and philip were talking about that i thought that was cool because she was kind of teaching uh my wife and jessica how to how to do it okay so he mentioned that and then so that got us into squirrel hunting so we told some squirrel hunting tales and then side told

the story about when he said he got 27 and i was like boy sigh had 27 squirrels he said nope snakes He said, I went in, I killed 27 snakes, and that was all I killed. I said, well, you were looking down the whole time. Yeah, instead of looking up. So he told that whole story. It was pretty funny. But then at the end of it, before we got to, because dad was finally like, dad was like, okay, when we get into the Bible?

And so, because I was so excited because I sent them notes. We actually talked about the rich young ruler, and I said, you're getting to plow, you're getting to detect new ground that Jay says. not been to yet because you get your first shot that he was so excited but he we talked about the movie a little bit and he mentioned because I said sigh the main thing I hear from people about you in the movie is that they are seeing a side of you they never knew because you know in the movie's kind of contemplative and like you know he's concerned and uh he said really and so then he went on a rant didn't he dad about how that I mean the man has repented it's time to move on so I don't somebody

He must have said something to him about how bad dad was because he went on about a four-minute defense of dad rat that was he was banging the table. I finally was like, okay, so let's get to this text because you're starting to scare. But if you look carefully when someone straightens up and asks for forgiveness and embraces the gospel of Jesus, you need to support that little movement there. Absolutely. Well, that was the whole point of it. It was, we've been doing this now.

There's 50 years of track record. Yep. I think, I think it stuck is the point. So speaking of text, we're going to get back into the rich young rule. We kind of got into it. It's kind of funny, though, as doing the Bible study with Sy and Phil. But they were, they were good. They had some good points to make.

So let's take a break and then we'll dive in. All right. So we're in Luke 18. We are, but, you know, a lot of what you preached on Luke 15, I noticed resurfaced when we get to Luke 19. Yep. But also a few things. We've kind of dealt with it in between too.

I even mentioned in my sermon today, Luke 16, because I think you made the original point, as on the podcast, the worldview of the Pharisee in the false narrative that they had that you only showed signs of piety and blessing if you were rich. and nothing was wrong with you.

Like you didn't have any physical maladies or whatever. Yeah, I got that from Tim Kelly. That was really good. He does a good job of giving you the context of what they were thinking in that world. And that was a huge one. It's like if you're healthy and you have money, well, God's for you. He's rewarding you for your goodness. And when Jesus makes this profound statement at the beginning of the,

the rich young ruler conversation. I mean, you got to remember, he had just talked about this, the difference in the Pharisee and the tax collector's prayer. You know, here's this, here's this Pharisee saying, oh, you know, I prayed about himself. God, I thank you that I'm not like all these other people, you know, and I fast twice and I give a tent. So he's doing all that, and that's that same kind of seed there. I'm successful.

Therefore, you have found, I have found favor with you and earn your blessing. And to hell were the rest of them. That's it, literally. Exactly. Yeah. And so then he even taught, you know, he brought up about receiving the kingdom like little children. And then all of a sudden he says there was a certain ruler asked him. So a certain ruler says this is a guy with power.

And obviously money is power. And you're going to see that even as we get to Zacchaeus, the tax collector. If you were a tax collector, you were powerful. Yep. And so setting the context, you know, they were under Roman rule. And these Jews who were tax collectors were, I mean, it's almost like a, you know, I think it helps you understand if you look at it like the mafia, they're kind of the Roman bag men who are being rewarded handsomely for collecting all. this money. So they become powerful and what do they do? Well, then they start picking what

women they want and you know, they had a reputation for being, you know, extremely sexually immoral because they're powerful people. That's right. And they're justifying it all by saying, well, if God was not for me, how come he's giving me all this money? That was kind of how their mind worked. But then Jesus makes a very profound statement. I mean, I thought about this when I read it. Why do you call me good? Jesus answered, because the ruler said, good teacher. What must I do to inherit eternal life? Why do you call me good? Jesus answered. No one is good except God alone, which is kind of a confusing thing to say, because you're like, well, isn't Jesus good? Well, of course he's good. but from his perspective, how does he know that he's the son of God in this moment? So Jesus turns his attention to there's no one good except God alone.

But just think of the gravity of that statement. Because that's flying in the face of, well, I must be good because God is blessing me. I have all this money. Exactly. I'm perfectly healthy. Don't you think? Oh, yeah. I mean, did y'all talk about that?

One little sentence. It is confusing. It is. And I even said what you said originally a minute ago when we talked about it before, that I think Jesus was already setting up what he was going to do because he knew he was good because he was the son of God. He's described by Jesus in a certain town. There was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men.

well yeah back to that other back to Luke 18 right well I think in this case though I think he's setting it up just with the idea that he's like he knows that he's not I mean Jesus knows what's about to happen he's going to lay out a situation for this guy he's not going to do it so he's going to basically reject he who is good because of his misunderstanding of what good really is and so I think Jesus is setting him up when he when he says it that way that's what I that's what I that's what I that's what I my opinion of what happened. Well, it makes sense, though. The reason I brought up the Pharisee and the tax collector and their different prayers is because that Pharisee, in his prayer, it's a subtle message of, I'm better than other people.

Yeah. We just think how many problems are caused in our world by people thinking that they're better than other people. Just list the reasonings on why they think that. That's why you see so many clans and so many movements and so many groups that they get together. And then you see the mayhem and the misery that they project. Well, and every war is fought by people who think they're right on either side. You know what I'm saying? That's why this was such a profound statement. No one is good except God alone. And I think

Luke put it here right after the children. You say, well, what about children? There's a difference in being innocent and being good. So God is good. Adult, humans are not. That's what he's saying. Right. But the rich young ruler, he comes back because when Jesus says that, well, you know the commandments, do not commit adultery.

Do not murder. Do not steal. Don't give false testimony. Honor your father and mother. Look what happened when you get a man, then a group of people, and then a culture of people that submit to Adolf Hitler. Yeah, exactly. And what was the cokes of that?

Whatever they've done. Because they thought they were better than other people. Well, we're back in that territory again, I'm sorry to say. They got themselves in a position where they said, our race of people, an Aryan race of people is better than anybody else on the planet. You said, what are you going to do the rest of them? Kill them. Kill them.

Because they can't live up to our standard. You say we would never embrace anything, something like that. Go to your major universities and take a look at the same. Still happening. That's exactly right. So Jesus asked this, you know, he makes this statement about, you know, the commandments. And I find this fascinating. This is fascination number two because the rich young lawyers said, well, all these I have kept since I was a boy, he said.

Now, I think 99.99.99% of all other teachers and people would say, well, wait a minute here. No, I know. What are you saying? You're perfect? Because Jesus just said, no one is good except God alone. He lists, how many commandments there do you list? He lists five. And he lists the five relational commandments.

It's interesting. He didn't list the ones about put God first. You can find the movement. You can find movements behind such as this. How many laws were there in the Old Testament? Right. So he listed five of them. He listed five of the big ten is what he did.

Well, five of the big ten, okay. So instead of Jesus doing what most people would do, which is, so wait a minute, you're not being, you're saying you're perfect. You know, we would try to find the ones legally where he has. broken. Yeah. Because we know all people are sinners. That's a funny. That at least claim to be perfect.

Yeah. Instead of doing that. And Jason, I'm willing to bet if he had done that, this man would have said, well, no, I've, I'm not perfect. Exactly. At some point, you're going to hit a nerve because we all know that they're, and that's what makes people who follow Jesus really smart. Because we know there are no perfect adults in our world, nor has there been.

That is correct. Outside of Jesus. that is correct you will make a mistake you you will do wrong which is why there was only one let's take another break so what i find fascinating about jesus which shows you his character and is a reflex to god's character is he doesn't continue a legal argument he makes a totally different argument and goes to the heart of this man which shows you this idea of of god pursuing relationships with human being because he knows what his problem is and he's not going to waste any time having a legal argument or trying to trap him he says when jesus heard this he said to him you still like

one thing sell everything you have and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven then come follow me now that was much better for a culture to be that way Well, but Jesus quoted something that wasn't a lot. No. That is nowhere written. Mm-hmm. So if you go to the Old Testament history, you will find the general rule of a follower was the one-tenth of your wealth,

is what you're to get, what you're to tie. So you know. And he even made a point, Jay's, I think we've already talked about it, where he said, you Pharisees, you go in, you get your tenth of your spices. and your tenth of this and you're measuring it all out. But then you don't do just the basic thing. And to this day, you can fix that where you'll get a constant flow of money that you never dreamed of.

Right. Well, now it's this prosperity gospel. Oh, yeah. If you're really a son of God, then you should have all this material wealth, which is exactly the opposite of what Jesus said in the context of him. Exactly. But he didn't say anything bad about what. I mean, other parables he tells making money is great.

Right. So he's not down on money. He's not down on wealth. No, but we'll see when we get to Luke 19 in the case of Zakias. And we'll wait before we get there. But just to make an illustration, when Zacchaeus comes to his senses and is pricked by the grace of God, well, he throws out different numbers. Like, I'm going to give half of my wealth away. And if I've cheated any of, anyone, I'm going to give four times what I cheated, which is 400%. Well, he took that 10% rule and blew it out of the water. It so reminds me of this.

I had a conversation one time just because this money in both cases comes out here. But I want to say something really profound. I feel like every once in a while we've got to take a time out and just say, Now, wait a minute. The Bible is about Jesus. That's what the Bible's about. So, because I think when people say, what's the Bible about? And you'll start listening to them.

It's about money and, you know, forgiveness. And, I mean, you could just name 100 times. That's why. The Bible is about Jesus. And all these things about money, once you look at it through Jesus's eyes, it starts making more sense. You know, in the middle of all the essence. That's why Jesus reminds the 12.

He said, come in here a minute. After hearing this, have to be in there, listen to this, seeing what some people are saying, the tax collectors and whatever, we're going up to Jerusalem. Everything that is written by the prophets, about the son of man, he'll be followed.

He will be handed over to the Gentile. They'll mock him. insult him and they'll spit on him and they'll flog him and then they're going to kill him. That's why he interjects that. Here's the problem. It's the whole bunch, all of them, every one of them, to the man. Well, I think. And I'm here to solve that problem.

But you know, if Jesus had been a modern preacher, he might have said, so go sell everything you have, give it to the ministry, give it to me, and then come follow me. But he didn't say that. He said, sell it off, help some people, and then come follow me with nothing. Yeah. That's what he told him. But, Al, this is not a new revelation. Remember when we were in Luke 14 and large crowds were following,

verse 25, and he'd come up with this famous verse that nobody knows what in the world he was talking about, when he says, if anyone comes to me and doesn't hate his father and mother, his wife and children, he cannot be my disciple. And it says, anyone who does not carry his cross, follow me, cannot be my daughter. disciple. And in verse 33, he says, in the same way of any of you who does not give up everything he has, he cannot be my disciple. And you're like, well, this sounds horrible. But it's a power. That's why I made this point about money is power. It was then, and it is now. And part of us surrendering to the creator of the universe is really redefining what power is. Money cannot be. But

do anything real powerful if you look at it from a heavenly perspective. It can't raise your body from the ground. The pursuit of money will outreach them all. Yeah, and so it's not money is a bad thing, but money makes our perspectives harder to see clear the creator of the universe because what it falsely does is give us an idea of power and safety and security. So this rich young ruler, obviously Jesus had concluded this guy's putting all his security in his money.

Well, can money bring you back from the debt? Can money give you a relationship with the creator? Can money give you a true purpose on the earth? Can it offer you forgiveness from it? Can it deliver you from your sin? Exactly. Well, who does that? Only Jesus.

That's one of the reasons why. Let's take our last minute. Jayce, that's one of the reasons why that the when this happens is so crucial, because if you've already amassed something and then you're asked to give it up, it's much harder than think about this, than the man who's already given up everything and then it gets blessed with everything. And I was saying about Abraham. Abraham answered the call to follow God, and he didn't know where he was going. He didn't know when he would get there. He just answered. He just said, okay.

So he'd gather up his family and he went. over the course of Abraham's life, he amassed a lot. But why did he respond the right way every time, including the last one when he says, kill your own son, because I want you to sacrifice, because he had already given everything up to God before he ever amassed anything.

And that really becomes the key to me. If you wait and try to do it the other way around, that's why Jesus said it's harder for a rich man to go through the Iveneal than to come into the kingdom, because then you think, well, wait a minute, I've got all this stuff. What am I going to do with all my stuff? Exactly. Well, that's why I think Luke sandwiched this rich young ruler and Zakias,

who had a completely different response. Right. Jesus didn't talk to him about his money. He didn't go say, sell everything you have. He just befriended him and went to his house and risk his reputation for being seen with the tax collector. and that moved him so much to where he said, I'm going to give half of my stuff away.

I mean, don't you think that's ironic that in a span of a few verses? And in between those two stories, you have this picture of Jesus' suffering, being killed, being humiliated, and coming back on the third day and his disciples not understanding it. And then a blind guy does understand who Jesus is

and he can't see. see. Well, that's why he highlights Jesus so much. He said, I'm telling you what I've seen in the father's presence and you do what you've heard from your father. Well, back to how Abraham got worked in here. Abraham's our father, they answered, if you were Abraham's children, said Jesus, then you would do the things Abraham did as it is. You're determined to kill me a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You're doing the things your own father does. And they said, we're not illegitimate children.

They protested. The only father we have is God himself. But that's when Jesus said, if God were your father, you would love me. For I came from God and now I'm here. I'm not coming on my own. He sent me. Why is my language not clear to you?

In other words, you couldn't use Abraham as an example with these people. They said, oh, Abraham's our father. Yeah. But, I mean, it was the opposite of what they should have been talking about. That's right. And ironically, Abraham. And then they didn't trust him. They ain't money.

Well, but ironically, Abraham was wealthy. Yeah. But he had the right perspective. That is correct. Because he had already surrendered. And, I mean, the whole thing comes down to. Abraham was an example of what they should be. Exactly.

But they're claiming him, and they're not like he was at all. Well, that's why that's why God used him, the way he did because he actually superseded Moses and the law because it was always about faith. I mean, it's not like God didn't know that we couldn't keep the law flawlessly. He knew he made us. I mean, he gave us that choice. Today, when I was preaching, I made that point about the father giving away the share of inheritance to the young son. And we would have all said...

Jesus said their father was the devil. Exactly. That's pretty tough. We would have all said, well, that's... Why should we ever do that? That's a bad call. You know, they're not going to be smart enough to deal with it, right? We're still trying to do it for them.

What God says is you have to make your own call. You decide what's going to rule your life. And if it's the love of money and possessions, it will always be that that rules your life. So in this particular guy with this situation, he said the way you can achieve what you're looking for is get rid of all of it. And they're out to kill the savior of the world. Yeah.

Well, then, so let me feel. finish reading this. So then, after he makes this profound statement, the man's face fell, verse 23, he became very sad because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, how hard

it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God. So then he gets back to his original journey to Jerusalem, which is to proclaim him. Because he's right at the door, he's almost there. Yeah, as the son of God and the king is here,

And it says, indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Those who heard this ask, well, who then can be safe, which goes back to the point we were making, because they were under the impression that if you're really wealthy, then God has favor on you. But he was saying the exact opposite. They're like, well, who's in then? So Jesus reply, which I think goes back to the original question that when that ruler asked, what must I do to inherit eternal life? I think it all came to a head right here when Jesus said, what is impossible with men is possible with God.

Because there is nothing that you can individually do to get your sins removed, to repair the relationship with God because he's a God of 100% holiness. You know, sin separates us from God. There's nothing that man can do to beat death on their own. That's correct. And so he's introducing the supernatural ability and the transforming power that God is offering through his eternal love for every individual. And to go back to Al Sermon, Luke 15, that's why Jesus is here.

He came to rescue and repair and make eternal those relationships with people. So Peter said, well, we've left all we had to follow you. And I really think this is interesting because he said, I'll tell you the truth. Jesus said, no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much. Now, I love this. This is good. in this age and in the age to come,

eternal life. And that's the aspect of the kingdom that we presented, those we did about three podcasts on, in that even though it may not look like you have material possessions and all this, those who surrender to Jesus become part of a family. They become part what we call the church. It's spirit-filled people. It's not about buildings.

and so your part and when he goes when he says wife or brothers or parents you know our children and some of these other versions of the the rich young ruler will say homes and all this stuff because then you become you become part of the people who are generous to each other in the kingdom in the church don't you think that's what he mean absolutely and I think part of that thing that's in this life, this age, as well as the one to come, which I do think he's talking about in this life or the next, is that once your view changes of what's important, the things you gain that are worth treasure are different than what they used to be. I mean, now, when I see a person, I see a changed life.

I was talking today about a couple in our church that do our marriage ministry. When I look at their life, when I watch them, when I see them operate, I get, a warmth in my soul that's worth more to me than somebody handing me a check or saying, here, go do this thing. Because you begin to appreciate the things of heaven more than you appreciate the things to earth. So I think that's what he means as much as anything. Oh, I agree.

Well, you're part of a group of people where truly what yours, what's yours is theirs and what's theirs is yours. Now, some people try to take advantage of that. Con men are broken. Sure. There's hypocrisy and churches. but that's why we give. That's why you have a contribution.

Yeah, put this money to work, Jesus told that guy, until I come back. Yeah. But my point is, the purpose of this section is not to tell you what you should do with your money. And I've heard hundreds of sermons on it. The purpose is to show you how you should respond to Jesus. It's about Jesus' character.

Then once you do that, it changes your opinion of money. providing security. It's really about surrender. If this young man had been able to surrender himself to Jesus in this moment, he would not have went away sad. He would have said, I tell you what Jesus, I'm going to do exactly what you said. I'll meet you here tomorrow, or I'll meet you here next week when I got all that out of my life. That would have been the answer for the right response. Instead, he went away, sad. Well, in our overtime, I'm going to tell a story where I worked as an interim. for a couple years at an organized church back when I was in my early 20s.

Yep, Al was there. I was there. And I'm going to tell you the story that I have with church leadership that provided this response to the church leadership. Turn it on, make sure it's turned on the bus. And it was all about should we continue doing sermons about giving 10%? And so I'm going to share that story because it was a suitcase. I will give you a tease on the teas. It was a suitcase.

It was a suitcase illustration for me. The reason, Jason, it didn't work out for him in organized ministry is because these are the things he got into. The story is about to tell. But you'll find it humorous. It is good. All right. We'll see you in overtime.

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