Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 811 | Why Phil & Miss Kay Name All Their Dogs Bobo & Will People Still Be Married in Heaven?

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

Phil gives an update on the puppies of his beloved late hunting dog, Blue, and Jase finally figures out why his parents give every new dog the same name as the old one. The guys discuss the biblical clues about what the afterlife will be like, including the controversial topics of our recreated bodies and marriages and pets in heaven.  In this episode: Luke 20, verses 27-40; Acts 17, verses 24-28, 31-32; Matthew 22, verse 28; Deuteronomy 25, verses 5-6 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Test everything, hold on to the good, aboard every kind of evil. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right. So you test everything. He said, what did he say?

He said, if we go over it, you're like, no, I don't think so. Yeah, that's a simpler way of putting that, Dad is look into the mirror every once in a while and see what's looking back. Yep. Which is what you need to do. So a lot of, which we're going to get to our text in Luke 20, maybe. It seems to depend on Jay's.

But I did want to ask you one thing, Dad, because we started the last podcast talking about the hunt that led us down. We hunted a whole other. Well, you've heard that saying when you chase them. a rabbit, which means you go off on a tangent. Yeah. I chase some wood ducks. You chase some wood ducks. Which by the way.

It did lead to a really interesting discussion in the last. By the way, nine drakes. Really? And one hen. Wood duck. Beautiful bird. They were. Evidence.

So I have a duck question about that because it's as an anecdote. I couldn't give you an exact number. But I would say over all the years that I've hunted and all the wood ducks we've harvested, I would say 80 plus percent of the ducks we kill are drakes. And not on purpose. It's just that's what seems to be mostly around. Why is that, do you think? Because that's not necessarily the case.

Now, we try to shoot Maller Drakes and, you know, there's kind of with the others. But we're not trying to shoot Woody Drake's. But why is it that the, wouldn't you say that's about right? 80% probably what you kill are Drake? Have you ever seen a hunt where you have 10, Uh, Woody's and eight of them are hens, never,

I've never seen. That is true. I've actually never thought about that. Well, we kill way more drakes. That's what's flying around. He told me they knew the reason for that, but I can't remember what it was.

Maybe they're just, the hens don't fly as much as the drakes do or something. I don't know. There must, there's got a bit reason. I would say maybe that in the duck world, maybe the hen is smarter than the drake. Well,

now that could be. Some people may, claim that in the human world. I will say this. We said this before, but just in case you don't know, because there's a lot of non-duck hunters, Drake's in the duck world are the more beautiful and they're trying to impress the, the hens are typically drab. Yep.

Well, it's a camouflage because while they're nesting, they're vulnerable. Right, exactly. So it has a lot to do with reproduction and all that. I don't know. But probably attraction, too, wouldn't you think? I mean. I think it's all about keeping them. Amouflage during the nesting process, which is why they're brown.

They're always cut. They look like the grass that they're raising in. And the drakes will always have the... They nest in hollow trees. That they can fly into very fast. Right open. I'll tell you another fascinating thing that you have to wrap your head around. In the duck world, the females do all the talking.

Correct. The Drake says one thing. Or even the woody drake. That makes a little... That's right. Not very loud. Yeah. But when he does speak, he wants everybody to stop what they're doing and notice, notice him.

That's right. So make your necessary evaluations and applications. You could make a lot of human applications. So, Dad, I've had this week, I had two different people email me, so I'm going to ask you all this question since we've kind of opened with this hunting about Blues progeny because we've mentioned on the podcast for it. that blew, who has now gone on to wherever dogs go, and this last year. And he had already been retired a couple of years. He was up in Colorado with Burley.

But he had, there were a couple of puppies. And now they're... And the one that's currently being trained all of last year. He's about a year old. So the dog trainer said he is a dog, a good one. And he said, I named him, Duce. Yeah, because he's blue too. Duce and blue.

So, Duce. Is he a black or a yellow? He's a black. The female is a yellow. Yep. She's a yellow. You may have some attachment issue. I've noticed that you keep naming dogs the same name as the ones that passed on before.

Yeah, like Bobo. That's been appreciated, the appreciation of their past. exploits. That's true. And the order you get, you may just think. Now, the females... Maybe that is the answer to the question that everyone is thinking right now, because we're talking about the afterlife.

So, Jay, do dogs go to heaven? Well, that's right. The movie says all dogs go to heaven. Well, they do on Earth. Because Phil just takes them and they look the same and names them the same thing. So actually, they live on. Always have him. Always have him.

We got Bobo. he's about number five. Yeah, he's about the fifth one. But Bobo lives on. He lives on. The female child, the female dog of Blue, they named yappy, yappy, yappy. I guess. That's going to be hard to, you know.

I know when he told me that, what you do is, how do you call a yappy, appy, yappy, appy. When the duck, you know, these dog trainers. Oh. They, you know, they come up. with these systems on how to train a dog. And one of the things they do that I don't like is, and I'll share with you one thing that made blue better

than most retrievers I've seen, is they teach them when you shoot that they're not supposed to break. Because what if you miss? They don't want their dog out there. But really, if you think about it, what made blue so good is he was watching.

Now, train a dog to do that, and you got something. But that dog, nobody trained him to do that. He was smart. And he liked to hunt. Well, he just kind of figured it out. He liked, he got excited, which is why he was always. What I loved about that dog is when, you know, he, now what I hated about him is he had terrible manners and he whined and all that.

But I loved it where once in a while I'd hear a growl and I'd look up and there were some ducks. he was letting you know they're here they're here of course then he gets so excited he starts whining and now we're having to blow duck calls to cover up his noise because it's not natural in the world of animals to have a dog howling at at the duck he's not coming in because he's like there's a dog down there wanting to eat me he's a predator yeah so i find that fascinating because that dog, and even if he would jump out, he'd come right back because he was always watching. That's why I've seen him. I would see him like a duck would fall way off.

You didn't have to tell him back or he saw the duck fell. That's why he had such long retreat. Yeah, he saw the duck ball. It went and got him. That means if he sees him go down at a quarter of a mile, a dot, we would drive around there roughly where the duck fell, turn him out of the truck. I said, hunt him up, boo, and he'd take off many a time. He'd come back with the duck.

Sometimes the duck was dead. Sometimes he was crippled. We had a broke wing or something. But he'd bring him to you and jump in the back of the vehicle. We'd go on. So the progeny of Blue are not old enough to hunt yet. The question I got was, why haven't the guys been talking about them hunting? We're finishing up.

Blue is passed on to the heavenly realm. Okay. I think the Almighty probably work him in. Dogs are unique. Well, that brings up a good segue. Yeah. So in 1st John 3, to catch up with what we talked about last time, the afterlife compared to putting all your hopes and dreams in artificial intelligence. Because what's interesting about artificial intelligence?

Do you know what the biggest fear now is about artificial intelligence? Do you all know this? What is the biggest fear? that they're going to weed us out. Yeah, that they're going to destroy us. By creating artificial intelligence, people are going to use it in a way that we will destroy ourselves. Right, because they'll get so smart that then they'll take us out.

What is my point? Another reason to put your faith and trust in the only human that beat the grave. We just got an answer for everything. You just keep tearing them up, and we're going to knock. them out of the part. Jesus looks way better now that we have that fear floating around. That's true. That's called AI anxiety. His stops at intelligence. Not any words added that. Why they call them something intelligent. Artificial. Artificial. Artificial. Not Jesus. Right. Yeah, that's why we want real intelligence.

That's the artificial. And what's is pretty amazing because it really doesn't take deep intelligence, according to Paul and was at First Corinthians one, to have faith. That's right. I mean, you don't have to be the smartest person in the world to understand that Jesus can help you beat the grave. But it makes you one of the smartest people in the world because you got some really high IQ types that can't embrace it. That's why I'm proud to say, I'm not very smart, but I did go to Bible school. That's right. And I met a person named Jesus.

And boy, he really makes you look smart. Yeah, that's exactly right. Because what other situation or what other knowledge of someone could you have where no matter what comes up, you have a solution? Just think about that. I mean, no matter what anybody speaks to say, any topic. And they're like, well, if you only knew what I went through, I've heard that a thousand times. I'm going to say it doesn't matter.

Whatever it is, I got the solution. Then they tell me, they say, have you ever heard that before? I was like, no, never heard it before. But guess what? I know the solution is. That's right. It's true every time. It does.

Try to come up with something. Any life question. And it's really amazing because, Dad, you said it in the last podcast that it is written. The Bible still speaks a living, breathing document, which makes it different from any other book that's ever been a, written. Well, because it's about a person. Yeah. It's a love letter. And the one who wrote it, now

the spirit of the one who wrote it through people, through men, now lives in you. Yeah. So I made it... Two thousand years later, you can still understand it. It's still relevant. So I made a point during the bonus time about, which probably it'll bother some people, but

y'all went through first Sestown's four and the point being that we're going to be with the Lord forever. He's coming back. He's coming back. and we're going to be with him forever. And I made a point that I don't believe he's very far from us now. I think that's what caused a lot of problems in our society when people started saying, I think the phrase in the Bible for people who believe this was Epicureans, which, by the way, Thomas Jefferson was an Epicurean.

He believed in God, but he believed he was a million miles away, and he didn't necessarily venture into the affairs of people. That was his job. Yeah. Modern word was a deist. They believed in a deity, but they didn't believe he had any interaction with us. And this went back to the Sadducees. That's what they believe as well.

Well, right. And so I believe that when, you know, Acts 17, which when Paul said, I'm going to explain to you the unknown God, one of the points that he made to back up my point. Because I think people think, oh, man, when's Jesus going to get here? I guess it's a long way to heaven. no I don't think you're looking at this right he created the heavens and the earth but when he said the god in verse 24 explaining the unknown god which is act 1723 because they were worshipping and an inscription on an altar that said to an unknown god and he said what you worship as unknown I'm going to explain it to you the god have made the world and everything in it is lord of heaven and earth and remember remember that in being under Roman rule for him to say that means, which is what we talked about a couple of podcasts ago, when he said give to Caesar what is Caesar, which is this image,

he had put his image on a coin. You know, should I pay taxes? Right. Yeah. Give him his coins, but you give to God what is God. And we're made in the image of God. So what was he saying? You give him your life and everything that involves. So the thing about it, if you were to make an image out of a coin that belonged to God, there would be a picture of us on every coin, right? Exactly. Remain the image of God. So you can vote for whoever, but you give your allegiance to God. He's Lord of Heaven and our, look, and he doesn't live in temples built by hands. Well, doesn't this go along quite nicely with chapter 19 and 20? We have, we have. We have,

have become the holy temple of God. That's why Jesus was referring himself as the temple, and he was driving people out of what they said, the only place where God dwelt, which was the temple of Jerusalem, which also explains why the temple of Jerusalem has never been rebuilt, in my opinion. I agree. Jesus fulfilled this. It's where God and people interact. His name is Jesus. He is not served by human hands as if he needed anything, because he has, himself gives all men life, breath, and everything else. You just figured out the origin of humans. Same thing he wrote in Colossians 1. Yeah. He read in the last pocket. Yeah, in the bonus time. From one man, he made every nation of men that they should inhabit the whole earth. And people

have a record scratch moment on that because they're like, wait, how did that happen? I don't know, but he did. To inhabit the whole earth. And he determined the time set for him and the exact places where they should live. So you being born was not an accident. Correct. So God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him. Oh, what's this next one? Though he is not far from each one of us.

So if you think, oh, man, it's taking Jesus forever. Like he's way off and oblivious to what's going on down there. He is in full knowledge. trust me, of everything that's going on, and he is near, he's near. He's not far from us. Yeah. So I just think that that's how a lot of these false doctrines get built. Because they just think, well, why is this stuff happening?

Well, let's read and you'll figure it out. Right. That's why we're here. That's why he gave us the Holy Spirit. We're to do the very things that he was doing. What did he do while he was on the earth? He battled evil. The spirits of evil.

and the demon possessions. He helped those who were afflicted with diseases and illnesses and leprosy. And he helped those who were poor. He took up for those who had experienced injustice. The people that had been cast out of society like tax collectors, and he had conversations with them, and he offered them hope. He talked about this new kingdom that he was bringing. He then proved himself to be worthy of what God had laid,

upon his son, which was our sins. And then he was resurrected, which was really where we're headed. And he gives a preview in what we're fixed to read. But that resurrection was the game changer. You can break down society as we know it from the beginning of time on when that happened. That was the pinnacle of anything happening on the earth is when he came back from the dead. So this idea about the closeness of God and his operating in the realm he's in with other beings too, by the way, angels, other things. It's interesting because in the overtime segment, I was talking about the Marvel movies and how they've tried to recapture some of what we're reading in the text.

But, you know, Jay's 30 years ago, and I was a Star Trek fan, was Star Trek, not the old old one, but the newer one with Picard. group. So they had a group of people. I've mentioned them before on here. They were beings that were outside time and space. They were called the queue. And then they had this one actor that was kind of the representative of these people, this, or I don't know, beings, but he could just pop in anytime he wanted to. Yeah. And they were monitoring. Everything was going on with our timeline. And then they would just pop in and out. But the show made them kind of like funny, like they were always just causing mischief and all this. But to, to the point again, that was 30 years ago,

people have been repeating what Jay's just read that Paul talked about on Mars Hill, which dad, you and I were there, 2,000 years ago, he was talking about this, that they're making science fiction TV shows about it. I could see gold, silver, stone, all that stuff. Yeah.

You just look out across there, it's just a field of statutes. Yeah. of statues. That's right. And you remember you looked up over your shoulder, Dad, and there was... They ruled the world. There was the Acropolis up above, remember?

Yeah. And so when he was talking about this, he's looking back over his shoulder, looking up at that. I never forget that because when I preached the gospel to them, people who had never laid eyes on me. We're crying. Yeah. You quoted this passage. I quoted that, and they all... They started crying and then people got nervous.

Yeah. Because they looked at you and they thought, who is this guy? What is he talking about? There were foreigners there. He said a day when he would judge the world with justice by the man he's appointed, he's given, you say, what in the world? How could that happen? He is given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead.

Some of them, when they heard that about the resurrection of the dead, some of them sneered. But others said, we want to hear you some more on this subject. That's a good word. Yeah. It's one of those words that sounds like, are you sneering at the possibility of being raised, imperishable? That's what they were doing. Living forever. That's a good question to ask people.

Yeah. You are sneer. Fast forward, the Roman Empire and look at the American Empire. Not much difference now. No, very similar. So, I want to say this because we made this bold statement that no matter. matter what you come up with, Jesus addresses. So I want to read something, and then we'll get to our text.

We're just getting you ready for it, because this is so awesome. But in 1st John 3, which I made a huge point about Jesus' point, I believe, in this illustration in Luke with the Sadducees, who didn't believe those are resurrection. Correct. Is that what we do in our modern churches, and I think I made this on the bonus time last podcast, but I want to repeat it because I think it's profound. A lot of people in our churches today, they preach the wrath of God, they talk about hell,

and they talk about the afterlife to try to get people to have a relationship with God. And what Jesus does is by this withering rebuke of the Sadducees, and it was a withering rebuke. In Matthew's version of it, they come up with this scenario about and we'll read it in a second. But when this woman, let's say a woman, was married seven times, and I forgot the, I think it's in Deuteronomy 24, they called it a something marriage. Leverite. Leverite.

I guess that comes from Levi. Yeah, Deuteronryme 25, 5, and 6. I was close off the top of my hand. I was off one chapter. So 25, Deuteronomy 25. Because in their day, you know, women were not as a. embraced as they are today. And so basically when her husband died,

she could, there was no means to support for herself. She didn't have a son, especially. She was just in bad shape. So one of her kin folks would marry her. Now, you know, I know that sounds kind of Jerry Springerish like,

but that was the rule and that was the law and that's just what you did. That's right. So these Sadducees were trying to make this look stupid. Because you got to remember, they didn't believe in the resurrection. Right. So you have to keep that in mind.

This is a stupid illustration based on something that was written in the law that we already find a little bit weird. Because by doing that, they want to make Jesus look stupid. How are you going to answer this, which we said, the bold statement we made is that no matter what you come up with, he's got to answer for it. And he did. They came up with a scenario. Well, what if a woman is married seven times at the resurrection? Who's she going to be married to? Slam dunk, drop the mic.

What's he going to say? He has no answer for this. And so we'll read what his response was, and it is a dozy, filled with power and glimpses of what the afterlife is going to be. Probably the most insightful passage about the next life that we see. And it's very deep and hard to get your head around because us as mere humans living on on earth, we're earthlings. It's hard for us to wrap our head around what's going to happen when our bodies are

transformed from perishable to imperishable, mortal to immortal, dishonored to glorify. Glorify, that's First Grandin's 15, weak to strong. It's hard for you to visualize that. Just like I made the point that when I was using Phil, because Phil's past has been made into a movie, it would be hard for you, if not impossible. for you to visualize the spiritual transformation that Christ did in your life before you were converted, for you heard of Jesus, for your encounter. You would have never imagined.

That's right. So for us, if a guy is telling you exactly, he's like, now here's what's going to exactly happen when you get your new body. Well, this guy, if he knows exactly how it's going to happen and where we're going to go and exactly, well, he's not telling the truth. That's right. But we just have visions of it. And I think it's because the Lord realizes they're never going to figure out all the details

because how would you know that transformation? Can you know what you could know? So having said that, I wanted, though, to answer two things that y'all just brought up that you think, well, how does Jesus have an answer for? Number one, we asked, do dogs go to heaven? They made a movie. Hollywood address that. I didn't watch that movie because I couldn't get past the title.

But I'm sure some people did, and they're wondering. that. And number two, Al brought up Star Trek, another Hollywood venture, that had people beaming to places to and front. They would, they'd say, hey, Scotty, beam me up. And I think a lot of people think, just like what I said, they preach wrath, the afterlife, so you'll have a relationship with Jesus. And I think Jesus's point is, you get to know me.

and you'll know that you have eternal life, which is 1 John 513. It says that, I write these things to you who believe in the name of Jesus and by knowing, because you will know that you have eternal life. I kind of butchered that, but it says,

I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. when you encounter Jesus and you get to know him, you can know that you have eternal life. That's different from saying, get, you know, have a relationship with God based on the fact that I've scared you into the afterlife. It's different.

So, but in 1st John 3, watch what he says. This is very, very comforting. And this is how you can figure out some of the glimpses of what's going to happen in the afterlife. 1 John 3 and verse 2 dear friends now we are children of God and that goes back to John 1 Jesus came to that which wasn't his own but he gave us the right to become children of God through Jesus John chapter 1 and it says and what we will be has not yet been made known that's why I said that we don't know exactly every detail of how this is going to be.

But then he says this, but we know that when he appears, or when it is made known, when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall seem as he is. And by the way, the practical application of that is, everyone who has this hope purifies himself just as he is pure. That's your motivation. Well, what was Jesus like post-resurrection? And it just so happened, y'all didn't know I was going to do this. But he addresses two of the things indirectly of what we brought up.

You say, he talked about do dogs go to heaven? No, but he did do this. In John chapter 20, he miraculously, post-resurrection now, he's been raised. The empty tomb happened at the beginning of 20. And so in 21, they're fishing. And he says, hey, friends, in verse 5, have you caught any fish? No, the answer. Now, they didn't know who he was at this point.

He was on the bank. He was on the bank. You know, friends, have you any fish? Haven't you any fish? No. Well, throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find something. This will sound familiar to him because he did the same thing pre-resurrection. When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

Fast forward to verse 10, and he says, bring me some of the fish that you have just caught. Now, you got to remember, this is Jesus. He's come back from the dead. He has a new body. He has experienced what we're looking forward to experiencing. Well, Peter got the 153 fish, and Jesus said in verse 12. I love this. Come and have breakfast.

Come eat with a person who was dead three days ago. Jesus came, took the bread, gave it to him, and did the same with the fish. This was now the third time. And there was other times, though, post-resurrection when Thomas didn't believe, and he said, put your hand in my side. Yeah, hand in my side out. Then he said something from his face. He said he got anything to eat.

Now, so he's eating fish post-resurrection. So I know that whatever happens to our new bodies, if we want to eat some fish, because we're going to be like him, I just read it first, John 3. Sound like to me, you're more than welcome to you. He did. Your body will be able. So will there be fish in this new creation of, of heaven and earth for though there could be.

I mean, he ate some. It seems more likely than not based on what happened in the 40-day period. And Jesus had the ability to make his body go back to the way it was maligned on the cross. True. And I'm assuming it didn't just stay like that. Like, then he could just make it completely whole. So he had the ability to recreate the spear in the side and the name. Hell holes in the hands, in the wrist, and feet.

Exactly. Upon command. So you see my point, because my point is when I read First Thessalonians 4 and talked about the point of it being not so much being caught up in together with Jesus in the air, which is people make that the point about what they call the rapture. The point was you're going to be with the Lord forever. Correct. He said it twice.

First Thessalonians 4th, the last first, and then First Thessalon is 5. He doubles down and says the same thing. And he says it will motivate and change your life so much you will live a different way, just knowing that. Exactly. And so I made the point in the bonus time that in Genesis, this whole thing started with God creating the heavens on the earth for us. And then he dwelt with them. Think temple like we have been referring to. God is intersecting with human beings.

Now, when did it go dreadfully wrong? When Adam and Eve sin. It's the first sin. And we had a separation. And then Jesus is introduced in chapter 3 and verse 15. He will crush the evil one through your offspring. I mean, Jesus is coming. It starts off right through there.

Fast forward to Revelation 21. And now you see this picture of the church coming out, down from heaven and dwelling with God. You don't need any light. He'll be your light. There's no tears. There's no curse. the things that that says. It's just crazy that when you talk about the temple where God is meeting people and then Jesus claiming to be the temple and then he's given us post-resurrection,

the Holy Spirit for people to become the holy temple of God on the earth, it just seems crazy to me that people would think that somehow another heaven and earth is not going to be something where we can live again and know ourselves, but we're just an imperishable version of our transform power. So just to only think that we're going to go off and float around somewhere, and that just seems crazy to me. Here's Jesus post-resurrection, having a meal, multiple meals, with various disciples.

Remember the one at the table in Luke that we'll read on the road to Amas? he broke bread and then all of a sudden they recognized he's having a meal with people as a resurrected person right but he's also to go back so there's the kind of our dog's going to be in heaven and in part of the new creation you know this new heaven and new heaven and new earth might as well be fish fish would be okay so i it looks like to me that would i mean animals or animals it's possible so that's my answer What about the beaming? Well, in chapter 20 of John, in verse 19, this is post-resurrection, on the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, because Jesus has been crucified, so they're thinking, what if they crucify us next for following him?

Jesus came and stood among them. Well, how did he get through the doors? They were locked. That's real beaming there. That's right. That's, he beamed without having to say, Scotty, you know, the atoms and molecules have been broken down in his new world with his new body that he no longer needed a door or unlocked. It was done by either him becoming the same as the atoms in the door and then reappearing the beaming as Jay's talked about on the other side, or. he had dimensional control where he opened a door that we can't see to go through a door that we could see, and he pops out the other side.

So my point is, the new heaven and new earth, whatever that is, you're just going to have a lot more skill set. So that's why you only see images of it. Right. But the point is... The only one we know that has happened to was... that 40 days that we get these glimpses of in the text. Yeah. The point is real intelligence, the best thing you can do is not die, is to live forever.

And it seems like all the problems you have on Earth have now been solved. I mean, who hadn't been frustrated when you lock your keys in your vehicle? Yeah. When the new having a new earth, that'll be a problem. You just pop right in there yourself. Pop right in there. And you don't even need, you don't even need the five anymore. You just kind of go.

People are like, oh, I can't relate. I'm just so scared. I don't know. No, we're going to live the way this was supposed to go. And so now with all that said, let's read the text. The text. I mean, we spent two hours getting ready for this. We've actually done all the footwork on the front end.

We're in Luke 20, verse 20. verse 27. And this is fresh off the paying tax. Paying taxes. It's just to reset it. So remember we said he's sitting in the temple courts and now he's teaching. And he's usually doing it with a question. They ask him a question and he asked him a question back and then he then he calls them. And by the way, we didn't say this but and our job is to speak truth to power. Yep. That these earthly powers. Yeah. I mean there's a whole

book to the Romans where Paul says Jesus is Lord. That's right. How do you think the Romans felt about that? Yeah, because they like being the gods of the earth. And he even addressed, like Jesus, about paying taxes. He did. He's like, go ahead, pay them. Romans 13.

It's in there. But your allegiance is Jesus' Lord. We're not going to be stressed out about who the president is when it comes to our relationship. And we're not going to be stressed out about that. And we're not going to be stressed out about when the Lord's coming back. And we're not going to be stressed out if they kill us for telling the powers to be like Jesus did. Because you can't kill us.

When he was talking to Pilate that, hey, you know, my kingdom, it's not from here. It's for here. That's right. I mean, that's basically what he was telling. That's what he said. He's like, oh, you're a king? All right. So out of that conversation about Caesar, here's what he says.

He's still on the temple courts. Some of the Sadducees, and we've described them what they believe, because they were different than the Pharisees, teachers of the law of the Sanhedron, who say there is no resurrection, came to Jesus with a question. Do we have another question? Teacher, they said, Moses wrote for us that if a man's brother dies

and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and have children for his brother. Now, that's the Leverite. Do it around to me, 25. If you want to go, drink you a cup of coffee, before you start reading Leviticus or Deuteronomy. That's right.

It's derail more Bible reading through the years. They took the old law and they want to make Jesus look stupid. And look, do people do that today? They want to make Jesus look stupid. And so that's where you follow them. They want to make them look stupid. Which is to Jesus' point of the art let you know. So now they're going to get crazy with this thing because what they've said so far is just out of Deuteronomy.

Now there were seven brothers. So now we're getting into the hypothetical in the question. The first one married a woman and died childless. The second and then third married her. In the same way, the seven died leaving no children, which think about the odds of that that this would happen. So it's already out there in crazy land. Finally, the woman died too.

Now here's the question. They don't believe in the resurrection. Now then at the resurrection, which I'll put in parentheses, that we don't believe in, whose wife will she be since the seven were married to her? So in their minds, this crazy, convoluted question was the showstopper. So here's Jesus' response to these guys. The people of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered worthy of taking part in that age,

talking about the kingdom, forward, whatever happens post-resurrection, and in the resurrection from the dead, will neither marry nor be given in marriage. and they can no longer die, for they are like the angels. He didn't say where they were angels. He said they were like the angels, meaning that they don't die. They are God's children since they are children of the resurrection. But in the account of the bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise,

for he calls the Lord the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. Now, these were all people that had died before Moses. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. For to him, all are alive. If you're in him, right? Verse 39. Some of the teachers of the law, who did believe in the resurrection, responded, well said, teacher, we're with you.

And no one dared to ask him any more questions. So that ended the Q&A portion of this crazy thing. Let's take our last word. So a few observations. Now, I like Luke's account better because I'm one, because people immediately fast forward in their like forget the context. They just immediately go, well, that's disappointing. I'm not going to be married in heaven.

Oh, Lisa hated this text for 15 years. Now, in Luke's account, you can make an argument what a lot of people do because he says the people of this age marry and are given in marriage, which would mean when you think about it, you could make the point saying, well, you are already married. You're not going to marry somebody else when you get there or give somebody in marriage. That's not going to happen. But what if you were already marrying?

Now look, I'm just going to say you're thinking way too low. Yeah. But I'm going to explain it. And so then he says, but those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age and the resurrection for the dead will neither marry or be given in marriage. for they can no longer die, for they are like the angels. So if you read Matthew's version, though, which I think we do need to, because there's a couple things he says that can be confusing. So it's in Matthew 22, 23.

The same day, Sadducees who say there's no resurrection said, we've already read this part, and that's pretty well the same. So to skip to 28, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven since all of them were married to her? Now, I like this version here how it starts because Jesus replied, you are in error. There's no sugar coating. Yeah. Oh, let me give the redneck translation of that. Wrong.

You're an idiot. Most time he doesn't do that. No, he doesn't. He just, raw. Because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God. And I like this. I like Matthews a little better personally because he identifies the problem with coming up with this argument. Because he already knows that they're just trying to make him look stupid.

Right. For believing in the resurrection and afterlife. At the resurrection, people would neither marry nor be given in marriage. which that does say the same. Yeah. They will be like the angels in heaven, but about the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you,

which makes more sense when he said, you don't know the scriptures? And we'll talk about the power of God in a second. I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

So I'll say this. The thing that stands out to me is he uses their names. Yep. And the reason that he chose Exodus and the burning bush and Moses is because the Sadducees only believed in the first five books. That's right. So he picked one of those books and said, you don't know the scriptures is the power of God. Number one, we have a bush that's burning, there's not burning up.

How's that happening? Which if you can make that happen, what's death? And then he said, I am the gut. Well, those guys died centuries ago. That's right. And he's talking about them in the present tense. And he wasn't saying a version of them. I am the God of them.

Yep. Present tense. Well, just wrap your head around that. Right. That means if you have a relationship with God, that's forever. Well, it seems that way. That's right. I am.

And that's why when you go to Luke, when he said, he is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are. life. Right. I mean, what an incredible statement here. You enter in a relationship with God and that that's based on his love. That thing's forever.

You're like, well, yeah, but what if you die? Well, that's his point. So I think I will say this for I get y'all's comments. Because I think what bothers people, they're like, oh, there's no sex in heaven. Is that what you're saying, really? I mean, what a bummer. Well, think about sex on earth. Yeah.

It was designed by God. It's awesome. It was designed for a husband and a wife. Jesus doubles down, double downs on that many places, Matthew 19. You know, for this reason, I made the male and female, and for this reason a man be united to his wife, the two become one flesh. But then it says for what God has joined together,

let not man separate. And so here's what I think. I think, yes, we'll know my wife. Just like he named Abraham, Isaac, and I'm going to know my wife in heaven. And I'm assuming that there's going to be no need for sex, because at the end of the day, sex is the way the earth is populated. This is more of the ones who were populated being populated with imperishable bodies altogether. It's not like we're going to start making celestial beings or, you know, in our need for that. Yeah.

So I'm assuming that I will know my wife, she's my wife. But sex, it puts it in the proper life. Whatever we're going to be experiencing, way better than sex. That's just a temporary thing. That's why I think we are created what we are. And it's like what you said, Phil, and I really have this idea based on what you said. Because at some point in your life, you said, you know, I thought about having sex with your mom, which was kind of an awkward conversation. He said, but I noticed at some point, you know, we could just make some popcorn and sit on a couch.

Yeah. Because that's what happens with age. You put it in its proper place. The body starts breaking down. And then all of a sudden, it was just not that, well, think about our imperishable body. think about us being with the Lord forever. Whatever's happening way better than sex. That's it. So to prove your point, if you think about it, Jesus came to earth. He was born. He was a little baby.

He was a little boy. He was a teenager. He was what we would call college age. And he made it all the way to he was 30 years old. He did three years of ministry. And then he dies. Then he's resurrected. If sex was so great and such a big deal,

why would he never experience it himself? I mean, he shows you that there are larger things than that. So he didn't even experience marriage. But you said the important point in your sermon. When you figured out that you and your wife, Lisa, the brother and sister relationship in Christ. That's right. He became Lord, and then we bonded in a unique way. And you're exactly right.

Now, we're almost 60. And we look back at it at the 30-year-old version of ourselves, and we're thinking, man, we miss so much. Why you want sex or popcorn? Popcorn. But here's my point. You know why I think there's... Because that's, and that's what I think heaven will be.

I agree with the 100%. You still have the relationship. Look, your wife, the one you spend 50 years with here on Earth or 60, in your case, Dad, is the person you're connected to at so many different levels? Of course you're going to be close to them in heaven. Why would you not be? But you're not going to be, you're both going to be eternal beings now. Here's a better way to say it.

My wife is my best friend as far as people that I can see. But we're both married to Jesus. That's right. Because the church that's coming out of heaven in Revelation 21 is the bride of Christ. Well, who's the groom? Jesus. Do you realize there'll be no single people in heaven? There'd be no divorce people.

Nobody wants to talk about that. You say, well, how do you know that? Because they're married to Jesus. That's right. They're that that's they're not giving him. He's making all this right. And if somebody's over there driving down the road saying, oh, I'll know my wife and she'll be my friend, but we can't have sex anymore. I think your faith needs to go deeper.

That's right. Because think about it. How many troubles in this life and dad you said before. And Paul said it. When you marry, you bring on many troubles because how many troubles have been because of sex and because of marriage has gone wrong? I mean, that's a big struggle on a consistent basis. All right, so we did read the text. We scratched the hem of the garment.

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