Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 813 | Jase Is Trapped in a Nightmare of Matchy PJs & His Gift for Missy Totally Backfires

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

Phil and Miss Kay are finally passing the torch of their traditions to the younger Robertson generations, who are happy to take up the mantle! Jase gets a lesson in tactfulness from all the shopping that Missy does during the holidays, though Jase just gets his family the same gift for every occasion. The guys consider the example that Jesus sets of “true religion” by helping the poor, dirty, and sick rather than giving the superficial show of faith that the Jewish leaders of his day presented. In this episode: Luke 20, verses 41-47; Romans 1, verse 5; Philippians 3, verses 18-21; 1 Corinthians 15 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. I'm still here in North Carolina because as we've told you before, we usually filmed two podcasts together. So I'm still here, had the wedding, Layla's wedding, was New Year's Eve, which was, you know, I think Lisa said it'll be 123, 123 will be her wedding date, which I didn't realize that. But one of the things I didn't mention when we were talking about the wedding earlier was that it was spiritual. I was talking about that and just so godly and good and just so full of energy. But one of the things that touch me so much was that Fred, who is Zach and Jill's youngest son.

So I guess he's Layla's youngest brother. Yeah. And thanks for bringing back the name Fred, Zach. Yeah. I mean, that's a throwback. We're bringing it back. I like it. And so Fred is up front.

You know, he's part of the wedding party. and held his friend. He's 12. 12 years old. And so I'm watching him, you know, because you're looking at all the people, everybody's wrapped attention. Mia's up there, Jay. Well, about, I don't know, halfway through the vows,

he just starts crying. He lost it. I mean, just like crying, like having to wipe his eyes on his coat. And, you know, you just, he's in front of this large audience of people, but he can't stop. And at, at first I was looking at it, and I thought, well, that's a neat thing. Well, then the more. I thought about his older sisters getting married and I don't know what, you know, got to him so much.

But then I started crying. I had to look away. I had to look away because I thought, well, this is going to be bad if I just start bawling. He's a sweet kid. Later that night, he goes, he said, you know what, I got thinking about it. He said, I didn't really lose anything. I just gained a brother. So he's reframed it now.

Now Dawson. So he was thinking about losing his sister. I think he's just like, she's leaving, you know, but, you know, Well, it was really touchy that. I mean, just show me how close your kids are. Yeah, they're close. Now, I'm a little upset with Fred right now, though. He has, oh, he has been creating havoc, Jace.

I mean, havoc in the yard. Because you know what he got for Christmas? Uh-oh. Don't tell me a metal detector. He got a metal detector for Christmas. Oh, boy. And now my, my, and he goes out every day, Ben got him a metal detector. Yeah.

Or Grant, I want him. I want him got him a metal detector. And I mean, it looks like the movie's... Well, I noticed when I came in, it looked like you'd been doing some digging. I thought you might have had some kind of stuff. And then he brings in, like, all this stuff. Because my house is built in 18, 1890. So, I mean, I've literally got, I looked at them back in my truck, like, in the back seat of my truck.

And there's this towel, and I pick it up to try to pull it out. And I'm like, it's like, and then I realize I open, it's wrapped up. I open it up. And there's all this iron and, like, I mean, I don't even know what it's this. It's all kind of, I mean, all kinds of. So I appreciate the influence, Chase. That's Jason's influence. The revolution has begun.

A 12-year-old son of Zach has started the revolution. Yes. And now my yard looks like a Robertson yard. We're going to join the ranks of the Robertsons. We're going to dig up the earth. That's right. So, Jay, you started the trip. Well, the Lord started it.

with putting those illustrations about finding lost treasure. So you need to make your spiritual analysis on that. Yeah, I do. I need to rain it in a little bit too, though. Well, it's funny you said that out. We did this year for Christmas, one of our Christmas celebrations, kind of with Missy side of the family. Mia organized just kind of a worship night.

And so we just sang worship songs. and that was a couple of Christmas songs. And so, but every time Missy, you know, she stood up because she was all about this, every song she would start to sing, she just started crying on every song. I was like, babe, look, I'm not sure why you're crying so much, but when we lose you, you know, we need your voice here.

When you stop singing, this slowly turns into a great, idea that's not being executed very well. It takes a voice. Well, Mia can sing and Reed can sing. I don't know about what you can Cole? Oh, yeah. Everybody can sing but me. And but I don't know, Missy's like one of the strong singers.

And I don't know, maybe Carina was kind of looking at me. And she's our daughter from Nicaragua that we acquired. And so me and her sat beside each other just to kind of make us feel better. That's our section. Is that the joyful noise section? Yeah, joyful noise section. Singing might not in your heart section. Not allowed.

But I really like that flavor to Christmas, though, just the family gathering up. And, of course, you know, we have a lot of talented singers. But it is moving. I even noticed that our, Jay said our big Christmas this year, it really was kind of a passing of the torch. because last year we met at Jason Missy's house, first time we had met at mom and dads because we've literally, when all the Robertsons are together,

dad, when all your patriarchy is together, we're too big for your house. There's too much work. It's so much work. I saw poor Jeff and Jessica, you know, and I walked in just the way they looked. I thought, yep, I remember that last year. It's just a load to have 75 people in your house

and to cook and be in church. And to feed them. And so we're always kind of committed to Louisiana cuisine. And so dad always, dad and mom always did it. It was too, way too much for them now to feed that many people. What did y'all do? So we kicked the fried shrimp to the curb. That was a long tradition that we stopped because you can't feed fried shrimp to 60 or 70 people.

It's too much work. So this year we did, Jeff did a jumblyai. Lisa made some white beans because if you're from Louisiana, if you're going to eat jumbulli, you got to have some white beans to put on your jumbly. Go do the big pot or like a smaller pot? Not as not the huge one like the one you make, but kind of medium size. But then Missy, fresh off her success of the crawfish pie. She brought the crawfish pie.

Crawfish pie and she made the shrimp all grotton. Hey, how about that? They were delicious. They were delicious. So you give the thumbs up. Thumbs up, double thumbs up. Phil, did you eat them? Did you eat the crawfish pie?

Oh, yeah, that's good. Everything was delicious. Yeah, and the, no, she did crawfish all grotting. Okay, I thought it was shrimp. I couldn't. But it was really good. And then she did some kind of, somebody did a crawfish dip. And I don't know if it's Missy or somebody else, but I don't know who made it, but it was delicious.

So I thought, well, Dad, we have officially now crossed over that your progeny can cook dishes as well as you and mom. That's when you know you've succeeded. Now, my progeny did crawfish as well. Max went and bought, which I would not recommend this. They were like boiled crawfish, but they were frozen in a bag. So I guess they, you, you re-boil them. And I'm like, wow. And I'm like, why would you, why would you do that?

Well, he, they ate, him and Fred ate them. This was about a week and a half ago. I go in the garage yesterday. And I mean, the odor. They left the house. I searched for it. There was a trash bag with crawfish shells. Oh, I was hot.

So we got that going on too. The problem with your progeny is your sons. Because I watched the Alabama game last night, which they lost, which this will be a week out. And he's a huge Alabama fan. But just watching his reactions to the game, I thought, yeah, you've got some strong-willed... I got five strong-willed children. I mean, they're great. They're godly.

But, man, you talk about your boys. You talk about get into some stuff. So I was just watching that unfold last night. Of course, I felt bad for him. He needed some help. He's the only Alabama fan room full of people that had given him a hard time. So it was kind of hard for him. I kind of felt so hard for it.

But anyway, well, we, we did, I just thought it was, it was good. I think people with larger families and you break down into smaller groups because we did the fried shrimp on one of our.

Yeah, smaller guys. We did the same thing. Yeah. But I'm going to tell you, this Missy's transformation into when I first married her in the cooking world. He's come a long way. Come a long way. It is almost supernatural Christmas miracle.

I mean, and now that confidence, she's just taking on everything. I mean, I hate to tell you all this, because don't adjust your screens, those of you who are watching us. So she made four sweet potato pies for that Robertson 75 gathering that only two pieces were eaten up because there were so many desserts. I made my pies. And I'm sure they knew that Ms. Kay, she's retired from the cooking end of it. And they thought, oh, somebody tried that. But I'm going to tell you something. For every Roberson member who thought, oh, Miss Kay didn't make those, I'm not eating those, because I was that guy for 30 years.

Whenever I went to a gathering and I saw a- Because you normally eat a whole pie of moms. Well, I hate to tell you this, that since no one ate the pie because they were scared of the unknown. You kept a-y-y-eight four pies. I ate four pies in five days. That's good. So that's why I'm taking so many deep breaths. And I keep looking at Al right now for you who are watching. And I realize that Zach, he set this design where him and Al, they're seating there. But he actually put a halo.

What it looks like to me, there's a halo over Al's head. And I thought, is there some kind of spiritual reference here? It could be. So, Al, you look like an angel to me. It's probably my spirit just coming out naturally. as to this group who the Lord's light is shining on. But I mean, she has that pie. It's not close to being.

It is absolutely, I mean, it is the Jesus moment that we left off where he said, now, post-resurrection, he said, now I'm sending you. Somewhere in there, Missy got it. And she's been sent out of Kay's kitchen. with the power to make the greatest pie on earth, Ms. Kay's recipe on the sweet potato pies. And I tested it thoroughly with four pies. I've had a lot of bathroom time,

but I've lived to tell about it. Yeah, sweet potato is pretty powerful, tubular when you eat a lot of them. You've got to be careful with that. His dad would say there can be a lot of lower bowel mischief. Mischief. Well, Missy said we have all these pies. you need to throw them out. It's been after about day three. And I was like, we're not throwing out those pines. We got two more days. I'm going to systematically eat all those pies. Just give me one more day.

So last night, I finished it off. That's the sweet potato going a long way. I do love it that our family loves looking back and taking the best of what was there. Yesterday, we're here in North Carolina. It's, of course, New Year's Day was yesterday. And we were we ate the cabbage and the black eyep peas and pork roast. Melissa made all that. Lisa made the cornbread. We had a lot of stuff to go with it. But it was really cool because it was like I remember doing that when I was a kid,

you know, kind of the traditional things. You know, we're so we're tired as that making all the cabbage. So because cabbage is supposed to be representative of the dollars. The dollars. And you got the black eyep peas, which is luck, which we don't really believe in luck. We believe in God's providence. But we participated in that here. And it's just, I guess the whole thing for me this holiday has been next generation.

Like we're passing it along. We're taking what we learn from our parents and grandparents. And now we're passing that to our children and grandchildren. Yeah. So it really is kind of. It's weird that some of those meals you eat and that first bite it could take you back. Yeah. I made a corn and shrimp soup last week, and which I hadn't done in a long time,

but I immediately was transported back to my aunt Judy's house. Yeah, that's right. Which is where we spent most of our holidays with the big Roberts together. Well, the more I do Christmas, I mean, it's, I love how it's transitioned in. It's mainly about Jesus. You know, it's about worship, you know, at our house because we did three different, I guess, get-togethers at my house during the week. And then the food has escalated now that Missy has taken on that role.

But the presents are way down the list. And, you know, I give all my kids a $100 bill, and I've been doing it for the last four or five years. I guess since I could obtain $100 bills the last four or five years. And so, you know, at first, Mrs. was like, well, I mean, why you give them a $100 bill? But Mia this year, so I thought about maybe I should just do some shopping like everybody else. And my daughter, Mia, when she came home for the week, she said, Dad, I'm so excited about the present you're going to give me.

And I said, was it the same one I gave you last year? She said, yeah, I'm counting on it. So forget going to Dollar General. You better just keep that. I said, I'm taking this. Of course, Jay. I will give you one piece of advice that the 100 is the new 50. so you might want to up the inflation's been bad so you might want to up your 100 well i gave i gave my

hundred and everybody was happy but then i also played a parody because you know we don't do many gifts but they all have their gifts you know and so i i just noticed how to fit in so for you who are people like me out there there's not really into the materialistic idea of christmas i've noticed what you say and it's it's what i noticed with you when my wife goes shopping, there's a grid you go through. So when they open the present, because I wanted to tell you this, Phil, because I thought you might struggle with this also.

So no matter what comes out, you say, isn't that cute? Because they say that about everything. And I've never approached it at any time. And then you, so then you followed up. Dan, have you ever said in your life, isn't that cute? Has those words ever come out of your life? I never got on that level. Yeah, so here's the grid for the shoppers, Phil, the people who get into the presents.

They say, isn't that cute? And then the next question is, is it on sale? Did you get that on sale? Because there's a sale for everything, especially during Christmas time. Even they'll mark it up for what it normally is, then give it 30% off to where it was before Christmas. Because you have to be able to say, I got this. on sale. And so, and to prove my point, Mia got Cole some kind of sweater thing, but on the tag, she wrote a note and said, this was $139.00. And I got it for $29.95.

Just so you know. Just so you know how big a deal this was. Not only is it cool and awesome, but I noticed that. And so then you have to. come with numbers so you you ask now when they're shopping they add one one other thing because if when they say how much is it they say isn't that cute how much is it well you don't get much a hundred dollars anymore if it's overpriced they'll they'll say that's ridiculous you know they'll never buy that but but when the so they when they bought it though there had to be a sale involved so you're like did you get that on sale so i did this as a parody thinking they would notice that i was making fun of them nobody noticed because i played the game oh in there

cute. Did you get that on sale? Oh yeah. And then here's the key phrase. Wow, you saved a lot of money. Because I notice when my wife comes in, she says, you're not going to believe how much money I saved. And I'm thinking, well, didn't you just go shopping? But that was 20 years ago when I would say that. But it's all about the justification. So it's like, I went out and saved tons of money today. Look at what I got. So there. It only had to spend 500 bucks to do it. You don't want to ask that, but you'll just say, boy, you really saved a lot of money.

You really did. He did a good job. Great. And if you just follow that grid, you can go right on through. Yeah, I may get there one of these days. I doubt it. But you left out one days. What about the, that's just ridiculous.

Well, that's at the store that happens. If it's too much. That's ridiculous. don't say that while you're opening the press. No, and I left out the return issue, which you don't want to bring that. Last time I checked, you don't get a whole lot with $100. Well, when they say, look, when they say I'm going to go return some things that I got from Christmas, I used to think, oh, yeah, they're going to go get their money back.

No. No. That is code for, there's a new shopping spree that's fixed to happen. Because I'm going to return this, get that money, and then I'm going to spend that. that 10 times more on anything else I see. And so then that shopping experience is actually greater than the original one. The return money is like government money. That's free.

That's free money. That didn't cost me anything. I got the money back from just turning this in. So I'm going to go spend that and some more money, which is what happens with the government. I got another one for you. I got two more for you that I've uncovered this year of how they can save money for you. is when if you have credit card points, and they purchased it on your points,

and it was free. Yeah. So if you get like, like I got a, one of my cards, they get cashed back and I got a, I had, you know,

I've never cashed out the cash balance in years. I've got $1,500 bucks in there. So that money got spent on Amazon, but everything that was bought out of that money was, it was free. That's right. Free gifts. I was like,

I was like, it's not, it's not free. I said, it's not free. You did pay for it. You had to spend money to get it. And then Jill had another account where she had made some money in that she had money in, and everything that she spent out of that count was free too.

That was free. Oh, that costs us anything. I didn't. I, that came out of my account. I was like, so we're helping, we're helping each other adapt to that tension that's always in the shopping world. Yeah. So we had two Christmas miracles, and I'm going to use that word really loosely on the shopping end of it. So I actually, in a moment of weakness, thought, well, I already get my wife something.

And so I said, this year I'm going to just listen. And I'm going to try to surprise her. Anything she likes, anything she mentioned, I was listening. So we're watching football one day, because my wife, she loves football, much as I do. and they had some kind of special military driven angle at outfitting the coaches and all. It had an American flag. It was going to the military. And I heard her say while we were watching the game, oh, man, because we were watching a Saints game.

She was like, I love that, whatever it was. It was like a hoodie or whatever, and it was a different color than the normal Saints thing. So I just reached over there, got my phone. and ordered it. You know, I was like, women small, I guess, bam. She'll never know. It would be the greatest surprise ever. So when I came home the day before Christmas,

Missy said, you're not going to believe what's happened. And I said, what? She said, I ordered Brighton this hoodie because she's a big Saints fan. And two of them came in. And I couldn't get a woman small because they were sold out.

So I had to get a man small and was just hoping it's going to be. So I walked out, I said, well, let me look. I was, I was sure there's, you know, let me see if I can, I was acting. I didn't know what to do, you know. I walked in there and she's got both of them in there. So I'm like, what do I do here? Because she thinks she, she ordered one. Yeah, thought she got one for free.

Because she liked it. Yeah, and she's like, they sent me too. So we have a moral issue here. Yeah. And so I just looked at her and I said, Merry Christmas. She said, what? I said, I bought that. It has my name on it because I sent it to mine.

I said, you opened my mail and it had your Christmas president. She said, this is a miracle. That's a Christmas miracle. That's a Christmas miracle. So I said, well, okay, I'm never trying that again. She's like, oh, no, you know, I mean, it may a miracle. You can't get a package because the wives open all the packages. All right, hang on, Jayson.

I know you got another miracle. Let's take a break. So the other one was Missy got everybody matching pajamas, Christmas pajamas. Oh, boy. Well, guess what? The miracle in my mind was mine never came in. My color. Everybody had a different color.

Yeah. And so when she passed them all out, she skipped me. And she said, babe, I'm sorry, yours did not come in. I guess it was just destiny. And so everybody had their little colors. And I was thinking, boy, this is the greatest thing that ever happened, that I don't have to wear matching pajamas for Christmas. I was really excited.

And then my son, his gift to me, without consulting with his mom, my wife, Missy, got me the exact color. Pajamas, which we got to. to have a talk, me and my son. And when my wife saw that, and she went nuts, she said, it's another Christmas miracle. That was the color that they were, that I ordered you, and then call God. I mean, they're hugging over this, the excitement. It doesn't take a whole lot to get y'all stirred up, doesn't it?

Y'all is, I was not a part of it. I just thought I'd share that, because this is what. what I think normal people do at Christmas, that I look at it from afar and think, boy, this is something. Did you feel like Ralphie on the Christmas story that days when you had to put on that pink rabbit outfit? I actually thought I was this close

from not having to take a picture in this embarrassing moment. And then my son in some weird thing, I told him, I was like, look, next year goes something hunting-related, the Christmas pajamas. So anyway, we've moved. on we said i love christmas though just because i think it's it's a time where when people are actually open-minded to the lord just because of the hoopla about it so i encourage it but now we have a new year so i don't know if we want to talk about new year's resolutions we're probably

a couple weeks past the new year by the time this comes out yeah we're probably about a week out after that but we haven't had a chance to talk about our christmas experiences so we did want to do that even though that's a few weeks back for most of you of you been listening. I guess we'll get to back to our text because in the last podcast, we're in Luke chapter 20 is where we are. And I felt like we really opened up a really interesting discussion that we took into overtime about, we got down to verse. Actually, we started with this, which was where we had left off about this resurrection and marriage text. And remember just to understand the, and remember the context of all this, Jesus has come into Jerusalem. He

He's commented what's going to happen there. He went into the temple, cleared it out, basically saying, this is my house, you know, but things are going to be different because he said in the book of John that this is going to be destroyed. And so then he sits down and starts doing some teaching. And as part of that teaching, he does the, he's starting to get asked these questions. And most of them are traps to try to pin something on him because they don't know what to do with Jesus. So he gets this question about marriage and we talked about that. And then he responds with a really interesting thing because he makes this point about him,

God being a God of the living, not the dead. And he's making the point that in the resurrection, people who don't believe in an afterlife, they're having trouble understanding what that's going to be like. So he brings up Psalm 110 to these people in verse 41 of chapter 20, Luke. He quotes Psalm 110, which we read in the last podcast, of David saying, said to my Lord, sit at my right hand and said, I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. And then he said, David calls him Lord. How then can he be his son? So he presents this sort of time box paradox of how is David talking about a descendant in the same reference as talking

about somebody who's before him and over him? And of course, from Jesus' perspective of coming outside of time and space into our time. He gets it perfectly. I mean, he understands. He was there. And so what we brought up in the last podcast was that when you go and read Psalm 110, we also went over and read John 7 and John 4 in Hebrew 7. It even opens up even more because in Psalm 110, the whole Psalm is a messianic prophecy,

not just about who the Lord is, but also David brings up this idea of Melchazadec, who was another idea of someone outside of a secession or lineage because he was a priest, you know, before there was a priesthood. So there's a lot of really cool stuff in here with the idea that Jesus is so unique as our king and priests, which we talked about, that he's outside of normal succession. He's not just that he came from the house of David. He came from God. And yet he also, because of the way God framed it, he does come from the lineage.

of David, and yet he's outside of David. I mean, it really is a powerful concept when you think about. And I brought up the first Chronicle 17 because it's really about him delivering David from his enemies, and then through that there's this messianic prophecy that out of his line would a kingdom would be established. But when you read the whole chapter, there's a lot about this in saying that he will subdue all his enemies. And so when he says here...

Which also comes up, Jay's, in Psalm 110. In that messianic prophecy, right. I was fixed to make the same point. And so when he says in Luke 20, when he says this, that what you read, until I'm, the Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies

a footstool for your feet. I thought about that phrase, which is something you read and it just kind of glosses over your head. But I went on a little run about that in the Bible because the first thing I thought of was 1st Corinthians 15 when it says in verse 22 for as an Adam all die so in Christ all will be made alive for each in his own turn Christ the first fruits then when he comes those who belong to him then the

end will come when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion authority and power for he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death, for he must put everything under his feet. And also thought about Philippians 3, where he says in verse 18, for as I have often told you before and say again with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their God is their stomach,

their glory is in their shame, their mind is on earthly things, but our citizenship is in heaven. We eagerly away to savor from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly body

so that they will be like his glorious body. And it just made me think, when you think of earthly kingdoms, how do they view enemies? Well, they view enemies anybody that's trying to kill them or overthrow their power or insurrectionists. But when Jesus is talking about here, the enemies that he will destroy, he's talking about, you know, when he's talking about, you know, when he's brought up that the last enemy to be destroyed is death and when you think about enemies of the cross you know and he gives these this illustration of people you know their god is their stomach their glory is in their shame their mind is on earthly thing when you think about the

enemies of the cross the enemies of the resurrection and you just see that his kingdom and what it entails is way bigger than some kind of earthly kingdom where we're going to, you know, use some kind of physical force to take over the world. It's more of a spiritual thing, but it's also a bodily resurrection thing where the true enemies of life and the true enemies of any kind of kingdom, Jesus conquered death itself. It's just a way better kingdom. It has way better answers to humanity. I think about that verse 5 in Psalm 110, which we hadn't read the rest of that, the Lord is at your right hand.

This is, again, a messianic prophecy from David in Psalm 110. He's talking about somebody other than himself. He will crush kings on the day of his wrath. He will judge the nations heaping up the dead and crushing the rulers of the whole earth. So in the language he was using, the picture is exactly what Jason was describing. That's all enemies, all kingdoms. And then it's interesting because in the NIV, it says he will drink from a brook beside the way. I'm not sure why they translated that way.

But if you look down the margin, another translation, which I think is much better for the point here he's making, the one who grants secession will set him in authority, which to me fits the context way better because he's talking about this idea that God has set him in place as a descendant of David. And I thought that was really interesting because that made the point in the last podcast about when you read Matthew 1 and Luke 3, you read about the lineage. And there's two different lineages there that split off at David. And we know now that Luke 3 was the lineage of Mary, which was Jesus' physical link, but it came through not Solomon, not the royal line, but Nathan, his son. And then you read the royal line, which came to Jesus' earthly father, Joseph. but what's interesting is Jesus wasn't Joseph's son.

So even though the royal line went to Joseph, he wasn't really Joseph's son. He was royal before that lineage. He was royal because the one who grants secession appointed him to be king. And so think about how fascinating this is. So the Jewish history look at and they say, well, he's not from Bethlehem. Well, he was because he was born there. They just didn't know it because he grew up in Nazareth. Then they said, well, he's not of the.

lineage of David. Well, he is two ways in terms of the earthly connection. But then none of that matters because the reason he's king is because the Almighty God Yawai said, I will appoint the king and it will come through the idea of David, but it's bigger than David. So, I mean, I've always been fascinated by the idea of Jesus being so much bigger than anything we can contemplate in our earthly minds. And then flowing out of that, you see the same exact secession or type of secession even in our inclusion as Gentiles that there's I mean even the Old Testament's so much written about prophetically that I'm going to call people who are not my people my people yes I'm going to call those who aren't Israel Israel I'm going to graft in people who

you see it but they don't have the DNA they don't have they but and that's really what kind of Paul's point is I think in the book of Romans you know he starts off the book of Romans and he said I mentioned this in the last podcast we kind of overlaught looked this a lot, but he says, Paul, a servant of Christ, Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God. The gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures, and through his son, through the Holy Scriptures regarding his son, who as to human nature, was a descendant of David. So there's this idea that, but, and through the spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the son of God by his resurrection from

of dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, there's that secession you were talking about, through him, and for his namesake, we have received, Paul speaking here, grace and apostleship, and there's the reason to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience of faith. So even our inclusion as Gentiles, it's like, it's never the way that you think it's going to be because you think, oh, you've got to have the lenin, it's got to have the royal royalty, you've got to have all this in place, and we're overlooking that God has said. sovereign, he's bigger than all of that. And whatever he's calling Christ to or whatever he's calling us to is bigger than some kind of like earthly kingdom DNA structure with borders and land and

physical temples. It's way bigger than that. And Jace made the point from Hebrew 7 in the last podcast. That's why the Hebrew writer said he becomes our priest, not because of a lineage through Aaron or even Melchazidate, but because of an indestructible life. In other words, when he raised from the dead, that was the game changer for everything because then we know that we can live in the present outside of time and space because we will be in perfection. And so which is, which is his, I mean, Jesus has response in Luke 20 to their, to what they said, he does not give validity for him being a Davidic king, which he could have. Yep. Instead, he had, he actually addresses the core of their heart issue. And,

It's, and their motivation. So you think, because they had put all their hope in the system. Yep. They had put their hope in the, this is the Pharisees and Sadducees collectively. Like, they had put their hope in the scriptures. They had put their hope in all these things that were of God, but they weren't God. And I think that's the big, that's the big turning point with Jesus. So it's what he's saying is, is you're putting your hope in the things of God.

You're not putting your hope. And that's actually what he says next. Let's take our last break. In verse 45, he says, while all the people are listening, this is after he presents this paradox, Jesus says to his disciples, beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing roads, and they love to be greeted in the marketplaces, and have the most important seats in the synagogues, and the places of honor at the banquets. They devour widows' houses, and for a show make lengthy prayers.

such men will be punished most severely. So he presents this picture of what Zach was describing, this elitism, that somehow they deserve something better because they've done this, that, or the other, whatever they believe. And he's like, they've missed the whole point of what this is about. And unfortunately, you see the exact same thing today. People thinking somehow it's because of what I'm accomplishing, what I'm doing. Well, I think they miss the application of what the kingdom is going to.

to look like because it says several times true religion is that is faultless is you know helping widows and orphans and keeping oneself and being polluted by the world but jesus is holiness and character and interactions with people was always helping the poor dealing with injustice defeating racism you know helping the afflicted touching leopards yeah touching leopards dealing with uh Demon possessed. I mean, he was a nasty business. It wasn't right. He was basically trying to do what all the political worlds and social methods that we do,

attempt to do on the earth. But Jesus was doing it by the power of God. He comes up with this illustration on, well, how would David say, the Lord said to my Lord? And just for a practical verse that explains that, when, you know, and Paul wrote to the Romans to Zach's point about, you know, us as Jim, Gentiles being included in this plan that started in Israel, you know, he brings up Israel in chapter 9 in the beginning verses that says, you know, he said, I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish. This is Romans 9 too in my heart. For I could wish that I myself are cursed and cut off from Christ for

the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, the people of Israel. There's is the adoption of sons. there's the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship, the promises. But here's a very profound verse, and I think it goes into his statement in Luke 20. There's are the patriarchs from them as traced the human ancestry of Christ. And you can go all the way back to David. But then it says this, who is God overall forever praised? So here's the bridge of humanity coming from the Son of God, Jesus, the God and man. And so that's how he could say that is that the word Jesus became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

But he was also able to do all these miracles. He was also able to be flawless. He was also able to take all our sins on his back. He was also defeated death itself. And so what does that look like? Well, these people in the spirit of religion and having a temple without Jesus where they were going to worship and show how awesome they were by lengthy prayers and whatever, that negates Jesus' whole point in what we read in Luke 6,

on what the spirit of people who are following Jesus would look like, the giving up everything you have, selling everything you have. So that's the practical matter how it ends. These people are confident in their own righteousness. They love money. They love power. It was all a show. And that's why Jesus was hanging out in the temples.

Because he was like, you got this wrong. There's a new temple coming. you're looking at him. There is a God. I'm him. I came from the line of David, but also I'm the son of God. I mean, that's why you have all these conversations

on who do you think he is, which applies perfectly to us today. So even when he did that in first, I brought up that 1st Corinthians 15, but even in 1st Corinthians 15, and Paul, I think it's the most used verse in churches today because we get up and remember, remind people of the gospel.

The sermon I heard this past Sunday, it was a reminder of the gospel. But I think it's worthy of note to get back to that John 20 I did in the bonus time of the last podcast that when Jesus was resurrected, he then told his disciples, as the Father sent me, I'm now sending you. And he breathed on them the Holy Spirit, the streams of living water, that they would now be his ambassadors, they would be Jesus on earth. And that's still going on today. Us, spirit-filled people. That's our whole point, saying the kingdom is here, the temple is here, where we rise

together as spirit-filled people. Well, in 1st Corinthians 15, when he reminded the church at Corinth of the gospel, he says four times after he said, you know, I'll remind you in verse 3 and 4, that Christ died, he was buried, he was raised, you know, this is the gospel, it saves you, take your stand on it. But then he says, he appears. And four different times he says he appeared to Peter, he appeared to the 12, he appeared to more than 500, he appeared to James, he then to all the apostles, and last of all, he appeared to me, Paul, who's writing this, there's the one I'm normally born. And you're like, why is he making a big deal? So what that he appeared? So what did he appeared to all these people? Because he was sending them out. And then he says, so what? So verse 10. but by the grace of God, I am what I am, and this grace to me was not without effect.

No, I worked harder than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. Whether then it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what we believe. And my point is what Jesus is doing is showing this future image of him, conquering all our enemies, saving us, going to the right hand of God, giving us the Holy Spirit, and then we do this work based on the grace. The grace affects us. The power of the resurrection affects us, and we become a moving kingdom of God on earth where we're declaring Jesus is Lord and people are entering it.

There's a lot of work going on. So then he goes through the whole chapter of 1st, Corinthians 15, 15, about the resurrection, what I just read, the last enemy will be destroyed. That's death itself. We'll be raised. He goes into the kind of body that we'll receive, which is hard for us to get our heads around, but it was hard for the Sadducees to get their head around

whose husband is this woman going to be, you know, because he starts talking about it's sown a perishable body. It's raised in imperishable body. It's sown in dishonors, raised in glory, it's sown in weakness, raised in power. then he says will all be changed in 51 of 1st Corinthians and the perishable will clothe itself with the imperishable mortal with immortality then death will be swallowed up in victory which is the ultimate enemy and he says the sting of death is sin the power of sin is the law but thanks be to God he gives us a victory through our Lord Jesus Christ and the point I'm trying to make is therefore let me nothing move you, always give yourself fully to the work of the Lord because you know that your labor and the Lord is not in vain. And so that's what the kingdom is doing now. That's what all this

means. That's why we're a part of this. So we don't go off and start doing various temple worships and wait. We are now therefore moving as Jesus via His Holy Spirit and we're working. That was his point to the Corinthians. They had set up. their own camp, we're doing things that were distracting, that was not focused on Jesus. There was no kingdom work being done in the community. And that was, I think, the thrust of what we're all a part of. So your point is, the outer flow of what comes from that inner change is what you see then. That's right.

And then in our overtime segment, and we'll close with this because we're almost out of time, And we talked about the example of that being from John 4 because this Samaritan woman, who he explained what living water really was, he told her, he said, there's coming a time and has now come when you won't worship on this mountain in Samaria or the one down in Jerusalem because God is going to, you worship God in spirit and truth because he's spirit. And then her result and her reaction to that was what? She went down to her the town where she was from. And here she was up here in shame and she brought everybody out to meet Jesus.

And so the very first missionary we even see was really this woman in Samaria, which is powerful. So we're out of time. We'll talk a little bit more about this. I had an idea about this resurrection thing you described. Jays. I want to talk about that in the overtime. So if you want to follow us over, blazedtv.com slash unashamed is where we'll be. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast.

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