Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 814 | Phil Shows Off His Singing Voice & Jase Wins an Unusual but Incredible Prize

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

Phil’s current preoccupation with time leads him to show off his singing voice, and Jase won an unusual prize that he’s since put to excellent use. Phil has a recommendation for those who can’t step away from the card table, and the guys discuss their clear preference for cast iron cookware. The guys explore the idea of temples, tabernacles, and our own way of dwelling with God. Jase also examines the way the Jewish power structure treated widows and orphans. In this episode: Luke 21, verses 1-5; Luke 4, verse 28 Own "The Blind: The True Story of the Robertson Family" on digital, DVD & Blu-ray today: https://theblindmovie.com/watch — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashame. I am back in studio today. After flying across the fruited plains yesterday from North Carolina, it seems like it was just yesterday I was with you. It does seem like that for some reason. Here I am. You did return my cast iron skillet, which I'm thankful for. I told you, I said, when I was walking out that door,

is the one thing you can trust about Al, is if I borrow something, it is coming back. Because the one thing that drives me insane, I'm not very possessive of my stuff. My kids know, my neighbors know, you can borrow anything you want with one condition. Bring it back. Well, that's why you quit duck up.

That's it. Because I've noticed that all my stuff, people keep borrowing it. Yeah. And they don't bring it back. It drives me crazy. I mean, like, I look up, though, this is odd. I look up and it's probably, I felt like it was like 10.30 at night. When did you come?

No, it was before dinner because we were going to cook dinner. It fell out of 10.30 at night because you've had 25 people in your house for six days, Zach. That makes every time feel like 10.30. But Al's got like three cast iron skillets and he's walking out with them. There's no like, hey, how you doing? Just comes in and grabs the skillets and he's walking out. It's true family. And so Zach's like, did you get my?

a smithy and I said I don't know what that is but I got two skillets and I will bring them back when I'm What is the smithy? Apparently the skillet was really Honestly I feel like they should pay for what I'm about to say But I mean If you want

It's ever the ad man If you want the best cast iron skillet that you That you can get your hands on I mean you used it out I used it. I mean it's fantastic It heats up good So we may now You either have cast iron

or you don't. Yeah, but this one. This is, this is, I'm telling you. So I think what I was told, Zach, and you can, you know more about the product because this first time I view, although I now have the website, so I'm fixing to buy me one. But if they're make them, there are, yeah, it takes cast iron a while to get like smooth. At first it's kind of rough and you have to, the more you could. It's like granny.

The texture on its role. Right. But this one comes to you smooth. And, I mean, it really, he did in a quicker and better. better than I mean, I can fry an egg in this thing and I could put an egg in there with just a little bit of, you know, it doesn't stick. I mean, this thing is like glass. I mean, it's a cast iron with the bottom is as smooth and slick as glass when you get out of the box. It's that way. Yeah. I mean, it's impressive. And what I liked about, Zach, was the size. Like, because, you know, you got like a Dutch oven. You got the small cast iron. You got the big cast iron. Jay says one half as big as this table. I actually won that in a card game. Did you really? I did. A local cart game?

A local cart. You know, some of these boys. What are you cooking in it? His sweet fries is shrimp and stuff in, right? Yeah. It means it's big. Dad's got one like that. Well, it was a guy.

Small wash tub. A guy, you know, he lost, I mean, we're not think small stakes here. But he was like, well, I left my wallet in my truck, you know, after everybody's, you know, I'm good for it. Was it Zach? No, he's bad about leaving his wallet. But, uh. intentionally. So I followed him out there because I happened to be the big winner that night.

And he said, now I got a bunch of stuff. He sold stuff. Oh. And like pawn shop kind of deal. Yeah. And I was like, well, let me take a look at what you got here. Now, this is a true red net poker game when at the end of the night, you're out perusing the product in the back of the touch. Yeah.

Now, I did say. Rangy for something. get a buck. Something about it. At that moment, I said, now this is not stolen merchandise or anything. Yeah, you got to make sure it didn't come from the poacher. Oh, no, it's not.

It's all good. And that's the first thing I saw with all this junk in the back of that truck was the biggest black cast iron skillet I've ever seen. And I was like, well, what you want for that? I think he said 60 bucks. I was like, okay, take that off my bill. Yeah, like a drill set. You know, still, I mean, unopened, like, still in the pagas.

Like, how much is that? Jason's like the guy at these arcades when you go up and they take those tickets they won from all the games and they're taking off the little candies and whatnot. How much do I have left? Sounds like an episode of Pickers. You're losing. But I was paying retail. If you're, I've never played a game of cars.

But it seems to me like if you're losing, you would have a car, a vehicle loaded with, stuff that you can trade. Yeah, that's what this was. The first level is where's the green? Well, the green ain't here. Yeah, we don't have any green. Well, let's go out in the back of my truck and we'll go out there and look and see if there's anything worth what I just lost.

Well, it was a pretty good deal because he's actually selling the stuff at retail. He paid way less for that. But I didn't care because I thought, well, let me just go shot. That gentleman needs to get out of that particular trade. You know what's funny? I've never seen him again. You took his cast iron skillet, man. I think he had a moment.

He had a moment when you lose in your pots and pans. You need to give up the game, dude. When you can't cook any more. He literally didn't have a pot to pee in. You took it from it, Jace. He reminded me, which is funny. Remember the elixir salesman and the outlawed Jersey Wales? He was like, he pulled up some bottle, you know.

Mr. Carpetbagger. He had a bunch of those. I was like, no, I said, well, how's that on stains? What that Indian did tell him? Looked at me. You know what? How do you drink it? You drink it.

Yeah, because Mary said that. At Indian said, you drink it, he meant, and I'll watch it. See if it works. He's, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's my take on potlucks, which I've tried to distance myself the older I get. So I'll just get what my wife brings. then I watch everybody else's response. We were trained that way.

There's always a couple things that people light up about, and then I go over and get that. But when they make that old face, I'm like, ooh, don't get that. Don't do that. So I borrowed the two skillets from Zach because we were eating over at Melissa's for New Year's Day. And I think I mentioned it when I was up there. We did the traditional,

It was just black-eyed peas and cabbage and pork roast. It was delicious. But Lisa used the Smithy, which I didn't realize what a good product it was, until we used it to cook a big, huge thing of Mexican cornbread, which is one of her specialties. So we had that with it. Well, your wife came up today in a duck line, and we all realized duck hunting today because we don't have a lot of ducks,

but we realize. So you're going to have a lot more conversation when you don't have his meat. Yeah, we're not what we once were. That was the theme of the hunt today. We should have killed six mildards and we killed three. So, and a couple wood ducks. But we got enough for, you know, mass to eat. Yeah, a little gumbo.

But old Jersey Joe, who said, I guess I brought him up in a previous podcast because he said, well, I heard you were throwing haymakers at me on the podcast, which I don't even remember that. But I said, well, it's not personal. Because I told him, I was like, look, if you want a duck hunt, you've got a, there's, Three things you need to do, you need to have real thick skin. Yep. You need to do more listening than talking. And number three is whatever job you figure out how you can contribute here, do your job.

So I thought that was pretty good advice. Pretty good. But anyway, he, you know, he brought up the fact that he evidently, I threw some haymakers at him in over. It was about him moving in the blind or something. I remember vaguely. Yeah. And it wasn't. personal.

You all know me. He was just the new guy and he was moving around. I mean, like today, my own dad, look, the first two ducks came in and they got right over the decoys, they lifted up. Well, I looked down the blind. Well, everybody had face pain on but feel, which I'm sure he just forgot to put it on. But I didn't say anything because, you know, he is my dad. Right.

I just took some face paint and threw it down there. And he put it on. It was a very nice passive-regressive. Well, did you get your feelings hurt because we passed the face paid out? No, it's not personal. But today, evidently, I don't know anything about this, but he said, yeah, I'm learning. I can't do his accent, you know, the Jersey. Yeah, he's got a pretty good accent.

Yeah, which he keeps saying, we talk funny, and I thought, well, I thought you talked funny. He calls water, wooder. Yeah. Wooder. Well, maybe that's why I'm not understanding half of what you're saying. So he brought up this chili. He made some chili. And Jay said, terrible.

And he hasn't gotten over it. He said it hurt because he made the statement. He said, it hurt my feelings. And I said, well, why did it hurt your feelings? He's like, because they have been talking about that chili for two years. And I said, well, Jay, what was wrong with the chili? I didn't even eat the chili. But Jay said it was like meat soup.

It was watery. It was real watery. And he said it had. no spice. And I said, well, see, that's what the problem is here. You've got to quit saying, oh, why y'all keep getting on to me about the chili and go make some, cook it longer and put more kine. That's the difference.

He won't make it like we have so scarred him from it. He won't even try it again. But here's what happened. Now, y'all, y'all appreciate this because y'all know how robertsons are. So we invite Joe and Christine over to eat. And they were like, great, can we bring something? I said, well, no, not really, because Lisa's making chili. Well, then the next thing Joe says is, oh, well, I'll make, I'll bring some of my chili, too.

See, what do you've got to realize? That was the first serious mistake because now you're going to. You've entered the danger. This is you getting up and shooting ducks without anybody else shooting. And we've seen that happen this year. It didn't go well for him because we're all watching us. So you don't want to, in the cooking, it's the same equation. Well, we know, like, you would weigh.

and see what you were up against. But now by offering to, and I never said don't bring it. Well, because that's a form of competition. It is because now you're going to set it right next to Lisa's who makes a really good. I would have thought he was so confident that he's saying. I thought. Hey, hold your spoon and watch this. Look, he is an excellent cook.

So he comes in. He's got a crock pot, which I thought right off the bat. I thought, bad sign for chili. Now, at least Lisa makes it in a cast iron skillet. It's really good. He sets it down, and it was deer meat. It wasn't beef, which we love deer meat, but, you know, we've got to do a lot sometimes deer meat.

Sometimes it's good. Because now we're getting into how old was this deer. Exactly. Who cleaned the deer? And then when he lit to the lid off, I looked in it, and I saw it was watering. I thought, oh, boy, you stepped in it now. So, look, we eat. I said, I wouldn't even try it.

I tried it. I mean, look, Missy makes one of the greatest chilies of all time, but during the holidays, We had our whole family there, so she quadrupled the recipe. Yeah. Well, five o'clock came, six o'clock came, seven o'clock came, and she said, Jase, come check this chili for me, which I thought was weird because she's never asked me to do that ever in the history of her making chick. It's awesome, her chili. So I thought, that's odd.

So I'll go in there and she's got my big skillet out because she quadruple the recipe. I'll open the lid. I said, nope, it's not ready. when you quadrupled the recipe, it's going to take four times as long, I guess. She said, well, we can't wait any longer. I said, well, you ask my opinion. I'm saying it's not ready.

And she said, well, I mean, why don't we just try it? I said, no, here's what we do. Y'all try it because you've taken out three-fourths of it will then speed up the cooking process and then I'll eat it when it's ready. And that's what happened. So mine was great. Theirs was just doable.

Doable. Because you got a slow cook it over time. That's what makes it great. But anyway, so the story ends. We didn't say much about it. I don't recall him asking about it. We just, I did try it. It wasn't much.

But look, it wouldn't have been as bad. If I'd have been at his house eating it, it wouldn't have been as bad as if it wasn't right next to really, really good to it. So he leaves there. He's brought his chili. Nobody said anything at the moment. When he gets home with Jacob, calls him because Jay came in late.

He tries some of chili. He's like, this is the worst thing I ever tried to eat. So then he calls Joe and tells him. He said, this chili he brought was terrible. The worst I've ever is horrible. Never bring this to the house again. So Joe is like, well, I and Lisa didn't say anything. He said, they were being nice.

Yeah, that's where I was getting to because he said, well, Jay said it was terrible, but Lisa came in and said, oh, it's fine. Disregard. him. And I said, you don't know what that means? He said, what does it mean? I said, that means it's terrible. We love you anyway. That's right. Yeah. When you say it's fine. Lisa's never going to

say a negative word about anybody. That's right. He said, are you kidding me? I said, no, that was code for that was terrible. You're right. That's exactly what happened. So we got that solved today. Well, Phil started all that because I remember early on in my life, he said that if you ever, if somebody cooks bad food and you tell them it's good, particularly your wife, they'll keep doing it. And so there was always this. He also said, if you don't work and you say, well, live off love, you'll starve to death. Yeah. He did say that too. That was another good thing.

Let's take a break. Skinny. So I've got a reveal here. Oh, I was ready to get into Luke 20. Oh, we're fixing to, but I wanted, so something came. You made me nervous when you start bringing out a, bringing out a lot of us. You feel like it's going to be a gimmick or something? It's, it's.

I'm not much of a surprise guy. So this came to our crack staff of won Maddie. She brought it with her today. Oh, okay. So this is the coveted. Oh, we actually got the award. Well, now, now I have breaking news. I think now you can say award winning.

Because we actually have the award. See, I felt uncomfortable about this for the last year. Now, it took a year. It's almost time to vote again. One begins to wonder if it takes a year to get the... I think it's been more like three or four months. It's a few months. It was a few months to figure out, did they really win it?

Well, here's one thing I observed, because y'all probably didn't notice it, because they handed the award to me when we were on the stage. What we got on stage was just a prop. Because one thing is, it was four times heavier than this thing, and it wasn't here as nice. This thing's heavy. And the other one was four times heavier, Joe. But this looks much nicer. So I think they, like, came up with a much nicer trophy than the one they just hand you. That's nice.

Well, I mean, our listeners deserve this. Which is why I wanted to present it. because they sent it to us, but Unashamed Nation, this is your award. Because one is if you hadn't voted for the podcast, it never would have won. If you didn't listen to the podcast, it wouldn't have won. And we went up against some really other good podcasts as well. We did. It's your award.

It's a gold K if you're listening on the audio feed. It's a gold K. It's a gold K. What does it say on there? I can't read it. It says a K-Love Fan Awards, 2023 podcast, Impact Award, Unashamed with Phil and Jace Robertson. Caleb and Al.

They need to put Al's name on there. Well, and almost they should put and Al and almost that. You got that 50% of the time. Well, and by the way, because I have been asked this many times. I've said it before. I want to say it again since we just brought it up. The reason the podcast is named Phil and Jace is because Zach and I at the beginning were producers of the podcast.

We still are. But in the early days, we had a production company that we don't have anymore, but we produced it. So it wasn't our podcast. We appeared on this podcast, although I've been on all of them.

You all just thought the only way this is going to work is for it to produce is if we actually contribute. That's right. Exactly. I mean, I knew early on, they said,

we're going to have, the very first ones we did is just going to be Phil, just solo, just mono and mono. And I said, And I, you know, that's going to be good for a few episodes, but that's just going to be preaching. Well, look at it from my perspective. I'm a guess that never left.

Yeah, you're the one, because you weren't even a part of the original discussion. This is like 10 o'clock at night, you know, somebody's at my house, their guests. I'm like, well, I'm going to bed. Y'all can hang out. And they just stay. And they just stay. That was me. I'm that guy.

So that's why it says with Phil and J's, by the way, for those of you feeling, you know, like wondering if we're wounded, we're not. we've been producing the podcast. Because you have thick skin, which is the theme of the same of the same. That's the point we've been trying to make. You've got to have thick skin. Whether you're from New Jersey or Louisiana or as ZZ Top said, all points in between. That's right. What are you going to say is that?

I was going to say, we're going to probably do a little rebranding this coming up year shortly. See, now that kind of stuff makes me nervous. I don't know what that mean. When I think rebranding, I think. we just drop that in. I'm looking at a guy from Texas with a hot iron trying to put something on somebody that or some helpless cow that doesn't really want that. We're going to have a little upgrade, a little, a little, a little, uh, makeover a little bit.

You know, it'll be good. We're just going to put the sign of tin bear on there, Jason. We'll be part of the family. All right. So we're ready to get to loop. Well, we're going to find a prominent place for a future podcast on our big shelf back here to put our award since we are now a award-winning podcast jesus right it's official because we have the trophy to prove it so but it's not it's not us it's you yeah i mean it's your trophy it's a fan

well i've noticed uh the human race observation is that they get bored rather rapidly most people you know you know where you get that from because you spent a lot of time in a duck blind You look around, I can tell these boys, they get bored if they're not shooting their weapon every five to ten minutes. Jay keeps just leaving. Yeah. He's there. You look up. He can't, you know, that's why you eat in the blind and just boredom is.

That's why I used to chew tobacco in my youth is because I was bored, deer hunting and duck hunting. I mean, because there's so much time in between something. happening. Now, it's a lot better now than it used to be because we have more deer and more ducks typically. But in the old days, I mean, when I first started deer hunting, dad would take me out. You know, we're trying to kill deer to eat. But he set me on side of a tree on an uncomfortable, you know, two, two by fours, just wide as my rear end. And it was like, all right, look down this little lane and, you know, all morning. Well, I mean, I didn't see a deer. This was back in the 70. I didn't see a deer for five seasons.

Yeah, you know what's crazy is when I was 10 years old, so I've been duck hunting two years, but of course not on my own. Yeah. Because, and I only went a few times. So Phil came to the Lord when I was eight, I think, you know, a little earlier, but he was hunting season happened when I was eight.

And so he took us hunting for the first couple of times. It's kind of featured in the movie. That was like his life change was starting to take us. So a couple years later, he gets his, this break up in Tensoe Parish. And, of course, he said, why don't you just stay out there with me, you know, for about a week,

which I thought, man, boy, he's really wanting me to go hunting with him. No, he wanted me to clean up the camp and try to kill all these mice. Because remember, it was a mouse infestation. Thousands. Yeah, we, the actual truth is we left there because of the mice. I mean, just is incredible.

With the trailer, the hunting trailer, was the only structure within miles. So every mouse in Ten Saw Parrish was coming to that trailer. So Phil was got... The walls was a solid mice. And the reason I say that is because when I got out there, Phil was guide, he had a guide trip. You know, I was 10 years old.

I didn't know anything about this. So I was getting all the stuff ready. I was just an extra hand. Yeah, you were in. And they would go hunt. Yep. And I'm sitting back out to trailer. I was like, just terrified because I'm surrounded by mice.

So I started begging. I was like, well, just take me and drop me off at another blind. You know, but I'm 10 years old because I didn't realize what that meant. But Phil did one day. And they dropped me off. You remember this? Y'all dropped me out. And this stand was 30, 30, 40 feet high.

And it was below freezing. I mean, and you know, this is like throwing a kid in a swimming pool. Say, good luck. I mean, they dropped me off at the ladder. I got my stuff. climb up there it's as cold as i'm old are you 10 years old and so phil goes down to the next blind and they're hunting with all the the hunting party and uh i got so cold and i had to take a leak and i unzip my coveralls and did my business i was so cold i couldn't zip up my cover up my hands

wouldn't work so then i have two mallards come in i mean i have a gun yeah and light in the decoys and i was so cold, I could not lift the gun and pull the trigger. So when they came to get me, the two mallards came out of the decoys and feels like, well, you, no, they didn't you? They was like, what are you doing? Why did you shoot two ducks? I said, I was too cold. I was too cold.

So I thought, next time if I asked to go duck hunting by myself, I'm going to say, leave me a heater. Well, that's, that's good, though, Jay's, because remember who's a man was the theme of early life. And even though dad became a Christian, who's a man hung around for a few years? Exactly. I looked back on that and thought, boy, that was, that was, you know, a bold mood, really, because when I leave my 10-year-old, probably not. But I figured it out, it toughed me up. Hey, it made you the hunter you are today. So, which is good. All right, let's take another group. All right, so welcome back. We're in Luke 19 or actually, we're in 21 today. Oh.

Sorry, I had the wrong page. It's Luke 21. Luke 21. Which does it seem like an interesting thing? Big picture. Big picture. It is interesting that there's a movement, and there's always been the movement. It comes forth when you read these old text.

So when you pick these texts up, there's a mighty throng of individuals who downgrade Jesus Christ by not recognizing that he established as we know it time. He established time. Correct. The one they're saying who is that

saying, Jesus is anointed by a sinful woman, all these headaches. Jesus he raises a widow's son the wise and the foolish builders. Where's that at?

A tree and its fruit. Luke 6, Luke 7. I just want you to give it. Faith of the Centurion, different men, different guys, different people, different problems, different angles. And they themselves acknowledge

that to date in China, Russia, or anywhere else on the globe. the human race love him or hate them but they say there's no such thing as jesus it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's not real the bible's not real but the time he established is the marker of all time it's been to we say what year is it right now 2024 24 24 you say since what by what? Who came up with the time there he is? And the whole world jumps on board. Yep.

Yet they say the one they jumped on board about doesn't exist. So 2024, if they say, yep, I said, what year is it? They say, 2024. I said, according to who? Well, that's Jesus time. Yeah. That's counting time by Jesus. I am coming.

And when you read these verses, you say, yeah, he doesn't exist. Well, you can read all about him. You count time by him. If you count time by someone, I would at least investigate the one you're counting time by. Or you won't know what the correct time is. It's 2,024 years since Jesus was on the earth. They go back to his birth to document. the time. If you don't acknowledge that time, you're never going to be able to be able to keep an

appointment. Yeah. If you say, I'm just doing away with the, what do they call the calendar? And why didn't Russia say, well, the Chinese, they say, well, you know, America counts time by this. Supposedly they have a different count. Some person back in the back. We don't believe in him, but we're going to count time by it like everybody else. I don't get it out. He's either marketable by his time. He's the one who started time. But you're right. Even the Chinese who have their own calendar and celebrate a different New Year,

they still have to function with the rest of the world by the 2024. And they don't believe in it. Right. So what they tried to do now, they tried to change it and say, well, it has nothing to do with Christ. It was just the common error and before the common error, which you've said before. It just so happened that before the common error was all the years before Jesus got here. But here's another irony, Dad.

John said John won in the beginning, which is the time marker, was the Word. Yep. And the Word was God and the Word was God. So not only do we count time by his coming to the earth, we count time by his creation of the beginning of time and when he created our planet. Which the song says, does anybody really know what time it is? Yep, there you go, Chicago. That was pretty good. That was pretty good, that.

For late 70, it was better than 98% of country music singers. Which we were talking about this before. You actually played us a little ditty when you got here. I thought the name of the song was, I'm on the backside of 40, but it was actually 30. Well, we were talking about Zach's health issues. Yeah, Zach, when he can eat and can, and you attribute it to him being 40,

but when you thought the song said 40, we listen to it actually says 30 because that's a relationship. As soon as we came on before we started being on air, Zach went through about five ailments and he was sluggish and he's, you know, it sounded like the side effects for one of these pharmaceutical drugs. I mean, is it not? Is it actually 20, 24? The only proof you have to document that is you say,

Or three or four years. That's when Jesus showed up. You say, give or take a few years. Yeah, it's 2,024 years since he was here. You at least need to check him out. I mean, because no one's going to count time by you, ever. Not me, not the Chinese. No.

That's right. Not big enough for something. It's a good point. Just a thought. You brought it to John 1 because I've been thinking about that. Isn't it ironic, John, is almost like giving this idea of a new beginning. It's like he goes back to Genesis. Yeah.

And he's like, in the beginning was the word. The word was with God. The word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him, all things were made. Without him, nothing was made that has been made. That's the right attitude. When he comes to 14, though, to deal with what we're studying.

in Luke, it says the word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. In the Greek word, there's tabernacle, which gets back to this temple idea of God meeting humans, you know, heaven and earth interacting, which is what was happening in the book of Genesis. And now here comes John just making such a profound statement, which is why we're counting time by him. This is a new beginning. And I'm telling you, when he came back from the dead, that's the reason time started to be, it became before and after this Jesus.

I mean. But have you noted that in the process of reading about Jesus and his arriving on the scene and being the time marker, it always has, but some doubted, even when he would do be raised from the dead. Yeah. They were all fired up, but some doubted. The doubters, Al, has really caught on here lately.

No, there's a lot of them. And the thing about this, though, Jay's. You brought up this thing about Tavernacle, which is the idea of this sort of movable, temporary tent, yet they set up for the worship in the desert, which until they got into what is now known as Israel, and then a temple is built. But look at how God has shown us this historical irony.

Everything is another shadow because Jesus comes here, and while he was here about 33 years, as the tabernacle, as the son of God living among us, then he dies and he raises from the dead, and he becomes our what, our temple? I mean, then he's the, permanent structure. So we don't need an earthly temple anymore.

That's why I brought up that first Chronicle 17 last podcast because David is like, why didn't they build it again? David's like, I'm living in a palace and God's in a tent. What's wrong with this picture? And he's like, well, hang on. Through your seed, there's one that's coming. That's right. But what I noticed, what I think we need to do before we read our texts in chapter 21,

because I was reading ahead. And right after this, you know, feel right after this jesus looking at this widow lady give all she has and then making this comparison to the people that were rich who were given which is what we're going to read then you have this this same kind of dissertation about the destruction of the temple yep in jerusalem now it has symbolic language and there's multiple beliefs on what all this means Even the caption in my Bible that was not part of the original manuscript, but it says signs of the end of the age, you know, 21-5, right above that.

It says. By the way, they still go there with a piece of the temple that's left. Well, it's not even the piece of the temple. It's just a wall. One of the retaining walls. That's what I meant. Look, to put their notes in, their worship. Yeah.

Yeah. So I wanted to read the last two verses of chapter 21 because when you read them, it kind of puts it in perspective. It was each day Jesus was teaching at the temple, and each evening he went out to spend the night on the hill called the Mount of Olives, and all the people came early in the morning to hear him at the temple. So if you back up, all of what we've been reading since his triumphal entry into Jerusalem, which is chapter 19 in verse 28.

Well, everything that happened, he was at the temple or in the temple court. He was doing this every day. So you look at 1945. Then he entered the temple. Remember, he said, my house will be a house of prayer, but you've made it a den of robbers. Then you have his authority challenged. You know, who do you think you are coming into the temple? And you remember that about John's baptism?

And he didn't tell him where he was getting his authority. He then tells this parable about what we're supposed to be doing during this transition period. And then he then paying taxes to Caesar. Because you got to remember that temple, not only was it the religious center. It was like the nation's center for everything involved. even when it was destroyed in AD 70, it was not the Roman intent to destroy the temple. They were told not to.

Yeah, they didn't want to destroy it. They were going to just take it over. That gold. That burning started melting. Because to your point, there was a lot of money flowing through, which is why Jesus went in and dumped it upside down. Temple tax was high. Yep.

You know, in Rome wanted their piece of that too. So then this comes up with the Sadducees. about the afterlife. And this is where it kind of starts the thread. But just keep in mind that this is all happening in and around the temple. So when you get to chapter 21 and verse 5, and just to show you the point before we read our text in 21, 1 through 4, some of his disciples in verse 5 were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. So that's what he's talking about here.

It's not like we jumped up with some new idea and said, hey. Which is how a lot of people approach this text. Yeah. If you just jerk it out of the context where he in and start applying it to all sorts of different belief systems, that's when you get into some pretty wild stuff. You basically have three chapters here, which should be called the temple section. That's what I call. Do you? Do you?

Do you? All right. Well, yeah, that's good. Because if you go paragraph to paragraph, you tend to lose the big picture of it all. He's presenting this fact that he's going to be the temple. He is the temple, but he's going to prove that. Because what is a temple? It's where God dwells.

So later on, when this happens, and especially John's gospel, gives a more detailed approach to how this is happening, because he promises to give the Holy Spirit. We did that last podcast, John 7, and then John 16, talking about how the Spirit would work. And then you get to John 20, and he's like, as the Father sent me, I'm going to send you. Well, we know that we will then house or temple the Holy Spirit. You know, you get 1st Corinthians 6. Do you not know that your body's a temple of God?

And you have the First Peter 2. We rise together, living stones, being big. on Jesus as a cornerstone, we become the temple of God on our. So you see this all the way going back to John 1. And here, what I think has happened is when the Sadducees brought up this woman as an example of just show how silly the afterlife was, they come up based on the law. What was that? What kind of law was it?

Leverite, marriage. Lev Wright marriage. Because it's all about a widow. She's widowed seven times or six times, seven husbands. So who's going to be her husband? Well, then all of a sudden, it's like this idea of a widow, because from Jesus' perspective, he really cared about widows. He cared about the poor.

He cared about people that were afflicted with diseases. He cared about the demon possessed. He cared about the rank centers, the tax collectors, the outsiders, those with leprosy. So then it's like you have this point that we made about David, where he said, the Lord said to my Lord, said it at my right hand. Psalm 1.10. And then he brings up the Pharisees, and watch what he says right before this. He says, they pursue the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honored.

Sanquets. This is 46 of 20. They devour widows houses. So he brings up widows again. So the Sadducees made up this illustration about this woman. But I think you kind of see through this that Jesus realized they're just making an illustration. They don't care about that woman. They're trying to trick him into making the afterlife and him believing in that. stupid, looks stupid. And that's what John 2 says when it says, Jesus said, destroy this temple and it'll come, I'll bring it back three days. So I think that's the lead-in to chapter 21. To your point, Jason, the widow is the lowest person in the socioeconomic situation here as an adult. I mean, children would be considered less than a woman. Yeah, I looked it up. 90% of

widows in America, has someone taken care of them? Or they live with a family member, a son, a daughter, a kid. It's just a fact. Even to this day, with so many more opportunities, she was a woman, and then this culture puts her down because her only way to have any success in this culture was to be married to a man or have a son that was going to be able to provide for their family. So you're right. They looked at her as the lowest, which is really interesting. But still, they would take advantage of them because he mentions that in this text. They devour their home.

I don't know what that means. I don't either accept that. I know that for money's sake, they didn't care about the widow. They cared more about the money. I think it means they would go knock on their door and say, give me your money and we'll take care of you. And they probably weren't taking care of them. They were taking the money. Yeah.

in their homes making it, making it harder for them to operate. So then he gets to chapter 21, because the reason we're being painful about going through all this, because there's a greater point he's making here. And I think it really comes out in a powerful way. In 21-1, he says, as he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small, copper coins. And don't miss the point. He's at the temple again and seeing this going on. He's observing this. And so my whole point for going through all that is if we are to be the temple of

God, you've got to realize that whatever the Pharisees are doing and whatever the Sadducees are doing, when it comes to people and money, we need to be doing the exact opposite. In our prayer life, in our helping others, in our task of helping the poor and widows, and why we're given and how we're praying, all this should look different because he is ripping this. The kingdom does not look like what these people are representing. So then he says, I tell you the truth. He said, this poor widow has put in more than all the others.

Now, mathematically, that doesn't make sense, which gets down to the heart of people, and it doesn't matter the amount. It's wherever your heart is. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth, but she, out of her poverty, put in all she had to live on. So you got to remember, back in Luke 4, he brought this up again. This is in 24, and this is, I mean, right at the start of his,

ministry. But he says, you know, when he was in his hometown, he said, no profit is accepted in his hometown. I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah's time when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land. Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow of Zarifath in the region of Sadan. And there was a There were many in Israel or leprosy in the time of Elisha, the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed, only naming. So when you go back in, I think we read that one we were in Luke four. Sure. But it's the story in, I think it's First Kings 17.

You probably remember the story better than I do. Is that the one of the widow and the... Did we not go over that one? We were in Luke four. We did. And she had a... She didn't have it. She basically was doing our last meal.

because she had a son. Yeah, Elijah got fed by the ravens. The Lord was taken care of it. And then he sent him to this widow. This is First King 177. And you got to remember, this woman was not a believer. She was a sinful woman. She was not a Jew.

And he, and the reason I'm bringing this up is because in Luke 4, when he told that story, they got angry. And you say why? Because she was an outsider. In fact, in Luke 4, I should have read that. It said in verse 4.28, all the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built in order to throw him down the cliff. They were going to kill him.

So you said, why were they so outraged, which is the same thing's going to happen when you say that this wit is given more? than all these people. Well, you know that it made them. If anybody who heard that, the wealthy, they're getting hot about this. Who you think you are? And the reason is when you read the story in First King 177, she didn't have any of the credentials that they accepted. One, she was an outsider. Two, she's a very sinful woman.

She, it, you get the idea she didn't even believe in God. And then you have this story that people, People read and they're just confused about what's going on here because there's a miracle that happens. She doesn't have enough food to even feed herself. But Elijah's like, yeah, but the Lord told me that if you give me some, you won't run out. Which happened. Well, then her son gets sick and is about to die. And then you see Elijah.

She does die. And then Elijah lays on him and brings him back to life. Yeah. Well, it says he stretches out over him. And I was like, I think it, you know, the only other time. you read about being stretched out that way is when Jesus was stretched out on a cross and I think this was a preview of what he was going to do in the gospel because he raises the son from the dead well then the widow who's an outsider who's not a believer who's a very sinful woman she then believes that's right she's like oh well

why'd she believe because she saw Elijah I believe willing to give his life that's right and he saw and she saw a resurrection happened. And to your point, Jayes, the Luke 4 context, the point Jesus is making there is, because he makes the same point about Naiman, who remember was an Assyrian who came to Israel for healing and received it, but only after he gave up his pride and his willingness to say, I'm all in. Well, it's the same with this woman. She's preparing her last meal for her and her son, then they're going to die.

This is all she's got. and this guy comes in, Elijah, and says, I want the last thing you got, but if you give it to me, I'm going to give you more than you can ever imagine. And so, and both of them were foreigners. So Jesus is making the point in his hometown that foreigners are going to get this faster than you will, that you have to give to me the last of everything you are. And that's the whole point even when we get to later in Luke 21. That's the concept. That's the idea. That's the, yeah, that's the, I think that's the big picture of. of Jesus' whole ministry is that this thing's opening up to everyone, the foreigners,

all the nations, everyone's coming up that hill to worship, that Isaiah 2 prophecy. It's not what you think. It's always the week that Jesus goes after in this particular case, the picture he builds this widow. But when he gets, it is connected to the temple because at the end of Isaiah, and Isaiah 66, this is what God says about the temple. He says, thus says the Lord, heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool. In other words, he's just acknowledging his sovereignty and his power.

And then he asked that question, the same question that Solomon asked that I mentioned in the last podcast, what is the house that you would build for me? You can just hear him say, what exactly are you going to build for me? And what is the place of my rest? All of these things my hand has made. And so all of these things came to be, declares the Lord. but this is the one to whom I will look, he who is humble and contrite and spirit and trembles at my word.

And I love that because that's the picture of the gospel. And what I think these Pharisees and Sadducees got wrong is they thought that they had the power based on their intellect, based on their obedience to the law, based on their positions of power, based on their money, whatever the thing was. Based on their heritage. Yeah, their heritage. And everything that Christ came to do is to say, like, let's think about this logically. You're going to build me a temple for me to dwell in.

That's just, think about what you're saying there. You're going to take the stuff that I made, and then you're going to build a place for me to live in. And that's where, and I got to have you to do that. It's the same thing Paul said. The Lord your God doesn't dwell in temples built by man's hands as if he needed anything. Well, before we go to overtime, I just wanted to say, the reason I read the Luke 4 is when he said that about the widow, he had just said in Luke 4, 18 through 21, the spirit of the Lord is on me because he has anointed me to preach the good news to the poor, to proclaim freedom for the prisoners, recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor. And then he said, today, the scripture is fulfilled in your hearing, because it was a quote from Isaiah. Yeah. He was saying this is what the kingdom is going to look like.

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