Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 82 | The Drive-By Shooting on Willie Robertson's Property

Episode Date: April 29, 2020

Phil, Jase, and Al share their perspective on the drive-by shooting that sprayed Willie's property with gunfire while family members were home. Jase talks about the bullet that went through the window of the house where Willie's son John Luke lives with wife Mary Kate and their baby. The guys discuss the shooter's motive, Uncle Si's classic reaction, and why this changed Missy's opinion about guns. Al gets inspiration for a future sermon on "The Devil Drive-By," Phil vows he'll NEVER give up his guns, and Jase wants to talk to the assailant. Phil closes the podcast with a prayer for the shooter. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am unashamed. What about you? So I'm 45 minutes from the warning. I got the 22 in my hand. I take two steps to go back up to the house. I heard boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, five shots. It's not funny.

No, I know it. You got to laugh. I'm sitting there with my 22 in my hand and I hear it. And I'm, you got to remember down in here, before the warning, I hear in a week's time, hundreds of shots. Well, yeah. Gunfire, we live in the woods. So during hunt season, people are shooting deer, people are shooting squirrel. But it's technically not hunting season.

And we're included. I said, we're over in duck blinds, six men to the blind. I said, there's a lot of gunfire coming out of North Louisiana. And every sign between here and town has bullet holes. I said, I might bring it up or not. But I'm not going to bring yourself. But I'm just telling you. Well, I got the 22 in my hand.

I said, not enough weapon. I said, let me go. I said, that sounded like at the gate up here. I said, that's where it sounds like they are. So I said, well, let me just get up here and get that AR. And I'll go up there. but then I stopped. I said, wait a minute.

I'm behind the locked gate. If they crash the gate, they'll be here in just a little bit. I said, I go up there and there's a bunch of drunk teenagers shooting the signs, shooting my gate. I get the AR and kill them all. I said, I probably would end up on the wrong side of this thing. They're not at my house. They're on the side of the road, and a bunch of drunk teenagers drank too much. much beer and somebody's children.

And I'm sitting there and I kill all of them. I'm like, that just won't play well. I said, I'm going to make a little cold. You did the right thing. I said, I'm going to make a little code here. I said, if bullets are coming through my house, you know, I'm going to

have to start shooting back where they're coming from because, you know, Ms. Kay trying to get her down. I said, I'll return the fires about all I can do. I said, but I think I'm going to wait until they either are coming in this house, breaking windows, kicking doors in, or shooting from my yard, because it ain't like this is hard to have a drive-by.

Because the road stops. It stops it where you have. There's no drive-by. You drive by your house, you go into the walk-go. Which people are guns, by the way. Not the shooting, but they just drove by your house and went into the river. You have a luminous amount of gunfire down here. I hear it all the time.

Some people are taking target practice. Some people are shooting the cotton miles. some people are on the river. It's a part of life here. Plus, I always thought it was a good thing. So it's not like, I hear boom, boom, boom. It's not like, well, gunfire, get out. It's not lacking a major metropolitan area where.

Well, let me tell you what happened. So which you brought up. So you brought up the threat though. And strangely and oddly enough, I don't think those things are related. I mean, we do get threats from time to time, but I don't think. I checked it the next morning and I saw friends. bullet holes in the signs on the gate. Yeah.

Was it shotgun or? It was a small caliber. It looked like. Well, your instinct was right. It was probably a bunch of drunk teenagers. I looked for halls and didn't find it. So here's what happened. So a lot of you probably have heard this by now.

So we have to address it. Which thankfully, our family, there's so much false information on the internet about our family through the years that most people don't even believe something that is true that's coming from a different source. So I put a statement out, which I'm not sure when this will run. And basically I said, look, our family is fine. The report about the shooting was true.

There was a drive-by shooting. And Willie's house and his son's house, John Luke, they were hit with bullets while they were inside. Willie was not there, but his family was and John Luke's family with their small baby was there. And so, but the good news is they, with, I have to really give our, our police and law enforcement, you know, two thumbs up. Because within 48 hours, they have a suspect, you know, that they've arrested. So pretty good within two days, you know. Yeah. And they were, they're checking camera.

I mean, just having everything you see on TV, you know. Well, they, you know, had the, the vehicle that had pulled up on, I would say, a top five thoroughfare in Westbrook. Yeah. And, I mean, it pulled up, but just they got it on camera. So, I mean, you can imagine the noose began to tighten because if you had that vehicle, well, you're getting pulled over. I mean, how many of our friends do we know that drive similar vehicles?

I'm getting pulled over, you know, in town. I mean, I mean, our Sheriff's Department got after it, which was. Well, what was weird is because I was in a parking lot and the guy pulls up. in one of those vehicles because now I'm looking. Well, so I just get in the ready because I have a, you know, a pistol now with an arm. So I rolled out. I look. Well, it's a guy I play golf with.

I was like, hey, man. I said, I saw that vehicle. And he said, oh, the cops were at my house this morning. He said, I got the full treatment. I was like, well, sorry about that. But I'd like to just tell my perspective. You know, I'm at, this is in the middle of the day when this happened. And it's Friday, beautiful day, sun shining.

I'm taking a nap at 2.30 in the afternoon on my couch. We're quarantine living. I usually take a nap around that area. So this is right for you do your final stock looks and all that. That's right. I don't know why y'all keep bringing that. This is his post-lunch nap before the final bell to get his stock post. No, it's like that song said when that guy said, well, I was tired.

So you're leaning up against the post. He said, but I was tired. What song is there? He's no worse than I can't think of thinking about it. Somebody will, I'm sure, let us. Somebody will know. An ashamed nation will know. So I hear something because very few things wake me up.

Gunshots usually wait me up, but I was kind of like you, even though I'm in town. I'm in a gated neighborhood. Most of the people in my neighborhood, they're my family. So I'm like, okay, you know, my dog bark. So I'm like, what was that? I don't know. And we're not in the city limits where we live. Well, we're pretty close.

We're close. But in other words, we do hear some shooting from time time. Yeah. You know, the refuge is right behind us, you know. So I wake up a lot of times if I'm not hunting with y'all hearing people busting woodies and, you know, I mean, you can hear a lot of. But it's not like it is out here. It's two-thirty.

It's weird. It was weird. but I go back to sleep. Well, then my phone starts ringing. Well, when I answer my phone, things change because it was Kay, my mom, and she's like, here's what she said. But her voice, because you know how Ms. Kay can be, she can be, you know, embellish and exaggerate like most of the Robertsons.

There's a picture next to mom in the dictionary where it says hyperbole. There's a picture of mom next to hyperbole. But the tone in her voice. I knew what she was saying was true because it was, I don't know how I knew that, but she said, people have shot Willie's house, they've shot John Luke's house, the police are on their way. Now, how she knew about that within a few minutes? I don't know. She's wired in.

I guess she has a pretty good network. I guess they were like, I think the police smartly so thought, let me let somebody get a hold to the rest of the family. may be house to house because you you got to remember when you look at something in hindsight it makes sense that's why i thought i would share this is was my first experience with you know i hear gunshots now i get the call so you think well what do you do because you got to remember i was just asleep you know so i had a rifle and a shotgun within 10 seconds in both hands and so i'm like because i'm thinking And from what I knew, because I hung up on mom, just, I mean, that's all I heard, and I just hung up. I need some weapons.

Because I'm thinking house to house. I was doing it in my head. I didn't know if the guy's on foot. Well, right. I don't know. That's all I got. So I get my weapons, and I'm like, where's my family? And so I do a quick search of the house, and I see no one.

And so I look outside. Of course, I'm looking for foe or my family. Well, Missy's, she's in the backyard, just whatever, gardening. And so I opened the door, which I didn't realize how I look. I have two guns. And I said, get in the house now. And she said, I think I just heard some gunshots, which is what she said. Yeah.

But then I more sternly said, get in the house now. I scared her, you know. I mean, she in the house. And so then I said, well, I'm not going to sit here. I had to make a decision kind of like you did, but I have a different, I have a, in my mind, a live threat here. So I thought, you know what, I'm going, I'm not going to be a sitting duck. I mean, if I go down, I'm fixed to go look here.

So I kind of went through a process in my mind. Okay, I may have to shoot somebody. I'm fine with that. if they're attacking you know i'm under attack and i thought look small because it's just i kind of you know all the years of hunting you know i was looking at things because i realized most people think you know when they go deer hunting they go out in the woods people who don't deer hunt they're looking for deer well that's you're not going to see them because they see you and so you look for things out of place and so i remember i looked at the wind because i thought if i have to use a rifle

i want to see which way the wind's going and i actually looked down at my hand to see if it was shaking and it wasn't, which I thought, well, that's good. Because I thought, do I need to go find a tree and get a rest? You know, because if I'm freehanding, my hands are shaking because my adrenaline's going, then I'm not going to go freehanded, you know. The difference between you and me is when I got word, I was when arms reach of an AR-15. Well, I said it took me five seconds. At all time.

I realize it, Phil. I used to think you were paranoid, but now you were prepared. You were right. Just prepared. Prepared. And so I go out. I look what I think is I do a look of the whole property. And I'm like, he's not here.

And he's not coming. So then when I went back in, well, it was just Karina and Missy. And I'm like, well, where's Mia? And this was kind of the panic attack moment for me because she's like, well, she went to Dollar General. But Dollar General, where it's located is not real far from where the shooting happened. So now I'm like, well, how long ago did she leave? It was like 30 minutes, 30 minutes.

It takes five. So I get in my truck, but then I thought, well, wait a minute, just in case I need to give them, I didn't want to leave Missy and Karina, our Nicaraguan daughter. So I said, I got the shotgun and I said, here you go. Let me give you a quick tutorial. Well, I looked at Missy and she's never really been, she's always been afraid of guns and never wanted to deal with them. But I looked at her and I could see it in her eyes. she's all ears. Tell me what I need to do.

But I looked at Karina and I could tell she was scared. And so I said... The Negaraguan? Yeah. I said, Karina, I'm sorry this happened because you're in our family, but it has happened. And there are people in this world who do bad things, you know. But we got to rise up because I felt she needs an inspiration. Well, you think about her case, her life story.

I mean, it was government takeovers and, you know, people walking around. I mean, like, it's a fearful existence if you're in a situation where you really can't trust much. And so I would think that would be especially frankly. Well, it was. And I said, look, and I could tell she needed to be inspired. I said, we believe in God. We can't lose. We have the Holy Spirit of God in us.

And, you know, if something bad happens, we win anyway. I said, but right now this is about, you know, protecting other people. this is about the person beside you. I said, and we don't want some idiot coming in here. And so you're going to learn how to, because I've taught her how to shoot a gun already. But I said, I'm just giving you a reminder that this is a battle against good and evil and we're under attack, unprovoked. They're just randomly shooting it because we knew, you know, there was a lot of kids in the houses that was shot. Because we're quarantined.

I mean, you know, so she was like, thank you, sir. I feel better. I was like an official toll, right? Let's take a break when we finish it. So I take off to go find Mia. Well, when I get to the end of the road, there are cops everywhere. And what happened, there was a wreck. And I didn't know if the wreck had been caused by the incident.

The wreck was about a quarter mile up the road from the shooting. I think now it was a coincidence. Yeah, I think so. But anyway, so my daughter couldn't get back because the road's closed because there was a wreck, you know. But it was right. The wreck was right in front of the dollar chip. It was a, yeah, it was a quarter mile. I saw it all when I came through.

And I'm, well, now I'm looking at the vehicle soon as that my daughter's vehicle, because now I'm thinking, well, maybe she was in a wreck, you know. So in a span of 15 minutes, not only was a gunfire. There was car wrecks. Yeah. It was all happening in real time. Well, and a piece of me was upset because I'm like, we need this. I need these cops chasing. You know, we just had a drive-by shooting.

The shooting happened when the state troopers were a quarter mile down the road, I guess, because I think the wreck happened. It was crazy. So anyway, so Mia gets back. And then, you know, you think, well, what do you do? I mean, because your adrenaline is pumping. And it did make me realize, even when we talk about having the Second Amendment, and when you, and I thought about the speech with Missy, it just fortified so much.

much of what we've always, when people ask us about, you know, what's your thoughts on gun control and the arguments we've had? I thought, you know, what was the first thing we had to do when we were under attack, not by anything we, you know, we did or, I mean, just here comes this situation. And I thought the first thing we had to do was grab some guns and call people with guns. And then it hit me. The reason that they didn't come closer is because everybody knows we have guns. If you know who we are, so I thought it was a deterrent. And really the Second Amendment, that's what it does.

It deterred people who have evil intent from getting that close to you because they know if you give them about five seconds, you're going to fix to have a fight here. But I was proud, you know, my dogs did a good job. The, you know, the family did awesome. And so then I started having to call people in the family because now once I've realized, okay, this person was in a vehicle. So I called Cy because I thought, you know, he probably doesn't know. You know, he's going to be the last person to get this. Because we're just kind of wondering this thing happened to you. So we're like, somebody driving around shooting at everybody in the family.

We don't know. You never know. You're calling your loved ones, you know. Right, right, right. I called Si, which I need, you know, nothing was funny about this, but Sa has a way of making a situation just at ease. Yeah. Because when I called Sa, he was like, okay, within 10 seconds, I could hear guns being loaded.

And he was, he put me on speakerphone and put it down. And he was like, okay, boys. He was oblivious to me. He said, now that one there is going to do some. pretty good damage and then I would hear another gun start to load and he said all right he's always talking to the boys whoever the boys are when he's talking okay boys well then is guy that works for Phil said boy I didn't realize sigh had to me because he was over there had so many guns I said well what's he doing he's like oh he's got them all pointed toward the front door I said well

tell him to point some at the back door you know but side the whole time with as calm as could be was just like now that there that's going to leave the u.s military for 25 years if anybody was going to be prepared if i'd be so i did i did think it was interesting but through the night you know we i thought what do i do what do you do about this so i got a couple of navy seal buddies that have been my security you know through events that i've done and we just got to be really good friends and so i called one of them and i was like all right here's what happened and I'm just trying to figure out what am I dealing with here. I'll give you the situation.

So I told him, of course, this guy, you realize when you talk to these guys, while we have the most powerful nation on earth. Because he immediately went into, okay, here's what you do. And so he just started giving me a withering barrage of information. And I was noticing it was almost like a five-point sermon. And I was like, because I was trying to retain the knowledge. And I was thinking, all these things start with P. I don't think that was plan.

But, you know, he started off. You got to have a plan. You know, what's your plan? And I'm like, well, that's why I'm calling it. My plan is to call you. My plan is to call a Navy Seale. That's too far away. That was the plan.

He's too far away to help you at this point. Well, he did say, if you want me to be there, I can be there. And look, he sent me while we're talking, a Google map of how. long it would take him to be there with you these guys he kept doing that while we were talking because he was like got to have a plan he's like then there are protocols you need to sit down with the family and go through every situation what if there's someone following you you know what are we going to do what if somebody pulls up in the yard and I mean he he went through a dozen off the top of his head course I'm trying to write them down you know and then he's like then you got to address

psychology I mean because there's a psychological aspect of this and you got to remember the more you're prepared, the less fearful you will be because you're involved in the process. So he's like, the more prepared you are, the less you're anxious about it. He said, because that's who we are. He said, that's all we do is train and prepare. That's why you say, well, this guy, there's bullets whizzing over his head. And he said, we prepared for it. And he said, then you need some pistols.

Now, he said that. I laugh. Because he said, I know you're good with a gun and a rifle. He said, but pistols have their place. And so, and he started sending me different ones, you know, because he's like, you got to get your wife. Now, have you addressed that? I was like, you know what? She's surprised.

Because he knows me. This is real well. I said, oh, she's had a complete change of heart. And he said, you tell her, I'll come over and train her so she doesn't have to deal with you. And I was like, oh, she'll go for that, you know. And he said, then you have a lot of practice in the meantime. And he said, that way it, you know, I think he thought I was more anxious than I was. was, I really wasn't, because I'm like, okay, we all made it. At this point, I know everybody's fine,

and I'm as prepared as I can be, but he made an interesting point because he's like, you got remember, especially when you have kids and your wife, and they have a different degree of anxiety, because you're, okay, you know, you're not scared of the situation. We have a situation. He said, but they, they're going to be more fearful. So you're going to have to help them with these different point. So look, when I hung up the phone, I felt completely at peace, you know. I was like, okay, that was a good idea to do because now I have a plan. So how long from the time it happened did they ask the law enforcement have the guy? 48 hours.

48 hours they had arrested. Yep. Which that's pretty good. Yeah, and I don't, you know, what happens is because everybody once this came out, they're asking you, the main two questions I get is, you know, well, how'd they catch him? And what was the motive? Why did he do it? That's what I was getting all day today.

Yeah, I'm like, now look, and I didn't realize people are so obsessed with the wife, but you got to remember in real life, you know, when you get away from social media and watching TV, in real life, if you just stop and think about this, a person does a drive-by shooting into two houses on a main thoroughfare on a bluebird sunny day in the middle of the afternoon with eye witness. I mean, there were multiple eyewitnesses. And you have him on video. Well, you have an irrational act.

You shouldn't think you're going to get an irrational answer to why he did this. That's right. No matter what you think is going to happen and everybody wants to know, oh, because there was, you know, once we saw the, you know, who he is, there was no obvious ties to any of the family. There was nothing that really made sense. I mean, you can guess. You can have opinions. I mean, if I gave my opinion, I would say, based on what I know, which is very little,

it just seems like a guy saying, hold my beer and watch this, you know. Right. As far as we know. Yeah. I mean, that's all I know. Everyone who sins breaks the law. In fact, sin is lawlessness. That's 1st John 3, but verse 4.

You look at it, you say, just sinful behavior. Hang on, let's take a break, and I want to unpack that a little bit more. Well, I was going to say, I mean, look, you assume, because at first I thought, well, maybe, you know, we're all, we're in the coronavirus. There's over 20 million people lost their job. You know, maybe a guy lost his job. A lot of people cooped up. I'm sure there was substance abuse involved. Look, that's a guess, but it's probably a pretty good one, you know.

But you think about that, though, Jay. So, Dad's right. People, I think, the reason they ask why is because they want to think there is some rational reason why people do something so irrational. They want to think that because it makes other people feel secure. What if somebody comes shooting at my house. But when you understand, I think, the spiritual makeup of what we're talking about here, and you understand that sin, once somebody is captivated, by sinful behavior and the evil one is obviously pushing their life because most people don't

just drive by shooting at people. Anybody is capable of anything if they're in the wrong frame of mind or if the evil one is in charge of their life. So to try to make, it's like you talked about Ford. Now how does a guy get up and make all these plans to get into a hotel and have a, you know, 100,000 people at a concert and just start killing people? I mean, there is no rational understanding of that. Other than satanic, I have no answers for those.

No, it is. That's exactly what. Well, and you throw in, you know, substance abuse. You know, you take somebody that's high or drunk and they're mad, they lost their job or whatever. And they just, even if they're driving by, they look over here and what seemingly someone who is successful. And they think, you know, whatever in their state of mind, and you do something stupid. And in lieu of First John three, is for the apostle paul is talking about a person who thanks be to god though you used to be

slaves to sin which leads to death or to obedience which leads to righteousness thanks be to god though you used to be slave to sin there's a lot of them out there i was used to be one we all used to be one you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching which you were entrusted you've been set free from sin and now you've become slaves to righteousness you get up and make sure you do right. Now, what's this? I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Watch how this reads. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness. Why did somebody do this? Why did somebody do? So now, offer them in slavery to righteousness, leading.

to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, we're going back on why people do things, including drive-by shooting. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. You said, well, dude, why'd you do that? He's like, I don't know. Well, what benefit did you reap at that time when you were slave to sin from the things you're now ashamed of? If you could talk to it now once he's sobered up and said, dude, this is probably going to cost you a few years in the penitentiary, who knows, but you can't see. So now he would say, I don't know what I was thinking. If he was able to discern. Those things result in, yeah, now you have been set free from sin when a person is converted to Jesus. And it becomes slaves to God. The benefits you reap

leads to holiness. And the result is eternal life. Then he says this, in lieu of 1st John 3, verse 4, everybody who sins breaks the law. For the wages of sin is death. But the gift of God is eternal life. In Christ Jesus, our Lord. So if you get to think about it, you say there's two mindsets running around out there,

and they both vary in degrees. The real, real, hard-core, I mean, child molesting gang raping, chopping people's heads off and machetes, these inner city gangs, you're like, man, a lot. But if you all just look around, there's degrees out there. But there is a big difference between righteous living and satanic living under the control of the evil one where you really don't know what is the right thing to do. Well, no doubt, because when you step back and look at it, I mean.

It's just a dangerous place planet Earth. is and it's always been that way. Well, and the generational sin just keeps building it worse or worse. The picture, when John Luke and I were talking about the situation, you know, he had the bullet in his wall. He had a picture of the window where it came through. And then it's just stuck in the door jam, you know? But he took a picture of himself, and it was head high.

I mean, that's what I know. But what, and what I, what I, the reason I shared that about Missy is what changed her opinion about that was, I mean, their little babies, the cutest baby in the world. I mean, no doubt. And here's a guy, you know, sitting in his house with his wife and his baby, their quarantine, and a bullet goes through their bedroom window in the middle of the day and lodges in the wall.

And he doesn't even know these people. No. No. This guy didn't even know the people in the house with babies and children. He didn't even, but you would think he said, well, they're under quarantine, there's probably somebody in there, and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, here we go. Or who knows?

I remember telling Missy, I said, because when they arrested him, she's like, well, what now? I said, well, I'll tell you this. If I have the opportunity, I'll share Jesus with him. I'll do it. By the way, Jase, that is, that event that just happened, that is precisely the reason I holler about Jesus and try to convert people. That guy personified everything I do out here.

I'm just trying to get people. I've been saying it over and over and over. Why don't we try loving God and loving each other and we won't have this. That's our greatest weapon and it still is because she said, well, what about all these pistols we just bought? I was like, oh, well, now, if somebody's hailing gunfire on, on the house, that's the weapon of choice in the moment. I said, but once they're locked up.

He's not ready when he was shooting toward the house. It wouldn't have been the time to try to get into a Bible study. No, one wrong weapon. You got to know which weapon to grab. Hang on, let's take a break. And you fix it. So I told her, I was like, oh, no, it's like, are you still ready to learn? She's like, oh, yeah, as long as you don't teach me.

Because she knows, you know, I'm going to be impatient with that process. I was like, I got you a Navy seal coming that'll take care of all your needs. So she's kind of excited about it. But I told us like... Well, I'm glad there was a bridge cross right there on behalf of your wife. Yeah, it was. It was. She's saying the last thing you want to have around here is guns.

And I'm thinking, what if somebody drives up, just start filling your house full of bullets? I mean... Well, there's a lot of, there's a lot of women. You either have to run and you're in your house, try to get away. or return the fire. Well, I brought it up, though, I always, because I remember when the school shooting, the one had happened in Florida, I remember those people, those parents getting up and being passionately against guns.

And I thought, you know, I get it that, because, you know, your kids got killed. I mean, but I was thinking at the time, but your philosophy based on that emotion, I don't agree with. But now that I've actually experienced the situation. I'm thinking, I felt the same energy because, you know, when there's babies that I love being fired upon, you can't get any more emotional or mad than I was for 24 hours. I mean, I was angry. But I did realize that when you think about what can I do. I was simply going to the right and the left a little.

and I wasn't mad at all. Oh, I was mad. I wasn't mad. I was looking at different angles if someone pulled up out there. You were making your plan. I was just looking at the angles, making sure I had covered.

So here, but when I saw. In a line of sight. I mean, I saw the whole thing. When I saw the picture that you described, it was amazing, just because when John Lewis sent to me, so my thought process, almost within a few minutes. You know who I thought of?

I thought about, because you hear it on the news all the time, I thought about the people in Chicago, Illinois. They're living in the inner city neighborhood. Bullets are flying every day, just like what we experienced. And I thought about it, and kids are getting killed all the time because we see now what a stray bullet can do. Sure. And it just, I got angry, but I got angry because I thought

they're the toughest gun control laws in the country are in the state of Illinois, in the city of Chicago. So they've stripped the people that are, being shot. That was my point, Al. They can't defend themselves. Obviously, it's not working to the since you can take away every gun because criminals find a way to get a gun. But I realized in this process, even if you don't have to use the gun, the ability to have one is the deterrent.

That's right. I am convinced that if you could not have a gun, he wasn't just driven by. He had a drove up in the yard and got out and started shooting. If that was his motive, that's right. I'm just saying we're pretty famous people. You know we're armed. If you're attacking us, you know that if you give us a few seconds, we will return the gunfire if you're in our house. I'm never giving up guns ever.

Well, the founders made sure we didn't have to. That's what I'm saying. They were genius in that because I just saw Missy how it changed her because I said, well, what? Because I was thinking some philosophical thing changed her mind. But she's like, when there are people firing on my babies, I need to get over the fear of having a weapon. Yeah, having a – she went from like – you know, it made me think of a mama bear. You know, I'm like, when you're firing on babies in houses in your neighborhood, oh, she's like, give me a gun and tell me how to use it because I'm not going to use it unless you come to my house and start firing on my babies.

And then, look, you want to see me? I'm going to defend my mind. I think one of the things about our wives, because a lot of people, I mean, I know our audience, there's a lot of pistol pack and mamas out there. But our wives and daughters, in my case and yours, or they depend on us. I mean, they know we know how to handle a weapon. And so they're thinking, you'll always be there to protect us. But something like this happens.

And then you realize, well, what if they're not here? Well, right. I mean, then it's like, I got to protect myself. And plus, you're vulnerable. I had the same conversation with my oldest daughter. And Lisa, because we've been talking about them doing concealed carry and learning how to have a weapon because I've got weapons, but then they're kind of like afraid of them. And I was like, well, I want you to be trained on it where you're not. I'm not afraid of the weapon at all.

I mean, the only way the weapon hurt somebody is if a kid gets a hold of it or, you know, you accidentally shoot it. Yeah. I mean, they're dangerous in and of themselves. They are. You got to do safety. Safety's always, you know, the first point of emphasis. But it comes down to, that's the point. I was making, when any situation comes up where something like this, we call people with guns.

Yeah. Whether you're in a no-gun zone or a gun zone, when a crime is committed, what do we do? You call people with guns. Even politicians who say, we're against guns, outlaw them, and you see them walking around, they have people with guns around them. I'm like, I would listen to your argument. if you had no one around you with guns, then I'd say, okay, now there's a courageous person. That's right.

Well, they're like, well, that's not practical. Their philosophy is, I don't mind their passion because I, that's what my point was. I experienced that. I was angry. I was emotional. But when I went outside, I put all that aside. I thought I got a job to do, and it's to protect my family. So I set that aside, and I wasn't, you know, trying to get revenge or I was defending my house.

We all need to remember in the first century, all the guys, all they did, read the book of Acts. After Jesus died, was buried and raised from the dead. He gave them marching orders, go make disciples of all nations, beginning in Jerusalem. If you're going to get some great power, the Holy Spirit comes, and they take off and start preaching the gospel. It is worthy of note that every last one of them, the apostles, were in fact killed, except John. They were all killed. Their fellow man killed them. So, because you wonder, you say, well, why in the world would somebody be shooting

up a family group? And all they do is read Bibles and holler about Jesus all the time. Why would you? So the only answer I can come up with on why it's that way, there is good and there is evil. God and there is the evil one, Satan. Then you say, oh, it's going to be. It's been a battle with him, the evil one, and it still continues.

And any way you slice it, boys, you say, we're in the middle of it. So other than being prudent and making sure that we're protecting ourselves, being self-controlled and alert. And just, you know, I don't walk out the door without being armed. I mean, I just don't. for a long time. Let's take one last break. Well, I wanted to read First Timothy 5. You know, we've referenced this before, but we did it more in a financial situation. And the whole section shows you that as Jesus loving people and as leaders, and I think,

you know, as men in this context, men and women, but I mean, you know, taking care of those who are vulnerable. And in this case, it's widows and children. children. But he says in verse three, he says, give proper recognition to those widows who are really in need. But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn, first of all, to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repairing their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God. And he goes on to say, the widow who is really in need and left all alone, puts her hope in God. And, you know, he's, he's bragging on those people. But then he says, give these people instructions, and in verse 8 it says, if anyone does not provide for his relatives,

especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. And I think even in these moments, you know, part of my role as a man and a husband and a father, when a crisis happens, I need to rise up and provide some leadership. So that's why I was setting aside my personal animosity and whatever the situation, even taking that moment for Karina because I really felt sorry for. I thought the girl has on her own made it through life, has had every reason to quit. She's an orphan girl. She's worked her tail off.

She couldn't get back into her own country. She couldn't get back in her country. And she does this. And she gets a scholarship to an American college where she's passing. and now we got the quarantine and the virus. She was going to go to school. I mean, she was doing it online. She's down here at our house.

And now all of a sudden I could just sit in her eyes. It's like, how did I get in this situation? You know, I'm standing there with two guns. And she's like, do what? This was my happy place until today. By the way, Jay. We're your family. This is us today?

The audience may not know. But basically between Willie's house and Jean-Luc's house, your house is just right there. And mine. Valid point. You're within 100 yards. I mean, you know, bullets go along away. Well, that's why I started with, I'm taking a nap and I hear boom, boom, you know,

and I'm like, whoa. Oh, man, all the flaps went down in my house, too. You know, because, I mean, you just get into the zone. Yeah, I got grandkids there because, again, we're all quarantined. So I live right next door to all my kids. Well, I started doing the trajectory map. I thought, technically those bullets. headed in this direction.

They're probably in my yard. They may be. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, all the people get killed all the time. They shoot these weapons over in the Middle East and stuff. They shoot them up in the air and celebration. People get killed all the time because a bullet just comes down and cracks somebody's stuff.

You know, you're a lot happier. I mean, it's dangerous when you're firing bullets. Something like this, we almost make jokes about it.