Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Ep 826 | Phil Isn’t Sorry He Missed out on Sink Spaghetti & Jase Does His Own ‘Twerking’

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Phil welcomes singer-songwriter Shane Everett, while Jase feels led to divulge the details of his agitating ways as a younger man, including his own version of what Al assumes is “twerking.” The guys lament the ducks that inevitably come in while they’re in the studio, but discussing the sacrifice of Jesus soothes their ruffled feathers. The guys examine Pontius Pilate and King Herod’s reaction to Jesus’ arrest. Check out the audio version of Shane & Shane’s live performance of “You’ve Already Won” on the “Unashamed” podcast at https://apple.co/42gyxPk or watch the YouTube version at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUerwVaW67s In this episode: Luke 22, verses 66-71; Luke 23, verses 1-25; 1 Corinthians 2, verses 6-8; Colossians 3:16; Daniel 7, verses 13-14; Psalm 1, verses 1-3, Matthew 26, verses 27-30 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am unashamed. What about you? All right, welcome back to Unashame. Hey, got the cheering crowd here. Our new toy that Jason's in love it, thanks to 11-year-old. What is his name? Caleb. Caleb. Caleb.

Not to be confused with Kay Love. Which we are an award-winning podcast, I might have. We are. Gee, well, you just. And we have the trophy to prove it. I always used to do that as a kid. two things that were very annoying. It's just two things you remember, Jay's.

I remember a much longer list. So we're ripping off the Band-Aid. I'm going into deep, dark, annoying things Jace did as a child. Do you remember what they are? No. One is every time... You had a bumper sticker that said, I'm surrounded by idiots. I did do that.

Yeah. You got trouble for that. You know, you don't think this podcast is influential. When I was driving through that ice, I thought, I need that bumper sticker. And then as I found myself sliding down Cypress Street, I thought. Heading into a car. It takes one to no one, you idiot. I was going too fast to try to make the turn.

So the two annoying things. One is every time something spectacular would happen, I would go, And the crowd goes wild. I just did that all the time. I don't remember that. The second thing is I would torque. I remember the torque. You were always...

Tork? He was torque or torque? I flexed my muscles. It was his version of twerking. It was torquing. Jay's torquing. I looked like I had... It looked like a bird who you'd pick the feathers off a blackbird.

It was a... I called it the stork tort. When would you do this? Just... I would just come, come in to greet my family, because our family wasn't like most people. They didn't realize you came home or you left. That's true.

No one acknowledged anyone at any time. So I would just walk in and I would go and everybody would laugh and I would walk out. Our family is one of those things where you come in and you say, I've been lost for hours. And they were like, oh, we never knew you left. I know. I ran away a dozen times. No one ever knew. No one ever looked.

No. That was the sad thing. The last time I ran away, I thought, why do I just keep walking off a mile? Because it's a mile back. They're never going to know. You could have just gone, like, around the corner. I got a ladder, and I climbed on top of the house. And then all of a sudden.

I do remember you climbing on the house. I smelled chicken frying. Mom had the ultimate lure to get us back. Then I thought, I think she's burning the gravy. Oh, no. And the next thing I know, I walked down, I was thinking, Mom, you're burning the gravy. And Willie, he liked to go and build places for himself, new domiciles. And he would spend the night there, Cookshack, the shed out back, made him a little forward up the hill.

Yeah, he's always had rebellion tendencies. Well, he's always liked to have different places. And now, of course, he's successful. So now they're just houses all over the parish. Well, everybody always asks me, they're like, what's Willie doing? I'm like, haven't seen him since the last time he yelled at me for. catching his fish out of his pond. He's like, I pay good money for those fish.

Sometimes I'll just walk into Anna's house and he'll be sitting there. Then we'll get to catch up and visit. I never, Zach talks to him more than anybody. Speaking of Anna, Jason, don't explain that. We have a table centerpiece. You're watching. You can see it. If you're listening, there's a treat, a delectable treat in the middle of the table.

This would be a Mardi Gras. king cake. Of course, we all know who the king of kings truly is, and we're going to talk about him. His name is Jesus, but I will say this. It's Jesus. My lovely niece, Al's daughter, stood in line to get this cake for me. So you got you one too, Dad. Without asking. I already dropped it at your house. The cream cheese variety is our favorite, and it has the little martygrail colors.

Where'd you get it from? Where's the... There's the bakery in town. Now look, I have no affiliation with these people. I pay full price, but let me tell you something. The fact that there's a line... There's always a line waiting on the cakes. It's called really.

It's called castor and chicory. And I'm going to tell you, I've eaten... We live in Louisiana, so what you do three times a year is you eat king cakes. They only do them for short periods of time. Mardi Gras, Christmas, and Easter, I think. Yeah. Do you drink the chickery as well? With it, you get you a little cup of...

And that's like really strong, almost bitter coffee is chicory. Well, I drink chicory every morning. I'd rather make it myself. Yeah. I had some guests that stayed the night with me. And so I said... Might that guest be on the podcast later? We may have a surprise guest.

Al, he couldn't... I'm just teasing. I'm just teasing. He'll be here shortly. He's taking all this in, seeing where he's going to fit in. But he has been here before.

Yes. And he was actually... He's only half the man he normally is, though, to do that. Yeah, he doesn't have his twin, a brother from another mother, but you'll enjoy. So with that,

and I actually took him duck hunting. No, I can't wait to hear about it. So, Daddy, you fired up about the Kingcake, too? Fired up about it. But it reminds me, You know, when we start talking about our past, this and that, and ever, I've said this before I've read it. I bet you got a verse for us. Because it was around.

In the little book of Titus, the Apostle Paul is writing a young buck. It reeks of him being a young buck, Titus. Love what is good, Titus, something upright, holy, self-control, disciplined. Then you give him a, he keeps going. teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-control, and sound in faith and love and endurance. Likewise, the older women is to be reverent in the way they live. Well, well, you know, not be slanderers or addicted too much wine. You can drink it.

Not too much. Don't go get out of it. But to teach what is good, the young men and everything set them an example by doing what is good. So when you look into these deep spiritual texts, what they say is Titus of people who are his very own is what God is looking for, eager to do what is good. Then again, chapter three, not the three chapters. And he says to be obedient to the authorities that can get you into trouble, to be obedient to ready, to be ready to do whatever is good. We didn't shoot over the limit today. You did good.

devote themselves the next group, chapter three, to doing what is good things that are excellent and profitable for everyone. And last, he says, Titus, our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good in order that they may provide for daily necessities and not live unproductive lives. But it is pretty interesting because you see Titus is a younger man and the Apostle Paul is much more versed in the Bible, but he's saying, look, all you have to do, Titus, and it is pretty interesting. Just do what's good. It's pretty amazing, but most people don't talk about when Paul talked to Titus.

Well, it's because. They think, well, I need to find something undue good. It needs to be kind of like a habit. You've got a habit of doing good instead of a habit of doing evil, because the habit will form. Yeah. Well, because I think most people when they talk, I mean, we're at Jesus' death.

I mean, we're right up to it. He's fixed to go before Pilate and Herod in Luke 22. And most people just focus in on the fact that he's making us good because of his sacrifice, which is true. True. But he's also calling us to do good things in this world. Yeah.

I mean, he makes us new creation. There's a job to do. And I think that should be equally stressed by his death on a cross. He's returning people, human beings, to reflect his image. I mean, that goes back to Genesis, too. You know, when we were talking about all the so the scriptures will be fulfilled, it goes all the way back to the garden and the fall and everything that led up to this point. Well, look, he was on the earth 33 years doing good.

He never sin. So he was only doing good. and yet you saw how they treated him so you can't do good to your point, Dan, expecting good in return, you've got to do good because it's the right thing to do. People may not even appreciate the good you're doing. They didn't appreciate him. Yeah. So, but he still did it.

So people can tell me anything about what kind of program they got going on. Just do what is good. Yeah, I like it. That's a good kick-all. All right, well, we're going to take a break on the other side of the break. bring in our mystery guest. Does that sound good to you, Dad?

Guess the guest. Guest the guest. All right, we'll see you on that side. Welcome back. The reveal. The big reveal. The big reveal. I call him Shane E.

It's Shane. Mine is Shane. That would be, you know what's funny about that, when my wife, before we got engaged, she had went abroad for a few years and she came back. She called me, and I started talking about my. myself like yeah Shane E and she thought I was saying Shaney and I said no I would know that's your pain not Shane just Shane just call me Shane Shane E and the other Shane yeah artist currently known as Shane Barnard Shane B. Shane B. Yeah. B and E. B and E. B and E. So

they met doing a stretch of five to ten for B and E B and E B and E. B and E. They met doing a stretch of five to ten for B and E. B and E. What's funny is... That's funny. Use that. Use that. I'm using it. Shane, like, reinvent yourselves. Shane and Shane, B&E.

You need to rebrand. We're going to rebrand because we were prisoners and we were set free. Now we're talking about that. That's it. You see what I'm saying? So can you help them because you're the king of rebranding. I can help these guys. You've rebranded more brands.

So I can take you guys to new levels. New levels. You call me. When this is there, you call me. I'll call you. You call me. You're a man who gets things done. Shane and Shane, their recent success, unashamed nation, I'm giving them credit for it.

Because y'all were two of the people that did The Impossible. Y'all came on our podcast. How long ago was that? About a year. You should know which number of podcasts that was. I meant Maddie knows. Maddie might know. Y'all actually sang live.

Yeah. And it was your new song at the time. Yep. The battle, let's see. Battles are already won. You've already won. You've already won. It's one of my favorite songs in the world.

It's so good. Who wrote that song? Not me. Really? The guy who's at the studio working right now. But somebody's got to kill the ducks. So Shane and Shane went duck hunting and I noticed something in the first 60 seconds when y'all were here before. Shane E, who's with us, he's a duck hunter.

Yeah. Shane B, he likes to talk. He does like to talk. He just sat there and we really hammered the ducks. And I'm not even sure he participated. He didn't see it. He just sat there and talked and loved it. Boy, this is awesome.

He loved it. Yeah. Which is one of the best things about duck hunting is it's communal. You know, deer hunting is typically. Yeah, it's solo. Solo quiet. But duck hunting is communal. So even if you don't kill anything, you still have pretty good time.

Well, I didn't realize. He doesn't want you to talk. He wants you to be still and not talk. He'd get frustrated at you. There it is. Episode 615. And we're on 826 today. You guys have been busy.

Wow. So what we should do, Maddie, at some point, is play that because what I said they did The Impossible is they sang live and it was awesome. It was so good. I mean, it was fantastic. We were in the duck car room, as I recall last time. I may or may not have been humming a bass harmony on that just so you know. Well, Daddy sang back. Daddy sang bass on that song.

Daddy sang bass on that song. You had on the bass note your life. We brought a little something to the table. So today, Shane E brought two guests. I invited him and he showed up with a party. We made it work. That's classic. So after the infamous ear ringing that we had about a week ago,

Phil said, I'm going to go down the way with my friends. And so we actually hunted one hole. and Phil and Burley and who else did y'all have donnie Sanders donnie where they were in one blind so y'all did a split hunt yeah but we can see each other I mean we're only what a hundred yards away just far enough to where a pellet'll hit you but not hurt you and so one time because the ducks wouldn't work today I mean we we shot them I think we were right at 20 and uh at one time they had three four wood ducks come in on them because we had two relatively new hunters with you. Yep.

Yep. And one of the guys, Nathan, I think that was the first time you ever, duck hunting. It's the first duck. He shot his first duck today. Yeah. And so, because I asked, I sent Shane a text because he said, I'm coming in and he brought up his buddies. And I said, are they experienced hunters? Because we had just had a newbie ring everybody's ears.

So everybody was like, no more guess. No more guess. That's it. They're out. And so I said, is this person, are they experienced hunters? And he sent me a text. It went, uh, they've hunted before. I said, okay, we're splitting up, gang.

That's exactly what I know. But Phil and them had a group of Woody's come in, and they were pop-op, pop, pop, pop, pop, and none of them were falling. And they were like, well, we're feeling better. But I was trying to explain to them that in that blind when the ducks get, there's a hedge row, a button will is in front of the blind. And it's kind of unique. The only place that you can't shoot them is when they're right in the water. When they get right on the water in front of the decoy.

This morning they're what you call that for planning. Behind the ticket every time. Boom, boom, boom. Limbs flying, ducks flying. Usually after two or three huts, you'll have some holes through there that you can. Now, shoot ducks, live. But it was fun. I mean, we had a good time.

It was cloudy and calm, and all of a sudden we went from ice to 60 degrees. We were sweating like mules. Yeah. So, but it was fun. Hey, we were in the duck line. That was fun. Yeah. And it's good to see guys who know how to use the duck call.

Oh, yeah. You know? They sound like ducks. They sound like ducks. So you know, when duck hunts, it gets slow, I gave an example. Two guys were with us. I'd never met them before, but I've started preaching the gospel to them while we were waiting for ducks. But the ducks didn't show, but the sermon did.

So I said, strip-thinking like you came from your mother. And I said, I'll take you out there to decoys, and I'll baptize you, boys, and you'll be good to go. And they looked at each other, and they said, it's just about 32 degrees. Sometimes, boys, you just got to suck it up. So they stripped naked. We walked out, and as of the decoys, I moved them by the way. You told my account in the cost. I didn't want them to get a tank up in the decoys.

It's not as well as a sound, y'all. And look, those two guys call me over and over and over. I need to tell them right now, I love y'all if you're hearing this. Because you came there, you were dedicated to say I did. Their rebirth was like their first born again. Shane, have you been baptized? I have, but not in a 32 degree. We may need to check his conversion before he leaves.

Phil, do you realize that they've never been more attentive in their life as to when you said, what y'all need to do is strip naked, weighed out in the decoys. Right there at that moment, they were thinking, and do what? Yeah, my first question would be, could I at least wear my underwear? Like, I would have to be that. I mean. You also realize they've never been back. You got to remember when the Apostle Paul and all of them are preaching the gospel and Peter

and they're getting the people together, you got to remember, you say, they didn't have heated. They didn't. No. If you were in the wintertime, it's going to be in cold water when you, when you, you, you may obey with that. So, so, yeah, I've ever since then, I said, well, you know, now they have heated breakfasts and people are soft. Yeah. Well, some volunteered.

There was some other day. The one Jace was the Special Forces guy, Jace, he said, I'll go to the river. And Jays said, well, really there's no point in us waiting out that cold water, you know, when we don't have to. I had to talk him off the ledge. Did you all in the cold water? No, we did it at the. Well, we had a couple that wanted, they, it was cold. it was like 22 degrees.

Usually when I tell them at this time of year in the winter like this, the cotton mouths are not, they're dinned up. And so gators are hibernating. Gators are hymerdating. I said, so you get past those two until spring and summer, then you'll let to deal with that. No. Guy in this river.

Yeah. Well, no, when Ty from the military, when he was trying to talk me into being baptized when it was 30 degrees, He's like, I just really would feel better if I was baptized in nature. I taught him as a new Christian that he was fixed to be that had to take a verse out of context. So I said, for Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel. I said, now I can line somebody up for you, but I'm not waiting out in that water. And you know what?

It's all God's nature. Let's take another break. Well, I threw the phone up because, you know, we left. them hunting and they said the mallards are pouring in to where we just left i was betting on it and then he sent another text and said 75 teal just gave me the decoys so ooh are they hunting now we left too early i'm assuming they are but they're not going to be hunting long if that's happening unless they got their eyes if you said they came in the decoys though if they came in with them button willers in between them and then teal there nothing's going to happen except a bunch of miss it well we'll see

We'll get the story later, but I just thought I'd tell you that. You know what we call that, Shane E? Those are the devil's duck. Sent them in. We're doing the Lord's work right. We're doing the Lord's work. And he sent them in and said, they're leaving. They're leaving.

Stop. Do something. But we. I got a feeling Shane right now is thinking, I think I'd rather be with the devil's duck. Shane said, when's this thing, rat? Let's look at him over there. I can see it on his face, man. Where would you rather be?

I'm right. I'm right what I'm supposed to be. So Zach, tell us what your connection to Shane and Shane. Y'all've done stuff together. Tell us what your view of the Shane's, Shane Square. Shane, I sent my kids to be missionaries at Shane's house for the summer and that he put my kids up. I thought they were ministered to him. It turns out he was ministering to them.

So how long did my kids live at your place? Almost. They were there almost seven weeks. How, I mean, how were they, be honest? Oh, they're incredible. I don't know how they came. Incredibly bad. Came from you.

You did say you walked in on a, you did say you walked in on a spaghetti. What was the, what did you tell you called me the first week. Well, it wasn't their fault, really, because I have this little apartment over my garage. And Zach and Layla were staying there. I mean, Max and Max. Max and Lada were staying there. And I, and they had been there like maybe two days. and I walk up there and it just smells like meat.

The whole place just smells like meat. And I walk over to the sink and I mean it is, it's like they made spaghetti in the sink. Oh. I mean, it was red and meat sauce all the way up, you know, kind of like it was just nasty. And there was pots just, it looked like it had been there like three days, you know. I'm like, I think I texted you. I'm like, I don't know what's going on up here. You know?

I don't know where they would have gotten that. I don't know. I mean, I was just like, this is a disaster. Well, come to find out my garbage disposal had frozen up. Oh. And so they had made meat and they were trying to wash it down and it just clogged the sink up. But they didn't tell me that. Yeah, you're making me really hate the fact that I missed that meal.

Well, you don't put meat down a garbage disposal. Well, they did. They just put it down, but it didn't go down. But they came home, and they didn't know I was fixing it, so I went and got a new garbage disposal, and I was under the sink. Yeah. And they got there, and they were just mortified. They were, like, thought they broke it.

And, I mean, it was a mess. Yeah. You know, and so they were like, oh, my gosh, we're so sorry. I'm like, it's fine. It's not your fault. We're going to get it fixed, you know, so we got it fixed. And, oh, they're so sweet. They did an album with you guys.

They did, yeah. Y'all have a program, which is really cool. Yeah, we had some, we run an online training resource called the Worship Initiative. It's a Worship Initiative.com. And this year, this last year was our first year to do a residency. So we brought in a bunch of younger people and a couple of older. And we just got through, we just worked through the, Psalms. And so we just spent six weeks going through the Psalms, one at a time. And it's just like,

our kind of live verse is let the Word of Christ will richly and use you teach and admonish one another in all wisdom through singing, Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with gratefulness to God and your heart. And so that's why, for two guys that sing, that's the verse we like to cling to, you know? It's in Ephesians 5 too. But it's it's, it's, it's, it's. says something similar, but it's, we love the thought of singing God's word, and we love it. We've been doing that for years, and we love to walk people through His word and say, man, if you're going to say anything, if you're going to put any words in somebody's mouth that they're going to sing, man, we want it to be God's word, not my ideas, but God's word.

And so that's what we do, because we believe that it really changes your heart. It really, you know, it's feeding the heart, not feeding the flesh. when you're feasting on the word of God instead of the world. Which is interesting because the first, I think the first week or two, they were there, they were like, okay, you're not writing one song, one lyric. And they just read, they just studied the Psalms. Studied the Psalms. And spent time in prayer, Bible study, and just conversations about it,

which I thought was awesome for them, too, just to see the intentionality. When you're going to write songs for the church, we need to be intentional about the theology of it and what we're saying. So it was a great experience. You guys are going to do it, I guess, every year now, right? Yep, we're doing it again this year. And so we're really excited about it. And it was the record's called Psalms from the Well, which you should check it out. So Max and Layla have a couple of songs on there that are so good.

They are so good. Have you guys heard them? Oh, yeah. I mean, they are so good. So talented. Where'd they get that from, Zay? They got most of that for me. The same place they got their bad parenting from

where they just walk off and leave a sink full of food. Here's the thing about my voice. I can actually sing very good. And Shane B will testify to that because Shane, you know that's true. You've heard me. You've heard what I can do. But you did say Max and Lately were on the album, not Zach.

Is that correct? His voice is equally as strong as his humility. Does that make sense? That makes sense. You didn't give me a chance to say. I don't have the timing. I can't keep the rhythms. You know what I mean?

Well, that makes sense. I've never been, I've asked to be on the worship team at multiple churches that we've been a part of. And everyone says, no, because you cannot, you cannot keep the time.

Is that why you started your own church? Yeah. That's it, right there. That's it. That's it. And they won't let me sing. Well, that's such a shocker. You would think a guy who's notoriously late would have better timing.

Because he seems to consistently be late. That hurts. Wow. So I thought about you. We're in Luke 22. But I did think in between Matthew 26 and Matthews, version right before Jesus predicts Peter's denial when they did the Passover supper and Jesus was basically representing himself as the new lamb for everyone. I always this as as a as a husband to a

woman who loves worship. I've always thought about that verse in Matthew 2630 right after he just said when he took the cup this is 26 27 he gave thanks and offered it to them saying drink from it all of you this is my blood of the covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins i tell you i will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until that day when i drink it anew with you in my father's kingdom then it says when he when they had sung a hymn they went out to the mount of olives and i'm i'm sure i'm sure in that moment they probably didn't think a whole lot about that but i've often thought about about whatever song they sang together.

And I'm assuming it just, they just started singing. And, you know, as this process went on, Jesus predicts them now. That's the last peaceful moment they had. Yeah. You know, I mean, really until he left and then he wasn't there long. So, I mean, that was really sort of the wrap of all their time together. Because after this, after this happens, it's rolling down fast. I mean, you know.

Judas' portray. He defraise him. Betrayal. Peter denies him and, you know, he's sitting there staring at the fire. But then you fast forward what we did last podcast in John 21, when here is Jesus reinstating Peter around the fire after this miraculous catch where it was kind of the same as Luke 5. But instead of Peter saying, go away from me, I'm a sinful man. This time he jumps out of the boat and swims.

Yeah. Because it's Jesus. On the bank has a fire. they eat fish together and here's their resurrected Lord I mean they're eating fish with a man who was dead

and I'm positive that during that reinstatement at some point they had to think back to that song they sang and all what had just happened they had all abandoned him and it's just it moves me to know that in the middle of that

was worship maybe in the moment they took it for granted but I guarantee you they went back and thought about that or the next time they sang that song, I'm sure tears were streaming down their face. Because a lot had happened in between. So.

Well, I think maybe that, wasn't that after the, and it's because in the Psalms in the sense, they would do what at the last supper or the Passover meal, they'd do a hymn at the end. And was that one, Psalm 118? Is that what that was? I think, do you all know about that? I'm not sure.

I think I heard that. Like when they did that, the Passover, they would sing that a Psalm. Yeah. And I think it was like Psalm 118 or something. I might be remembering that part of it. But it's just like that Psalm says, you know, the gate that the righteous cell enter through. Yeah.

You know, he was the gate that the, whether they're saying that or not, it's just like they, I think to your point, Jace, it's like they realized. Yeah. They got it. Right. They got it. Psalm 118 also says his love endures forever a lot of times. Well, you know what else says here, this is interesting because we've been making the case in this podcast. that a big part of what Jesus is doing here was the coming of the kingdom, the establishment

of the new temple. We talked a whole lot about Jesus being the cornerstone. That's also in Psalm 118, 22. The stall that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. That's right. Right after the part that you mentioned about the gate. Yeah. So I think that that would be interesting to find out if they did sing that at the Passover,

that would make a lot of sense to what we've been talking about. Well, we talked about how that that was really the last past. ever needed, you know? I mean, they still practiced it after. They still do today. But in reality, do we ever need another Passover after that night? I mean, so that song really was the rap of the last Passover ever needed because the Lamb of God now had sacrificed.

Yeah, I mean, that scripture is so strong, man. I mean, it's so rich. That's crazy that that was written so many years before, you know? Which is like you said, and it still speaks to us. I was thinking about that because we're going to do Psalms next after we finish Luke. In Psalm 1, just the first three verses are so strong. Blessed is the man who does not walk in the council of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers.

But his delight is in the law of the Lord. And on his law, he meditates day and night. And then I love this one. He is like a tree planted by streams of water which yield its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither, whatever he does prosper. It's amazing. Which is powerful. Yeah, the halal.

Psalm 113 to 118 was what they would say. Look at you. Come on, man. You hang out in the songs. Maddie backed him up. Good job, man. But anyway, it's just so powerful the idea that that still, you know, we talked about being the hymnal, you know, for the Israelites.

And yet even to this day, it still blesses us and enriches us. And even in that moment, it was like that. Plus, I didn't, I don't know what they did here, but at the end of Luke 24, he led them to the vicinity of Bethany. He lifted up his hands and blessed them. Why he was blessed them, and he left them and was taken up into heaven, which is the Acts 1. Then they worshipped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. And they stayed continuing at the temple, praising God. So even in that last moment, they were worshipping, you know, as he left them, you know, because now, of course, their joy is complete. We're on our way.

take off and do it. I mean, dude, I mean, they're, their lord to die. I mean, you know, it's like, dude. Well, they get a lot of, they get a lot of grief for all abandoning him, but it's nothing that we wouldn't do. I mean, you're like, boy, this is a great plan. And then all of a sudden, usually when the leader dies, the movement dies. But in this case, it flourished.

I wonder why. Exactly. Because he came out of the grave. That's why. Exactly. We call that the game changer. But I'm saying that's what separates Jesus in his movement, his kingdom on earth, rather than any other.

When the leader dies, that's over. Yeah. I mean, it's not like this wasn't happening a lot in those days. And the reason they used a cross was to make a, it was more than just, we're killing you. We're disgracing you. Don't ever challenge us. They, you know, they would leave them on a cross and leave.

people see they were making us a statement you this is what happens when you question our power yeah when you and when you try to take away our authority you remember that was the big question all the way through who's authority who you think you are to come in here and turn upside down who what we've established and is what was amazing about is all the prophecy everything that they had studied everything they had written read all pointed to him being who he was and coming here Absolutely. And yet when it happened, they said, no, go. Who does this guy think he is?

I mean, it started with them, and then it spreads all the way out. And even to the Romans, it was just a nuisance. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And an uprising. Yeah, and you see that where we're at. If I read the text in Luke 2266. This is when it hit to me. I call it the politics now keeps in.

You can get the world to count time by Jesus Christ. You've crossed a hurdle. Yeah. It's 2,024 years since Jesus showed up. I mean, you would think the Chinese, they say, yeah, that's what day it is. And the Russians and everybody else worldwide. They can all count time by Jesus, and they're like, you know, what's this? Why would you follow him?

And they count time by them and have no explanation why. Right. A lot of them, they don't even take it exists worldwide. Yeah. So in Luke 22, 66, and we had just started this, I think we did it in the overtime, well, in 63 through 65, they start making fun of Jesus because here he is supposedly doing miracles and claiming to be God. So the men who were guarding Jesus began mocking and beating him.

They blindfold him and demanded prophesy, who hit you, and they said many other insulting things to him. We talked to about that just being human nature. Now all of a sudden, I mean, these same guards had been sent to pick him up a few times and were amazed by what he was doing. Now all of a sudden, we got him in secret, so we're going to start being abusive. It's just you see evil now. It's like we got the, I mean, he had done nothing to them.

Yeah. But you see their reaction. Yeah. So they have him tied up. They're beating him. And now they start antagonizing him and asking him all sorts of questions. In verse 66, at daybreak, the council of. the elders of the people, both the cheap priest and teachers of the law met together, and Jesus

was led before them. If you are the Christ, they said, tell us. Jesus answered, if I tell you, you will not believe me, and if I ask you, you wouldn't answer. But from now on, the son of man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God. There's your Daniel 7, Zach. Yeah. Son of man. So he's already, I mean, Jesus in his wisdom, wisdom has realized it's over. This is just a matter of time. That's right. You're getting a thrill out of this, you know, kicking me while I'm down.

But I'm going to be seated at the right hand of God, which I'm sure that did not go well because then they said, well, are you then the son of God? He replied, you're right in saying I am. Then they said, well, why do we need any more testimony? We've heard it from his own lips. Blasphemer. Then the whole assembly rose and left. him off to Pilate and they began to accuse him saying we have found this man subverting our nation

he opposes payment of taxes to Caesar that's a lie lie and claims to be christ or the messiah a king so pilot asked Jesus are you the king of the Jews yes it is as you say Jesus replied then pilot announced the chief priest and the crowd, I find no basis for a charge against this man. In other words, he's like, who cares who the king of the Jew? I mean, like, I don't care. So they insisted he stirs up the people all over Judea. I mean, he's a troublemaker by his teaching.

He started in Galilee and has come all the way here. On hearing this, Pilot asked if the man was a Galilean. And you can see a light bulb going off right here because, oh, wait, this might be somebody else. else's problem. That's what he's thinking. When he learned that Jesus was under Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who was also in Jerusalem at that time. When Herod saw Jesus, he was greatly pleased because for a long time he had been wanting to see him. From what he had heard about him, he hoped to see him perform some miracle. He plied him with many questions, but Jesus gave no answer. The chief priest and the teachers of the law were standing there vehemently

accusing him. Then Herod and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked him, dressing him in an elegant robe. They sent him back to Pilate. That day, Herod and Pilate became friends. Before this, they had been enemies. So you see, everybody from every conceivable angle has made a mockery out of what Jesus was trying to adopt. And you also notice that you see how easy. Evil begins to align, you know. I mean, up until this point, pilot inherited enemies, you know, for whatever reason, over petty control, I'm sure. And now of a sudden they found a common element in opposing Jesus.

What were you going to say is that? So I want to read this Daniel 7 passage because I think it's just two verses. But it, yeah, I've been getting a lot of Instagram messages about, man, you guys are really hammering this kingdom here, kingdom now, kingdom come. I'm like, yeah. And I think that Jesus is hammering it too. And when you think about these Old Testament references like the phrase, the son of man, which is out of Daniel 7, I'm going to read it right here because what you're going to see is that this is not just simply a declaration that Jesus is God.

It is that. But it's also a declaration, as he said to Pilate, that Jesus is king, that God is becoming king. That is a monumental happening here. So when you read Daniel 7, he says, saw that in the night visions and behold with the clouds of heaven, there came one like a son of man. There's the reference, a son of man. And he came to the ancient of days and was presented before him. And to him was given, the son of man, dominion and glory and a kingdom.

And here's the description of the kingdom that all peoples, nations and languages, should serve him. This is that reference also that picture you get in Isaiah 2 of, all the nations coming up the mountain to worship God. And his dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away. And his kingdom is one that shall not be destroyed. So this is not simply about forgiveness of sins, although it is that. It's also about the coming of the kingdom with the coming of the king. And the king just so happened, the king of Israel just so happens to be the God of the heavens

who created everything. And the purpose is that all, it's, it's a multi-ethnic kingdom that God is calling all the nations now into, he's grafting Gentiles and everybody else into this kingdom of his, which Jesus is king of. And I don't think we can overestimate that point. It's kind of like the coronation, you know, of, in a, it's just like death shall bring life, you know. It's just like the Passover lamb. It's just like in so many references, he had come to serve. he'd come to serve. And then now it's the transition.

It's the beginning of the transition. And then, man, it's like, he's going to come back again. Yeah, exactly. And everybody's going to know he's the king. Right. You know, nobody's guessing anymore. Yes, the Republicans too. Every knee will bow.

Every knee will bouts. I mean, he is the king. But, man, when he shows up on the scene next time, just like you say, the resurrection is looming. That's right. He's coming. And when he's coming, I hope you, you know, I hope you're right. I hope you're right. And what's, what I find fascinating is that these, these people are the ones who should know, don't know. Yeah. So then he goes to Pilate who sends him to Herod, who know even less than the others. Oh, yeah. They don't know anything. Yeah. You know, Pilots like, well, what is this to me? I mean, he, he just looks at it from a political perspective.

perspective. And he's like, there's no way this guy needs to deserves to die. There's, you know, the stuff you're claiming, I don't even care about. And so I find it fascinating that the people that should have known were the ones clamoring the most to kill him. Yeah. Instead of following. Yeah. But it shows you how much people empower want to please people. Yeah. Because they all, we're fixed to read as the remainder of the chapter. They kept saying we, there's, we don't want to kill this guy. They didn't want to kill him. He hadn't done anything.

I mean, what? But they're like crucify, crucify. So they're, you know, come up with a system. We can release one. Yep. So they keep trying to find a political solution. They do. We release a guy every time.

What about Barabbas? Yeah, what about this guy? We know he's mad. We've got to come back next week or tomorrow. But what is interesting to Zach's point, you know, when we get, and this will be a preview for what we get into next time. You know, the soldiers in verse 36, they came up and they were mocking him again. They offered him wine vinegar and said, if you are the king of the Jews, save yourself.

This idea of him being king keeps coming up. I mean, Pilate asked the same thing. And there was a written notice above him which read, this is the king of the Jews. But what was their message here? They're like, this is what happens when you claim to be. king. Yeah. This would have the kings when you don't buy out of us.

That was my original point. The cross was used as a way to provoke fear in the public. Yeah. They thought they were stamping it out. They thought this is going to be the way to shut this whole king talk down and this kingdom talk. We're going to shut that down. But what they didn't understand was that this is kind of the, I don't even know what

the word is. it's the ethos of the new kingdom. This sacrificial love is the ethos of the new kingdom. And what the thing they thought they were doing that would destroy the kingdom was the very thing that actually brought it into its fruition of what we experienced today, which is what, where does it say if they would have known, if they would have known what happened to the king of glory, they would have never crucified. And where's that at?

First Corinthians, two, seven, but that's a guess. It is First Corinthians, too. While you're looking that up, I thought about it, you know, one of the other verse versions as pilot is debating this situation. One of the other tellings of it and the other gospels says that his wife had a dream and sent word and said, don't have anything to do with killing this man. And I've always found that fascinating where that came from, that dream. Was that from evil out of fear maybe? Something's brewing here. Was that from God? you know who sent her that memo that then she told him because somebody somebody told her that in a dream

I don't know who it was and then she sends the warning because she's like don't have anything to do with killing this man and that's maybe that's why that he was like man dude kill barabbas man he did not want to do it's a bad dude man they're gonna they're gonna choose barabbas right you know I was off it was first Corinthians 2 8 but I'll read it to Zach's point because I think it's a good verse. In verse six, it says, we speak a message of wisdom among them mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age who are coming to nothing. We speak God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our

glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written, no eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him. But God has revealed it to us by his spirit. Yeah. I've always thought it was pretty fascinating. We're almost out of time.

Shane, it's always a blast to have you on. Tell us a little bit about what you're doing, where folks can find your stuff. Oh, man. Yeah, you can go to shaneyshane.com and figure out where we are. but we spend most of our days at the worship initiative, just creating resources for worship leaders, musicians, songwriters, even people who have a desire to do that, you know, to really equip the church with a hunger and a love and a thirst for God's word.

And so that's really what we want to see, biblically literate. People who know how to do what they do well. and depending upon the Lord for that. And so that's what we do. It's how we spend our day. So you can go to the Worship Initiative.com. You can find us there.

We're there every day, you know? I know everybody knows people that could benefit from it. And I was preaching Sunday, Jane, and I said, the kingdom of God is about action. And part of that is paying forward what God has done in your life. And that's what you guys are doing. I mean, you're paying forward what he's blessed you guys with, an ability to do something. And you're paying it forward. And they'll be doing that.

What you're creating now will be blessing lives long after you're waiting for the resurrection. We'll put some of these links up in the show notes for you guys listening and also a couple of these songs we talked about. You guys can go check out some of the work they're doing. Maybe we can say we can get the Shains back when we're in Psalms and do something together. We'd love that. That'd be fun. I would sing it, but that would ruin the applause. I'm fighting a battle.

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